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1  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Political Machine Results on: April 24, 2015, 12:39:19 pm
1 o'clock EST
No projections
2 o'clock EST

McConaughey: 65        Porter: 466
3 o'clock EST

McConaughey: 65        Porter: 473        270 to win
4 o'clock EST
No projections
5 o'clock EST
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6 o'clock EST
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Election results after certification of all votes cast.

McConaughey: 65        Porter: 473        270 to win
Popular Vote Matthew McConaughey 77.959 million (43.01%) Garrison Porter 103.273 million (56.99%)
2  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Political Machine Results on: April 24, 2015, 12:29:17 pm
Matthew McConaughey/Lyndon Johnson v. Garrison Porter/Emma Watson
President of the United States of America/Vice President of the United States of America
7 o'clock EST

McConaughey: 0        Porter: 50        270 to win
8 o'clock EST

McConaughey: 0        Porter: 111        270 to win
9 o'clock EST

McConaughey: 13        Porter: 273        270 to win
Garrison Porter/Emma Watson
President of the United States of America/Vice President of the United States of America
10 o'clock EST

McConaughey: 13        Porter: 354        270 to win
11 o'clock EST

McConaughey: 34        Porter: 362        270 to win
12 o'clock EST
No projections
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: April 21, 2015, 10:12:31 pm
1974 Senate Election Results
Democrat: 48        Republican: 50        Independent: 2        51 for majority
1974 House Election Results
Democrat: 400        Republican: 35        219 for majority
Election 1976 Candidates: President Ted Kennedy (D-MA)/Vice President William Proxmire (D-WI) v. Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Senator Richard Schweiker (R-PA)
1976 Presidential Election Results
Kennedy: 273        Reagan: 265        270 to win
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: April 21, 2015, 03:00:36 pm
Three other projections are coming now in the three states outstanding. First Senator Kennedy carries Missouri.

Ted Kennedy
Missouri 12 electoral votes
Kennedy: 302        Hatfield: 215        270 to win

Both New Jersey and Hawaii are casting their electoral votes for Ted Kennedy. This is Garrison Porter. Thanks for reading.

Ted Kennedy
New Jersey 17 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy
Hawaii 4 electoral votes



Ted Kennedy
President of the United States of America
1972 Senate Election Results
Democrat: 52        Republican: 46        Independent: 2        51 for majority
1972 House Election Results
Democrat: 422        Republican: 13        219 for majority


election '72 coverage & results
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: April 20, 2015, 06:11:17 pm
Mark Hatfield May Get 230 Electoral VotesNevada will cast its electoral votes for Mark Hatfield. North Dakota also cast its electoral votes for President Hatfield.

Mark Hatfield
Nevada 3 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
North Dakota 3 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy
President of the United States of America

President elect Kennedy is the winner in New Mexico and Alaska.

Ted Kennedy
New Mexico 4 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy
Alaska 3 electoral votes

Election 1972 coverage close after this.



Kennedy: 290        Hatfield: 215        270 to win


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6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: April 19, 2015, 05:30:23 pm
There are some other projections to make right now. Senator Kennedy is the winner in Maine. He also carries Oregon and California. President Hatfield is the winner in Idaho.

Ted Kennedy
Maine 4 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy
Oregon 6 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy
California 45 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
Idaho 4 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy v. Mark Hatfield
President of the United States of America
Kennedy: 260        Hatfield: 202        270 to win

Senator Kennedy is really close to being elected President. It is just as possible that President Hatfield still achieves reelection tonight. Senator Kennedy carries Maryland. Ted Kennedy is elected President of the United States defeating President Hatfield.

Ted Kennedy
Maryland 10 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy
President of the United States of America

Ted Kennedy in January officially now will become the 29th President of the United States. The state of Hawaii is undecided at this hour. The polls have closed there. Both Montana and Washington state cast their electoral votes for the President elect of the United States.

Ted Kennedy
Montana 4 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy
Washington 9 electoral votes

Colorado goes to the President of the United States.

Mark Hatfield
Colorado 7 electoral votes
Kennedy: 283        Hatfield: 209        270 to win



Ted Kennedy
President of the United States of America


election '72 coverage
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: April 19, 2015, 03:29:48 pm
Kennedy Carries Big States While Mark Hatfield Hangs On To LeadNew York cast its electoral votes for Ted Kennedy. Vermont and New Hampshire are both still outstanding. Kentucky will go to Mark Hatfield. Pennsylvania drops for Kennedy.

Ted Kennedy
New York 41 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
Kentucky 9 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy
Pennsylvania 27 electoral votes

This is a big win for the Republicans. Texas cast its electoral votes for Republican President Mark Hatfield.

Mark Hatfield
Texas 26 electoral votes
Kennedy: 169        Hatfield: 175        270 to win

Delaware cast its electoral votes for Kennedy. Its 10 o'clock on the East Coast. Ohio will cast its electoral votes for Ted Kennedy.
Breaking: Kennedy Carries OhioUtah and Arizona will both go to Mark Hatfield. Ted Kennedy is also the winner in Iowa.

Ted Kennedy
Delaware 3 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy
Ohio 25 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
Utah 4 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
Arizona 6 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy
Iowa 8 electoral votes

Coming back to some states we could not call earlier. Mark Hatfield is the winner in New Hampshire. He also narrowly hangs on in Vermont and carries the state. One more call right now for the President. Hatfield carries West Virginia.

Mark Hatfield
New Hampshire 4 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
Vermont 3 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
West Virginia 6 electoral votes

Election 1972 coverage will continue after this.



Kennedy: 205        Hatfield: 198        270 to win


election '72 coverage
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: April 19, 2015, 01:12:54 pm
Kennedy: 101
Hatfield: 140
270 to win
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: April 18, 2015, 10:40:56 pm
Its 9 o'clock on the East Coast and there are some other projections to make for Senator Kennedy. Ted Kennedy is the winner in Illinois. A big 26 electoral votes go to the Massachusetts senator.

Ted Kennedy
Illinois 26 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy v. Mark Hatfield
President of the United States of America

Rhode Island will also go to Kennedy. New York shows a lead for Kennedy but we cannot yet project the state to go into his column. Kennedy does carry Michigan. Minnesota easily goes for Kennedy. Wyoming goes to Hatfield. Wisconsin the home state of William Proxmire who is running for Vice President representing the Democrats goes to Kennedy.

Ted Kennedy
Rhode Island 4 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy
Michigan 21 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy
Minnesota 10 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
Wyoming 3 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy
Wisconsin 11 electoral votes

Good news for the Republicans. Mark Hatfield carries Louisiana.

Mark Hatfield
Louisiana 10 electoral votes

Connecticut and South Dakota go for Kennedy. Back in a moment.

Ted Kennedy
Connecticut 8 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy
South Dakota 4 electoral votes


election '72 coverage
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Could the 2000 election have a map which looks like this on: April 18, 2015, 10:26:05 pm
There are two ways the results of that election could have looked. The actual results and your map. As a matter of fact I think your map is what the political strategists working for the Bush/Cheney effort were expecting.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: April 17, 2015, 02:17:26 pm
President Hatfield is the winner in Tennessee and Alabama and Mississippi. He also carries Florida.

Mark Hatfield
Tennessee 10 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
Alabama 9 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
Mississippi 7 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
Florida 17 electoral votes

Senator Kennedy carries his home state of Massachusetts and the District of Columbia. Indiana a state we could not call earlier goes to Hatfield.

Ted Kennedy
Massachusetts 14 electoral votes

Ted Kennedy
District of Columbia 3 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
Indiana 13 electoral votes

The states of Nebraska and Kansas and Oklahoma all go to Mark Hatfield. North Carolina and Arkansas also cast their electoral votes for Hatfield.

Mark Hatfield
Nebraska 5 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
Kansas 7 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
Oklahoma 8 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
North Carolina 13 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
Arkansas 6 electoral votes

No other projections can be made right now. Back in a moment.



Ted Kennedy v. Mark Hatfield
President of the United States of America


election '72 coverage
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: April 14, 2015, 07:07:13 pm
Election 1972 coverage open. Polls have just closed in six states. We have projections in two so far. Two Indiana and Kentucky are undecided. In South Carolina;

Mark Hatfield
South Carolina 8 electoral votes

President Hatfield is the winner of the state. Georgia the peach state also goes for Hatfield.

Mark Hatfield
Georgia 12 electoral votes

Vermont is undecided between Ted Kennedy and Mark Hatfield. Hatfield carries Virginia.

Mark Hatfield
Virginia 11 electoral votes

We'll be back shortly. Election 1972 coverage continues after this.


election '72 coverage
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: April 13, 2015, 06:47:06 pm
1970 United State Senate Election Result
Democrat: 50        Republican: 48        Independent: 2        51 for majority
Harry Byrd jr elected Independent senator from Virginia caucuses with Democrats. Thus giving them the majority.
1970 United State House of Representative Election Result
Democrat: 427        Republican: 8        219 for majority
1972 Presidential Election candidates: Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA)/Senator William Proxmire (D-WI) v. President Mark Hatfield (R-OR)/Vice President Clifford Hansen (R-WY)
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does Hillary Win? on: April 12, 2015, 10:38:50 pm
I voted no. The basis for her election loss is that the electoral map looks some like what Gore v. Bush did before the DUI story about Bush came out. Given that if she is elected and brings another economic surplus like her husband's administration did that would be great!
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Nixon vs. Humphrey vs. Wallace Today on: April 12, 2015, 10:35:49 pm
......due to the split in the right-wing vote.
And due to the fact that a majority of Americans genuinely like Hubert Humphrey as in my opinion they should.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: April 12, 2015, 04:43:43 pm
We are calling the states that are outstanding. Alaska and Hawaii go to President elect Mark Hatfield.

Mark Hatfield
Alaska 3 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
Hawaii 4 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
President of the United States of America
Johnson: 184        Hatfield: 305        Thurmond: 0        270 to win
Nevada and Michigan go to Johnson. Texas by 25 votes statewide goes to Lyndon Johnson. This is Garrison Porter. Thanks for reading.

Lyndon Johnson
Nevada 3 electoral votes

Lyndon Johnson
Michigan 21 electoral votes

Lyndon Johnson
Texas 25 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
President of the United States of America



Johnson: 233        Hatfield: 305        Thurmond: 0        270 to win

1968 United State Senate Election Results
Democrat: 60        Republican: 40        51 for majority
United State House Election Results
Democrat: 422        Republican: 13        219 for majority



election '68 coverage & results
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: April 12, 2015, 01:32:16 pm
Johnson: 184
Hatfield: 298
Thurmond: 0
270 to win
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: April 12, 2015, 01:27:47 pm
We have another projection to make right now.

Mark Hatfield
Minnesota 10 electoral votes
Johnson: 177        Hatfield: 255        Thurmond: 0        270 to win
Mark Hatfield will be the winner in Minnesota. He carries its 10 electoral votes. That moves him ever closer to 270 needed to win. There is still a way; a couple of ways to put the math together where Johnson can win reelection. His opponent Mark Hatfield has the lead at this hour. Here comes another projection.
Hatfield Leads Johnson; Johnson Carries MississippiLyndon Johnson
Mississippi 7 electoral votes

Mississippi will go for President Johnson. That leaves right now Texas the only southern state still outstanding. We have a really big projection to make right now.

Mark Hatfield
California 40 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
President of the United States of America

Mark Hatfield will be the President of the United States for the next four years. He carries California and its 40 electoral votes. That brings him to 295 it took 270 to win. That means Mark Hatfield defeats Lyndon Johnson. He that being Senator Hatfield will become the 28th President of the United States. That big projection leads us to declare President elect Mark Hatfield the winner in Delaware. It is a dead heat in Michigan and Texas. Election 1968 coverage continues after this.
Johnson: 184        Hatfield: 295        Thurmond: 0        270 to win

Mark Hatfield
Delaware 3 electoral votes


election '68 coverage
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: April 12, 2015, 11:40:30 am
At least one other state goes for Senator Hatfield. New Mexico will go to Mark Hatfield.

Mark Hatfield
New Mexico 4 electoral votes

Breaking news now Connecticut will also go to Lyndon Johnson. Wisconsin also goes to Mark Hatfield. Minnesota is still along with some others outstanding.

Lyndon Johnson
Connecticut 8 electoral votes

Mark Hatfield
Wisconsin 12 electoral votes
Johnson: 164        Hatfield: 236        Thurmond: 0        270 to win
President Johnson we have not declared if he will be reelected or not tonight. Whatever the case is nationally he will carry North Carolina and its 13 electoral votes.

Lyndon Johnson
North Carolina 13 electoral votes
Johnson: 177        Hatfield: 236        Thurmond: 0        270 to win

Washington state will go to Mark Hatfield. Sitting here watching all this Hatfield may cross 270 electoral votes without California or Texas. He may not get to 270 at all. Back in a moment.

Mark Hatfield
Washington 9 electoral votes
Johnson: 177        Hatfield: 245        Thurmond: 0        270 to win


election '68 coverage
20  General Discussion / History / Maine Caucus on: April 11, 2015, 09:39:27 pm
In 1980 Jimmy Carter beat Ted Kennedy in the Democrat Maine caucus some 19 days after the Iowa caucus and before New Hampshire. Was it virtually the end of the Kennedy campaign?
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Kennedy v Nixon today on: April 09, 2015, 01:58:57 pm
Given their policy positions and platforms they ran on in 1960, it's actually very likely that Kennedy would be a conservative Republican and Nixon a liberal Democrat today. So the election would probably look not too different from 2012 with Nixon winning the Obama states and Kennedy winning the Romney states.




Bro, read a history book.

Sure Kennedy might not have been a liberal hack by that days standards but the idea that he would be anywhere close to being a "conservative Republican" is one of the most hilarious things I have read on here.  Almost as hilarious as the idea that Nixon would be a "liberal Democrat".

For starters as much of a war hawk JFK was (really who the help wasn't in 1960?!) and his push for tax cuts, he also pushed quite heavily for a universal healthcare program, "similar to what they did awhile back in the UK."  Hardly something a conservative Republican would advocate for.

At the least he was a moderate liberal, which becomes extremely apparent considering his whole "New Frontier" rhetoric.
As I understand it Kennedy is very liberal and Nixon a Chuck Grassley like Republican. Kennedy has no electoral base.
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: OH-Quinnipiac: Portman trailing Strickland, crushing Sittenfeld on: April 06, 2015, 05:40:25 pm
Not only that, Kasich was the only statewide official that was able to break the hammerlock Dems have had on statewide, not local elections. Minus 2010 in which Lee Fisher fizzled. Vonovich, DeWine and Josh Mandal all who ran for Senate, but no longer in office anymore, this will go Dem in 2016, like in 2012 and 2006.

Me thinks, Dems win Pa, OH, WI and IL. Public policy polling will have better news for Dems in Pa.

PPP has already polled PA and found Toomey ahead, just like everyone else. The race is toss-up at best for the dems, and might even be Lean R.

N O that is wrong. Keep in mind that convention  +  hilary coattails could ouste tomey. if anything this race is lean D E M not G O P.
I think the vice presidential nominees are more important than convention sites in terms of presidential election results.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Kennedy v Nixon today on: April 06, 2015, 05:34:16 pm
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Rand Paul to announce his candidacy on April 7 on: April 06, 2015, 05:29:01 pm
Rand Paul will not be President January 21st 2017.

Correct. Because Rand Paul will rumble to Washington and swear in on January 20th.
He'll be sworn in on the 20th and would therefore be the President on the 21st and for the next 1365 or so days after that.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: April 06, 2015, 05:27:56 pm
Illinois will go to Mark Hatfield. Republicans happy about that but the Democrats have something going for them too. Lyndon Johnson is the winner in Pennsylvania. The keystone state stays in the Democrat column.

Mark Hatfield
Illinois 26 electoral votes

Lyndon Johnson
Pennsylvania 29 electoral votes
Johnson: 117        Hatfield: 197        Thurmond: 0        270 to win
New York is another state that will go to President Johnson. That must be good news for the President and his supporters.

Lyndon Johnson
New York 43 electoral votes

Senator Hatfield is the winner in New Jersey.

Mark Hatfield
New Jersey 17 electoral votes

We can declare Hatfield the winner in his home state of Oregon. Back in a moment.


Mark Hatfield
Oregon 6 electoral votes


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