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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 22, 2014, 07:46:06 pm
I am told there are some projections now. William Jennings Bryan the Democrat challenger will carry Georgia & South Carolina & Virginia.

William Jennings Bryan
Georgia 13 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
South Carolina 9 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Virginia 12 electoral votes

Other projections now. President Douglas will carry Vermont & Bryan Kentucky. Indiana is undecided at this hour. William Jennings Bryan leads in Indiana.

Frederick Douglas
Vermont 4 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Kentucky 13 electoral votes

The call comes quickly now. We can call William Jennings Bryan the winner in Indiana. The state stays in the Democratic column tonight. President Frederick Douglas is the winner in Connecticut & Massachusetts & New Hampshire & Maine. He also carries Pennsylvania. William Jennings Bryan is the winner in Alabama & Mississippi.

William Jennings Bryan
Indiana 15 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Connecticut 6 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Massachusetts 15 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
New Hampshire 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Maine 6 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Pennsylvania 32 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Alabama 11 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Mississippi 9 electoral votes
Bryan: 82        Douglas: 67        224 to win

So Representative Bryan leads by 15 in some very early electoral college vote count tallies. Bryan carries add to what he already has Missouri & Tennessee & North Carolina & Arkansas.

West Virginia is casting its 6 electoral votes for President Douglas again this year. One of the deciding states four years ago. This is a new call. West Virginia stays in the Republican column.

More election 1896 coverage after this.


William Jennings Bryan
Missouri 17 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Tennessee 12 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
North Carolina 11 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Arkansas 8 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
West Virginia 6 electoral votes
Frederick Douglas Carries West Virginia & Democrat Challenger William Jennings Bryan Leads Electoral College Count


Bryan: 113        Douglas: 73        224 to win


election '96 coverage
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 21, 2014, 10:53:14 pm
Former Representative William Jennings Bryan (D-NE)/Former New York Governor Grover Cleveland (D-NY) versus President Frederick Douglas (R-MD)/Vice President Blanche Bruce (R-MS) Election 1896 Final Opinion Poll
Bryan: 181
Douglas: 156
Undecided: 110
224 to win
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 21, 2014, 06:48:51 pm
The governor of Utah whose state did not even cast electoral college votes in this election carries Montana & Ohio. This is Garrison Porter thanks for reading.

Caleb West
Montana 3 electoral votes

Caleb West
Ohio 23 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
President of the United States of America

Frederick Douglas
New York 36 electoral votes




New York (Projected Result)
West 44.74%
Douglas 49.11%
Other 6.15%
West: 209        Douglas: 235        223 to win


election '92 coverage & results
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 21, 2014, 06:37:15 pm
Frederick Douglas Is Elected President of the United States; First African American To Win The OfficeFrederick Douglas is the next President of the United States. He carries California which alone elects him President. The Republican carries the state & its 9 electoral college votes.

Frederick Douglas
California 9 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
President of the United States of America

The President elect of the United States is the winner in Oregon & Washington state & Idaho. Caleb West is the winner in Arkansas

Frederick Douglas
Oregon 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Washington 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Idaho 3 electoral votes

Caleb West
Arkansas 8 electoral votes

More after this & election 1892 close coming up.


election '92 coverage
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 21, 2014, 06:26:00 pm
Social reformer Frederick Douglas is the winner in New York & Illinois & Kansas & Utah.

Frederick Douglas
New York 36 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Illinois 24 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Kansas 10 electoral votes

Republican nominee & Social Reformer carries North  & South Dakotas & Iowa.

Frederick Douglas
North Dakota 3 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
South Dakota 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Iowa 13 electoral votes
West: 150        Douglas: 209        223 to win

All of that for Frederick Douglas. Governor West does carry North Carolina & Nevada. He is also the winner in Louisiana & Delaware. Douglas carries West Virginia.

Caleb West
North Carolina 11 electoral votes

Caleb West
Nevada 3 electoral votes

Caleb West
Louisiana 8 electoral votes

Caleb West
Delaware 3 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
West Virginia 6 electoral votes

Election 1892 coverage continues after this.



West: 175        Douglas: 215        223 to win


election '92 coverage
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If Hillary does go all the way... on: September 21, 2014, 03:13:43 pm
Depends what you mean by anticlimactic throughout. Even in wave years, there were periods where the other party led in the polls (ex: Dukakis led in 1988...)
I would not call 1988 a wave year. I do see some potential similarities between 1988 & 2016. I think I have reason to doubt Hillary Clinton would win a 2nd term in 2020. If she does however she & her husband will have been in politics for 50 years+ in November 2025. The question is who the Dan Quayle of 2016 will be. Evan Bayh or Michael Bennett. Evan Bayh would be an interesting choice.
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Senate: Counties to Watch on Election Night. on: September 20, 2014, 01:49:37 pm
I may go to bed on election night after a winner in Cedar County Iowa is known; meaning when 100 percent of the vote is counted county wide.
8  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Political Machine Results on: September 18, 2014, 10:25:15 pm
1:00 AM EST
No projections
2:00 AM EST
Edwards: 256        Porter: 202        270 to win
Nebraska
Edwards 50%
Porter 50% (W)
New Jersey
Edwards 50%
Porter 50% (W)
New Jersey cast its 15 electoral college votes for Garrison Porter.

If Garrison Porter can reach 215 electoral votes then he who wins California will win the presidency.
3:00 AM EST
Edwards: 266        Porter: 217        270 to win
Arizona
Edwards 50% (W)
Porter 50%
North Carolina
Edwards 49%
Porter 51%
That's an impressive ride by Garrison Porter. That polling map looked a lot in favor of John Edwards. Here we are at 3 AM without a President of the United States yet. Garrison Porter has a chance to win this thing.
4:00 AM EST
No projections
5:00 AM EST
Edwards: 266        Porter: 272        270 to win
California
Edwards 50%
Porter 50% (W)
Garrison Porter has done what the opinion poll said he probably would not do. He wins the election defeating John Edwards. Leaving the count looking like the following in the bid between Edwards & Porter to reach 6 election victories.

Garrison Porter/Penelope Cruz
President of the United States of America/Vice President of the United States of America

John Edwards 3
Garrison Porter/Penelope Cruz 5
6 to win
Election results after the certification of all the votes cast
Edwards: 266        Porter: 272        270 to win
National Popular Vote
John Edwards(NC)/Bill Richardson(NM) 51.53067 (92445000)
Garrison Porter(TN)/Penelope Cruz(MO) 48.46933 (86953000)
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Crystal Ball: 5 reasons Senate control may not be decided on election day. on: September 18, 2014, 02:55:20 pm
I do not think Manchin would switch and caucus with the Republicans. As far as his electability going forward it is hard to see West Virginians rejecting Manchin.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 18, 2014, 09:37:06 am
West: 150        Douglas: 119        223 to win
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 18, 2014, 09:33:27 am
Back at election 1892 central. The first African American to be a major party nominee for President and a Utah governor are running against each other for the highest office in the land. We are awarding Frederick Douglas Rhode Island & Michigan & Wisconsin & Minnesota. Douglas leads in New York state. We have no projection to be made there at this hour. Governor West carries Nebraska & Colorado.

Frederick Douglas
Rhode Island 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Michigan 14 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Wisconsin 12 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Minnesota 9 electoral votes

Caleb West
Nebraska 8 electoral votes

Caleb West
Colorado 4 electoral votes

Maryland & Texas both are casting their electoral college votes for the Democrat Caleb West.

Caleb West
Maryland 8 electoral votes

Caleb West
Texas 15 electoral votes

Wyoming will go for Frederick Douglas. A blow to the West campaign. Election 1892 coverage continues after this.

Frederick Douglas
Wyoming 3 electoral votes

Caleb West vs Frederick Douglas
New York 36 electoral votes


election '92 coverage
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Re: 1968: Romney vs Humphrey vs Wallace on: September 17, 2014, 11:47:31 am
That is an interesting Republican ticket. The most electable Republican nominated for President and the Vice President slot going to the least electable Republican. I say Humphrey wins but the electoral college map is interesting. It may well go to the House.
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 17, 2014, 08:55:55 am
Republican nominee Fredrick Douglas carries tonight Massachusetts & New Hampshire & Maine.

Frederick Douglas
Massachusetts 15 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
New Hampshire 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Maine 6 electoral votes

Douglas is also the winner in Connecticut & New Jersey & Pennsylvania. Caleb West is the winner in Missouri.

Frederick Douglas
Connecticut 6 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
New Jersey 10 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Pennsylvania 32 electoral votes

Caleb West
Missouri 17 electoral votes

Florida & Alabama & Tennessee & Mississippi all cast their electoral votes for Caleb West.

Caleb West
Florida 4 electoral votes

Caleb West
Alabama 11 electoral votes

Caleb West
Tennessee 12 electoral votes

Caleb West vs Frederick Douglas
President of the United States of America

Caleb West
Mississippi 9 electoral votes


election '92 coverage
14  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Political Machine Results on: September 16, 2014, 09:13:54 am
Edwards: 254        Porter: 165        Undecided: 119        270 to win
Final Opinion Poll
Edwards/Richardson 50%
Porter/Cruz 46%
Undecided 4%
John Edwards/Bill Richardson vs Garrison Porter/Penelope Cruz
President of the United States of America/Vice President of the United States of America
Clearly according to the poll John Edwards is further along than Garrison Porter in terms of winning this election. Porter trails Edwards by almost 100 electoral college votes in the opinion poll.

Its all about the undecided states. Do not mind California. John Edwards carries North Carolina & the best Garrison Porter can do is tie. The election then goes to the house of representatives. This is a rematch. John Edwards by choosing Bill Richardson again as his running mate creates the rematch.

Probably to show the ticket is better in the West than the last election let off.

Garrison Porter has won 4 elections & John Edwards 3. Those both in their bids for 6 that being the best of 10.

This election result will move the needle again.
7:00 PM EST
Edwards: 0        Porter: 0        270 to win
At this early hour when 6 states have closed their polls we have no projections to make. From some very early exit poll numbers it looks like Garrison Porter may have a problem winning 60%+ of the vote anywhere across the country.

That would be a first. Usually at least Utah or Alaska at minimum.

That's just the word we have at this hour. Obviously that could change.
7:30 PM EST
Edwards: 5        Porter: 0        270 to win
West Virginia
Edwards 58%
Porter 42%
The first state to declare a side a is West Virginia. John Edwards is the first candidate on the board. That should have been expected. He does rather well garnering 58% of the vote in the state. No declaration can be made at this time in Ohio. The polls have closed there.
8:00 PM EST
Edwards: 28        Porter: 14        270 to win
Connecticut
Edwards 62%
Porter 38%
Kansas
Edwards 43%
Porter 57%
Massachusetts
Edwards 63%
Porter 37%
New Hampshire
Edwards 57%
Porter 43%
South Carolina
Edwards 45%
Porter 55%
Quite the turn around for Democrats in New Hampshire.

I think Democrats are going to do and are already doing well on the entire East coast.

So far its that way. New Jersey is outstanding and we have no call in Pennsylvania.
8:30 PM EST
No projections
9:00 PM EST
Edwards: 98        Porter: 28        270 to win
Indiana
Edwards 47%
Porter 53%
Maryland & District of Columbia
Edwards 56%
Porter 44%
Michigan
Edwards 61%
Porter 39%
New Mexico
Edwards 61%
Porter 39%
Rhode Island
Edwards 66%
Porter 34%
Wyoming
Edwards 41%
Porter 59%
The Democrat John Edwards leads at 9:00 EST & by no small margin. 70 electoral college vote difference between the two candidates.

This is a divided country. Neither candidate wants to divide the country but honestly in some retrospect running for office is a little bit about dividing people. Seeing some of those Eastern states going to Edwards by the margin they are I doubt Garrison Porter can carry New Jersey & accordingly he probably looses the election. That will mean he will need to win 2 more after this to get to 6 election victories. Lets watch & see what happens but my money is on Edwards winning this election. I would doubt by the way if either camp is surprised by that right now.

Yes and there is Wyoming a state that almost always gives Garrison Porter 60%+ of the popular vote. He carries 59% statewide. That's down from the previous election.
10:00 PM EST
Edwards: 157        Porter: 47        270 to win
Colorado
Edwards 55%
Porter 45%
Louisiana
Edwards 55%
Porter 45%
North Dakota
Edwards 45%
Porter 55%
Ohio
Edwards 53%
Porter 47%
Pennsylvania
Edwards 53%
Porter 47%
South Dakota
Edwards 46%
Porter 54%
Virginia
Edwards 48%
Porter 52%
11:00 PM EST
Edwards: 227        Porter: 139        270 to win
Arkansas
Edwards 53%
Porter 47%
Georgia
Edwards 49%
Porter 51%
Illinois
Edwards 52%
Porter 48%
Iowa
Edwards 45%
Porter 55%
Kentucky
Edwards 51%
Porter 49%
Maine
Edwards 52%
Porter 48%
Mississippi
Edwards 48%
Porter 52%
Missouri
Edwards 48%
Porter 52%
Montana
Edwards 46%
Porter 54%
Oklahoma
Edwards 48%
Porter 52%
Tennessee
Edwards 47%
Porter 53%
Texas
Edwards 47%
Porter 53%
Utah
Edwards 41%
Porter 59%
Vermont
Edwards 51%
Porter 49%
12:00 AM EST
Edwards: 251        Porter: 182        270 to win
Alabama
Edwards 49%
Porter 51%
Alaska
Edwards 39%
Porter 61%
Delaware
Edwards 51%
Porter 49%
Florida
Edwards 49%
Porter 51%
Hawaii
Edwards 54%
Porter 46%
Idaho
Edwards 44%
Porter 56%
Oregon
Edwards 55%
Porter 45%
Wisconsin
Edwards 52%
Porter 48%
Now the question is can Garrison Porter hold John Edwards back; some close races out there.

It should be noted that most all of the close races have gone to John Edwards.

Porter did pick off Florida which is important. It has proven important in previous election campaigns.

I notice Edwards at 251. California may not matter tonight. New Jersey & North Carolina both would give John Edwards the presidential election. A combination of other states would too. Garrison Porter seems to have competed well in California. 55 electoral votes would however definitely make Edwards the President.

Looking at that map. Its interesting. Six states are outstanding. Polls are closed everywhere across the country. Including California now. New Jersey  & North Carolina have been hanging out there for a long time. Arizona could play king maker.
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Which Pat Quinn accomplishment is your personal favorite? on: September 16, 2014, 08:54:36 am
Repeal of the death penalty
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Are Secretaries of State Almost Always Overrated? on: September 15, 2014, 06:37:33 pm
I see Josh Mandel becoming a Mike DeWine type. Robin Carnahan just needs to keep trying. I hope Richard Murdock does not run again. Alison Grimes will go very far.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 15, 2014, 06:18:04 pm
Every Tit For Every Tat Right Now Between Governor West & Frederick DouglasKentucky goes for Governor West. Frederick Douglas is the winner in Vermont.

Caleb West
Kentucky 13 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Vermont 4 electoral votes

Virginia also cast its electoral votes for Caleb West.

Caleb West
Virginia 12 electoral votes

South Carolina & Georgia & Indiana all cast their electoral votes for Utah Governor & Democrat Caleb West.

Caleb West
South Carolina 9 electoral votes

Caleb West
Georgia 13 electoral votes

Caleb West
Indiana 15 electoral votes
West: 62        Douglas: 4        223 to win

223 that is almost 270. Both West Virginia & Ohio are undecided at this hour. Back in a moment.



Caleb West vs Frederick Douglas
President of the United States of America


election '92 coverage
18  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Political Machine Results on: September 15, 2014, 06:03:51 pm
1:00 AM EST
Edwards: 264        Porter: 215        270 to win
California
Edwards 53%
Porter 47%
Indiana
Edwards 50%
Porter 50% (W)
Vermont
Edwards 50% (W)
Porter 50%
Okay now the election race is in a different place. If John Edwards carries just Oregon alone he is President elect of the United States. Garrison Porter can carry every outstanding state minus New Mexico & win the election. John Edwards can carry Hawaii & Garrison Porter every thing else outstanding & Porter would then win a 270 to 268 electoral college victory with 270 to win.

Garrison Porter has proven a talent in the past at winning undecided states. Washington state & its 11 electoral votes being an examples. Republicans do not often carry Washington state.

They have not had a Republican senator there since 2001.
2:00 AM EST
Edwards: 282        Porter: 237        270 to win
Minnesota
Edwards 49%
Porter 51%
New Mexico
Edwards 50%
Porter 50% (W)
Oklahoma
Edwards 50%
Porter 50% (W)
Oregon
Edwards 52%
Porter 48%
Washington
Edwards 52%
Porter 48%
John Edwards/Bill Richardson
President of the United States of America/Vice President of the United States of America
Edwards elected

That means now in the bid by either man to get 6 election victories Garrison Porter leads by 1.

John Edwards: 3
Garrison Porter/Penelope Cruz: 4
6 to win

It could very easily be turned around either way.

Hypothetically if the end result in that count is 5 to 5 there will be another election to break the tie.

That can go either way. John Edwards may well be favored at this moment.
3:00 AM EST
Edwards: 297        Porter: 237        270 to win
North Carolina
Edwards 50% (W)
Porter 50%
North Carolina is pretty easy to predict tonight. It is the home state of John Edwards. Close race there tonight.
4:00 AM EST
No projections to be made at the top of this hour. Hawaii is the only state still outstanding. All polls are closed across the country & in Alaska & Hawaii.
5:00 AM EST
Edwards: 301        Porter: 237        270 to win
Hawaii
Edwards 50%
Porter 50% (W)
Election results after the certification of all votes cast
Edwards: 301        Porter: 237        270 to win
Nationwide Popular Vote
John Edwards(NC)/Bill Richardson(NM): 51.07198 (87567000)
Garrison Porter(TN)/Penelope Cruz(MO): 48.92802 (83891000)
19  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Political Machine Results on: September 15, 2014, 08:43:28 am
Edwards: 268        Porter: 212        Undecided: 58        270 to win
Final Opinion Poll
John Edwards/Bill Richardson: 48%
Garrison Porter/Penelope Cruz: 48%
Undecided: 4%
John Edwards/Bill Richardson vs Garrison Porter/Penelope Cruz
President of the United States of America/Vice President of the United States of America
Panel?

It has happened before where a candidate wins the election 270 electoral college votes to 268. The poll showing a tie nationally may be right with one candidate very narrowly winning. I do not see a 1 electoral vote out there that would make it 269 to 269. A state may switch.

Its true. The poll is only a result of asking a sampling of eligible voters & likely voters how they intend to vote. Opinion polls are not always accurate.

So Garrison Porter won the first 2 elections & Edwards wins the next 2. The Republican nominee Garrison Porter won the 2 following that meaning the lineup looks like the following.

John Edwards: 2
Garrison Porter/Penelope Cruz: 4
6 to win

Those numbers will change again after tonight.
7:00 PM EST
Edwards: 0        Porter: 21        270 to win
South Carolina
Edwards 42%
Porter 58%
Virginia
Edwards 42%
Porter 58%
7:30 PM EST
Edwards: 5        Porter: 21        270 to win
West Virginia
Edwards 60%
Porter 40%
8:00 PM EST
Edwards: 73        Porter: 54        270 to win
Connecticut
Edwards 60%
Porter 40%
Maryland & District of Columbia
Edwards 60%
Porter 40%
Massachusetts
Edwards 63%
Porter 37%
Mississippi
Edwards 38%
Porter 62%
Missouri
Edwards 43%
Porter 57%
New Jersey
Edwards 59%
Porter 41%
Pennsylvania
Edwards 57%
Porter 43%
Nebraska
Edwards 41%
Porter 59%
Tennessee
Edwards 36%
Porter 64%
8:30 PM EST
Ohio
Edwards 55%
Porter 45%
9:00 PM EST
Colorado
Edwards 39%
Porter 61%
New York
Edwards 61%
Porter 39%
North Dakota
Edwards 40%
Porter 60%
South Dakota
Edwards 38%
Porter 62%
Texas
Edwards 43%
Porter 57%
Wyoming
Edwards 35%
Porter 65%
10:00 PM EST
Edwards: 192        Porter: 170        270 to win
Arizona
Edwards 44%
Porter 56%
Arkansas
Edwards 46%
Porter 54%
Delaware
Edwards 53%
Porter 47%
Florida
Edwards 53%
Porter 47%
Georgia
Edwards 48%
Porter 52%
Illinois
Edwards 53%
Porter 47%
Iowa
Edwards 43%
Porter 57%
Louisiana
Edwards 46%
Porter 54%
Michigan
Edwards 56%
Porter 44%
Montana
Edwards 43%
Porter 57%
Nevada
Edwards 40%
Porter 60%
New Hampshire
Edwards 47%
Porter 53%
Utah
Edwards 31%
Porter 69%
11:00 PM EST
Edwards: 206        Porter: 195        270 to win
Alabama
Edwards 48%
Porter 52%
Idaho
Edwards 34%
Porter 66%
Kentucky
Edwards 49%
Porter 51%
Maine
Edwards 48%
Porter 52%
Rhode Island
Edwards 53%
Porter 47%
Wisconsin
Edwards 53%
Porter 47%

Garrison Porter closes the gap in the electoral college count down to 11 electoral college vote difference with John Edwards. The Republican takes some big wins out West.

Those are set to counter the victories for John Edwards in Florida & Illinois & Ohio. Most important of those is Florida. Georgia stays in the Republican column. Garrison Porter picks off Kentucky. That state was undecided coming into election day. Alabama does stay in the Republican column.

The headline of the night must be that though John Edwards carried 60% of the vote statewide in West Virginia Garrison Porter has won 2 of the 4 states that touch West Virginia. John Edwards carried the other 2. Polls have just closed in Washington state & Hawaii. No clear winner nationally. We will be here a while longer awaiting the winners of this election.
12:00 AM EST
Edwards: 206        Porter: 204        270 to win
Alaska
Edwards 33%
Porter 67%
Kansas
Edwards 49%
Porter 51%
It can be said now at midnight on the East Coast a dead heat in the electoral college count between John Edwards & Garrison Porter for President of the United States.

Garrison porter we now know did 2 points better in Utah than he did in Alaska.

Very good night for Garrison Porter in what is called the 'Rocky Mountain West.' May be enough to deny Democrats New Mexico. New Mexico is the home of Democrat Vice Presidential nominee Bill Richardson the former governor there. The state is still outstanding.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Vice-presidential debate on: September 15, 2014, 08:09:51 am
Most Balanced: Manchin/Huckabee
Hillary Clinton/Joe Manchin is a formidable ticket. The electability of Joe Manchin speaks for itself. Someone said to me recently they did not think Mike Huckabee was aggressive enough to be anywhere on the Republican ticket.
21  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Political Machine Results on: September 14, 2014, 07:03:47 pm
1:00 AM EST
Edwards: 215        Porter: 237        270 to win
The election is getting closer again. John Edwards shows some strength in those states that 2 hours ago were outstanding.
2:00 AM EST
Edwards: 234        Porter: 274        270 to win
Garrison Porter is the winner tonight. He has won the presidential election against John Edwards. Garrison Porter now has 4 election victories nationally & John Edwards 2 in their bid for 6. Former Senator Edwards has every reason to believe he will have more than 234 electoral votes but it is now projected.

Garrison Porter/Penelope Cruz
President of the United States of America/Vice President of the United States of America

John Edwards will not have 270 electoral college votes or more at the end of the night.
3:00 AM EST
Edwards: 234        Porter: 298        270 to win
In victory Garrison Porter extends his winning margin to 58 electoral votes difference over John Edwards.
4:00 AM EST
Edwards: 239        Porter: 292        270 to win
5:00 AM EST
Edwards: 246        Porter: 292        270 to win
Election results after the certification of all votes cast
Edwards: 246        Porter: 292        270 to win
Selected State Results
North Dakota
Edwards 39%
Porter 61%
Alaska
Edwards 32%
Porter 68%
Hawaii
Edwards 47%
Porter 53%
Connecticut
Edwards 57%
Porter 43%
Missouri
Edwards 43%
Porter 57%
National Popular Vote
John Edwards(NC)/Jimmy Carter(GA): 50.1176% (92908000)
Garrison Porter(TN)/Penelope Cruz(MO): 49.8224 (92250000)
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: DE: Rasmussen: Coons+15 on: September 14, 2014, 12:12:57 pm
Only up 15!!!!!
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: IL-Chicago Tribune/APC Research: Quinn takes double-digit (!!!) lead on: September 14, 2014, 11:22:28 am
May God always bless Cook County!
And Republicans say God bless Green Party candidates & half the time Florida.

Good thing there isn't one on the ballot. Checkmate!
I meant just in general. The 2010 senate election in Illinois had one. Florida in 2000 for Gore vs Bush had one too. This poll btw has a lot of undecideds.

So your post in a topic about a poll on the Illinois governor's race was irrelevant? Good to know for future time saving.
You know I'm right. How many yeas have Republicans held the governor mansion since 1972? Cook county did its job well in 1998 jk.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Alternative Elections / Re: 1988: Bush 41 vs. Michael Jackson on: September 14, 2014, 10:52:02 am
Who cares if he's not old enough? He's certainly popular enough.

Based of a thead I made a long time ago.
Jackson met Nixon not Ford.
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: IL-Chicago Tribune/APC Research: Quinn takes double-digit (!!!) lead on: September 13, 2014, 11:08:19 pm
May God always bless Cook County!
And Republicans say God bless Green Party candidates & half the time Florida.

Good thing there isn't one on the ballot. Checkmate!
I meant just in general. The 2010 senate election in Illinois had one. Florida in 2000 for Gore vs Bush had one too. This poll btw has a lot of undecideds.
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