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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: Today at 09:12:14 am
President Grover Cleveland (D-NY)/Vice President George Dewey (D-VT) versus Former Vice President Blanche Bruce (R-MS)/Businessman & Football Star Henry Cocherns (R-WI) Election 1904 Final Opinion Poll
Cleveland: 192
Bruce: 247
Undecided: 37
239 to win

Presidents of the United States of America:
8. Martin Van Buren (1837-1845)
9. Theodore Frelinghuysen (1845-1853)
10. Daniel Webster (1853-1861)
11. Horatio Seymour (1861-1869)
12. John Page (1869-1873)
13. Andrew Johnson (1873-1881)
14. Samuel Tilden (1881-1885)
15. James Blaine (1885-1893)
16. Frederick Douglas (1893-1901)
17. Grover Cleveland (1901-present)
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 29, 2014, 05:56:19 pm
There is a declaration in Montana. Frederick Douglas carries Montana.

Frederick Douglas
Montana 3 electoral votes

Connecticut will go for President Douglas. Grover Cleveland is the next President of the United States. He very narrowly carries New Jersey. Frederick Douglas is denied a 3rd term in the White House. This is Garrison Porter. Thanks for reading.
Cleveland Elected; Frederick Douglas First African American President Denied Third Term In White House
Frederick Douglas
Connecticut 6 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland
New Jersey 10 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland
President of the United States of America




New Jersey (projected result)
Cleveland 47.55%
Douglas 47.18%
Other 3.63%
Cleveland: 224        Douglas: 223        224 to win


election '00 coverage & results
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 29, 2014, 05:41:09 pm
Election coverage 1900. These people that make projections are checking places like Indiana just to make sure. There are some projected totals we are going to show right now in five states beginning with Indiana. These five are all states that have been projected.
Cleveland: 200        Douglas: 160        224 to win

Indiana (projected result)
Cleveland 49.72%
Douglas 44.49%
Other 5.79%
Ohio (projected result)
Cleveland 43.82%
Douglas 50.25%
Other 5.93%
Michigan (projected result)
Cleveland 35.29%
Douglas 60.01%
Other 4.70%
Wisconsin (projected result)
Cleveland 37.51%
Douglas 54.71%
Other 7.78%
Illinois (projected result)
Cleveland 39.93%
Douglas 49.27%
Other 10.80%

A big turnout for the minor party candidates there in Illinois. Grover Cleveland carries Indiana rather clearly. Its more of a blowout for Frederick Douglas the incumbent in Michigan & Wisconsin. There is a projection we are calling Delaware for Grover Cleveland.

Grover Cleveland
Delaware 3 electoral votes

North Carolina and its 11 electoral votes goes for Grover Cleveland. That is a state where both parties competed and the polls tightened. We have been watching the count. Cleveland carries it.

Grover Cleveland
North Carolina 11 electoral votes
Cleveland: 214        Douglas: 160        224 to win

And with those returns. Another 10 electoral college votes going to Grover Cleveland would make the bid by Frederick Douglas for a third term as President of the United States a failed bid.

What history no matter how this works out. An African American making the presidency and serving two terms beginning in 1892.

It is less than 30 years after slavery was at its peak. There are some other returns for President Douglas. He carries Utah & Iowa.


Frederick Douglas
Utah 3 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Iowa 13 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland vs Frederick Douglas
President of the United States of America

Frederick Douglas is also the winner in Nevada. He is also the winner in Massachusetts. That is a key state going for the President awarding him from Massachusetts alone 15 electoral college votes. It is a state he carried 2 times previously.

Frederick Douglas
Nevada 3 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Massachusetts 15 electoral votes

President Douglas & this will be good news for Republicans. This race for President is just too close to call because Frederick Douglas is the winner in all the states that have just as we speak closed their polls at 11 o'clock on the East Coast. Frederick Douglas carries Idaho & Washington & Oregon & California.

Frederick Douglas
Idaho 3 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Washington 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Oregon 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
California 9 electoral votes
Cleveland: 214        Douglas: 214        224 to win

He who carries New Jersey & its 10 electoral votes will be elected President.


election '00 coverage
4  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Political Machine Results on: September 29, 2014, 01:43:36 pm
1:00 AM EST
Grimes: 239        Porter: 247        270 to win
2:00 AM EST
Grimes: 250        Porter: 274        270 to win
Garrison Porter/Natalie Portman
President of the United States of America/Vice President of the United States of America
3:00 AM EST
Grimes: 260        Porter: 278        270 to win
4:00 AM EST
No projections
5:00 AM EST
No projections
Election results after certification of all votes cast
Grimes: 260        Porter: 278        270 to win
National Popular Vote
Alison Grimes(KY)/Woodrow Wilson(NJ) 50.94% (85776000)
Garrison Porter(TN)/Natalie Portman(OH) 49.06% (82583000)
5  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Political Machine Results on: September 29, 2014, 08:29:37 am
Final Opinion Poll(Grimes+1)
Alison Grimes 48%
Garrison Porter 47%
Undecided 5%
Alison Grimes/Woodrow Wilson vs Garrison Porter/Natalie Portman
President of the United States of America/Vice President of the United States of America
7:00 PM EST
Grimes: 0        Porter: 23        270 to win
7:30 PM EST
No projections
8:00 PM EST
Grimes: 43        Porter: 62        270 to win
8:30 PM EST
Grimes: 43        Porter: 77        270 to win
9:00 PM EST
Grimes: 108        Porter: 131        270 to win
10:00 PM EST
Grimes: 128        Porter: 172        270 to win
11:00 PM EST
Grimes: 183        Porter: 212        270 to win
12:00 AM EST
Grimes: 232        Porter: 230        270 to win
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: American Electorate @ Present Timeline on: September 28, 2014, 05:30:54 pm
There are some governor races still outstanding. The polls have just closed on the West Coast meaning the only state with a governor and senate election where the polls are still open is Alaska. Jerry Brown will be going back to the California governors mansion for a 4th term. He served as governor from 1975 until 1983 and he was reelected again almost 30 years later in 2010. He now wins a fourth term.

Jerry Brown
California Governor

The winner in the Oregon governor election is John Kitzhaber. That election was close in Oregon. Kitzhaber has like Brown been governor for a long time. John Kitzhaber has held the office and left and come back a couple of times. It looks like right now at minimum a win in the upper single digits for Kitzhaber.

John Kitzhaber
Oregon Governor

Two Republican winners are in Oregon tonight. Butch Otter will be reelected governor of Idaho holding the seat for Republicans. The winner in the Idaho Senate election is Jim Risch. He holds a Senate seat in Idaho in the upper chamber of congress for the Republican party.

Butch Otter
Idaho Governor

Jim Risch
Idaho Senator

A projection was thought to be coming for Asa Hutchinson as the winner in the Arkansas governor election but that race is still undecided. This is the Republican South. Hutchinson is probably one of the least popular historically in the Arkansas Republican Party. However the demographics are only shifting more to the Republicans in the South. There is a call in Arizona. Doug Ducey will be the winner in the Arizona Governor Election. He is the Republican. Ducey now Governor elect Doug Ducey is the winner against Democrat Fred DuVal. He succeeds Jan Brewer. Doug Ducey does into the office of Arizona governor. Anthony Brown will go to the Maryland Governor Mansion. It would have been historic had his Republican opponent won statewide today and tonight. That Republican would have been only the second Republican Maryland Governor since Spirow Agnew. The other being Bob Erlich who was governor from 2003 to 2007.

Agnew was the last Republican governor of Maryland to be reelected to that statewide office.


Doug Ducey
Arizona Governor

Anthony Brown
Maryland Governor

There is a call to make in Wisconsin. Democrats will perk up at this. They did not have any reason to be down anyway. This election result will be a surprise to some. Mary Burke is the next governor of Wisconsin. Burke defeats Walker in Wisconsin. There are no other of those election races outstanding to project at this moment. Election 2014 coverage continues after this.
Scott Walker is sent into at least what is temporary retirement from public life. Mary Burke is the next governor of Wisconsin. Anthony Brown does what he was expected to do & holds the Maryland governorship for Democrats. Looking for a Hutchinson projection in Arkansas but no call there right now.Mary Burke
Wisconsin Governor



election '14 coverage
7  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Political Machine Results on: September 28, 2014, 03:24:59 pm
1:00 AM EST
Grimes: 140        Porter: 260        270 to win
2:00 AM EST
Grimes: 220        Porter: 306        270 to win
Garrison Porter/Natalie Portman
President of the United States of America/Vice President of the United States of America
3:00 AM EST
No projections
4:00 AM EST
Grimes: 232        Porter: 306        270 to win
5:00 AM EST
No projections
Election results after certification of all votes cast
Grimes: 232        Porter: 306        270 to win
National Popular Vote
Alison Grimes(KY)/Hillary Clinton(NY) 49.63% (86437000)
Garrison Porter(TN)/Natalie Portman(OH) 50.37% (87715000)
Not a lot more could be asked of results from the voting. Given the competitive nature of an election. A lot of the credit goes to the nominee for vice president.
8  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Political Machine Results on: September 28, 2014, 02:08:32 pm
Alison Grimes does what she can to match Garrison Porter. She too selects as woman for the nominee for Vice President on the Democratic ticket. No mandate is expected to be given to either candidate. Certainly not of the type of the 486 electoral college votes and 56.14 percent of the popular vote won by the Porter/Portman ticket in the previous election.
Alison Grimes 0
Garrison Porter/Natalie Portman 1
6 to win
Final Opinion Poll(Porter+1)
Alison Grimes 47%
Garrison Porter 48%
Undecided 5%
Alison Grimes/Hillary Clinton vs Garrison Porter/Natalie Portman
President of the United States of America/Vice President of the United States of America
7:00 PM EST
Grimes: 0        Porter: 8        270 to win
7:30 PM EST
No projections
8:00 PM EST
Grimes: 33        Porter: 57        270 to win
8:30 PM
No projections
9:00 PM EST
Grimes: 33        Porter: 129        270 to win
10:00 PM EST
Grimes: 91        Porter: 167        270 to win
11:00 PM EST
Grimes: 101        Porter: 209        270 to win
12:00 AM EST
Grimes: 127        Porter: 251        270 to win
9  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Political Machine Results on: September 28, 2014, 11:51:29 am
1:00 AM EST
Grimes: 52        Porter: 431        270 to win
2:00 AM EST
No projections
3:00 AM EST
No projections
4:00 AM EST
No projections
5:00 AM EST
Grimes: 52        Porter: 486        270 to win
Election results after certification of all votes cast
Grimes: 52        Porter: 486        270 to win
States carried by Garrison Porter with between 55% of the vote and 59%: Vermont & Connecticut & Delaware & Georgia & Florida & Ohio & Indiana & Missouri & Iowa & Minnesota & Oklahoma & New Mexico. Half of the country grants Garrison Porter 60%+ of the popular vote meaning that Garrison Porter wins 55% of the vote or more in 37 states nationwide.
National Popular Vote
Alison Grimes(KY)/Lyndon Johnson(TX) 43.86% (76760000)
Garrison Porter(TN)/Natalie Portman(OH) 56.14% (98244000)
10  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Political Machine Results on: September 28, 2014, 11:38:07 am
Now it is Garrison Porter/Natalie Portman versus Alison Lundergan Grimes. Those contesting each other for best of 10 elections. That being 6 election victories. This is the first. In this election Alison Grimes hardly had a chance with two weeks left before election day.
Final Opinion Poll(Porter+13)
Alison Grimes 41%
Garrison Porter 54%
Undecided 5%
Alison Grimes/Lyndon Johnson vs Garrison Porter/Natalie Portman
President of the United States of America/Vice President of the United States of America
7:00 PM EST
Grimes: 0        Porter: 50        270 to win
7:30 PM EST
No projections
8:00 PM EST
Grimes: 0        Porter: 147        270 to win
8:30 PM EST
Grimes: 0        Porter: 188        270 to win
9:00 PM EST
Grimes: 31        Porter: 274        270 to win
Garrison Porter/Natalie Portman
President of the United States of America/Vice President of the United States of America
10:00 PM EST
Grimes: 52        Porter: 306        270 to win
11:00 PM EST
Grimes: 52        Porter: 380        270 to win
12:00 AM EST
Grimes: 52        Porter: 404        270 to win
11  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Political Machine Results on: September 26, 2014, 08:56:06 am
1:00 AM EST
Edwards: 160        Porter: 343        270 to win
2:00 AM EST
Edwards: 178        Porter: 343        270 to win
3:00 AM EST
Edwards: 195        Porter: 343        270 to win
Election results after certification of all the votes cast
Edwards: 195        Porter: 343        270 to win
National Popular Vote
John Edwards(NC)/John Kerry(MA) 47.20% (85348000)
Garrison Porter(TN)/Penelope Cruz(MO) 52.80% (95445000)
Panel?

Its very clear that this is no mandate for the Republican ticket. Its a unique election result. Garrison Porter clearly passed the 270 required to win. He won in key parts of the country. From about 10 o'clock or 11 o'clock onward all of the states casting their electoral college votes for the Porter/Cruz ticket had done so. The exit poll was right. Every undecided state besides Oklahoma cast its electoral votes for John Edwards
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 25, 2014, 10:59:18 pm
Grover Cleveland is carrying Arkansas & Louisiana. Frederick Douglas is the winner in Illinois & Michigan & Wisconsin & Minnesota. Cleveland carries both New York state & West Virginia.

Grover Cleveland
Arkansas 8 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland
Louisiana 8 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Illinois 24 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Michigan 14 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Wisconsin 12 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Minnesota 9 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland
New York 36 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland
West Virginia 6 electoral votes
Cleveland: 171        Douglas: 138        224 to win

President Douglas is the winner in North Dakota & South Dakota & Nebraska.

Frederick Douglas
North Dakota 3 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
South Dakota 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Nebraska 8 electoral votes

Governor Cleveland is the winner in Maryland & Missouri. Douglas carries Rhode Island & Wyoming. Cleveland also carries Colorado. Election 1900 coverage continues after this.

Grover Cleveland
Maryland 8 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland vs Frederick Douglas
President of the United States of America

Grover Cleveland
Missouri 17 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Rhode Island 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Wyoming 3 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland
Colorado 4 electoral votes



Cleveland: 200        Douglas: 160        224 to win


election '00 coverage
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 24, 2014, 11:14:09 pm
Cleveland Leaps Into The Lead; The South Staying With DemocratsAt 7 o'clock EST we can declare Grover Cleveland the winner in Indiana & Kentucky & Virginia & South Carolina & Georgia. President Douglas running for his 3rd term carries Vermont.

Grover Cleveland
Indiana 15 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland
Kentucky 13 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland
Virginia 12 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland
South Carolina 9 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland
Georgia 13 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland vs Frederick Douglas
President of the United States of America

Frederick Douglas
Vermont 4 electoral votes

President Douglas carries Ohio & Pennsylvania & New Hampshire & Maine. Governor Cleveland is the winner in Texas & Tennessee & Florida.

Frederick Douglas
Ohio 23 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Pennsylvania 32 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
New Hampshire 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Maine 6 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland
Texas 15 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland
Tennessee 12 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland
Florida 4 electoral votes

Kansas is for Douglas. Alabama & Mississippi go for Cleveland.

Frederick Douglas
Kansas 10 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland
Alabama 11 electoral votes

Grover Cleveland
Mississippi 9 electoral votes

Back in a moment.



Cleveland: 113        Douglas: 79        224 to win


election '00 coverage
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 24, 2014, 11:55:27 am
"The only thing more unprecedented than this is if I run again in four years in the event our ticket wins in November. I am running for a third term as President."-Frederick Douglas, 1900 election announcement
Former New York Governor Grover Cleveland (D-NY)/Admiral George Dewey (D-VT) versus President Frederick Douglas (R-MD)/Vice President Blanche Bruce (R-MS) Election 1900 Final Public Opinion Poll
Cleveland: 171
Douglas: 238
Undecided: 38
224 to win
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 24, 2014, 11:19:36 am
There Is A Projected WinnerIts done. The election is over. Frederick Douglas carries Delaware. He is reelected President of the United States. He defeats William Jennings Bryan in this election. Frederick Douglas wins the White House & renews his contract with the American electorate for 4 more years as President. This is Garrison Porter thanks for reading.

Frederick Douglas
Delaware 3 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
President of the United States of America



Bryan: 222        Douglas: 225        224 to win


election '96 coverage & results
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 24, 2014, 11:09:23 am
Bryan: 183        Douglas: 181        224 to win
11 o'clock EST; Now It Is All Up To Bryan Illinois & Its 24 Electoral College Votes Go For Frederick Douglas
Frederick Douglas is the winner in what was in the campaign & has been up to this hour a very competitive election vote in the state. Illinois goes for Frederick Douglas the Republican.

Frederick Douglas
Illinois 24 electoral votes

Now if Frederick Douglas also carries Ohio the election is over. President Douglas carries all three California & Oregon & Washington state.

Frederick Douglas
California 9 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Oregon 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Washington 4 electoral votes
Bryan: 183        Douglas: 222        224 to win

One more state casting its electoral college votes for Frederick Douglas will ultimately win President Douglas a 2nd term in the White House. William Jennings Bryan would then become the also ran candidate in this election. Ohio will cast its electoral votes for William Jennings Bryan. Now the Democrat has stopped the President in one state. He also carries Utah. 2 down & and 3 to go. It all comes down to this.

William Jennings Bryan
Ohio 23 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Utah 3 electoral votes

Hanging on Bryan will carry Idaho. He is also the winner in Kansas.

William Jennings Bryan
Idaho 3 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Kansas 10 electoral votes

A call in Delaware & the winner in this election. In short election 1896 close coming up after this.



National Popular Vote (Projected)
Bryan 48.92%
Douglas 48.24%
Other 2.84%


election '96 coverage
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 24, 2014, 08:21:11 am
William Jennings Bryan is the winner in Nevada & Montana & Maryland. President Douglas the candidate for reelection is the winner in Iowa. Bryan retains his lead in the electoral college.

William Jennings Bryan
Nevada 3 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Montana 3 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Maryland 8 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Iowa 13 electoral votes


election '96 coverage
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 23, 2014, 09:43:13 am
With All Of The South In Democrat Bryan Looks To Border States & The West To Reach 224 Electoral College VotesThere are some other projections we can tell you about. Frederick Douglas will carry South Dakota & North Dakota. To be fair West Virginia went earlier for Frederick Douglas & Nebraska goes for William Jennings Bryan.

Frederick Douglas
South Dakota 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
North Dakota 3 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Nebraska 8 electoral votes

President Douglas is the winner in Wisconsin & Michigan & Minnesota & New Jersey. New York has closed its polls. Frederick Douglas leads there but we can make no projection in the state at this hour.

Frederick Douglas
Wisconsin 12 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Michigan 14 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Minnesota 9 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
New Jersey 10 electoral votes

Wyoming will cast its electoral votes for Frederick Douglas. Diddo in Rhode Island those electoral votes from that state go for President Frederick Douglas. William Jennings Bryan is the easy winner in Colorado tonight.

Frederick Douglas
Wyoming 3 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Rhode Island 4 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Colorado 4 electoral votes

We are calling New York for President Douglas. A state where both candidates spent a lot of time. The Democrat Vice Presidential nominee is the former governor of the state. It is a closer race there than 4 years ago but we are projecting that when all of the votes are counted statewide Frederick Douglas will carry the state and its 36 electoral college votes.

Frederick Douglas
New York 36 electoral votes
Bryan: 142        Douglas: 168        224 to win
Frederick Douglas Carries New York In Spite Of The Presence Of Grover Cleveland On Democrat TicketDouglas not only carries New York but takes the lead in the electoral college. That lead may be given back to William Jennings Bryan now because we are projecting Representative Bryan to be the winner in Texas & Florida & Louisiana. No contest in any of those three states.

William Jennings Bryan
Texas 15 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Florida 4 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Louisiana 8 electoral votes

Back in a moment



Bryan: 169        Douglas: 168        224 to win

William Jennings Bryan vs Frederick Douglas
President of the United States of America


election '96 coverage
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: The Johnson Treatment: The Troubled Sixties And Beyond on: September 23, 2014, 09:04:28 am
November 9th, 1960: Day After Election Night - Johnson Narrowly Beats Nixon!
WASHINGTON D.C., 12:30 PM - Senator Lyndon Baines Johnson of Texas narrowly secured the electoral vote by one point after an intense count of votes in Illinois. By securing an alliance of Southerners and Unions, Johnson has returned the New Deal coalition to power. He and Vice President-Elect Stuart Symington of Missouri will be sworn in on January 20th, 1961.



Lydnon Baines Johnson (D-TX)/Stuart Symington (D - MO): 269 EVs - Popular Vote TBD.
Richard Milhous Nixon (R-CA)/Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA): 268 EVs - Popular Vote TBD.
I think the electoral college map is really good. Absolutely Johnson would had he actually been the nominee in 1960 he would have done poorly in places where Kennedy did really well. I commend you for a very well put together electoral college map given the nominated tickets.
20  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Political Machine Results on: September 23, 2014, 09:00:11 am
Edwards: 69        Porter: 345        Undecided: 124        270 to win
Final Opinion Poll
Edwards/Kerry 45%
Porter/Cruz 51%
Undecided 4%
John Edwards/John Kerry vs Garrison Porter/Penelope Cruz
President of the United States of America/Vice President of the United States of America
Considering his 6 point lead in the polls and looking at the map it appears Garrison Porter will secure that 6th election victory against John Edwards in each man's bid for best of 10 election victories against one another. Both candidates have shown strength and talent at winning in the electoral college. Edwards has won 3 times and Porter 5. The last time narrowly.

Given the 6 point lead this also probably means Garrison Porter will win the popular vote. That being something that does not always happen. Yes a candidate can loose the popular vote and win the election still because that candidate carries at least 270 electoral college votes. It is possible for a candidate to win 270 to 268. It is also possible that a tie in the electoral college occurs that being 269 to 269. Then the house of representatives chooses the President and the senate the Vice President. In real life that is not a computer game those votes in congress occur after the new congress is sworn in.

The question about the popular vote is how big of a margin will Garrison Porter win the popular vote. A six point lead suggests something like 53-47. That without a doubt is a solid showing. It can be as little as 51-49 and 345 electoral college votes and as big as what 55-45 and 469 electoral college votes. Pretty big difference.

Its an accomplished victory if the polls are to be believed. Look to New Jersey & Maryland & Pennsylvania & Ohio.

Candidate Porter will win the popular vote when he can hold down the Democrat margin & even carry in some cases New York & California.

Exit polls indicate the undecided votes are going in favor of John Edwards & the popular vote margin of difference is at least 10 million votes.
7:00 PM EST
Edwards: 0        Porter: 43        270 to win
7:30 PM EST
No projections
8:00 PM EST
Edwards: 0        Porter: 100        270 to win
8:30 PM EST
Edwards: 0        Porter: 120        270 to win
9:00 PM EST
Edwards: 38        Porter: 170        270 to win
10:00 PM EST
Edwards: 38        Porter: 278        270 to win
Garrison Porter/Penelope Cruz
President of the United States of America/Vice President of the United States of America
11:00 PM EST
Edwards: 38        Porter: 291        270 to win
12:00 AM EST
Edwards: 38        Porter: 343        270 to win
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 22, 2014, 07:46:06 pm
I am told there are some projections now. William Jennings Bryan the Democrat challenger will carry Georgia & South Carolina & Virginia.

William Jennings Bryan
Georgia 13 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
South Carolina 9 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Virginia 12 electoral votes

Other projections now. President Douglas will carry Vermont & Bryan Kentucky. Indiana is undecided at this hour. William Jennings Bryan leads in Indiana.

Frederick Douglas
Vermont 4 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Kentucky 13 electoral votes

The call comes quickly now. We can call William Jennings Bryan the winner in Indiana. The state stays in the Democratic column tonight. President Frederick Douglas is the winner in Connecticut & Massachusetts & New Hampshire & Maine. He also carries Pennsylvania. William Jennings Bryan is the winner in Alabama & Mississippi.

William Jennings Bryan
Indiana 15 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Connecticut 6 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Massachusetts 15 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
New Hampshire 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Maine 6 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Pennsylvania 32 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Alabama 11 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Mississippi 9 electoral votes
Bryan: 82        Douglas: 67        224 to win

So Representative Bryan leads by 15 in some very early electoral college vote count tallies. Bryan carries add to what he already has Missouri & Tennessee & North Carolina & Arkansas.

West Virginia is casting its 6 electoral votes for President Douglas again this year. One of the deciding states four years ago. This is a new call. West Virginia stays in the Republican column.

More election 1896 coverage after this.


William Jennings Bryan
Missouri 17 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Tennessee 12 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
North Carolina 11 electoral votes

William Jennings Bryan
Arkansas 8 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
West Virginia 6 electoral votes
Frederick Douglas Carries West Virginia & Democrat Challenger William Jennings Bryan Leads Electoral College Count


Bryan: 113        Douglas: 73        224 to win


election '96 coverage
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 21, 2014, 10:53:14 pm
Former Representative William Jennings Bryan (D-NE)/Former New York Governor Grover Cleveland (D-NY) versus President Frederick Douglas (R-MD)/Vice President Blanche Bruce (R-MS) Election 1896 Final Opinion Poll
Bryan: 181
Douglas: 156
Undecided: 110
224 to win
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 21, 2014, 06:48:51 pm
The governor of Utah whose state did not even cast electoral college votes in this election carries Montana & Ohio. This is Garrison Porter thanks for reading.

Caleb West
Montana 3 electoral votes

Caleb West
Ohio 23 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
President of the United States of America

Frederick Douglas
New York 36 electoral votes




New York (Projected Result)
West 44.74%
Douglas 49.11%
Other 6.15%
West: 209        Douglas: 235        223 to win


election '92 coverage & results
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 21, 2014, 06:37:15 pm
Frederick Douglas Is Elected President of the United States; First African American To Win The OfficeFrederick Douglas is the next President of the United States. He carries California which alone elects him President. The Republican carries the state & its 9 electoral college votes.

Frederick Douglas
California 9 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
President of the United States of America

The President elect of the United States is the winner in Oregon & Washington state & Idaho. Caleb West is the winner in Arkansas

Frederick Douglas
Oregon 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Washington 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Idaho 3 electoral votes

Caleb West
Arkansas 8 electoral votes

More after this & election 1892 close coming up.


election '92 coverage
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: the birth of modern america & onward on: September 21, 2014, 06:26:00 pm
Social reformer Frederick Douglas is the winner in New York & Illinois & Kansas & Utah.

Frederick Douglas
New York 36 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Illinois 24 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Kansas 10 electoral votes

Republican nominee & Social Reformer carries North  & South Dakotas & Iowa.

Frederick Douglas
North Dakota 3 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
South Dakota 4 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
Iowa 13 electoral votes
West: 150        Douglas: 209        223 to win

All of that for Frederick Douglas. Governor West does carry North Carolina & Nevada. He is also the winner in Louisiana & Delaware. Douglas carries West Virginia.

Caleb West
North Carolina 11 electoral votes

Caleb West
Nevada 3 electoral votes

Caleb West
Louisiana 8 electoral votes

Caleb West
Delaware 3 electoral votes

Frederick Douglas
West Virginia 6 electoral votes

Election 1892 coverage continues after this.



West: 175        Douglas: 215        223 to win


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