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1  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What is your personality? on: Today at 05:10:08 am

Extravert(44%)  iNtuitive(12%)  Thinking(1%)  Judging(1%)
You have moderate preference of Extraversion over Introversion (44%)
You have slight preference of Intuition over Sensing (12%)
You have marginal or no preference of Thinking over Feeling (1%)
You have marginal or no preference of Judging over Perceiving (1%)
2  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What was your favorite #1 hit in 2014? on: Today at 05:02:11 am
Hmmm, yes terrible.

I suppose Dark Horse was useful in the gym...
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Where should Hillary Clinton build her library? on: Today at 02:24:56 am
The state she loves the most: Illinoisarkansasnewyork!

Well, at least it's not Massachusettsnewhampshiremichigancaliforniautah. Wink

4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: Today at 02:09:46 am
Aye on the amendment.

 Why should Arabic be recognized but not Hebrew? Section 2.1 must be eliminated before I'll even consider supporting this bill.  The government shouldn't be funding everyone having birth control. My tax dollars shouldn't be used to fund the consequences of a couples loose moral choices. With punishing those of us who don't want to find others having contraception. This should always be a choice of the couple with the monetary consequences for that individual couple. Don't put it on celibate singles, the lgbt, or those whose religious beliefs discourage the use of such products. There are religious rights that you guys are not considering in this case.

No one is forcing contraception on those who don't want it.

Religious freedom is not an absolute right.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Senator Polnut - Victory Remarks on: Today at 02:04:32 am


Getting the work done

I was recently re-elected to the Senate to do a job. To represent all Atlasians, whether they voted for me or not. This is a responsibility I have taken seriously, and I will continue to do so.

There are a number of significant Bills and processes before the Senate right now.

One is our Federal Budget. As president, I was the first in a long time to present a comprehensive Budget to the Senate. The Senate speaks to our priorities as a nation. I will work with my fellow Senators and the White House to generate a package that respects our responsibilities, builds for the future and is fiscally responsible.

We have seen proposals for radical reforms of our tax code. Shifting the entirety of the taxation burden to those earning over $125,000 per year. I understand the desire to make sure the wealthy pay their fair share. But the proposal in the Senate is not only unfair, is it a recipe for fiscal disaster. Where will the revenue for all these programs come from when the wealthy move their assets offshore and people start to deliberately under-earn? This is not, let me say this loud and clear, it is not a defense of the very wealthy, it is defending the programs the help our most vulnerable, help educate our kids, provide healthcare for all and assist in promoting global stability. I have said during the campaign, that I am open to a serious discussion about tax reform. But I will not entertain any proposals that put the programs I believe in and advocate for in jeopardy. The broken-record call for increasing taxes on the rich to fix an economic problem is attractive, but will not work. We need to focus on prioritising our spending and finding ways to efficiently increasing our revenues.

Another is the Bill before the Senate on support for our carers. I have proposed a very modest supplement. While we work through the exact funding mechanism, I want to make clear that I am determined to follow through on my promise to deliver increased support to those who make such a sacrifice. I want to work with my fellow Senators to get this done and to convince the president that this was needed yesterday. But I hope my fellow Senators will see through the dramatics to see the real need that these people are experiencing and not use it as an excuse to grand-stand.

Finally, the President is yet to sign the Universal Education Bill. This Bill guarantees access to all Atlasian students, who qualify academically to attend a public university, without having to pay upfront fees and to be able to graduate without the fear of debt collectors. I urge the President to sign this Bill. The education of our future engineers, doctors, teachers and lawyers, matters much more than a defence spending increase.
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / LOA - 24-28 December 2014 on: Today at 01:23:34 am
I will have limited availability during this period.
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Recall Amendment (Debating) on: Today at 01:11:47 am
Again, I'd like to ask Senator TNF to advocate for this Bill. Why this mechanism is required etc etc.
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Improving Support for Carers Bill 2014 (Debating) on: Today at 01:08:18 am
It's not a dictatorial move to reclaim what has been stolen from the working class in the first place.

... good to know we remain on topic.
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Motion for Christmas Recess on: Today at 01:07:40 am
This has never been done before (to my knowledge) and I so no reason that we should start doing so now. If you won't be here, post an LOA and be done with it.

Lol, I don't really see why this is a big deal.

I'll be posting a LOA, the recess proposal wasn't only for my benefit.
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Motion for Christmas Recess on: December 19, 2014, 11:38:30 pm
What about the budget polnut? Tongue

We'll see what can be done.
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Motion for Christmas Recess on: December 19, 2014, 08:36:17 pm

I'm motioning that we cease Senate activity from 11:59pm on Tuesday 23 December 2014 and re-convene from 12:01am on Friday 2 January 2015 to enable a Christmas recess.

12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Christmas traditions unique to your country/region on: December 19, 2014, 06:41:31 pm
That's easy - it's Summer here. So BBQs, lots of seafood and al-fresco dining .
13  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: December 18, 2014, 11:16:37 pm

Stomach-churning in fact.
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Sanity in Foreign Policy Act (Voting on Amendment) on: December 18, 2014, 10:54:45 pm
Ugh - I thought I had voted on that amendment!

I would have voted AYE fwiw
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Improving Support for Carers Bill 2014 (Debating) on: December 18, 2014, 09:32:50 pm
While in other circumstances this effort would indeed be a good idea, I worry that with the recent spending spree we would be able to pay for this considering that we don't even know the impact of past educational and health care reforms. And since I am strongly considering signing the most recent education bill (it shouldn't take long), it would mean expense after expense that we might not be able to pay.

Considering the Education Bill is a loan program and Senator Cranberry's calculations suggest it is Budget-neutral to positive over the longer term, I'd be concerned if you were to dismiss this due to a possible short-term Budget blip.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post a song from the year you were born on: December 18, 2014, 09:25:32 pm
Best Songs of 1983
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: some thoughts on homosexuality on: December 18, 2014, 07:30:57 pm
Are Gustaf and Big Daddy TX coming out here?

Huh? He came out before I'm pretty sure but I've no idea where you see coming out in my two posts. One can have gay friends and support the right to sexual freedom without being gay oneself. Tongue

Don't tell Hifly...

On topic. It's a tough process when you're in an environment when you have it re-enforced that there's something wrong with being gay. Comments like "you can just keep it to yourself" is actually incredibly dangerous. Do I think the process of 'coming out' is a bit, silly? Of course I do, straight people don't need to announce to the world that they're straight. But that's the inherent problem. If you're not open about your sexuality, no one is saying become a 'professional gay' (ie, the people who treat their sexuality/gender etc as the most interesting thing about themselves)... but acknowledging your sexuality is important, if only for your mental health.

'Keeping it to yourself', even if there are people who are strategically not informed, tends to have terrible outcomes in the longer term. There's no shock that there is a direct correlation between sexuality (or perceived) and youth suicide. In Australia, there is a large skew toward rural and regional areas (ie less socially open and inclusive) and about 1/3 of all suicides of young people are connected to issues about sexuality.

This is an issue I feel very strongly about as a close friend committed suicide at 14 because people teased him for being gay. I actually have no idea whether he was or wasn't, the fact was unless there is visibility, nothing changes.

I understand if you're in a situation where it might not be totally accepted, but you need to be honest and true to yourself. That means bringing people in and not keeping it completely to yourself.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Poll: 59% CIA Treatment Fair, 57% torture justified on: December 18, 2014, 07:07:57 pm
It's pretty simple really, people are reading way too much into what 'political' elements can be drawn from this.

The US has a soft spot for their 'institutions' and assumes foreigners are out to get them. "Well they wouldn't be being tortured for no reason would they?" etc.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: December 18, 2014, 05:54:16 pm
Sorry Polnut, a vote isn't open at the moment Tongue

However, I'm going to object to JCL's amendment.

Senators a vote is now open on JCL's amendment, please vote aye nay or abstain

Sorry - that was my objection... not a vote.
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Improving Support for Carers Bill 2014 (Debating) on: December 18, 2014, 05:53:33 pm
Senator, I personally do not oppose relatively high taxes on the rich. But we have reached a level, that, if increased even more, would generate nothing but the flight of capital into private fonds and to the Cayman Islands or whatever. The result would be less revenue rather than more.

It would generate cash flight, again, benefiting accountants and tax attorneys not the people we need to help. Just as cutting taxes has a decreasing benefit, the same is true of just upping taxes to cover everything.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Recall Amendment (Debating) on: December 17, 2014, 09:22:06 pm

So, correct me please if I'm wrong... I think this thing needs some commas.

But if an official has 25% of registered voters petition for a recall, and if more people vote for the recall, than voted for the official in the first instance, provided it is more than 25% of registered voters, then they're recalled?

I think there would be a significant equity issue for people who were elected, say, before a large population influx. Let's say...

Candidate A - gets 13 votes
Candidate B - gets 9 votes
... total registered voters - 29 = turnout 22/29 = 72.4%

In the proceeding months there's an influx of say 5 new voters. Increasing the registered voter numbers to 34.

A recall petition is started, say... 10 people sign - that's 29.4% of registered voters.

In the ballot for recall
Yes gets 15
No gets 16

That's 15/34 = 44.1%of registered voters voted for the recall and in raw numbers, greater than those who voted for Candidate A in the first election- but 51.6% of voters, voted against the recall...

Clearly Senator TNF has some specific scenarios he wishes to address with this... or he wishes to clarify the mechanism, I don't think this is an especially fair process.

Let alone my personal distaste for loading our Constitution up with stuff like this.
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: December 17, 2014, 09:02:39 pm
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Article of Impeachment Against Senator Bacon King on: December 17, 2014, 06:05:20 pm
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: December 17, 2014, 06:04:55 pm
My concern with that clause is that it takes an exclusively female space away from women. I'm especially concerned with like, bar bathrooms and other such places where sexual assaults might rise from this

25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: FY 2015 Budget (Voting on Amendment) on: December 17, 2014, 05:22:21 pm
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