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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Australian Federal Election- July 2, 2016 on: Today at 07:19:46 am
I keep thinking the CFA thing is more of a 'beltway' fascination... I don't see this being a decisive issues one way or another.
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Australian Federal Election- July 2, 2016 on: Today at 06:01:00 am
Grayndler? Also isn't losing it.
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish independence referendum 2017? on: June 24, 2016, 06:26:42 am
Obviously - I can't vote. I thought the last ref was devoid of a plan and had no cause other than emotion and sentiment. BUT this time there would be a legitimate and tangible justification...
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 09:44:16 pm
Robin Hood and Little John are now walking through the forest delivering the news of a Brexit victory to the entire of Mama Merkel's big fat empire.

BTW - are you 15 yet?
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 09:43:33 pm
So the high turnout probably benefited the Leave campaign?

Overall turnout in strong leave areas has helped them, whereas lower turnout in remain areas has absolutely hurt them.
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 09:34:52 pm
Edinburgh:
Remain - 187,792 (74.4%)
Leave - 64,498 (25.6%)

Beautiful Edinburgh
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 09:30:03 pm
It's difficult to tell pandaguineapig lol
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 09:27:25 pm
We're not even over 50% of places yet, with a margin that can be easily flipped, lol.

I think leave absolutely has an advantage here, but c'mon people.


Merkel is seeing her dream of a fourth Reich crumble before her eyes

That's, quite frankly one of the most ridiculous things I've read in this thread.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 09:09:36 pm
Lol, there's still plenty of votes to go. It could go either way, there's still a lot of London, Birmingham is  a biggie, Edinburgh and Cardiff still outstanding plus the S/W isn't as anti-Europe and the S/E has been.
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 08:54:25 pm
Islington
75-25 remain
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 08:51:37 pm
Wigan nearly wipes out the Remain margin. Still very even. I wonder how English big cities other than London will go.

Birmingham, Liverpool, (maybe Manchester city) and the rest of London.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 08:21:50 pm
It's early, true. But very good results for Leave.

BBC: sources in Labour call it for Leave.


People, its really happening. Im so proud of the UK. They do love freedom!

They must also love the collapse in their economy.

You really dont understand the arguments. Back to project fear. Britons just never will be slaves!

Hopefully this means further integration for the remainder of Europe now that they are not weighed down by the UK.

Hardly,
 

Means Right parties from Netherlands, Sweden, Austria, France and others gain support.

Mama Merkel is surely going to pay for invinting 2 million guests to someone elses home.

And now the nazi!
Lol at Extreme Leftie hahahhah, go get checked. Nazis killed my Great grandparents for being Slavs so please, you are not fit to comment on this.



When/if Brexit happens, Strache/Le Pen will have a field day with this.

So, he's just a good old fascist.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 08:13:08 pm
It's early, true. But very good results for Leave.

BBC: sources in Labour call it for Leave.


People, its really happening. Im so proud of the UK. They do love freedom!

They must also love the collapse in their economy.

You really dont understand the arguments. Back to project fear. Britons just never will be slaves!

Except 'project fear' is their spin for not having answers to legitimate question about the already emerging economic consequences. The real project fear was the leave campaign fanning the flames of xenophobia in order to win.
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 08:09:00 pm
It's early, true. But very good results for Leave.

BBC: sources in Labour call it for Leave.


People, its really happening. Im so proud of the UK. They do love freedom!

Indeed. Freedom for higher unemployment, deflation, wages drops... yay.

15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 07:57:01 pm
Hot damn. It seems like it's happening. I hope my friends and I will go drunk not only on beer and wine tonight, but also on champagne. But it's still early.

While they can still afford it.
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 07:51:18 pm
Yeah this might not even be close.  Wow.

Noting that NOTHING in London is in yet. Calm people.
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 07:44:55 pm
Was against Scotland declaring their independence last year, but if they overwhelmingly vote to remain in while England stupidly votes out, they should immediately call for new independence vote which I would support.

I thought exactly the same thing today. Why should they get driven off a cliff?
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 07:31:32 pm
Isn't NI supposed to be pro-remain?

That part of NI is heavily Unionist, which backed leave.

19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 07:29:34 pm
Dundee 60-40
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 07:27:32 pm
RIP the pound, RIP the City of London.

They were good while they lasted.

I am not sure a leave decision is negative on the long run.  I agree on the short run there will be economic dislocation. 


I have yet to see a good rationale as to why London will remain a major financial center if trade and service barriers are reimposed on England as most of the European heads of state have said they would be.

The idea that London is the economic capital, just because it is, is nuts. The connection to European markets is one of THE key reasons why the shift back to London from Frankfurt happened, and why those international markets will shift back to the continent.
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 07:23:36 pm
South Tyneside

Leave 62%
Remain 38%

GREAT news for Leave.  South Tyneside is a strong Labour area.

Working-class Labor voters in industrial areas are among those most supporting leave. This is no shock.

22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 06:22:36 pm
A few more results and I think we can call it for Leave.

Awful, seems like the actual project fear might have done it. But I will wait for while before that.

But it's still way too early.

Sunderland was NOT expected to be 53-47
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 06:15:04 pm
When is Sunderland coming up?

Does it matter? We know it's going to be ugly...
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 06:02:24 pm
Eeeep...
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 09:28:46 am


Well, this is exactly the kind of patronising bullsh**t floating around my fb feed that eventually made me swing back to voting leave after briefly flirting with voting to remain (because I highly doubt that the referendum will be so close as to hinge on one vote). I mean, the idea that our leaving the EU will mean we cease to be a 'big player' (whatever that means) in the world is rather specious to say the least, given that we will continue to have one of the largest armies and independent nuclear deterrents in the west, one of the largest financial services centres in the world, a permanent seat on the UN Security Council and representation in the G8 and G20.

 As for being a 'big player' in Europe, I think our weak position in Europe has largely been exposed by this referendum campaign - Cameron's much vaunted renegotiation of our relationship with the EU turned out to be a damp squib, and even the 'concessions' extracted there are the absolute maximum that we'll be able to wring from the EU, according to Jean Claude Juncker at least. We've also signed away our control over our own trade policy as a member of the EU (a fact that, ironically, pushed me towards the Remain camp, as our existing trade deals through the EU will be rendered null and void by leaving) and control over various other areas of policy that should be in the hands of the British policy (although not to the extent that the Leave campaign has made out). We've always had what amounts to an adversarial relationship with the EU, remaining (correctly in my view) outside of key developments in that institution over the years (the Euro and Schengen to name but two), which has also reduced our influence in Europe, as we are correctly perceived as not being fully committed to the European project. This will not change in the aftermath of the referendum, one way or another.

Boiling important political discussion down to silly and patronising memes isn't really helpful, especially when those memes put across points that are basically blatant fabrications.

You changed your vote because of Facebook memes?
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