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8251  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: NE Assembly and Lt. Governor on: January 20, 2011, 06:26:52 pm
I think there might be a touch of apathy about the Lt Governor position.

8252  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 30 years ago today... on: January 20, 2011, 06:24:30 pm
Um... actually that picture is from 25 years ago tomorrow... nice try.
8253  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Executive Council of the UDL on: January 20, 2011, 06:22:00 pm
So, what's going on then? Sorry, but my Atlasia persona is a senile old man.

So it seems Tongue

A party at-large vote this weekend - lasting 48 hours.

It will not be IRV, but a single [X] next to one name, and party members will be able to choose to have their previously cast private ballots to stand. However, no new private ballots will be accepted and those private ballots cannot be changed.

The usual 20-min standard will apply, changes to ballots will be accepted up to 20 mins after original drafting, but ANY changes to the ballot will void them.
8254  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 10 years ago today.... on: January 20, 2011, 06:15:05 pm
Hmm, what a sad day for America (and the World) this day was (and also the election day before) ... Sad

Indeed, I remember being genuinely miserable watching it.

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=130959.msg2790477#msg2790477

A much better day for America and the world.
8255  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / 50 Years Ago Today... on: January 20, 2011, 06:13:30 pm
8256  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Are you Jewish? on: January 20, 2011, 07:58:50 am
I'm a 1/4 Jewish, but I don't have any connection to it.
8257  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Northeast Assembly Thread on: January 20, 2011, 12:51:30 am
Look, I don't disagree with that... however, I believe that this law's constitutionality would be challenged, and probably successfully.
8258  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: TRC Poll - First and Second Preferencing on: January 20, 2011, 12:25:00 am
This is exactly why the Atlasian left has to generally... get over themselves... and realise that in order to win this election we have to be united...
8259  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Northeast Assembly Thread on: January 20, 2011, 12:21:56 am
As you know, we come from completely different perspectives on this... however, I don't have many concerns with this Bill...

The only thing that worries me - is it would potentially be challenged as it could be open to abuse... for example, a gun shop owner, may not want to sell a gun to someone of a particular ethnicity.

While I do like severe restrictions on the availability of lethal weapons, and shop owners should have the right to refuse service to someone that they consider unstable ... however, having a coverall of "for any reason" - would counter anti-discrimination laws...

While gun shop owners should have the right to refuse service to someone they consider a risk, a customer cannot be refused service based purely on race.
8260  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Political Quiz List. Are you a Quiz Whiz? on: January 20, 2011, 12:14:02 am
   My #1 is:   American ''Liberal''     
   My #2 is:   Social-Liberal 
   My #3 is:   Liberal Socialist       
   My #4 is:   Social Democratic       
   My #5 is:   Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)   
   My #6 is:   Anarcho-Communist
   My #7 is:   Liberal 
   My #8 is:   Christian Democratic   
   My #9 is:   Marxist       
   My #10 is: American ''Conservative''      
   My #11 is: Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)   
   My #12 is: Burkean (liberal) Conservative   
   My #13 is: Soviet ''Communist''   
   My #14 is: Liberal Nationalist   
   My #15 is: Fascist 
   My #16 is: National Socialist   
   My #17 is: Christian Socialist   
   My #18 is: Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)   


8261  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Northeast Assembly Thread on: January 19, 2011, 11:47:46 pm
We will now move to consideration of Rep Wormguy's Bill.

Quote
The Public Safety Bill of 2011

1. Any seller of firearms may refuse a sale to any buyer for any reason.
2. Any laws preventing the preceding clause from taking effect are hereby amended to allow it to do so.

I move that the Bill be considered, all in favour say 'aye'.... the 'aye's have it.

Can Rep Wormguy speak to this Bill - debate will last for 48 hours.


...also a procedural note for those proposing legislation - please refer to it as a Bill, not an Act, as we all know it's a Bill until the Governor signs it.

Thanks Smiley
8262  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Ogis for Mideast Assembly - January '11 on: January 19, 2011, 10:33:32 pm
Endorsed!
8263  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Polnut for Northeast Governor - community: strength: government that works on: January 19, 2011, 08:55:39 pm


Thank you very much Greenwich!! - I'm so sorry for being late, Assembly business in New York City held me up, thanks for staying out in the cold... I promise I'll be quick so you can get inside...

I've had the tremendous honour of travelling across Connecticut with our former 5-term Governor and your local son, Andrew.

I have been touched by your support in these early days of the campaign. But the days will get longer and competition more fierce - I will need your support then, more than ever. This race will down to the wire and in order to do what we need to do to fix the issues this region faces, I need your voices, I need your enthusiasm, and I need your passion, and I need your vote!!

I have put together a platform across three key themes...

Community - I have always believed that as a community, we rise and fall as one. I believe that we need to foster a greater sense of common purpose. At times of trouble, when jobs have disappeared and houses are foreclosed upon, the temptation to look inwards is overwhelming... but it is in those times when we need to join together.

Strength - By this I mean at the same time re-building our economic infrastructure, by investing in region-building physical infrastructure. This will not only give us assets for the future, but build up skills and create jobs. We also need incentives for employers to bring staff on and keep them.

It also requires strength to make cuts where possible, I have already announced that I will mandate wage-freezes on the top 50% of the public service for up to 18 months. I am today announcing that all Regional Agencies will have a 2% savings dividend. This will not apply to frontline service delivery agencies. This is not to be achieved through redundancy, but through reductions in overheads. This includes the Governor's office.

My opponent is going to throw the much used anachronism of "the liberal is spending". Absolutely, as Governor, one thing I can guarantee is that if you elect me you will not have an ideologue in the Governor's Mansion. I am pragmatic, and I know that sometimes you need to spend money to get things going again. I will not shy away from expenditure that works, and equally will not shy away from making tough decisions that help our economy.

Government that works: If there an ideological bone in my body it's my belief that Government can work for the people. We all hear the scream of limited government, or small government... never hear them shouting about 'effective government'

If the government needs to be big to work well... so be it, if it works better smaller... then I'm happy to see that too. We have wasted so much energy worrying about the size of Government without really wondering how well it works. I'm proud to be someone who thinks that the state can deliver high-quality services without having to worry about profit. I will never back away from supporting a system that supports people when they're in trouble, when they're sick, disabled or elderly.

Government that works for you, that works efficiently and delivers high-quality services.

This is what I stand for, if you want a pragmatic Governor, who has a record of working across the aisle to get things done, I truly hope you will entrust me with your vote.

I was an active Governor in the Mideast, I am active member of the Northeast Assembly, as well as it's speaker, and I am working hard every day to get the message out there that I will be an active and engaged governor, and I want to get you engaged again... I want to be a Governor you will be proud of.

Thank you all so much Smiley
8264  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Northeast Assembly Thread on: January 19, 2011, 03:57:26 am
Voting period has ended.

2-2 tie
8265  General Politics / Economics / Re: What is the value of your house? on: January 18, 2011, 11:54:47 pm
According to recent sales of identical apartments in the same building A$510,000 - 2 bedroom, 2 bath, separate laundry, two balconies, reverse cycle air-con.
8266  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who was the most authoritarian U.S. President? on: January 18, 2011, 11:25:21 pm
No I beg to differ. When the Southern States secedded they became sovereign countries in their own right. When they ratified the Confedrate Constuition they formed the Confederate States of America, an independent sovereign country. Lincoln and the Northern States committed an aggressive war. The War for Southern Independance was not all about slavery. It was an act of terrorism by an industrialized north that wanted high  tarriffs that would have suppressed Southern agrarian interests.




No... just no.

Also a sovereign state isn't one just because it says so...
8267  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Northeast Assembly Thread on: January 18, 2011, 10:52:47 pm
Nay
8268  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: pro-life activist Randall Terry to announce primary challenge against Obama on: January 18, 2011, 08:52:49 pm
Terry for President!

That says it all Tongue
8269  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: An update on the life of your in-house Reverend :) on: January 18, 2011, 08:50:22 pm
Okay, I'll spill a few beans here.  It pays $9.00 an hour.  My mother is still going to have to help me out and this is not meant to be the career job.  It's just a good filler until something better comes along.  Since I will work the evening shift, I will have all morning to look, interview, run errands as needed without messing up my shifts.  I'm paying $100 for Dish Network right now, so even with an early termination fee with Dish, it would still be cheaper than paying $1000 over the next 10 months when I could get it for free.  However, I'm not going to sign up for DirecTV until probably early March to make sure I make it out of training alive.  My contract with Dish doesn't expire until December 1, 2011, so another 10 months.

$100? You pay $100 to watch TV? I wouldn't pay $100 to watch TV if I made that amount in an hour.



...I pay $55 for cable...

Don't judge me... but I earn very good money, so I allow myself that treat Tongue
8270  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Oakvale/Snowguy for Atlasia: Campaign HQ on: January 18, 2011, 07:51:35 pm
Can anyone with a better grasp of internal UDL politics than I possibly explain to me what's going on in their executive council thread? Huh

I don't think I have a grasp of internal UDL politics.

Does anyone... really?
8271  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Sargent Shriver in critical condition on: January 18, 2011, 05:10:17 pm
RIP Sarge
8272  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Northeast Assembly Thread on: January 18, 2011, 12:56:28 am
The period for Debate has concluded.

We will now move for a vote on this Bill.

You will have 24 hours to vote 'aye' or 'nay'
8273  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Rick Perry doing polling outside of Texas? on: January 17, 2011, 10:49:11 pm
All I keep thinking is the Reagan fondling is back... ugh!!
8274  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: NSW, Australia - State Election 26 March 2011 on: January 17, 2011, 09:59:57 pm
I agree with Smid that the poll are more dire than the reality might be.

The ALP will lose, and deservedly so. I like Kennealy a lot, and think she would have been better saved for after their loss.

The equal problem is that the NSW Opposition is not running a real argument as to why they are better than the ALP... their whole argument is "ALP bad... we not ALP"

Which won't help...

8275  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Northeast Assembly Thread on: January 17, 2011, 09:26:50 pm
So... after reading this Bill again... yes reading it.

I note some pretty basic concerns.

1. It's a very simplistic approach to a complex problem.
2. The belief that the individual has the right to determine what happens to their body, does therefore equal that being able to sell organs for money is a natural progression... maybe that makes perfect sense to you, but not to me.
3. The safeguards appear there, but the language doesn't seem that strong there's a lot of 'may's in there and no clear contraventions with exception of court declared mental instability... which is a very high standard.

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