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8251  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: UDL Convention, December '10 (Discussing leadership elections, color, logo) on: December 05, 2010, 04:36:05 am


Motion :

1. The UDL shall run two candidates for December 2010 Senate elections.
2. These two candidates shall be determined through Instant Runoff Voting during a Party Primary.
3. Any candidate not taking part to the primary shall not receive any endorsement from the UDL. Any candidate taking part to the primary shall drop out of the race if they aren't among the two frontrunners.
4. The UDL Primary shall be held immediately after the passage of this motion. It shall last for 48 hours.


- My proposed changes in bold, if we're going to do this, way as well do it now.
8252  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Poll: Should Charles renounce rights to the throne so William becomes the heir? on: December 05, 2010, 02:19:45 am
The constitutional monarchy is a good system of government, I wouldn't vote for a Republic in Australia... don't see the point. It wouldn't change much.

Charles will have been waiting a BLOODY long time for the throne... happy to let him have it for 10 years.

Why do you all assume a short lifespan? NHS should solve all the problems, I mean, it's free healthcare!

No, just better health outcomes overall.

If HM lasts another 10 years - she'll be 94, making Charles 72... he'll probably live as long as his father... so around another 20 years on top of that - making William 58.

Give Charles have his time, and let Kate and William have as normal a life with their family as they can.
8253  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Northeast Assembly Thread on: December 05, 2010, 01:19:10 am
I'm torn, I think it's silly... but whether it's actually worth a nay...

...erring on the side of caution.... Nay
8254  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: UDL Convention, December '10 (Discussing leadership elections, color, logo) on: December 05, 2010, 01:02:52 am
I see Hashie's point here...I would personally prefer an internal party mechanism on running a single-candidate, or two at most - I can see lots of opportunities for tactical voting from opposition parties.

While it might be more 'democratic' to let as many run as possible, I'm not entirely sure of the long-term wisdom of it.

I understand, huggy-lovey, progressive party etc etc.... but in the early stages of a new party, I think there's nothing wrong with showing a unified front and instilling a bit of party discipline.

I'm happy to respect whatever the party wants on this, but I think this election is a good chance to get our national presence established and we can't take the risk of overloading the ballot and having less predictable voting patterns.

It's Kalwejt. Smiley

But, like I said, this is a way for us to maximize our vote, by appealing to all sections of Atlasia. I certainly wouldn't want us to run too few candidates.

Ok....

I don't see it as a way to maximise votes, the more candidates we have, our vote is spread thinner, it relies on everyone voting in a way that will benefit us, we need as many first and second preferences as we can. We can't guarantee random voting patterns feeding into other candidates.

I would prefer concentrating our vote on two candidates at most...

There are as many negatives here as positives in my view, but as I said, I'll stand by whatever the view of the party is, and I think we should consider putting this to a 24-hour vote.
8255  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: UDL Convention, December '10 (Discussing leadership elections, color, logo) on: December 05, 2010, 12:44:34 am
I see Hashie's point here...I would personally prefer an internal party mechanism on running a single-candidate, or two at most - I can see lots of opportunities for tactical voting from opposition parties.

While it might be more 'democratic' to let as many run as possible, I'm not entirely sure of the long-term wisdom of it.

I understand, huggy-lovey, progressive party etc etc.... but in the early stages of a new party, I think there's nothing wrong with showing a unified front and instilling a bit of party discipline.

I'm happy to respect whatever the party wants on this, but I think this election is a good chance to get our national presence established and we can't take the risk of overloading the ballot and having less predictable voting patterns.
8256  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Poll: Should Charles renounce rights to the throne so William becomes the heir? on: December 04, 2010, 07:38:30 pm
The constitutional monarchy is a good system of government, I wouldn't vote for a Republic in Australia... don't see the point. It wouldn't change much.

Charles will have been waiting a BLOODY long time for the throne... happy to let him have it for 10 years.
8257  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Political Opinions on: December 04, 2010, 07:30:02 pm
1. Should the government should prohibit gun ownership by private citizens?
Prohibit, no. Heavy restrict, yes.

2. Should Marijuana should be legalized?
Undecided

3. Should the death penalty be abolition?
Yes

4. Should the government control, regulate, and ban video games, including banning video game sales to teens?
No

5. Should we pull our troops out of Afghanistan?
Shortly

6. Should abortion be legal or illegal?
Legal

7. Should stem cell research be legal?
Yes

8. Should criminals who sexually assault and/or rape children under the age of 13 be killed, castrated, chemically castrated, or simply imprisoned and registered as a sex offender?
Imprisoned, registered sex offender

9. Should the police get money directly from tickets or should ticket money be put in with other government spending?
Not sure

10. Should the police have a monthly/weekly quota of tickets that they must meet?
No

11. Should we stop Iran's nuclear weapons program?
It's tricky - I'm undecided

12. Should we liberate North Korea and install a peaceful democratic government?
No

13. Should the government give money to failing businesses in order to keep them from going bankrupt?
I have a problem with it - not entirely sure of the value of the alternative

14. Should the government control the economy (command economy), should the government never intervene in the economy (laissez-faire), or should the government intervene in the economy only when it is necessary (mixed economy)?
A mixed economy

15. Should lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgendered individuals be given equal rights as straight individuals?
Yes

16. Should we pull our forces out of Iraq?
Yes

17. Should gay marriage be legalized?
Yes

18. Should we recognize the independent nation of Kosovo?
OK

19. Should we recognize the independent nation of Azerbaijan?
OK

20. Should we recognize the independent nation of Jonathanland?
No

21. Should we recognize the independent nation of South Ossetia?
No

22. Should Puerto Rico become a US state, become and independent country, or remain a US territory?
Leave to the PR people

23. Should Guam become a US state, become and independent country, or remain a US territory?
Territory

24. Should American Samoa become a US state, become and independent country, or remain a US territory?
Territory

25. Should the US Virgin Islands become a US state, become and independent country, or remain a US territory?
Territory

26. Should the US Minor Outlying Islands become US states, become and independent countries, or remain US territories?
Not sure

27. Should we make Iraq a US state?
No

28. Should we make Afghanistan a US state?
No

29. Do you think WikiLeaks should get shutdown?
No

30. Should the government minimize it's military spending?
Yes

31. Should the government make stronger efforts to stop illegal immigration, especially from Mexico?
Depends

32. Should citizens of the District of Columbia be granted full voting rights?
Yes

33. Should New York City become it's own state, an independent country, or remain part of New York?
Remain part of NY

34. Should the United States create a North American Union with Canada? If so should we allow Mexico to join?
Canada wouldn't want to, lol


35. Should the government censor books, movies, and other entertainment mediums?
No

36. Should it be made illegal to deny that the Holocaust happened or to claim that the government is responsible for the 9/11 terrorist attacks?
No

37. Should the government offer free broadband internet to all citizens, like Finland does?
Yes, but it needs to be completely costed

38. Should the government increase it's power to enforce internet laws and put a stop to internet crimes?
Depends what you mean by internet crime

39. Should the government shutdown 4chan, just /b/, or neither?
No

40. Should 13 year olds be given universal suffrage?
No

41. Should the drinking age be lowered to atleast 18?
Yes, to 18, no younge

42. Should church and state remain separate?
Yes

43. Should we allow a mosque to be built next to Ground Zero?
Yes

44. Should the government offer free healthcare?
Universal health care guarantee

45. Should the government offer free college/university education?
Not sure about free

46. Should tobacco be made illegal?
No, but made very expensive

47. Should alcohol be made illegal again?
No

48. Should the government keep secrets from and lie to it's citizens?
Sometimes it's necessary

49. Should classified and top secret documents be declassified?
No

50. Should the government take greater steps to promote political awareness among teens, so they know how to make better informed political decisions?
Yes

51. Should public schools bring back the ability to beat their students and force them to wear school uniforms?
Beating, no - uniforms, yes (bit silly to combine the two)

52. Should we allow weapons in space?
No

53. Should the United States join the International Criminal Court?
Yes

54. Should the age of consent be lowered to 13?
No

55. Should Julian Assange be tried in court for sexually assaulting (and raping) women and for releasing top secret government and military documents to the public?
They're two distinctly different things.

56. Should NASA work harder to accomplish goals such as making first contact, building space ships, and colonizing other planets?
Yes

57. Should NASA set-up a colony on Mars using their proposed one-way trip system?
Yes

58. Should nuclear weapons be banned globally?
Yes

59. Should nuclear power be actively used in the United States?
As a medium term option

60. Should teenagers (from 13 to 19) be given the same rights and privileges as adults?
No

61. Should we allow private military contractors to continue to exist?
No

62. Should the government and military work to help stop and prevent genocides, civil wars, and other atrocities happening around the world, such as in Africa?
We should place strong conditions on such support

63. Should research into cloning be conducted?
With a  LOT of restrictions.

64. Should we close the Guantanamo Bay prison?
Yes

65. Should Guantanamo Bay become a US state?
Give them back to Cuba in exchange for some concessions

66. Should the United States become imperialist again, but this time we make the places we conquer become permanent US states?
No

67. Should the world unite under a democratic world government that is just like the United States, but governs the entire world?
Can't fathom such a think working...
8258  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Candidate Declaration Thread on: December 03, 2010, 10:47:34 pm
I shall be accepting write-in votes for the Northeast assembly special election.

Gah... I missed this.
8259  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is comparing the Altas Moderators to Nazi Germany hyperbole? on: December 03, 2010, 10:46:27 pm
There are rules of decent conduct and Libertas broke them time, and time again - he was banned for that, and that alone.

The default position whether left, right or wherever the hell Libertas and his ilk consider themselves to reside... is to scream 'Hitler' or 'Nazi' whenever they get offended by something.

It's total hyperbole, Libertas showed consistent disrespect for the rules of decent political discourse - banning him after a long-run is not Nazism - it's the rules, grow up.
8260  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Attention whoring: yet another "I'm leaving the forum" thread on: December 03, 2010, 10:39:27 pm
You're a valuable member to the forum, Vepres. While I don't agree with everything you stated, I certainly agree with several key points. A problem on this forum is that there is a lack of respect for the opposing side, something I would like to be changed. Sad

The problem is a) there is not enough respect for opposing views, for either side and b) the extremes tend to dominate here, so their time for opposing views tends to be met with screams rather than vibrant discussions.

8261  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Northeast Assembly Special Election: December 3, 2010 on: December 03, 2010, 06:31:01 pm

Official Ballot of the Northeast


[2] RowanBrandon
[3] N!K (Psychic Octopus)
[1] Robespierre's Jaw (Senator Conor Flynn)
[4] redcommander
[] Write In: ______________________
8262  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Foreign Policy Caucus on: December 03, 2010, 07:20:36 am
Naturally, I'm in.
8263  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Teabaggers are so in touch with the public! on: December 03, 2010, 01:01:40 am
Fair enough - I think Kathleen Kennedy-Townsend's community service component of HS graduation was a good thing... a few hours here and there helping others is hardly fascism (especially since they chose how they did it). Then go off to college and think 'hey, helping others is a good thing' or 'hey... it's MY time, I can return to being a selfish prick now'

I have volunteered for years, it's a great thing to do... but you really shouldn't be forced-forced.

8264  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: World Cup 2018 and 2022: Site Selection on: December 03, 2010, 12:56:07 am
The moment I heard about the 'demountable' stadia being given to developing countries... this was over.
8265  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: I got fired on: December 03, 2010, 12:47:24 am
Time-sheet?

I'd laugh in their face if they tried a stunt like that on me...

Yeah... if my employer ever fires me, I won't be taking it very well.  It takes a LOT to get fired from there (they just recently fired a guy for his 22nd tardy).  I've never had a no call/no show, and I've called off once my entire 5 years there (my brakes died while I was out of town).

Where do you work, civil service?

Not exactly, but sector, but I'm pretty high up the chain, there's quite a bit of trust 'if we pay you xxxx then it's expected that' I'll do what needs to be done
8266  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Northeast Assembly Thread on: December 03, 2010, 12:39:34 am
Actually we should rename the Northeast the "Land of the Kennedys."

The Governor will be named John F. Kennedy
The Lt. Governor will be named Robert F. Kennedy
The CJO will be named Edward M. Kennedy
Representatives will be referred to as "[Insert user name here] Kennedy"
The Northeast Senator shall be named Joe Kennedy Jr.
The Speaker of the Northeast Assembly (or whatever position Dallasfan65 holds in the future) shall be named Master of the Kennedys. His motto shall be: One Kennedy to rule them all, One Kennedy to find them, One Kennedy to bring them all and in the darkness bind them."





Just kidding


Maybe all the lefties could be Kennedy, and all the righties Cabot Lodge.

yes, we all knew who ended up winning that battle Tongue
8267  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Office of NE Representative Polnut on: December 03, 2010, 12:36:23 am
Changes to my regional Town Hall meeting schedule.
8268  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: I got fired on: December 02, 2010, 11:43:55 pm
Time-sheet?

I'd laugh in their face if they tried a stunt like that on me...
8269  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Civil unions for Illinois on: December 02, 2010, 11:42:05 pm
With all possible respect... give me a f**king break.
8270  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Northeast Assembly Thread on: December 02, 2010, 08:22:22 pm
What the hell does Hurr Durr mean?

It's my understanding that Hurr Durr is a retort or phrase Morgan likes to use. (He can probably clarify this,)

I do acknowledge that making this part of our motto is a bit of tomfoolery, but tomfoolery is not unprecedented in Atlasia. The Midwest and Pacific do this, and even the Southeast is now known as "The Imperial Dominion of the South."

I would be opposed to a giant makeover like that, but this, in my opinion, is harmless.

I think i'll abstain on this one.
8271  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Was Richard Nixon a 'Moderate Hero'? on: December 02, 2010, 08:20:54 pm
Nixon was a fascist creep.

I'd enjoy hearing how.

He was certainly a creep and a terrible person and a terrible President and I can't understand how some of you red avatars like him.

It's a comparative thing - who did more damage to the country Bush II or Nixon?
8272  Election Archive / 2012 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: massachussets senate: with high turnout, brown in danger on: December 02, 2010, 08:15:19 pm
They over-sampled white voters by about 7%
8273  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: I got fired on: December 02, 2010, 08:10:16 pm
Who are these arseholes?
8274  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Office of NE Representative Polnut on: December 02, 2010, 08:03:10 pm
TRANSCRIPT

Regional Capitol
New York City

Northeast Rep. Polnut (UDL - MA)

The Yale Law School Alumni Dinner - New Haven, CT
Thursday - 2 December 2010


Thank you Dean for that welcome,

You appear to have decided to hold this dinner at a very good time for press coverage.

You will be aware of the change that occurred in the progressive side of our national politics yesterday. I like many progressive politicians and officials joined the new Union of Democratic Left.

Many might be surprised by this move, especially those of you who are supportive of the JCP. Let again repeat what has now been said by many of my party colleagues. When we are in competition with the JCP it is done with the best possible spirit, when we are not we consider the JCP to be our partners. While those of us who left the JCP for the UDL had a multitude of reasons, the appreciation to the leaders and ordinary members of the JCP remains deeply intact and entrenched in this new party.

Last week, we saw one of the flagrant attacks on the rule of law, and the foundations of liberal democracy that I have ever seen in my time in Atlasia.

The Nullification Resolution presented to the Assembly, passed by it, and sadly signed by the Governor is a gutting of the authority of the judiciary. What people may say about me, the one thing I can say in return is that I consider the most vital foundation to our democracy to be the clear separation of authority and responsibility across three branches of Government.

Although done in the name of freedom, and wrapped in a flag and a POP pamphlet, this did nothing but endanger the freedom of ordinary men and women from a simple majority in the Assembly who might have no just cause to consider it unconstitutional besides their ideological dislike for it.

Even though I am a legislator, and I have a legal background it is not, repeat not our role as legislators to determine the constitutionality of laws. There are judicial avenues in the event that legislation appears to counter the constitution.

So rather than respecting our institutions, based upon a constitution passed not very long ago indeed. They are attempting, almost through stealth to turn this region into an extreme libertarian bastion.

When the time comes, I don't care who you vote for, we need a strong turnout at the Assembly elections. Are the views of fear and paranoia toward the state, voting down virtually everything really representing the views of the citizens of this region.

I personally, have no dislike for any of my Assembly colleagues, which might come as a surprise.  But we just clearly have radically different world views. I have tried my best to work with those who were prepared to genuinely negotiate. People may wonder why I keep bothering to put up Bills... because I know, I have an important role to play. I need to show people that this region is not lost, there are plenty of people out there who are not happy with the current situation.

I look forward to what I can do for the region, but also look forward to seeing what all of you will be doing for the region.

Thanks.
8275  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Candidate Declaration Thread on: December 02, 2010, 07:38:07 pm
I'm running for At-large in December.

Last election, I gave Andrew my high preference, and you can count on this as well, pal. Despite all differences, you were and you can be a again very positive force in the Senate Smiley

Endorsed.

Cheesy

I will certainly consider a decent preference for you Smiley
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