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8251  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Candidate Declaration Thread on: December 08, 2010, 06:06:41 pm
I will be running for re-election for the Northeast Assembly.
8252  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Office of NE Representative Polnut on: December 08, 2010, 06:04:46 pm
Fair point..
8253  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Office of NE Representative Polnut on: December 08, 2010, 05:05:41 pm
Why is everyone in my office Tongue
8254  Election Archive / 2012 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: MN-PPP: Obama leads all Republicans by at least 5 points on: December 08, 2010, 04:43:13 pm
Ha! Another Palin-fail
8255  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: UDL Convention, December '10 (Confirmation votes on color, logo) on: December 08, 2010, 04:35:01 am
I really don't like the fist rose thing... I REALLY like whatever that symbol is that Antonio has in his campaign banner... I prefer something that's more of a representation of the flower, rather than ... look, here's a flower...

Plus... I think the red-rose is far too closely attached to the labor/socialist parties... not everyone in this party affiliates themselves with the traditional labor movement... I like the idea of keeping ... an homage... but also showing a broader range.

PS - I'm changing my vote on the logo.
8256  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: UDL Convention, December '10 (Confirmation votes on color, logo) on: December 08, 2010, 03:22:49 am


1. Do you approve of the UDL using the following symbol as it's official logo?



[ ] Yes
[ x ] No

2. Do you approve of the UDL using the color Orange-Red as it's official color?

[ x ] Yes
[ ] No
8257  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: UDL Convention, December '10 (Discussing leadership elections, color, logo) on: December 08, 2010, 02:55:04 am
The wonderful Quebecois intellect of the party, everyone. Tongue

Alright, thanks to Max, we actually know the council now. (Voting is now over.)

Kalwejt,
HappyWarrior,
Sewer Socialist,
Hashemite,
Al.

Due to Xahar's tiebreaking vote, Dr. Cynic is now President of the UDL.

The council should now meet and elect the Party chairman. I'll crate a new thread for them to do their work there.



Also, I'm really really sorry to Polnut. He deserves a position in this party, as he's been one of the most vocal voices moving us along and was with us in the beginning hours. I would implore the new Council to elect Polnut to be chairman of the party.

Thanks, while I'd be happy to serve in whatever way I'm wanted, I'm happy to respect whatever the newly elected council decides.
8258  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: An update on the life of your in-house Reverend :) on: December 08, 2010, 12:34:23 am
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I don't have any other problems besides jumping into things a little too fast.

You have a severe weight problem, Bushie, that will kill you, and kill you young, and in the meantime, is truncating your energy to meet life, and you health, and yes, your job prospects. Employers don't want to hire fats. That is just taking on an unnecessary risk. One of my first cousins who was also a lawyer, and did in fact work and was self supporting, and with whom I was quite close, looked like you. He died a rather hideous death at about 43 years of age.

But it never ceases to amaze me, just how many of our species do such self destructive things. Why?

Ok yeah, I do have a weight problem, but I was talking more mental than physical.

However, I have lost 5 pounds.  It may be water weight, but 5 pounds is 5 pounds.  A big downfall for me is I live on the street with all types of fast food joints you can think of.  I'm within 3 miles of just about every fast food chain imaginable, plus a IHOP, Little Caesars, and a lot of sit-down restaurants.  Just about all of them have had my business on numerous occasions.

I am determined, though, to keep losing weight.  I know what I need to do.  Right now I am 266 lbs, my goal is to be down closer to 200 by next Thanksgiving.  This gives me 11 months to accomplish that goal.  However, I am not going to focus on a long term goal as that will only discourage me.  Instead, I have a goal of losing another 6 pounds by Christmas.  Then, once I reach that 260 mark, I would like to be down to 250 by February 1 and so on.

I guess if there is any mental issue I deal with it would not really be depression, but it would be easy discouragement.  I get discouraged so easily it makes me sick and it does hamper my ability to be rational.  I'm trying to work through that, but that's the only real issue I have.  Part of that, or a good part of that, is caused by my weight.  When I lose weight, I'm sure I'll be a happier individual and able to think things through a lot clearer.

As someone who was once nearly 240lbs - now around 180, it's tough.

But, losing weight will not make you happier or think more clearly. What I did was manage the underlying reasons why I felt compelled to overeat or eat at unusual times. You'd be amazed what a serious psychological spring-clean can do when you're trying to lose weight.

Suddenly all of those dangerous compulsive activities seem exactly that... why on earth was I eating that? then etc etc...

That's the reason why I've pretty much maintained a 10lb range for nearly 8 years...
8259  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: An update on the life of your in-house Reverend :) on: December 08, 2010, 12:17:29 am
Phil, read Bush's post two posts before this one.

You're heavily (and I mean heavily) implying that Bushie has psychological problems, and although you've never actually stated exactly what you believe them to be (and I understand that this is intended as concern for his sake), in any case he denies having any deeper problems as you suggest.

If I was being bullied on the internet, and somebody was defending me against the attacks by implying that I'm some kind of autistic retard or whatever you're getting at, I'd probably find that more offensive than any of the actual attacks themselves.

Just saying.

Yes, I see clear intimations of autism/aspergers in the posts.
8260  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Geraldine Ferraro in 1988 on: December 07, 2010, 11:30:19 pm
Why didn't Geraldine Ferraro run for the democratic presidential nomination in 1988? History shows some former VP candidates run whether successful or not.

A VP candidate connected to a virtual electoral wipeout?
8261  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What are you doing New Year's Eve? on: December 07, 2010, 11:27:11 pm
My traditional venue...

A house at Rose Bay on Sydney Harbour Cheesy
8262  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Northeast Assembly Thread on: December 07, 2010, 11:23:33 pm
Oh... yay!
8263  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Political Quiz List. Are you a Quiz Whiz? on: December 07, 2010, 10:24:30 pm
   My #1 is:   Pacific Coast / Hawaii     
   My #2 is:   NYC / New England     
   My #3 is:   Mid Atlantic       
   My #4 is:   Upper Mid-west         
   My #5 is:   Rust Belt     
   My #6 is:   Upstate New York     
   My #7 is:   Rocky Mountain / Alaska     
   My #8 is:   South Atlantic     
   My #9 is:   Border States: Virginia, Tennessee & Kentucky     
   My #10 is: Desert Southwest     
   My #11 is: Deep South         
   My #12 is: Peripheral South     
   My #13 is: Texas     
8264  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: UDL Convention, December '10 (Discussing leadership elections, color, logo) on: December 07, 2010, 10:17:34 pm
Um... how long have we been voting on exec council?... seems like a while...
8265  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Oh Snap!!! Here we go again :P on: December 07, 2010, 10:05:51 pm
Ugh...
8266  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Northeast Assembly Thread on: December 07, 2010, 09:50:35 pm
I would like to put forward a motion suspending Assembly activities between December 23 and January 3, taking the holiday season into account.
8267  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: UDL Convention, December '10 (Discussing leadership elections, color, logo) on: December 07, 2010, 08:01:32 pm
I know your party is running plenty of candidates, but I would like to ask for whatever support and preferences you guys are willing to give. I have always and will always fight for the progressive, reformist agenda that this party supports. I have in the past worked with many if not most of you in Atlasia, both as fellow members of the JCP and in other capacities. Hopefully the Atlasian left can remain united, if not in party registration, at least in spirit and common aims and goals. Thanks.

I fully support you, and you will have a strong preferences from me.
8268  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Question for Democrats on: December 07, 2010, 07:48:41 pm
Heeeeelllll no.

You primary him, Obama will probably win... and probably lose the general... so hello GOP President... the degree to which Dems are getting skittish when his numbers ARE NOT THAT BAD, is getting kind of ridiculous.
8269  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: The tax cuts deal on: December 07, 2010, 07:37:10 pm
Every sane economist said extending the tax cuts at all was a risky venture, let alone extending those above $250k, which I saw referred to this morning as 'beyond stupid'.

This isn't based on actual analysis... just political BS to satisfy the TP whackjobs, and that set that believe cancer could be cured by tax cuts.

If you saw someone in your family, who was haemorraging money.. obviously the first thing people in this position would be suggesting is cutting their income? right?

- the smarter option would have been for Obama to offer to make the below $250k tax cuts expire in... 2020 or something like that (or even permanent) - and not extend the $250k+ bracket ... which most people, according to polls, agree with.

8270  Election Archive / 2012 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: MA-PPP: Romney 47% Palin 12% Gingrich 11% Huckabee 10% Pawlenty 4% Paul 3% on: December 07, 2010, 07:24:27 pm
If I were a liberal, I would be afraid of (in order of fear generated):

Marco Rubio
Chris Christie
Scott Brown
Bobby Jindal
John Thune
Mitch Daniels

I would not be afraid of the Republican version of John Kerry.

That's the only one that comes close to scaring me, with honourable mentions for those in italics.
8271  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Elizabeth Edwards on: December 07, 2010, 05:56:21 pm
They were separated, but not divorced. He was there with the children when she died.
8272  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Elzabeth Edwards's cancer has spread to liver on: December 07, 2010, 05:16:22 pm
It's truly sad.

She was a strong, intelligent woman - who deserved a much longer life, with a far better partner.

RIP Elizabeth.



I find the comments about HER view of faith to be completely out of line, it's frightening to YOU.
8273  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Elzabeth Edwards's cancer has spread to liver on: December 07, 2010, 06:21:22 am
A really great person, and a champion for so many.

I wish her the best.
8274  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bush job approval rating higher than Obama's (or tied) on: December 07, 2010, 02:48:02 am
Oh for the love of God....

People place much MUCH lighter weight on historic job approvals... I mean Kennedy on 85%? I'm a huge fan of JFK... but I don't believe that 85% people approve of his performance.... how many were alive when he was president?

The two shouldn't be compared. ...and I'd be saying that if Obama were at 65%... because I'm not an irrational hack looking for justification Tongue
8275  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: If Clinton ran... on: December 07, 2010, 12:10:43 am
I unfortunately doubt she will primary Obama. I agree with the GPorter scenarios.
If Obama decides he does not want a second term and pulls an LBJ Ala 1968 then she could run without the inner party drama. Unlikely considering the size of Obama's ego and warchest. However if he steps aside she could run in 2012. I personally think the clock has already run out on this possible scenario, but we shall see.

I think she runs in 2016 and is now denying she wants it to kill speculation such as this thread. However, that speculation will remain present for the next two election cycles in my opinion. You don't come as close to it as she did and then have the speculation die. Particularly if your last name is Clinton.


Also, because he has every right to run again, and I think he's in a decent position. If Hillary were running she'd be tarred as a part the Obama administration, the economy would still be messed up.

The only reasonable option is waiting until 2016...
So was Jimmy Carter in 1978 we all know how well his decision to run for a second term went. Dont count your egg just yet. I would hate to see his ego take the party down.  Hillary wont primary him out of party loyalty but he should really ask himself if he is electable come 2012 and if he is not then he needs to step aside. The economy certaintly has not improved in these two years.

Carter may have won in 1980 were it not for Kennedy.

Look at the numbers, forget Carter, look at Clinton and Reagan, both Presidents whose party copped a hiding in the mid-terms after big election wins, with roughly equivalent approval ratings. Obama's re-election relies on a) the economy rebounding... b) who he's up against.

2008 was likely Clinton's last real roll of the dice.

If she primaries Obama - chances are Obama would win, and he'd be fatally wounded. Or if she won, she'd have a LOT of party unity to build, which'll make the post-Democratic primary re-union look like an Oprah special, and since she was part of his administration she'd be tarred with it anyway - which is exactly same if Obama decides not to run again.

If the Democrats lose in 2012, then she'd be running against an incumbent in 2016... which is much harder.

Her only reasonable option if she wanted to run again, is HOPE Obama wins in '12 and run in an open field in 2016.
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