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8251  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The White House - Polnut Administration on: August 17, 2011, 09:04:18 pm

PRESS RELEASE


The President is currently in the negotiations with Senators over The End to Imperialism Bill. He firmly hopes that a compromise will be reached soon.
8252  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: End to Imperialism Act (Debating) on: August 17, 2011, 08:49:39 pm
To my mind immediate withdrawal form Libya is crucial so we do not get dragged into another long occupation. For me, that's non-negotiable. Iraq and Afghanistan on the other hand, we have already made such an impact and entangled in relationships there, I recognize leaving is a bit more tricky. Iraq is mostly stabilized though so I think we can leave there very soon as well. At this point, I don't see the need for retaining combat troops in Iraq any more than a couple months.
Yes, Afghanistan is the tricky one, though even there it seems like our combat troops have done all they can. I understand the need for an orderly withdrawal and transfer of power, but I don't understand exactly what it is to be accomplished by staying in Afghanistan through next spring. Is there something particular about June?

Really behind all this timetable talk is a question of strategy. If we had a credible strategy for winning the peace, I'd consider allowing our armed service heroes to stay a bit longer to achieve it. But it seems more and more that our best strategy is not going to be mainly a military one. If there's something we can accomplish there in the next year with our combat troops that we haven't already, I'm not sure what it is.



Those are some constructive issues, thank you.

Firstly, we are now operating in Libya as a peacekeeping mission - not combat. I have said many times that our exit from Libya will be the fastest, because we are not entrenched nor is stability or fundamental security dependent on us.

Secondly, Iraq. I understand that the general view is that all is going well and we should just be able to walk out with little consequence. However, there are pockets where our troops are a significant part of the security structure. Part of the withdrawal - especially post-November will be to increase the training for those replacing the Atlasian security forces. Those training will still require security and support. I feel very strongly, that in this theatre we do owe the Iraqi people some stability.

Thirdly, Afghanistan. I thank you for acknowledging that this is a difficult situation. The security situation is not stable, especially with the announcement that President Karzai will not be seeking a third term. We are now at the end of the fighting season, which will give Commanders the ability to take stock of where we are, and the formal withdrawal and handover strategy. Considering our position in the security structure of entire provinces of Afghanistan - we do need to fast-track the recruitment and training of new soldiers for the Afghan Army - the Autumn and Winter period is the peak time for training and recruitment - it's as simple as that. And until we have done that job, it will be necessary for troops to be on the ground.

In relation to your question about the strategy - I believe I've outlined our reasoning - and I don't want to sound glib here, but I believe considering that we now have a policy of withdrawal, the goal to winning the peace is to leave those nations prepared to win their own peace and not to create a de-stabilisation by our exit.

Again, we could go in circles in this - I am currently in a period of final negotiations - while I hope something constructive will come out of it... I'm not expecting it and I think this situation is not helping us at all - and Senate needs to vote as soon as is practicable so our forces have some idea of what they'll be doing.
8253  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Is it bigoted to dislike somebody because of their... on: August 17, 2011, 08:18:42 pm

I'll agree with this, also I have no problems with people of faith... but if that faith turns them into an arse... then I will feel completely free to dislike them Smiley
8254  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: End to Imperialism Act (Debating) on: August 17, 2011, 07:51:38 pm
I want to stress that this is NOT personal, this is a policy difference - although I do reject the suggestions that my decision is being manipulated by arms manufacturers et al.

I know that there are Senators for whom my withdrawal plan will never be swift enough, I really have made efforts to do the right thing across the board. It's a very difficult balance to strike, and those considerations include the political situation on the ground... whether or not I agree with the War, I do believe in responsible government, so I believe we do have a responsibility to not leave a vacuum in our wake.

I don't like War, I consider it one of the greatest evils we can inflict on one another, but sometimes it is a necessary evil - but this is not a debate about the pros and cons of war... it's about how and when we get our troops out.

I came into office with a promise to have a plan in train to get all of our troops out, I have stretched our Commands to get the earliest date possible for all three theatres. I presented, what I believe is a very fair compromise position, I went into discussions in good faith, and I was prepared to work with the Senate, but I'm not sure those same considerations have been reciprocated.  

Those dates were not picked arbitrarily, they are carefully considered to account for all reasonable eventualities.

I think we are doing ourselves more damage by shouting over what in essence are details - our aims are the same, but the methods by which we do are slightly different.

Again, I think there needs to be a final vote on this and just let what will be, be.
8255  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Survey Atlasia: August Presidential Approval Rating on: August 17, 2011, 07:02:50 pm
Honestly... I was expecting my approvals to drop...
8256  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Comprehensive Social Security Reform Act (Who knows!) on: August 17, 2011, 06:34:23 pm
I still don't see any incentives to re-train or go back to work?
What do you suggest?

I suggested small grants or low-interest loans for people to re-train.
8257  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Comprehensive Social Security Reform Act (Who knows!) on: August 17, 2011, 06:49:59 am
I still don't see any incentives to re-train or go back to work?
8258  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Are you a member of a fraternity? on: August 17, 2011, 03:22:24 am
I joined one - Delta Sigma Phi... I certainly had a different view of them when than when I arrived.
8259  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The White House - Polnut Administration on: August 16, 2011, 10:27:54 pm
8260  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The White House - Polnut Administration on: August 16, 2011, 09:43:45 pm
Mr. President, do you have any comments on the Game Reform Committee's Interim Report, or any suggestions for the committee to take into consideration before the final report?

Firstly, I want to thank the Committee members for their efforts so far.

I will be reading over the report and will have some comments shortly.
8261  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The White House - Polnut Administration on: August 16, 2011, 08:22:02 pm

PRESS RELEASE


The President will be visiting parts of the Mideast next week, the tour will take in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and Wisconsin.

The schedule will be released later this week.
8262  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: JCP Convention, August 2011 on: August 16, 2011, 06:48:20 pm
[ 1 ] Homelycooking
[ 2 ] Duke
[ 3 ] Jbrase
8263  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: How likely is this map? on: August 16, 2011, 12:46:10 am
If Bachmann or Paul are the nominees

More like if Mitt is the nominee. Paul would beat Obama

8264  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What Should The Age of Consent Be? on: August 16, 2011, 12:38:09 am
I think 16 is fine... but if both are over 14 but under 16 - then that should fly as well.
8265  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What Should The Age of Consent Be? on: August 16, 2011, 12:36:04 am
I think 16 is fine... but if both are over 14 but under 16 - then that should fly as well.
8266  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Empowering Regions in Elections Amendment (Debating) on: August 16, 2011, 12:24:48 am
Thinking on it, I do want to have an open-mind on this - but the reasons need to go beyond the 'regional rights' argument... which I think is a bit of a crock..
8267  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Survey Atlasia: August Presidential Approval Rating on: August 15, 2011, 11:49:36 pm
Approve, although he can be a bit of a Negative Nancy at times.  Smiley

I call it cautious... Tongue
8268  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Empowering Regions in Elections Amendment (Debating) on: August 15, 2011, 11:29:03 pm
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Empowering Regions in Elections Amendment

1. A region's governing body shall have the authority to determine procedure for administration of voting booths and certification of election results for their own Class A Senate elections.

2. A region's governing body may determine the means of election to Class A Senate election.

3. To ensure fairness in changes in means of election, any alternative system of voting chosen by the region's governing body for Class A Senate elections must remain democratic and may not disqualify any candidate meeting the qualifications set in the Constitution.

4. If a region fails to open a vote for their Senator within 1 day of when polls must open, a Federal Officer of the Executive Branch shall open the vote on behalf of the region.

Sponsor: Jbrase

Honestly, I don't see a safeguard - it's all platitudes

If this were to go ahead - a very strict set of standards need to be listed and met.
8269  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Empowering Regions in Elections Amendment (Debating) on: August 15, 2011, 09:13:51 pm
The only opposition I have is that I don't think it's fair to have the SoFE have to count 5 different voting methods... I'm not sure how many contested counts you've been around for, and how nasty they can be... but this is my objection to it.... it has nothing to do with Regional rights.

If there can be basic universal standards applied, I might be able to see beyond the potential problems. 
8270  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Is Obama Finished? on: August 15, 2011, 07:48:26 pm
Not by a long-shot.

Especially if the GOP shoots one of the most spectacular own-goals in US political history...
8271  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: End to Imperialism Act (Debating) on: August 15, 2011, 07:35:33 pm
Unfortunately Senator, you've yet again misjudged this Administration's priorities.

On Libya, I had the same general thoughts as you. It was not our job to fight their war for them, a point I made during the speech in which I first brought up a withdrawal from all of these conflicts, again, before this Bill appeared. We had a small contingent who were not part of the command structure. I ordered the combat troops to withdraw and to serve only as a peacekeeping force in the Benghazi itself. Our force is small in number, and it will be the first to be fully withdrawn, because it can be easily withdrawn.

On Iraq, yet again, the point is missed, but we will have almost 70% of our troops out by November, with a slow trickle as training is increased and command handed over to the Iraqi forces until January - this is not a slow withdrawal - this is a very rapid withdrawal.

On Afghanistan, this is the one over which we seem to have the greatest disagreement. But it is the one where the situation is the most precarious, so yes, we do have to take longer to extricate ourselves - I won't apologise for doing what I feel is the right thing to do.

I do understand the Senator's points, I have been prepared to give a lot more ground than my advisers have wanted me to, but because I hoped that the Senate was interested in a constructive dialogue - I pushed the military to give me the most swift but militarily responsible dates for exits.

The problem now is that some Senators are just repeating the same points over and over about how 10years in Afghanistan is too long - I completely agree, which is why I highlighted withdrawal in my first foreign policy speech as president  - which is why I have been prepared to work with the Senate to get this done... but get it done properly. Which is why I have proposed a time line for both withdrawal AND for the cessation of funding.

I want our troops out, but I don't want to create situation that could necessitate them being sent back at some point in the future.


In that end, I think the Senate should just vote on it let what will be, be.
8272  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The White House - Polnut Administration on: August 15, 2011, 07:20:23 am

PRESS RELEASE


The White House is announcing that the Atlasian Government will be contributing specific aid to deal with the Somalian famine.

The aid package will consist of food, transport, staff and military escorts - the package will cost $38million. The first shipment will be on the ground tomorrow.

The Department of External Affairs will announce any further specific details on this aid mission.
8273  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: End to Imperialism Act (Debating) on: August 15, 2011, 03:21:41 am
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Libya: I have already scaled back our involvement, and the further draw-down will be logistically the easiest - which is why we can withdraw here with the most speed.

Iraq: the process of exchanging the authority to the Iraq forces is proceeding well - there remains some pockets which will remain in coalition hands. 31 January is the earliest we can withdraw without causing any destabilisation.

Afghanistan: this is a messy military and political situation. Our transfer to local forces will take longer here, this is a cold hard reality that I really hope the Senate will appreciate.

Sadly, you've completely misjudged my intentions.

I had a timetable in place before the Senator's Bill was before the Senate - I tried to negotiate with the Sponsor to find a compromise position, unfortunately the Senator has not made the results of those negotiations part of these discussions.

I'm not interested in taking risks with our troops, the time lines I have offered are based on the situations in each of the theatres and military advice.

You are entitled to vote to override my veto should I have to use it.
8274  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The homelycooking Campaign Battle-Bus/Mobile Office on: August 15, 2011, 01:44:29 am
You will be a HUGE loss to the NE Assembly - but best of luck Smiley
8275  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Texan-Bush41...Texan-Bush43...Texan-Perry45...Texan-jmfcst46?! on: August 15, 2011, 12:33:30 am
The only good thing your state gave us was World Class Championship Wrestling with the Von Erichs and that hasn't been around in more than 20 years. Tongue

we also gave you Dr. Pepper

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aorSzrnWBT8

Gross. Dr. Pepper is awful

Exactly, chew on a cherry starburst with a mouthful of coke.
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