Little Rock, Arkansas.

Dublin, Ireland

If somehow we could manage to make 2008 a repeat of the presidential elections of 1796 and 1800 (I don't know, a time machine, magic dust, a gap in the space-time continium, whichever way you want). And in this method both men are the same age as they were in 1800 (so no, OMG THAY BEE REEL OLD LOL!!!11!! jokes) .

Then Adams joins the republicans and gains the nomination for president. Jefferson joins the Democrats and does so likewise. Both men run similiar ideas to what they ran in 1800 except modified slightly for the modern age. (no slavery, etc). Some of the issues of the campaign being the PATRIOT Act, the War on Iraq and Corporate welfare. Of which Adams in the whole mainly supports, while Jefferson somewhat opposes.

Who would win? Maps. (Can some mod add a poll? Please )

...Okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkay, Is this good or bad?

One of the best news stories of the election was that George "Macacalypse" Allen lost his job.

So, hardly a Freedom Fighter then.

Not too sure. Donegal maybe. Somewhere Out west where Populism sells.

is he going to run?

i hope he doesnt.  i know he has 0 shot of winning.  but guys like him, no matter how much of a minor candidate they are, give my party bad pr.

keyes, if he runs, will be on those cable news shows every night.  and joe sixpack at home will say, 'damn those republicans are crazy'

Not to mention that all his opponents have to do is show that clip of him in the Borat movie.

A Socialist or a progressive Republican.

Probably everyone here would be in the Home Rule (Irish Parlimentary) party.

Unless we have some hard-core nationalists or Unionists about. Which I really hope we do not.

I would've been a Unionist.

Given how conservative most Unionists were (and still are to an extent), I doubt that.

Dun Laoghaire.

Well any of the major middle class suburban regions.

Why are the "Party of the Animals" doing so well?

From the descriptions BRTD gave I would vote for Democrats 66.

EDIT: Damn Typos!

Progressive Democrats.

Eh..WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTT!?

Home Rule

Comprende?

Probably everyone here would be in the Home Rule (Irish Parlimentary) party.

Unless we have some hard-core nationalists or Unionists about. Which I really hope we do not.

Melbourne, Victoria.

Dublin, Ireland

[Abortion -]

Abortion -: While I don't like Abortion and should only ever be encouraged as the last resort it would be wrong to make it illegal in the United States. A ban on Abortion would just encourage more backstreets for poor mothers, while the rich would go abroad to get an abortion. Ireland is one of the few countries in the EU where Abortion is still illegal (and is just a big an issue here as in the US) and experience seems to suggest the above will happen. Though thankfully backstreets are very rare, anyone can go across to Britain to get an abortion. (About 7,000 each year)
The Budget (PayGO) - The goverment should try to run a balanced budget, deficit spending should be kept to a minimum.
Immigration - Keep borders somewhat open, anyone without a criminal record should be able to live in any country of one's choosing.
Organized Labor - Workers should have the right to unionize and to strike without fear losing one's job. Corporations have too power as it is.
Same-sex marriage/adoption rights - Homosexual couples should have the same legal status as Heterosexual ones in both marriage and adoption rights.
Slot Machines/Public Lottery to fund Gov't (State or Federal) - Why not?
Social Security Reform - Don't know enough about the US Social security system to comment.
Trade - Endorse Free and fair trade always regardless of country's legal status. In favour of Internationalism and against protectionism - which usually hurts small businesses more than multinationals corporations anyway.
War/Diplomacy - I favour a multilateral approach, in favour of the united nations. Against the Iraq war or any possible confrontation with Iran or Syria. America's relationship with Israel should be reconsidered as should America's historic post-cold war role in interfering in other soverign nations usually to benefit of multinationals under the guise what was then the communist threat, now the terrorist one. War should only ever be declared if the United States is threatened or under attack by another nation or group. The CIA should be disbanded and reformed.

Multiple Choice -

1.  Family and Poverty.
A)  The breakdown of the traditional family results in increased poverty
B)  Increased poverty results in the breakdown of the traditional family.

Both are somewhat true.

2.  Knowing what you know today, would you still support going to war with Iraq?
A) Yes
B)  No

3.  School vouchers and access to public charter schools should be available to parents/kids in areas with a dysfunctional public school system.
A)  Agree
B) Disagree

4.  The Patriot Act infringes on civil liberties.
A)  Agree
B) Disagree

5.  Health care is a basic human right and should be provided by the Gov't to those who cannot afford it.
A)  Agree
B)  Disagree

Sorry to top this really old thread but I found this an interesting scenario enough to post a reply. (Don't ask me how I found this thread - I was bored okay.)

Gaitskell would have done better than Stephenson imo - he would be a fresh face and would probably appear more in the south than an intellectual Unitarian like Stephenson. Though Gaitskell would probably be destroyed out in the west.

Thank you all.

Well ignoring his past infamous remarks he remains an awful pork barreler, especially in regards to the defense industry (not unlike alot of other republicans).

And I agree that it is just as sad that Kennedy and Bob Byrd keep getting elected as it is Lott. I'm not partizan on this.

I'm sure if you check the history books there would be many 'messiahs' or 'great leaders' who could be considered war criminals.

Mohammed was more of his time, I suppose.

Danke, Herr Speedy.

Now, how would this happen?

In wishful thinking I selected option two.

RIP.

I really like him.. Pity he will be 78 and have literally no chance get anywhere near the nomination.

Horrible feeling it will be a republican.