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8851  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding signuture part 2? on: September 30, 2007, 09:57:00 am
Hahaha.. WTF? Is the only proper reaction.
8852  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Your Birthday in History on: September 30, 2007, 06:04:48 am
August 16th in History (According to Wikipedia):

Major Notable events:

*1792: Maximilien Robespierre presents a petition to legislative assembly of France demanding the setting up of a revolutionary Tribunal; which would later lead "the Terror". Sad

*1819: Peterloo Massarce. Sad Sad Sad

*1841: President John Tyler vetoes bill to re-establish Second bank of the United States. Whig Party member riot. Smiley

*1960: Cyprus gains independance from the UK. Smiley

*1964: Coup in South Vietnam replaces Duong Van Minh with Nguyen Khanh as President; Coup strongly supported by the United States goverment. Sad Sad

*1969: Charles Manson Arrested. Smiley

Births:
*1892: Otto Messmer, Cartoonist and Inventor of Felix the Cat
*1913: Menachem Begin, Former Prime Minister of Israel in the 80s, instigator of the Lebanon War. Sad
*1939: Sir Trevor Macdonald, British Newscaster for lowgrade tabloid sh**te ITV.
*1947: Carol Moseley Braun, US poltician, former Presidential candidate
*1954: James Cameron, Film Director - The Terminator, Aliens, etc
*1958: Madonna.. You know. (Is she really almost 50?)
*1988: The one and only Gulliver T. Foyle.

Deaths:
*1888: John Pemberton, Inventor of Coke Cola.
*1948: Babe Ruth, That Baseball guy.
*1949: Margaret Mitchell, Writer of Gone with the Wind
*1956: Bela Lugosi, Actor - Horror film roles, Dracula, etc
*1977: Elvis Presley. Yes, THAT Elvis
*1979: John Diefenbaker, Former Canadian Prime Minister
*2003: Idi Amin, Former Madman in Charge of Uganda
*2006: Alfredo Stroessner, Former Dictator of Paraguay
8853  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: opebo vs. Gully Foyle on: September 30, 2007, 05:48:47 am
So BRTD are you finally going to respond to my response to the random abuse of words and verbatim you have used against me?

But knowing that you'll just bring up your talking points again in a debate in three months time leading me to rebutt them again, and then bring them up again in another three months and I rebutt again and etc.
8854  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ireland General Discussion on: September 30, 2007, 05:07:18 am
Sadly I'd have to agree about the Greens - funny before the election I was thinking of joining the Young Greens.. not a chance of that happening now. Perhaps they should have stuck two minute ads on buddhist meditation.

Grin

As for the original point; I'm not even sure that Ireland needs a symbolic executor - but having an obvious leader is such a plus point for the intellectually lazy to focus on (also known as "the Meeja".) One thing about the 2007 Green Party Manifesto which alot of the document the Greens forgot about when going into goverment was a plan to reduce the number TDs to 120 (GOOD LUCK) - Ah well, the more I go on the more I tempted towards Radicalism.

120 TDs - oh no! Then the quality of the cabinet would surely inevitably decline. If the government had only 60-odd TDs instead of 80-odd (and I use 'odd' intentionally) then goodness knows how many more gormless so-and-soes end up making decisions on educaton and whatnot.

Yes clearly with only 120TDs we would miss some great contributors to democracy such as, say, Michael Mulcahy, Cyprian Brady, Barry Andrews, John Curran, Charlie Flanagan (see I can be biased against FG too. Wink ), All the Waterford TDs, et al.

Wait a minute, what am I talking about - this is Ireland - where your level of political mediocrity is more likely to get you elected. Being a FF TD is a pretty sweet job.. 100,000 a year often for doing near fuck all except being yes men to the goverment but because of the "Keltik Tigah" you won't ever lose your seat unless you're an idiot.. I mean just look at, well, Michael Mulcahy, Cyprian Brady (oooh.. he's on the radio now), Barry Andrews, etc...
8855  General Politics / Book Reviews and Discussion / Re: The Southern Victory Series by Harry Turtledove on: September 30, 2007, 04:59:14 am
Never read Turtledove.. he stricks me as a typical AH writer tbh.

As for the Scenario listed above, while it's not quite Alternative History in the classic sense (though it does deal with a victorious CSA) this is the only great book out there.. one of the best actually.

8856  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Which best describes Rudy Giuliani's position on abortion? on: September 30, 2007, 04:57:00 am
It's always struck me that the level that potential Republican candidates care about Abortion is direct opposite proportion to the level of the Republican 'base'.

Not that should seem anything at all surprising.
8857  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: U.S. violent crime rises in 2006 on: September 30, 2007, 04:35:43 am
I suppose because 1994 is the year when those who were not born due to Roe would have been in a significant age group to commit crimes.

No one commits crimes before the age of 21?

Of course not. I was merely making an assertion at Ebowed's expense. Though I think it should be fairly self-evident that the rate of criminals tends to plateau among people in their twenties (IIRC) of course as I don't know the New York example at all well I will take your advice to Inks here and follow Healy's rule of holes. Wink
8858  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: U.S. violent crime rises in 2006 on: September 30, 2007, 04:30:22 am

Wasn't that way back in the '70s?  Why would it have taken until 1994 for crime rates to start dropping?

I suppose because 1994 is the year when those who were not born due to Roe would have been in a significant age group to commit crimes.

I wouldn't agree with all of that btw. Though there is some truth in that assertion I doubt it's the full picture.
8859  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which 3 forum members are you politically closest to? on: September 30, 2007, 04:27:52 am
Ebowed, Everett and Rob.
8860  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post something blatantly untrue about the preceding poster on: September 30, 2007, 04:26:50 am
Is actually an extra in a David Lynch film; this explains the warps in logic and the space-time continuum which have created Robert Stark.
8861  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Your political heroes on: September 30, 2007, 04:25:58 am
'Heroes' among american politicians?  They're all just pigs at the trough, serving the masters.  The only one I can think of who consciously made a major sacrifice for what he thought was 'right' was, oddly enough, Lyndon Baines Johnson.

My personal 'heroes'.. no heros exactly, but people I admire.. right now Michel Foucault..



Wow. Opebo has just put himself above the forum. (If you ignore that first paragraph)

As for me, I've already mentioned Butler so I might aswell mention Michael Davitt, Daniel O'Connell and the Burmese protesters.
8862  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which three forum members are closest to the previous poster politically? on: September 30, 2007, 04:16:13 am
Richius, Emsworth, AuH20 (when he was still around...)
8863  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding song lyrics on: September 30, 2007, 04:10:18 am
Gee, Clay, I never knew you were so kinky. Tongue

-----

Into the distance, a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled

A fatal attraction holding me fast
How can I escape this irresistible grasp?
Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies
Tongue-tied and twisted, just an earth-bound misfit, I

Ice is forming on the tips of my wings
Unheeded warnings, I thought I thought of everything
No navigator to guide my way home
Unladened, empty and turned to stone

A soul in tension that's learning to fly
Condition grounded but determined to try
Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies
Tongue-tied and twisted, just an earth-bound misfit, I

Above the planet on a wing and a prayer,
My grubby halo, a vapour trail in the empty air,
Above the clouds I see my shadow fly
Out of the corner of my watering eye
To dream unthreatened by the morning light
Could blow this soul right through the roof of the night

There's no sensation to compare with this
Suspended animation, a state of bliss
Cant keep my eyes from the circling skies
Tongue-tied and twisted, just an earth-bound misfit, I

Gabu once again puts himself in front of 99% of the forum. That's such an awesome song..

So you been to school
For a year or two
And you know you've seen it all
In daddy's car
Thinkin' you'll go far
Back east your type don't crawl

Play ethnicky jazz
To parade your snazz
On your five grand stereo
Braggin' that you know
How the niggers feel cold
And the slums got so much soul

It's time to taste what you most fear
Right Guard will not help you here
Brace yourself, my dear:

It's a holiday in Cambodia
It's tough, kid, but it's life
It's a holiday in Cambodia
Don't forget to pack a wife

You're a star-belly sneech
You suck like a leach
You want everyone to act like you
Kiss ass while you bitch
So you can get rich
But your boss gets richer off you

Well you'll work harder
With a gun in your back
For a bowl of rice a day
Slave for soldiers
Till you starve
Then your head is skewered on a stake

Now you can go where people are one
Now you can go where they get things done
What you need, my son:.

Is a holiday in Cambodia
Where people dress in black
A holiday in Cambodia
Where you'll kiss ass or crack

Pol Pot, Pol Pot, Pol Pot, Pol Pot

And it's a holiday in Cambodia
Where you'll do what you're told
A holiday in Cambodia
Where the slums got so much soul
8864  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding song lyrics on: September 29, 2007, 04:36:49 am
Fairly decent lyrics - though a tad unimaginative.

The sweet smell of a great sorrow lies over the land
Plumes of smoke rise and merge into the leaden sky:
A man lies and dreams of green fields and rivers,
But awakes to a morning with no reason for waking
He's haunted by the memory of a lost paradise
In his youth or a dream, he can't be precise
He's chained forever to a world that's departed
It's not enough, it's not enough
His blood has frozen & curdled with fright
His knees have trembled & given way in the night
His hand has weakened at the moment of truth
His step has faltered
One world, one soul
Time pass, the river rolls
And he talks to the river of lost love and dedication
And silent replies that swirl invitation
Flow dark and troubled to an oily sea
A grim intimation of what is to be
There's an unceasing wind that blows through this night
And there's dust in my eyes, that blinds my sight
And silence that speaks so much louder that words,
Of promises broken
8865  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post something blatantly untrue about the preceding poster on: September 29, 2007, 04:29:46 am
Hughento is the child of a weird breeding experiment between John Howard and a 10 foot Platipus named Bilbo. Though it is often believed that in this experiment something was lost in Translation.
8866  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What are you listening to right now? on: September 29, 2007, 03:50:45 am
Skid Row - 18 and Life
I see a trend in your songs. Someone been playing GH:80's?

Perhaps.

But I'm breaking the streak now.

Pink Floyd - Sorrow

Gabu has just put himself over 99% of the forum.

Oh and I'm currently listening to the Rain and the Cars outside.
8867  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which of the following do you support? on: September 29, 2007, 03:47:59 am
1. Unconditional amnesty for undocumented immigrants
Yes.

2. Immigrants' (including "illegals") unrestricted access to social services -
Maybe. Define "Social Services" - but generally yes.

3. A fence/wall on the U.S.-Mexican border -
Absolutely not.

4. Jail time for private drug use -
Hell no. I strongly oppose criminalising drug usage.

5. Fine for private drug use -
See above.

6. Prisoners, including felons, allowed to vote -
Depends on the Crime and type of sentence.

7. Ban D&X ("partial birth abortions") -
Not Sure.

8. Public funds towards medically prescribed marijuana -
No.

9. Public funds towards medically prescribed viagra -
If it isn't medically necessary, then no. Doesn't the government have more important things to spend money on?

10. Public funds towards abortions -
"Lesser of Two Evils" - so yeah.

11. Estate tax at 45% for assets over $100 million -
Estate Tax = Inheritance Tax Right? If so, yes.

12. Require legalized immigrants (previously illegal) to pay "back taxes" -
No.

13. Require bankrupt people to pay back debt -
Depends on the situation, I guess. But generally Yes.

14. Ban the importation of Cuban cigars -
No.

15. Allow people to travel to Cuba -
Of course.

16. Ban production of films depicting the assassination of sitting presidents -
No.

17. Criminalize text pornography describing illegal acts -
No.

18. Consider pro-death penalty lobbies and organizations as "hate groups" -
No.

19. Give $5,000 to every baby born in the U.S. or born overseas to at least one U.S. resident -
What the hell? This could see by many as pro-illegal immigration btw. But it's really, really silly idea.
8868  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding poster's PM score on: September 29, 2007, 03:35:26 am
Irrelevant. The Matrix is a rather silly test which only gauges "mainstream" opinion.

But I like Gabu, so it's all good.
8869  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding song lyrics on: September 28, 2007, 07:42:38 pm
Pretty Damn cool I must say.

There was a king who ruled the land.
His majesty was in command.
With silver eyes the scarlet eagle
Showers silver on the people.
Oh Mother, tell me more.

Why'd'ya have to leave me there
Hanging in my infant air
Waiting?
You only have to read the lines
They're scribbly black and everything shines.

Across the stream with wooden shoes
With bells to tell the king the news
A thousand misty riders climb up
Higher once upon a time.

Wandering and dreaming
The words have different meaning.
Yes they did.

For all the time spent in that room
The doll's house, darkness, old perfume
And fairy stories held me high on
Clouds of sunlight floating by.
Oh Mother, tell me more
Tell me more.
Aaaaaaaah
Aaaaaaaah
Aaaaaaaah
8870  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Teenagers and Stupidity on: September 28, 2007, 07:38:44 pm
It's just hard to accept, fellow Daniel, that someone could proclaim their great intelligence while simultaneously telling us of their "observations" that some gurlz are just soooo stupid!111.
I'm certain that a lot of these "dumb" girls are smarter than the people who are whining so pretentiously about them. I am greatly amused by seeing men pour out their insecurities and inadequacies onto an Internet forum.

Especially one about Politics. Having been on this and many other politics site for long enough I've concluded that Politics is what young bored middle-class male teenagers often seem to get interested in whenever they want to look as pretentious and intellectual as possible. (I'll leave you to figure what this young bored middle-class male is doing on this website then - at half one in the morning local time?)
8871  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The island of Antigua threatens the US with Free Trade.... on: September 28, 2007, 07:27:01 pm
Why does this thread only get one reply while Jfern's "OMG WARMONGER OMG HACK OMG!111" and BRTD's grand detirus and bilge of the internet get so much attention. I mean it's not exactly a number one issue, but it does show something extremely important about the nature of the current adminstration. Much more than yet another thread on the Iraq bloodbath can.
8872  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Teenagers and Stupidity on: September 28, 2007, 07:23:52 pm
A fine example of the long and proud tradition of anti-intellectualism in America.  Roll Eyes

This thread yes.

So some girl doesn't know what Morse Code is? And that matters because.. (I'm not saying she isn't dumb but I'm more curious to the fact that you picked that as an example. It's just trivia. Though I can't imagine anyone, I mean, anyone who has managed to at least have had some contact with the outside world in the form of the media in the past ever not knowing who Hitler was.)

Of course I should go here into how Schooling and methods of rearing (Watching Television when your whenever, but especially young can be considered an education you know) are responisible for this mess. But I won't. Al is right, there is too much Elitism on this board: the parade of "OMG LOOK HOW SMARTZ I IS!11" in this thread is quite ridiculous actually. Though here I'd have to agree with Gabu, once again he states a truly scientific fact:

However stupid some girls may be, they will never surpass the sheer ignorance and retardation present in jock types.
8873  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ireland General Discussion on: September 28, 2007, 06:49:57 pm
I love the "OMG TEH GOVERMENT ALMOST LOST HOW DARE TDs BE INDEPENDENT!!111" reaction.

Which is why:
a) Democracy is really a joke in Ireland.
b) The Parliamentary system is alot of bollocks really.

Considerably stronger language than I'd use, but I have sympathy with these points. The fused executive-legislature in particular bothers me; that and the Seanad's neutered state.

At least now I have more to watch the blood letting and theatre Mahon Tribunal continue without the media thinking it somehow irrelevant.. Now come on, greenies, time to show some backbone.

The Greens have proven they will hold firm. They have now firmly nailed themselves to Bertie and only a smoking gun or the next Mahon report would give them reason to exit.

The decision to bring them into government though clearly paid off this week - otherwise the Government would have found huge difficulty in winning the confidence vote (and would almost certainly have lost the Shannon vote).

Sadly I'd have to agree about the Greens - funny before the election I was thinking of joining the Young Greens.. not a chance of that happening now. Perhaps they should have stuck two minute ads on buddhist meditation.

As for the original point; I'm not even sure that Ireland needs a symbolic executor - but having an obvious leader is such a plus point for the intellectually lazy to focus on (also known as "the Meeja".) One thing about the 2007 Green Party Manifesto which alot of the document the Greens forgot about when going into goverment was a plan to reduce the number TDs to 120 (GOOD LUCK) - Ah well, the more I go on the more I tempted towards Radicalism.
8874  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding signuture part 2? on: September 28, 2007, 06:41:25 pm
Let's pretend that that signature is profound. Tongue

^^^^

Admittely, though you're funnier. Tongue

(Btw, my sig is taken from Neil Postman's (a man I consider an intellectual mentor) book Teaching as a subversive activity sadly it's only about half of what I wanted included. But space restrictions\problems finding the text on the web contributed.)
8875  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding signuture part 2? on: September 28, 2007, 06:18:58 pm
A good Person.. with bad ideas. That's you.

Bad people with good ideas. That's the individuals pictured in your signature.
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