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8851  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: official Nevada Republican results thread on: January 19, 2008, 05:26:03 pm
LOL@Gully getting owned.

Not according to CNN (which is what I am going at):

Romney 17,859 52% 16
Paul 4,426 13% 3
McCain 4,404 13% 3
Thompson 2,606 8% 2
Huckabee 2,583 8% 2
Giuliani 1,553 4%
Hunter 596 2%
Clinton 5,221 51%
Obama 4,637 45%
Edwards 388 4%

Uncommitted 31 0%
Kucinich 4 0%

That's with more reporting for the Democrats (88% to 78%) though according to CNN they haven't accolated delegates yet. But by simple head count you can tell the Republicans had a higher turnout - Romney got 1% higher than Clinton but 300% the votes.
8852  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: official Nevada Republican results thread on: January 19, 2008, 05:05:39 pm
The Turnout here was much higher than in the Democratic Caucus. Which is something that surprised me at least.

Anyone wish to vouch for why?
8853  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What's the last movie you've seen? on: January 19, 2008, 07:00:38 am
No Country for Old Men

Javier Bardem > You.

What? That's exactly the type of movie you'd rail against. The epitome of nihilistic violence.

Uh.. No.
8854  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Into the future on: January 18, 2008, 09:38:01 pm
How can we expect a booming global economy to continue if we're going to reach 9 billion people in the near future? That by definition is going to put enormous strains on resources. The US alone already consumes more than the rest of the world. That China or India are developing and could have a larger economy than us just makes the future of the world bleaker in the short term.

Because if we run out of a natural resource the free market will respond to incentives to create more of that resources though its magical and mystical ways.

So don't worry about all that Peak Oil stuff. The Free Market will find a way - it always does *.

* Except when it hasn't. Isn't that what learning about Externalities in Economics 101 is all about?
8855  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Into the future on: January 18, 2008, 09:29:53 pm
Forget the talk of recession. The world is about to enter a new era in which miracle drugs will conquer cancer and other killer diseases and technological and scientific advances will trigger unprecedented economic growth and global prosperity.

Pie in the sky optimism? Perhaps. But there are reasons to be optimistic, and they rest not on science fiction but within the badly misnamed "dismal science," economics.

Those Jetpacks and Robots from the 1950s are well overdue. And where is my Moon Vacation?

If you don't want to die, it's much better to have the common disease. The reason? The cost of developing drugs for rare and common diseases are about the same, but the revenues aren't. Pharmaceutical companies concentrate on drugs with larger markets because larger markets mean more profits.

Apart from that part of the market which is too poor to afford the drug and is unable to get any from a competitor because the US wants to enforce its worldwide patenting laws.

As a result, there are more drugs to treat diseases with a lot of patients than to treat rare diseases

There are plently non-market reasons for this, perhaps researchers wants to research into common diseases is because they are the diseases which do the most common? (And if its capital, research and a "common disease" that is only needed, why has no cure to the common cold been found yet?)

So imagine this: If China and India were as wealthy as the U.S., the market for cancer drugs would be eight times larger than it is today.

So imagine this: Both India and China having millions and millions of subsitence peasents who migrate to the cities to toil factories all day and lead unrewarding lives just so westerners can get consumer products cheaper and then read some self-justifying bullsh*t from the likes of Forbes..... Oh no wait, That's Reality!

Like pharmaceuticals, new computer chips, software and chemicals also require large research and development (R&D) expenditures. As India, China and other countries become wealthier, companies will increase their worldwide R&D investments. Most importantly, as markets expand, companies and countries will put to work the greatest asset of all for the betterment of mankind: brain power.

If history has taught us anything, it's that Betterment of makind does not equal "making more money for me".

Poverty means that millions of potentially world-class scientists today spend their lives trying to eke out a subsistence living, rather than leading mankind's charge into the future.

Sadly this is very true, Perhaps they would feel better if this guy from Forbes came up to them and said "You know you may too poor to have a serious opportunity at life, but don't worry thanks to the miracles of unfallable Free Market (TM) people you don't know in the future from countries which may not be yours which perhaps be able to achieve. But only if there Economy grows right."

Or then again perhaps not.

But if the world as a whole were as wealthy as the U.S.

Hasn't this guy heard of Scarcity? Are we looking at an "unlimited returns" situation ala the Internet circa 1998.

In the 20th century, two world wars diverted the energy of two generations from production to destruction.

Partially caused by the very forces described in this article

World poverty meant that the U.S. and a few other countries shouldered the burdens of advancing knowledge nearly alone.

Now we're into White Man's Burden terriority. If only the poors were like us..

Trade, development and the free flow of people and ideas are uniting all of humanity

Osama Bin Laden Disagrees.

This gives us reason to be highly optimistic about the future.

Only if you believe in modern Economical Alchemy that is "OMG TEH FREE MARKET!1111".*

And it didn't even mention Global Warming. *sigh*

* - Interestingly enough the era of highest worldwide growth was the period 1945-1973; the golden age of Keynesian economics (Cue Bono talking about causation). Apart from that some well noted examples quite alot of the world (such as Subsaharan Africa) have actually gone backwards from that point.

8856  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which party would the previous poster have voted for in the past 5 UK electi on: January 18, 2008, 09:13:25 pm
1987: Tory or Alliance
1992: Tory
1997: Labour
2001: Lib Dems
2005: Tory
8857  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Israel on: January 18, 2008, 07:29:18 pm
I liked our previous environs just fine.

This reminds me of a government class I had back in high school.  The teacher insisted that it was a class about "goverment" not "politics"... so I raised my hand and said, "So this is a course abotu government in theory, then?"

Any discussion of the Middle East without Israel is just a discussion in theory.

.... which is one of the big problems of the Middle East.
8858  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Gully Foyle's Ireland Place on: January 18, 2008, 07:08:44 pm
And this Farmers should remove some of the confusion..

8859  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Gully Foyle's Ireland Place on: January 18, 2008, 06:42:04 pm
Given the close result and the United Ireland map, I wonder how the North would have voted actually.

If that was the case I suspect that the result in the Republic would be different too. Localism\Tribalism\Sectaranism and all that..

Anyway I'll post these maps which I have already in the Gallery here aswell, they are interesting.. though flawed but I'll get more feedback here.

8860  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding signuture part 2? on: January 18, 2008, 04:59:14 pm
Who is that guy?

No-one Political (at all) just a writer whose works I happen to admire.

[Skip me]
8861  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What's the last movie you've seen? on: January 18, 2008, 04:33:47 pm
No Country for Old Men

Javier Bardem > You.
8862  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Former Rep. Siljander (R-MI) charged with aiding Taliban, Al-Qaeda on: January 18, 2008, 04:31:21 pm
A potential VP pick for Mitt Romney?

Calling Hekmatyar a "warlord ally of the Taliban" is worse than absurd. That's like a partisan Republican of this forum calling BRTD "Gully Foyle's sidekick" (no, no one ever did.)

8863  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding signuture part 2? on: January 18, 2008, 04:25:47 pm
It furthers my impression of you as an annoyance.
8864  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What are your top issues? on: January 18, 2008, 04:15:58 pm
The idea of Individual Autonomy and the right to pursue our own unique stupidity in our unique way without interference from any outside official body (whether that be church, state, military or the Boy scouts of America.)

I think that happens to touch on pretty much every issue on that list.
8865  General Discussion / History / Re: Who is your favorite President? on: January 18, 2008, 04:11:25 pm

No. Dlaigh.

Though apart from the first three and the current incumbent most of our presidents (ie. half) haven't been too offensive.
8866  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Bobby Fischer has died on: January 18, 2008, 06:52:05 am
He was a typical crazy genius.

Very[/u] Crazy.

RIP. Despite Everything.
8867  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Comedy Goldmine 3: The Mineshaft--SHAFT! on: January 17, 2008, 07:06:14 pm

And I thought this forum couldn't get any whiter.
8868  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Why didn't Obama salute the American flag? on: January 17, 2008, 05:28:42 pm
""When fascism comes to the United States it will be wrapped in the American flag and will claim the name of 100-percent Americanism ... "

Strangely, it's unclear who actually said that first.

Looks like a re-hashing of something Orwell said about fascism in England. It's true of course; fascism is first and foremost nationalist.

It was "when Fascism comes to the US it will be wrapped in the flag and carry the Cross" and it was Sinclair Lewis.
8869  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How do you pronounce the name of the previous poster... on: January 17, 2008, 01:47:31 pm
Joh-sehff Swehk
8870  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Gaming the States: West Virgnia on: January 17, 2008, 01:30:07 pm
It's Al Time!

[P.S: Democratic pickup assuming Hillary is the nominee.]
8871  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Poizner vs. Brown 2010? on: January 17, 2008, 09:19:54 am
I think Brown would win over just about anyone, though Poizner is worth almost 1 billion I believe, so he could invest alot of money into the race and make it close. But Brown would be favored at least. Could we then look forward to a Brown run for president in 2016? Id vote for him. Problem is, hed be in or near his 80s then, right?

Our Next Governor's time has passed on the national level, unfortunately.

I won't believe his time in the spotlight is over until he is in the grave. I wish he had won in 92. Brown "16!

Keep Jello Biafra's dream alive!
8872  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding signuture part 2? on: January 17, 2008, 08:21:43 am
The Quote and the Image jar. Which is appropriate.
8873  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: are you more conservative or liberal than the preceding atlasian? on: January 16, 2008, 08:18:30 pm
8874  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: opinion of this picture on: January 16, 2008, 07:23:27 pm
You should have written "Nihilists for Mitt Romney" though perhaps doing that in South Carolina would have been more appropriate.
8875  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What is your opinion of this Part 2. Also graphic!!! on: January 16, 2008, 06:46:02 pm
Hey David S, when you see pictures of children dying of starvation in Africa, nothing gets your blood boiling more than the idea that the US should invest in foreign aid, right?

A substantial amount of that Aid it should be pointed out (Certainly NOT ALL OF IT though) ends up leading towards pictures of dead children in Africa, not stopping it.
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