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8926  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: would a Giuliani presidency be similar to Nixon's? on: August 31, 2007, 06:10:45 am
I don't think it would. Giuliani seems quite socially authoritarian.

And Nixon's wasn't... ?

Btw, I was travelling throughout the UK (Though I actually made the mistake of saying I was travelling through England... in a bar in Edinburgh.) and I think in order to speed up my journey, dependant as it was on public Transport (I know understand The Divine's Comedy "National Express" song) and on foot, I must have jaywalked at least 100 times. Amazingly this did not turn me into a social deviant, except perhaps in eyes of some Scottish pub patrons nor did they involved in any accident worthy of note. Just felt like bringing this up, you know...
8927  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Redistricting...Ireland? on: August 31, 2007, 03:07:58 am
Finally finished Lenister (sans Dublin; which to quote Jas, as every right minded Irish person knows, should always be seperated from the rest of the Country, I'll leave it till last.) but upcoming is Munster, which isn't too difficult... simply because many of the Dail constituencies can serve this purpose. Smiley
8928  General Politics / Political Essays & Deliberation / Opinion of "War is a Racket" on: August 30, 2007, 07:11:39 pm
http://lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm

Quite clearly we need to listen to Smedley.
8929  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding signuture part 2? on: August 30, 2007, 06:50:30 pm
I laughed out loud first time I saw it. Still amusing.
8930  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: would a Giuliani presidency be similar to Nixon's? on: August 30, 2007, 06:16:38 pm
No; Nixon was more capable, and more ethical than Giuliani.

Did two people just say Nixon had ethics? LOLZ.

Compared to Giuliani.

8931  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Redistricting...Ireland? on: August 30, 2007, 05:25:57 pm
Lenister - Part III (South Lenister)

North Wicklow:
Constituency contains Bray, Greystones, Enniskerry, Blessington, The Mountains, Kilcoole, Newtownmountkennedy, Ashford, Donard and Baltinglass. Constituency boundaries are defined by County Wicklow with a slight diagonal line going straight from Kiltegan to Rathnew.

Odd, Odd place voting wise. Wicklow really has no strong Republican traditions and I can't see CnaG doing well at all, like alot of the region surrounding Dublin it would probably be a Labour-IPP marginal constituency. Bray is by far the major population centre of the town is the sort of faded seafront ex-holiday place that one seems as strongly Labour in the UK but quite Fianna Fail-ish in Ireland, The coast around Wicklow in Bray and Greystones start off as fairly Working Class and increases in Status when one goes further up. Due to the Mountains farming isn't as important here as it may be other regions, though still significant. Wicklow was former Region of Charles Stewart Parnell and is fairly moderate yet unpredictable in it's choices. It's promoxity to Dublin makes it have a strong Social liberal streak (That, and all those all Wonkish new age types that seem to be spread across the Wicklow Mountains.) Probably Labour from 1997..

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Liz McManus (Labour)

South Wicklow & Carlow:
Constituency contains Wicklow Town, Rathdrum, Arklow, Avoca and Aughrim, Basically the entire of County Wicklow not in North Wicklow plus the entire of County Carlow north of Bagnelstown, Including Carlow and Tullow.

South Wicklow is much more conservative than the North, plus a major factor is the Commuter areas around Arklow and Rathdrum. Rural and dotted with Smallish but affulent villages and farms it's probably powerful IPP terriority.. aswell as being the old home of Parnell. Though IPP influence is starting to wane due to the Commuters it's unlikely to see it having much effect on this side of the constituency. Carlow is the biggest town in the Constituency, it also has a decent number of Students and a history of a "soft-left" vote. Strong IPP seat with Labour in Second, Tories would do fairly decent too with the right candidate, the whole of Wicklow has a fairly Independent streak and it wouldn't be such a huge issue, there is also a decent sized Protestant community. Clann na nGael would have little success.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Billy Timmins (Irish Parliamentary Party)

North Wexford:
Constituency contains Gorey, Ferns, Killane, Ford, Enniscorthy, Blackwater, Oilgate and Castlebridge with the border defined with a direct line just south of Castlebridge, Excluding New Ross.

This area is now Prime commuter belt and rather upper-working Class and Lower-Middle in certain respects (perhaps a way putting is it's full of the Irish equilavalent of the Daily Mail reading classes) fairly Social Liberal nowadays only due to the Dublin influence. Again like most of Lenister it would be strongly held by the IPP until 1997 when Labour would come significantly into the fore. Though CnaG would not be insignificant here either though the Tories would be, there is a decent nationalist streak in Wexford (Dating back from 1798). Difficult to call really. I'll go with the IPP.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Michael D'arcy (Irish Parliamentary Party)

North Kilkenny:
Constituency contains the City of Kilkenny, Urlingford, Castlecomer, Ballyraggat, Goresbridge, Callan and Thomastown. The border is defined by a straight line across just north of Ballyhale.

Now we're getting into terriority whose promixity to Dublin might not seriously influence it's politics, at least as much as in Kildare and Wicklow. In Irish politics at least since WT Cosgrave, Carlow-Kilkenny has generally been ignored by Irish goverments and hasn't produced a cabinet member in... god knows how long? Has a tendency to vote for mavericks and has a decent "soft-left" vote. The Constituency is divided into three: 1) The City of Kilkenny and it's suburbs, The city being Affluent and Medevil and would probably have strong Anglo connections in this timeline, 2) The towns of roughly 2,000 or 3,000 in population like Castlecomer, Urlingford, Thomastown, etc.. which divide themselves in those most "working\lower-middle class" or "Decklandesque" towns  and 3) The farmers.. Kilkenny is not a poor region of Ireland Agriculturally and it's quite close to two of the major ports.. Waterford and Dublin. All these factors suggest that this would be a fairly Strong Irish Parliamentary Party seat, though with both Labour and the Conservatives having some presense.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: John McGuinness (Irish Parliamentary Party)

And here's one that dicests two Provinces and four counties.

The South East:
Consituency contains 1) Ballinat and Ballyhale in County Kilkenny (Anywhere in Kilkenny not in North Kilkenny), 2) the City of Waterford and Dunmore in County Waterford, 3) The Southern Tip of Carlow (anywhere in Carlow excluded from South Wicklow & Carlow) and 4) The Southern Region of Wexford including Newross, Duncannon Wexford and Rosslare. The Border being defined just west of Waterford city, excluding Tramore.

Contains two of Ireland's major ports - Rosslare and Waterford, aswell as Wexford town. Major Trading hub.. this constituency is so convulted due to the fact that the County boundaries really don't help me here - Waterford too big for just one, too small for two. Ditto with Wexford. And if it wasn't for the demographics of this constituency there wouldn't much previous Election results to base my prediction on. Fairly Working Class though with a few Affulent farmers.. Waterford City has one of the more sharper class divides in Ireland, with the Workers Party, Sinn Fein doing well (as well as the region having shown some historical strength for the Labour Party) but as has the PDs and the more right-wing\neo-liberal elements of Fianna Fail. An interesting constituency, the role of Clann na nGael is tricky to form, would probably hold the seat in the 80s due to Anti-Thatcherism and an alienation towards the Labour party in Great Britain (Neither Foot nor Kinnock really have much "Ireland" appeal imo.) would be a fairly strong three-way marginal between CnaG, Lab and the IPP. With the present Economic boom it's hard not to see Nationalist sentiment waning.. leans Labour, slightly.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Brendan Howlin (Labour)

8932  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Redistricting...Ireland? on: August 30, 2007, 05:05:15 pm
Wow.. That's awesome. Though now I think of it the exact boundaries of the Kildare constituencies are a bit off.. but it's very hard to find accurate population data (especially on those over 18 and able to vote.) on the web. I might fix it later.

Lenister - Part III coming up in a bit.. (Working on it now)
8933  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Redistricting...Ireland? on: August 30, 2007, 03:15:23 pm
LENISTER - Part II (North Lenister - The Pale and enviorns)

North Louth:
Constituency includes Carlingford, Dundalk, Louth Town, Mansfieldtown and Ardee. The border of the constituency defined by the borders of county louth and a line just south of Ardee and north of Dunleer. Area well known for being a hotbed of Nationalist sentiment and politics and currently has a Sinn Fein TD. Dundalk (which makes up the majority of the constituency population), while a boom town, is still rather working class in orientation is often defined by the border. The expansion of the commuter belt is another demographic factor, though is more an issue further south. Generally votes for Populist-type candidates in Irish elections with reputation as good constituency workers. Leans CnaG.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Arthur Morgan (Clann na nGael)

Boyne Estuary:
Constituency Includes Dunleer, Termofeckin, Drogheda in South County Louth, The Coastal bit of East County Meath aswell as Slane, Dunleek and Skreen, stretching out to include some of the Suburbs of Navan and Ashbourne where there has been a population explosion recently. A constituency three parts, the more middle class and settled Drogheda, also a boom town but without the nationalist history of Dundalk. The Commuter belt towns which dotting all over Meath at a furious rate referred to  leading economist\professional wag David McWilliams as "Deckland", a key constituency in re-electing Bertie Ahern two months ago. Then there are the farmers and rural regions in this area which contains some of the richest land in Ireland. An area therefore strongly pro-Anglo but with independent sentiments and Despite some catching up as of late, it's usually pretty solid for the Irish Parliamentary Party, Though both the Tories and Labour have some presence, though here the Tories often go into Electoral pacts with the IPP when sectarian tension are at the low-down.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: John Bruton (Irish Parliamentary Party)

Central and Western Meath:
Constituency Includes Navan Town (but excludes the Southern Suburbs), Trim, Kells, Drumconrath, Oldcastle, Athboy and Enfield. Includes the entire of county Meath west of Navan with a diagonal line from Enfield to just west of Slane defining the borders. Similiar to Boyne Estuary with it's population especially around Navan and the rise of Deckland, but also a traditional stronghold of the Irish Parliamentary Party due to it's Dublin-Whiggish connections and the vast majority of support from the big farmers of the region. Labour usually does a decent performance around Navan and some of the more Working Class commuter areas but rarely takes the seat but usually finishes second though Clan influence is gaining somewhat. Like in the other parts of the Outer Pale (Meath, Kildare and Wicklow) the Tories and the IPP would be rather close, especially at local level.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Damien English (Irish Parliamentary Party)

The Outer Pale:
Constituency Includes South East Meath including Ashbourne town, Dumshaughlin, Dunboyne, Drumree and Batterstown aswell as the North East of county Kildare including Maynooth, Leixlip, Kilcock, and Straffan. This constituency would be INSANE due to the unbelievable population explosion in the region, Traditionally another IPP rural stronghold this is now full of dormitory towns full of people who work in Dublin and these people would be sort unpredictable in how they vote, but as I said before they were recognized as a key reason for the re-election of Bertie Ahern but that maybe down to the incumbency factor, certainly ideology is not prevelant here. Would either go Labour or IPP generally, If Cameron truly revives the Tory party it may even turn blue in 2009 or 2010 (and would certainly do so if this was a constituency in Britain). Also contains the University of Maynooth and so might have a strong 'liberal' vote. Not generally a nationalist area though so the CnaG would be fairly weak.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Emmet Stagg (Labour)

Central and Western Kildare
Constituency Includes Carbury, Robertstown, Rathagan, Prosperous, Alan, The Curragh, Johnstown, Sallins and Naas. Another area which has had amazing population growth in the past 10 years. Naas is now one of the biggest towns in Ireland and is full of the "deckland" constituency identified in re-electing Bertie Ahern (ie. Lower Middle-Class families priced out of Dublin homes but have generally done well in the Economic boom, tend to be ideologiless and so favour incumbents despite a slight anti-politician slant in general.) Traditionally like all of the Outer Pale this would have gone easily for the IPP in occasional alliance with the Tories depending on the mood of the 26 countries towards Britain and the Conservative party which would turn increasingly negative in the 80s and 90s. For this reason I suspect this may go with Labour for the time present, at least it would have done in 1997 and 2001, 2005 would be close between Labour and the IPP. Toryism though has revived here under Cameron

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Jack Wall (Labour)

South Kildare:
Constituency Includes Newbridge, Kildare Town, Monasterevan, Athy, Kilcullen and Castledermot. Basically the entire reminder of County Kildare. This area has seen some population increase but not as much as the other constituencies mentioned and thus is more traditional. (Except for the area around Newbridge) Though the area around Athy is a traditional stronghold of the Irish Labour Party and thus I imagine it would be another IPP\Occasional Tory - Labour battle with the Clan nowhere to be seen. Perhaps went Labour in the hype of 1997 and maybe even again in 2001 but likely to have been lost two years ago. Like all of these regions, this still has a strong Farmers lobby, the land here being some of the best in Ireland.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Sean Power (Irish Parliamentary Party)

Overall North Lenister:
IPP 3 Labour 2 CnaG 1

Overall Ireland:
Tories 10 CnaG 10 IPP 7 Labour 4

8934  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding signuture part 2? on: August 30, 2007, 01:50:33 pm
Nice Landscape. Though snow really ain't my thang.
8935  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Redistricting...Ireland? on: August 30, 2007, 01:10:47 pm
LENISTER - Part I (The easy bit):

Westmeath:
Consituency Includes all of County Westmeath. Conservative towns like Athlone and Mullingar predominate this consituency, It's actually very hard to judge who exactly they would vote for, in Irish elections like alot of Ireland they tend to get person over party. (Strangely it was one of the strongest seats for Labour in the last election - but alot of that vote would have been personal for Willie Penrose.) But the Irish system of Patronage coupled with PR-STV suits incumbents. It isn't as backwater as the Shannon west region and isn't central enough to Dublin really to be truly Commuter belt.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Mary O' Rourke (Clann na nGael)

Laois:
Consituency Includes all of County Laois. County has gone under rapid changes with the expansion of the lower- Middle Class Dublin commuter belt especially around Portlaoise. Infrastructure is a major issue here and may suit parties who desire "bigger goverment" but overall is a fairly Conservative-Populist place which almost never votes outside FF-FG in Irish Elections. (And constantly elected this guy as a TD.) Tough Call but if the Lower-Middle class stick with Conservative Populism here than it leans Clan. Could see a Decent Tory vote though, with the right candidate

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Charlie Flanagan (Clann na nGael)

Offaly:
Constituency Includes all of County Offaly. A County in two parts, Towns like Edenderry and Tullamore are growing fast in the commuter belt and are pretty much the commerical hub of the county. While the west is pretty much Fen county with decent sized towns like Birr and Banagher with a strong general Agrarian\Big Farmers lobby\Middle class lean. If this was a British constituency it would be strongly Tory and in Ireland rarely votes other than FF-FG (it's been pared with Laois for most of it's Dail history..) Where The Farmers lobby would lean IPP due mainly to Trade issues and the European union.. Would be close between both Irish parties, Labour wouldn't stand a chance but the Tories could be a wild card here.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Olwyn Enright (Irish Parliamentary Party)

So far:
Tories 10
CnaG 9
IPP 5
Labour 2
8936  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Redistricting...Ireland? on: August 30, 2007, 12:27:36 pm
Another Two Constituencies - which happens to Split Provinces:

Upper Shannonside:
Constituency Includes all of Cavan (excluding the areas included in Monaghan-East Cavan), Co. Leitrim and North Co. Longford - everywhere north of Longford Town, Abbeylara, Granard and Edgesworthtown. One of the poorest and easily most Rural Irish constituencies - in a single member constituency this would be a hotbed for populism and dislike of the Elites of Dublin and London. General Clann na nGael tilt with IPP only winning in good years. British parties nowhere to be seen. Strong tendency towards incumbents

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Brendan Smith (Clann na nGael)

Longford & Roscommon:
Constituency Includes all of South Co. Longford including Longford Town and the Entire of Co. Roscommon. Fairly similiar to Upper Shannonside except crucially there would be more medium sized (by Irish standards) towns here which would expect lean IPP (Places like Roscommon Town and Boyle certainly would imo - these are both sufficiently middle class areas, actually Roscommon generally has a middle-class Townie and Rural backwater divide, though there is more "big Farmers" than in Leitrim..). Despite it's reputation as the Most Boring county in Ireland this actually a rather interesting politically and is known for mood swings, Roscommon never having returned all of it's sitting TDs in a single election. For this I put it as a very good "Irish marginal" between both Native parties. Again as with the rest of the West of the Shannon, neither British party is up to much.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Dennis Naughton (Irish Parliamentary Party)

So far:
Conservatives 10
CnaG 7
IPP 4
Labour 2
8937  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Do you support the Titls of Nobility Amendment? on: August 30, 2007, 12:16:01 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titles_of_Nobility_Amendment

No. This might've been relevant in the 19th century, but it hardly is today. Why there are people who still want its ratification is beyond me.

Because it's anti-democratic?

Though no I'm not in favour of this, but shows how genuinely radical the US was in the early 19th Century.. Pity how much has changed...
8938  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: would a Giuliani presidency be similar to Nixon's? on: August 30, 2007, 11:56:50 am
No; Nixon was more capable, and more ethical than Giuliani.

Did two people just say Nixon had ethics? LOLZ.
8939  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Redistricting...Ireland? on: August 30, 2007, 07:55:08 am
Hey, what happened to earlier post. (Al quoted it, but it's vanished...?)

Of course the issue here is how Isolated Irish politics would become from the rest of the United Kingdom and how much local issues predominated, especially independence. But there are so many "what ifs" here. The Irish trade union movement in the south for example never really recovered from 1913 (and the later lose of Connolly too..) but if it remained the UK instead of the series of extremely conservative goverments we had post-independence.. The working class of Dublin after 1927 have always tended to vote for Fianna Fail, unless they are affiliated to a Union. Perhaps the only real Labour strongholds in the South would be the City of Limerick and Cobh (and Possibly Waterford Town too)

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but I can't imagine a peacetime Greater Belfast reacting with anything other than utter hatred to Thatcherite economic policies, so a further fall in the '80's seems likely. O/c maybe the Tories would have an electoral pact with your NPP by then?

It's Possible but unlikely, perhaps with McMillian and Heath as Tory leaders but not certainly not Thatcher.. I'd reckon the IPP would be very europhilic and would probably lean towards the Liberals (still) than either Labour or the conservatives. What happens in the 1980s with the SDP is difficult to say (Is there even an SDP in this scenario?) but I can't see Thatcher selling well anywhere in Ireland at all, except for mayble some enclaves in South East Dublin... but in the West her Prime Ministership would almost certainly bring back strong calls for independance.

Though in some areas no doubt the Tories and the IPP would be in alliance, especially in "The outer Pale" (Kildare, Meath, Wicklow...)
8940  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the YouTube video in the preceding post. on: August 30, 2007, 07:24:28 am
Oregon is clearly lacking in Jesus. Though some of the respondees are annoying.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SFlpHHH9EIU
8941  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Redistricting...Ireland? on: August 30, 2007, 06:31:17 am
ULSTER part II

Upper Bann:
Constituency contains Portadown, Drumcree and other Sectarian flashpoints. Making this an unlikely Labour constituency. The divisions here would be between CnaG and the Tory-Unionists, with the latter in ascendancy.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: David Trimble (Conservative)

Newry and Armagh:
Consituency contains South Armagh, Newry and many nationalist strongholds with a declining Protestant vote. Used to be very strong for the SDLP but is now very much a Sinn Fein constituency, so alot would depend on 'events' from 1922 onwards to see whether it votes IPP or CnaG. Impossible to say otherwise.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Conor Murphy (Clann na nGael)

Fermanagh and South Tyrone:
Constituency contains County Fermanagh and Dungannon region of South Tyrone, this is the constituency where Bobby Sands was famously elected in 1981 while he was on hunger strike. But reverted back to the Ulster Unionists until 2001. Very, very split constituency and it's hard to see moderation winning out here. Events would be important but I imagine that here the anti-Tory feeling in the mainland would swing just enough votes to CnaG (it would also in other places o\c but not enough to lose the seat) for the nationalists to gain.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Gerry McHugh (Clann na nGael)

Mid Ulster:
Constituency contains Cookstown, East Tyrone and South Co. Derry. Tends to have a strong populist rural vote (it's currently Martin McGuinness's seat) which just leans toward the nationalists but again 'events' would the key here. Difficult constituency to judge and labour may just have such strength here. IPP would do well here too, this once being a strong location of the old Nationalist party. Just a shot in the dark guess here.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Francie Molloy (Clann na nGael)

West Tyrone:
Constituency contains Omagh, Strabane, West Co. Tyrone. Nationalist leaning constituency but with a strong independant streak which almost saw it elect a cross-community independent in 2005 running as a "hospital" candidate showing that perhaps bread and butter issues can trump in some areas of the north. The nationalist lean and the lack of a true Labour natural support base means that I have this going IPP.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Brid Rogers (Irish Parliamentary Party)

East Derry:
Constituency contains most of Co.Derry save the city and the tiny region contained in Mid-Ulster, includes the towns of Coleraine and Limavady. Strong Unionist bent - until recently a UUP stronghold suggesting that it would be a fairly safe Tory seat.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: David McClarty (Conservative)

Foyle:
Constituency contains the City of Derry and the surrounding area. Nationalist stronghold where the UUP have always done badly, gaining just 2.4% of the vote last time around (less than the Socialist enviormentalist party) currently an SDLP stronghold whose votes in this timeline would transfer somewhat being the IPP and labour. With most of SF's going to CnaG. Tends to like incumbents but in an open year is a three way battle between these parties.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Mark Durcan (Labour)

So in the North I've got:
Tories 10 CnaG 4 Labour 2 IPP 2

REPUBLICAN ULSTER
Monaghan-East Cavan:
Constituency contains Co. Monaghan, and the Eastern Cavan the line drawn between Cootehill and Ballyjamesduff which towns it includes, anywhere east of that line is in this constituency plus the region around Belturbet, north of the river.  Like alot of the border counties it has a traditionally strong nationalist vote, it's Sinn Fein's really only safe seat in the republic (vote based in Monaghan mostly) and still has a split where many of the county's protestants (not insubstianable, but not enough to get near victory here) vote for Fine Gael. The Labour party would pretty much not exist here and the Tories would be a pretty weak third in the battle between CnaG and IPP, which would lean with the Former.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Caoimhghin O Caolain (Clann na nGael)

Donegal North East:
Constituency contains modern Dail constituency of Donegal North East, Letterkenny, the Inishowen Pennisula, the Islands, most of the Donegal Gaeltacht and Milford. Electorate: 58,208. Donegal going to slightly overrepresented here, but this is the easiest (and laziest) way. Again a border region with a strong protestant minority though it's hard to tell whether or not the Protestants in the South would stay with the tories or not (many of them, especially outside South Dublin, had already left by 1880 after all.) Strong Irish speaking population (which often equates with Voting FF or SF) and Odd place in general, is more nationalist than Donegal South West, plus the Blaney family's success shows the level of pro-nationalist feeling here. Though in parts Pro-EU sentiment would probably drive a resurgence in IPP. Labour vote minimal (as it is in the Republic, any left-wing vote goes with SF)

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Niall Blaney (Clann na nGael)

Donegal South West:
Contains modern Dail constituency of Donegal South West. Electorate: 54,789 Similiar to Donegal North East but with a stronger Union and Labour votes (around the Killybegs area I imagine) also with slightly less Irish speakers - the area generally is split between Conservatives and Populists. But like with Donegal North East has a very strong Farmers' lobby and powerful agrarian interests, which actually may make this area somewhat like in certain respects, the South West of England. Would most certainly be a IPP-CnaG swing constituency. Answer is just a guess.

Winner of the 2005 General Election: Dinny McGinley (Irish Parliamentary Party)

Ulster Overall (save West Cavan):
Conservatives 10
Clann na nGael 6
Irish Parliamentary Party 3
Labour 2
8942  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What's the last movie you've seen? on: August 30, 2007, 06:11:13 am

Kingdom of Heaven was genuinely awful though, but Miami Vice is by far the worst film I've ever seen in a cinema, I'd rather drink a can of paint while being raped by a ten foot green pole disguised as Colin Farrell then seen that again. Oh, and Colin Farrell must die. Painfully.

Miami Vice was horrible and let's not forget that Colin Farrell is a product of your country. Another shoddy product from the Celtic Tiger. Tongue

Ehh.. [class snobery]he's from North Dublin so that hardly counts.[/class snobery] Tongue
8943  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What Two Traits Would Describe the Preceding Forumite on: August 29, 2007, 08:43:38 pm
Protective
Industrious
8944  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What's the last movie you've seen? on: August 29, 2007, 08:39:14 pm
Star Trek: Nemesis

An absolutely horrible movie. My Dad's a big Trek fan and he dragged me to see this movie in the theaters. It claims the title of being the only movie I have ever seen that actually put me to sleep, though The Good Shepard was close.

While I've fallen asleep before films a few times (notably so with Godfather II and Apocalypse Now), the only movie I fell asleep in front of in a cinema was Kingdom of Heaven.

Well Kingdom of Heaven was an alright movie I just think it suffered from bad casting. In my opinion the movie would have been much better if Liam Neeson had played an older version Orlando Bloom's character.

On Orlando Bloom, I agree completely with the BBC film reviewer Mark Kermode (who calls him Orloondo Bland) when described his acting (in a scene with Kiera Knightley in Pirates 3) as "positively teaky" and "You feel like you need to get out the varnish and varnish it."

Actually, Kermode's scornful reviews of all the Pirates films are hilarious - I think they're downloadable from the BBC Radio 5 website. Well worth listening to.

Nice to meet another fellow Kermode fan then.. not that I agree with him lots but he is genuinely one of the best critics out there.

Btw, how could sleep during Apoclaypse now? The GF Part II I understand, but Apoclaypse now? Tsk... Tsk... Kingdom of Heaven was genuinely awful though, but Miami Vice is by far the worst film I've ever seen in a cinema, I'd rather drink a can of paint while being raped by a ten foot green pole disguised as Colin Farrell then seen that again. Oh, and Colin Farrell must die. Painfully.
8945  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding signuture part 2? on: August 29, 2007, 08:30:34 pm
Great quote, not sure about Biden.
8946  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: John Edwards says Americans should "sacrifice their SUVs" on: August 29, 2007, 07:59:23 pm
I'd prefer not to be completely crushed in a car wreck.

Regular cars are perfectly capable of protecting you.

Regular cars are also perfectly able of being "penis enlargements", as Gully put it.

Yes, but much more difficult to do unless you look permantely wrecked and play gangsta (and call it "gangsta") rap at about 200 decimals while trying to speed down a suburban hill in your Mazda. (Which I've actually seen once..)

It's just that, compared to that buying an SUV seems so subtle in trying to shout out "OMGZ LOOKZ HOW COOL I IS!111"...*

(* - Unless you live in a rural area or somewhere difficult terrain, then it's different.)
8947  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: John Edwards says Americans should "sacrifice their SUVs" on: August 29, 2007, 07:34:35 pm
Ah SUVs, the Automobile equivalent of Penis enlargement.
8948  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Redistricting...Ireland? on: August 29, 2007, 07:29:09 pm
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A mention should also be given to the Communists who, somewhat improbably, managed to poll a quarter of the vote in West Down in 1945.

Ehh.. Wow.

Btw Al what do you think of my work so far, as generally you're the one I go to with UK demographics\facts\predictions. Just curious.

I'll finish Ulster tomorrow, there's a bit of a problem with Cavan though.
8949  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ireland General Discussion on: August 29, 2007, 07:16:50 pm
I agree that Broughan would not do too well... he's way too North Dublin for any real success, but to be honest all I see is a field of mediocre in front of me.. Remember the most successful Labour leader ever was based in Kerry North, another Dublin Southite is not what the labour party needs. How about a long shot..... Brian O'Shea? Jack Wall (well.. outside Dublin)? Or actually coming to think of, Willie Penrose would be a good-ish choice.

Burton is too much like Teacher who thinks you have to speak at a rather simple level and constantly rehash the same point before it goes in - a point which often doesn't lead anywhere at all. Actually that's the problem with Irish politics... too many damn Teachers and lawyers. And Fianna Fail, obviously. And kids in Celtic hoodies who write up the 'Ra on walls, And the "Tiocfaidh ar la" crowd, and the Craggy Islanders and the Corruption and the Pariochalism, Localism and so on...
8950  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding signuture part 2? on: August 29, 2007, 06:50:44 pm
Random Straha-esque stuff.

Btw the men are Smedley Butler (a genuine American hero imo) and Michael Davitt (Irish patriot.. though somewhat forgotten now.)
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