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1  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Can we ban Oldiesfreak now? on: April 24, 2014, 04:41:57 pm
Here's the relevant section of the TOS. I've highlighted those categories that apply to Oldies' posting, both his posts on rape and his posting in the Good Post gallery and similar threads:

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You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law. You also agree not to post any copyrighted material unless you own the copyright or you have written consent from the owner of the copyrighted material. Spam, flooding, advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are also forbidden on this forum.

And of course "trolling," that nebulous catch all which applies to seemingly everything the moderators don't like but is not explicitly mentioned in the terms of service, would also apply, especially to his posts in the goldmines and such.

Again though, I'm not super invested in getting Oldies banned. He's annoying, but whatever. The problem is that things that are much less damaging to the forum are being deleted and infracted while his posts are not, even though both can easily be interpreted to be against the TOS.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Opposing Gay Marriage Doesn’t Make You a Crypto-Racist on: April 24, 2014, 04:34:26 pm
This guy's three points are all nonsense and/or inaccurate. People have already pointed out how racism did have religious roots, but his argument that gay marriage is trying to radically re-define an ancient institution is also disingenuous. Up until about a half century ago, marriage was essentially a property agreement transferring ownership of a woman from her father to her husband. Redefining marriage as an equal partnership was much more radical than current attempts to allow it between people with the same genitals. But opposition to both "re-definitions" is wrong and bigoted and reinforces existing societal inequalities that we should be doing everything in our power to do away with.

Sorry that bigots feel offended that people are daring to point out their bigotry. Hopefully the fact that society is constructed by and for their social group is enough to console their hurt feelings.
3  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Should felons be allowed to vote? on: April 24, 2014, 04:25:39 pm
I don't really feel strongly about voting rights while imprisoned (there are arguments on both sides that I find compelling, but at the end of the day, there is a long list of conditions of confinement that need to be dramatically improved, with not being able to vote close to bottom in importance), but they should definitely have full voting rights once they're released.
4  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Can we ban Oldiesfreak now? on: April 24, 2014, 04:14:13 pm
It's not that difficult to see how Oldies' posts are against the TOS, you just choose not to.
5  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Can we ban Oldiesfreak now? on: April 24, 2014, 04:06:06 pm
I don't really care if he's banned or not. I just think it's nonsense that people are given 4 or 5 death points for posting a naughty word but Oldies can repeatedly post incredibly offensive things about rape victims and get off with no punishment.
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: WI-PPP: Hillary leads everyone on: April 24, 2014, 04:04:49 pm
Not surprising that Midwesterners don't like a loudmouth asshole like Christie.
7  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: April 24, 2014, 12:53:12 pm

Why?
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is this the worst post in the history of Atlas? on: April 24, 2014, 11:16:25 am
Oh, put the smiley face away. No one cares about the stupid infraction system. We just happen to be sick of you all standing by idly letting trolls devour what is left of the forum after banning all of the legends.

This, exactly. I'd love for the infraction and moderation system to be done away with entirely. But if you little fascists are going to run around punishing people who actually contribute to this forum, and have for years, then we only ask that you apply the same rules to actual trolls who do nothing but degrade the quality of the forum.

Snowstalker received 14 death points last night for making a silly thread in the forum whose purpose is the posting of silly threads and then complaining that it was deleted; Oldiesfreak has received nothing for his constant trolling and his vile misogyny. King was put on mod review for a few dumb drunk posts that a lot of us found amusing; trolls like Krazen continue to post unabated. Legends like opebo are gone for posting things nowhere near as bad as Oldiesfreak's proposal to legally punish women for being raped.

If we must continue to live under these stupid rules that are destroying what made this forum so great, then at least apply them fairly and consistently.
9  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of on: April 24, 2014, 11:14:06 am
Freedom Activists!

If only for the reason that family courts in the United States are inherently biased against fathers or that men get the short end of the stick when it comes to federal funding of medical research that benefits them.

I don't know about the latter claim, but the former is definitely not true.
10  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Can we ban Oldiesfreak now? on: April 24, 2014, 11:07:04 am
So for a harmless thread pointing out Oldies' inconsistencies regarding his rape post and some other thing he said, I'm given 4 points, then given another 10 points for pointing out the inconsistency between how Inks treats me and oldies, and then the thread I made on this forum simply asking why said posts were deleted for "trolling" was deleted without a single word said.

And Oldiesfreak gets off scot-free. Mods, if you want to enforce the rules fairly and consistently, either take away my death points or lay down the hammer on Oldies.

F[inks]ing insane. The moderation here is completely out of control and totally arbitrarily enforced.
11  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Three Biggest Issues Why You Don't Vote For the Other Party on: April 23, 2014, 11:48:56 pm
There's really only one issue:

1. I don't think government should exist solely to serve the interests of rich white men.
12  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of on: April 23, 2014, 11:39:12 pm
It's a term I've only heard used by left-wingers to describe people who disagree with them, so I don't know.

Nah, that's the term they use to describe themselves. I read reddit pretty frequently so I'm fairly familiar with them, unfortunately.
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Federal government surrenders to armed right wing militia in Nevada on: April 23, 2014, 11:27:58 pm
Before you folks forget about him, beloved right-wing patriot and Republican party hero Cliven Bundy has just a few additional thoughts about "the Negro" to leave you with:

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He said he would continue holding a daily news conference; on Saturday, it drew one reporter and one photographer, so Mr. Bundy used the time to officiate at what was in effect a town meeting with supporters, discussing, in a long, loping discourse, the prevalence of abortion, the abuses of welfare and his views on race.

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/us/politics/rancher-proudly-breaks-the-law-becoming-a-hero-in-the-west.html?_r=0&referrer=
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Oldiesfreak1854 on: April 23, 2014, 11:13:53 pm
HP, spouts a lot of racist and sexist nonsense.

Fixed my earlier post in this thread.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Favourite latest post by previous poster on: April 23, 2014, 11:03:18 pm
What a needlessly shrekstravagant show of depravity.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is this the worst post in the history of Atlas? on: April 23, 2014, 11:01:45 pm
Yes, because he's a terrible moderator. He gave me four infraction points a month ago for posting a naughty word. But apparently a naughty word or a silly thread are both much, MUCH worse than disgusting misogyny.

[this is in reply to a Snowstalker post that inks deleted]
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: NY Times polls of four southern states (AR, KY, LA, NC) on: April 23, 2014, 10:48:33 pm
William Kristol writes that the polls' results seem bogus due to the disingenuous responses to the presidential vote question in number 12:



Looking at these results, one becomes pretty inclined to declare this a rather bad poll. As Kristol rightly points a poll that shows Obama one point behind in Arkansas, when carried Arkansas in 2012 by 24 points. Similarly, the Kentucky sample is +3 Romney when reality was +23. The Louisiana sample is +3 Obama in a state Obama lost by 17, and the North Carolina sample is +7 Obama in a state he lost by 3, he notes. Feel free to dismiss it as "right wing media" but it was noteworthy enough for the BBC to mention it (which is where I read it first)

Nate Cohn writes that this can be explained by the "well-known bias toward the victor in post-election surveys. Respondents who voted for the loser often say that they don’t remember whom they supported, or say they supported someone else". This seems rather far-fetched to me however, considering polls show Romney victories in hypothetical re-votes and that the President is considerably underwater in the opinion polls, particularly in these states. It would seem the results of this poll, then, cannot amount for much.

The presidential vote question was asked of all adults. The 2014 election questions were asked of only registered voters.
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is this the worst post in the history of Atlas? on: April 23, 2014, 10:44:37 pm
Your entire "infractions for trolling" policy is entirely based on what you consider good and bad posts.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is this the worst post in the history of Atlas? on: April 23, 2014, 10:41:53 pm
I don't infract for what people consider a "good" or "bad" post and don't plan on doing so

rofl
20  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Can we ban Oldiesfreak now? on: April 23, 2014, 09:49:22 pm
X Lief (and you know how opposed I am to banning people)
21  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: SCOTUS upholds Michigan affirmative action ban on: April 23, 2014, 09:24:26 pm
Majority of Supreme Court justices continue to have no idea how racism works. Hopefully Obama and Clinton can put a few more wise Latinas on the court who actually understand the real world.
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Favourite latest post by previous poster on: April 23, 2014, 09:20:18 pm
No, why would you even suggest this?

He disrespected my homie.
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is this the worst post in the history of Atlas? on: April 23, 2014, 09:08:55 pm
I don't even understand what his idea of what is supposed to happen is. The rapist and the victim share custody of the child? The rapist is forced to take the child every other weekend? What the hell. And if the mother puts up the child for adoption, like Oldies suggests, what happens to the rapist? Does he have to give money to the family that adopts the kid? Beyond being disgusting, it's just such stupid nonsense.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is this the worst post in the history of Atlas? on: April 23, 2014, 08:53:10 pm
Please let me clarify my statement.  If a woman becomes pregnant as a result of rape, then allowing her to have an abortion sends the message to her rapist that he bears no responsibility or consequence for abusing and impregnating her.  If the woman doesn't want the baby, then she should give it up for adoption and get the rapist out of her life.  And since many rapes go unreported, it's possible the rapist won't even face criminal charges.  So when the woman fails to report the rape, becomes pregnant, and has an abortion, then the rapist goes free while the woman is scarred for life.  It's not fair and it's not right, and it is, very simply, an exploitation of women.

No, you're the one that wants to exploit women's bodies, forcing them to carry a nine-month-long constant reminder of their trauma (which will include sickness, inability to work for some period, painful labor, the financial costs of pregnancy, etc.) all in some ridiculous nonsensical attempt to punish rapists, when we already have legal frameworks that can accomplish that goal without physically violating a woman for another nine months.
25  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Shepard Smith on: April 23, 2014, 08:04:55 pm
Epic HP who never checks his facts.  I remember one of his "This Day in History" segments when he talked about Reagan's first debate with Mondale in 1984 and called him "then Governor Reagan."  He also referred to ADHD as "HDHD", among other laughable mistakes.

Well, at least he's not a vile misogynist.
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