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49801  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Alternate Marijuana Legalization Bill on: December 22, 2004, 02:20:10 am
The word 'control' should be replaced by 'regulate' in section 2. Control implies that the government will be the ones doing the manufacturing.
...and selling, which would make the sales tax highly redundant.

Age limit - I'd advocate 16. I'd do the same for Alcohol and Cigarettes.

Re: JFK. Yeah, those studies. Virtually all practitioners in the field agree that this is because schizophrenics self-medicate with Marijuana (not that it helps, in the long run.)
49802  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Most Ignored State on: December 22, 2004, 02:12:59 am
Delaware can't possibly be the most ignored state because of all the attention it's getting on this thread Smiley

Besides, isn't Joe Biden from Delaware? He's a decently well-known senator, right? And whether it's because I'm from Maryland or not, I know Ruth Ann Minner is the recently re-elected governor there. And I also know it's where a lot of companies choose to incorporate, and that it's dominated by the northern Wilmington county, a fact which has been discussed on this site before.

I'll agree with Bono and Bob... Idaho has its Mike Crapo, North Dakota is Byron Dorgan, Montana is Judy Martz, Nebraska its Cornhuskers, while not distinctly political, still a team of distinction. Wyoming has nothing.
Uh - Dick Cheney?
49803  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Gregoire by 8 votes on: December 22, 2004, 02:10:02 am
"Sometimes you have to cheat to get ahead!"

Washington has much cleaner elections than Florida.
Afghanistan has much cleaner elections than Florida. Or, me fears, than Washington.
49804  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: From another board re: The South on: December 22, 2004, 02:05:01 am
heck I even have black people in my classes.
There's a little telltale word here...
49805  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: New Test on: December 22, 2004, 02:00:55 am
As predictable...
Third Way
49806  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Alcon For Congress Thread! on: December 22, 2004, 01:54:30 am
- John cannot dance.
Sure he can.
49807  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: StevenNick press conference on: December 22, 2004, 01:51:02 am
Steve: I don't mind you as SoFA if you act in a non-partisan way.

I plan to do just that, Al.  In fact, the report that I am currently preparing in regards to voting regulations has vast implications in the disputed district 4 senate election that republicans will not be entirely pleased with.

Looking forward with interest to what you have to say! I have some ideas of my own, but I'm waiting until I'm sworn in and the Senate backog is gone before I present them. What you have to say will impact what I push for in the Senate.
Very glad to hear that, from both of you.

Oh, one thing: Effectively, our current law already requires constant reregistration - at the ballot box, every four months.
49808  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Kerry Loses 31 Elector Votes? on: December 22, 2004, 01:33:30 am
Article says the votes were cast for John F Kerry, and "only" the certified document is wrong...LOL.
49809  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: NEW: Progressive Caucus on: December 21, 2004, 05:41:17 am
We're now in the process of electing a chairman, and could maybe all the members turn up to actually vote? Smiley
That'd be superb. Thanks.
49810  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation of StevenNick for SoFA on: December 21, 2004, 05:32:35 am
I'm sure that StevenNick will use Fritz's precendents to govern elections
Well, he hasn't said he would...
49811  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Alcon For Congress Thread! on: December 21, 2004, 05:23:18 am
Oh, and you notice the only Congressman John you could run against is Senator John F Kennedy, don't you?

Remember that "election" in which John the Troll got "elected" to the "House"?

I suppose if you don't, then you wouldn't know what this is about.
Yeah, I noticed which John he's talking about, although I was a little slow in noticing. But I think he should run for Senate. Smiley
49812  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Favorite Quotes on: December 21, 2004, 05:02:08 am
"Yossarian had done his best to warn him the night before. "You haven't got a chance, kid" he had told him glumly. "They hate Jews."

"But I'm not Jewish", answered Clevinger.

"It will make no difference", Yossarian promised, and Yossarian was right. "They're after everybody."

I'm reareading this book currently... Cheesy

I love Catch-22.. it is worth re-reading several times.  Not a bad movie either.

I unfortunately never got a chance to finish it, was very busy around the time I was reading it.
Nothing could be as important as finishing to read this book. Go back to it this instant.
49813  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: am i really a republican? on: December 21, 2004, 04:59:51 am
Yes, you're a republican and a good one at that Wink
That's an oxymoron. Smiley

You're a good man, a misguided soul, and a Republican voter.
49814  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Alcon For Congress Thread! on: December 21, 2004, 04:53:16 am
Oh, and you notice the only Congressman John you could run against is Senator John F Kennedy, don't you?
49815  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Alcon For Congress Thread! on: December 21, 2004, 04:51:51 am
As mayor of Thunder Hawk for the past four years,
For these past eight years, I have represented the values of Thunder Hawk
Uh...now how long?
Alcon's beautiful wife and two pictureesque children come out, along with kittens and ice cream cones are handed out.
You're fourteen and got two children? Right.
49816  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is opebo a libertarian? on: December 20, 2004, 01:26:27 pm
Opebo isn't a libertarian. He is an Opeboist, its a cross between a Conservative, Liberal, Libertarian, and Populist...
...not to forget Libertine... Smiley
49817  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: I'm ON drugs! on: December 20, 2004, 01:23:28 pm
Ohhhhh.... I'm in ON-5! I'm in a bloody district with _WINDSOR_. I've never even been to Windsor.

I think I'd rather have Norfolk county be placed in ON-7. At least then we'd be with Haldimand, and we could get outvoted by the cities TOGETHER. Cheesy
That doesn't sound too reasonable - what territory are you going to shift out of ON-7 in exchange?
But I don't like those 5th and 6th districts either. Maybe you could cut them on East-West lines instead?
49818  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: San Francisco gun ban on: December 20, 2004, 01:03:57 pm
This is a very insignificant government interference with freedom compared to the ban on prostitution, drugs, and gay marriage.

Alas, I do not think that even San Fransico has legalized these basic rights.
They've tried on the last one, and I think they would on the others if they saw a chance - though quite possibly not to the extent you advocate.
49819  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Future Presidents on: December 20, 2004, 01:01:00 pm
I wonder if that pro-Kerry troll HennessyXO is related to that pro-Kerry troll cognacXO
Unlikely. Smiley They had different avatars IIRC. Smiley
49820  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Campaign / Re: Best President, Not Candidate on: December 20, 2004, 12:56:15 pm
I don't think it's good for the US to continue to have only White presidents.
So, no.

Take that up with the electorate, we can't help you. Smiley
Are you not a part of the electorate? Smiley
49821  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is opebo a libertarian? on: December 20, 2004, 12:53:40 pm
No. Not at all. For once he believes in the Marxist view of the economy.
So do all economic Conservatives.
How so?
Marxism and "Neoliberalism", and, to a lesser extent Keynesianism all share the fallacious belief that it is possible to attain and maintain an economic equilibrium in which all demand is met, all supply is used and everything has been fairly priced (the definition of a fair price being the price it would fetch in such a situation).
49822  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Citizens for Nym90 advertisment on: December 20, 2004, 12:47:53 pm
Why not? Smiley
49823  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Voting Regulations Amendment on: December 20, 2004, 12:44:48 pm
This amendment is to open to interpretation. Make the requirements airtight. No editing of a vote or post. if the post says <edited, etc> at the bottom it is void. Also, let votes be deleted up until the booth closes, and allow voters to recast their vote until the booth closes. Lock the voting booth the second it closes and tally the votes then.

I agree.  If we allow posts to be edited then we'll be opening up a can of worms.  Unless somebody is paying close attention, we may not always be able to tell when the vote has been edited.  That part of the amendment may just be a prescription for more voting chaos as anytime a post has been edited it will have to proven whether or not the vote has been changed.  Better to say that if any post has been edited, the vote contained therein will not be counted.  That saves us all a lot of trouble.
But then allowing people to delete and recast?
That's absurd. By allowing that practice to stand, we've given up what the no-editing rule was supposed to be about anyhow. Same thing with the four-month rule and allowing people to reregister elsewhere under a new name.
Have an airtight rule, or don't have the rule.
49824  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who are some of your political heroes? on: December 20, 2004, 12:41:16 pm
No 'political' heroes to speak of - it is a sad country that needs heroes as politicians.

Some literary/political guys I admire, though...
Orwell, Seume, Büchner,...
49825  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Favorite Quotes on: December 20, 2004, 12:37:52 pm
Another nice Orwell quote, also from The Road to Wigan Pier:
"A middle-class child is taught almost simultaneously to wash his neck, to be ready to die for his country, and to despise the 'lower classes'."
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