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49801  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: StevenNick press conference on: December 22, 2004, 01:51:02 am
Steve: I don't mind you as SoFA if you act in a non-partisan way.

I plan to do just that, Al.  In fact, the report that I am currently preparing in regards to voting regulations has vast implications in the disputed district 4 senate election that republicans will not be entirely pleased with.

Looking forward with interest to what you have to say! I have some ideas of my own, but I'm waiting until I'm sworn in and the Senate backog is gone before I present them. What you have to say will impact what I push for in the Senate.
Very glad to hear that, from both of you.


Oh, one thing: Effectively, our current law already requires constant reregistration - at the ballot box, every four months.
49802  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Kerry Loses 31 Elector Votes? on: December 22, 2004, 01:33:30 am
Article says the votes were cast for John F Kerry, and "only" the certified document is wrong...LOL.
49803  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: NEW: Progressive Caucus on: December 21, 2004, 05:41:17 am
We're now in the process of electing a chairman, and could maybe all the members turn up to actually vote? Smiley
That'd be superb. Thanks.
49804  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation of StevenNick for SoFA on: December 21, 2004, 05:32:35 am
I'm sure that StevenNick will use Fritz's precendents to govern elections
Well, he hasn't said he would...
49805  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Alcon For Congress Thread! on: December 21, 2004, 05:23:18 am
Oh, and you notice the only Congressman John you could run against is Senator John F Kennedy, don't you?

Remember that "election" in which John the Troll got "elected" to the "House"?

I suppose if you don't, then you wouldn't know what this is about.
Yeah, I noticed which John he's talking about, although I was a little slow in noticing. But I think he should run for Senate. Smiley
49806  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Favorite Quotes on: December 21, 2004, 05:02:08 am
"Yossarian had done his best to warn him the night before. "You haven't got a chance, kid" he had told him glumly. "They hate Jews."

"But I'm not Jewish", answered Clevinger.

"It will make no difference", Yossarian promised, and Yossarian was right. "They're after everybody."

I'm reareading this book currently... Cheesy

I love Catch-22.. it is worth re-reading several times.  Not a bad movie either.

I unfortunately never got a chance to finish it, was very busy around the time I was reading it.
Nothing could be as important as finishing to read this book. Go back to it this instant.
49807  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: am i really a republican? on: December 21, 2004, 04:59:51 am
Yes, you're a republican and a good one at that Wink
That's an oxymoron. Smiley

You're a good man, a misguided soul, and a Republican voter.
49808  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Alcon For Congress Thread! on: December 21, 2004, 04:53:16 am
Oh, and you notice the only Congressman John you could run against is Senator John F Kennedy, don't you?
49809  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Alcon For Congress Thread! on: December 21, 2004, 04:51:51 am
As mayor of Thunder Hawk for the past four years,
...
For these past eight years, I have represented the values of Thunder Hawk
Uh...now how long?
Quote
Alcon's beautiful wife and two pictureesque children come out, along with kittens and ice cream cones are handed out.
You're fourteen and got two children? Right.
49810  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is opebo a libertarian? on: December 20, 2004, 01:26:27 pm
Opebo isn't a libertarian. He is an Opeboist, its a cross between a Conservative, Liberal, Libertarian, and Populist...
...not to forget Libertine... Smiley
49811  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: I'm ON drugs! on: December 20, 2004, 01:23:28 pm
Ohhhhh.... I'm in ON-5! I'm in a bloody district with _WINDSOR_. I've never even been to Windsor.

I think I'd rather have Norfolk county be placed in ON-7. At least then we'd be with Haldimand, and we could get outvoted by the cities TOGETHER. Cheesy
That doesn't sound too reasonable - what territory are you going to shift out of ON-7 in exchange?
But I don't like those 5th and 6th districts either. Maybe you could cut them on East-West lines instead?
49812  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: San Francisco gun ban on: December 20, 2004, 01:03:57 pm
This is a very insignificant government interference with freedom compared to the ban on prostitution, drugs, and gay marriage.

Alas, I do not think that even San Fransico has legalized these basic rights.
They've tried on the last one, and I think they would on the others if they saw a chance - though quite possibly not to the extent you advocate.
49813  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Future Presidents on: December 20, 2004, 01:01:00 pm
I wonder if that pro-Kerry troll HennessyXO is related to that pro-Kerry troll cognacXO
Unlikely. Smiley They had different avatars IIRC. Smiley
49814  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Campaign / Re: Best President, Not Candidate on: December 20, 2004, 12:56:15 pm
I don't think it's good for the US to continue to have only White presidents.
So, no.

Take that up with the electorate, we can't help you. Smiley
Are you not a part of the electorate? Smiley
49815  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is opebo a libertarian? on: December 20, 2004, 12:53:40 pm
No. Not at all. For once he believes in the Marxist view of the economy.
So do all economic Conservatives.
How so?
Marxism and "Neoliberalism", and, to a lesser extent Keynesianism all share the fallacious belief that it is possible to attain and maintain an economic equilibrium in which all demand is met, all supply is used and everything has been fairly priced (the definition of a fair price being the price it would fetch in such a situation).
49816  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Citizens for Nym90 advertisment on: December 20, 2004, 12:47:53 pm
Why not? Smiley
49817  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Voting Regulations Amendment on: December 20, 2004, 12:44:48 pm
This amendment is to open to interpretation. Make the requirements airtight. No editing of a vote or post. if the post says <edited, etc> at the bottom it is void. Also, let votes be deleted up until the booth closes, and allow voters to recast their vote until the booth closes. Lock the voting booth the second it closes and tally the votes then.

I agree.  If we allow posts to be edited then we'll be opening up a can of worms.  Unless somebody is paying close attention, we may not always be able to tell when the vote has been edited.  That part of the amendment may just be a prescription for more voting chaos as anytime a post has been edited it will have to proven whether or not the vote has been changed.  Better to say that if any post has been edited, the vote contained therein will not be counted.  That saves us all a lot of trouble.
But then allowing people to delete and recast?
That's absurd. By allowing that practice to stand, we've given up what the no-editing rule was supposed to be about anyhow. Same thing with the four-month rule and allowing people to reregister elsewhere under a new name.
Have an airtight rule, or don't have the rule.
49818  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who are some of your political heroes? on: December 20, 2004, 12:41:16 pm
No 'political' heroes to speak of - it is a sad country that needs heroes as politicians.

Some literary/political guys I admire, though...
Orwell, Seume, Büchner,...
49819  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Favorite Quotes on: December 20, 2004, 12:37:52 pm
Another nice Orwell quote, also from The Road to Wigan Pier:
"A middle-class child is taught almost simultaneously to wash his neck, to be ready to die for his country, and to despise the 'lower classes'."
49820  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is opebo a libertarian? on: December 20, 2004, 12:34:22 pm
No. Not at all. For once he believes in the Marxist view of the economy.
So do all economic Conservatives.
49821  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: New popular vote totals on: December 20, 2004, 12:31:41 pm
Maybe the King County fraud machine is at it again.  Can Dem officials there "find" another 3 million Kerry votes.  Stay tuned.  I wouldn't bet against them.
That would NOT be the place I'd like them to find them...It wouldn't change who got elected.
Maybe Greg Pallast can dig up three mio. uncounted Kerry votes in a Florida garbage dump? Smiley
Actually, if I could distribute three million extra Kerry votes any way I see fit, they'd be enough to swing Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, Iowa, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and Alaska for a 432-106 electoral blowout. There may be some slightly better combination to give Kerry even more EVs, I didn't check closely.
49822  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Is Alaska a solidly Republican state like Idaho? on: December 20, 2004, 12:06:54 pm
Lewis, considering that the government has lots of money, the most libertarian position is truly to give it to the people rather than build bridges or whatever.

I've been to Alaska and I vote 4.
The most libertarian position would be to have never given that money to the government in the first place.

Oil companies are the reason that Alaska has that money. The people didn't give it to the government thus they are getting paid by the government even though they didn't pay in. Alaska has no income tax, no sales tax, and gives its citizens the excess money from its coffers. That sounds pretty Libertarian to me.
That is a pretty shortsighted view though - since the fact remains that the Oil Companies are paying that money.
49823  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Favorite Quotes on: December 20, 2004, 11:59:11 am
"The price of Liberty is not so much Eternal Vigilance as Eternal Dirt." George Orwell
49824  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Debate For Northeast Legislature on: December 20, 2004, 11:42:08 am
Okay here is all you need to know about the adjutant General:

ITS AN ENTIRELY FICTIONAL POST. NO REAL ATLASIA WILL FILL THE POST UNLESS THE GUARD IS CALLED UP AT WHICH TIME THE GOVERNOR WILL APPOINT SOMEONE TO LEAD THE GUARD.

Now stop with the questions about the Adjutant General.
Nah, I was talking to Ernest about the SC Adjutant General, not apparently a fictional post.
49825  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Nice quiz on: December 20, 2004, 11:26:01 am
Economic Left/Right: -5.50 / Social Libertarian Authoritarian: -1.69

Dave
Nah, I didn't mean that. (Our economic scores are fairly alike, btw, tho' our social ones aren't.)
There's a frame at the side, somewhere below "Take the Test" that says "Iconochasms". A pretty cool quiz of the "Whose quote is this?" type.
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