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49801  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Most Ignored State on: December 20, 2004, 08:44:20 am
Nebraska is the most ignored by population total of these. Smiley

I recently saw a state map somewhere that looked kind of wrong, and it took me a moment to figure it out:
It had been copied from Colour to Black-and-White, and Florida, Maryland and Delaware must've all been in very light shades before - it looked as if they simply weren't there.
49802  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: National Map of County Swings on: December 20, 2004, 08:40:40 am
Look again.

Ye Olde Berkshire County trended for Kerry.
And so did Franklin, Hampshire, Nantucket and Dukes.
49803  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: National Map of County Swings on: December 20, 2004, 08:39:30 am
Blue equals Republican on this map.
Southeastern Pennsylvania is all red btw. Smiley
49804  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: My UK Election Predictions on: December 20, 2004, 08:35:38 am
Peter, First off good analysis… on Leicester South did you make a typo? Or does it read as it should it just seems a bit confused
I guess it's a typo.
49805  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Pennsylvania is now 51-48 on: December 20, 2004, 08:23:23 am
A recount just would have given Kerry a bigger margin.
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Hmmm.  Why is it that a recount would automatically give Kerry a bigger margin?  Does this tell us something about the people recounting? the intelligence of the voters?  the ability to 'divine' voter intent?
The education of the voters.
49806  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2000 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: A Real Free for All on: December 20, 2004, 08:21:12 am
What's Lamar Alexander doing there? He ran in 1996, not in 2000, by my knowledge.
49807  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Arizona on: December 20, 2004, 08:10:59 am
The politics of the political parties changed more than the politics of the states. Vermont + Massachusetts used to be solid republican states. South Carolina was 98% democratic in the 40's. Civil rights was one of the main reasons for the flip.

MA was a Democrat state since 1928. Vermont's change wasn't as clear-cut, but the slide to the Democratic party began during the 1950s.

And how many times will the lie that the Civil Rights movement caused the South to vote GOP be repeated?? In 1948, the South went with the Dixiecrats; in the '50s and '60s, they voted for "Unpledged Democrat Electors." The only GOP vote was Goldwater in '64, then the next election they went with Wallace. Discounting Nixon's '72 win, the South single-handedly elected Jimmy Carter, a Democrat.

If anything, the South tried every conceivable mean to avoid voting Republican in 40 years.


Yes...but then, there's reasons for that too. And they did not vote for "unpledged Democrat Electors in the '50s and '60s" - there were such slates, especially in Alabama, but mostly they split between those staying true to the Democrats and those voting Republican.
49808  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Last election between two candidates who would've both been great presidents on: December 20, 2004, 08:08:09 am
Lowering the standard to "good": 1976.
I'm not sure where "great" begins...maybe 1860, counting only the Northern candidates.
49809  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: New Post a Picture of Yourself on: December 20, 2004, 07:56:53 am
God has better things to do than worry about sexual practices of people.

Obviously you've never read any scripture whatsoever.

A truly just God would have better things to do than worry about sexual practices of people.  Not everything in the bible is true, and if it was we should all be stoning you for posting messages on a Sunday!

***This will be my last post in this and we are getting back on topic.***

Christians are not bound by the old laws of moses and the Sabbath is on Saturday anyhow. Sunday is a CHRISTIAN day that has no signifigance to Jews.


Sunday is a HEATHEN ROMAN day that has no significance to Jews.
Obviously whether it's Saturday or Sunday or Wednesday (like the Essenes did, and some believe Jesus did) doen't matter one bit as long as it's every seventh day.
49810  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Poll on Democratic Hawk's Vote on: December 20, 2004, 07:32:08 am
Democratic Hawk wouldn't have made the mistakes that he did if he thought that they would cause his vote to not count; the fact that such things had been allowed in the past led him to believe that editing his post only and not his vote would not be a problem.
Do you know this for sure? Or are you just making claims for the sake of argument here? I had figured he was just a very uninformed voter...
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These are just FANTASY elections after all and thus we shouldn't disenfranchise people just for making clearly well-intentioned mistakes.
Very wise words.
49811  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Poll on Democratic Hawk's Vote on: December 20, 2004, 07:28:11 am
There was not a Supreme Court case, but the SOFA allowed such votes to stand in June, and no one even challenged it to the Court as there was a pretty wide spread consensus that this was the right decision (at least in public statements, perhaps some people opposed these votes being counted but didn't want to publically state their views).

Public opinion is irrelevant, the reason it wasnt challenged was because it wouldnt have affected the outcome of the election.
This may be very well true, and I would have understood very well if the supreme court had ruled Hawk's vote invalid.
But the SOFA should have stuck to his own precedent.

Not that it matters now, this thing is over, and I'd like to congratulate WMS on his victory.
49812  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: County Map... Finished! on: December 20, 2004, 07:23:07 am
As an observation, I was the only voter in this election from Louisiana and did not vote for Harry.

While I can clearly understand New Orleans and surrounding Democrat counties going for Harry, chances are the Southwest LA counties would not, otherwise Harry would probably win the state.

Why did Winn Parish go Democrat in northern LA?  I can understand Caddo and Red River Parish in northern LA going Democrat, but probably not Winn.
An in joke to do with its most famous son perhaps?
49813  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Harry Concession Speech on: December 20, 2004, 07:16:22 am
You ran a great campaign Senator.  It is sad to see you leave the Senate.  Best of luck in future endeavors.
He'll be back.
49814  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your website/blog on: December 18, 2004, 10:31:55 am
I have some webspace somewhere but I haven't got a clue how you use that. It came with my Uni free email account.
49815  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Members gone missing... on: December 18, 2004, 10:30:47 am
I'd like to see Bullmoose come back. He was one of my favorite posters...
I hope he still is interested in politics enough to vote.
No, he's not. I canvassed him for Hugh in the presidentials, and he replied he hadn't followed the campaign and felt it would be dishonest to vote now.
Oops - you meant Pennsylvania politics. Smiley
49816  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: vote to override the Marijuana Legalization Veto on: December 18, 2004, 10:28:42 am
Then pass an amendment to abolish such a silly rule. All that does is make "abstain" another way of saying "no." What else is the difference?
On an overrride, that is indeed the case, in the real US too IIRC.
49817  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Pennsylvania is now 51-48 on: December 18, 2004, 10:26:45 am
You know what bugs me just a teeny little bit...?
As more complete figures became available, Kerry has cut Bush's lead from about 2.9% on election night to about 2.5% now. BUT in absolute numbers, Bush has made 62 Mio, as some have been speculation right since election day, while Kerry is still 5000-odd votes from the 59 Mio mark Sad with only five more state results to become official (Me, NH, RI, Ct, In - what is it about New England election law that makes them slow in coming?)
49818  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Resignation on: December 18, 2004, 10:04:48 am
you are streatching the main page asshole
Yeah, I know, I just wanted to see it.
I'll change it in a minute.
49819  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Campaign / Re: Best President, Not Candidate on: December 18, 2004, 10:03:53 am
I don't think it's good for the US to continue to have only White presidents.
So, no.
49820  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: vote to override the Marijuana Legalization Veto on: December 18, 2004, 09:56:04 am
Its actions like these by certain Senators that really wind me up.

Bono, you knew full well that this bill does not have anything approaching broad support and that if it achieved passage it would cause a legal crisis, and yet you have persisted in pushing this bill. You have just lost my respect.

As information to Senators:

Before casting your vote, bear this in mind: If the override passes by the same majority, i.e. 3-1-5, then that will constitute a two-thirds majority under the precedent that JFK has set on my advice. There is no doubt that this will then end in Court (something I would prefer to avoid) if this bill makes it into Law.
Would Senators be able to state that they won't vote, or would that be counted as a blank vote?
We of the Pacific region administration have determined just a few days back - also on the matter of a marijuana vote - that abstentions do not count as votes, and that 5-3 with one abstention was a veto-proof majority (this requires 60% consent, according to the Pacific constitution.) Not that this mattered in this case, since the governor wouldn't have vetoed the bill anyways.


Ah - Pete's comment has just come in. Yes, that is what we had in mind when the Constitution was new.
49821  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: My Version of the Marijuana Legalization Act on: December 18, 2004, 09:51:50 am
§ 1 The possession, sale and consumption of marijuana and the plants needed for its processing, shall not be criminalized by the federal government of Atlasia.

§ 2 All federal activities related with it shall be imediately shut down, and the money currently aproppriated to them shall be used to pay off the national debt.

§ 3 All convicts by federal courts of the crimes repealed on this bill, shall be given amnesty to the punishment awarded to them by the said courts.

I must say (tho it's a wee bit late now) that I very much support §1 and  especially §3 (I LOVE that one!), but that this bill is in dire need of some regulation and taxation provisions.
49822  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Resignation on: December 18, 2004, 09:46:00 am
And thus the composition of the cabinet takes a hard right turn.
Smiley
49823  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: County Map on: December 18, 2004, 09:36:22 am
Should be finished by either late tonight or tomorrow morning (GMT)
Didn't get posted though. Angry
49824  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: NO MORE NAMES CHANGES!!!!!!!!!! on: December 18, 2004, 09:33:18 am
So you want me to drop my Alias then?
49825  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Arrest Warrant for the Shooting of KEmperor on: December 18, 2004, 09:30:54 am
I surrender.
You have the right to an attorney. You have the right to remain silent. If King beats you up in custody, do not hesitate to contact your attorney and press charges.
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