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49801  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Note to NixonNow on: December 22, 2004, 06:04:25 am
Mike, we know you're hiding behind silentmajority37.
He's not "hiding".
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And take down the Nym for Prez forum on your site. For one thing, it's idle, and the next, you're tarnishing his reputation.
Smiley
49802  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: What the hell is wrong with Mike Naso? on: December 22, 2004, 06:03:40 am
Mike and I aren't the best of friends but I've spoken with him a few times. He's a good guy. We have our disagreements and there have been times when I have been angry with some of his actions but I think that if you get to talk to him about a subject, you'll realize he's not bad.
Hardly a ringing endorsement...if I put in a "too" before the last word it'd fit NixonNow or even Philip.
49803  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: What the hell is wrong with Mike Naso? on: December 22, 2004, 06:01:24 am
I do not spike my hair, or wear baggy pants, tattoos or piercing, except for one in the left ear.

I like Music from all sorts of ages, and not the crap marketed as punk or rap they play these days.

I love to watch movies.
I share some characteristics with Reaganfan. Does that make me a Conservative? Smiley
49804  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is opebo a libertarian? on: December 22, 2004, 05:57:22 am
You'll never get libertarianism out of democracy.

Sixty-eight percent (68%) of American voters think raising taxes is bad for the economy. Forty-eight percent (48%) of all employees belong to the Investor Class. Sixty-seven percent (67%) of voters support personal retirement accounts if current retirees are fully protected.

What the GOP is trying to build is an ownership society.

The growth of entrepreneurial employment and stock ownership are both good for the GOP.

The ownership society is ego-stroking garbage, trying to convince working class people they're in the same class as their betters.  And all this is completely irrelevant to the aspect of the GOP I care about - the fact that it is controlled by the religious, who want to control my personal life.

this coming from a guy who once said rick santorum would be a good successor to president bush and that john ashcroft was his favorite all time senator.

Yes, Walter Mitty, you have again made your point that I have changed my mind - not exactly news to anyone on this board. 
Huh? What? You've changed your mind? When? Where? Into what? Why did I not receive a News Alert?
49805  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Britsh or English on: December 22, 2004, 05:55:15 am
Scots I've spoken to tend to identify more with being Scottish than British. Similarly the Welsh.
Picture in England is very much different, largely because less than half the population is "pure" English...so many descendants of Scots and Welsh and Irish and Continental immigrants, even among the English speaking White majority. So much mixing, too.
Descendants of post-18th century immigrants are just not likely to identify as English rather than British - something Scottish nationalists find hard to grasp.

Well, the cause of the confusion is actually hard for any nationalist to understand - Nations do not necessarily lie next to each other.
Britain is a nation consisting of Scotland, England etc.
Scotland is a nation too.
It's impossible for both to have their nation state.
49806  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: From another board re: The South on: December 22, 2004, 05:48:26 am
Well I lived in Far Rockaway. All black.  My family moved because the neighborhood was getting too rough and robberies were rampant.  I actually grew up in Long Beach, NY.  A good party, drinking community on the Ocean.  The city is very segregated though.  I lived in the "west end" which was majority Irish with  Italians and Germans.  A christian area basically.  Going east along the ocean you have the Jewish area- Orthodox, reform and hasid who all hate each other:)  On the other side- the bay side you have the hispanic and black community.  We didn't go to the "black area" to hang out and they did not come to our part of town to party.  Then again we beat up a lot more "out of towners" than any race.  Most towns are segregated around these parts is my overall message. Al, look it up on fair data you can probably tell the different neighborhoods by socioecon.  11561.

Long Beach: Blacks heavily concentrated in a small area in the North Central part of the city. Hispanics centred on the same area, but spread out more throught the rest of the city. The Black/Hispanic area has higher poverty rates than the rest of the city and much lower Median HH Income.

Nassau county has a serious segregation problem: Map
Yes.
But then, America has a serious segregation problem.
49807  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Gregoire by 8 votes on: December 22, 2004, 05:41:58 am
Nice thread hijack we've executed here. Smiley
49808  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Gregoire by 8 votes on: December 22, 2004, 04:04:37 am
But I've never heard there are any problem with the most basic points, ie, the voter register, the actual counting of votes, the prevention of ballot box stuffing...at least not since the Army marched in 35 years ago.

The problem in Northern Ireland is "Vote Early, Vote Often"...
So they do have ballot box stuffing?
49809  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The National Atlasian: Keeping You Informed on: December 22, 2004, 04:03:06 am
Obviously I don't blame you at all for not knowing all that stuff. You've only been around two months, after all.
49810  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The National Atlasian: Keeping You Informed on: December 22, 2004, 04:02:03 am
Mr. Bell has his hands full. He is the hardworking Attorney General, the Candidate for Northeast Governor and he’s looking into a presidential run. He has a good chance of winning the Governors race and being a well respected member of the forum he may do well in any Presidential race if he runs. Mr. Bell is a left leaning independent which makes his status as a presidential candidate rather odd. If he does runs he is likely to get few first preference votes since the Centre-Left is a very small contingency and Hugh Bartlett is also probably running for President as a Centre-Leftist. If the AFDNC nominates Mr. Bell then people more on the far left may feel like Mr. Bell does not represent their views and may run another candidate, but the effect that this will have is practically nil since most if not all the second preference votes would go to Mr. Bell. The main problem is would the AFDNC be willing to endorse a candidate who is outside of the AFDNC, an Independent and a man has long been associated with the UAC. If the AFDNC does think that he can unify the left and bring in Centrist votes then he may be the lefts candidate. The problem would be would he bring in Centrist votes? While he may get second preference from the likes of Nation and Hugh it seems rather far fetched to think that the mainstream Union or Freedom Party voter would vote for Mr. Bell over President Brunsel. But then again nobody thought that True Democrat could win in a contest with Andrew and nobody thought that The Bulldog could get within one vote of beating Chris Soult so it a moderate leftist
Oh, I did. But that's beside the point...
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like Mr. Bell may be able to win over enough support to win.
The point being...
Here's Pete's political affiliation history:
-Only person on the original register to be registered as neither Democratic nor Republican but Independent.
-Voted for Nym in the first election
-Set up the Progressive Party with Dunn (RIP), ILikeVerin and me
-Left us to set up the UAC with JFK, ILikeVerin, Gustaf, Andrew...UAC promptly overrun by Republicans
-Proclaimed himself a "Centrist for Nym" in the second presidential election
-Switched to the Democrats almost immediately after the election
-Was rather inactive for the better part of three months
-Switched registration to Independent
-Voted Al as first preference, PB over Harry in the third presidentials, explaining he based his decisions on character not policy.
-Currently active in setting up the Progressive Caucus.

You really think the Far Left disapproves of him?
And, more to the point:
You really think we'd approve of him more as a Democrat than as an Independent?
Think again.
49811  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The National Atlasian: Keeping You Informed on: December 22, 2004, 03:52:18 am
Ignore part of my post since a partial count has already been done.
49812  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The National Atlasian: Keeping You Informed on: December 22, 2004, 03:50:43 am
Candidates Line Up
With the Presidential Races in Two Months Parties Search for the Man Who Can Beat PBrunsel

Peter Bell and Hugh have both announced their candidacies in the past week while Nym90 seem to be on the verge of announcing his bid for the Presidency. This is all in an attempt to bring down a President who appears close to becoming Atlasia’s first two term President. AFDNC Interim Chairman Alex Knobel said that “The Left must be united,” and that “Nym could do it. Siege could do it.” But it is also a matter of who runs. If the UL puts out a candidate, especially if they produce a Siege40/Trondheim ticket, they could have even more success than Al did in the last elections.
Thank you. Smiley
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Also a new party on the left, the Farmer Labor Party, has a few people how could try for a run. While the AFDNC may be looking for a unified left their chances are being reduced by the amount of candidates that are being brought up. Also centre-leftist Hugh Bartlett has said today that he will run for President as an Independent affiliated with MAMA. It still has to be seen if Hugh can bring in any more support than his last run though he seems to be relegated to second or third preference. While some have said that PBrunsel is a do nothing as President he is widely popular and has a good shot at not only getting the AFRNC nomination but also the Freedom Party nomination. In the Centre some have been whispering about an Ernest/Andrew ticket although their has not been any official word from either Ernest, Andrew, or the Union Party about any Presidential plans. Although the AFDNC has been working toward this united left theory it has to be said that most of Al’s votes in the last Presidential Election went to Harry after Al was eliminated so the left has been united for a long while.
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I'd have to do a proper count but I'm not sure that's true. Lots of ULers preferenced Hugh and/or Nation above Harry. Two didn't list Harry (nor PB) at all.
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This is sure to be an interesting electoral season as more people come into the race. 
49813  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: From another board re: The South on: December 22, 2004, 03:45:57 am
I will say it again: Segregation is a lot worse in the North.  Dazzleman; a very good and intelligent poster, noted how he could go without having to go into a black neighborhood his whole life.
Might've something to do with lower overall Black populations, though...especially with MUCH lower rural Black populations - which, in turn, derive from - ah, but you know that. Smiley
By which, of course, I am not saying the North doesn't have a residential segregation problem. Quite the opposite.

If enough black people move into a community, the white people move out.
Yes...but don't think that is any different in Southern cities. They have the overt racism to boot, not instead.
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That is the awful truth here in SE NY.  I lived and my parents were raised in Rockaway NY.  They lived in the "Projects" which were pretty nice at the time but Mayor Lindsay and his city planning idiots decided that they were going to remake the city.  My family was removed from the projects because they made too much money. My Grandmother and a few of her five daughters worked so it was decided that they should me removed from the projects.  My Grandmother, a huge liberal, took the city to Court and argued that they were going to create a ghetto out of the area by forcing out middle class people black and white. The city didn't listen and the area is now a warzone.
Yeah, Socialist stupidity...Giving flats in Housing Projects only to those who need subsidized housing is all very fine, but forcing people to move out as soon as they don't need it any more is hurtful - it's destabilizing the neighborhood. We've had experiments with that in Frankfurt as well - not evicting those who earn too much, but raising their rent to the point where they could find something in a nicer neighborhood for the same price or less. It should be a planning aim to have rich people live right next to poor people. 
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I grew up in a Mixed community but it was more segregated than any southern town would be.
How so.
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  Segregation is done by stelth up here but it is the same.  All realtors have their code words.
Yes, but don't think this is any different in the Southern cities. They have the overt - but I'm starting to sound like a broken record. Smiley
49814  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: From another board re: The South on: December 22, 2004, 03:37:03 am
How much do those guys pay you? Smiley
49815  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Gregoire by 8 votes on: December 22, 2004, 03:35:51 am
Western European elections do not. Face it.

Except Northern Ireland o/c
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They got very high turnout in some areas, very low in others, no doubt due to massive community pressure/intimidation.
But I've never heard there are any problem with the most basic points, ie, the voter register, the actual counting of votes, the prevention of ballot box stuffing...at least not since the Army marched in 35 years ago.
49816  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: What SHOULD the tax burden be? on: December 22, 2004, 03:30:00 am
As much as is necessary. Duh.
49817  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Is raising taxes good for the economy, neutral, or bad? on: December 22, 2004, 03:28:44 am
There is a big difference between government and a business. Business can only get your money if you give it voluntarily in exchange for their services or products.
Not if you need the service or product to live - in which case you only have some very limited choice, nowhere near enough for market conditions to apply.
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By comparison lets look at a government run "business", public schools.
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Of course, if you look at schooling as a business, you have already failed some basic common sense tests.
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to pay for the schools even if you don't have kids and never use the schools.
You did go to school, you have used it. Quite apart from the Social Security and Healthcare costs incurred by low birth rates.
49818  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Is raising taxes good for the economy, neutral, or bad? on: December 22, 2004, 03:24:35 am
This so entirely depends on
-who you're going to tax
-how high they're currently taxed
-what you're going to tax them for
-what they're currently getting taxed for
-what you're going to do with the money
-what you're currently doing with the current tax income
...that, quite apart from "refusing" to answer this overly simplistic poll, it is simply impossible to do so, to have any sort of grasp of the matter, and to remain intellectually honest at the same time.
49819  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: From another board re: The South on: December 22, 2004, 03:19:22 am
I will say it again: Segregation is a lot worse in the North.  Dazzleman; a very good and intelligent poster, noted how he could go without having to go into a black neighborhood his whole life.
Might've something to do with lower overall Black populations, though...especially with MUCH lower rural Black populations - which, in turn, derive from - ah, but you know that. Smiley
By which, of course, I am not saying the North doesn't have a residential segregation problem. Quite the opposite.
49820  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Midgard Chronicle on: December 22, 2004, 02:47:38 am
(It was just north of the border, ernest)

Gregory Hollis shocked by lack of interest
The sole remaining member of the Hollis family of Dallas, TX, which lost two children, an unborn baby and their mother spoke out today about the lack of compassion. In a brief statement released today he csaid that he had seen only very little news coverage and no governmental concern. "After the way we've been ignored by the government, there is no chance of me voting for any any of my senators, governors or Presidents". He was especially concerned about the lack of action the president is taking, and the fact that all survivors of the flight have been ignored.

"This is a national tragedy, but people seem to care more about some nutjob Republican from Iowa". When pressed if he meant John, he replied "Well that's open for interpretation".

This has been a Midgard wire service report.
LOL!
49821  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Santorum and Obama - Who's Next 2005 on: December 22, 2004, 02:43:55 am
I can't help mentioning Newsweek's got a much less flattering photo of Rick up than you do, Phil.
49822  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Gregoire by 8 votes on: December 22, 2004, 02:35:56 am
"Sometimes you have to cheat to get ahead!"

Washington has much cleaner elections than Florida.
Afghanistan has much cleaner elections than Florida. Or, me fears, than Washington.

Way to blow it way out of proportion. Global Dictator makes more sense.
Yeah, I know. Afghanistan was something of an exaggeration. Though my statement is much closer to the truth than "Everything about the way elections are held in Florida is just fine."

Almost every election has its share of dirtiness. Humans aren't perfect and therefore no election can be perfect.
Western European elections do not. Face it.
49823  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Gregoire by 8 votes on: December 22, 2004, 02:23:48 am
"Sometimes you have to cheat to get ahead!"

Washington has much cleaner elections than Florida.
Afghanistan has much cleaner elections than Florida. Or, me fears, than Washington.

Way to blow it way out of proportion. Global Dictator makes more sense.
Yeah, I know. Afghanistan was something of an exaggeration. Though my statement is much closer to the truth than "Everything about the way elections are held in Florida is just fine."
49824  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: From another board re: The South on: December 22, 2004, 02:21:56 am
heck I even have black people in my classes.
There's a little telltale word here...

And what would that little word be?
Well, one might claim there's actually two, but I was referring to "even", not "heck".
49825  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Alternate Marijuana Legalization Bill on: December 22, 2004, 02:20:10 am
The word 'control' should be replaced by 'regulate' in section 2. Control implies that the government will be the ones doing the manufacturing.
...and selling, which would make the sales tax highly redundant.

Age limit - I'd advocate 16. I'd do the same for Alcohol and Cigarettes.

Re: JFK. Yeah, those studies. Virtually all practitioners in the field agree that this is because schizophrenics self-medicate with Marijuana (not that it helps, in the long run.)
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