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51  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / If Trump is to win, when will he take the lead? on: May 12, 2016, 07:49:51 pm
For those of you predicting a Trump victory, when do you think he will take the lead?
52  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump can use Iraq against Hillary in the general on: May 11, 2016, 09:41:36 pm
Now we also know Trump supported the Iraq war in 2002. He's such a fraud.
53  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / TYT: Super delegates need to switch to Sanders IMMEDIATELY on: May 11, 2016, 08:34:54 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_FqAJ8k7oY

So, the clowns are now advocating that super delegates (who they consider undemocratic, no?) override the will of the voters, especially the overwhelming will of Democratic voters (has Sanders won Democrats  in any primary outside of VT & NH?) because Bernie, the candidate who they repeatedly complain gets no media coverage, is doing better than Hillary in GE polling.
54  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: Ipsos/Reuters May 6-10th Clinton +1 on: May 11, 2016, 01:45:40 pm
Ah, another worthless poll with neither candidate cracking 45%. Until there's a well known (or at least well funded) third party candidate, any poll like this is utter trash.
55  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: YouGov- Hillary leads Trump by 2 on: May 11, 2016, 01:43:56 pm
Below 45%=below my standards.
56  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who wins these swing states? May edition on: May 10, 2016, 10:47:32 pm
NM, MN, VA, WI & MI are not swing states. Clinton will carry IA, CO, NV, PA & NH. Trump has a shot at only NC, FL & OH. Of them I'd say NC is the only one where he is slightly favored.
57  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: FL/OH/PA Quinnipiac: Close races everywhere (Trump +4 in OH, Clinton +1 in FL/PA on: May 10, 2016, 11:05:49 am
Pollsters need to start pushing people harder to make a choice, this both candidates below 45% nonsense is getting ridiculous.
58  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: FL/OH/PA Quinnipiac: Close races everywhere (Trump +4 in OH, Clinton +1 in FL/PA on: May 10, 2016, 09:17:37 am
Trump is still down in VA & WI.
59  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: PPP - National horse race: Clinton +4 on: May 09, 2016, 10:56:43 pm
Any poll showing both candidates below 45% is ridiculous, but of course the Trump fetishists will pounce on this.

No, it really isn't.   You have two candidates with high negatives six months out from the election.  A large number of people unwilling to commit to either candidate is exactly what you'd expect.

Then why do the vast majority of polls have Hillary polling between 46% and 54%? 42% is absurd.
60  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: PPP - National horse race: Clinton +4 on: May 09, 2016, 09:12:51 pm
Any poll showing both candidates below 45% is ridiculous, but of course the Trump fetishists will pounce on this.

But not the ones showing Trump below 40% in VA, WI and PA?

I've never mentioned Trump polling below 40% in PA, though he does struggle to break it in VA. Trump has been getting destroyed in WI polling since he began his candidacy. Trump's poor numbers in those states are stable, no reason to disbelieve them. Hillary has consistently polled above 45% in almost every national poll (except for the widely discredited Rasmussen one). So there's no reason to take this poll seriously, everyone who isn't a Trump fetishist would admit her numbers are too low here (as are Trump's, imo).
61  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: PPP - National horse race: Clinton +4 on: May 09, 2016, 09:04:02 pm
Any poll showing both candidates below 45% is ridiculous, but of course the Trump fetishists will pounce on this.
62  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump slams Clinton for "disgraceful" treatment of husband's mistresses on: May 09, 2016, 11:33:45 am
I cant believe Trump would do this.

His political strategy will need another leg on the stool if he is going to get up to where he needs to be.

Clinton should just ignore him, and concentrate on talking about issues without mentioning Trump.

Dukakis ignored Bush's slander and it cost him the Presidency.
63  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: MA: Clinton 55 Trump 31 on: May 09, 2016, 11:02:05 am
Oh well, I see that a lot of past Trump supporters, after trolling for almost one year with TRUMP and similar things, are now Hillary supporters. Not a big surprise.

It was always clear that they were only ironic Trump supporters. I wonder how they will react when Trump wins in November, though? lol

Trump isn't winning in November (or in WI).

Okay. lol

You can lol all you want, you are the one making baseless predictions contrary to all available evidence.
64  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: MA: Clinton 55 Trump 31 on: May 09, 2016, 11:00:17 am
Oh well, I see that a lot of past Trump supporters, after trolling for almost one year with TRUMP and similar things, are now Hillary supporters. Not a big surprise.

It was always clear that they were only ironic Trump supporters. I wonder how they will react when Trump wins in November, though? lol

Trump isn't winning in November (or in WI).
65  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Which NH counties will Trump win against Hillary? on: May 08, 2016, 10:56:17 pm
Well?
66  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What % of white women will Clinton get against Trump? on: May 08, 2016, 10:37:09 pm
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And accusing blacks of voting for Obama just because of his race worked out so well in 2012.

When 95 percent of blacks vote for Obama, yes, the shoe fits.

Only slightly up from the 89% that backed Kerry, the white guy...
67  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: 1991 Donald Trump documentary Trump: What's the Deal on: May 08, 2016, 10:27:56 pm
I hope it's legal to post this here.  The filmmaker claims that Donald Trump forced this film to be suppressed for years but later was able to post it on YouTube.  However, he is now selling streaming of the documentary on his website.  So, I don't know if this Youtube video is a copyright violation.

Anyway

If the documentary is accurate, Trump made his money by using his father's influence to get in the development business in the first place, then, after having achieved that, essentially and sometimes literally bribed politicians to get sweetheart deals that allowed him to get his buildings to have more floors than originally agreed  (I understand that making commercial and personal rental buildings as tall as possible is the key to making money in real estate) and that gave him large tax abatement deals.

He financed the construction of the buildings through high interest loans while putting no money down (the equivalent of junk bonds) and in order to pay off the loans went into the casino business.  The documentary alleges that Trump bought out at least one casino operation by what sounded to me like essentially a 'pump and dump' scheme that left all the other investors empty handed.

The documentary also claims that Donald Trump, at least when it came out in 1991, had a violent temper, blamed former business partners who had been killed in a helicopter crash months before for his then current business failings, completely frightened Ivanna Trump, frightened his corporate executives half the time, used aliases to try to cover his shady business dealings, and regarding deceiving his business partners, contractors and the public at large as standard business practices (and similarly sometimes threatening violence).

I don't know, maybe that's what some people want in a President, but if this is documentary is accurate, he's likely a psychopath.

Likely? He's the textbook definition.
68  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Opinion of Michael Bay on: May 08, 2016, 09:30:58 pm
Has become sort of a punchline because of his films reliance on action and special effects. Your opinion?
69  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Ann Coulter: Trump could crush the EC with slight increase in white vote in MW on: May 08, 2016, 06:59:45 pm
Clinton was leading the election pretty decisively July through early October when Perot dropped back in. At the time the Bush camp was elated since they figured they would be able to draw even with Clinton, though after the election they blamed Perot for his loss. When you look at Dukakis states like IA & WI, it's clear Perot hurt Clinton just as much as Bush.
70  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Ann Coulter: Trump could crush the EC with slight increase in white vote in MW on: May 08, 2016, 05:38:58 pm
Not IL and ME.

Swing states:
CO, FL, IA, MI, MN, VA, NH, OH, PA, WI?

ME could vote LePage but not Trump?
71  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How does TRUMP possibly win? on: May 08, 2016, 05:38:05 pm
What has to happen in order for Trump to become president?

I just don't see Trump winning. His absolute ceiling is a 2% loss. He has completely alienated minorities and educated, upscale whites. If we assume that he gets 10% of blacks and 20% of Hispanics/Asians, he will need 66% of the white vote (the percentage Reagan got in 1984) in order to barely win.

I know people say things like "There is still 6 months until the election. Anything could happen."

The polls were actually pretty accurate 6 months before the 2012 and 2008 elections.http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/obama_vs_romney_compared_to_obama_vs_mccain.html

I just can't see us electing a joke candidate like Trump. Trump has a 0.000001% chance of victory.

"Educated, upscale" whites can be racist too.
72  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Ann Coulter: Trump could crush the EC with slight increase in white vote in MW on: May 08, 2016, 05:33:30 pm
Month old article, but how many agree with her analysis?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/04/01/ann_coulter_trump_could_crush_the_electoral_college_by_slightly_increasing_the_white_vote_in_the_industrial_midwest.html

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Where [Trump] needs to win is the industrial midwest, some of the purple states on the coast, and contrary to what the media has been telling us -- Thanks to this guy Stuart Stevens who lost a winnable campaign in 2012, they have this idea there are no more white votes to be had.

Romney lost the white vote. Or nearly lost the white vote in ten major purple states.

Michigan, Ohio, Minnesota, Iowa, N.H., Maine, Illinois, Colorado, have I named ten yet?

[Editor's note: Pennsylvania and Wisconsin?]

If Trump can slightly increase the white vote in these big industrial states in the midwest.

And by the way, Maine went for Ross Perot, I think Trump will be popular there.

All he needs is a handful of states.
73  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Donald Trump vs Bernie Sanders (two options only) on: May 07, 2016, 06:48:58 pm
Can't pick. Sanders is awful and un-American, but I can't choose Trump because of the deportations and family killing stuff.

What is awful and un-American about Sanders?

His desire to turn America into Scandinavia.

So what's wrong with emulating another country if they do something better than we do?

They don't do it better. Which is why Europe has been turning away from "Democratic Socialism".
74  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Donald Trump vs Bernie Sanders (two options only) on: May 07, 2016, 06:37:22 pm
Can't pick. Sanders is awful and un-American, but I can't choose Trump because of the deportations and family killing stuff.

What is awful and un-American about Sanders?

His desire to turn America into Scandinavia.
75  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Donald Trump vs Bernie Sanders (two options only) on: May 07, 2016, 05:15:03 pm
Can't pick. Sanders is awful and un-American, but I can't choose Trump because of the deportations and family killing stuff.
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