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12201  Election Archive / 2006 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: MD: Survey USA: MD senate race statistically tied on: November 03, 2006, 07:45:50 pm
You know, while I'd like Cardin to win, I almost wouldn't mind if the MD Democrats did badly this year. Parties that take their base for granted need to be taught a lesson.
They havent taken their base for granted. The only people who have been taken for granted are, across the nation, evangelicals and middle class people who were duped to vote republican. Blacks arent being taken for granted. How is this?

Unfortunately, up until this point, we have. Look at the recent Democratic nominations for Senate, Governor, Lt. Governor, and lower level offices. They don't reflect, proportionally, the face of the Democratic party in our state. We are so afraid that if we nominate a black, whites won't for them, that we've simply stopped nominating blacks. But I really think the events of this election cycle have taken things to a head and been a huge wake-up call to the party. We'll need to do better in nominating people who reflect the diversity of this state. Things are definitely going to change from now on- at least in my view. Personally, I'm very serious about that. In the meantime, I really hope Cardin just pulls it off this year so we don't have a Bushbot for Senator.
12202  Election Archive / 2006 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: CO-04: SurveyUSA: Musgrave's lead down to one point on: November 03, 2006, 07:16:12 pm
Man I would love for Musgrave to lose.

^^^
12203  Election Archive / 2006 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: MD: Survey USA: MD senate race statistically tied on: November 03, 2006, 07:11:47 pm
You know, while I'd like Cardin to win, I almost wouldn't mind if the MD Democrats did badly this year. Parties that take their base for granted need to be taught a lesson.

We certainly aren't going to be taking the African-American base for granted after this year, no matter what happens. I'm reasonably confident about that-- at least it's affected my thinking.
12204  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / US to shut down Iraq reconstruction watchdog: report on: November 03, 2006, 02:45:23 pm
NEW YORK (AFP) - A US agency which has exposed corruption and mismanagement in        Iraq reconstruction efforts will be shut down next year.

The New York Times reported on its website that a little-noticed provision in a recent military spending bill signed by        President George W. Bush will close the Office of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction in October 2007.

The move will end an operation that has embarrassed the US government at times by exposing corruption and poor performance among favored contractors for billion-dollar reconstruction missions, like Halliburton and Parsons.

The provision was inserted at the last minute into a large military authorization bill by Republicans in Congress.

"It has generated surprise and some outrage among lawmakers, who say they had no idea it was in the final legislation," the Times said.

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More absurdity.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usiraqreconstruction
12205  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Liberals: Who is more acceptable? on: November 03, 2006, 02:13:40 pm
Choose from the following pairs.

Bush Sr
Bush Jr

Bush Sr because he was more moderate and more genuine.

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Reagan
Bush Jr

Reagan because he was more of a libertarian.

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Ford
Bush Jr

Gerald Ford... an essentially average choice.

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Jeanne Kirkpatrick
Paul Wolfowitz

Kirkpatrick. It seems she was less involved in the current Iraq fiasco.

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Barry Goldwater
Tom Tancredo

Barry Goldwater. Tancredo's a single-issue opportunist.

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Average Paleoconservative
Average Neoconservative

Average paleoconservative... at least they aren't warmongers. If neocons were any good at nation-building- nevermind.
12206  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bush Admin leaked info giving huge boost to Iran's nuke program on: November 03, 2006, 02:07:21 pm
The documents are from Iraq's pre-1991 program. They were closer to having a nuclear weapon before 1991 than after.
12207  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bush Laments ‘Tone’ In Washington on: November 03, 2006, 02:04:23 pm
Hopefully a Democratic takeover of Congress can improve things somewhat; ..

If they go in with the game plan to start up a whole bunch of hearings and investigations, it will only get worse.

At least the two parties will be forced to work together to pass a budget. Anything that comes out of Washington would be a guaranteed product of bipartisanship. Of course, that might mean fewer things coming out. Smiley Seriously though, I would hope a Democratic Congress (by no means a certainty) would exercise its coequal Constitutional role assertively, but not get too distracted by hearings.

The problem is that calling your political opponents terrorist abettors is not exactly helpful for the tone, nor is it particularly helpful for the 'war on terror' to be frank. It would be bad for the country if that kind of campaign pays off.
12208  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Unemployment Plunges to 4.4% in October on: November 03, 2006, 01:58:24 pm
Solid news for the economy. I didn't hear anyone saying this was some kind of political conspiracy, I don't think anyone thinks of monthly economic statistics like that.

The election issue this year of course has never been about the economic performance, unless you mean how the government spends its money, which is a different issue. The Republicans have chosen to campaign on the theme "vote for us because if you don't the terrorists win," and the Democrats have chosen to campaign on Iraq and some specific economic plans like the minimum wage.

The 230,000 added in August is what the economy needs to be getting on a regular basis. During the 1990's expansion our labor force was smaller than it is today, and we had an average of 225,000 jobs generated every month for about eight years. The current number just suggest that unemployment is dropping because not as many people are going into the job market. Still, the August/September numbers are an improvement over most of this expansion, and we'll see if they can continue to hold up. The stock market might not like it though... rising wages is bad for profits.
12209  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Election horror stories/I didn't vote. on: November 03, 2006, 01:16:56 am
Ha, that doesn't matter. I was all worked up about it this morning but it doesn't really matter. As Anthony Downs suggests, it might not even be rational to vote at all.
12210  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Compare the previous poster to a Political figure? on: November 02, 2006, 11:00:54 pm
Didn't realize it was restricted to contemporary figures Smiley

Gosh that's tough... I guess Feingold.
12211  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Compare the previous poster to a Political figure? on: November 02, 2006, 10:54:34 pm
Joe Clark, the former Senator from Pennsylvania.
12212  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Political calls from REAL people. on: November 02, 2006, 09:12:25 pm
I've done a LOT of phone banking this election cycle... and it is mostly effective in trying to get a picture of the election.

I have talked to a few people that have asked me about certain issues.. and of course I tried to explain them in as non-partisan way as possible (though being a partisan organization.. the Minnesota DFL)...

Most people I've called have been over 65, and they are very wary about giving out their opinions over the phone, but many will just say it.. it also depends on how you go about it...  I've found that if you call and say something like

"Hi, My name is (name), and I'm calling from the Minnesota DFL party.  We're justing calling around to gather some information for the upcoming election, and we were wondering if you could tell us who you'd be supporting in (race)?"

I found that like 80% of those I talked to would answer this as compared to something more direct like "I'm calling from the Minnesota DFL, and we were wondering if you could tell us who you're supporting in the (race) this fall?" 

That's when a lot of people hang up or say no.

I've had a lot of people mention that they hate negative campaigning.  I've had people say that they hated Hillary Clinton and Democrats... but they were oddly voting for a few of them... I've talked to people that were supporting Mike Hatch and Amy Klobuchar.. but also Michele Bachmann.... why?  I don't know.  The person who can vote for all democrats, but for Michele Bachmann is truly something that needs study...

But anyway, yeah.  I hate doing it.. but I just figure that maybe it'll make a difference in the end..

Door knocking is a lot more effective.  That'll be huge this weekend.

I tried my hand at phone banking. Excluding bad numbers, people not there, people who hang up, etc., I reached about one in ten people (ok maybe not THAT bad), and usually that is so rare I forget what I'm supposed to say and just end up thanking them profusely. Seriously though... you have to go in with diminished expectations. It really is like the lottery.
12213  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Name the ideology of the preceding poster... on: November 02, 2006, 09:08:53 pm
old school Republicanism
12214  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Say something to spook the previous poster on: November 02, 2006, 06:57:27 pm
The US economy will soon exceed Canada's
12215  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bush wants Rumsfeld, Cheney for rest of term on: November 02, 2006, 06:23:54 pm
The main reason why he doesn't do it is because they're pretty much all personal friends of either himself or his dad.  It's a common problem when you surround yourself with incompetent cronies; it'd just be too awkward and unpleasant for him to let them go.

I think this hits it right on the money, and is a clear indicator of why you should not hire your close personal friends to positions immediately under you.

Of course, Bush's entire term has been about helping people he owes things to, so I suppose I can't be too surprised... Tongue

Well Bush is President because of who is father is. It's his whole life. So it shouldn't be too surprising what his philosophy is.
12216  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Politics calling: How do you like those nasty telephone calls on: November 02, 2006, 06:19:31 pm
Robert Redford called me today to tell me to vote yes on an environmental initiative.

ROBERT REDFORD CALLED YOU??!? OMG UR FAMOUS!!! Cheesy OMG
12217  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Favorite and least favorite 2008 candidates of each Party on: November 02, 2006, 06:18:38 pm
GOP
Romney favorite
Tancredo least

Dem
Richardson favorite
Biden least
12218  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Politics calling: How do you like those nasty telephone calls on: November 02, 2006, 06:15:45 pm
Has anyone got calls from real people?
12219  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Say something to spook the previous poster on: November 02, 2006, 06:13:00 pm
China, Switzerland and Pennsylvania are different places.
12220  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Political Compass vs. Political Matrix (social score) on: November 02, 2006, 06:12:15 pm
matrix.
12221  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: which of the two preceding atlasians is more entertaining on: November 02, 2006, 05:36:03 pm
colin
12222  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Election horror stories/I didn't vote. on: November 02, 2006, 01:42:24 pm
As of today, still no ballot.

I´ve heard of stories where a letter came to the recipient about 50 years after it was sent. Relax, maybe your post service in Maryland is crap ...

I won't be surprised if it comes the day after the election. Of course at that point it no longer counts, lol. Smiley

I really wonder if there are many others in the same situation though.
12223  Forum Community / Forum Community / Election horror stories/I didn't vote. on: November 02, 2006, 12:57:34 pm
I submitted an application for an absentee ballot for Maryland on Oct. 17, the deadline was Oct. 31. They said I would get the ballot in 10 days. After 10 business, I called them, they said they had mailed it out on Oct. 24. As of today, still no ballot. I'm not paying $50 for priority mail if it comes tommorrow or Monday. If this happened to me, what about all the other Maryland residents going to school in other states, who submitted their applications closer to the deadline? Their system is broken.
12224  Election Archive / 2006 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: Zogby/Reuters: Dems lead in 12/15 key house races on: November 01, 2006, 05:55:14 pm
I didn't think the Democrats had the ability this year to pull off control of the house.  I thought that would require a national pulling together and the production of a solid, firm message on the national level.  Maybe I'll be proven wrong.

Dems are completely united this year, and we have a clear agenda that has been spelled out by House leaders.

On Iraq, Democrats have been making the same set of points-
1- Begin to bring the troops home to tell the Iraqi government no blank check.
2- Clear benchmarks for them to meet or face real consequences.
3- Involve the international community to help deal with Iraq- it's not just our problem.
4- Allow the country to be administered in three separate areas while a political settlement is reached.

The 100 Hours plan sets the agenda for domestic policy:

Day One: Put new rules in place to "break the link between lobbyists and legislation."

Day Two: Enact all the recommendations made by the commission that investigated the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Time remaining until 100 hours: Raise the minimum wage to $7.25 an hour, maybe in one step. Cut the interest rate on student loans in half. Allow the government to negotiate directly with the pharmaceutical companies for lower drug prices for Medicare patients.

Broaden the types of stem cell research allowed with federal funds _ "I hope with a veto-proof majority," she added in an Associated Press interview Thursday.

All the days after that: "Pay as you go," meaning no increasing the deficit, whether the issue is middle class tax relief, health care or some other priority.
12225  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Question regarding political "black sheep" on: November 01, 2006, 05:32:07 pm
I'd like to see bullmoose as a Democrat Smiley
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