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12201  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Dean Says Dems Must Change Their Outreach to Blacks and Other Minorities on: May 26, 2005, 08:19:54 pm
Bob, did you see my post? The extremity of Utah is pretty glaring. Also, it's possible that religiousity and not conservatism could be what is really important.
12202  General Discussion / History / Re: When did the "modern" era begin? on: May 26, 2005, 08:17:02 pm
The advent of modernity and the creation breaks in history in general for the purposes of study, and U.S. history in particular, are very different. History is largely focused around political and sometimes economic events, and subject to the conveniences of disciplinary study. However, the larger fundamental divisions between the substantive completion of the process that began in England in the mid-1700s, representing a break from the largely agrarian past of 10,000 years, to the very different civilization we see today, is a much more encompassing endeavor.

For U.S. history study I would generally go with J.J.'s breaks, although the period after 1989 is not really best fit in the discipline of history but rather that of contemporary affairs and public policy.
12203  General Discussion / History / Re: Presidential Survivor (ROUND 32) - IMMUNITY AT STAKE on: May 26, 2005, 08:00:11 pm
Reagan

Texasgurl- you do realize Truman is very popular here and picking him for immunity doesn't do very much because he's likely not to be voted off until the top 5 anyway?
12204  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: The gang of 14 form their own party. So who would you vote for? on: May 26, 2005, 07:57:14 pm
If Congress is Republican as it now is, I'd vote Clinton. If Congress were Dem, I'd probably vote McCain.

A18 is either spinning or just wrong: moderate Republicans and center-right "outsiders" would leave the GOP and vote independent. Not every rank and file  Republican is happy with the ways of Tom Delay and Company- and Frist is obviously into doing their bidding.

TCash,

your own behavior and the poll on this site contradict your prediction (and Jesus's). According to the poll result, Frist would won 45+ states as Democrats defect en masse to McCain

What??? With 29.6% of the vote Frist would carry 45+ states??? Assuming this is a scientific poll, which it is far from, I'd like to hear how with a basically 30-30-30 tie, how Frist wins 51%, as A18 claims, and how Frist wins 45+ states as you claim. Awaiting your logic...

And I'll add: I never predicted Clinton would win. I predicted some Mccain votes would come from the GOP- that Frist would not get a similar popular vote percentage that GWB got, as A18 predicted he would.

The results have changed a bit since I posted, but yes, Frist could theoretically win a landslide with 29.6% if the Democratic vote divided evenly and little GOP defection from Frist.
12205  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Dean Says Dems Must Change Their Outreach to Blacks and Other Minorities on: May 26, 2005, 07:53:07 pm
The high birth rates aren't necessarily from "conservatives". In fact, in most cases it's likely the opposite.

No, look at Utah. I'm pretty sure you could apply HLM modelling there and come up with a statistically significant proof that conservatives have higher birthrates based on the ecological data alone. But it's not so much conservatism as religion that somehow does it. I don't know exactly why.

jfern- duh, it takes time to (a) maintain a family and (b) get an education.
12206  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Populism on: May 26, 2005, 07:50:35 pm
In the long term, it will pass

Yes, the long term, as in 2300? LOL. "Stargate, log... today Social Security Reform passed." LOL!!

If Republicans wanted to pass it, they could have passed it long ago. As for erosion of civil liberties, yes, this "war on terror" will never end and this president is acting like a dictator more and more.
12207  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How would you define yourself ideologically? on: May 25, 2005, 08:28:21 pm
Either moderate liberal-leaning centrist or radical leftist.
12208  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: which is more likely to go Democrat first? on: May 25, 2005, 08:26:07 pm
You mean the panhandle? That will never go Dem again. The place has become infested with right-wing whackos.
12209  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Populism on: May 25, 2005, 08:17:45 pm
Not relative to the Democrats, but okay, I see your point. They have gone spending crazy in the short term.

What is short term is the GOP's support of social security privatization, which they will drop soon if they haven't already. Its a losing issue for them and what they care about is winning. Their support of big government programs and erosion of civil liberties, however, is permanent.

12210  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: The gang of 14 form their own party. So who would you vote for? on: May 25, 2005, 07:16:28 pm
If Congress is Republican as it now is, I'd vote Clinton. If Congress were Dem, I'd probably vote McCain.

A18 is either spinning or just wrong: moderate Republicans and center-right "outsiders" would leave the GOP and vote independent. Not every rank and file  Republican is happy with the ways of Tom Delay and Company- and Frist is obviously into doing their bidding.

TCash,

your own behavior and the poll on this site contradict your prediction (and Jesus's). According to the poll result, Frist would won 45+ states as Democrats defect en masse to McCain
12211  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Alternative Elections / Re: Atlas Campaign 2032 on: May 25, 2005, 06:13:41 pm
Guinan recieved higher than expected support from inner-city Philadelphia.

Um, "inner-city Philadelphia" will no longer exist by 2032.
12212  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Back in hell on: May 25, 2005, 12:33:03 am
If you had the courage of your convictions,

Convictions? This ... word ... is being used to describe ... o ... p ... e .... ....
12213  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Where exactly is it stated... on: May 25, 2005, 12:28:30 am
Its tattooed to the inside of my anus.
12214  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Changing ideologies and growing older... on: May 25, 2005, 12:26:39 am
Well, when the current "liberal" position is to sue telemarketing firms as a primary source of income, it's rather difficult not to, wouldn't you say?  In any case, the only liberal being bashed here seems to be able to take for himself just fine.

What's wrong with suing telemarketing firms? Those firms need to take it up the ass once in a while to make their lives more exciting. Besides, it provides employment to lawyers.
12215  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Survivor- Round XXXI on: May 24, 2005, 08:54:38 pm
dazzleman

--sorry dazzle, at least you made it this far, and at least you made it into the game! (which is more than can be said about yours truly)
12216  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Last time your state's margin was over 20% on: May 24, 2005, 06:33:15 pm
1964
12217  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Which state has undergone the most changes in recent years? on: May 24, 2005, 06:32:23 pm
Politically, Georgia has undergone a lot of change. California's been pretty tumultous.
12218  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Populism on: May 24, 2005, 06:28:28 pm
It plays a big role.  America leans populist.  The Ross Perot campaign was somewhat populist, and he would have possibly won the 1992 election if he would have stayed in the campaign.  There's a lot of room at the moment for a populist third party here, since both parties have strayed away from it.

I think you mean: both parties are in it to their necks.
Are you kidding?  Both parties are rejecting it completely.
Are YOU KIDDING??? The GOP is doing nothing but moving left economically and right socially in the past couple years, and so are the Democrats.
12219  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Populism on: May 24, 2005, 06:05:36 pm
Populism is a dead ideology that no one I've ever met supports.

Are you kidding? Populism is the majority in America and has been for decades.
12220  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: What are the most important credentials for a presidential candidate? on: May 24, 2005, 06:03:29 pm
White Anglo-Saxon Protestant
12221  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would you rather live in a prudish democracy or sex crazed dictatorship? on: May 24, 2005, 06:01:17 pm
Sex-crazed democracy

Sorry, that's not an option... Tongue

darnit, why does BRTD always have to make everything so hard???
12222  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Family and Society on: May 24, 2005, 05:59:50 pm
you just might find a human hiding below the surface

"might"? "might"? Woah, that's one of the worst put-downs of the CC I have heard in a while. Anyhoo, I'm sure they are ok folks. It is what they want to do with the government that scares me.
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12223  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would you rather live in a prudish democracy or sex crazed dictatorship? on: May 24, 2005, 05:55:54 pm
Sex-crazed democracy
12224  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bush Condemns S. Korea Stem Cell Advances on: May 24, 2005, 05:54:08 pm
thefactor, would you have thought back then to preserve old documents?  Would you have realized their value?

Heck, I still have my Calculus text book from 4 years ago. Of course.
12225  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: We have a compromise! on: May 24, 2005, 05:53:08 pm
sh**t...
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