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26  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Atlantic: How Democrats Lost Their Way on Immigration on: June 23, 2017, 03:19:56 pm
It's fair to say the Democrats' record wasn't good in 2009. A lot of people have been saying for years they should have done more on the recession and mortgage crisis. Obama missed a huge opportunity to be an FDR-style figure. This isn't controversial on the left anymore.
27  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Atlantic: How Democrats Lost Their Way on Immigration on: June 23, 2017, 02:33:08 pm
Exactly.. the Republicans controlled Congress for 18 of the last 22 years. As the legislative branch they are in charge of laws and appropriations.
28  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hypothetical Trump vs Sanders on: June 23, 2017, 02:25:42 pm
With a strong populist message, Sanders appears to be coasting to a decisive victory. Then, on October 28, McCain/Romney max donor James Comey announces Sanders and his wife have been under FBI investigation since January. After the ensuing media firestorm, Trump narrowly wins the Electoral College, and Sanders concedes defeat. Debbie Wasserman Schultz bitterly laments that Hillary would surely have won.
29  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jeff Merkely? on: June 23, 2017, 01:47:48 pm
Jeff Merkley would be a top tier candidate.
30  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Nebraska Democratic Official; "I'm glad Scalise was shot" on: June 23, 2017, 12:38:48 pm
Why are Democrats in these deep red states so extreme? In 2014 audio from Kansas Democrats insulting some towns in their own state surfaced. I'm in DC, a 4% Trump city and you don't hear people talking like that. You'd think Nebraska Democrats would be blue dog salt of the earth types.
31  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: MD-Gov: Rushern Baker is in on: June 23, 2017, 12:26:47 pm
I don't see Jealous going very far - as previously mentioned he is a Bernie candidate running in a machine state. If Donna Edwards, a significantly better candidate, wasn't able to beat the machine-backed candidate last year then I don't see Jealous doing so either.

Is Delaney announced? Not seeing so anywhere.

Exactly - Maryland has a history of preferring establishment Democrats.
32  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NY GOV-2018 Thread on: June 23, 2017, 12:23:59 pm
Will progressives put half as much energy here as they will trying to knock off Feinstein?
33  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: GA-GOV 2018: Can Democrats win Georgia's governorship? on: June 23, 2017, 12:21:44 pm
Yeah, the Democrat can definitely win this race.
34  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: North Korea ‘willing to talk’ with US about nuclear moratorium on: June 23, 2017, 08:43:23 am
The only real question here is whether South Korean politics is at a point where they'll choose to engage in this pointless kabuki theatre.  Actually, South Korea is at this point better off if they continue to force the North to engage in pointless propaganda nuclear tests that use up some of the North's production than if they give the North a chance to build up their stockpile while engaging in meaningless talks that will last without result until the North feels the need to test again.

So you want them to keep testing? What happens then?
35  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Do dating sites work? on: June 22, 2017, 10:18:59 pm
Yes, they work. Just be warned that the typical attractive woman on a dating site is picking from a fairly large menu.
36  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How will the democrats get back working class voters in the 2020 elections? on: June 22, 2017, 10:06:13 pm
She was basically a SJW

Hillary "Superpredators" Clinton an SJW?

Clinton's problem is that she was incoherent on every level. At no point in her campaign did she have anything remotely approaching a unified vision of the future or a policy base.

She tried to be a SJW, but of course she's been in the spotlight too long not to have comments that don't meet SJW's standards. Her positions on unpopular positions like the assault weapons ban, partial birth abortion, and war were very coherent.

Not to mention the fact that she was disturbingly close to major banks

Indeed.
37  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: What would be your strategy to get to 218 if you're the dccc? on: June 22, 2017, 10:01:24 pm
Sure sunbelters will go for a rust belt message
https://ballotpedia.org/Arizona_Minimum_Wage_and_Paid_Time_Off,_Proposition_206_(2016)
38  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How will the democrats get back working class voters in the 2020 elections? on: June 22, 2017, 09:56:53 pm
She was basically a SJW

Hillary "Superpredators" Clinton an SJW?

Clinton's problem is that she was incoherent on every level. At no point in her campaign did she have anything remotely approaching a unified vision of the future or a policy base.

She tried to be a SJW, but of course she's been in the spotlight too long not to have comments that don't meet SJW's standards. Her positions on unpopular positions like the assault weapons ban, partial birth abortion, and war were very coherent.
39  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How will the democrats get back working class voters in the 2020 elections? on: June 22, 2017, 09:47:27 pm
I mean, let's face it, Hillary never saw a war she didn't like. She was basically a SJW with John McCain's foreign policy bolted on, and that's why she lost.
40  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How will the democrats get back working class voters in the 2020 elections? on: June 22, 2017, 09:33:16 pm
We Democrats should campaign on increasing the trade deficit and shipping more jobs to Bangladesh. Those people are poorer, so we have a moral imperative to give them our jobs. You aren't a R-r-r-RAAAAAAAcist, are you? ? ? ?
41  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Found on Reddit. Worth a chuckle. on: June 22, 2017, 09:27:53 pm
Clearly, anyone who didn't vote for Hillary Clinton isn't really a Democrat, they are evil heteronormative cissexist BernieBros and should be shunned from the party. Hillary's vote will be our ceiling forever. Cheesy

What does this even mean?

It's a joke.
42  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Atlantic: How Democrats Lost Their Way on Immigration on: June 22, 2017, 09:27:16 pm
I'd venture a guess that the vast majority of people wish poverty didn't exist, but the real issue is how to address it and how much of our resources to devote to fixing it. Given the way the world is, there has to be limits. Further, it's not even like the entire country wants to fix everyone else's problems. Sure, you can disagree with them, but you must strike a balance. You can't just ignore their wishes entirely. It is their country too, and those that wish for America to play a limited role are no small bunch.

It's one thing to deport those here already and another to further lock down the borders and prevent a situation in the future where we have another 10 - 12 million undocumented immigrants. The idea that that we can have some sort of border security, but then say, "well, if they manage to sneak in, they can stay" seems kind of ridiculous. Give the people already here at this current point in time citizenship, and work to prevent a similar situation in the future.

It honestly perplexes me how this isn't the viewpoint of 90% of people.

It is the viewpoint of 90% of people...

Yeah, I agree with this 100%.
43  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Found on Reddit. Worth a chuckle. on: June 22, 2017, 09:24:34 pm
Clearly, anyone who didn't vote for Hillary Clinton isn't really a Democrat, they are evil heteronormative cissexist BernieBros and should be shunned from the party. Hillary's vote will be our ceiling forever. Cheesy
44  General Politics / Individual Politics / If I were to move somewhere solely based on politics? on: June 22, 2017, 09:07:58 pm
I prefer warmer climes, but fear climate change. You choose.
45  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: North Korea ‘willing to talk’ with US about nuclear moratorium on: June 22, 2017, 02:16:07 pm
The ironic thing is they praised him last year and endorsed him over Hillary:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-trump-idUSKCN0YN35S
46  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Democrats Are ‘Children Of Satan,’ Right-Wing Radio Host Says on: June 22, 2017, 12:10:12 am
Modern secular social liberalism has at its root the same pitch as Satan gave to Eve: you know better than God, so why follow His rules? In a very literal way, social liberalism, atheism, libertarianism, etc. could all be labeled as Satanic and rightfully so.

While it's literally impossible for people to know better than God, God gave us a brain in order to think, otherwise he would have left the brain part out. It's all part of God's plan. In any case, Trump isn't very Godly.
47  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Nancy Pelosi is a huge burden for Dems on: June 21, 2017, 11:41:20 pm
Be removed, provided someone under 70 replaces her. I like her, but the House minority should give the next generation a chance. And I was on the fence six months ago.
48  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: North Korea ‘willing to talk’ with US about nuclear moratorium on: June 21, 2017, 10:59:57 pm
China is running victory laps now. How humiliating for America.

So says the guy who said he hoped for nuclear war more than anything.
49  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Will Bill Cosby be found guilty? on: June 21, 2017, 10:58:36 pm
Reminder for Trump supporters:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
50  General Politics / International General Discussion / North Korea ‘willing to talk’ with US about nuclear moratorium on: June 21, 2017, 10:51:51 pm
"NORTH Korea has indicated it is open to a moratorium on its nuclear and ballistic missile testing, in unusually frank comments from one of the country’s ambassadors.

Tensions have been high between the US and the rogue state since American student Otto Warmbier died as a result of a catastrophic brain injury sustained while he was detained by North Korea.

But, the reclusive nation’s ambassador to India, Kye Chun Yong, has told Indian TV that it is prepared to halt its weapons testing program if the US stops its military exercises in the region."

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/north-korea-willing-to-talk-with-us-about-nuclear-moratorium/news-story/05f3dab667590ff79eb73127991bff7a

The Chinese and South Koreans are also on board with this plan.
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