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76  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Will the GOP ever nominate a minority candidate? on: June 14, 2014, 01:50:16 am
Could this happen?
77  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If we go back into Iraq, will Hilary make any statements on it? on: June 13, 2014, 11:07:03 pm
She supported a $1 trillion war invading a country that didn't have Al Qaeda active. She supported arming the rebels in Syria, who include Al Qaeda and are active in Iraq. So she has made her pro Al Qaeda position abundantly clear.

So anyone who is pro rebel is pro Al Qaeda now? Is BRTD pro Al Qaeda then? What about the fact that Assad is the most brutal dictator on this side of North Korea, who routinely massacres his own people? And the rebels in Syria, including al Nusra, are the ones who were most successful in fighting against ISIS/ISIL, the group that is taking over Iraq now. They are the real enemy. If we had listened to Hillary and taken out Assad back in 2013, Iraq would probably still be in one piece today.
What about Assad? The rebels may not be Al Qaeda, but they still are the bad guys in my opinion. America has no dog in this fight, nor do we have one in Iraq. If we had listened to Hillary, Alawites would be slaughtered and our embassy would be burnt to the ground by ex rebel ingrates.

You're preaching to the wrong choir, my man. I'm against intervention, as I've made clear many times before. But if you think the events of the last week have strengthened the isolationist position, you're wrong. I recognize negative developments for my position when I see them, even though I don't like it. The existence of ISIS/ISIL, which is now in danger of becoming a real state, is entirely due to the power vacuum in Syria left by the civil war. It's a much bigger disaster than Benghazi. Libya is bad sure, but it's not nearly as bad as Syria. And the decision not to airstrike Syria made the U.S. look weak, particularly since Obama had pointed out a red line. In the months since we've seen U.S. rivals from Russia to China emboldened. There's a good argument to be made that the August 2013 decision not to air strike was a mistake.

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On another note, BRTD is worse than being pro Al Qaeda, because he supports all of Obama's wars while mocking American veterans routinely. It is called being a douche, and it is far, far more dangerous to American security than some routed shell organization that exists in the mountains of Afghanistan.

I'm going to vote that Al Qaeda is still more dangerous to the U.S. than BRTD.
78  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: ISIS/ISIL make major gains in Iraq on: June 13, 2014, 09:10:04 pm
Erdogan seems to be in a strong position. What better time than now to throw up their hands and just invade? Reclaim the Ottoman Empire. Syria, Iraq, the works.

Alternatively, the Iranians could send tank columns to "help" Iraq, vis-a-vis Napoleon-in-Spain. The Iranian army could push north all the way up into Syria and link up with Assad/Hezbollah. The glory days of the Persian Empire await...
79  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Rubio backs US air strikes on Iraqi insurgents on: June 13, 2014, 08:41:59 pm
The insurgents' gains are nearly finished. They already picked off most of the low hanging fruit sunni areas. If they go further south they'll be like William Wallace attacking York.
80  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If we go back into Iraq, will Hilary make any statements on it? on: June 13, 2014, 08:12:22 pm
She supported a $1 trillion war invading a country that didn't have Al Qaeda active. She supported arming the rebels in Syria, who include Al Qaeda and are active in Iraq. So she has made her pro Al Qaeda position abundantly clear.

So anyone who is pro rebel is pro Al Qaeda now? Is BRTD pro Al Qaeda then? What about the fact that Assad is the most brutal dictator on this side of North Korea, who routinely massacres his own people? And the rebels in Syria, including al Nusra, are the ones who were most successful in fighting against ISIS/ISIL, the group that is taking over Iraq now. They are the real enemy. If we had listened to Hillary and taken out Assad back in 2013, Iraq would probably still be in one piece today.
81  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Iraq and 2016 on: June 12, 2014, 07:53:36 pm
Northwestern Iraq falling to ISIL is definitely bad news, but the U.S. has no core national security interest in northwestern Iraq. Imagine if Obama had made the decision the hawks now say is the best one and kept troops in Iraq. Right now, they would be fighting ISIL and dying, in a region where the Iraqi government has no support anyway. Basically they would be fighting someone else's civil war. Is that a better option? Right now our veterans are at least home (well, the ones not in Afghanistan anyway). We are out of it. I see no reason why we must be 'in it'.
82  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Politifact:Hillary Clinton's claim about being "dead broke" is mostly false. on: June 12, 2014, 04:22:39 pm
Plenty of time for course correction anyhow.

1. The problem is, how much can people change by this point in life? The one thing you think she would have been good at-- having a thick skin-- she's not. The Terry Gross interview: She after the third or fourth question she should have just started giving single line answers. "Yes." "I changed my mind." "I've already answered that." and so on.

2. She's got to start enjoying this. When she gets attacked, she tends to get defensive and starts to mentally bristle. It probably brings back a lot of painful memories and I sort of understand, because she gets attacked unfairly a lot. But getting defensive isn't the way to go. The best is to show that you're enjoying beating down your enemies. Mock their stupidity. Connect it back to a pattern of stupidity. Humiliate them a little bit. That goes down much better and is much better for the psyche.
83  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Politifact:Hillary Clinton's claim about being "dead broke" is mostly false. on: June 12, 2014, 04:12:20 pm
^^
Pretty much,

Diane Sawyer: Why did you earn high speaking fees?

Clinton: We were dead broke.

Politifact: She wasn't dead broke because of her future ability to earn high speaking fees. Liar!
84  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should Democrats be happy abour Cantor's loss? on: June 12, 2014, 03:46:38 pm
I always support the person closer to my position, so no.
85  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: ISIS/ISIL make major gains in Iraq on: June 11, 2014, 01:04:53 pm
1. Maybe it's not as small as y'all think.

2. I could take Washington D.C. with 1000 men too if I faced no resistance. Just drive around from military base to military base taking sh**t and picking up recruits.
86  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: ERIC CANTOR *LOSES* PRIMARY!!! on: June 10, 2014, 07:55:46 pm
Well, I guess everyone loves a good ol'e upset. One of them powerful House leaders getting their comeuppance. Even if the result in this case is much more gridlock in the legislative branch.
87  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (June 10: AR, ME, NV, ND, SC, VA) on: June 10, 2014, 07:42:53 pm
If Boehner does indeed step down as speaker, then Cantor's defeat is a good thing for all of us, as he would have been a terrible speaker. Hopefully the new speaker and majority leader will understand that compromise is always the answer.

Not after this. If Cantor can get taken down for compromising any of them can.
88  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (June 10: AR, ME, NV, ND, SC, VA) on: June 10, 2014, 07:40:43 pm
Am I the only Democrat who's not happy about this? Reason and moderation lost, the Tea Party is back. Ugh.

LOL. Cantor is not in any way reasonable or moderate.

He is compared to the other guy.
89  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: ERIC CANTOR *LOSES* PRIMARY!!! on: June 10, 2014, 07:37:04 pm
God this is depressing.

Leave it to al to pull out the obscure references to primaries from 40 years ago.

Really, his departure is not a bad thing.  Get over it.

Yes it is. It shows Republican voters are so opposed to immigration reform they're willing to dick over their own majority leader just for putting it on the agenda.
90  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (June 10: AR, ME, NV, ND, SC, VA) on: June 10, 2014, 07:31:21 pm
Am I the only Democrat who's not happy about this? Reason and moderation lost, the Tea Party is back. Ugh.
91  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NSA: Our Systems Are "Too Complex" to Stop Deleting Evidence on: June 10, 2014, 07:14:46 pm
It was the same in August 1914. Once the trains start moving...
92  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Five Reasons China Won't Be A Big Threat To America's Global Power on: June 10, 2014, 06:33:47 pm
China can be a threat for American global domination, but in the very long run the USA probably have better prospects. I think the most significant of the mentioned problems of China is it's demographics. Now Chinese population is 4 times larger than that of the USA (and still USA is a superpower while China is not), but by 2100 according to projections that I've seen, this ratio will be closer to 2.5:1. United States will be able to maintain population growth and relatively high share of working age population through immigration, while Chinese population will be increasingly more aged and after several decades will start to shrink. And many areas of China seem to be overpopulated already, so even if Chinese fertility rate will rise to 2+ or China will attract enough migrants from another countries, Chinese populations have relatively little room for growth without causing significant harm for economy and environment.

All that proves is that population =/= power. The US is a superpower despite having a much lower population than China or India. It's what you do with the population that counts.
93  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2008 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: How did Hillary "lose" Nevada? on: June 09, 2014, 03:02:20 pm
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/20/who-won-the-battle-for-democratic-delegates-in-nevada-it%E2%80%99s-complicated/

Same reason Obama's 13,000 caucus goers in Idaho got him more delegates than 100,000+ Clinton voters in New Jersey. The system was stacked in favor of rural districts with few voters.
94  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone II - Less Boring, More Whoring on: June 09, 2014, 01:38:43 pm
I've spent a decent amount of time in both cities (more than any other cities, in fact) and never gotten that impression, but I adore San Francisco and don't really care for Washington much at all. To me Washington seems awfully artificial; the immense tourist trap that is the federal buildings in the heart of the city serves as a real impediment to the creation of real communities like San Francisco has.

I've always felt it strange when people talk about "real communities" in a city. For one thing, if you are not a part of those communities, why do you care? What value does it bring to you? On the other hand, if you are a part of a community, then again, I would say it's more about your personal connections than the physical space. I can see myself living in the middle of a relatively close residential "community" and yet still be quite isolated. So what you're talking about is really the snobbery of preferring one type of city to another.
95  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: Washington Post National: Hillary leads all by double digits on: June 08, 2014, 03:23:24 pm
Has any non-incumbent candidate ever started out this strong, this early out?

In September 1999, Bush led Gore 56 to 39, and Bill Bradley 57 to 37.
96  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who would be a better General Election Candidate? on: June 07, 2014, 04:56:59 pm
The other side of the question, remember, is that Hillary is not as strong as she appears. Politics has changed since she was last active, and in the approximately 17 months since she's left State, she hasn't shown much indication that she's in tune with current trends. Americans are becoming more isolationist; Hillary's internationalist leanings have merely been confirmed. Americans are feeling economically less secure; Hillary seems less sensitive to this than Warren. Hillary also seems to inspire a lot of resentment that Warren doesn't, most likely owing to the length of her tenure in the public eye.
97  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who would be a better General Election Candidate? on: June 07, 2014, 03:18:53 pm
True but Scott Brown was a moderate, incumbent Senator with a 58% approval rating; Warren had never held elected office. (On the other hand it was Massachusetts in a presidential election year.)

So I don't know; but just putting it out there. I am of the school that politics is dynamic and you never really know what to expect. Conventional wisdom today is not necessarily a good barometer of anything years from now.
98  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who would be a better General Election Candidate? on: June 07, 2014, 02:34:19 pm
I guess the case for Warren is that polls today are soft; in 2006 McCain was winning in a landslide over Obama. Hillary is cruising but Warren is more inspiring. Look at Warren's bio- a Oklahoma born, single mother who put herself through school, a law professor who studied bankruptcy and knows her sh_t, an economic "populist" who comes up with genuinely popular bills like reducing student loan interest rates to the same rate banks get. The argument is that in a GE campaign, these attributes would bring out numerous independents who have written off party politics, hence making her a stronger candidate than she appears.

In any case that's the argument.
99  General Politics / International General Discussion / Five Reasons China Won't Be A Big Threat To America's Global Power on: June 07, 2014, 02:22:47 pm
http://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenthompson/2014/06/06/five-reasons-china-wont-be-a-big-threat-to-americas-global-power/

What does everyone think of this article? I generally agree with it, but it is more about whether China will eclipse American power. I think it is pretty clear it will not. But that does not mean it cannot do massive damage to the U.S. After all, arguably no American opponent since 1815 has eclipsed the U.S. in power. But many of them (from Nazi Germany down to Iraqi insurgents) caused the U.S. major headaches. Just because China will not eclipse America, doesn't mean there could be a major, major catastrophe if there is a miscalculation if the two countries enter a war.
100  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Who would be a better General Election Candidate? on: June 07, 2014, 02:04:32 pm
discuss.
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