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76  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 57% now support sending U.S. ground troops to fight ISIS on: February 20, 2015, 07:11:18 pm
It is worth mentioning that the CNN poll below it has support at 47%. The main difference between the two polls is that the CBS question was preceded by one asking if IS was a threat. The CNN one was preceded by a question asking "how things are going".
77  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Scott Walker's "college problem" a problem ? This new NH poll has the answer. on: February 20, 2015, 07:00:04 pm
"That dummy doesn't have a college degree! Why on earth would you cast your vote for them?!?!" -among the many things that Hillary Clinton will never say

LOL! Of course she won't say it directly but she will suggest it subtly. She will also make her gender part of the campaign. Remember in 2008 when she and Bill said that she still had a shot at the Democratic nomination because of... uh... hard-working... white Americans.
Or remember Bill's quote:  "A few years ago, this guy [Obama] would have been carrying our bags."
http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/bill-clinton-made-racist-remarks-about-barack-obama-in-2008-report-498484

Precisely... She'll say something normal and innocuous and the derangement crowd will seize on it to claim she's putting down people without a college degree. Roll Eyes
78  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is criticizing Clinton for her 2008 campaign problems fair game? on: February 20, 2015, 06:22:53 pm
No campaign that loses looks good.

But Obama wasn't just a candidate. He was a phenomenon. When TIME Magazine has a cover without your name or picture on it, but everyone knows it's about you, you're a phenomenon. When you're a Democrat who goes to places like Kansas and Idaho and North Dakota and draw tens of thousands of people - the most since the 1930s- you're a phenomenon. The fact that Hillary held her own and basically drew even against that was nothing short of phenomenal, which she doesn't get enough credit for. In fact, my main worry is that she wont be able to become the candidate she was in late spring/early summer '08 again. That Hillary I think could win the General for sure.
79  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: MSNBC embarassment: Network pulls in avg of 55,000 viewers on: February 20, 2015, 12:39:15 pm
I think my point was more that, just because we're not all watching MSNBC, it doesn't mean U.S. liberals have lost interest in politics.
80  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Cohn (NYT): "No equivalence" between Clinton's 2008 strength and 2016 strength on: February 20, 2015, 12:32:51 pm
The real question is whether her win against the Republicans is inevitable. I don't think so.

Obviously not. No one is saying so.
81  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: MSNBC embarassment: Network pulls in avg of 55,000 viewers on: February 20, 2015, 12:31:15 pm
I haven't watched TV regularly since 1999.

Do you want a medal?

I deserve one for being superior, no?
82  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / 57% now support sending U.S. ground troops to fight ISIS on: February 20, 2015, 12:19:16 pm
http://www.pollingreport.com/isis.htm

Support has been steadily rising.
September - 39%
Early October - 44%
Late October - 47%
February - 57%
83  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Poor democracy (India) vs. Wealthier dictatorship (China)? on: February 20, 2015, 10:57:18 am
False dichotomy.

No one is saying it isn't. Lame cop out answer.

And you still think the question is meaningful? lol.

So if someone asks you if you'd rather have x-ray vision or fly, do you yell "neither of those is possible!"

The correct analogy is more like 'would you rather go to war with Iran and have a strong America or negotiate with Iran and be a cheese eating surrender monkey?' It's a leading question that implies a dichotomy which is false.

What is false about it? I think the description of India as a poor democracy and China as a wealthier dictatorship is fairly accurate, no?

There are, uh, some other differences between India and China besides those two.

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As for the question, the answer is wherever I would be richer. If my standard of living was the same in both places, I would obviously choose the democracy. Otherwise I would go with the dictatorship, which is actually not that bad as long as you keep your mouth shut and do your job. Democracy is great, but it still sucks to be a poor.

Tell that to the parents of an only child who died in a car accident, who couldn't have another child because of government policy, and are now too old to. All the wealth in the world is meaningless if one has nothing to live for.
84  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: MSNBC embarassment: Network pulls in avg of 55,000 viewers on: February 20, 2015, 09:29:13 am
I haven't watched TV regularly since 1999.
85  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is feminism the solution to what MRAs often complain about? on: February 20, 2015, 09:28:01 am
Goodness gracious, atlas really needs to ban discussions about feminism. I really don't know why I allowed myself to get sucked into these threads.

     Yeah, this thread is also why we can't have nice things. Other than Marokai's posts, everything about this is bad, bad, and more bad.

lol
86  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Poor democracy (India) vs. Wealthier dictatorship (China)? on: February 20, 2015, 09:24:41 am
False dichotomy.

No one is saying it isn't. Lame cop out answer.

And you still think the question is meaningful? lol.

So if someone asks you if you'd rather have x-ray vision or fly, do you yell "neither of those is possible!"

The correct analogy is more like 'would you rather go to war with Iran and have a strong America or negotiate with Iran and be a cheese eating surrender monkey?' It's a leading question that implies a dichotomy which is false.
87  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is feminism the solution to what MRAs often complain about? on: February 20, 2015, 12:51:29 am
Goodness gracious, atlas really needs to ban discussions about feminism. I really don't know why I allowed myself to get sucked into these threads.
88  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Poor democracy (India) vs. Wealthier dictatorship (China)? on: February 20, 2015, 12:47:31 am
False dichotomy.

No one is saying it isn't. Lame cop out answer.

And you still think the question is meaningful? lol.
89  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: CA-Field Poll: Walker/Bush & Hillary ahead on: February 19, 2015, 09:52:14 pm
Christie is polling below Perry in CA?
90  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: FL: Debbie Wasserman Schultz considering Senate run in 2016 on: February 19, 2015, 08:50:24 pm

1. This is an old story
2. DWS voted in support of pot decriminalization for D.C. and supported Florida's Charlotte's Web law, which legalizes the use of medicinal marijuana in Florida
3. Her position on one of the bills the pot lobby opposes her for is due to her opposition to federalism
4. Marijuana is a minor issue in the grand scheme of things
5. These groups have a history of wildly exaggerating and misrepresenting DWS's positions
6. She has a progressive punch score (crucial votes) of 82%, compared to 45% for Patrick Murphy
91  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ukraine Crisis on: February 19, 2015, 12:05:03 pm
That's fair enough, I'll admit that all of these wars have had some reactive element to them from Russia's part. You were not defending the wars, you just pointed out that they didn't come out of nowhere. You're right in that.

The Chechen nationalists were undoubtedly horrible, but they were not IS. The government & most people who supported it were secular, but the government was too weak to control the Islamists. It was the latter that attacked Dagestan. The Chechen "government" offered Russia to crack down on the Islamists, but it was refused and a full scale invasion launched instead. In any case, I never said I supported the "brave Chechen Muhadjins". It is well known that both sides committed the worst atrocities in that war.

Putin's real problem is that he's too old. He still sees things from the Cold War KGB mentality which he never left behind. Otherwise, why would he even care that Ukraine is pro-Western? In his mind, pro-Western = anti-Russian (to be fair many others have this mentality too, but Putin only reinforces it).
92  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is feminism the solution to what MRAs often complain about? on: February 19, 2015, 11:33:26 am
Dude, do you have any recollection of Steubenville?  Basically the whole town was up in arms that "how could you besmirch the honor of our sainted football players!"  And that's not an isolated incident, that's basically de rigeur in our culture even when they're not on the team.  If you make a rape accusation, be prepared to have people think you're a monster for accusing their friends, who "could never have done it!".  Be prepared for opposing counsel to try and dig through your sex life to prove that you were a dirty slut "asking for it".  Be prepared to have to re-live your trauma, under the klieg lights of the press and disapproving social circles and the witness stand.  Be prepared, even if you do everything right by the book to end up in situations like these:

Can the bolded part really be avoided though? While disgusting, it is their job to use any argument that could prove beneficial for their client (whether that involves appealing to the prejudices of the jury, or anything else). That certainly isn't unique to rape cases.

How would we feel if prosecutors appealed to racist stereotypes in order to win higher conviction rates against black men? Even if true, that "anything goes" kitchen sink strategy is sound legal ethics from perspective of counsel, it doesn't we as a wider society should condone it.
93  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Kurds on: February 19, 2015, 11:16:24 am
They should have their own country. But I don't think a minority of Kurds can rule over a majority of Sunnis, so they won't be the solution to ISIS.
94  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ukraine Crisis on: February 19, 2015, 11:00:21 am
Putin has been on the offensive since the Second Chechen War (1999-2002). If the West was really as anti-Russian as the paranoid Putin fanatics claim, the human rights abuses committed there would have been a much bigger problem for Putin. The next stage was Georgia (2008), a small state outside of Europe with existing de facto independent puppet states within it. Ukraine (2014-15) is the latest stage, a large state within Europe, with no previous conflict before this. It is a pattern of steady escalation in his 15 year career, with marked acceleration recently. But I don't think the pattern has ever changed.

Yes that's sounds impressive, if you completely ignore the history behind the two earlier war. Let's remember that Chechnya beside being a earlier version of IS was negotiate for independence from Russia and was close to get it, before the geniuses decided to invade Dagestan and of course at the same there was a terror campaign in Russia which the Chechen was blamed for (it's believed it wasn't a false flag operation, but honestly we don't know for sure).

As for South Ossetian it was a Russian puppet set up under Jeltsin, whose autonomy Georgia decided to end. Which was a major reason we decided to ignore that war.

The Russian conflicts while not acceptable have been purely reactive to outside pressure, not expansionistic.


Chechen independence movement was hardly IS. It started as a rebel movement of an ethnic minority seeking political independence... precisely what Putin claims the Ukrainian rebels currently are. It didn't become radicalized until later. South Ossetia has never been recognized as an independent state, and Russia ended the war with military bases where it previously did not have them, so the result was expansionist, not purely defensive.
95  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ukraine Crisis on: February 19, 2015, 10:26:37 am
Putin has been on the offensive since the Second Chechen War (1999-2002). If the West was really as anti-Russian as the paranoid Putin fanatics claim, the human rights abuses committed there would have been a much bigger problem for Putin. The next stage was Georgia (2008), a small state outside of Europe with existing de facto independent puppet states within it. Ukraine (2014-15) is the latest stage, a large state within Europe, with no previous conflict before this. It is a pattern of steady escalation in his 15 year career, with marked acceleration recently. But I don't think the pattern has ever changed.
96  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Poor democracy (India) vs. Wealthier dictatorship (China)? on: February 19, 2015, 10:00:18 am
False dichotomy.
97  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Best BRICS leader? on: February 19, 2015, 09:51:09 am
Bleak bunch, but Dilma is pretty much the obvious answer.
98  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: FL: Debbie Wasserman Schultz considering Senate run in 2016 on: February 18, 2015, 06:47:33 pm
I'd much rather lose with DWS than lose with Charlie Crist, but DWS will win provided she runs a moderate campaign focused on bread and butter issues.

Even if Rubio runs for re-election? Really?

And has DWS ever talked about bread and butter issues in her whole career?

She's always had a safe House seat. Rubio has a 40/41 approval rating, so he's vulnerable. She'll have to find some way to shore up the Hispanic vote for sure.
99  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: FL: Debbie Wasserman Schultz considering Senate run in 2016 on: February 18, 2015, 06:05:50 pm
I'd much rather lose with DWS than lose with Charlie Crist, but DWS will win provided she runs a moderate campaign focused on bread and butter issues.
Why not run Patrick Murphy on the same platform? You can win and have a halfway decent person as Senator at the same time!

Because, DWS is great!
100  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: FL: Debbie Wasserman Schultz considering Senate run in 2016 on: February 18, 2015, 05:40:56 pm
I'd much rather lose with DWS than lose with Charlie Crist, but DWS will win provided she runs a moderate campaign focused on bread and butter issues.
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