Let's assume that Ross Perot was welcomed back home in the USA after rescuing EDS employees who were held hostage in Iran and in 1980 he decides to run for President as an independent. He chooses Sen. John B. Anderson from Illinois to be his running mate.

How would the election go? What would a map look like? What would be the electoral vote and popular vote totals?

Giuliani entering the Presidential race as an independent? Wow! I'm sure he would've seeked the Reform Party's nod. Maybe he could've won the race?

Cuomo would have won by a very narrow margin. It also depends on whether or not Perot stays in the race. He was polling strongly when he withdrew from the race. But assuming that he drops out, here's how I imagine the electoral map looking:



Mario Cuomo/Ann Richards (D): 40% of the PV, 301 Electoral Votes
George H.W. Bush/Dan Quayle (R): 40% of the PV, 237 Electoral Votes
H. Ross Perot/Andrew Stockdale (I): 20% of the PV

Wait! What would happen if Perot stayed thru the whole race and hadn't dropped out? How does he do with the popular vote? Does he win any states??

I do agree the odds are against Ron Paul beating Obama. A good mix of circumstances would've had to happen (for example, the US gets into a Great Depression and/or a possible WW3) in order for Ron to be able to win. Rand Paul would have a much better chance of getting elected President.

I find it ridiculous how many think that just because Ron is "unelectable", they think Rand would be the same.

Would you guys care to make a map with the popular vote included? Remember, we're talking about RAND Paul not RON Paul. o-O

OK, how would a scenario look under a Rand Paul vs. Hillary Clinton race? How would the electoral map and popular vote look like??

OK, I know this is far-fetched but let's assume the following.

Ron Paul decides to accept the Prez nomination of the Libertarians. His running mate is Gary Johnson.

Rand Paul, on the other hand, decides to go with Romney and campaigns for him to an extent.

Question: what would be a realistic scenario if the race were Obama v. Romney v. Paul? What would the popular vote look like? What would the electoral vote look like? Would Paul be able to get into any of the debates or not?

"Voting mayhem in swing states' voting machines causes America to go without a President...yet". I was thinking about "Libertarians did it! They reached the 5% threshold and qualify for federal funding in 2016" but the first headline could actually happen. o-O

I'd love to see the Electoral Votes be allocated proportionally by state. First round: divide the votes of all candidates by the number of electors in that state, then divide the candidate's votes by the quota and the number of electors are allocated. Second round: all unallocated electors are pooled nationwide, using all the unused or surplus votes, with all candidates that have won at least 3 electors to qualify for the nationwide allocation; all the votes for the unviable candidates are given to the voter's following choice.

It would be very funny. Imagine if Ron somehow pulls off a miracle and wins Maine by write-in, then Romney wins "Paulitically"-controlled GOP states (NV, IA, for example) and many Paul Presidential Electors vote for Ron.

I know it's highly unlikely but let's assume Ron Paul were to get the vote of many "faithless electors" in Romney states. What would happen if this happened?

I think I'm not the only one here who's asking "Who's going to put a map of those elections?"

This isn't a stupid question. I'm just wondering if any of you think any third party candidate will do good nationwide in the popular vote or if you think they'll do well in some states (if so, say which ones).

No other maps?? Let's see if I'll come up with one soon!

Ok, guys, let's assume that this year, Obama gets re-elected with a strong margin over Romney and wins big in the Electoral College with over 350 Electors. Stein gets about 3% of the vote while Johnson picks up in the final days before Election Day and is willing to get 9% of the vote, winning a couple of Electoral Votes.

Final 2012 Presidential Election Results:

Obama 46% 360 EV
Romney 39% 168 EV
Johnson 9% 10 EV (NM, ME-2, NE-2, AK)
Stein 3% 0 EV
Others 3% 0 EV

For 2016, Obama ends his term qith more unpopular measures getting by. The GOP looks at this time as the perfect time to get somebody responsible in.

The race is between Senator Rand Paul, Senator Marco Rubio and Governor Chris Christie.

What would a GOP Presidential Primary map look like and what would the vote totals be?

This would be like Illinois' cumulative voting system, where voters get a number of votes equal to the number of seats and they can allocate their votes anyway they want. This is what I'm proposing for the Electoral College, let voters in every state get a number of electoral votes equal to the number of electoral votes to be cast in that state.

If you live in Wyoming, you'll get 3 electoral votes. If you live in California, you get 55 electoral votes.

I always thought that a good way to reform the Electoral College would be to give each voter a number of Electoral Votes equal to their state's total number of Presidential Electors.

This would allow for cleaner campaigning on behalf of the Democratic and Republican candidates, who usually go into negative attack ads trying to get all the undecided/swing voters.

So, if you live in Wyoming and get 3 electoral votes, or in California and you get 55 electoral votes, candidates would have to go after your votes.

BTW, what I'm proposing isn't a violation of the "one-man/one-vote rule".

What would happen if Gary Johnson decides to swing by AZ and is able to take away some Romney voters and makes the state competitive??

I've been reading about the news of Americans Elect. On May 17th, the primary process was over and no candidate met the threshold needed to get into the online caucus. However, they're not ruling out choosing a Presidential ticket for this election.

They have ballot access in 29 states: Alabama, Arizona, Alaska, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Hawaii, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Utah, Vermont, Wisconsin, Wyoming.

The question is will they finally end up nominating somebody or not?

I have an idea! What about the following idea?

Why don't we allocate the electoral votes from each state by county? If you want to have an idea as to what I'm proposing, I'd suggest going to this website:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/ID-R

I'd like to see the Presidential Primaries play out using the Progressive Plan!

Yeah, nice try!

Sorry if this doesn't have anything to do with this great thread but I was wondering where could I find the thread talking about the Conservative Coalition running a Presidential candidate in both the Republican and Democratic primaries? I don't remember what year it was supposed to be though.

I need help looking for a Congressional District breakdown of the results from Ohio. Especially districts 6, 9 and 13.

I've got an honest question to ask here about the Loophole Primary in Pennsylvania and Illinois. OK, so each voter in each district gets to vote for x number of delegates and the top x vote-getters are chosen?