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1  Questions and Answers / Presidential Election Process / Re: Electoral College or Popular Vote? on: March 12, 2014, 02:05:43 pm
Sometimes I wonder, what if each state or region were to choose its own Presidential candidate? :O
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Presidential Elections with a Playoff Method! :O on: January 27, 2014, 07:22:16 pm
There are 2 proposals I favor.

The first one is having the 6 candidates be paired up in 3 brackets. Follow the Top 6 playoff format used in the British Super League (Rugby) from 2002-2008.

The second one is using a double elimination format.

My proposal is to have the brackets be different state by state and also not give the Democrats and Republicans a free pass to the next round everywhere. Polling won't determine the ranking and as to whether a candidate has a bye for the following round or must play a qualification round. This would be done at random, where a candidate who's polling first in a state may get stuck with being number 6 in the bracket while a candidate polling sixth in a state may get stuck with being number 1 in the bracket. This would make it interesting and, if implemented in 2012, there would've been states where Obama and Romney would've faced off to eliminate one another in the first round or semifinals while Johnson or another candidate could've made it to the final! Smiley

3  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: President Forever results thread... on: January 27, 2014, 06:17:19 pm
Christie wins in landslide!


Chris Christie accepting the Republican Party's nomination for President in August 2016


Final results:

Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R): 70,879,062 (54.4%)
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D): 55,350,689 (42.5%)
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L): 4,009,426 (3.1%)



Christie/Ayotte (R): 385 electoral votes
Cuomo/Klobuchar (D): 153 electoral votes
Johnson/Ventura (L): 0 electoral votes

Could you please show how Gary Johnson did state by state?? Smiley
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Presidential Elections with a Playoff Method! :O on: January 27, 2014, 05:12:54 pm
What would happen if the Presidential Elections weren't Round-Robin but using a Playoff method like in all American sports leagues?

For example, in 2012, there were 6 candidates that were either on enough state ballots to hypothetically win an Electoral College majority: Obama, Romney, Johnson, Stein, Goode and Anderson.

Here's how the bracket would look like!

1st round: 1st-bye (W1); 3rd-6th (W2); 4th-5th (W3); 2nd-bye (W4)
Semifinal: W1-W2 (WA); W3-W4 (WB)
Final: WA-WB

In each state, the candidates receiving a bye in the first round or playing the first round playoffs would be random, giving all candidates an equal chance.

What do you guys think would happen with this proposal? Smiley
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Pissed Rand 2016: Running for Prez as an Indy! :O on: January 24, 2014, 03:29:32 pm
Here's my map. I don't know if you guys would agree or not, but let's assume Rand has a decent campaign with tons of media coverage and debate inclusion.

6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Ron Paul Pissed in 2K12: Runs for Prez as a Libertarian! on: January 22, 2014, 11:42:54 pm
Let's assume that Ron Paul actually did decide to run for President as an independent, after the RNC changed the nomination rules from getting a plurality in 5 states to 8 states.

He runs with Gary Johnson on the Libertarian ticket, while he faces Romney and Obama. How do the polls look? What about maps? Electoral vote and popular vote? Smiley
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Pissed Rand 2016: Running for Prez as an Indy! :O on: January 22, 2014, 10:50:20 pm
Let's assume that Rand Paul is leading for most of the season the Republican nomination count. The Convention arrives and a repeat of the 1912 version pops up, when establishment Republican delegates turn their backs on him and nominate Chris Christie. Rand Paul decides to run as an independent.

The race is between Paul (I) v. Christie (R) v. Hillary (D).

How would the race go? A map? How do the electoral and popular vote go? Smiley
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Alternative Elections / 2016 on fire: Rand goes independent for President! on: January 22, 2014, 01:25:17 am
Let's assume that Rand Paul is leading for most of the season the Republican nomination count. The Convention arrives and a repeat of the 1912 version pops up, when establishment Republican delegates turn their backs on him and nominate Chris Christie. Rand Paul decides to run as an independent.

The race is between Paul (I) v. Christie (R) v. Hillary (D).

How would the race go? A map? How do the electoral and popular vote go? Smiley
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Alternative Elections / 2016 with a 3rd party: Snowden runs for President as an independent!! on: January 20, 2014, 09:06:50 pm
OK, let's assume that Edward Snowden comes back to the USA. He goes to court but the Supreme Court finds that he's not guilty. It's 2015 and the third parties would agree on putting Snowden to run for President.

Question: in a race between Snowden (I) vs Hillary (D) vs Christie (R), what happens? How do the maps look? What are the electoral and popular vote totals? Smiley
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Primary Map: Christie vs Paul on: January 07, 2014, 10:46:48 pm


Paul manages to win the Iowa Caucuses with a small plurality; his best performances are confined to small caucus states (Alaska, Maine, Kansas) and to states where the far-right Republican Party is strongly against Christie (Oklahoma and Louisiana). The evangelicals and SoCons who dominate the Missouri GOP feel they have no candidate who speaks for them, and a plurality of caucus-goers choose "Unpledged." Paul withdraws from the race at the end of April, allowing Christie to win the later contests like Utah and South Dakota with 70+ percent of the vote.

I honestly think a Christie-Paul race could be interesting! Rand decides to focus on winning every single caucus state and does so (Iowa, Nevada, Maine, Minnesota, Colorado, Alaska, Idaho, North Dakota, Missouri, Kansas, Guam, American Samoa, Virgin Islands, Marianas, Hawaii, Louisiana, Nebraska, Montana, Wyoming), he also creates a strong wall in the South, winning Kentucky and Texas thanks to the Paul brand name and wins neighboring states New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennessee, Indiana, Virginia, West Virginia, Illinois, Indiana and Ohio.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Radioactive: Politics of the 21st Century on: November 27, 2013, 02:38:12 pm
Me too. But I'd like to see the poster continue with this! Smiley
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Radioactive: Politics of the 21st Century on: November 27, 2013, 02:00:42 pm
Why no love for this thread? I'd love to see if this race goes to the House or not! Smiley
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Radioactive: Politics of the 21st Century on: November 07, 2013, 11:55:10 am
When is this coming back? I'd like to see what will happen with the other results! Smiley
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Re: Perot/Paul '92!! on: July 26, 2013, 07:29:08 am
I was wondering what if Perot chose Colin Powell as his Veep in 1992.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Re: Perot/Paul '92!! on: July 23, 2013, 09:29:22 pm
OK, what would happen if the independent ticket were Ross Perot/Jerry Brown? :O
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Perot/Paul '92!! on: July 23, 2013, 02:20:55 pm
What if Ross Perot decides to choose Ron Paul as his Veep in 1992? Let's assume that Ron Paul changes his residency to Kentucky.

What would the results be? Popular vote, electoral vote and maps!? Smiley
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Primaries with IRV on: July 15, 2013, 12:42:02 am
I think IRV would allow for any candidate that has a virtual chance of winning continue in a runoff. That would be middle ground between having a Top2 IRV and a Drop1ARound IRV. Plus, I think all candidates that sum up a total of at least 67% of all votes should be another idea.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Re: 2012 with 100% voter turnout on: July 08, 2013, 09:42:48 pm
I expect Obama's margin to grow and Johnson to pass the 5% nationwide! Cheesy
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: predict the first six primaries/caucuses on: May 29, 2013, 01:31:27 am
I would like to see reform in the primaries and caucuses! I propose that each state holds both a primary and a caucus; the primary delegates allocated are proportional to the winning candidate's popular vote in the primary, while the remaining delegates would be allocated at the caucus! Cheesy
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Libertarians go wild in 1980! Reagan and Goldwater run for President together! on: May 24, 2013, 01:08:34 am
I'll give you a brief on Reagan and Goldwater:


- Reagan ran for Governor the first time as a Republican in 1967; he got re-elected in 1971 as an independent and switched to the Libertarians in 1972.

- Goldwater ran for the Senate in '68 as a GOP and in '74 and '80 as a Libertarian.

Do you have a map of what could happen? Tongue
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Libertarians go wild in 1980! Reagan and Goldwater run for President together! on: May 23, 2013, 03:27:13 pm
OK, I know you folks might think this is absurd but I find this interesting.

Assume that Reagan never ran as a Republican and was a Libertarian Party member. He decides to pick Goldwater as Veep and the Libertarians get a huge publicity boost. Now, the Republicans pick the Anderson/Weicker ticket while Democrats stay with Carter/Mondale.

Predict how this race would turn out with popular vote and Electoral Vote totals please! Smiley
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Ross Perot saves the day in Iran with EDS employees and runs for Prez in '80!! on: January 27, 2013, 09:52:46 pm
Let's assume that Ross Perot was welcomed back home in the USA after rescuing EDS employees who were held hostage in Iran and in 1980 he decides to run for President as an independent. He chooses Sen. John B. Anderson from Illinois to be his running mate.

How would the election go? What would a map look like? What would be the electoral vote and popular vote totals? Smiley
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Alternative Elections / Re: The Presidential Election of 2001 on: January 10, 2013, 10:50:39 am
Giuliani entering the Presidential race as an independent? Wow! I'm sure he would've seeked the Reform Party's nod. Maybe he could've won the race? Tongue
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Alternative Elections / Re: Cuomo vs. Bush vs. Perot 92 on: December 06, 2012, 03:07:14 am
Cuomo would have won by a very narrow margin. It also depends on whether or not Perot stays in the race. He was polling strongly when he withdrew from the race. But assuming that he drops out, here's how I imagine the electoral map looking:



Mario Cuomo/Ann Richards (D): 40% of the PV, 301 Electoral Votes
George H.W. Bush/Dan Quayle (R): 40% of the PV, 237 Electoral Votes
H. Ross Perot/Andrew Stockdale (I): 20% of the PV

Wait! What would happen if Perot stayed thru the whole race and hadn't dropped out? How does he do with the popular vote? Does he win any states??
25  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Could Ron Paul have won? on: November 27, 2012, 05:16:35 pm
I do agree the odds are against Ron Paul beating Obama. A good mix of circumstances would've had to happen (for example, the US gets into a Great Depression and/or a possible WW3) in order for Ron to be able to win. Rand Paul would have a much better chance of getting elected President.

I find it ridiculous how many think that just because Ron is "unelectable", they think Rand would be the same.
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