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76  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Not happy, John on: November 09, 2005, 05:19:54 pm
Christine Nixon, Victorian police commissioner, has stated, completely correctly and very publicly, that the arrests would have gone ahead without the new legislation.

There was a) no reason to change the laws; b)no reason to rush the industrial relations laws through in 5 days whilst everyone was concerned about this, and c) (as the judge in the committal hearings said) absolutely NO reason for it to be held up this long from all the evidence they have seen (which leads to at least as suspicion of delaying the arrests until a politically opportune time).

Maybe he didn't make it all up, I'll accept that. But he was certainly irresponsible, certainly used the opportunity for every political gain he could squeeze out of it, and certainly has to go.

Hughento,

So you admit that your comment claiming Howard fabricated the terror alert was wrong? Is it still your contention that the leader of your great nation, and I do believe Australia is a great nation, would stoop to the level of inventing a phony threat for political reasons?
77  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: "Religion of Peace" strikes again. (Jordan) on: November 09, 2005, 05:17:23 pm
States,

I am truly shocked. Perhaps we shouldn't rush to any conclusions that this was done by Islamic extremists. You never know, this might have been done by George Bush or John Howard as a way to draw attention away from the lack of WMD found in Iraq. It's my understanding that the riots in France were actually started by Dick Cheney in an effort to draw international attention away from the Scooter Libby indictment...LMFAO

Yes, the boys from the "Religion of Peace" never rest...
78  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would you rather live in Thailand or Camden? on: November 09, 2005, 05:11:25 pm
Opebo,

Yeah, right. I hope you enjoy your fried dog intestines from those street vendors in Bang-Cock. What a joke you have become...
79  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: OFFICIAL embarassing Gubernatoral quotes thread on: November 08, 2005, 11:02:02 pm
Scoonie,

Really? Must have missed that one. I condemn his statement if he said that, and I wish nobody on my side would make such statements. I believe we should leave the "unhinged" behavior to you and your comrades.
80  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: 2006 preview on: November 08, 2005, 11:00:15 pm
Tweed,

That was pretty darn good for a 10th Grade report. Well done. One question though...if Santorum loses in PA and Kennedy wins in MN, how does that add up to Democratic gain in the Senate?
81  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which philosopher has been your greatest influence? on: November 08, 2005, 10:54:25 pm
Plato, John Locke or James Madison.
82  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would you rather live in Thailand or Camden? on: November 08, 2005, 10:53:04 pm
Camden...at least I could get decent food, plus as long as I have my rights under the 2nd Amendment, I have a pretty decent chance to not get killed.
83  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: OFFICIAL embarassing Gubernatoral quotes thread on: November 08, 2005, 10:50:03 pm
Scoonie,

Yes, the maturity level is often sadly lacking, but some of the people on this forum do maintain a solid level of discourse. Sadly, you have decided to take one of the lowest roads I've seen on this forum, and that's really saying something on a site with people like JFern, NixonNow, Miss Catholic, etc, etc, etc...
84  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: OFFICIAL embarassing Gubernatoral quotes thread on: November 08, 2005, 10:44:30 pm
Scoonie,

Nice performance the past few days. Extremely mature.
85  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: rank the presidents since 1968.... on: November 08, 2005, 10:38:00 pm
Supersoulty,

Yes, but virtually all of Ford's comeback was fueled by Carter's inept campaign and this amazing ability to stick his foot in his mouth. Ford actually would have come all the way back and won, but in a debate, he stated that Eastern Europe was not under Soviet domination...and then given a chance to correct himself, he stood by his sub-moronic comment.

The 1976 race was one of the saddest chapters in the history of the Republic. We had a borderline Marxist (Carter) pretending to be an orthodox Christian moderate, running against...an empty suit. Carter may be one of the most vile and despicable men in the history of the United States, but Ford was just plain DUMB.
86  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: *Official Election 2005 Results Thread* on: November 08, 2005, 09:59:51 pm
Mark,

Democrat wins a close win in a weakly Republican state in a race where the Republican was, for a long time, heavily favoured.

Republican wins an expeccted landslide in a heavily Democratic city.

Which is more immediately exciting?  The first, because it is not expected.  It is natural human emotion to be excited about competitive races.  I don't see why it surprises you that Democrats are exciting.

Alcon, I see your point, but all the polls I saw in the last week showed that Kaine was EXPECTED to win. Sure he was way behind in the early stages of the race, but this is not a huge upset. I do agree that this is a race Republicans SHOULD have won, but it's not the "drive to realignment" that the media types are spinning.
87  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: *Official Election 2005 Results Thread* on: November 08, 2005, 09:56:54 pm
Spin it baby, spin it.

Nick,

That's spin?Huh New Jersey is a staunch Democratic state and Virginia is a close Republican state that is coming off a tremendous 4-year run by one of the most popular and effective Democratic Governors in recent memory. Where is it at ALL surprising that the Dems would win both of these races???

The real SPIN has come in the past few weeks as the mainstream media has made these races into so-called "proxy battles" between Bush and the Democratic Party.

The Democrats won two potentially close races.  What, they are not supposed to be happy about that?  If they were saying that this is a big chance toward Democratic leadership, I would disagree strongly, but being happy about victories is fine.

Alcon, I essentially agree with what you said. My comments are aimed at the gleeful Dems who are viewing these races as a "proxy battle" between Bush and the Dems in general.
88  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: *Official Election 2005 Results Thread* on: November 08, 2005, 09:54:48 pm
Spin it baby, spin it.

Nick,

That's spin?Huh New Jersey is a staunch Democratic state and Virginia is a close Republican state that is coming off a tremendous 4-year run by one of the most popular and effective Democratic Governors in recent memory. Where is it at ALL surprising that the Dems would win both of these races???

The real SPIN has come in the past few weeks as the mainstream media has made these races into so-called "proxy battles" between Bush and the Democratic Party.

I wasnt pointing you out in particular.  I just find it funny that when Democrats celebrate two solid victories you and others point out how desperate we are.  Let us celebrate, it was a good night for us.  And if we win big CA, it will have been a great night.

That's a fair point Nick. My point though is that many Democrats are turning the Virginia election into a referendum on Bush, and that's just ridiculous.
89  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: *Official Election 2005 Results Thread* on: November 08, 2005, 09:52:48 pm
I can't wait for the conservatives to spin this one.

Democrats keep Democratic Gubernatorial offices. Spin or fact?  Tongue

Phil,

You are right, of course. However, let the Leftists have their moment of glory tonight. If they want to get this excited about RETAINING two Governorships, then it gives you a pretty good idea just how bad off they have been in recent years. So let the Dems and their fellatio partners in the Mainstream Media have their day in the sun, and let's put our focus back on keeping the nation strong and vital.

A Democrat is looking to win with a majority of the vote in Virginia, in which, originally, Kilgore was by far and away the favorite, and which is a state that is not exactly known for its Democratic streak.

If a Republican won in the heart of New England, would you not consider this a very good thing?

Gabu,

A Republican DID win in New York, which is far more Democratic than Virginia is Republican. Also, Virginia was held by a very effective and very popular Democratic Governor, who was pretty much given the free hand to appoint his successor. This victory in Virginia is more about the sound government of the Warner Administration than it is a repudiation of George Bush as Dems are trying to spin.
90  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: *Official Election 2005 Results Thread* on: November 08, 2005, 09:50:38 pm
Spin it baby, spin it.

Nick,

That's spin?Huh New Jersey is a staunch Democratic state and Virginia is a close Republican state that is coming off a tremendous 4-year run by one of the most popular and effective Democratic Governors in recent memory. Where is it at ALL surprising that the Dems would win both of these races???

The real SPIN has come in the past few weeks as the mainstream media has made these races into so-called "proxy battles" between Bush and the Democratic Party.
91  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: rank the presidents since 1968.... on: November 08, 2005, 09:46:28 pm
This is very, very easy.

1. Reagan
2. George W. Bush
3. Nixon
4. George Bush Sr.
5. Clinton
6. Ford
7. The alien who took control of Jimmy Carter's body in about 1974.
92  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: *Official Election 2005 Results Thread* on: November 08, 2005, 09:42:44 pm
I can't wait for the conservatives to spin this one.

Democrats keep Democratic Gubernatorial offices. Spin or fact?  Tongue

Phil,

You are right, of course. However, let the Leftists have their moment of glory tonight. If they want to get this excited about RETAINING two Governorships, then it gives you a pretty good idea just how bad off they have been in recent years. So let the Dems and their fellatio partners in the Mainstream Media have their day in the sun, and let's put our focus back on keeping the nation strong and vital.
93  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Rioting in Paris on: November 08, 2005, 05:57:01 pm
Michael,

You're partially right, but the plain truth is that not only has Europe failed to assimilate immigrants on a economic level, but they have also failed on a cultural level despite their well-intentioned, feel-good rhetoric. The whole "multi-cultural" model merely creates a society of large groups of individuals who have no connection to each other. In France, which has failed far worse than most European nations, the Socialist Welfare state combined with "respect" for diversity creates a short term "good feeling" among the dominant class, but it has proven a prescription for long term disaster.
94  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Not happy, John on: November 08, 2005, 05:52:57 pm
I just wanted to bring this thread back to the top so everyone can see Hughento's GENIUS insight into his belief that John Howard manufactured a phony terrorist threat for political reasons. I guess the Howard government should have let those terrorists carry out their plot just to prove the threat was real...one of these centuries, maybe the well-intentioned Utopians on the political left will grow up, and will wake up and discover reality banging them in the forehead.
95  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Would you vote to confirm Islam supporter Alito? on: November 03, 2005, 01:23:47 am
Well, this is gonna shock some folks, but Left of the Dial/Better Red is not as far off base here as many folks are claiming. Yes, his insistence that Alito decided that case wrong is ludicrous, and yes, his condemnation of Dazzleman and StatesRights is equally ludicrous, BUT...

Much of what he has said about the "religion of peace" is right on target. While the majority of Muslims are not running around beheading people, all too many ARE engaged in that sort of behavior. And perhaps more importantly, FAR TOO MANY Muslims who don't actually engage in that sort of behavior, fail to adequately condemn those actions, and in many cases, their silence or tortured rationalizations explaining away such acts, further strengthen the position of the extremists.

I think what Left of the Dial is trying to say (poorly because he's not the sharpest tool in the drawer) is that there is a MAJOR problem with the Islamic Faith, and he is, of course, 100 percent correct. To deny that there is a HUGE problem in Islam today is to deny reality to such an extent that you jeopardize the very existence of future civilization. And the truth is that NEITHER political party has adequately recognized this threat, at least not publicly. Republicans happily spew the lie that this is a "War on Terror" when in fact it is a "War Against Islamic Fascism." And the Democrats don't even acknowledge that a war is required, plus they go around shooting their own country in the foot on a semi-daily basis with their Abu Grabme obsession and their persistent negativity about the progress in the Middle East.

So Left of the Dial may or may not be bigoted against Muslims, but on a political level, he is treading into areas that no one wants to tread out of fear of being labeled racist, etc, etc...but this is a legitimate area of discussion that will eventually need to be contemplated if those of us in the West wish to enjoy a more peaceful future than the world we currently live in. Eventually, Islam will be asked to "purify itself" in order to save itself from external destruction...or, the appeasement crowd who so dominate this forum will continue to carry the debate on their terms, and the West as we know it will fall, and the world will be enveloped by a second Dark Age.

Sound too dramatic? Well, wake the f**ck up boys and girls.
96  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 6 rulings that make Alito unfit for the supreme court. on: November 03, 2005, 01:10:37 am
Vorlon is correct. The Warren Court started a judicial trend of "outcome based" judicial scrutiny. In simple words, they would look at a case, decide what was the "right" side and then construct some kind of rationale to justify their feeling regardless of judicial precedent or logical interpretation of the Constitution. The Griswold case is probably the best example with the emergence of the so-called "penumbra" of rights, which essentially amounted to a blank check for doing whatever the f***ck you wanted in future decisions regardless of established law.
97  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Are black Republicans/Conservatives "Black?" on: November 02, 2005, 09:48:10 pm
We see the "tolerence" wing of the loony left back at it.

Sadly, the "tolerance" wing of the party pretty much has become the party in the 21st Century.
98  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Hannity and Santorum quotes used agaisnt them live on radio by a democrat ca on: November 02, 2005, 09:46:11 pm
Actually you can't blame Miss Catholic for the false quotes, she/he is merely quoting the numerous left wing blogs that have perpetuated these false quotes attributed to Hannity and Santorum. The original origin of the quotes is ironically from Barbara Streisand's website, but once she posted it, every left wing blog on the planet re-posted it. This is one of those "internet" situations where someone posts a lie, then the lie is repeated in so many places that it becomes part of the belief system of the other side, and no evidence in the world can convince the other side of the originally false information. This is kind of like that Gun Control statistic that left wingers like to use that a person is 46 times more likely to shoot himself or a family member than an intruder in the "home defense" use of a weapon. Leftists repeated this as the gospel for nearly a decade, and secondary and more remote journalistic sources were cited as the originator. Finally, a conservative group decided to research the origin of what seemed to be a ludicrous stat. It turns out that one person cited it in a story about ONE COUNTY, and by the time the story was told over and over again by left wingers, it became the gospel truth as a national stat. This sort of thing happens all the time...

Come to think of it, what was Miss Catholic's excuse for never actually appearing on O'Reilly? I almost forgot all about that laughable incident!
99  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: FORUM POLL : Are you happy with bushs nominating Alito for the supreme court on: November 01, 2005, 01:28:44 am
JFern,

What lie might that be? Go back and read this thread. Some of the stuff was edited after the fact, but thanks to cut and paste, a few of the ethnic slurs can still be found and they WERE posted and you leftists said nothing.
100  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: FORUM POLL : Are you happy with bushs nominating Alito for the supreme court on: November 01, 2005, 01:21:40 am
Ebowed,

Despite your Red Avatar, you are not exactly a bastion of left wing ideology. There are, of course, exceptions to every rule, and having read many of your posts, I am aware that you do not fit the all-too-common and all-too-true stereotype of a modern left winger.

By the way, it's good to see a fellow "Goomba" on the forum...LOL
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