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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is "Anti-Racism" a codeword for "Anti-White"? on: January 27, 2015, 08:34:49 pm
No. That's silly.
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Important Announcement—Hagrid for the South! on: January 27, 2015, 08:29:34 pm
Good luck
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Napoleon Memorial Thread #RIP on: January 27, 2015, 07:57:47 pm
That some of you would consider a person we've always known so little of a true friend speaks only to your exceedingly low standards. And to continue to like him after the revelation that in fact, yes, he was a total liar all long means you just have none.
4  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: A spooky coincidence on: January 27, 2015, 02:09:17 am
Yeah, after four years of being a non-disruptive poster on the forum, never considered a troublemaker, even someone who was liked well enough to be elected Atlasian President, Napoleon should be allowed to stay.

You really don't seem to know much about Napoleon then.

I remember back in Napoleon's early days plenty of people were saying this about him down in Atlasia because of our, shall we say, more direct history with Hamilton. I was convinced it was him for ages (Duke knows this more than anyone)... but everytime this was mentioned it never gained traction. That he turns out to be Hamilton is not surprising, but this should've been realized years ago. Amazing.
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Snowstalker on: January 25, 2015, 06:55:39 am
Yeah I also get the sense that Snowstalker is a genuinely good guy personally, it's just much of his posting that could use improvement.
6  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Cindy Sheehan on: January 23, 2015, 07:20:46 am
Clearly has gone off the deep end at this point.
7  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How would you characterize Front National? on: January 22, 2015, 06:31:27 am
What Antonio said.
8  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Theodore Roosevelt on: January 21, 2015, 01:02:32 am
His lasting positive impacts far outweigh "he said crazy things those times." But this is the internet, so guess what a loud minority of people prioritize.

He's one of my favorite Presidents and I find him fascinating. His autobiography is great. My vote goes without saying.
9  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to un-re-ban Libertas on: January 17, 2015, 08:30:39 pm
I would be more receptive to complaints about moderation if they weren't hysterical and based on premises that are transparently false. ("You're all homophobic!" "You just all hate sex!" "There's a conspiracy to ban posters the secret cabal doesn't like!" etc.)
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Are you pro-sex or anti-sex? on: January 17, 2015, 06:50:24 pm
Depends on the context (sane).
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the rebanning of Libertas on: January 17, 2015, 01:43:48 am
The notion that secret abandoned-building orgies are a natural expression of homosexuality is stupid and genuinely offends me.
12  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Moderators, how did you vote? on: January 15, 2015, 06:36:47 pm
And if anyone accuses afleitch of being prudish, this entire site will explode from the irony.
13  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Do child poors get birthday parties? on: January 15, 2015, 06:27:41 pm
Yes, poor people occasionally act like normal humans.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What would you do if the previous poster showed up on your doorstep? on: January 15, 2015, 05:39:36 pm
Invite him out for coffee to deliberately talk about politics.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Was unbanning Libertas the correct decision? on: January 15, 2015, 05:23:51 pm
What Oakvale said is more or less right. I don't give a f**k about Libertas' new political views and think it's transparently shallow that so many people are now defending the guy just because he came back, with nothing else to show for his alleged personal evolution other than "hey guys, I'm a liberal now! and I've been checking my privilege so hard!" and then a bunch of people here started eating it up. Libertas' general behavior is no less disruptive, his attitude no less unhinged, than it ever was before, and if he hadn't made some transformation to generic young gay leftist I would wager half the people that are defending him wouldn't be either.

Even the thought process that led to his unbanning continues to elude me. Like, why? Did someone on the team just wake up one day and feel like unbanning someone so they just threw a dart at the wall? Even if we're going to accept the idea behind unbanning people (which I don't, it seems completely pointless, there is no net-gain here) why him, of all people?

And all the accusations of bigotry and prudery are so ridiculous at this point so as to not even be worth responding to. You do a disservice to the weight behind those words by using them so wantonly.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Liberal opinion of Bill Maher's views on Islam... on: January 15, 2015, 08:08:20 am
I'm not trying to play the "Stop complaining about your four-star meal, there are starving children in Africa" argument. I'm a bit miffed because some of the same people who would tell me I'm some sort of woman-hating monster for liking songs with "bitch" in the lyrics are the same people who would argue we shouldn't be too loud in condemning the more dangerous aspects of Islam because it might make people feel bad.

It's perfectly understandable (and normal) to not be outraged at all the bad things in the world, we have lives to lead and it's natural we would be more focused on what we see in front of us, but to be so hyper-judicious in your social justice activism yet handwave away (and be all "Oh, but come on guys" about) things like "these hundreds of millions of people think I should die if I say something bad about Muhammad and think women should be beaten and not allowed to drive or read" there's some contradiction that happened along that reasoning process.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Liberal opinion of Bill Maher's views on Islam... on: January 15, 2015, 07:39:38 am
And just to get this off my chest:

There are multiple lefties on this forum, TNF and Lief chief among them, that will beat their chests and openly advocate for literally throwing racists, sexists, homophobes, etc, behind bars. Who will completely decimate the reputations of individuals for the slightest of things, who see vicious -isms behind the mildest of transgressions and poor wordings.

There's an enormous irony in the fact that some of the same people who will go on and on about how wildly offensive American culture is because they think it's genuinely patriarchal, about how our entire system is racist and misogynistic top to bottom, are the same ones who run defense and play games of whataboutery when it comes to actually misogynistic ideologies, actual out-and-out racism, and actually violently patriarchal societies. When it's white American racism, it's throw those people behind bars. When it's perceived sexism in media, get rid of that dangerous trash. The tiniest reference to guns in political imagery is "they're encouraging violence against political targets, those monsters!" But when it comes to cultures that are far more intolerant, far more misogynistic, cultures and strains of thought that are far more accepting of violence, it's "well, what about the Christians" and "muh cultural differences, you're being racist and unwelcoming." If a politician here said they believe gays should be put to death, you wouldn't be defending them by saying "well, they go about the rest of their lives totally normal!"

If you're the sort of person that actually gets outraged by every little thing in Western society that someone could maybe, if you look at it the right way and click your heels a few times, be construed as bigoted and violent, there is literally no better target, no more influential of a target, than Middle Eastern countries and all-too-common fundamentalist Islamic thought. Start holding these people to similar standards or throw your standards in the f**king garbage and stop making such a show about how you care about the plight of women and other disadvantaged groups around the world.
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Male Privilege on: January 15, 2015, 12:00:19 am
There are situations in which it pays to be a man. And similarly, there are situations where the opposite is true. Simplistic attempts to determind to what degree is one sex favored over the other (and even here not in any real measursable way)  misses the critical point that different people are put into very different situations over the course of their lives. So, in short, it depends.

Sure, but you're sort of missing the point. To get completely reductionist just for the sake of not typing several paragraphs, male privilege is the notion that males generally have an easier time in society than women. There are certainly situations where women have advantages, but those situations are fewer than when men have advantages. Therefore, general male privilege.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Male Privilege on: January 14, 2015, 11:44:40 pm
Of course it exists. "Privilege" in general is absolutely a real thing. The only major point of argument is to what degree it's useful to beat individuals over the head with an abstract academic concept.
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Liberal opinion of Bill Maher's views on Islam... on: January 14, 2015, 11:37:58 pm
Alcon, people hold troubling views around the world, many times due to their religion, but what I don't get is why are we talking specifically about muslims?

I'm sorry, I don't mean this to sound dickish, but exactly how do you, and so many other people, not grasp the distinction? People talk "specifically" about muslims because there is no comparable religious/political ideology in terms of sheer scope and scale that influences people across the world to justify the subjugation women, gays, and other religious or social groups as much as Islam. "But what about the Christians" is a stupid comparison. Majorities of European and American Christians do not support the death penalty for leaving the religion. Or for virtually any other sin that isn't murder. (Hell, and even then..) Even the "But, Africa!" deflection fails in this regard. Christians, to the degree of Muslims throughout the world, do not support the utter repression of female rights and autonomy, nor to anywhere near the violent degree that they have been held back.

Whenever people defend Islam from these criticisms you keep acting like Islam exists in this fictional scenario where its followers are equally as bigoted or enlightened as any other given religion around the world and are unfairly singled out; this simply isn't reality. They are especially focused on because Islamic society and mainstream Islamic thought for even purported "moderate" countries are especially violent and repressive relative to nearly anywhere else. There is absolutely no denying this. There has been absolute evil carried out in the name of all sorts of religions and ideologies, and I would absolutely criticize those too, but we live in the present.

Look, I don't believe in racial profiling, I think there's absolutely an unfortunate strain of anti-Muslim bigotry that has been born from all of this and we shouldn't give quarter to those people, and I have no reason to feel personally threatened by Muslims I would meet in my life. But we as people who support liberal principles need to stop deluding ourselves about the dangerous beliefs that are being fostered in that religion, and in those societies, and from those governments, and we need to get real about one major thing in particular: These views are not rare, radical sentiments only shared by the fringes of Muslim society. They are frighteningly common relative to nearly any other major religion on the planet right now, and they are dangerous.

To handwave away the repugnant views of these majorities of people by saying "well, they go about the rest of their day living like normal human beings" is absurd. Many terrorists have gone through their lives living completely normal day-to-day, everyone around the oblivious to what was really going on in their heads until the moment something horrific happened; and we're just talking about situations that pop up in the Western world, not the actual theocratic societies that may as well be making these outcomes an inevitability themselves. There is absolutely a huge difference between fundamentalist Islam and violent individual Muslims who end up terrorists, but the difference between fundamentalist Christianity and fundamentalist Islam is that the latter is several orders of magnitude more common, and unlike the former, several orders of magnitude more difficult to criticize because people are afraid it might seem racist to not confront it as they are minorities in our societies, and any criticism of minorities is abhorrent to social justice activists. (Sorry that the co-writer behind Feminist Frequency is turning out to be a crank, traininthedistance.)
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Liberal opinion of Bill Maher's views on Islam... on: January 13, 2015, 04:52:29 pm
If you're comparing current policies of Islamic states, supported by majorities of Muslims, to policies from Catholicism of the 16th and 17th centuries, you're making Maher's point for him. How long have you been a racist, Antonio?
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Andrew Cuomo vs. The Big Bang Theory on: January 12, 2015, 07:36:36 pm
A stupid TV show is a lot less harmful than Cuomo.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Liberal opinion of Bill Maher's views on Islam... on: January 12, 2015, 07:03:10 pm
So I'm guessing this will be another thread that just hates on Bill Maher without responding to anything he specifically said.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of afleitch on: January 11, 2015, 06:02:17 pm
One of my favorite posters.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Good Post Gallery II on: January 06, 2015, 03:12:36 pm
The Atlas prude brigade hates sex with men now, too? 2015 is not looking good. Sad

Are you accusing Marokai of being a homophobe? Roll Eyes

I don't make multiple posts a week talking about boyfriend troubles or which posters I find hot so I guess no one knows I'm gay anymore.
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