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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which of these parties would you vote for? on: May 06, 2015, 08:06:38 pm
Emigration.
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Rachel Notley on: May 06, 2015, 06:02:19 pm
She ran a phenomenal campaign and did what any leader worth their salt does: start with a basic set of ideological principles, then adapt those positions and your rhetoric to the place you are campaigning to win. It felt nice to have a left-wing victory worth feeling good about. Not many of those lately.
3  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Jim Prentice on: May 06, 2015, 02:27:21 pm
ff for his contributions to the ndp :p
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Alberta General Election - May 5th, 2015 on: May 05, 2015, 09:35:07 pm
39-21-12 NDP-PC-WR.

Is it too early to say 'LOL Wildrose'?

Never too early.
5  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of this video game on: May 05, 2015, 04:30:01 pm
I think it's disgusting but I don't think the existence of that game is going to lead to an uptick in the people who want to kill the gays, so I don't really care if it's sold on a proper storefront or not.
6  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Bill Clinton vs. Hillary Clinton on: May 05, 2015, 01:38:17 pm
Easily Hillary.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Texas: two gunmen shot dead after opening fire at Mohammed cartoon contest on: May 05, 2015, 09:53:03 am
I'm perfectly comfortable admitting there are certain situations where dumbass right-wingers (or whoever else) push buttons knowing full well they are provoking a reaction and wanting to make hay out of that reaction. This is probably one of those situations.

I think it's fine to admit there are certain ways you can modulate your chances of becoming the victim of a crime while also agreeing that crime shouldn't be happening in the first place. I wouldn't accept drinks from strangers if I wanted to lower my chances of being raped. I wouldn't walk through a really sketch part of town at night if I wanted to lower my chances of getting mugged. Etc. None of these things should be happening and we should have no tolerance for their occurrence, but obviously we should be able to agree you should try to be more careful if you don't want to experience consequences.

Where I have a bone to pick on this issue is that many people in this debate are not consistent about this, though. Many conservatives would be quick to equivocate if it was their religion being made fun of, and many "progressives" are quick to denounce alleged victim blaming in virtually every other situation, except when it comes to Islam, and then suddenly you should know better, be responsible, and so on.

I actually think Bedstuy's "What if Muslims in a neighborhood are offended by gay people?  Should gay people never hold hands in that neighborhood or should they try to seem less gay?  After all, who are you to judge what muslims might find offensive?" is a great question and was dodged in Deadflag's reply. Where is the line when it comes to respecting the subjective tastes of a group? What should be allowed to offend them and not? This is nearly impossible to judge. What if I deliberately took the hand of my boyfriend when I knew I was walking through a Muslim community, specifically to send a message and ruffle their feathers? Is that unempathetic and tasteless? Why not? I doubt many social justice activists would have the same answer if I was walking through a deeply Christian community. The rules here are awfully arbitrary.

I'm not trying to take anyone's right to be offended away from them, but you don't get some sort of special exemption from art or comedy, no matter how low-brow, based on your status. It's absurd.

As much as I've disagreed with Cinyc in the past, it's hard not to agree with this.

Sorry.  You and the other "punching downward" Charlie Hedbo apologists are simply wrong.  Everything is fair game for satire.  There are no protected classes when it comes to comedy.  You shouldn't get special privileges against criticism by being a member of a special "minority" group, with there being some unpublished, ever-changing hierarchy of which groups are more special than others.  Everyone is in a minority group in their own way, including religious Christians who you have no problem lampooning.  The sacred cows of "progressives" like yourself aren't everyone's sacred cow.

Just because you don't find satire funny when it is directed at Islam doesn't make it impermissible or imprudent.  Nobody is "spitting on the sort of people who drive you to the airport".  They are spitting on religious extremists' call to murder those who don't agree with them and their religion and convert to Islam.  Those people are "The Man" in parts of the Arab world and are more than fair game for criticism and satire.  Not that you have to be "The Man" to be subject to criticism, anyway.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Alberta General Election - May 5th, 2015 on: May 05, 2015, 06:17:06 am
It's a 2% increase for the PCs since Forum's last poll, but there was also a 3% increase for the NDP, and all of that's within the margin of error, so take it for what you will I suppose.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: My Leave of Absence on: May 04, 2015, 07:56:19 pm
You're one of my favorite posters. But I get where you're coming from. Take care of yourself.
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Alberta General Election - May 5th, 2015 on: May 04, 2015, 06:15:54 pm
Insights Poll: 42-27-23-4
11  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: opinion of MGTOW on: May 04, 2015, 07:43:15 am
Pretty horrible.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Alberta General Election - May 5th, 2015 on: May 01, 2015, 11:13:49 pm
The reaction to the NDP lead would be sad if it weren't so predictable.
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Obama referring to the Baltimore protesters as "thugs" on: May 01, 2015, 02:16:44 pm
i see oakvale is continuing his drift to the far right

Being opposed to burning buildings to the ground as an act of protest makes you far-right?

slandering an oppressed minority group for lashing out does.

That is not what either Oakvale or Obama have done.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Happy Loyalty Day! on: May 01, 2015, 01:48:03 pm
What an unbelievably creepy name for a holiday.

The holiday itself seems creepy.
15  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Obama referring to the Baltimore protesters as "thugs" on: May 01, 2015, 01:42:50 pm
i see oakvale is continuing his drift to the far right

Being opposed to burning buildings to the ground as an act of protest makes you far-right?
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What do you think of the word "thug"? on: May 01, 2015, 12:01:03 am
Very context dependent.
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Alberta General Election - May 5th, 2015 on: April 30, 2015, 01:33:25 pm
Now for an Ipsos floating around: 37-26-24-9

Predictable details under the surface. NDP sky-high in Edmonton, and it's a complete tossup damn near everywhere else.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: 2015 Atlas Democratic Primary on: April 30, 2015, 01:28:40 pm
I'll vote for Bernie as he has no real chance of winning the primary, but obviously I have no real objection to voting for Hillary in the general.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Alberta General Election - May 5th, 2015 on: April 30, 2015, 07:44:51 am
The NDP's overall lead is nice and all, but racking up super high numbers in Edmonton doesn't help them anywhere else. If the PCs end up at 30, the NDP would have to blow that number away if they want anything close to a comfortable majority, or a majority alone, and it seems like 40 is a number the NDP can't really crack. Which is an astonishing area to them hovering around in the first place, but still. Everyone says they hate the PCs, but no matter how much that province may be "changing" lately, it's still Alberta and the NDP are still the NDP.
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Midwest Voting Booth: Presidential Pardon Amendment on: April 29, 2015, 11:27:09 pm
Aye
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Midwest Voting Booth: Electoral Reform Amendment on: April 29, 2015, 11:25:12 pm
Aye
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Kids of Republicans pull parents to the left on gay marriage on: April 28, 2015, 10:57:00 pm
Only CCSF could simultaneously rant until he's blue in the face about the disgustingness of "flaunting" homosexuals, but then be deeply outraged when a gay conservative showing his dick pics to others online for funsies is outed for being a gross hypocrite.

CCSF defends flaunting your genitals on the internet confirmed.
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Vote No to the Electoral Reform Amendment on: April 27, 2015, 11:54:53 pm
Complaints about the way districts were ran just ring so hollow to me, anymore. That was, what, 7+ years ago? We have boatloads more people than we did then and many of the individuals in charge have dramatically less interest in this place anymore, if at all. I think we've deserved another try.

Um, considering this system requires an active process every so often, isn't that a bad thing?

I meant from those days. Sorry. Many of the complaints about districting seem to boil down to the way it was implemented by the people that did it back in the day. Such complaints can't last forever.
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Vote No to the Electoral Reform Amendment on: April 27, 2015, 11:50:20 pm
Complaints about the way districts were ran just ring so hollow to me, anymore. That was, what, 7+ years ago? We have boatloads more people than we did then and many of the individuals in charge have dramatically less interest in this place anymore, if at all. I think we've deserved another try.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you hate white people? on: April 27, 2015, 11:48:06 pm
I try not to hate large groups of individuals based on superficial attributes. I was told that was called being liberal-minded.
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