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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sanders and Academia on: July 27, 2015, 09:11:38 pm
Yeah, the social justice types don't care much for Bernie.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Moderator changes: 2015 edition on: July 27, 2015, 05:14:30 pm
The gay agenda wins yet again.
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Convention for Agreement on Regional Consolidation in Atlasia on: July 27, 2015, 05:06:57 pm
x Marokai
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Mike Huckabee: Obama Marching Israelis "To the Door of the Oven" on: July 26, 2015, 10:06:23 pm
10 points for excessive hyperbole.

Honestly we should make this a real thing. We should set up a Fantasy Death Points League where presidential candidates are judged by Atlas moderating standards and at the end of the primaries we should tally up who has the most infractions.
5  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Atlas Moderation in April - 0.22% Mod Rate. You be the Mod Poll on: July 24, 2015, 09:01:33 pm
10 is distasteful but borderline. 6 and 12 are context dependent on the thread or poster but just from this I'd say they weren't deletion worthy. The rest, they were right to be moderated.

Edit: Honestly 11 is pretty context dependent too, so I could also be wrong about that.
6  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Atlas Forum Feedback on: July 23, 2015, 11:14:53 pm
I definitely support a like button, but a dislike button would be pretty terrible. By definition its only contribution would be negative, and it would be used by a lot of posters who simply drive by discussions to s**t it up instead of contribute anything substantive. Positive reinforcement is a great thing, but a dislike button in the hands of a message board community can only be a bad thing.

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The points system is doing more harm than good.

The problem with the infraction point system isn't that it's doing active harm, it's that it just doesn't do anything at all most of the time. Generally, when a user is banned, it isn't because they reached a certain threshold of points naturally (this has maybe happened a couple times, but it is effectively a non-existent phenomenon), rather, it's because the mods specifically set out to ban someone that they decided to ban (for good or bad reason, it varies). This leads to the system just sort of being there not actually doing anything. For that reason alone it should be gotten rid of; it's just a bureaucratic annoyance.

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Moderation stifles debate with censorship

Honestly the only people who think this are the people who want half of the site to be Update and The Tales of Libertas' Gay Drug Orgies. Moderation basically never gets in the way of anything actually worthwhile. No real debate was ever, ever ended through mod censorship. If anything, debates have been derailed due to a lack of mod oversight (see: any thread with CCSF).

Moderation should lean off on the profanity for sure, and I agree the Forum Community board should be hidden from guests because there is literally no reason for them to be able to see it unless they're a member, but as other posters have said before, The Atlas Forum is not your blog.
7  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: How's the communication going now? on: July 23, 2015, 11:04:05 pm
Moderators should certainly be active posters, but I agree with Alcon that it is an important strength of the moderation team that they are specifically not part of the social community of this forum for the most part. Being a mod should have a certain distance from the stupidity and cliquishness that pervades certain parts of Atlas' community. Being well liked is not, and should not, be a job requirement. If the job was all about pleasing people, nothing would ever get done.
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you support the bans of Tweed, BK and AdamGriffin? on: July 22, 2015, 08:16:27 pm
Yes to a perma for Tweed, BK's should be temporary (few months), Griffin shouldn't have been banned at all.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Atlas Forum: Yesterday vs. Today on: July 22, 2015, 04:45:35 pm
I'd consider severe bi-polar disorder a pretty decent mitigating factor.

What!? Tweed used BK's mental state to his advantage. That's the manipulation that people are talking about. It doesn't make it less severe, if anything it makes it worse.

i would think marokai means a mitigating factor for bq, not for tweed

Yes, obviously.
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Petition for a Constitutional Convention, that would reform Atlasia on: July 22, 2015, 04:23:16 pm
x Marokai
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Atlas Forum: Yesterday vs. Today on: July 22, 2015, 04:22:15 pm
I'd consider severe bi-polar disorder a pretty decent mitigating factor.
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of AAD: Yesterday vs. Today on: July 22, 2015, 04:13:38 pm
Doesn't Marokai support gamergate anyway Huh

I've butted heads with him on feminism issues several times (and probably will again in the future) but characterizing his position as pro-GG is a bridge too far.

Thank you.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of AAD: Yesterday vs. Today on: July 22, 2015, 02:09:49 pm
I have a very low opinion of it after what has become the gamergate of this forum.
14  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to unban adamgriffin on: July 22, 2015, 02:07:20 pm
I agree that Griffin should be let back around here because it seems like the ban against him is a hell of a stretch, but arguing that other people should be let back in some sort of "amnesty" is absurd. If you're going to have rules you have to enforce them. You can't just never ban anyone because some people will throw a huge fit.
15  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: So, let's take a breath here and I'll try to explain about what's going on. on: July 22, 2015, 02:04:29 pm
I completely understand how stressful the whole situation is for you guys and how difficult these decisions have probably been, and I appreciate your willingness to take those steps even though they're clearly unpopular. I also appreciate your willingness to talk about "less legit bans" rather than clam up and circle the wagons.

I agree with Antonio to the extent that I really hope BK is allowed back relatively soon. Though I think even she would admit that she needs time off to get some things in order and I really hope people stop making a crusade over this s**t. I'm really sick of the drama that exists for basically no reason.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Banned Posters: Adam Griffin on: July 22, 2015, 02:00:44 am
This one feels like a bit of a stretch, lacking more information.
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of banned posters: Bacon King on: July 21, 2015, 09:43:29 pm
Honestly time away from the forum is what BK desperately needs, by her own admission. Revisiting the issue down the road is probably a good idea, but for now I think it's best for all of us she take some time to collect herself and get better.
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Forgot password emails on: July 21, 2015, 06:38:31 pm
I got one as well. Same IP. I changed my password earlier today, anyway, so I'm not too worried about it.

The site is presently running like dogs**t for me, though. But that may just be the usual.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: POST HERE IF YOU WANT TO BE CONSIDERED AS A MOD on: July 21, 2015, 06:21:21 pm
There may be a lot of moderators, but active mods is another matter. At least half of them log on about once a month, I swear.

Also this site's moderators aren't really site-wide moderators. They tend to stick to policing the forums they frequent, as opposed to the site as a whole like most forums I've seen. It's not really a fair comparison.
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Bacon King Statement on: July 21, 2015, 06:20:07 pm
Just get yourself better, BK. Please.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Inevitable question: Best running mate for Kasich? on: July 21, 2015, 05:48:37 pm
Kasich is the running mate. He exists to be a boring white guy running mate that can take Ohio. He has no other effective qualities.

This is beltway think that never works, though. Al Gore never won Tennessee for Clinton, as proved by his own inability to win it, Dick Cheney wasn't a swing state guy, and Joe Biden was from Delaware. Just about every running mate I can think of picked for electoral purposes lost (Paul Ryan).

I don't disagree that people overestimate the effect a running mate has on winning a state, but a popular figure from that state can definitely shore up certain voters and make it closer than it otherwise would've been. Gore may have never been the reason Clinton won Tennessee, but he absolutely did win it twice and Gore couldn't have hurt.

I think a lot of people look back on 2004 with Edwards and conclude that VPs never have an effect; it's not really completely true. Popular VPs do. Edwards was a one-termer who was never all that popular. Palin on the other hand was (despite her reputation crashing in the years to come) very popular in Alaska and early polls had shown Obama doing very competitively there until she was picked as the running mate.

Edit: (Going further with the Palin example, look back on Alaska's results in 2008 vs 2012. Obama did noticeably better in 2012 despite the national swing against him. That can only be attributed to Palin being on the ticket.)

Kasich is, much as I don't like it, relatively popular here and won a landslide in his re-election. In a close campaign (and as traditionally close as Ohio is on its own) Kasich would definitely move the needle. If I was running the Clinton campaign I'd be worried about Kasich.
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Are there any terms that when you read them you stop reading the article? on: July 21, 2015, 12:53:10 pm
Nothing really ever makes me say "Oh screw this I'm done" just because I see a term I dislike, but rambling about cultural appropriation comes really close.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Inevitable question: Best running mate for Kasich? on: July 21, 2015, 12:43:53 pm
Kasich is the running mate. He exists to be a boring white guy running mate that can take Ohio. He has no other effective qualities.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: So You Think You Can Moderate - Season 2: No Vote For the Fascist Coat on: July 20, 2015, 09:12:49 pm
Sorry, Marokai.

fight me irl
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: So You Think You Can Moderate - Season 2: No Vote For the Fascist Coat on: July 20, 2015, 07:28:51 pm
I'm going to end up dying from falling out of a tree just like Trump, aren't I.
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