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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - The Whinge Binge on: May 21, 2015, 11:05:33 pm
I'm so sorry Afleitch. Truly terrible.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AZ shuts down welfare benefits after 12 months...... on: May 19, 2015, 06:30:49 pm
The idea of lifetime limits on social assistance is totally insane and evil.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: President Obama proves he is a Man of the People on: May 18, 2015, 12:40:22 pm
How hip.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary backs Tubman on $20 on: May 15, 2015, 02:54:21 pm
I don't see any big issue with this though I would prefer Eleanor Roosevelt. But whatever. Hard thing to be opposed to.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - 2015 on: May 14, 2015, 03:56:50 pm
Well I'm pleasantly surprised.

I hate the Liberals as much as the next guy, but Liberals finishing in third probably means another Conservative majority government.

Not necessarily. If the Liberals end up in the teens again and the Conservatives somehow capture just shy of 40% of the vote, then sure. But I don't think either of those things are likely to happen again. Trudeau isn't a great leader, but he's still more popular at the end of the day than the Liberal leaders have been for a decade and there's been more than enough built-up backlash over the course of the many Conservative governments that I doubt Stephen Harper can pull that number again. The Conservatives haven't been near 40% since the end of 2011 and have just been hovering around the low thirties for a really long time.

Of course Canada is wildly unpredictable and the election is months away, so all of this is nearly meaningless, but still. The Cons got a majority because of two factors, not just the Liberal collapse to sub-19%; they also got 40% of the vote. At least one of those things isn't likely to happen again, probably both. And scaremongering about the inexperienced, unexpected NDP isn't likely to work as well the second time around after a full term of opposition and the ability for the NDP to claim they represent everyone from Alberta to Quebec.

I have my doubt about the ability for the NDP to form a government on their own, of course, and I'm an endless pessimist, but I feel pretty safe in feeling like another Conservative majority is pretty unlikely. But again. Canada.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Senate Dems relent on TPP/TPA on: May 13, 2015, 08:32:18 pm
As if there was ever any doubt.
7  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is Obama a socialist? on: May 13, 2015, 07:13:06 pm
Not even close.
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Apples or bananas? on: May 13, 2015, 02:38:16 pm
9  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Iceland election 2017 on: May 12, 2015, 04:11:12 pm
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Rachel Maddow on: May 11, 2015, 05:13:56 pm
The best MSNBC has to offer. Aside from her and Chris Hayes I actually sort of dislike their lineup, these days. I enjoy her style of breaking down news stories more than anybody on cable news.
11  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Liberal Democrats on: May 10, 2015, 05:45:47 pm
Completely worthless.
12  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of "first past the post" on: May 09, 2015, 05:14:16 pm
Hilariously terrible.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of bgwah on: May 09, 2015, 11:53:41 am
Despite the drama of past years in Atlasia I never actually hated him or anything. He's a little odd but I've liked him for most of my time here.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Pickup Artists on: May 09, 2015, 11:52:43 am
Lief's rare break of character there makes a good point to keep in mind that the concept of the thing is not inherently awful and there's probably something positive to be gleaned from from the wreckage of it (especially, as mentioned, for the people who need that extra guiding hand in social skills or whatever), but obviously how it basically formed a little niche industry and subculture, and the people you will tend to come across that are running that sort of thing, tend way more often than not to be creepy, or as Lief mentioned, outright psychotic.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Boston University professor: White Males a "problem population" on: May 09, 2015, 11:36:24 am
Cory, I like you and all, you're a better person than people think you are, but please don't post while drunk. You know it never works out.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Boston University professor: White Males a "problem population" on: May 08, 2015, 09:24:36 pm
I love how Beet has gotten all in my face about feminist issues before but then he requotes that.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Boston University professor: White Males a "problem population" on: May 08, 2015, 05:58:49 pm
want me to find you some examples of people arguing exactly that?

No, because I'm aware there are plenty of fools arguing exactly that. But simply expressing concern or disagreement over what was in the original post does not mean you are immediately doing that.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Boston University professor: White Males a "problem population" on: May 08, 2015, 05:02:32 pm
More evidence that white men are the real victims of oppression and discrimination. Sad

19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather live in Alberta or Scotland? on: May 08, 2015, 03:54:04 pm
Alberta without a doubt.
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Texas: two gunmen shot dead after opening fire at Mohammed cartoon contest on: May 08, 2015, 03:41:45 pm
There are people in this thread literally blaming the (almost) victims of the attack. Nothing justifies trying to shoot people, and to insist that people should just stop doing something because a radical fringe group of people might attack is against the idea of free speech itself.

The irony is that the same people most likely to victim blame when it comes to victims of religious radicals (most often Muslims) are the same people who become enraged when people are questioning of the victim in... other crimes, let's say.

So is the suggestion that we should legislatively ban the practice of a religion we don't like.

Who in this thread supports this position?
21  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Next UK Labour Party Leader on: May 08, 2015, 03:17:06 pm
Cooper seems the best of the options.
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Nick Clegg on: May 08, 2015, 03:15:09 pm
A complete joke. Nothing about the LibDems has been appealing for several years now and he is squarely to blame.

I feel like Franzl did when he apologized for ever supporting Mark Kirk, as something that haunts him as an incredibly stupid choice in retrospect. I feel embarassed I ever liked the LibDems. If the polls are any indication, it seems many others agree.
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Lief Reservoir of Simple Truths and Smart One-Liners on: May 08, 2015, 02:08:50 pm
On the subject of the Lib Dems: what exactly is (or was Tongue) their social base of support?

(apologies if this question has been answered before).

Before the late unpleasantness, the same social base as the bulk of the posters who post on this forum.
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election - May 7th 2015 (The Official Election Day & Results Thread) on: May 08, 2015, 12:45:39 pm
The collapse of the liberals is more proof that Moderate Heroism is not a viable basis for a party. Seeing as a lot of Clegg's arguments were literally lifted from the Australian Democrats playbook, it is not surprising the party ended up confused and without a clear niche. The other strategy - coasting off local popularity simply could not work with a demoralised and broken activist base; and diminished funds.

Oh it works out it some extent, provided you never take power and have to actually implement policy of any sort. The LibDems managed to build on previous successes reasonably well when they never had any responsibility.
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election - May 7th 2015 (The Official Election Day & Results Thread) on: May 08, 2015, 12:40:04 pm
Most the voters that gave the Lib Dems 63 and 57 seats respectively in 2005 and 2010 were Labour supporters protesting Blair and the Iraq War and fashioned the Libs as a viable center-left alternative.  They were certainly not happy to have in effect voted to put up a Conservative government. 

I think the results prove, if nothing else, that people were disgusted with the LibDems with very few exceptions, no matter where their votes were coming from.

What did the LibDems accomplish, except take the edge off some of the Tories worst instincts? The LibDems have been a mopey little caucus that have just propped up the Conservatives as if they were Conservatives themselves. To my knowledge they didn't achieve almost anything they campaigned on; the singular social policy achievement of the government, gay marriage, was spearheaded by Cameron himself. There hasn't really been much of some sort of economic revival that makes the UK stand out from the rest of the world's recovery, and regardless of the nice gesture of the coalition itself, the UK is more divided than it was when the Coalition began, despite the "honorable and steadfast" leadership.

If you support the LibDems you may as well support another party, since they either accomplish nothing or their power gets absorbed into another party in practice. And this is coming from someone who was beating the Nick Clegg drum in 2010 louder than most people, for the reasons Barnes points out.
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