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1  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Jennifer Lawrence and many other celebrities... on: Today at 01:01:00 am
The article isn't questioning why there's a frenzy, rather it concludes that, "Like the rest of us privacy-respecting citizens, [Lawrence's] biggest problem is that she is forced to share the planet with the likes of this excuse for a human being, who used all that talent and creativity for bad, in a world that so desperately needs it for good."

My main issue with the article is that it could've made that exact same point without doing a surface-level google search for other goings-on in the news right now including women, throwing it into the same basket and saying "because sexists." I think the obsession with getting the naked pics is creepy, but if there was a Taylor Lautner sex tape I'm not going to lie to you and say I wouldn't be tempted. Being motivated by sex is not inherently misogynist or misandrist.

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And of course men are objectified too, but not to the same extent women are. Women are also disproportionately targeted when you narrow the scope from general objectification to violation of privacy through sharing of unwanted photos of a sexual nature.

The more specific you narrow something, the more results can be affected by mere coincidence.

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There's been a few, but not as many as for female celebrities and they tend to get less attention.

But do they get less attention purely because they're women? And are there less purely because they're women, or because male celebrities don't tape themselves having sex as much?

I know you like to point out the Paris Hilton sex tape, but let's not forget that it was from 2003; Paris Hilton was smack-dab in the middle of her 15 Minutes. She was a reality TV star and all over the news. She didn't suddenly come into the fore because of her sex tape. She was already a big news item of the day, and when the sex tape broke it got a lot of attention because it was A) 2003, these things were more novel over a decade ago, and B) She was already famous.

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Wait, I post one article that points out that maybe there is sexism involved in a leak with overwhelmingly female celebrities and you interpret that as saying that "everything that happens to a woman is part of society's grand misogynist bent"? The irony here is that when realisticidealist pointed out that Justin Verlander had his nude photos leaked too, Eraserhead immediately came in to swat him down and assert that his girlfriend's pics were more important.

Eraserhead is a straight guy. Of course he would think they're more important.

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The fact of the matter is, one doesn't have to look at the photos. I haven't looked at them, nor has not looking at them taken a great deal of willpower. Who cares? I've seen plenty of images of womens' bodies, freely offered. I'm sure the bodies of celebrities look pretty much the same. Participating in this kind of violation is privacy is wrong, and not worth it.

I don't disagree with you personally, but I also completely understand why some people are interested. Jennifer Lawrence is a huge star right now, particularly well known with internet users because of her proliferation in gif-form, and is very attractive. So naturally, there's going to be curiosity. I don't have to like it but I am at least capable of understanding it.
2  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Jennifer Lawrence and many other celebrities... on: Today at 12:21:56 am
Where are all the hacked pictures of naked male celebrities? Justin Bieber's phone is pretty safe since 16 year old girls probably aren't great hackers. If naked pics of him got out there you probably wouldn't be able to miss the cries of teenage girls everywhere.

What a lazy article that cheaply tries to capitalize on current events to tie disparate things together to concern troll. Middle school book reports probably require more paragraphs.

Funny that you talk about "lazy" when your reply to the article only responds to the headline, which is never actually talked about in the article itself.

The headline is the only interesting thing to respond to since the vast majority of the article is nothing. "Jennifer Lawrence's phone got hacked, other people are harassed and bullied out of the workforce because of stuff like this, imagine how she must feel." A perfectly fine piece could've been written about the shame of being humiliated from having these things stolen from your personal life without making it about sexism and trying to tie it to completely unrelated events that actually are evidence of sexism.

Of course it's sexist, because there is a greater societal fascination with naked womens' bodies than mens', as a part of womens' greater objectification. You're old enough to remember Paris Hilton; since when has there been that much interest in the sex tape of a male celebrity? Speculating about what might happen in an alternate universe (where a 16 y.o. girl hacks Justin Bieber's photos) isn't a rebuttal to an overwhelming and undeniable social phenomenon.

Everyone is objectified and sexualized in different ways. I've stood in lines for enough Twilight movies to know that some young girls will practically grope themselves in public over Team Edward and Team Jacob. I've been in enough check-out lines to see that the "who's f**king who" of tabloid journalism is pretty equal-opportunity. Were you crying foul when Levi Johnston was getting porn offers? Jennifer Lawrence is a famous woman of the moment in unfortunate circumstances. The frenzy would be there either way.

And besides, when have there even been many male celebrity sex tapes? It's hard to have interest in what doesn't seem to exist. I remember Ray J but he's pretty small-time. Colin Farrell had one leak as well, but I genuinely forgot his name until I remember he starred in that Alexander The Great movie or whatever. But I think both of those tapes also had women in them, so do they count?

These were bored hackers. Not everything that happens to a woman is part of society's grand misogynist bent.

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Lol, really? Do you know what I'm doing right now between responding to you? (no, it has nothing to do with the pics in question)

I didn't really opt into this conversation to know when you're masturbating, Beet, but thanks I guess?
3  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Jennifer Lawrence and many other celebrities... on: September 01, 2014, 11:57:08 pm
Where are all the hacked pictures of naked male celebrities? Justin Bieber's phone is pretty safe since 16 year old girls probably aren't great hackers. If naked pics of him got out there you probably wouldn't be able to miss the cries of teenage girls everywhere.

What a lazy article that cheaply tries to capitalize on current events to tie disparate things together to concern troll. Middle school book reports probably require more paragraphs.

Funny that you talk about "lazy" when your reply to the article only responds to the headline, which is never actually talked about in the article itself.

The headline is the only interesting thing to respond to since the vast majority of the article is nothing. "Jennifer Lawrence's phone got hacked, other people are harassed and bullied out of the workforce because of stuff like this, imagine how she must feel." A perfectly fine piece could've been written about the shame of being humiliated from having these things stolen from your personal life without making it about sexism and trying to tie it to completely unrelated events that actually are evidence of sexism.

Most people who are way into tech to the extent that they would go around hacking s**t are men. Most men like women. Bored tech-savvy men decided to hack attractive popular woman's phone. Is that gross? Yes. Illegal? Yes. Evidence of sexism? Not unless you think sexual impulses should be stamped out, which, in your case, you seem to. Sometimes a thing is just a thing.
4  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Jennifer Lawrence and many other celebrities... on: September 01, 2014, 11:46:50 pm
Where are all the hacked pictures of naked male celebrities? Justin Bieber's phone is pretty safe since 16 year old girls probably aren't great hackers. If naked pics of him got out there you probably wouldn't be able to miss the cries of teenage girls everywhere.

What a lazy article that cheaply tries to capitalize on current events to tie disparate things together to concern troll. Middle school book reports probably require more paragraphs.
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone II - Less Boring, More Whoring on: August 30, 2014, 04:09:44 am
About to go to the first "real" party in my life at Waltham.

I mistook you for Nathan for a moment and this threw me for a loop.
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Midwest Voting Booth: The Bicameral Birthing Amendment on: August 25, 2014, 12:31:53 am
Abstain
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: August 2014 Federal Election - At-Large Senate on: August 22, 2014, 05:07:30 am
1. Alfred F. Jones
2. Dr. Cynic
3. Polnut
4. GAworth
5. Mechaman
8  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Top 10 Jokes (Edinburgh Fringe 2014) on: August 21, 2014, 11:06:48 am
Uh... maybe it's the way they say them?

After all, even the funniest comedy routines turn into total snoozefests when transcribed.

I randomly ended up skimming Lewis Black's Wikiquote page about a day ago, and when you see his jokes in text his jokes seem super boring and lame. The performance makes all the difference.

Though some of these don't seem super great either way.
9  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What cultures do you "-phile" for? on: August 19, 2014, 10:43:27 am

Pretty much any country has a "culture" insofar as they have a set of traditions, sport, art, civic society, language, history, media, etc, specific to them, just to varying levels of distinction, or in this case the sheer number of intermingling cultures that create something just a bit different. I just happen to really love Canada; I have for years and years.

Marokai really loves hockey.

And maple syrup.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Former Sen. James Jeffords (I-VT) dead at 80 on: August 18, 2014, 11:55:31 am
RIP.
11  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What cultures do you "-phile" for? on: August 16, 2014, 08:57:43 pm
I've always really been interested in French, Japanese, and Canadian culture.
12  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: RISK Domination XI: Round 6 (Matt from VT) on: August 16, 2014, 08:28:34 pm
So falls the last redoubt of Hagrid's Plains empire.

I wonder if he'll survive until his next turn, at this rate.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What are you listening to right now? II on: August 15, 2014, 02:03:52 am
Really terrible Glee mashups, for some reason.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Happy Birthday TDAS04! on: August 14, 2014, 11:22:41 pm
Happy birthday to a great poster! I hope you have a wonderful day!
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: lunchables on: August 14, 2014, 08:50:22 pm
I liked them when I was a kid, but they're obviously not great. The most offensive thing about them is how wildly overpriced they are for the amount of food ("food") you're getting.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone II - Less Boring, More Whoring on: August 14, 2014, 01:22:50 am
Also, I'm bi.

About time. Sheesh.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: St Louis police murder scandal (PLUS: riots, idiotic press conferences, etc.) on: August 13, 2014, 09:27:55 pm
Tragic.

"Tragic" is an understatement.
18  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: RISK Domination XI: Round 5 (Snowstalker) on: August 13, 2014, 08:54:20 pm
RIP in pepperoni, Hagrid.
19  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: The "right" amount of social equality on: August 13, 2014, 06:57:51 pm
The only inequalities that should exist in society are those naturally resulting out of individuals' specific talents.
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Sexual Morality Poll on: August 13, 2014, 06:38:55 pm
21  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: RIP Robin Williams on: August 12, 2014, 11:12:41 pm
"I'm sorry to report that comedian Robin Williams has committed suicide, an event of great import and grief to his family. But his sacrifice has been a great boon to the the news cycle and the electoral machinery ó thank God that we have a tragedy involving a wealthy white man to drag us away from the depressing news about brown people."

...

"Boy, I hate to say it, but it sure was nice of Robin Williams to create such a spectacular distraction."




I don't like some people.
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Orly Taitz on: August 07, 2014, 12:36:42 am
I'm so unhappy you reminded me of her.
23  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Kids React to Gameboy on: August 06, 2014, 05:10:25 pm
Yeah, to be fair, the original Gameboy did actually kind of suck.
24  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Is cultural appropriate really a thing? on: August 06, 2014, 12:31:18 am
This thread reminded me of an insane rant published on Time's website that basically accused gay males of "stealing black female culture." Included was some of the intellectually laziest, "this is mine, not yours, you can't have any of it" bitter complaining that seemed to have nearly nothing to do with the original point, but was instead just a retreading about how blacks are disadvantaged in society (obviously, true) and I am somehow perpetuating this everytime I've jokingly snapped my fingers at someone.

I am history's greatest monster.
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pelosi chases Tom Marino (R-PA) across House floor on: August 04, 2014, 02:27:13 pm
The only reason Pelosi rose to power and remains in power is because she is female and a great fundraiser, she not only is a simple minded hack but she can be blamed for the continuing collapse of the House

As is often the case, the hatred of Pelosi seems to boil down to sexism. Pelosi is not only a great campaigner, but as a legislator, she's one of the best the House has seen in decades. She worked non-f**king-stop to get politically difficult, important legislation passed through the House while Speaker that repeatedly went off to die in the useless Senate. She's 100000x the legislative organizer that Boehner is.

Hate her political opinions all you want, but there's a reason she's still the Democratic leader. She can get s**t done.
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