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13801  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: GPORTER FOR SENATE HEADQUARTERS on: June 03, 2009, 10:08:16 pm
Ah I see the new strategy. Spew your BS over every campaign thread in existence so you can't get rid of it via mod action.
13802  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Duke for Senate: Charleston's Finest on: June 03, 2009, 09:02:51 pm
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I will state firmly right now that when a debate comes up between Nyman and the Regions, Duke will side firmly with the regions.

I'm not saying you should be endorsing myself, but I would like to clarify that I will also side with the regions.

I would also like to say that I've resisted any efforts to eliminate regions in the Constitutional Convention..
13803  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: will Barack Obama be re-elected? on: June 03, 2009, 08:55:31 pm
This map gives Obama 278 EVs right now. I'm pretty sure after '10 he'd need to lose at least one of the states on this map to be unseated:





I have a feeling he could hold Virginia.
13804  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: ATLAS: Atlasians Thinking, Leading, Acting, Solving on: June 03, 2009, 08:05:14 pm
Just for the sake of discussion this is what I said awhile ago in the ConCon about this:

2. "Department of Statistics" (Or something other):

This is something that struck me in an earlier situation when I had to sue the government of the Southeast because they were issuing their own currency unconstitutionally. Basically, have a Department of Statistics or Department of Economic Affairs, or something. This is the conversation that led me to the idea.

From what I understand, the 'currency' would have the same effects as distributing say gift vouchers or even as 'wacky' novelty theme park money- they are issued by an individual or a compny and only reedemable through agreement with the same company or another company. They are valueless except to those who agree to their value.

In that case any citizen could make a group and claim to have X amount of gold reserves and therefore issue their own currency. It would be anarchy.

So? As long as they actually have gold reserves, I fail to see the problem.

It's a virtual game. There are no actual gold reserves... So you just say you have them and issue currency. It's like when kids play pretend army and one kid gets shot, he claims invincibility, so when he shoots someone they say they can't die, and it goes down-hill from there.

It's true though. I wish we had some sort of rules laid out for that type of thing so this sort of stuff didn't happen, or some sort of "Department of Statistics" to lay out reasonable and realistic economic reports on a semi-regular basis and kept citizens within reasonable fantasy rules. But alas..

Basically, there would be a position in the Cabinet (or maybe a legislative committee to release the reports?) that would lay out monthly or perhaps bi-monthly economic reports (GDP growth, unemployment, poverty rates, tax revenue, etc. It doesn't have to be too extensive) and would lay out and maintain rules about what individuals can do on their own. (Such as business rules or rules on personal wealth.) Basically we have a situation where anyone can make up anything they want, and go from there. I have no problem with people starting their own businesses per se, but it's when people start making up random s**t that things could go wrong.

Claiming to have large amounts of gold, for instance, or to own a huge armed force, is ridiculous, and it can get to the point to where it can seriously warp the game or just seem stupid. Also, this could provide unique instances where certain economic downturns, upturns, or other unrelated "disasters" could occur, which would require legislative reaction, and could keep the legislature in check when necessary. (We all know how they lag behind from time to time.)
13805  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: ATLAS: Atlasians Thinking, Leading, Acting, Solving on: June 03, 2009, 08:00:54 pm
I still think we should elect the position of GM, honestly.
13806  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: June 03, 2009, 07:59:25 pm
I've been mulling this over for a while now.  I think this would be a better fit:

Fritz
JCP
Minnesota

A hearty welcome!! Smiley
13807  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: June 03, 2009, 04:45:41 pm
Thanks folks! I hope you all don't mind an occasional stupid question from the newbie such as, er...how does all this fantasy government stuff work? :-) Haven't sorted much out from the Wiki tab other than what region I'm in and the party I'd like to join.

Ah, the bliss of ignorance.....how soon I'll miss thee.

Asking questions is the best way to get answers, no? Wink

What confuses you specifically? Elections?

I just found your Atlasia V 2.0 thread which helped a bit, thanks.

Yes, elections (next election "date", list of offices open to vote for in Mideast), plus governing--is my registering automatically make me part of the Mideast legislative assembly, or is that something I need to run for like (apparantly) senator?

Many more dumb questions to follow... :-)

Well, honestly, I wish we had a schedule for elections, because truthfully I don't know when the elections are myself aside from the Special election in a day or so to replace an at-large Senate seat.

However, the Mideast Assembly does require you to run for it, unlike the Pacific Legislature, where every citizen is a member. Regions determine their own form of government and legislature Smiley
13808  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: June 03, 2009, 04:29:23 pm
Thanks folks! I hope you all don't mind an occasional stupid question from the newbie such as, er...how does all this fantasy government stuff work? :-) Haven't sorted much out from the Wiki tab other than what region I'm in and the party I'd like to join.

Ah, the bliss of ignorance.....how soon I'll miss thee.

Asking questions is the best way to get answers, no? Wink

What confuses you specifically? Elections?
13809  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: June 03, 2009, 03:59:48 pm
Badger
JCP
Ohio

Welcome Smiley
13810  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Conservative Alternative and Sane Choice - Keystone Phil for Senate on: June 03, 2009, 02:49:33 pm
That's pretty harsh. Attorney General is a difficult post. And, Marokai has remained very active recently. Too bad you can't say the same thing.

The crush you have on Marokai is really cute. It explains so much, too (your attacks on me elsewhere including your bumping of a thread that was months old to call me a "Very Horrible Person" even though I haven't done anything to you).

It is understandable. I am quite a good looking and charming fellow. I'm surprised you yourself haven't fallen for me. Smiley
13811  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Democratic Alliance Convention: May-June 2009 on: June 03, 2009, 02:46:36 pm
Umm...people, don't we have a party rule that DA candidates ALWAYS get the endorsement?

That's quite pragmatic Tongue
13812  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Marokai Blue for Senator: We Need a Balance on: June 03, 2009, 02:44:10 pm
AG Marokai, you've said you want to bring debate back to the senate, yet the only debate you have engaged in in this campaign is flaming your opponents, can you give examples of where you, in recent times, have actually added substantive debate to the discussion?

I think my history in the constitutional convention and some of my comments in the Senate (which I don't like to do, I hate interfering where it's not my business to) shows that I can and have had a debate on important issues.

I'm happy to debate any issue you or my opponents would like right now, Smiley
13813  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Marokai Blue for Senator: We Need a Balance on: June 03, 2009, 03:59:50 am
When/where can I vote for Marokai Blue?

Hello everyone. A special election will be held beginning this Thursday at midnight to replace Senator DTWL.

That is all.

Smiley
13814  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Marokai Blue for Senator: We Need a Balance on: June 03, 2009, 03:52:57 am
You just reminded me how a member from another forum used to call me Macaroni Sad
Sorry.

Just teasing Smiley Thank you for your support!
13815  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Marokai Blue for Senator: We Need a Balance on: June 03, 2009, 03:16:51 am
You just reminded me how a member from another forum used to call me Macaroni Sad
13816  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Marokai Blue for Senator: We Need a Balance on: June 03, 2009, 03:12:32 am
Done Tongue
13817  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Conservative Alternative and Sane Choice - Keystone Phil for Senate on: June 03, 2009, 01:11:53 am
     Me deciding my vote has become yet more complicated. Tongue

     That aside, I decided to run for President because while partisan bickering is lots of fun, we are facing a genuine crisis in Atlasia, & have been facing one for a long time. This crisis relates to the fact that Atlasian voters tend to be very inactive outside of election time. While I am proud to say that we are making progress in this regard, Atlasian activity is a mere shadow of what it once was. If elected President, I will dedicate myself to finding solutions to this problem.

Yeah, it must be complicated.
13818  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Conservative Alternative and Sane Choice - Keystone Phil for Senate on: June 03, 2009, 12:50:15 am
Splendid, now we have another inactive member running Smiley

Obviously not really inactive if I am running for a Senate seat. I'm sorry that a re-energized Atlasia threatens my opponents.

Yadda yadda. What's your recent record? Where are your accomplishments? (In the last year, even.)

I don't have one and don't have any. What's your record? Oh! You were the Attorney General! Wow! A completely meaningless position. Good for you, Marokai.

I almost feel bad about running. We should just hand off these positions to pathetic people like yourself who have nothing else to live for.

I've been one of the more active members of the constitutional convention, written an Introduction thread (which no one even thought of doing until I proposed legislation to get the Senator's attention to Realisticidealist in private), put together an effort to bring in all of Atlasia to repair the wiki (it's a couple pages back now, though), and of course kept up with all my duties as Attorney General.

I believe you were, what, a vote whore? You spend so little time around these parts it's hard to remember. Smiley
13819  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Conservative Alternative and Sane Choice - Keystone Phil for Senate on: June 03, 2009, 12:44:59 am
Splendid, now we have another inactive member running Smiley

Obviously not really inactive if I am running for a Senate seat. I'm sorry that a re-energized Atlasia threatens my opponents.

Yadda yadda. What's your recent record? Where are your accomplishments? (In the last year, even.)
13820  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Conservative Alternative and Sane Choice - Keystone Phil for Senate on: June 03, 2009, 12:41:21 am
Splendid, now we have another inactive member running Smiley
13821  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why Are So Many Down on Strickland? on: June 02, 2009, 11:50:17 pm
I was wondering the exact same thing. Strickland hasn't really done anything remarkable or ground breaking but he's not been a terrible Governor, and he's certainly an improvement over the Ohio GOP.
13822  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Marokai Blue for Senator: We Need a Balance on: June 02, 2009, 11:40:32 pm
To be fair, the version they passed actually is fine with me. To bad it was vetoed.

You're not alone in thinking that, Wink
13823  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Marokai Blue for Senator: We Need a Balance on: June 02, 2009, 11:37:31 pm
Before I make any decisions, I would like to ask a quick question...

"1. The Federal Communications Commission, nor any other federal agency, shall have the power to regulate the content of television or radio broadcasts."

Was this bill intended to say "shall not have the power"? The lack of not would change the entire meaning of the bill, no?

Sorry if I'm just misunderstanding something here...

     Damn, I messed it up. Yes, it was intended to be "shall not have the power".



A bill, so lacking of debate and Senators so eager to jump and pass it, sat in the Senate for roughly four days and was voted on by all of the Senators before someone noticed an obvious typo that had the opposite intended effect.

If elected, I pledge to be a Senator that can read. Smiley
13824  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Atlasians for Intelligent and Active Legislators on: June 02, 2009, 08:08:04 pm
How exactly will we endorse someone? Because myself and Indiana-boy will support ourselves Tongue
13825  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Marokai Blue for Senator: We Need a Balance on: June 02, 2009, 08:07:08 pm
you know how everyone is talking about unity? well i have been thinking, maybe that is the wrong move.

Well, PiT believes in unity when it suits him Smiley
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