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13801  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Who is the worst president of United States ? on: May 16, 2009, 02:21:07 pm
Buchanan, but GWB gives him a run for his money.
13802  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Who is the best president of United States ? on: May 16, 2009, 02:18:14 pm
FDR.

TR, and Lincoln are close.
13803  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Issue, Part 54 on: May 16, 2009, 12:37:10 am
I picked "Lean Yes," by which I mean, "Yes, but do it right."

word
13804  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is this guy a good father or a bad father on: May 16, 2009, 12:36:10 am
FF father and judge.
13805  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to name Jon Huntsman as Ambassador to China on: May 15, 2009, 09:24:46 pm
Why in the world would someone do that?
13806  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gay Marriage/Civil Unions in 10 years on: May 15, 2009, 07:10:26 pm
Haha. In states like New Hampshire and Maine, legislators enact marriage equality, and in South Carolina, they do stupid things like that. It shows a regional divide.

Look at this, a 9 year old Denver child organized a rally tomorrow Smiley Cute.

That's so encouraging Smiley

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Ethan wanted to do something after learning one of the children in his neighborhood had two moms who are unable to be married in Colorado. He called local officials, worked on the permits to hold a rally, created a lineup of speakers and hung fliers around town. Ethan's rally is Saturday at noon on the West steps of the Capitol, and he says the message is simple.

"People should be treated the same and they should have equal marriage rights and equal protection."

Awesome and really sweet to hear from a 9 year old!
13807  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Constitutional Convention / Re: Parliamentary Bicameralism (Discussion Open) on: May 15, 2009, 06:52:55 pm
Elections would typically be the method, I would imagine. Especially since they're likely to happen more often under a parliamentary model.
13808  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: More Americans Pro-Life Than Pro-Choice, Gallup Shows on: May 15, 2009, 05:19:50 pm
Take abortion rights away and see how long those numbers last.
13809  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: The People's Party Remains, 1888- on: May 15, 2009, 04:09:39 pm
1909 is in the works, but before I did any of that I wanted to edit part of the introduction, more specifically, 1892. So this is the area that I edited up to the election in 1891-1892

Quote from: Edited 1891-1892 Section
[Introduction] Events of 1891-1892: Populism Spreads

When the new congress convenes in Washington DC, President Harrison and his Administration are increasingly concerned. Republican gains were completely erased, and Republicans were swept in the West and Midwest. Couple this with whispering of Democratic and Republican defections for what was "The Voice of the People," a series of articles appearing all over the country’s newspapers praising greater than expected Populist gains, and the situation for any Republican looks very grim indeed.

The Populists, however, are elated with the mark they've made on the House of Representatives and the Senate and immediately push for legislation enacting the direct election of Senators, and a Farmer's Assistance Administration, which would give financial assistance to struggling farmers throughout the South and Midwest, who the Populists argue were the hardest hit by the McKinley Tariff of 1889 and previous tariff increases, which they also propose slashing considerably.

The Majority Party (Democrats) are torn on taking up the legislation. The pro-business wing of the party refuses to consider such legislation, citing the Democratic attacks on the "Billion Dollar Congress" as reasons to refuse additional spending, while the Pro-Populist factions of the party, centered in pockets of the South such as Florida, North Carolina, and Alabama, are sympathetic to legislation to assist farmers. When the Republican Party refuses to support such proposals, the Democratic Party breaks towards the same positions, and it looks like the Populist Party will have a long and unproductive two years in Washington.

Reports come to light in mid-1891, published in The Progressive Farmer and The New York Times that the Sherman Anti-Trust Act, passed in the previous year, is rife with loopholes, allowing corporations to control industries such as the sugar, tobacco, and railroad industries. This forced workers in certain areas of the country to work for large businesses for little pay and long hours. Head of the United States Civil Service Commission, Theodore Roosevelt, largely echoes Populist disappointment calling the report a "national tragedy."

Jacob Coxey (P-OH) is overheard in his district by reporters complaining about the Sherman Anti-Trust Act, calling it "a complete and utter sham" and remarking "It defines a corporation as a person! What manure! Combinations are tools of the state and of society."

The Chinese Exclusion Act is brought forward for renewal & revision in February 1892. It is renewed for ten years, once again suspending Chinese Immigration to the country. This Act is strongly supported by Labor Unions and Populists, who argue that Immigration lowers wages and hurts American jobs. Despite Republican opposition, most of who label it "the legalization of racial discrimination" the extension passes 232-100.

The Johnson County War

Throughout the last several years, farms in Wyoming and other areas of the western United States had been dealing with severe blizzards, droughts, and other unfortunate weather, making it difficult for small farmers to properly maintain their farms. As a result of the harsh weather conditions, many crop-fields were decimated and livestock lost. After receiving no help from the government, a group of small farm owners throughout parts of Wyoming banded together as the Northern Wyoming Farmers & Stock Growers Association (NWFSGA) led by farmer Nate Champion, on January 12th, 1892 to do business with one another in competition to the larger and more powerful Wyoming Stock Growers Association (WSGA) that was backed by several large business interests, corrupt politicians, and law enforcement officials.

The WSGA demanded the NWFSGA immediately disband, claiming dominion over the area and its livestock, and that only they had been granted permission to do business in the area by the local government. They ignored their demands, and accused them of lynching several small farmers in the area that interfered with the WSGA’s business, and claimed they were preparing their own “roundup” in which cows and calves would be divided up between the farmers and branded, directly threatening WSGA business.


The Northern Wyoming Farmers & Stock Growers Association, meeting again in the Spring of 1892.

By the Spring of 1892 however, the situation had grown dire. The NWFSGA had rounded up more cattle than the WSGA had anticipated, prompting them to allege the local farmers were engaging in an effort to ally themselves with “rustlers” (cattle thieves) to hurt the business of the WSGA. Throughout March, several farmers associated with the NWFSGA were found dead, but local law enforcement dismissed and downplayed their accusations that the WSGA was behind the murders. It would later come to light that several of the local sheriffs had been bribed by the WSGA to keep quiet and that they could “handle the situation.”

On April 2nd, led by former Johnson County sheriff Frank Canton, a party of skilled WSGA affiliated gunmen attacked the ranch of Nate Champion, burning it down, and later murdering him, leaving a note on his body the NWFSGA would find the next day, “Beware, cattle thieves.” By April 9th, a group of farmers, hunters, and individuals from the local chapter of the Farmer’s Alliance, banded together to arm themselves in their defense, and launch a counter-attack on the WSGA as revenge at the behest of Nate Champion’s final journal entry as his ranch was being burnt to the ground.

The “Farmer’s Militia” (as the media would later call them) attacked the WSGA at the TA Ranch, one of the largest ranches in Johnson County, Wyoming. After an intense shootout, the Acting-Governor of Wyoming was informed of the situation via telegraph and immediately sent a plea to President Harrison requesting swift assistance, and asserting that local authorities are unable to prevent the violence. On April 11th, the 6th Cavalry Regiment intervened and put a stop to the shootout that had been continuing sporadically up until that point.

By April 12th, the “Johnson County War” had become a national news story, and investigations done by The Progressive Farmer would reveal that the WSGA was being supported by wealthy Republican businessmen throughout the western U.S. and the members of the WSGA themselves, Democrats.

The 52nd Congress, however, is remarkably unproductive and accomplishes very little over the year.

Populist Party Convention, 1892


Populist delegates meet in Omaha, Nebraska, later nominating James B. Weaver for President.

The Populists meet in Omaha, Nebraska in mid-1892 to discuss the future of the Populist Party for the first time. Taking advantage of the disastrous “Johnson County War” and those in the WSGA were from both major parties, Populists attempt to spread the news that their candidates would protect small farmers from large farm owning business men, and institute policies that would “aid and lift up” family farms to compete.

The Populists eventually nominate former Republican Congressman and Greenback Party nominee in 1880 James Weaver from Iowa, for President. Former Congressman Weaver selects Former Confederate General and Virginian James G. Field as his running mate and he is quickly confirmed by the Populist delegations.

--(The rest is unchanged)--
13810  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Will Nancy Pelosi be Speaker by the end of the year? on: May 15, 2009, 04:02:03 pm
I don't see any reason to believe she won't be.  It's very rare that a Speaker of the House is actually voted out, and I think enough Democrats like Pelosi for her to keep her seat.

Welcome to the forum. Smiley
13811  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Will Nancy Pelosi be Speaker by the end of the year? on: May 15, 2009, 03:15:32 pm
Don't intrude on the anti-Pelosi circle jerk, px.
13812  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Will Nancy Pelosi be Speaker by the end of the year? on: May 15, 2009, 12:38:27 pm
Of course she will be.
13813  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Are you scared of Obama's health care plan? on: May 15, 2009, 12:37:57 pm
What exactly is Obama's health care plan?

I'm wondering this myself.
13814  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Summary of political beliefs on: May 15, 2009, 12:19:53 pm

Abortion: Personally pro-life, but at the same time I don't believe it is the states right or responsibility to legislate morality.

Gay Marriage: Support fully. However, I believe it will be quicker, easier, and more in line with the constitution to leave it up to the states. Look at the wave of gay marriage legalization.

Am I the only one here that notices the obvious contradiction there?

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Health Care: Reform and modernization is needed. Oppose all forms of government sponsored health care including medicare and medicaid. First of all, it is a states responsibility, and second, they simply cost too much money. Deregulate, but be careful about said deregulation.

Leaving it to the states is a terrible idea. We've done things like that with certain expenditures in the past and Canada also dumps alot of it's healthcare spending onto the provinces. It always turns out bad because states (or provinces) don't have the ability to bring in revenue like the federal government, and a lot of states are constrained by balanced budget amendments. This either forces states to go into debt or cut other useful services that ends up having negative consequences.
13815  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Pennsylvania 2010 - The Official Thread on: May 15, 2009, 11:44:36 am
More trolling. Pathetic.

k thnx
13816  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: You're Advising the Republicans.... on: May 15, 2009, 02:30:23 am
In case you hadn't noticed, Republicans already have a lead on the generic ballot.  Expect it to grow.

You "forum legends" crack me up.

Watch the generic ballot numbers.  When six months go by and I'm proven right, we'll see what you think then.

Prattle on about the 'generic ballot' numbers, I personally don't think generic ballot numbers are a proper way to judge a party's situation. It's sort of like asking "Pizza vs. Pasta" it's so vague it's meaningless. I like pepperoni pizza more than macaroni, but I like spaghetti more than fruit pizza! My point is that asking "generic" questions in this area is stupid, because no one can properly poll a "Dem vs Republican" issue until we actually know the candidates.

In any case, I'm not sure how you can cling dearly to that one thing considering that hispanics and asians, the two largest growing minority groups, are trending against you, young people are trending against you (and have been for a long time), certain key swing areas & states are trending against you (and have been for a long time), Obama's approvals have remained in roughly the same area so far, a record low number of people identify as Republicans, voters have been ditching the Republican party steadily in critical states, people strongly disapprove of congressional Republicans, and people deeply distrust Republican competence on the economy and favor the Democrats by wide margins.

(I posted a long rebuttal to SS about this, I'm Sad no one responded.)

If all that changes in 6 months, then hot damn, I'll leave Atlas, but I think you folks desperately need to come to the bitter realization that people don't like your party right now, at all, and have been slowly trending against you for a decade, and you're probably stuck out of power for a good long time. To make your argument "Anything can happen!" renders any discussion on this site pointless, so I don't even know why you're participating if that's the case.

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And what cracks me up is that people think ideology and not events are going to drive political development over the next few years.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by that. You're either making a "duh" statement so obvious I'm not getting it or you've mastered the Sam Spade non-statement statement.
13817  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Agree or Disagree: Katy Perry is hotter than Britney Spears at any time on: May 15, 2009, 02:00:17 am
My disdain for Katy Perry cannot be articulated in words, so even though I'm not a good judge of "hotness" (I think Eleanor Roosevelt was cute) Britney Spears Tongue
13818  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Pennsylvania 2010 - The Official Thread on: May 15, 2009, 01:42:25 am
You can't really blame Arlen for leaving the Republican Party. I think he did so for personal politically ambitious reasons after seeing that he would never beat Pat Toomey in the GOP primary. That notwithstanding, I do agree with him. The Republican Party has become so polarized that you have to be a conservative to be in the party. Moderates are almost all but gone in the party (save for the Sisters of Maine and the three GOP governors in New England, as well as Charlie Crist and the Governator). The Party of No has quickly become the party of exclusion.

I completely agree with you, but please remember who the author of this thread is when you post things like that in the future. Tongue
13819  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: You're Advising the Republicans.... on: May 15, 2009, 01:39:20 am
In case you hadn't noticed, Republicans already have a lead on the generic ballot.  Expect it to grow.

You "forum legends" crack me up.
13820  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Comedy Goldmine XI: The Atlas Forum Demilitarized Zone on: May 14, 2009, 11:46:56 pm

That's funny how, exactly? It's a legit question in my opinion.

I think he posted it so we'd understand why his second post was funny.

Yup.  Is that against Comedy Goldmine protocol?

I think you're asking the wrong two guys. Tongue
13821  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Comedy Goldmine XI: The Atlas Forum Demilitarized Zone on: May 14, 2009, 11:38:21 pm

That's funny how, exactly? It's a legit question in my opinion.

I think he posted it so we'd understand why his second post was funny.

Mm, perhaps. I'm quite tired, so.. Tongue
13822  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Comedy Goldmine XI: The Atlas Forum Demilitarized Zone on: May 14, 2009, 11:27:20 pm

That's funny how, exactly? It's a legit question in my opinion.
13823  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mexican data say migration to U.S. has plummeted on: May 14, 2009, 11:13:57 pm
Somewhere in the world, Lou Dobbs just came.
13824  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Mideast Assembly Thread on: May 14, 2009, 11:06:25 pm
The governor shouldn't wield legislative power. The governor could choose not to fill the position. That would mean he could be the deciding factor in many votes. Really, it muddles the separation of powers.

Executive officers have limited legislative powers in very specific instances all the time. For instance, the Vice President can cast a tie breaking vote in legislation, and even function as emergency PPT upon resignations. Two legislative functions, one pretty big.

It may be irritating to have the executive poke it's head in legislative matters but it's hardly without precedent.
13825  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: http://randpaul2010.com/ on: May 14, 2009, 08:51:27 pm
A regular Maddow viewer I see, Lunar. Tongue
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