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13801  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Vice Presidential Survivor Round 3 on: May 25, 2009, 08:45:20 pm
Quayle
13802  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senator PiT's Presidential Campaign Headquarters on: May 25, 2009, 08:11:40 pm
Bgwah, I will be replying to you through PM as I no longer wish for our little tiff to continue to disrupt this campaign thread.

Thank you, PS!  It is this kind of petty bickering that turns people off and drives them away.

Roll Eyes

Please, reply to my PM if you want to trash talk. The campaign thread is not for this.

I simply find holier than thou, how dareth thee, rhetoric repulsive. That's all.
13803  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama To Ask Congress To 'Change' DADT...At 'Some Time' on: May 25, 2009, 07:54:19 pm
I believe Jon Stewart's joke was "Yes We Can! ...But that doesn't necessarily mean we're going to." Lately everything Obama does reminds me of that. Tongue
13804  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: U.S. House of Representatives Survivor [FORMER AND CURRENT] Round 1 on: May 25, 2009, 05:58:35 pm
Lunar continues to = my hero, with his witty and ironic jabs that go right over people's heads apparently.

In any case, Bachmann. Tongue
13805  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Monthly Obama Forum Approval - May 2009 on: May 25, 2009, 04:07:28 pm
I just think he'll do whatever he has to in order to keep his poll numbers up. Rahm and Co. poll everything in the White House.

Sort of like Bill Clinton.
13806  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Monthly Obama Forum Approval - May 2009 on: May 25, 2009, 03:56:58 pm
but that doesn't mean they should be able to kick puppies without affecting our personal approvals of them.

Oh, believe me, I think the ridiculous hype of this guy is even more reason to disapprove. Of course your disappointment ought to lead to disapproval for the man. That being said, some of us weren't completely idiotic and didn't buy Mr. "Transcends Politics" nonsense.

I never did either, but I find his blatant ignorance towards large groups of people and his obvious flipflops (brilliantly delivered in an Orwellian style) really irritating. I can understand certain switches and half the time I don't care when someone changes positions on something, but when there are people out there who are constantly pressuring him and his administration to move on certain issues (Don't ask Don't tell, for instance) and the response we get is an effort to make sure everyone knows they're not doing a damn thing about it, it's frustrating.

There's also healthcare, where Obama also doesn't want to do anything radical, just hold hands and pretend we can work something out. Torture, where he's just acting like Bush-lite with a good smile, the economy, where he's too much of a wimp to do anything that's actually necessary, which ends up with a middle of the road strategy that's actually more harmful than doing nothing...

I don't know, I'm just tired of it. So tired of it I almost want to leave the party.
13807  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Monthly Obama Forum Approval - May 2009 on: May 25, 2009, 02:28:34 pm
Somewhere between Somewhat and Strongly Approve, but I'll vote Strongly Approve to cancel out the hacks.

Despite his spinelessness and his constant hypocrisies and flip-flops? I stand for my principles, not for people. I hope people here are sensible enough to do the same.

The only thing I was hugely disappointed on is the hangup on closing Gitmo, and that wasn't his fault.

Don't care much for gays then, I suppose Tongue
13808  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Monthly Obama Forum Approval - May 2009 on: May 25, 2009, 02:02:17 pm
Somewhere between Somewhat and Strongly Approve, but I'll vote Strongly Approve to cancel out the hacks.

Despite his spinelessness and his constant hypocrisies and flip-flops? I stand for my principles, not for people. I hope people here are sensible enough to do the same.
13809  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Why is it cool to persecute Christians? on: May 25, 2009, 01:58:30 pm
Has anyone here seen Maher's movie? Muslims and Jews got pretty badly bashed by it too.

I have and they most definitely did.
13810  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Monthly Obama Forum Approval - May 2009 on: May 25, 2009, 01:55:19 pm
Somewhat Disapprove
13811  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: US State Governors Survivor: Round 6 on: May 25, 2009, 01:14:39 pm
Who wants to bet the "winner" will be a Democrat?

It's pretty obvious since there are more Democratic hacks here than Republican hacks.

It's not our fault there are more crazy Republican Governors.
13812  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: US State Governors Survivor: Round 6 on: May 25, 2009, 01:14:15 pm
Jindal
13813  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senator PiT's Presidential Campaign Headquarters on: May 25, 2009, 01:02:08 pm
Bgwah, I will be replying to you through PM as I no longer wish for our little tiff to continue to disrupt this campaign thread.

Thank you, PS!  It is this kind of petty bickering that turns people off and drives them away.

Roll Eyes
13814  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Why is it cool to persecute Christians? on: May 24, 2009, 10:58:31 pm
I guess since I'm a bisexual Christian I have to hate myself. I guess that explains why I beat myself a lot . Cheesy

You're officially one of my favorite posters. Tongue
13815  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas BBQ: Potato Salad, Pasta Salad, or Cole Slaw on: May 24, 2009, 10:57:43 pm
Pasta salad please.
13816  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senator PiT's Presidential Campaign Headquarters on: May 24, 2009, 06:18:01 pm
Oh, I'm a mudslinger now. You and your cohorts have had your slime machine against me going on full blast for weeks now. I haven't minded, it's part of Atlasia. But you run away like a coward when I respond with the truth to your blatant lies and attacks.

I usually just like to think I'm saying what plenty of people are thinking but don't want to say. Tongue
13817  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: States where Clinton's 1996 % beat Obama's % on: May 24, 2009, 03:08:40 pm
Arizona, Wyoming, and Texas surprise me.
13818  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office Of MaxQue Campaign for the Pacific Regional Seat on: May 24, 2009, 12:40:28 pm
I certainly have my criticisms of the JCP and the way it's run, Franzl. (However I do think Bgwah and Lunar are more left wing economically than their PM scores would suggest.)

Possibly, although I do wonder what led you to leave the SPD, Marokai. Was it maybe because the SPD wasn't politically viable, and you wanted to join a party that had some chance of winning elections?

I'm not criticizing that alone, I understand that the SPD wasn't going anywhere, no reason to be ashamed of that. I support electoral alliances that help people further their goals....I just think your double standard concerning the DA is quite hypocritical.

Of course we wanted to win, I can't deny that but I think your comparison is a bit unfair. The JCP-SDP merger made sense because, even though you could point to a few examples, we're still largely socially and economically liberal. We merged because the left-wing vote was split down the middle because of party affiliation, even though we had a ton in common.

The DA is a fairly loosely connected group of people ranging anywhere from center-right to center-left, and even though we have economic centrists or conservatives you could probably count on one hand, we're united. I criticize the RPP/DA ticket not because of the merging, but because the merging makes no sense.

Happy is socially a centrist, PiT is socially liberal. Happy is a protectionist, PiT is a staunch libertarian. It doesn't seem to make much sense to me. I'm sure there were plenty of choices in the DA you could have made to make the ticket seem a bit more sensible and united. Even Hashemite, though he's hardly a conservative economically, at least hates trade unions.
13819  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office Of MaxQue Campaign for the Pacific Regional Seat on: May 24, 2009, 12:31:29 pm
I certainly have my criticisms of the JCP and the way it's run, Franzl. (However I do think Bgwah and Lunar are more left wing economically than their PM scores would suggest.)
13820  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office Of MaxQue Campaign for the Pacific Regional Seat on: May 24, 2009, 12:27:16 pm
Yeah Max and Realisticidealist apparently have so much in common politically.....yeah right.

But I suppose the fact that Max is now a member of the JCP makes that alright....anything to gain power, eh Marokai?

Yeah, well, it's not all about politics. I once said after being elected that if I felt that Max could do a better job, or at least if I didn't desire it anymore, that he was welcome to take my seat. I am fulfilling that promise.

I'm not blaming you at all...I hope that's not what it sounded like. My comment was directed at Marokai who tends to insult the DA for including people of various ideologies and supporting them. I was just pointing out that the JCP is doing exactly that by replacing you with Max, and that the very same people that voted almost unanimously for you last election (the JCP machine obviously rules the Pacific) will now happily cast their vote for Max because of his partisan affiliation. Still, I don't hear anything from Marokai about that.

I have an extremely high level of respect for you and your work in this Senate.

Party-politics I'm afraid, there's nothing I can do about that. Max though has been around for a very long time and has remained fairly active and interested in Atlasia the entire time.

They certainly have more in common than the protectionist and the libertarian.
13821  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senator PiT's Presidential Campaign Headquarters on: May 24, 2009, 12:23:57 pm
Excellent VP choice....and this ticket has my full support.

I can see that the JCP is already getting nervous about this team's chance of success, as evidenced by Marokai's recent comments.

Replace "nervous" with "amused" considering that I called exactly this sort of thing happening a month ago. PiT and HW have almost nothing in common politically and the only reason they're running together is to win.

Granted I'm sure there are some irrelevant issues where those two agree but "game reform" is a vague excuse used by people who have nothing in common to support one another and encourage everyone to hold hands to accomplish nothing. We never seem to be placing an emphasis on actual issues in governing. Almost everything that gets proposed in the Senate gets compromised to death with amendments to pass if it's too controversial (if there's ever any debate at all) all in the name of "activity" or legislation being passed that just has a bunch of junk to do with forum affairs.

And let's be realistic, these two are not going to be able to spearhead any new changes in the game on their own, are they? What are they going to be doing that isn't already being done or even could be done by them? The ConCon is moving along at it's own pace (for better or worse), I've written a new Introduction thread that's been desperately needed for months upon months, newbies seem to be being recruited on their own or finding their way here through some means. "Game reform" is a meaningless phrase used only to thinly cover up the fact that this is a coalition for winning an election, and not for governing.

By the way Marokai do you honestly think would just join this ticket as the "token" DA member? 

Want an honest answer? This would be like me joining a ticket with DWTL.
13822  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: An Announcement, to be read at your leisure on: May 24, 2009, 03:25:48 am
You have my complete support, Lief. If there's anything you need of me, let me know, though it would probably be best if you distanced yourself from my loud mouth. Tongue
13823  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Constitutional Convention / Re: Parliamentary Universalism (Motion at Vote) on: May 24, 2009, 03:23:28 am
Aye, Abstain
13824  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office Of MaxQue Campaign for the Pacific Regional Seat on: May 24, 2009, 02:02:34 am
I of course support you Max Smiley

Though I think it's fair to say all of Atlasia is a giant sour grape Tongue
13825  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senator PiT's Presidential Campaign Headquarters on: May 23, 2009, 09:21:54 pm
Riiight, okay then..
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