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13801  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Besides Minnesota, what "purplish" states are moving towards the GOP? on: June 19, 2009, 02:12:59 pm
Missouri seems to be becoming more Republican on the Presidential level races, but other than that, I can't think of any state that is moving towards the Republicans. I'm not convinced MN is trending Republican at all, and Michigan and Wisconsin I don't see trending Republican in any seriously noticeable way.

As for Iowa and Ohio, I would say those are actually trending Democratic and not Republican. I'm not sure how you could say otherwise.
13802  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: State by State Favorites: Kansas on: June 19, 2009, 01:52:20 pm
Eisenhower by a mile. One of the best Republicans Presidents.
13803  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: IP Checks on everyone new. on: June 19, 2009, 01:36:26 pm
A couple posters have hit 25 posts (the requirement for joining Atlasia) and then basically stopped posting or posted at a CONSIDERABLY lessened pace. I'd appreciate it if the mods could give us some feedback here.

Well, one of them, Cindywho2212, hasn't been on the computer since that first day. She has children, so has a busy life, and doesn't find a lot of time on here. She couldn't stay on long tonight, but she hopes to post some more this upcoming weekend.

Hm, and you're in touch with all these people? Wink
We know each other from an American Idol forum. She's a political addict, but kept getting banned from there, so I told her about this site.
She's the only member I know outside of Atlas.

Yeah.. getting someone from an American Idol forum to be your vote slave..
13804  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: FRANZL ELECTION TRACKER (UPDATED AS OF 7:00 AM EASTERN, FRIDAY 6/19/2009) on: June 19, 2009, 06:24:24 am
Italian boy's vote should be rendered invalid, there is commentary on it.

It's not active campaigning...I don't see how his commentary would make it invalid.

But that's for the SOFA to decide.

It's basically saying don't vote for Phil because of his party. It's demeaning his party.

I think it was clearly tongue-in-cheek, but as always, we'll see what Earl says Tongue
13805  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: FRANZL ELECTION TRACKER (UPDATED AS OF 7:00 AM EASTERN, FRIDAY 6/19/2009) on: June 19, 2009, 06:18:01 am
Italian boy's vote should be rendered invalid, there is commentary on it.

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The act of campaigning within the election booth is strictly forbidden and will render void any votes made by those who campaign.  The act of campaigning is considered to include, but is not limited to, strong attempts to compel others either to vote or not to vote for one or multiple candidates, or other related activities that could reasonably be construed as a direct attempt to influence how future voters cast their ballots.

However, the Department of Forum Affairs will make every effort to be fair in consideration of the above matter and will give voters the benefit of the doubt.  Explanations of one's vote or simple expressions of approval for a candidate will not be construed as acts of campaigning, unless they obviously violate the above criteria.

Commentary, as I've understood, is never used as justification for getting upset. Loitering is, perhaps, but italian-boy's vote doesn't fit the definition of "strong attempts to compel others to vote or not vote for one or multiple candidates" which would render it invalid. "Explanations of one's vote or simple expressions" are not prohibited, so his vote is valid, as I see it.
13806  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Republican Party Facing a Stacked Deck in Coming Decades... on: June 19, 2009, 05:37:42 am
Right, because Hispanics will always trend Democratic even though they voted 45% for Bush just five years ago. The only current minority groups that the Democrats really have a stranglehold indefinitely are blacks. Of course the point about the suburbs is obviously valid now, but the idea that Republicans are doomed because non-anglos are growing is extremely presumptuous.

You do realize that the article is about more than just racial demographics? Even if we're to accept your argument that Hispanics are not going to be solidly Democratic for the foreseeable future, this article is about more than that, it's about white voters declining, it's about young voters becoming increasingly Democratic, more diverse, less religious, it's about the decline of working class whites, which helps Democrats, it's about Democrats making gains among the more educated crowd.

The article here is a broader analysis of trends over the last couple decades and an increasing geographic, ideological, and racial divide that favors the Democrats in almost every way. I've talked about this before. Republicans have a long way to go before they can return to power again in a constant, powerful, sustained way.

Also, I think it's important to remember, as I said in my post I linked to above, that past Republican dominance wasn't really all that strong in comparison to the Democratic strength right now. Democrats at their strongest now are double the strength of the strongest past Republican Senate majority, and around triple the strength of the strongest Republican House of Representatives majority. Republicans basically got lucky in a series of elections, and were kept from losing power because of 9/11. Had 9/11 not happened and Bush's term continued in the lackluster way it was heading at the time, Republicans would have continued to lose power (as they had been doing basically since 1996) and Bush may very well have lost re-election. (And an important thing to keep in mind was that Bush lost the popular vote, despite narrowly "winning" in 2000.)

In short: Demographic, geographic, and ideological trends are going against the Republicans in every conceivable way, and Republican strength at it's strongest has been consistently weaker than Democratic strength at it's strongest because of this country's historical usual Democratic lean over the last 80 years. (Congressionally.)
13807  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: FRANZL ELECTION TRACKER (UPDATED AS OF 6:17 PM EASTERN, WEDNESDAY 6/17/2009) on: June 19, 2009, 04:22:03 am
I hope someone in officaldom is looking into this case.
She has a total of 26 posts, almost all of which were on 3 June, the last of that day (and her 25th in total) was her first post in Atlasia, registering herself as a voter. She then doesn't re-appear until today and makes 1 post - her vote.

You're surprised? We have a serious infestation on our hands. Sad

I'm aware of the large number of newbies we've had and I've no idea how legitimate or otherwise many of them are. This case, however, is the most remarkable I've seen.

I know that you've put forward an amendment to lift the posting requirements (which I favour), but I'm interested to know whether or not anyone is actually looking into these voters to ensure their legitimacy.

I've been wondering the same thing for days now but every time I mention it the mods never seem to say anything about it.
13808  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Intelligent Voting Amendment to the Constitution (Debating) on: June 19, 2009, 04:20:50 am
I am happy we could turn this into a broader amendment to raise the standards of participation.

Should we do something about absentee voting while we're at it?

     You mean eliminate the absentee booths & just have the regular booth open longer? I see no reason not to address that here.

Would anyone else like to deal with that? I'm not really sure how to go about making those changes. I can just delete my last post and combine it into one big change to the amendment.

Are non-senators allowed to post here?

Anyway, I just wanted to suggest that it'd probably be a good idea to give the absentee voting it's own amendment/law since there will (most likely) be trouble making the other part  pass, and there's no reason why this change shouldn't pass just because the other part fails. 

You're free to post here as long as it's constructive and doesn't interfere with Senate business. Smiley

I suspect, though, you're right. I would prefer to leave the absentee voting situation separate.
13809  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: FRANZL ELECTION TRACKER (UPDATED AS OF 6:17 PM EASTERN, WEDNESDAY 6/17/2009) on: June 19, 2009, 03:51:49 am
I hope someone in officaldom is looking into this case.
She has a total of 26 posts, almost all of which were on 3 June, the last of that day (and her 25th in total) was her first post in Atlasia, registering herself as a voter. She then doesn't re-appear until today and makes 1 post - her vote.

You're surprised? We have a serious infestation on our hands. Sad
13810  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Arnold stands up for poor defenseless oil companies on: June 19, 2009, 01:25:37 am
Yes, taxing companies makes them offer lower prices. /sarcasm

And cutting large welfare programs are going to help people in a recession. /sarcasm
13811  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Arnold stands up for poor defenseless oil companies on: June 19, 2009, 01:19:02 am
Aw, those poor oil companies. Sad
13812  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Atlasians for Intelligent and Active Legislators on: June 19, 2009, 01:11:33 am
I thank Ben for his imput in the debate thread for the Intelligent Voting Amendment Smiley

This is the current proposed change to the Amendment, I'll post it here for all to see and give their imput as well.

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Intelligent Voting Amendment to the Constitution

1. The Sixth Amendment is hereby repealed.

2. Each account must be at least 15 days old before registering to vote.

3. Article 1, Section 1, Clause 2 of the Constitution is amended to read the following:
"No Person shall be a Senator who has not attained 200 or more posts, who's account is not at least two months old, and is not a registered voter in the Region that they represent.

4. Article 2, Section 1, Clause 2 of the Constitution is amended to read the following:
"No person shall be President who has not attained 500 or more posts, who's account is not at least three months old, and is not a registered voter. No person ineligible to be elected to or to occupy the position of President shall be eligible to be elected to or to occupy the position of Vice President."

5. No person registered to vote before the ratification of this amendment shall be held to its requirements.

We're also thinking about including something about absentee voting, but nothing has been proposed yet formally.

And, just so people don't have to look it up, repealing the Sixth amendment raises the posting requirement for joining to 50, instead of 25 like it is currently.
13813  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Are Southerners motivated towards hyper-patriotism out of guilt? on: June 19, 2009, 12:24:09 am
Southern culture has long 'de-patriotized' the North, so as to escape the guilt of its own, real, treason.

You really think they feel guilty of their treason? I always had the inkling suspicion they were proud. 

I agree.  Don't Southerners make up a disproportionate part of our military?  I always thought it was part of their culture. 

Or because they're more poor.
13814  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Sanes only please on: June 19, 2009, 12:07:23 am
Probably talk radio. It has a wide reach and the fanatical tendency to grab onto ridiculous labels proudly, like "right wing extremist."
13815  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: IP Checks on everyone new. on: June 19, 2009, 12:02:09 am
A couple posters have hit 25 posts (the requirement for joining Atlasia) and then basically stopped posting or posted at a CONSIDERABLY lessened pace. I'd appreciate it if the mods could give us some feedback here.

Well, one of them, Cindywho2212, hasn't been on the computer since that first day. She has children, so has a busy life, and doesn't find a lot of time on here. She couldn't stay on long tonight, but she hopes to post some more this upcoming weekend.

Hm, and you're in touch with all these people? Wink
13816  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Atlasian Sentinel: Interview with Senator PiT on: June 18, 2009, 11:45:32 pm
I could give a good humorous interview if people are up for a good laugh.

How to Get A Girl In 10 Days
By Governor Duke
13817  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Atlasian Sentinel: Interview with Senator PiT on: June 18, 2009, 11:39:53 pm
Excellent!

I'll admit to being pleasantly surprised.

In truth I am a little bit as well.

Well, I will be conducting an interview with somebody tomorrow (not a government official), but I would certainly like to interview all you senators, especially as things quiet down in the off season.

My PM box is always open! I promise to make plenty of controversial remarks to get you lots of traffic. Tongue

Mine is open as well. I probably will generate some controversy as well especially with the ideas I am cooking up Grin .

I look forward to hearing them Tongue
13818  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Ohio Senate candidate shirtless on: June 18, 2009, 11:23:15 pm
This only solidifies my support of Brunner. Tongue
13819  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Conservatives Only please... (thank you very much) on: June 18, 2009, 11:20:38 pm
the anti-military, anti-troops activists

So the last Republican congress?
13820  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should Scott Roeder be tortured to prevent future terrorist attacks? on: June 18, 2009, 11:19:23 pm
13821  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Atlasian Sentinel: Interview with Senator PiT on: June 18, 2009, 11:18:08 pm
Excellent!

I'll admit to being pleasantly surprised.

In truth I am a little bit as well.

Well, I will be conducting an interview with somebody tomorrow (not a government official), but I would certainly like to interview all you senators, especially as things quiet down in the off season.

My PM box is always open! I promise to make plenty of controversial remarks to get you lots of traffic. Tongue
13822  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Ninth Post a Picture of Yourself thread (aka creepfest '09) on: June 18, 2009, 11:09:35 pm
God help the human race.
13823  General Politics / Economics / Re: Delay the Minimum-Wage Hike on: June 18, 2009, 11:05:45 pm
I'm undecided on minimum wage increases. Anyone want to sway my opinion? Tongue
13824  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Intelligent Voting Amendment to the Constitution (Debating) on: June 18, 2009, 11:00:32 pm
I am happy we could turn this into a broader amendment to raise the standards of participation.

Should we do something about absentee voting while we're at it?

     You mean eliminate the absentee booths & just have the regular booth open longer? I see no reason not to address that here.

Would anyone else like to deal with that? I'm not really sure how to go about making those changes. I can just delete my last post and combine it into one big change to the amendment.
13825  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Intelligent Voting Amendment to the Constitution (Debating) on: June 18, 2009, 10:56:44 pm
I am happy we could turn this into a broader amendment to raise the standards of participation.

Should we do something about absentee voting while we're at it?
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