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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How would you vote on the TPP? on: April 18, 2015, 07:30:32 pm
I agree somewhat with Lief's criticism of the "secret negotiations" hysteria, but still am adamantly opposed to the deal.
2  General Politics / Economics / Re: Is Social Security regressive? on: April 18, 2015, 04:27:22 pm
Viewed from a broader perspective it's sort of surprising when you lay all this out that Social Security isn't particularly well liked from a lot of Republicans. It's funded through regressive taxation, directly scales its benefits with the higher-earning, and only exists to support the very old. Were I a right-winger I don't think I'd have much to complain about.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: When do you plan on endorsing Hillary Clinton for President? on: April 17, 2015, 11:06:21 pm
I can't think of any likely circumstances under which I would not vote for the Democratic  presidential nominee in 2016.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kasich getting serious, launches PAC to raise money on: April 17, 2015, 10:18:26 am
Out of curiosity, have there been any polls that match up Hillary ad Kasich in Ohio?
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: April 2015 At-large Senate Election on: April 17, 2015, 01:46:05 am
1. North Carolina Yankee
2. Polnut
3. Lief
4. Cris
5. Blair
6. Poirot
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Neoliberal corporatist Hillary swings wildly to the left after feet held to fire on: April 16, 2015, 05:36:42 pm
I am not dismissive of the notion that Hillary is full of s**t on plenty of things, but the criticism of her on this board in the last few days has been nonsensical and constantly contradicts itself. I hate feeling almost obligated to defend her against such shifting goalposts.
7  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Gloria Steinem on: April 16, 2015, 04:29:25 pm
I don't have much against her. Far from perfect but she's done a great deal of good.
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Can a mod please direct our gay porn-spamming troll to PAPOY? on: April 15, 2015, 11:39:32 am
Or the Internet has just completely ruined my ability to be shocked.

I guess it's a good thing that I accidentally fell across Encyclopedia Dramatica yesterday. This place is pure evil. The lowest circle of internet hell. So yeah, tbh I also feel like nothing can hurt me anymore.

Oh you're adorable.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: FiveThirtyEight: Rubio first real candidate to enter, Cruz/Paul not serious on: April 14, 2015, 10:49:31 am
I remember Lief, in particular, being sick of 538 before the 2014 elections, dude.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: FiveThirtyEight: Rubio first real candidate to enter, Cruz/Paul not serious on: April 14, 2015, 10:05:15 am
I enjoy how much this forum has turned on 538.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who should Hillary Clinton pick as her VP? on: April 13, 2015, 11:15:32 pm
Castro is the most overrated person in the history of ever when it comes to these lists. He was mayor of a city and is now toiling away in some Cabinet position because there wasn't any other statewide office he would've gotten elected to. He is not going to be the VP.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Gay Couple Featured in Hillary's Campaign Video Invites her to their Wedding on: April 13, 2015, 10:51:59 pm
I seriously doubt he has almost anything else on his mind, at this point.
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of jocks on: April 13, 2015, 10:49:19 pm
Don't care (normal, not in middle or high school anymore)
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Gay Couple Featured in Hillary's Campaign Video Invites her to their Wedding on: April 13, 2015, 10:47:01 pm
I find Hillary's status as some sort of icon among the gay community to be sort of bizarre, frankly.


Try not to salivate too much at all the pictures.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why do some Republicans hate President Obama that much? on: April 13, 2015, 10:53:31 am
I'm so tired of the "Bush was hated just as much" thing. Yeah, fine, but he was hated with much better justification. It's not debatable that foreign affairs have been handled much better under Obama, or that the economy has been on a consistently positive upturn in contrast to the economy piddling along and crashing under Bush.

It's also not debatable that Obama won both of his elections handily and fairly, while Bush won two narrow victories, one in which he lost the popular vote and won through a friendly Supreme Court intervention and a few hundred vote difference. There is no equivalence between complaining about that being fishy in a 271-266 victory and complaining ACORN stealing the election in a 365-173 victory.

This was an actual montage from Hannity's show in February 2009. Here's another one by the end of April.

People did not react to Bush in this manner.
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: UK General Election, 2015 on: April 13, 2015, 10:27:18 am
Once upon a time the Lib Dems used to win these sort of polls. Good times.

Labour.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Well, your opinion of Hillary's video? on: April 12, 2015, 02:47:16 pm
I felt adequately pandered to.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Should Hillary have had plastic surgery again before jumping in the race? on: April 12, 2015, 08:20:46 am
No. For in other reason than it would look waaaaay more obvious. Since she not planning on running from her gender this time, it would send a terrible message to women that she running, just as soon as she's been freshened up for public display.

And honestly, the same people who would freak about about her appearance would just be doing the same thing if it was obvious she got a facelift. The conservative radio talking heads are going to mock her either way.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: I'm kind of disgusted with you people right now on: April 12, 2015, 05:24:55 am
I've done my best to avoid anything even tangentially Update-related, so I'm sort of surprised this kind of thing happened at all.
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Hillary Clinton on: April 10, 2015, 08:12:09 pm
She will have my unenthusiastic support in the general election, and that's really as far as I've thought about her lately.
21  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your Bottom 10 Presidents List on: April 09, 2015, 03:31:57 pm
As much as I agree with Nix on 95% of things, his hatred of everything Clintonian is bizarrely devoid of any sense of proportion and/or perspective.  I really don't get it.

I mean, sure, if you want to be "serious" about Clinton the guy probably wasn't a person with a very high moral standard for himself, to put it mildly. But I find it hard to argue that he was a worst President, even by personal standards like that, than GWB. Let alone in practice.
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your Bottom 10 Presidents List on: April 09, 2015, 03:23:20 pm
The unapologetic criminals (Nixon, Clinton); the dithering defenders of slave power (Pierce, Buchanan, Fillmore, Tyler); the Strangelovian reprobates who brought us to the brink of a nuclear holocaust (Kennedy, Reagan); Andrew Johnson, an irredeemable, reptilian, white supremacist lush who never should have been allowed to take office in the first place; and Andrew Jackson, the genocidal, hyper-masculine savage.

I can understand and even respect a certain distaste and dislike of Clinton, but to consider him lower than GWB...
23  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Should Holocaust denial be a criminal offense? on: April 08, 2015, 11:02:32 pm
I have no love for those activist types for the most part at all, but I think assuming they would set up reeducation camps is a skosh over the top.
24  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Should Holocaust denial be a criminal offense? on: April 08, 2015, 10:46:24 pm
The entire purpose of free speech is to protect people who you disagree with...

It seems like literally none of our leftist European posters understand this concept.

One of the things that has sadly left me feeling a bit estranged from the Left over the last year is realizing exactly how many people of that political persuasion are just as comfortable throwing away the rights of people they just don't like as much as the Right can be.

A free, liberal democracy only works when you protect the rights of the contemptible as well as the noble. If you open the door to censoring things based on your tastes you legitimize that tactic against yourself down the road. And there is no real defense when you deem arbitrary bulls**t subjective tastes fair game as a justification.
25  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Should Armenian Genocide denial be a criminal offense? on: April 08, 2015, 03:59:58 pm
I think I agree with Train on this one.
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