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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: June 2016 Federal Election on: June 26, 2016, 10:58:15 pm
1. Truman/Kalwejt
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why is Clinton always held to a higher standard? on: June 15, 2016, 02:11:55 pm
It's obviously motivated by self-interest, but all politics is to some degree. If he makes incidentally good arguments for reform I prefer to evaluate them on their merits separate from that. We should get rid of caucuses, but there's plenty of other potential reforms we would be better for, too.

Anyway, this is all veering off-topic. The question was why Hillary was treated with a different standard. They were different situations, different times, and different kinds of candidates. An ancillary question was why he's still in this. We know why. If this was just another sh**-on-Bernie thread then I guess I'm too naive.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why is Clinton always held to a higher standard? on: June 15, 2016, 02:06:15 pm
Well that's subjective.

"The changes are just a list of things that would help him" sounds like a Republican argument against Democratic attempts at voter reform. Are you so cynical toward his opinion about primary and party reform that you refuse to accept any possibility that these are genuine positions he would have, regardless? Does that apply, in your view, to other attempts at voter reform in general from other Democrats?
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why is Clinton always held to a higher standard? on: June 15, 2016, 01:59:25 pm
Why does he want to ride it out, though? What does he gain? Also, who does want to be the nominee? If it's not Hillary, what's his justification for overturning the will of the voters? He can't even answer the most basic question. His position is incoherent.

Bernie Sanders is a 74 year old activist candidate who wants to exert his influence where possible because this is his last big shot. In 2008, Hillary Clinton was a 60 year old establishment candidate who purely wanted to win the nomination, and she still had a potential future shot, which we now know she got, and probably planned as soon as she lost in '08. It makes sense given their age and their styles, that Hillary would drop out to save face for a future run and Bernie would hang in there to milk every last concession.

What does he want? I suppose to change the party's inner workings, if nothing else. Changes to DNC leadership, how primaries are structured, the nature of superdelegates, etc. Hillary had no desire, or reason, to change those things.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why is Clinton always held to a higher standard? on: June 15, 2016, 01:30:03 pm
I think part of it is that, in 2008, there was genuine fear that a long and protracted primary would damage the Democrats' chances of taking back control of the White House. This fear was driven by two main factors: Each side of the conflict held sway over a big part of the Democratic "base." Obama and Clinton each had substantial "establishment" backing and obvious, big demographic backing behind each. Secondly, we never really had a primary this close, or so embittered, prior to that point. So it was easier to err on the side of assuming it was best to end it as soon as possible.

Neither of these things are really so true this time. Though Sanders commands the hearts and minds of a certain part of the left, he never had near the big-name backing that Obama or Clinton had in their fight. Much of Sanders' support comes from Independent and protest votes combined with activist lefties who are either going to vote for Clinton or they won't. There's no real risk that suddenly Pennsylvania is out of play (like the Clintons loved teasing would be the case in 2008) or anything like that. Plus, we now know that the 2008 primary probably was beneficial more than it was detrimental. There's no real evidence it divided the party all that much in the end, or that it limited Obama's electoral strength in the general, judging by the results. It's much easier to just let Sanders ride out the rest of it, give him concessions on convention matters, and move on.
6  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: London mayor bans "body shaming" advertising (that depicts revealing women) on: June 14, 2016, 10:12:27 pm
At least framing it as "not wanting to give a platform to raunch" would be more honest than trying to claim it's about "body shaming."
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mass shooting at LGBT nightclub in Orlando. on: June 12, 2016, 10:06:38 am
The reddit thread on killer's identity...

/r/news locked down discussion of the shooting literally as soon as the shooter's identity came out. It basically pushed all discussion of it over to grosser subreddits like /r/TheDonald.

Here is what his father says. The guy was born and raised in the US, this probably has nothing to do with terrorism.

[snip]

You and I both know what this thread would look like if the shooter was some white dude named Timothy Johnson from Alabama.
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: May 2016 House of Representatives Elections on: May 29, 2016, 12:52:25 pm
[1] 1184AZ

[2] Dkrolga

[3] Darthebear

[4] NeverAgain

[5] CXSmith
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of AverroŽs on: March 31, 2016, 03:23:12 pm
The best. Duh.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Are you #Ready4Hillary? on: March 17, 2016, 07:02:06 pm
I'll never be ready for Hillary, but I am ready to keep Trump out of the White House.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic Ides of March Tuesday results thread (first polls close at 7pm ET) on: March 15, 2016, 08:10:25 pm
If you are a Sanders supporter and you think a literal fascist is better than Clinton, you are literally an embarrassment to Senator Sanders and the campaign he's running.

Hard to disagree.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic Ides of March Tuesday results thread (first polls close at 7pm ET) on: March 15, 2016, 05:40:31 pm

"More liberal policies" was at 31% in the CBS Michigan exit poll, ftr.
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary tries to attack bernie on healthcare, fails spectacularly on: March 12, 2016, 08:26:26 pm
So because he was standing behind her in a photo he meaningfully contributed to the '93/'94 heath care debate?

It's from a video where she explicitly mentions him in thanking others for the "leadership" on the issue.
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: CNN Flint, MI Democratic debate @8pm ET **live commentary thread** on: March 06, 2016, 08:46:18 pm
Whenever Wall St. comes up Hillary's responses are always so embarrassing and weak. It's always stuff like "I told them to stop being bad! I really strongly suggested they clean up their act!" Come on.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Sources: SCOTUS nomination may be announced soon; 8th circuit judge being vetted on: March 02, 2016, 08:16:46 pm
^ It would be a really great perspective to have on the court.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you use twitter? on: March 02, 2016, 12:26:39 am
Yes, almost exclusively to follow people I like keeping tabs on and a few friends whom I have fairly common political conversations with.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic Super Tuesday results thread (first polls close at 7pm ET) on: March 02, 2016, 12:25:02 am
Sanders has 'GOP lite' appeal amongst non white voters. And yet apparently that's their fault. Not his. If you want to try and win an election on white voters backs go ahead. But it's getting almost delusional now.

And what exactly does this mean?
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: South Dakota Senate passes anti-transgender bill on: March 01, 2016, 06:26:14 pm
Vetoed.
19  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the term 'cuck'? on: February 29, 2016, 02:26:53 pm
People can use whatever terms they want when they're making jokes - whatever. I've laughed at creative use of it.

Sincere use of it however, is, more than being offensive, just really stupid.
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "Gay, transgender movements need a divorce" on: February 29, 2016, 02:21:39 pm
The vast majority of trans individuals do not crave attention. Quite the opposite.
21  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of Pokemon (20th Anniversary Special!) on: February 28, 2016, 10:57:16 pm
It really wasn't until I picked up the Yo-Kai Watch game that I realized how all of the Pokemon games at this point are kinda sh**ty. They've really not evolved at all, run pretty poorly, and at this point have been made so offensively easy that I really feel like the series' continued popularity is pretty unjustified. The games peaked at Black/White and declined hard. The anime is what it is.
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of political correctness on: February 28, 2016, 05:01:46 pm
Horrible, obviously. It's amazing just how many things trigger people nowadays. You can't even say something as innocuous as "Happy Holidays" anymore without offending someone.

I know you're being sarcastic of course, but I actually genuinely feel this way. "Political correctness" being attacked by the Right is actually kind of hilarious because they're among the biggest whiners whenever someone cops an attitude or uses the wrong words. Exhibit A: Trump whining about Megyn Kelly daring to ask him questions.

My position of course is that both camps who get whiny in this way are wrong and people should be able to say whatever they please. I don't draw any special exemption for myself, which is what almost everyone does when this topic comes up.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: BREAKING Gabbard resigns from DNC and endorses Bernie on: February 28, 2016, 12:00:55 pm
Well, they both criticize President Obama, except while Sanders says he's not "progressive enough", the charge from Gabbard is "not saying 'Islamic terrorism'". She's probably more hawkish that Hillary and it's ironic that the Sanders supporters who criticize Hillary for "evolving" on LGBT issues don't have the same issues with Tulsi.

There's plenty about Tulsi I really don't like. "Eccentric congresswoman from Hawaii" is just not quite as big on my radar as "the likely Democratic nominee for President."
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Beefs with Hillary on: February 28, 2016, 11:26:03 am
I guess I'll keep this one short.

There's not a single time I can think of over her entire political career I can point to and say "There. Hillary took a position against conventional wisdom and stuck her neck out to do the right thing because she believed in it. Right on." Not one. She will always move with the political winds, and this has led her to taking numerous terrible positions over the years for the sake of political expediency. I could never trust her judgment like I could with Obama and Bernie. Hillary's first consideration will always be polls. That's not what I want from a leader.

Lots but they all come about because of one fact.

Hillary is a coward who will only support a position once it has majority support.

More succinctly put.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: BREAKING Gabbard resigns from DNC and endorses Bernie on: February 28, 2016, 10:19:23 am
I've always liked Gabbard, but why bother doing this at this point?
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