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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which of the two above posters would you choose as a dormmate? on: May 26, 2015, 11:25:30 pm
Having a Mormon as a roomie might be fun.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Boston University professor: White Males a "problem population" on: May 26, 2015, 07:56:37 pm
You know what I've noticed?
I've noticed on every job application I fill out, it asks me if I'm black or latino, followed by a disclaimer saying the employer is an "equal opportunity employer." So, to me, that'd imply that if I put down I was black or Latino, I'd have a higher chance of getting the job.

These things usually don't really mean anything, though, for most jobs. They're on there because they have to be and usually serve as a means to collect statistics rather than a way to keep the white man down. Affirmative action is not the omnipresent force that you make it out to be, even setting aside the qualitative argument of it all.

I've noticed at my college scholarships which are only for black youths, that specifically don't include me. I don't see any "United White Folks' College Fund" or any such thing.

Why does this not make sense to you? The poverty rate for black Americans is roughly twice as high as whites. The graduation rate for blacks is substantially lower. Blacks are less likely than whites to be hired even with a college/university education and still make less money, anyway. Do you really not see a legitimate cause for efforts made to specifically increase the amount of black students in colleges and universities?

As far as arrests - I've never been in a situation where I've had a run in with the law. You know why? It isn't because I'm white and privileged. It's because I keep a low profile and go about my business in a very nondescript way. I live in a big city and as far as I've seen, no one really cares what you do here - black or white.

I don't know how you can look at statistics that show blacks are killed by cops at a rate ten times higher than whites and not realize race must be a component. Hell, you mention big cities, and NYC is the classic example of police disproportionately harassing minorities for doing nothing wrong.

Quote from: HuffPo
The most alarming component of these arrests, however, are the racial disparities. Nearly 90% of all those arrested for possession of marijuana are Black and Latino. Whites comprise 35% of the City population, but make up less than 10% of all those arrested for possession of marijuana.

How would you explain this?

I haven't noticed a circumstance where I experienced 'privilege' because it hasn't happened to me. You can refuse to believe that all you want and believe the Marxian way and what your college professors brainwashed you into believing - but in my circumstance, I know my life a lot better than you do.

I'm a high school drop-out with a GED and if you think I'm a "cultural Marxist" you know very little about the arguments I've gotten into on these topics in the past.

Atlas is the only site where I can be called both a rape-apologist MRA and also cultural marxist PC-lover.

Society is making it more and more where being a white guy means you're "uncool", "not wanted by women", where you're the "bad guy" whose only historical or present day role is to "keep down people of color/gays/women" etc. When society and the media - and then their followers in the SJW and cultural liberal world rehash those beliefs - you begin to feel marginalized in your society. And that your society expects you to feel ashamed of being a white guy or guilty for crimes you didn't commit.

Honestly when it comes to this I say the same to you as I say to social justice types that argue "society" is misogynistic or whatever. Who is "society" here? Who is doing this to you? What authority figure, what organization, what government in this country, or even in the Western world is doing this? And what are "they" specifically doing to cause these vague hurt feelings? Where's the "Men Suck & They're Uncool Act"? There are many, many individual components of "society" and when you get to close to one or two of them you begin to think that's all there really is. Your view is horrifically distorted.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather attend Eurovision or Dude Fest? on: May 26, 2015, 11:12:52 am
I'm going to go out on a limb and say there probably isn't a boy out there who wishes for an Easy-Bake Oven for every girl who has one thrown out.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Boston University professor: White Males a "problem population" on: May 26, 2015, 11:08:28 am
You're deliberately misunderstanding the proper concept of privilege, though, and only attacking a version of it that only the craziest of the social justice types actually believe, that whites/males/white males always, in every situation, have greater privileges than anyone else. This is obviously untrue and I haven't seen anyone in this thread actually argue that.

"White male privilege" only means there are certain situations where, other things being equal, you are likely to be favored because of your race and/or sex. Obviously the upper class black female NYC stock-broker is more privileged than the Kentucky white male fast-food worker. But there's really no way an intellectually honest individual can look at things like statistics for arrests, or who gets hired for certain jobs, and not realize these things are a factor and are bent in your favor. To what extent, or where, or in what circumstances that is bent in your favor, can be argued, fine. But it very often is.

Nowhere in these processes are people trying to get you to apologize for being white. Well, no one reasonable, anyway. I'm curious what logic led you to the conclusion that people were.

And I wouldn't base an entire argument off this, as it's sort of a fallacy I guess, but could you at least admit the possibility that you don't think you've benefited from privilege in your life because you just didn't notice? And that simply not noticing a phenomenon doesn't mean it isn't there?
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Sam Spade Memorial Good Post Gallery on: May 26, 2015, 04:13:40 am
Most presidential historians rank by consequentiality, rightly or wrongly. That's why top ten lists are dominated by some shady and perhaps controversial characters who still have effects reverberating today - Jackso, Polk, Wilson, Teddy Roosevelt etc. Coolidge was never a man interested in building a 'legacy' and indeed a few decades after his presidency, all remnants were eroded away. That small government, austere and Prohibitionist, vaguely isolationist, highly protectionist model he craved was washed away by FDR and his successors; the modern GOP (even those who speak highly of the man) has no desire to return to that party.

He firmly didn't understand or even care about how the very role of President had shifted beneath his feet. Consider the contrast between Reagan and his hero Coolidge when disasters struck. After the Mississippi floods, Coolidge didn't really get that he was expected to be something more than a distant figurehead. Was it an admirable stance, as he maintained, to avoid politicking by staying away? Possibly - but as future President Reagan would show upon the Challenger disaster, such aloofness was rapidly becoming fatal for the role of POTUS. In foreign policy and immigration, again, Coolidge laid no lasting impact. His Immigration Act lasted the longest time, but that would be dismantled in the Johnson administration - now recognising the Act as an anachronistic racist failure.

Again there is much to admire about the character about of Calvin Coolidge - his steps against racism (aforementioned Immigration Acts aside)and lynching were extremely laudable. I get why he is loved by a certain type of person. I even get his 'wit' - although it reminds me of social awkwardness more than anything else. But was Calvin Coolidge a man of consequence, a president who will be go down in the ages? No, of course not. And, quite frankly, that is just how he would prefer to be remembered.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: MD Gov. Larry Hogan vetoes bills related to criminal justice reform on: May 26, 2015, 04:08:56 am
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - The Whinge Binge on: May 21, 2015, 11:05:33 pm
I'm so sorry Afleitch. Truly terrible.
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AZ shuts down welfare benefits after 12 months...... on: May 19, 2015, 06:30:49 pm
The idea of lifetime limits on social assistance is totally insane and evil.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: President Obama proves he is a Man of the People on: May 18, 2015, 12:40:22 pm
How hip.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary backs Tubman on $20 on: May 15, 2015, 02:54:21 pm
I don't see any big issue with this though I would prefer Eleanor Roosevelt. But whatever. Hard thing to be opposed to.
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - 2015 on: May 14, 2015, 03:56:50 pm
Well I'm pleasantly surprised.

I hate the Liberals as much as the next guy, but Liberals finishing in third probably means another Conservative majority government.

Not necessarily. If the Liberals end up in the teens again and the Conservatives somehow capture just shy of 40% of the vote, then sure. But I don't think either of those things are likely to happen again. Trudeau isn't a great leader, but he's still more popular at the end of the day than the Liberal leaders have been for a decade and there's been more than enough built-up backlash over the course of the many Conservative governments that I doubt Stephen Harper can pull that number again. The Conservatives haven't been near 40% since the end of 2011 and have just been hovering around the low thirties for a really long time.

Of course Canada is wildly unpredictable and the election is months away, so all of this is nearly meaningless, but still. The Cons got a majority because of two factors, not just the Liberal collapse to sub-19%; they also got 40% of the vote. At least one of those things isn't likely to happen again, probably both. And scaremongering about the inexperienced, unexpected NDP isn't likely to work as well the second time around after a full term of opposition and the ability for the NDP to claim they represent everyone from Alberta to Quebec.

I have my doubt about the ability for the NDP to form a government on their own, of course, and I'm an endless pessimist, but I feel pretty safe in feeling like another Conservative majority is pretty unlikely. But again. Canada.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Senate Dems relent on TPP/TPA on: May 13, 2015, 08:32:18 pm
As if there was ever any doubt.
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is Obama a socialist? on: May 13, 2015, 07:13:06 pm
Not even close.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Apples or bananas? on: May 13, 2015, 02:38:16 pm
15  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Iceland election 2017 on: May 12, 2015, 04:11:12 pm
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Rachel Maddow on: May 11, 2015, 05:13:56 pm
The best MSNBC has to offer. Aside from her and Chris Hayes I actually sort of dislike their lineup, these days. I enjoy her style of breaking down news stories more than anybody on cable news.
17  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Liberal Democrats on: May 10, 2015, 05:45:47 pm
Completely worthless.
18  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of "first past the post" on: May 09, 2015, 05:14:16 pm
Hilariously terrible.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of bgwah on: May 09, 2015, 11:53:41 am
Despite the drama of past years in Atlasia I never actually hated him or anything. He's a little odd but I've liked him for most of my time here.
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Pickup Artists on: May 09, 2015, 11:52:43 am
Lief's rare break of character there makes a good point to keep in mind that the concept of the thing is not inherently awful and there's probably something positive to be gleaned from from the wreckage of it (especially, as mentioned, for the people who need that extra guiding hand in social skills or whatever), but obviously how it basically formed a little niche industry and subculture, and the people you will tend to come across that are running that sort of thing, tend way more often than not to be creepy, or as Lief mentioned, outright psychotic.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Boston University professor: White Males a "problem population" on: May 09, 2015, 11:36:24 am
Cory, I like you and all, you're a better person than people think you are, but please don't post while drunk. You know it never works out.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Boston University professor: White Males a "problem population" on: May 08, 2015, 09:24:36 pm
I love how Beet has gotten all in my face about feminist issues before but then he requotes that.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Boston University professor: White Males a "problem population" on: May 08, 2015, 05:58:49 pm
want me to find you some examples of people arguing exactly that?

No, because I'm aware there are plenty of fools arguing exactly that. But simply expressing concern or disagreement over what was in the original post does not mean you are immediately doing that.
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Boston University professor: White Males a "problem population" on: May 08, 2015, 05:02:32 pm
More evidence that white men are the real victims of oppression and discrimination. Sad

25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather live in Alberta or Scotland? on: May 08, 2015, 03:54:04 pm
Alberta without a doubt.
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