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26  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ontario 2014 (June 12th) on: June 12, 2014, 09:10:12 pm
The overall increase in share for the NDP is not-insignificant, but if the NDP is going to ever have a future in government, they need to stop the slide in Toronto. Horwath is charismatic, debates well, and is well liked publicly, and I think the NDP would be foolish to consider getting rid of her, but her obsession with a populist tone has been a mistake for their long-term fortunes.

As for the PCs: lol.
27  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Nearly 3 Million Medicaid Sign-Up Applications Still Unprocessed on: June 07, 2014, 07:03:40 pm
So I'm sure this means that Republicans and Democrats will come together to pass a bill hiring more public employees to help process these remaining applicants, right?
28  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Spring 2014 Convention - SENATE ENDORSEMENT VOTE on: June 07, 2014, 05:01:51 pm
I really should participate in these things more often. I'M ALLOWED, RIGHT?



IDS SENATE:

[  ] Maxwell (Democratic-Republican)
[X] North Carolina Yankee (Federalist)

MIDEAST SENATE:

[X] Benconstine (The People's Party)
[  ] DC Al Fine (Federalist)
[  ] MadmanMotley (Democratic-Republican)
29  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: POLL re gay marriage on: June 03, 2014, 10:16:25 pm
Notice I am not saying that all white people are responsible but that white people are responsible. There's a distinct difference here.

As long as this distinction is constantly remembered I think it's sort of impossible to disagree much. I'm not even really sure what the issue is with what DFB is saying, here.
30  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ontario election, Spring 2014? on: June 03, 2014, 06:54:27 pm
Horwath stumbled through those closing remarks pretty hard.
31  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ontario election, Spring 2014? on: June 01, 2014, 10:33:55 pm

All three of them prefer Star Trek over Star Wars; how is that going to make the decision of Undecided Star Trek Voter any easier?
32  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Tumblr vs. Reddit on: June 01, 2014, 08:44:58 pm
Oh I don't doubt that you're not making it up, but Reddit is so cleanly divided into different sections that it seems weird to me to take issue with the overall site. It's like saying you wouldn't use the internet because there are pedophiles that exist somewhere on it.
33  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Tumblr vs. Reddit on: June 01, 2014, 08:22:22 pm
From a usability perspective I find Reddit far superior. Easier to find things, easier to navigate in general, easier to have an actual back-and-forth.

The people who hate Reddit remind me of the people who have some weird issue with TV Tropes.
34  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Saw film series vs. Final Destination film series on: June 01, 2014, 06:23:41 pm
Saw is genuinely horrifying. FD is just ridiculous.

That's why FD is better.
35  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Best Grand Theft Auto game? on: June 01, 2014, 04:11:10 pm
The Los Santos setting never really did much for me.
36  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of these images on: June 01, 2014, 04:08:23 pm
Neutral images? I don't really see anything horrible or freedom fighting in them.
37  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What kind of milk do you prefer? on: June 01, 2014, 01:40:50 pm
2%. 1% I'm more or less okay with, though you can certainly tell the difference. Skim just tastes weird to me; though if I had to live with it I'd probably get used to it after a month or two like you would with anything else.
38  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Poll: Do you remember this song? on: May 30, 2014, 12:48:30 am
Sure, I remember it. It's from an awful era of pop-punk bands where a ton the lead singers sounded exactly like this. A mediocre song from a really awful trend.
39  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gunman near UCSB kills 6 people, injures 7 on: May 29, 2014, 12:11:43 pm
It still ain't the video games, Mr. Lieberman.

How ridiculous that GTA 5 could inspire things like this, right?

Now, Revenge of the Nerds on the other hand..
40  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gunman near UCSB kills 6 people, injures 7 on: May 28, 2014, 05:38:17 pm
I guess I expect the reaction from most quarters here to be dismissive

You would be correct.

So you don't think misogyny and sexual entitlement in male-dominated cultures are problems?

Yes, you nailed it. That's exactly what I said.

No. Misogyny is real, and misogyny can kill. ____-dominated anything is typically unhealthy and leads to bad sh*t. With this I agree wholeheartedly. Misogynists, like those who genuinely and viciously hate any group of innocent people, are scum.

It would be simple if that were the gist of that article, and all that the author meant to imply, but it wasn't.

Much of what I have a problem with in this conversation was exactly the sort of stuff in that article. The "I'm not saying ___, (but I'm totally saying ___)" sort of statements, the accusatory generalizations, the obsession with the term "rape culture" when that term helps no one, indirectly encouraging its use as a cudgel against innocent people, and actively strips focus away from individual responsibility, the staggering over-simplification, the dismissal of mental health as if that's somehow a suspicious scapegoat and had nothing to do with it, because statements like this:

Quote from: p136 of the Manifesto
The first strike against women will be to quarantine all of them in concentration camps. At these camps, the vast majority of the female population will be deliberately starved to death. That would be an efficient and fitting way to kill them all off. I would take great  pleasure and satisfaction in condemning every single woman on earth to starve to death. I would have an enormous tower built just for myself, where I can oversee the entire concentration camp and gleefully watch them all die. If I can’t have them, no one will, I’d imagine thinking to myself as I oversee this. Women represent everything that is unfair with this world, and in order to make the world a fair place, they must all be eradicated.

A few women would be spared, however, for the sake of reproduction. These women would be kept and bred in secret labs. There, they will be artificially inseminated with sperm samples in order to produce offspring. Their depraved nature will slowly be bred out of them in time.

...are totally the writings of a sane man with no psychotic delusions at all and just part of, as the article calls it, "a standard frustrated angry geeky guy manifesto."

"Except for the part about mass murder" of course, the article is quick to include as a caveat. You know; minor detail.

It would be the grossest understatement of all to say our culture has a lot of work to do with itself. But the amount of leaping on this controversy to prove some sort of point kind about.. Revenge of the Nerds? I don't find it helpful, and I actually find it sort of insultingly simplistic. The article ends with saying that Elliot Rodger just "needed to grow up" implying that Rodger is totally just like any other guy, totally not abnormal in any personal respect. Just an immature geek who decided to one day pick up a gun because he couldn't "grow up" and all the talk about mental health is a smokescreen.

And it's statements like that which lead to the insulting idea that men should somehow have to "prove" themselves as "safe" instead of just assuming that is the default that it totally is. A few days back I posted a report from RAINN.org that mentioned their research showing that, with one group of studies, "3% of college men are responsible for 90% of rapes." With another only "3% - 7%" of college aged men have committed, or would ever consider acting out, sexual assault.

This may scare some women out there, and I understand that. Yet, we're talking about an incredibly small percentage of people, and this constant latching on to broad, sweeping terms like "rape culture" encourages a kind of hysteria. A hysteria that's not all that dissimilar to stereotypes of black people as violent criminals, or muslims as bigots or terrorist sympathizers. Black people do commit more crimes as a percentage of people than whites do, afterall. Several times more likely to commit murder, several times more likely to steal, and several times more likely to commit crime on a white person than the other way around. None of that justifies bigotry or stereotypes. None of that excuses a person who would say they have residual feelings of discomfort around blacks. Why is it okay to encourage a sense of fear among women toward the men they meet in their daily lives, the vast, vast majority of which are not going to harm them?

Again: Is there any evidence that Rodger had any mental illness or anything specific and certifiable for which he was in therapy other than Asperger's Syndrome? Because I haven't seen any.

It's impossible to truly know without being close to the situation, but he had seen several psychiatrists and was prescribed medication(s) (in at least one instance, the medication being Risperidone) that he refused to take. It's used to treat schizophrenia, but also childhood autism, so your guess would be as good as mine. Granted, I don't think it takes much to read his manifesto on top of that, and maybe think he was suffering from some form of schizophrenia, but regardless it's quite clear he had severe psychological issues that were not being treated.

2) Violent computer games
3) Action movies

It's deeply disturbing to me how much otherwise intelligent leftists can give of echos of Jack Thompson, becoming the cultural nannyists they would've otherwise hated if this were even just a decade ago.
41  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gunman near UCSB kills 6 people, injures 7 on: May 28, 2014, 12:23:59 pm
I guess I expect the reaction from most quarters here to be dismissive

You would be correct.
42  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gunman near UCSB kills 6 people, injures 7 on: May 27, 2014, 09:57:57 pm
Nothing ever really does.
43  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gunman near UCSB kills 6 people, injures 7 on: May 27, 2014, 04:21:32 pm
At least he's honest, I guess.
44  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Tumblr Leftism vs. MRAs on: May 26, 2014, 07:49:26 pm
Elliot Rodger was not an MRA, nor is there any actual reason to believe that "movement" had any appreciable affect on his development.
45  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gunman near UCSB kills 6 people, injures 7 on: May 26, 2014, 03:25:17 pm
The NRA has also said they support background checks; guess what happens whenever people try to enforce them or enact them?

If you want the government to enforce something, you have to actually let the government make efforts to enforce it. It's like how the Right will often say "Look at how many taxes we have? We don't need to raise taxes; why can't we just enforce what we already have on the books!?" and then quietly work to undermine any effort to hire more people in the IRS so people can actually do just that. It's garbage. It's lies. If you want people to enforce the gun control laws already in effect in a harder fashion you need to hire more people (and hire the right people) to do so. If a bill was brought up specifically for that purpose it would get voted down as well.
46  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Tumblr Leftism vs. MRAs on: May 26, 2014, 12:14:27 pm
47  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ontario election, Spring 2014? on: May 25, 2014, 04:37:39 pm

This is just sad.
48  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Political Correctness on: May 25, 2014, 04:31:49 am
I don't disagree on "your house, your rules" even if I personally think it's completely stupid, though if that's what the response to any example of over-sensitivity is then this conversation was never destined to go anywhere to begin with. I don't disagree that most people who complain about "political correctness" are just using it as an excuse to be a**holes, it's just that it doesn't mean no one is ever being over-sensitive, anywhere, ever, or that people don't have occasionally disproportionate reaction to things. (Such as getting people fired over dumb word choices, or, hell, even just being intentionally offensive.)

"Maybe in ten years you'll be wrong" really is a weird response and kind of a conversation-ender, though, so I'm not sure where to even go at this point.

I guess all that I can say is that I just have a problem in general with people telling others they're not allowed to have an opinion (this happens a lot in conversations in particular about gender, race, and sex), or they're not allowed to use certain words to express themselves. I don't come from a place of deep insecurity about these things; if a straight guy wants to level an opinion about the rights and quality of life of gay dudes, he should be allowed to do so. I'll just critique the idea if he wrong about it. The same should go for issues about women or ethnic minorities. Anyone should be allowed to talk about it. If they're wrong or approaching the conversation in a hurtful way that's when you be animated about it.

Like, you talk about how language evolves, how society's standards about how language is used evolves. You're right, which is why when people talk about how World 4 of Demon's Souls is "lame" they're not thinking of people who are crippled and can't walk. These words have evolved colloquially to mean completely different things in modern conversation.

Words like "crazy" have had their definitions stretched so broadly that they can mean completely different things as descriptors depending on their context, but the context is what should matter more than the word itself if you're going to be offended by something. A friend who jokingly calls me "fag" will get me to chuckle, a person on the street who lobs that word at me from afar would make me offended. But if I approached these things by saying "fag is an inherently offensive word with no potential positive use whatsoever, I hereby ban it and will lecture anyone who uses it, regardless!" I am charging that word with rebellious connotations and accomplishing nothing except finding a way to be offended for the rest of my life. Instead of just allowing the negative connotations of that word (or any other) to fade with time, I'm pretty much actively helping people who would seek to use the word to offend.

That's sort of always the irony with the Social Justice-ing going on these days. It's often super self-defeating. By insisting on the strict and well-advertised offensiveness of the words, you're preventing the offensiveness of the word from gradually losing its meaning with time as has happened with so many other words.
49  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gunman near UCSB kills 6 people, injures 7 on: May 24, 2014, 10:49:02 pm
it is okay guys, it isn't as if rape culture exists or anything...

This has to stop.

Not only is it a stupid and cheap point to keep trying to make and doesn't lead to any engaging discussion, it doesn't matter in practical terms whether "rape culture" actually exists or not, and actively makes it harder to raise awareness about sexual assault and stop actual rapists.

The Rape Abuse Incest National Network is the largest organization in the country dedicated to stomping out sexual assault and lending support to victims, and in a recent 16-page report to the White House about what the government and other organizations around the country can do to reduce sexual assault and bring rapists to justice actively discouraged use of this stupid f**king term. Why? Because it doesn't help accomplish anything and in fact does the exact opposite.

Quote from: RAINN.org
In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming “rape culture” for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campuses. While it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem, it is important to not lose sight of a simple fact: Rape is caused not by cultural factors but by the conscious decisions, of a small percentage of the community, to commit a violent crime.
 
While that may seem an obvious point, it has tended to get lost in recent debates. This has led to an inclination to focus on particular segments of the student population (e.g., athletes), particular aspects of campus culture (e.g., the Greek system), or traits that are common in many millions of law-abiding Americans (e.g., “masculinity”), rather than on the subpopulation at fault: those who choose to commit rape. This trend has the paradoxical effect of making it harder to stop sexual violence, since it removes the focus from the individual at fault, and seemingly mitigates personal responsibility for his or her own actions.
 
By the time they reach college, most students have been exposed to 18 years of prevention messages, in one form or another. Thanks to repeated messages from parents, religious leaders, teachers, coaches, the media and, yes, the culture at large, the overwhelming majority of these young adults have learned right from wrong, and enter college knowing that rape falls squarely in the latter category.
 
Research supports the view that to focus solely on certain social groups or “types” of students in the effort to end campus sexual violence is a mistake. Dr. David Lisak estimates that three percent of college men are responsible for more than 90% of rapes.

Other studies suggest that between 3-7% of college men have committed an act of sexual violence or would consider doing so. It is this relatively small percentage of the population, which has proven itself immune to years of prevention messages, that we must address in other ways. (Unfortunately, we are not aware of reliable research on female college perpetrators.)    
 
Consider, as well, the findings of another study by Dr. Lisak and colleagues, which surveyed 1,882 male college students and determined that 120 of them were rapists. Of those determined to be rapists, the majority — 63% — were repeat offenders who admitted to committing multiple sexual assaults. Overall, they found that each offender committed an average of 5.8 sexual assaults. Again, this research supports the fact that more than 90% of college-age males do not, and are unlikely to ever, rape. In fact, we have found that they’re ready and eager to be engaged on these issues. It’s the other guys (and, sometimes, women) who are the problem.

By obsessively and snarkily beating the term "rape culture" over people's heads, you are blaming and shaming innocent men (and women) who are more likely than not to be receptive to sexual assault prevention messages, and turning communities against you in the process because of the insistence on placing blame on nebulous entities instead of the actual perpetrators of sexual crimes.
50  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Does the 'liberal elite' exist and if so, who are they? on: May 24, 2014, 08:56:25 pm
Silicon Valley

Agreed.  The treatment of the homeless and poors in that area by so called "liberals" is perverse. 
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