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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: UPDATE: CBO report on Senate bill: 22 million more uninsured by 2026 on: Today at 03:27:37 pm
Liberals, don't you realize Trump is winning
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump approval ratings thread 1.1 on: Today at 01:04:25 pm
Healthcare bill in the news -> Trump slump
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread on: June 24, 2017, 08:40:53 pm
I merged a couple of threads about Ossoff's candidacy and funding into this main GA-06 thread. --Mod
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump approval ratings thread 1.1 on: June 23, 2017, 01:50:30 pm
And I guess there could be a "minihoneymoon" from the Republicans running away with the nationaled  special election.

This is plausible to me.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread on: June 20, 2017, 09:15:28 pm
Ossoff is going to end up with almost the exactly % he got back in April. That by itself is amazing.

The original, long-buried take on this election that he had to win the first round because the Rs would rally together and beat him in a 1:1 turned out to be right.
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread on: June 20, 2017, 09:14:22 pm
I mean, Trump just gets stronger and stronger

Um, no. Really, no.
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread on: June 20, 2017, 09:02:35 pm
I'm glad I mourned this one over the weekend when it looked like Rs were going to show up for Handel.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread on: June 20, 2017, 08:21:19 pm
Politico doesn't have a "model," they are straight up comparing results of completed precincts with April results. The flaw there is, I presume, new data from precincts where Handel isn't running behind April Rs.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread on: June 20, 2017, 07:20:22 pm
Should Perez be fired after this? Spending this much on a congressional race and losing is embarrassing.

How much did he steer the firehouse of money? I thought it was spontaneous.
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread on: June 20, 2017, 07:03:57 pm
Well, that doesn't suck, even if it's artificial.
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread on: June 20, 2017, 06:56:02 pm
Handel showed up at her victory party, so clearly she's optimistic.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-6 Special election discussion thread on: June 19, 2017, 06:24:20 pm
Any additional posts that are off-topic for GA-6 will get deleted immediately. Thank you.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: NV-SEN: Rosen in on: June 19, 2017, 06:20:30 pm
That's...unusual, to say the least. I can't really say I see the logic behind this one. I mean, she's a better candidate than Titus in the sense that she's younger and a newer name, but Rick Berg has already demonstrated that running freshman representatives for high-stakes Senate seats is a risky business.

Tom Cotton provides a counterexample, though. National environment matters.
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-6 Special election discussion thread on: June 19, 2017, 06:19:02 pm
We're getting off-track. Let's stick to GA-6 discussion, please.
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: NV-SEN: Rosen in on: June 19, 2017, 06:14:18 pm
Also, @Brittain: she probably figured it might be better to go for a light blue Senate seat rather than defend a light red House seat every two years.

Yes, I agree. Doing the math on that it's not certain when the next voter turnout slump hits her district but surely she faces an election sometime when her base forgets to show up.
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-6 Special election discussion thread on: June 19, 2017, 06:11:06 pm

Trump won it by 1%. Comparing it to Price's numbers who was a popular incumbent running against a 'some dude' token opposition is fallacious.

The only thing that tomorrow will show regardless of who wins is that public opinions have not changed in any meaningful way since the election.

This goes on the assumption that Handel is as flawed and toxic a candidate for Congress as Trump was for President in this district, no?

Trump still won the election, did he not?  He obviously wasn't that toxic.

I was talking in the context of this district and its voting history.
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: NV-SEN: Rosen in on: June 19, 2017, 06:07:10 pm
She must have seen some very promising polling to give up a House seat she could easily defend in 2018. Certainly what's been released publicly is encouraging for a Dem to challenge Heller.

Does having an announced challenger make Heller go wobbly on repealing ACA? 
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-6 Special election discussion thread on: June 19, 2017, 06:04:46 pm

Trump won it by 1%. Comparing it to Price's numbers who was a popular incumbent running against a 'some dude' token opposition is fallacious.

The only thing that tomorrow will show regardless of who wins is that public opinions have not changed in any meaningful way since the election.

This goes on the assumption that Handel is as flawed and toxic a candidate for Congress as Trump was for President in this district, no?
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The TrumpCare comes back from the dead (...and lives!) thread on: June 19, 2017, 04:55:22 pm
I can just hear her a annoying trembling voice right now "Iii aaam oopen toooo phaaasinggg ooutt mmeeedicareee ooverrr sssevennnn yearssss".

You're aware that's a medical condition she has?
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-06 Predictions Thread (June 20) on: June 19, 2017, 04:11:14 pm
Strange how the results in the poll are a lot more lopsided than the polarized answers in the actual thread

I voted Ossoff a week ago and am now pre-grieving his loss.
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-6 Special election discussion thread on: June 19, 2017, 04:10:54 pm

But Ppolls has her in the lead

Who does? Is that the dubious CSP poll or a different one?
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-06 Predictions Thread (June 20) on: June 19, 2017, 01:15:38 pm
Handel because nothing ever goes my way.

Seeing high turnout from Republicans and my gut is swinging me from 52%-48% Ossoff toward this point of view.
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-6 Special election discussion thread on: June 19, 2017, 09:30:50 am
^ What trash.

I'm concerned as a Dem that while his gloating is trashy, the core of it may be accurate, and this could make the difference for Handel.
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-6 Special election discussion thread on: June 19, 2017, 08:15:50 am
A Republican party chair thinks that Scalise's shooting will give Handel the edge in the race.

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Some Republicans see political upside in the tragedy. Brad Carver is chairman of the Republican Party in the neighboring 11th Congressional District, which is represented by Barry Loudermilk, a member of the GOP baseball squad who was on the scene during last Wednesday’s shooting.

“I’ll tell you what: I think the shooting is going to win this election for us,” Carver said Saturday after a get-out-the-vote rally for Handel in Chamblee. “Because moderates and independents in this district are tired of left-wing extremism. I get that there’s extremists on both sides, but we are not seeing them. We’re seeing absolute resistance to everything this president does. Moderates and independents out there want to give him a chance. Democrats have never given this president a chance.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2017/06/19/daily-202-congressional-shooting-clouds-final-days-of-georgia-special-election/5946e314e9b69b2fb981dd76/
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Jenner on congressional baseball tragedy: 'Liberals can't even shoot straight' on: June 18, 2017, 01:56:11 pm
I was supportive of her publicly long after many gays had written her off, but with this, no mas.
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