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1  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Which state do you think has the biggest rural-urban divide? on: March 30, 2015, 12:57:04 pm
Maryland is pretty extreme.
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Harry Reid retires!!! on: March 30, 2015, 12:03:28 pm
Lots of successful governors don't want to become senators and it's not hard to see why not.
3  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Tompkins County, New York on: March 29, 2015, 07:24:39 am
Ithaca is very liberal, and it's not just students.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pence signed it: Add Indiana to the list of states with "religious freedom" laws on: March 28, 2015, 07:17:24 am
Ernest, to be clear, when Martin Luther King, Jr. advocated for anti-discrimination laws, you apply the same logic to him? He should have known better than to have the government force public accommodations to take down their whites only signs, because that was equivalent to discrimination itself?
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pence signed it: Add Indiana to the list of states with "religious freedom" laws on: March 28, 2015, 06:50:29 am

I realize that the National Report isn't as (in)famous as The Onion, but you do realize that was a satirical piece, not a real piece of journalism, right?

No, I had absolutely no idea.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pence signed it: Add Indiana to the list of states with "religious freedom" laws on: March 28, 2015, 06:44:12 am
I think part of the law should function to create social limits, what is and is not acceptable behavior.
Which is what led to Jim Crow Laws, Prohibition, Blue Laws, just to mention a few of the things from our own past let alone foreign travesties like the Nuremberg laws.  The creation of social limits is not something that should be a goal of the law, tho it sometimes is a side effect.

You're absolutely right, a law protecting gays from discrimination is exactly like a law empowering the state to discriminate against or criminalize gays. It's remarkable that more of us whiny gays don't see this clearly.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pence signed it: Add Indiana to the list of states with "religious freedom" laws on: March 28, 2015, 06:39:37 am
The ink is barely dry on the law...

http://nationalreport.net/marcus-bachmann-refused-service-indiana-store-owner-assumed-gay/
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pence signed it: Add Indiana to the list of states with "religious freedom" laws on: March 28, 2015, 06:37:26 am
I've see variations on this argument on the Internet for 20 years. Trust me, people like Ernest and Shua are not going to change their minds on this or come around on the Indiana law.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Harry Reid retires!!! on: March 27, 2015, 10:49:42 am
Remember how godawful the 2010 campaign was to follow?

I'll miss Reid's ability to prevent any viable Republican from running against him, but hopefully another Democrat will have an easier time getting elected than he has.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pence signed it: Add Indiana to the list of states with "religious freedom" laws on: March 27, 2015, 07:37:43 am
It is my sincere religious belief that I need to go around poking strangers in the eye.
11  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Mid-2014 county population estimates out tomorrow, March 26 on: March 27, 2015, 07:34:34 am
Loving County, Texas population crashes 17% from 2013 after booming 24% the year before.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: How does the NH State House Work? on: March 23, 2015, 08:01:48 am
I read in the Globe this weekend that Boston had a ward-based city council until an African-American candidate won the seat representing Roxbury in the 1950s, so they refused to seat him and immediately changed to at-large seats to keep the council all white. That didn't change until the 1970s.
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Black Man Found Hanging from Tree in Mississippi on: March 20, 2015, 03:31:44 pm
Black people hanging from trees is cause for alarm.

Agreed.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Black Man Found Hanging from Tree in Mississippi on: March 20, 2015, 11:21:04 am
No one knows what happened here yet. We know there are two options and both should be explored, but we don't know what happened.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Realistically, how does the GOP or Dem Party hope to secure young voters? on: March 17, 2015, 01:10:12 pm

Literally every republican in existence cares about the deficit, along with a number of conservative democrats and some independents. (Fact).

"Reagan proved that deficits don't matter." --Dick Cheney, Republican
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: IL-10: Schneider expected to announce this month on: March 13, 2015, 07:58:51 am
lol, this seat's basically the new IN-8.

I feel like we're going to see several of these kinds of seats given how our electorates work.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How much attention would Graham's sexuality receive during the general? on: March 12, 2015, 10:48:53 am
How can you say it with confidence about anyone, by that standard?

Based on whether they are married to a woman, whether they have had biological children, whether their marriage is known to be affectionate and passionate (which can be demonstrated many ways outside the bedroom); if they are single, whether they have had relationships with women, and the women aren't notorious for being beards for closeted gay men.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How much attention would Graham's sexuality receive during the general? on: March 11, 2015, 09:44:16 am
He's almost certainly not gay, though, in the sense that he is not sleeping with men, and has not at least since he entered public life.

How can you say that with any confidence? Plenty of men do so without ever being exposed. We can say neither that he almost certainly is sleeping with men or isn't. I resent the idea that it's a slur or insult to say he may be.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Under Rick Scott, Florida officials can't use the term "climate change" on: March 11, 2015, 08:25:46 am
Miami is in deep trouble no matter how many Dutch consultants they hire. The ground it is built on is porous and a rising water table will flood the city even if they somehow built a barrier against the sea.
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What is your favorite GOP majority accomplishment? on: March 11, 2015, 08:23:01 am
Can we count the letter to Iran as an accomplishment, or does it not qualify because only 47 senators signed it?
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: OH-Sen: Portman tied with Strickland; crushing Sittenfeld on: March 08, 2015, 09:26:27 am
Am I crazy, or isn't this poll a very big deal? Yes, Strickland is known statewide. That alone wouldn't make him tied with an inoffensive Republican incumbent who won in a landslide last time. No, same sex marriage would not account for this.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AL Supreme Court orders probate judges not to license same sex marriages on: March 08, 2015, 09:22:57 am
The people pushing gay marriage have made perfectly clear they do not consider a civil union good enough. So whether or not they function well is actually a red herring.

Um WHAT?! One compelling reason a civil union is not good enough is because it doesn't function well! No one knew this in 2000 when Vermont introduced them, but evidence piled up quickly after that. You can't ignore that because you prefer to argue with a different argument. Both apply.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AL Supreme Court orders probate judges not to license same sex marriages on: March 07, 2015, 06:53:31 pm
2% is a weirdly low estimate for how many gay people there are. It also conveniently ignores the existence of transgender people who have weirdness going on with the legal status of their gender (which is, admittedly, a smaller percentage), and the existence of bisexuals who want more than a capricious and unpredictable chance of being able to marry who they end up wanting to (which may actually be a larger percentage). It's also completely irrelevant.

Why is it irrelevant? If members of a tiny group get to change ancient laws on marriage merely because they claim discrimination, then members of other groups can change long-standing uncontroversial gender related laws as well.

The reason same sex marriage has become legal is because this "tiny group" amounted to hundreds of thousands of couples raising children, and millions without children, who were public and part of our culture and whose struggles and suffering at the hand of current law was not abstract but a real cost falling hardest on children. Read the court cases. The courts were actually following the culture, not creating it.

2% is slightly larger than the population of the U.S. that is Jewish, by the way. What constitutional rights would you take away from Jews for not measuring up?
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AL Supreme Court orders probate judges not to license same sex marriages on: March 07, 2015, 06:50:27 pm
I just want to clarify that I'd be fine with having civil unions as a solution, but when you push to redefine a gender-specific institution like marriage it's going to lead to have a lot of unfortunate implications. Separate but equal has been vilified over the years but it is a lot more nuanced than its critics let on.

Yeah, that was a defensible position for the right 10 years ago, but now it comes across as desperation because you recognize certain defeat on the terms of marriage.

So again, if you think that inherent gender qualifications are illegal on marriage, why do you support them on public restrooms? If you think that a separate but equal solution stigmatizes all gays as sick freaks, why do you find the bathroom restrictions not stigmatizing all men as perverts and all women as fragile little girls?

Basically because the separation of bathrooms doesn't end up denying anyone access to the full benefits of a public restroom, while civil unions or marriage bans do deny gay people the rights of marriage. Even when civil unions says they are equivalent to marriage, inevitably they aren't because millions of minor state and local government officials and public servants get confused or stubborn and don't acknowledge civil unions (see NJ's experience).
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Politicians that you disagree with but can tell are good PEOPLE and mean well on: March 07, 2015, 01:52:14 pm
George W. Bush. I'm absolutely not joking.
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