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26  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-6 Special election discussion thread on: June 17, 2017, 12:25:02 pm
The Obama-Clinton discussion belongs on another thread, guys. I don't want to have to delete posts on it. Thank you.
27  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Death threats, rape threats pouring into "Shakespeare" companies and theaters on: June 17, 2017, 09:31:04 am
People outraged at a presentation of Julius Caesar with a Trump stand-in in NYC are now calling in vicious death threats and rape threats to companies with "Shakespeare" in the name—theaters or otherwise.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/style/2017/06/16/knives-are-out-for-theaters-that-bear-name-shakespeare/BjIuTepxxULJHZvTAQmF6H/story.html?event=event25

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“Your play depicting the murder of our President is nothing but pure hatred,” read one of the tamer ones.

“[H]ope you all who did this play about Trump are the first do [sic] die when ISIS COMES TO YOU [expletive] sumbags [sic],” read another.

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But the e-mails went to the wrong place — Shakespeare & Company in Lenox, Mass., one of several Shakespeare companies around the country that have been inundated with a flood of venomous e-mails, phone messages, and social media posts condemning them for the Central Park production.
   
The Lenox company has received roughly 40 such messages, including one that wished the theater “the worst possible life you could have and hope you all get sick and die.” At Shakespeare Dallas, executive and artistic director Raphael Parry says his company has received about 80 messages, including threats of rape, death, and wishes that the theater’s staff is “sent to ISIS to be killed with real knives.”

28  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: TX governor signs bill allowing providers to deny LGBTQ youth child welfare on: June 17, 2017, 08:40:07 am
I love that the defense of this bill is "no one will actually use it" or "if you read it carefully, it doesn't allow anyone to do anything different," as if it isn't actually a law that was passed to effect policy.
29  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: WaPo: Mueller now investigating whether Trump obstructed justice on: June 17, 2017, 08:37:59 am
Trump decided to fire Comey. However before going ahead and telling people his decision he decided it would be sensible to get a second opinion.

Yes, that sounds like how Trump makes decisions. He takes the time to reason things through, let his anger cool, and seek out alternative perspectives before committing to a course of action.
30  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: TX governor signs bill allowing providers to deny LGBTQ youth child welfare on: June 16, 2017, 05:36:22 pm
Lots of people want to discriminate against gays—albeit fewer than 20 or 50 years ago—and this law gives them legal cover. If you're a straight person who thinks this doesn't happen because you haven't seen it, that's fine but consider that your experience is not definitive. 
31  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: TX governor signs bill allowing providers to deny LGBTQ youth child welfare on: June 16, 2017, 05:14:52 pm
It won't happen, this is just fearmongering by people who are hellbent on fighting against an imaginary threat of a Christian Theocracy that much of the left believes is real.

32  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: State Legislature Special Election Mega Thread on: June 16, 2017, 02:32:52 pm
So on average Dems are seeing a 14 point swing in races or so, yes?

An unweighted average of all the special elections since Trumpageddon has been an 11-point swing from 2016 Presidential.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C2MVeM2K7WgqmJw5RCQbWyTo2u73CX1pI8zw_G-7BJo/edit#gid=0
33  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Why is the Mountain West so socially liberal? on: June 16, 2017, 01:37:13 pm
Low religious observance outside Mormon country.
34  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump approval ratings thread 1.1 on: June 16, 2017, 01:24:54 pm
Looks like Trump rarely dips below 45% approval in Rasmussen polls, and had him in the upper 50s at his inauguration.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jun16

He's had a very good 3 days in Rasmussen's samples.
35  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: List of post-2016 state/federal special elections & results on: June 16, 2017, 12:39:20 pm
State Legislative

TypeStateDistDateRunoff'16 Mar'16 P MarSpecial MarSwing (Avg)
HouseTN956/15/17N/AR+39R+27D+12

No D has contested this legislative seat near Memphis for 20 years. Turnout was an abysmal 9%.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/politics/elections/2017/06/16/kevin-vaughan-wins-tennessee-house-district-95-race/390263001/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C2MVeM2K7WgqmJw5RCQbWyTo2u73CX1pI8zw_G-7BJo/edit#gid=0
36  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-6 Special election discussion thread on: June 16, 2017, 10:52:40 am

A difference of 2 voters out of 537 respondents.

Early voters report 58% Ossoff - 42% Handel, which is enormous for Ossoff if true.
37  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: First Lady Rosalynn Carter on: June 15, 2017, 05:21:13 pm
I understand that she was both smart and ambitious for her husband, but masked her ambition well behind her charm, like Nancy Reagan could.
38  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NEWSWEEK: Trump tried to convince NSA chief to absolve him of Russian collision on: June 15, 2017, 03:06:27 pm
Scoop by Newsweek? Appropriate since Trump is such a throwback to 1986.
39  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: NJ-SEN: Only 31% believe Menendez deserves reelection on: June 15, 2017, 02:15:36 pm
Good thing he's running in a Trump midterm.
40  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NYT forced to correct article blaming gifford shooting on palin on: June 15, 2017, 02:13:31 pm
Please correct the subject line: the original piece was an editorial, not an article. Given that editorials aren't fact-checked and often are riddled with errors or misrepresentations, this is bad but not the same as an error in an article.
41  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Senate announces new bipartisan sanctions against Russia on: June 15, 2017, 11:12:32 am
Not to put too fine a point on it, but those improvements in literacy came along with massive famines and deportations that killed a substantial number of people in Central Asia. You can't just look at the first out of context.
42  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-6 Special election discussion thread on: June 15, 2017, 09:02:06 am
Tom Bonier did a breakdown of EV an Ossoff seems to be getting more black and female irregular voters then first round https://mobile.twitter.com/tbonier/status/875341387763519488

Can anyone explain his table?
43  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Those responsible for moving Trump between mid 30s and low 40s on: June 14, 2017, 07:55:29 pm
During the presidential campaign, these were Republicans who weren't fans of Trump and would report they didn't approve of him within the first 5-7 days after he did something truly embarrassing or hateful. After that, they forgave and forgot and came back into the fold.
44  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: WaPo: James T. Hodgkinson was shooter on: June 14, 2017, 02:31:23 pm
From an old article on Slate (2009):

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Critical: Vital signs are unstable and not within normal limits. Patient may be unconscious. Indicators are unfavorable.
45  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: WaPo: James T. Hodgkinson was shooter on: June 14, 2017, 02:15:52 pm

God, I thought it wasn't that bad. Hope he'll recover.

That's really horrible. Very unwelcome news. I hope he pulls through and has a good recovery.
46  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Liberal WaPo Analysis Writer, Deletes Heinous Tweet About Shooting on: June 14, 2017, 12:17:04 pm
srsly who cares
47  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: WaPo: James T. Hodgkinson was shooter on: June 14, 2017, 11:07:09 am
Sanders is going to make a statement about this on the floor of the Senate.

https://twitter.com/halliejackson/status/875020127527460864
48  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: WaPo: James T. Hodgkinson was shooter on: June 14, 2017, 10:29:36 am
That was also done by a Bernie supporter though...

When you have a prominent politician running around the country saying "we need a revolution" as well as other class warfare rhetoric, it is bound to be considered a call to action by some people. Not everyone agrees on what the necessary and appropriate form of action is, and you end up with things like this.

The Portland killing was done by a racist who hated Muslims and picked a fight with Muslim women on the subway. He wasn't instigating a people-powered revolution, he was attacking Muslim women and then killed their defenders with a knife. 

You can see where this is going when you go to "prominent politician running around the country..." and what kind of statements they were making in 2016 and 2017 that aligned that with assaulting Muslim women.

That said, let's focus on this attack.
49  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: WaPo: James T. Hodgkinson was shooter on: June 14, 2017, 10:26:11 am
Bernie did promise revolution. This is what happens.

If that's your view, than Trump is responsible for the stabbing in Portland.

Get out of here with that nonsense.
The guy from Portland was also a Bernie supporter so...

The guy from Portland was a mentally ill racist who made a racist attack on Muslim women on the subway that escalated into a mass killing.
50  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: WaPo: James T. Hodgkinson was shooter on: June 14, 2017, 10:19:16 am
Bernie did promise revolution. This is what happens.

Bernie has never promoted violence or armed resistance or "second amendment remedies". He has focused on mobilizing voters in elections, although he's certainly demonized his opponents to do it.
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