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26  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: LA judge upholds state SSM ban on: September 10, 2014, 05:47:26 am
The one constant tradition about marriage is that it reflects the dominant values of society at the time and changes easily and rapidly to do so.

Shua's argument could just as easily be deployed against the use of camera phones to snap pictures at weddings. Every civilization in history excluded camera phones from weddings; they would have considered you crazy to ask them if camera phones were involved in weddings. We should consider their wisdom and default to their judgment.

If you went back to the 1700s and talked about people of different religions marrying because they liked each other or found each other attractive, you would have been considered bonkers.

The good news is that with American society passing the tipping point on gay rights in around 2012, vacuous appeals to tradition will no longer have to be accorded gravitas they do not merit.
27  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: MA: 2014 Gubernatorial Democratic Primary Election Result on: September 10, 2014, 05:45:31 am
I'm pretty sure Coakley has only ever lost one election in Massachusetts. She'll win easily in November.

I would love to be sanguine about this but Massachusetts voters have been plenty willing to elect a Republican for governor. I am not confident Coakley will win; she certainly will not win by default because she's a Democrat.
28  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: SD: SUSA: Rounds +11, Weiland, Pressler nearly tie on: September 10, 2014, 05:40:51 am
What has Rounds done to lose any Republicans?
29  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: NC-Sen: Hagan/DSCC internal has Hagan up 3. on: September 10, 2014, 05:39:59 am
There's going to be an Opinion of Fusionmunster thread up within 2 days.
30  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: KS-Sen: Taylor drops out on: September 09, 2014, 12:30:27 pm
Inks, in this case "Any person who has been nominated by any means for any national, state, county or township office who declares that they are incapable of fulfilling the duties of office if elected" plays the same role as "A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, being the best security of a free State" in the second amendment. What's your take on that clause?
31  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Fracking Spurs Rust Belt Revival on: September 09, 2014, 10:49:02 am
Manufacturing is coming back because American labor is so much cheaper now.

Partly that, partly that transportation has gotten more expensive, the time cost of transportation has risen, and labor in China has gotten more expensive.
32  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Republicans' Senate ceiling in 2014? on: September 07, 2014, 01:56:16 pm
Brown yes, but hasn't Land been an absolute fiasco as a candidate?
33  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVI: Sidejackin' it in the Train Room. on: September 06, 2014, 06:53:55 pm
Surely there are other places than Wal-mart to buy groceries. Your beloved Braum's, for example. Heck, a cursory Google search shows there's even a Whole Foods in Tulsa. (Are there really enough liberal upper-middle class white people in Tulsa to support one of those?) Where in the city do you live? The downtown area (which appears to be one square mile ringed by interstates) seems decent, but wow is the suburban sprawl endless.

Whoa, welcome back.
34  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who was President when your parents were born? on: September 06, 2014, 02:00:36 pm
Whose parents were born during Ford or Carter?!
35  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Forum County Map on: September 06, 2014, 01:58:45 pm
Middlesex, MA
36  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Forum House District Map on: September 06, 2014, 07:39:53 am
MA-7
37  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: President Obama’s America is a passive, confused and ineffective superpower on: September 06, 2014, 07:25:46 am
Hmm, this seems somewhat relevant to this post.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/08/the-kremlins-troll-army/375932/

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A June article by Max Seddon of BuzzFeed reported the Kremlin was spending millions of dollars to pay English-speaking Russians to promote President Vladimir Putin and his policies in U.S. media like Fox News broadcasting and The Huffington Post and Politico news sites. Trolls are reportedly expected to manage multiple fake accounts and post on news articles 50 times a day, often with sentiments as simplistic as "Putin makes Obama look stupid and weak!"
38  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 House Election Polls / Re: Emerson-MA-6: Tisei leads Tierney, trails Moulton on: September 05, 2014, 10:43:34 am
Moulton got the endorsement of the Boston Globe.
39  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: In competitive Senate races, GOP leads by 16 on: September 05, 2014, 10:42:36 am
From their top Google link: "The Tarrance Group is one of the most widely respected and successful Republican strategic research and polling firms in the nation."
40  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: President Obama’s America is a passive, confused and ineffective superpower on: September 05, 2014, 10:41:21 am
It's hard to take a neoconservative critique of Obama's foreign policy seriously after the utter fiascoes that resulted from what they consider a "strong, resolute" foreign policy. It's all well and good to speculate that Obama makes America weaker and puts Americans in danger, but hard to credit that speculation against the actual body count of the 2000s that continues to this day.
41  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GOP underperforming in 2014? on: September 05, 2014, 10:38:52 am
Exactly. The Senate map this year and House map this decade are so good for Republicans that even regression to the mean would represent several Dem seats falling into their hands. 2010, this isn't.
42  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: McDonnells found guilty on: September 05, 2014, 05:51:35 am
What did it do to his hair? He stopped coloring it. You can tell in the second picture, that's a dye job.
43  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Deval Patrick says 'maybe' to a Pres. run on: September 04, 2014, 08:51:18 pm
The Democratic Party is going to be so excited at the prospect of another Massachusetts nominee.

This is not going to happen. Patrick would be happy with a Cabinet appointment, I'm sure.
44  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: LA judge upholds state SSM ban on: September 04, 2014, 03:16:04 pm
Call me a pessimist, but SCOTUS isn't going to rule in our favor here. This is an extremely partisan, activist  court that will rule yet again based on the GOP platform: that there's no constitutional right to marriage and gay marriage becomes illegal again in California, Iowa, Massachusetts, and all the other states who had their bans struck down.

Republicans would be happy to surrender on this issue and stop talking about it ASAP.

Maybe in Massachusetts, but certainly not in most of the states that usually vote Republican.

Yes, I'm sure the electorate isn't there yet, especially not in states where their view is still the majority. But I do think that a lot of elected officials who, to be honest, don't like gays but really don't care that much about this issue, have clammed up about "traditional marriage."
45  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: LA judge upholds state SSM ban on: September 04, 2014, 12:44:11 pm
Call me a pessimist, but SCOTUS isn't going to rule in our favor here. This is an extremely partisan, activist  court that will rule yet again based on the GOP platform: that there's no constitutional right to marriage and gay marriage becomes illegal again in California, Iowa, Massachusetts, and all the other states who had their bans struck down.

Republicans would be happy to surrender on this issue and stop talking about it ASAP.
46  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Religious cleric calls for non-believers to convert or be killed on: September 04, 2014, 10:10:55 am
If it were practicable then sending a few missionaries over to the 'Islamic State' wouldn't be such a bad idea. Unfortunately, under present circumstances it would probably be bad for their health Tongue.

A lot of the people traveling to join ISIS from western Europe are converts from Christianity (nominal or otherwise), actually.
47  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVI: Sidejackin' it in the Train Room. on: September 04, 2014, 09:56:57 am
It's all in his mentality.  Over the years, we've seen Bushie regress, rather than progress.  His job and CAD attendance (excluding the current job) got worse over time.  His ability to cook got worse over time.  His health got worse over time.  Now, he claims that these things have changed, and for the moment, it looks like they have; however, he needs to actually realize his past mistakes and be conscious of his tendency to regress, otherwise his good habits will slowly fade away, and he'll go back to a period of regressing.

I hear you. I think all of us (including Jeff) agree that his decisionmaking processes haven't been good in the past, and that he continues to struggle in areas like how he's eating.

You and I both want what's best for Jeff. One tactic is to keep pointing to past decisions and discussing why they were bad. The problem with that is, that's what we've ALL been doing the last 7 years of Update, and it's not the right key for this lock. Jeff knows where he's made mistakes, we've established that. The challenge has been getting into good behaviors.

And now for the first time in a long time Jeff's been unequivocally successful in one area and has been doing everything people suggested. He's got a job appropriate for his skills and temperament, and he's getting up and going to work every single day. To support Jeff, we need to recognize his success here as a foundation for greater change. The key to making good decisions isn't just knowing what you're doing wrong. It's to feel good about yourself—for solid reasons—and to feel in control of your life.
48  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVI: Sidejackin' it in the Train Room. on: September 03, 2014, 09:27:45 pm
Again, why am I being attacked for something that happened 6 years ago?

Because you seem to be justifying it or thinking that it wasn't that bad of a decision.

Inks, what is your opinion of Jeff's current job and how he's doing?

That seems more relevant to his future success than whether he's properly atoning for bad decisions in the distant past to strangers on a web forum.
49  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of cinyc on: September 03, 2014, 07:32:12 pm
He's fine, and he's right that random Republican comments get the same treatment.
50  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: 538 Model Debut: 64% Chance of Republican Majority; R+7 Most Likely on: September 03, 2014, 02:30:52 pm
Alaska could very easily slip through the same small-state hole in Silver's model that Montana and North Dakota fell through last time.
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