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15876  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Sarkozy = Idiot on: June 23, 2009, 02:03:38 pm
Neoconservatives have always loved freedom Roll Eyes
15877  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Sarkozy = Idiot on: June 23, 2009, 01:57:26 pm
I understand the sentiment...but it's a terrible idea.
15878  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Atlasian Sentinel: Lief/Bacon King Elected on: June 23, 2009, 12:14:30 pm
In Franzl's count, he did. However, the SOFA, who is more familiar with election laws and thus better qualified to determine which votes are valid and which aren't, and his results showed Lief winning. We apologize for the error.

I posted a warning saying that my count included certain disputed votes! Wink
15879  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: FRANZL ELECTION TRACKER (FINAL RESULTS) on: June 23, 2009, 10:55:26 am
Well, that's too bad. More people wanted PiT to become President, but because of a few legal issues, some of his votes will be invalid. Atlasia, spoke and they wanted PiT as President.

Do you understand the concept of electoral law?
15880  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: GERMAN CHANCELLORS Survivor - Round Thirteen - HELP US BREAK A TIE ! on: June 23, 2009, 10:43:50 am
I'll say Cuno.
15881  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: SurveyUSA June Governor Approvals on: June 23, 2009, 04:08:52 am
I'd really like to see some new numbers on Quinn. I don't know quite how popular he has remained or will remain in the budget crisis.
15882  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Where the hell is Obama? on: June 23, 2009, 03:02:01 am
We have an Iranian uprising, North Korea arming for a potential missile launch on the U.S....and Obama is nowhere to be seen.

Not every president is quite as stupid as Dubya.
15883  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Fair Interest Rates Bill (Amendment at Vote) on: June 22, 2009, 11:40:42 pm
I change my vote to AYE just to get things moving. I don't really want this to sit for a week.

However, I will now work to either change this bill considerably or prevent its passage entirely.
15884  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Ordinance of Rebellion on: June 22, 2009, 11:35:15 pm
Why does there always have to be rebellion?

Let's just enjoy what we have....and wait to see who was elected President Wink


I did support the idea of a new constitution at one point, but I've gradually come to the conclusion that we should just keep what we have with a couple of changes that can be accepted from all sides. This is supposed to be a democracy, after all.
15885  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: country you would rather live in (semifinals) on: June 22, 2009, 04:56:43 pm
USA, NZ
15886  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: PA Senator allowing gay people to exist on: June 22, 2009, 04:38:02 pm
Why is this even an issue?

Let's just offer everybody civil unions and abolish marriage so we can stop this nonsense.
15887  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: A Call for Revolution in Iran on: June 22, 2009, 04:15:04 pm
you're not by any chance drunk, are you?
15888  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Atlasian Sentinel Poll: Approval of Bgwah's Second Term on: June 22, 2009, 03:05:49 pm
Yawn, aside from Franzl, all of these naysayers have been my enemies at one point or another. Purple State is just a jerk, Jas is still pissed that he got destroyed by Phil, and Xahar, heh...

Face reality, bitches. I've been a successful President.

Nothing personal bgwah...I have nothing against you.
15889  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of afleitch on: June 22, 2009, 03:02:05 pm
huge FF, one of my favorite Atlasians.
15890  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Atlasian Sentinel: June 22, 2009 on: June 22, 2009, 02:06:02 pm
Vepres, first of all, this paper is excellent. Keep up the good work. Smiley

How do you think all of these controversial votes should be resolved, and who do you think should, and will become the next President?

Personally, I think some in the JCP are trying to win through a technicality, and that PiT won. However, what matters is the legal opinion of the justices, should it get that far. Whatever they decide, the Sentinel will support (however, I personally may not). In the end, I think PiT will win, but we'll have to see.

Electoral laws are not technicalities.

Nobody doubted their registration until the election turned out to be close.
Ditto
I also question if the same people would be fighting this hard for those votes not to count if the questionable votes had been for Leif, not PiT.

I voted for PiT...and I am challenging the votes.
And you are just about the only one, too.


Wrong. I would also be willing to challenge these votes.
^See bold^
What I'm saying, is that the one of the main reasons most of these "challengers" are challenging these votes is because they don't want PiT to win. Would they have challenged the votes if the votes were for Leif? Who knows, but I'm sure the chances would be a lot lower.

It doesn't matter why people want to challenge votes. If anyone has reason to believe that a vote was cast illegally...then I'd say it's their duty to challenge.
15891  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Atlasian Sentinel: June 22, 2009 on: June 22, 2009, 02:01:35 pm
Vepres, first of all, this paper is excellent. Keep up the good work. Smiley

How do you think all of these controversial votes should be resolved, and who do you think should, and will become the next President?

Personally, I think some in the JCP are trying to win through a technicality, and that PiT won. However, what matters is the legal opinion of the justices, should it get that far. Whatever they decide, the Sentinel will support (however, I personally may not). In the end, I think PiT will win, but we'll have to see.

Electoral laws are not technicalities.

Nobody doubted their registration until the election turned out to be close.
Ditto
I also question if the same people would be fighting this hard for those votes not to count if the questionable votes had been for Leif, not PiT.

I voted for PiT...and I am challenging the votes.
And you are just about the only one, too.


Wrong. I would also be willing to challenge these votes.
15892  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Lindsey Graham on: June 22, 2009, 01:58:33 pm
HP, of course.
15893  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Atlasian Sentinel: June 22, 2009 on: June 22, 2009, 01:51:31 pm
Who cares what motives are driving people to seek invalidation? We're talking about laws here...not simply preferences.
15894  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding poster's PM score on: June 22, 2009, 11:32:33 am
Social is pretty bad.
15895  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Atlasian Sentinel Poll: Approval of Bgwah's Second Term on: June 22, 2009, 11:18:21 am
somewhat disapprove
15896  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: FRANZL ELECTION TRACKER (FINAL RESULTS) on: June 22, 2009, 11:16:19 am
Here's where the situation get's sucky.
Let's say, all the controversial votes are counted invalid. Leif would become President, but here's my issue. More Atlasians wanted PiT to be President. That's a fact, if you look at the totals, adding all invalid booths. And both sides had several un-educated Atlasians voting for them, so that card shouldn't be played by either side.

Tough for us.
15897  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What state would you rather live in: Round 2 on: June 22, 2009, 08:23:58 am
Maine or Illinois
Minnesota or Massachusetts
South Dakota or Pennsylvania
Washington or Wisconsin
California or Oregon
Colorado or Utah
New Hampshire or Iowa
Delaware or Virginia
Louisiana or North Carolina
Vermont or Florida
Maryland or Connecticut
North Dakota or Nevada
New York or New Jersey
15898  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: FRANZL ELECTION TRACKER (FINAL RESULTS) on: June 22, 2009, 08:20:31 am
ok...so I assume....in the event that Barnes and ElectoralJew are declared invalid in the presidential race....that Lief then leads in the first count by one vote. I was always under the impression that DC United's vote would then cause a tie in the 2nd count....thereby leading to a run-off. Does the number of first preferences, in fact, determine who wins in a tie?
15899  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: FRANZL ELECTION TRACKER (FINAL RESULTS) on: June 22, 2009, 08:10:10 am
So how many disputed votes are there?

ElectoralJew, JewishConservative, Barnes....

is that it?
15900  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding poster's PM score on: June 22, 2009, 06:59:27 am
too economically left-wing....but the social score is actually pretty good (goes to show you how the PM can be wrong Wink)
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