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15876  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: should Al Franken receive back pay? on: July 03, 2009, 06:25:38 pm
But alright...I don't want to argue about Florida in 2000.

What leads you to believe that the case in which the Republican won was legitimate, but where the liberal Democrat wins it's a "selection"?

They applied different standards in different counties for counting or throwing out ballots, there was no uniformity, so hence, there was some voter disenfranchisement.

says the Coleman campaign
15877  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: should Al Franken receive back pay? on: July 03, 2009, 05:57:32 pm
But alright...I don't want to argue about Florida in 2000.

What leads you to believe that the case in which the Republican won was legitimate, but where the liberal Democrat wins it's a "selection"?
15878  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: should Al Franken receive back pay? on: July 03, 2009, 05:55:53 pm
Selected, not elected.

Now, I disagree with your opinion on the Minnesota Senate election, but do you feel this way about Bush in 2000 as well?

I feel they should have recounted all of the ballots.

But didn't the news agencies do that anyway and showed Bush won?

Only using very specific conditions. A full statewide recount would have changed the winner most likely.

And even then we're only talking about the ballots that were cast. They didn't really reflect the will of the electorate.
15879  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Are we ever going to get county data for past elections? on: July 03, 2009, 05:22:10 pm
Is this site ever going to input information on county results for elections prior to 2000?

2000? Do you mean 1960?
15880  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What do you like about the preceding poster? on: July 03, 2009, 03:33:05 pm
He's German Smiley
15881  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Northeast Senator Hashemite on: July 03, 2009, 01:55:07 pm
Congratulations Mr. Senator, welcome!
15882  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: PPT Declarations Thread on: July 03, 2009, 01:38:53 pm
Yes, I obviously agree. I look forward to enjoying another session with Jedi as PPT.
15883  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: filibusters? on: July 03, 2009, 11:52:07 am
Very unlikely...since when do the Democrats vote together on everything?

That's nonsense.
15884  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: filibusters? on: July 03, 2009, 11:41:15 am
Where did you get that idea?
15885  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: should Al Franken receive back pay? on: July 03, 2009, 10:22:50 am
Selected, not elected.

Now, I disagree with your opinion on the Minnesota Senate election, but do you feel this way about Bush in 2000 as well?

Of course not silly!

Bush was a good Republican.

Franken is an eeeeevil librul!!!

Oops, you're right, silly Franzl didn't think of that.
15886  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What do you like about the preceding poster? on: July 03, 2009, 10:20:12 am
He's a happy warrior, and a good friend Smiley
15887  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: should Al Franken receive back pay? on: July 03, 2009, 10:07:39 am
Selected, not elected.

Now, I disagree with your opinion on the Minnesota Senate election, but do you feel this way about Bush in 2000 as well?
15888  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: GERMAN CHANCELLORS SURVIVOR- Round 21- come & vote: just Weimar + Modern left ! on: July 03, 2009, 10:05:14 am
Scheel I guess Smiley

For the simple reason that he was never chancellor.
15889  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: GERMAN CHANCELLORS SURVIVOR- Round 19- come & vote: just Weimar + Modern left ! on: July 03, 2009, 08:29:31 am
but in fact ruined his country and destroyed all the Middle East.

Please explain.
15890  Election Archive / 2010 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: PPP OK: GOP post big leads on: July 03, 2009, 08:27:31 am
That wouldn't make that much difference.  Oklahoma has largely moved past the racial tensions of the 50s and 60s. 

15891  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which of the following should be banned in video games? on: July 03, 2009, 05:58:51 am
^^, agree with deadman.
15892  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: GERMAN CHANCELLORS SURVIVOR- Round 19- come & vote: just Weimar + Modern left ! on: July 03, 2009, 05:49:23 am
Kohl

No, I hated his hugely opportunistic behaviour (Irak war e.g.).

You just seem to forget that Chirac, Villepin, Schröder were right and that Bush, Rumsfeld, H. Clinton and Blair were wrong ( or even liars for the first two ) on Iraq. You can't honestly blame someone for having been right just because you supported those who were wrong.

Being "right" doesn't have anything to do with Schröder's opportunism.

@Franzl
He was right in the question of the Iraq war and only this is important. That he is a opportunistic politician is a other problem, but I wrote it before, you can say it about every chancellor.

By the way, Schröder's economic politics was nearly FDP politics. You must love him Cheesy

well now FDP..? Smiley

Still, I think Schröder's reforms were necessary and I do commend him for going against his party, but I have major issues with his overall character and especially his connections to Russia.

For what it's worth, I probably would have voted SPD in 2002.
15893  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: India decriminalizes homosexual sex on: July 03, 2009, 05:41:50 am
If some american religious-conservatives could pass a law that sentences to death any person who had homosexual sex, they would do it. Because they are crazy, as were the men who killed this doctor who practised abortions in Kansas.

You'd never find anywhere near a majority for that anywhere in the U.S..

That's why I used the word "if".

Well sure, you'll always find a couple of people who'll support anything, right?

Just as you'll find a considerable amount of people that voted for Le Pen in 2002.

Does that mean I should say "if some French fascists could pass a law that kills every immigrant, they would do it"?
15894  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: GERMAN CHANCELLORS SURVIVOR- Round 19- come & vote: just Weimar + Modern left ! on: July 03, 2009, 05:33:18 am
Kohl

No, I hated his hugely opportunistic behaviour (Irak war e.g.).

You just seem to forget that Chirac, Villepin, Schröder were right and that Bush, Rumsfeld, H. Clinton and Blair were wrong ( or even liars for the first two ) on Iraq. You can't honestly blame someone for having been right just because you supported those who were wrong.

Being "right" doesn't have anything to do with Schröder's opportunism.
15895  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: India decriminalizes homosexual sex on: July 03, 2009, 05:27:30 am
If some american religious-conservatives could pass a law that sentences to death any person who had homosexual sex, they would do it. Because they are crazy, as were the men who killed this doctor who practised abortions in Kansas.

No.  What in the world gives you that idea?

He seems to have lots of strange ideas...
15896  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: opebo vs. Ron Paul on: July 03, 2009, 05:19:04 am
opebo/opebo
15897  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: India decriminalizes homosexual sex on: July 03, 2009, 04:59:08 am
If some american religious-conservatives could pass a law that sentences to death any person who had homosexual sex, they would do it. Because they are crazy, as were the men who killed this doctor who practised abortions in Kansas.

You'd never find anywhere near a majority for that anywhere in the U.S..
15898  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: 2009 State and Federal elections in Germany on: July 03, 2009, 04:56:35 am
Those are some good numbers.

I'm still personally undecided. I'd actually prefer to vote CDU for a change...but there's a chance that they'll scare me off into the FDP camp yet again.
15899  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Lawsuit on: July 03, 2009, 04:52:19 am
I'm fairly certain that you would only become acting President if you are re-elected PPT, but the PPT election won't happen immediately. Until a new PPT is elected (or you are re-elected), it is my understanding that the Dean of the Senate, Bacon King, is to become acting President once bgwah leaves office tomorrow.

I may be completely wrong though (and sorry to the justices for being off topic in the court room).

That's my understanding as well.
15900  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: opebo vs George H.W. Bush on: July 02, 2009, 06:36:32 pm
Bush/Bush

41 is a good good man.  Average President, but good man.

I'd even call him an above average President, to be honest.

Although his son probably artificially makes him look even better Wink
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