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15876  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation Hearing: Keystone Phil (AG) (At Final Vote) on: June 14, 2009, 04:04:47 pm
Aye
15877  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: OFFICIAL JUNE 2009 ABSENTEE VOTING BOOTH on: June 14, 2009, 03:02:12 pm
President: PiT/HappyWarrior

Mideast Senate: 1. Dan, 2. KyleGordon
15878  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Amendment to the OSPR (At Final Vote) on: June 14, 2009, 11:44:36 am
AYE
15879  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Fair Media Ownership Bill (At Final Vote) on: June 14, 2009, 11:29:44 am
NAY
15880  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: School Standards Reform Bill (Amendment at Vote) on: June 14, 2009, 11:28:17 am
Aye
15881  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation Hearing: Keystone Phil (AG) (Debating) on: June 12, 2009, 09:13:30 am
I am perfectly happy with your answers, Phil, and I will gladly vote in favor of your confirmation.
15882  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: School Lunch Bill (At Final Vote) on: June 12, 2009, 09:10:18 am
Aye
15883  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who would you have voted for... on: June 10, 2009, 04:36:16 pm
so called "social issues" are primarily meant to distract attention away from economic issues (by special interest groups on both sides, admittedly).


Why can't people just accept that social issues (I have no idea why they're "so called 'social issues'" by the way) mean as much or more to some people? Why do economic issues have to be everyone's top priority? Why are we just "distracted" into believing they are more important?

Well it doesn't include things like marriage equality.....but quite often, social problems are a direct result of economical standing. The two are connected more closely than people like to think.
15884  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Democratic Alliance Convention: May-June 2009 on: June 10, 2009, 04:30:59 pm
Aye
15885  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Is McCain regretting Palin now? on: June 10, 2009, 11:53:42 am
No. He wouldn't have won anyways. I don't think having Palin on the ticket lost him any states. Conservatives voted heavy for McCain in Indiana, because of Palin.

What exactly does that do for you if you lose a greater amount of independents?
15886  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: State by State Favorites: West Virginia on: June 10, 2009, 10:31:34 am
Byrd is my least favorite Democrat.

How can anyone dislike Byrd? I mean sure....I don't like his school prayer junk either....and his earmarks are quite excessive....but there's nobody in the Senate that I respect more as a person than Robert Byrd.



Well Franzl, the fact that you respect him definitely gives me pause.  You're clearly not a Democrat who likes him just because he has a D next to his name...and you're not a Republican who likes the "old school" Robert Byrd.

My objections to him are as follows, but I stand to be corrected...

1.  His speech on school prayer was nauseating.  He sounded more in favor of mandatory Christian prayer than a voluntary, non-sectarian moment of silence.  He also rambled on in that speech about the "good old days", "old time religion" and so on.  That sort of nattering makes me think of people who remark about the good old days when children got whippings, women stayed in the kitchen and de colored folk knowed their place.  I know he didn't say any of that but it was evocative.  That could be on me, of course...

2.  The pork issue really bothers me.  If I am going to attack Senator Stevens for his bridge to nowhere, I need to be consistent and attack Democrats who spend on ridiculous projects.  Now, I am a huge fan of government spending but I want to see money spent on things that make sense.  I am concerned that Byrd has set a pattern of grabbing all he can -- regardless of where the money is spent.  I do concede happily that Appalachia in West Virginia is better off than in eastern Kentucky...in no small part due to Byrd's intercession.

3.   I know it's ancient history, but the Klan thing still bugs me.  I realize Byrd has left that behind and anyone can change.  (I am a good example of that.)  But it gives Republicans fodder.

And finally, while I am not a fan of term limits, I do think there comes a point when one is so feeble, you have to question their ability to serve their constituents effectively.  Byrd's speeches are really frightfully reminiscent of my late father's addled, rambling reminiscences...the man can't have many more years left.  I'd like to see him spend a few of those years fly fishing or sitting in the sun.  That's just personal.

But anyway...Byrd could certainly be worse.  And on the whole, he's done very well for his state.  But I think it's time to go.  Just my 2 cents.

Yeah, I understand those concerns....they're legitimate....and I share them Wink

Byrd for me is an amazing example of the ability to change. I know some people think differently....but I truly believe that Byrd is a 100% changed person, judging by some of the comments I've seen from him....and indeed from others. Obama writes in one book of his first encounter with Byrd.

Add to that his truly encyclopedic knowledge of Senate rules and procedure.....his amazing early opposition to the Iraq War (he has stated that his vote against authorization was the vote in his career that he was most proud of)....and his genuineness, that may be what I value more than anything. I guess I could just be a naive hack....but I admire his deeply held convictions....even concerning things that I disagree with, like school prayer and his opposition to gay marriage. As I once read....he claims he needs a Bible and the Constitution, and that's enough to help him make every decision.

Now that doesn't mean that he's my "favorite" senator politically....of course not. I regard Appalachian populism quite lowly, personally, and I certainly agree that Byrd is kind of in over his head these days with his age and health problems.

I dunno....just someone I tend to look up to Smiley
15887  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: State by State Favorites: West Virginia on: June 10, 2009, 08:36:26 am
Byrd is my least favorite Democrat.

How can anyone dislike Byrd? I mean sure....I don't like his school prayer junk either....and his earmarks are quite excessive....but there's nobody in the Senate that I respect more as a person than Robert Byrd.

15888  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Fair Media Ownership Bill (Debating) on: June 10, 2009, 08:23:24 am
I'm not comfortable with regulating something like this.
15889  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Establishment of Social and Economic Development Zones Bill (At Final Vote) on: June 10, 2009, 08:22:09 am
Aye
15890  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round TWO on: June 10, 2009, 06:26:07 am
Goebbels
15891  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What party should the poster preceding you really be in ? (Based on their PM) on: June 10, 2009, 05:48:22 am

15892  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What party should the poster preceding you really be in ? (Based on their PM) on: June 09, 2009, 05:14:41 pm

15893  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Issue, part 63 on: June 09, 2009, 03:55:03 pm
No, but a balanced budget should be maintained when the economy allows.
15894  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding poster's PM score on: June 09, 2009, 03:36:01 pm
Slightly to the left of me....but alright. Good guy Smiley
15895  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Wait a sec... on: June 09, 2009, 11:33:57 am
LOL, it's not like this bill forces children to eat salads.

Anyone who opposes this bill is a fat ass. "How dare children have the option to eat healthily at school!"

 Besides, a poorer school might not be able to afford it.

which is precisely why federal funding is included
15896  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding poster's PM score on: June 09, 2009, 09:21:03 am
a good deal too extreme
15897  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Oh my God he just can't stop himself. on: June 09, 2009, 06:49:53 am
It's like the liberal leaders attacking the blue dogs and asking them to get out.

Um, they did do that when they were out of power. Colon Powell is hardly a Republican, he wouldn't even be deemed a moderate by any reasonable Republican.

I don't think Dick Cheney's defintion of "Republican" should be taken very seriously.
15898  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: School Salad Bar Establishment Bill (Debating) on: June 09, 2009, 05:11:25 am
Marokai, can you explain the wording on "federally subsidized lunch program"?

If we're only talking about spending money on salad bars in schools, then I'm perfectly fine with it.

Yes specifically the salads is what I was referring to.

Although if we actually don't have a subsidized school lunch program for poor students then we need one. Tongue

Oh yes, I certainly agree. I just wanted to make sure we were on the same level.

I'd like to offer an amendment to this bill that would establish such a federal school lunch program.

as a substitute:
School Lunch Bill:

Section 1: In order to guarantee that every pupil in Atlasia has access to a nutritious and high quality lunch, Atlasia shall provide subsidies to needy families that otherwise would have trouble financing them.

Section 2: Subsidies shall be provided variably based on income.
Families making up to $15,000 annually shall be eligible to apply for 100% compensation. Families making greater than $15,000 but less than $20,000 annually shall be eligible to apply for 50% compensation.

Section 3: Every Middle School & High School in Atlasia with over 450 students will be required to equip their cafeterias will full-service salad bars by the end of the 2010-2011 school year.

Section 4: The Senate appropriates $3.5 billion to each region in additional school construction & lunch funds for proper distribution.
15899  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Establishment of Social and Economic Development Zones Bill (Debating) on: June 09, 2009, 04:51:44 am
This is a very good bill that will help stimulate the Atlasian economy.
15900  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: School Salad Bar Establishment Bill (Debating) on: June 09, 2009, 04:50:25 am
Marokai, can you explain the wording on "federally subsidized lunch program"?

If we're only talking about spending money on salad bars in schools, then I'm perfectly fine with it.
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