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17076  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Our long national nightmare is over... on: January 21, 2009, 07:16:28 am
The objection was to the claim that the left loved him at any point after 1994.
Seriously?  Who the hell voted for the guy in 1996?  I'm talking the "American" left here.
17077  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: At least 40 al Qaida terrorists dead of the plaque on: January 21, 2009, 06:43:36 am
Standard "Sun" response.
que?  I've posted three links (the only three in the thread I think), one was from UPI, one wiki and one Telegraph UK.

..and what's your point?
17078  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Our long national nightmare is over... on: January 21, 2009, 06:40:29 am
Welfare Reform, Don't Ask Don't Tell, tax cuts, broadening capital punishment at the federal level all certainly seemed like pandering at the time.  On the other hand he did pass the Brady Bill and the silly/pointless Assault Weapons ban, vetoed a ban on partial birth abortions and gave a half hearted attempt to nationalize healthcare.  So he might not have spent all of his 8 years pandering to the right, just most of the first half.
17079  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Our long national nightmare is over... on: January 21, 2009, 06:21:34 am
Although I am glad that Bush is finally out of the White House, like Opebo, I am quite pessimistic about Obama's first term as President of the United States, primarily as I expect him to pander to the right on so many occasions it shall not be funny.
Well the last Dem Pres did the same thing and most of the American left still love him.
17080  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The last things you did during the Bush Presidency on: January 21, 2009, 04:57:59 am
Movie you saw-Heat (but I was listening to the commentary track..not sure if it counts...if it doesn't, it would be The Onion Movie)
Video game you played-Civ4
Song you listened to-we have several radios going constantly as background noise in various parts of the house so I have no idea what the last song I heard was, but the last song I "listened to" was the last song I played on Rock Band 2 last night and it was Spoonman by Soundgarden.
17081  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Agree or Disagree: Condiments are disgusting and ruin food on: January 21, 2009, 04:54:59 am
Yep, you're from the St.Louis area.  We love us some horseradish!  I eat it on porkchops and certain fish.  It can be hard to find outside of my refrigerator and the grocery store though.  At least around here.
17082  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: At least 40 al Qaida terrorists dead of the plaque on: January 21, 2009, 04:37:41 am
errr, no.  It was most likely due to sh**tty living conditions or they were trying to make a weapon and funked up.  Big time.  link
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The group of 40 terrorists were reported to have been killed by the plague at a training camp in Algeria earlier this month.

It was initially believed that they could have caught the disease through fleas on rats attracted by poor living conditions in their forest hideout.

But there are now claims the cell was developing the disease as a weapon to use against western cities.

Experts said that the group was developing chemical and biological weapons.

Dr Igor Khrupinov, a biological weapons expert at Georgia University, told The Sun: "Al-Qaeda is known to experiment with biological weapons. And this group has direct communication with other cells around the world.

"Contagious diseases, like ebola and anthrax, occur in northern Africa. It makes sense that people are trying to use them against Western governments."

Dr Khrupinov, who was once a weapons adviser to the Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev, added: "Instead of using bombs, people with infectious diseases could be walking through cities."

It was reported last year that up to 100 potential terrorists had attempted to become postgraduate students in Britain in an attempt to use laboratories.

Ian Kearns, from the Institute for Public Policy Research, told the newspaper: "The biological weapons threat is not going away. We're not ready for it."
17083  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Onion completely predicted the Bush administration on: January 21, 2009, 03:04:03 am
He sold National Parks and gave speaches that lasted 40 minutes?
17084  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Onion completely predicted the Bush administration on: January 21, 2009, 02:01:00 am
There were only a couple of things in there that were eerily accurate, most of it is pretty silly.  I'll admit he did a LOT better than Nostradamus, but that's faint praise.
17085  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: At least 40 al Qaida terrorists dead of the plaque on: January 21, 2009, 01:55:12 am
Is anyone else slightly worried that al-Qaeda potentially now has access to live samples of black plague?
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In modern times, several classes of antibiotics are effective in treating bubonic plague. These include the aminoglycosides streptomycin and gentamicin, the tetracyclines tetracycline and doxycycline and the fluoroquinolone ciprofloxacin. Patients with plague in the modern era usually recover completely with prompt diagnosis and treatment.
I'd be worried if I lived next door to a terrorist training center and didn't have access to modern medicine.  Everybody else will be fine.
17086  General Politics / International General Discussion / Gun control works so well in the UK that kids are wearing "stab vests" on: January 21, 2009, 01:30:49 am
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Pupils are wearing stab vests to school because of fears of knife attacks, a report warned today.
The study of gang violence found some children were bringing weapons in to school and hiding them in the school grounds.

One school reported students were found with screwdrivers, hammers and chisels.

Some pupils bring weapons in to schools because of fear of attack, researchers were told.

One said: "It's not a bad thing to bring a weapon into school. You might get attacked on the way to school, on the way back. It's protection.

Another said: "I can protect myself with a knife or a gun. I would rather be arrested than dead."

The report's authors were told it was only a matter of time before a teacher was shot in school.

One interviewee said gangs led to a "significant risk to staff".

"It is only a matter of time in a school in the UK that something happens and a teacher is on the end of it [a shooting]," he said.

Staff were also at risk from armed intruders coming on to school grounds.
17087  General Politics / International General Discussion / At least 40 al Qaida terrorists dead of the plaque on: January 21, 2009, 01:14:54 am
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Anti-terrorism leaders say a number of al-Qaida militants in training have been killed by the "black death, a plague that ravaged Europe in the Middle Ages.

At least 40 al-Qaida followers have died since the disease swept through a training camp in Algeria, The Sun reported Monday. The deaths became known when security forces found a body beside a road.

"This is the deadliest weapon yet in the war against terror. Most of the terrorists do not have the basic medical supplies needed to treat the disease," one security source told the British publication, although it wasn't reported how the deadly outbreak started. "It spreads quickly and kills within hours. This will be really worrying al-Qaida."

The victim was associated with al-Qaida in the Land of the Islamic Maghreb, the largest and most powerful al-Qaida group outside the Middle East, the Sun said.

Al-Qaida leaders said they fear the plague has spread to other cells or to Taliban fighters in Afghanistan.

The epidemic began in the hideouts of the al-Qaida in the Land of the Islamic Maghreb in Algiers, sources told The Sun. The group fled to Bejaia and Jijel provinces.
That's 40 fewer we have to kill.  Keep it up guys!
17088  General Politics / Political Debate / LA Police told not to put on riot gear because it might inflame the crowd on: January 21, 2009, 01:05:32 am
..and of course an officer gets hit in the head.  link
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When local protests broke out this month over the Israeli invasion of Gaza, Los Angeles Police Department officials decided that officers at the scene should not immediately wear their riot helmets out of concerns the gear might escalate passions among the demonstrators.

But the decision has now generated controversy after a protester hit an officer with the wood post of a protest sign during a march in Westwood.


The unidentified Hollywood Division officer, who was not wearing a helmet, crumpled to the ground and was later taken to a hospital after complaining of dizziness.

He is expected to make a full recovery, but the incident has drawn complaints from other officers and the Police Protective League about the LAPD's policy of limiting when tactical gear is worn during demonstrations.

Over the last decade, there has been running disagreement within the LAPD about when and where to deploy so-called tactical gear (in police parlance, "hats and bats") and whether the equipment officers wear can itself change the dynamics of a crowd.


Some argue that for those exercising free speech, the gear is intimidating and anxiety provoking, suggestive that police are poised and primed to battle it out with the crowd.

But to officers, helmets, face guards, gas masks and vests are protection, basic necessities that stand in the way of injury should anything go wrong while dealing with large groups of people.
Shouldn't the safety of the officers outweigh the "anxiety" protesters feel?
17089  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: My boss's desk, W.Bush, Obama and "getting even" on: January 21, 2009, 01:01:47 am
It's ready, printed and cut down to size and everything.
17090  Forum Community / Forum Community / My boss's desk, W.Bush, Obama and "getting even" on: January 21, 2009, 01:00:09 am
My boss has kept a picture of W under the glass on his desk for the last 8 years.  He also has kept a GOP calender for the last several years.  Tonight the photo gets replaced.

..or does it.  I do have a slight problem.  My coworker is black.  I don't want my boss to think he did it.  So do I do it tonight, the night of the inauguration...or later on this week when my black coworker isn't working?
17091  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Iowa City to lose a little freedom on: January 21, 2009, 12:52:30 am
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A proposed new ordinance that would allow Iowa City police to breath-test wait staff and entertainers at bars and restaurants could put bar owners at risk for fines and lost liquor licenses.

The Iowa City City Council is set to discuss the proposal at an upcoming meeting. If passed, the ordinance would make all servers subject to breath tests.

In the proposal, an employee could be fined the $500 maximum for having a blood-alcohol concentration of .02 or higher.

"It's probably going to pass," Councilor Mike O'Donnell said. "The thought is that if you're not intoxicated, you can be more accurate when checking IDs and keeping people safe in the bar."

O'Donnell said the council had not yet set a voting date, but expects a discussion will take place in early February.

"I understand the purpose and respect where it's coming from," said Brianna Martindale, a bartender at Micky's Irish Pub, 11 S. Dubuque St. "We have a responsibility to make sure everything in the bar runs smoothly and that everyone there is safe."
This is nearing UK levels of stupid Nanny State laws.
17092  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: ..and the most frightening headline of the day goes to.... on: January 21, 2009, 12:46:11 am
The church I attended as a child taught sex education to children that young. Maybe I've just been conditioned to not find it as odd.
5?  That's much too young.  Don't you watch South Park?  Remember when Stan and friends had to wear a Jimmy Hat all day long so they didn't get the AIDS from the girls.
17093  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: ..and the most frightening headline of the day goes to.... on: January 21, 2009, 12:41:30 am
Obviously, but do you want your 5 year old being taught about sex, at school...."hands" on?
17094  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mississippi trying to catch up to the stupidity of Alabama on: January 21, 2009, 12:37:51 am
..and you really think they should be teaching the second in school?
17095  General Politics / International General Discussion / ..and the most frightening headline of the day goes to.... on: January 21, 2009, 12:30:31 am
The Daily Mail UK for this piece of awesomeness.
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Teach the pleasure of gay sex to children as young as five, say researchers

From here.
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Children as young as five should be taught to understand the pleasures of gay sex, according to leaders of a taxpayer-funded education project.

Heads of the project have set themselves a goal of 'creating primary classrooms where queer sexualities are affirmed and celebrated'.

The ambition was revealed in documents prepared for the No Outsiders project run by researchers from universities and backed with 600,000 of public money provided by the Economic and Social Research Council.
17096  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mississippi trying to catch up to the stupidity of Alabama on: January 21, 2009, 12:25:26 am
     This topic has already been made. Tongue
As if making fun of the South ever gets old. Smiley
17097  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mississippi trying to catch up to the stupidity of Alabama on: January 21, 2009, 12:23:48 am
I'm for this.  What is wrong with presenting alternatives to "You are a monkey, your life has no value" and then expecting kids to respect one another.
Right, that's exactly what science classes teach everywhere but Alabama.
17098  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Mississippi trying to catch up to the stupidity of Alabama on: January 21, 2009, 12:12:52 am
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A Mississippi lawmaker has introduced a bill that would require textbooks to include a disclaimer describing evolution as a "controversial theory" and advising students to keep an "open mind" to other explanations for the origin of life.

Rep. Gary Chism introduced the legislation, House Bill 25, earlier this month. The bill has been referred to two committees, Education and Judiciary A.

The proposal, if enacted, would require the State Board of Education to include the 200-word disclaimer on the inside front cover of textbooks that include evolution topics.

"The word 'theory' has many meanings, including: systematically organized knowledge; abstract reasoning; a speculative idea or plan; or a systematic statement of principles," the opening paragraph of the bill states. "Scientific theories are based on both observations of the natural world and assumptions about the natural world. They are always subject to change in view of new and confirmed observations."

"This textbook discusses evolution, a controversial theory some scientists present as a scientific explanation for the origin of living things. No one was present when life first appeared on earth. Therefore, any statement about life's origins should be considered a theory," the proposal continues.

"Evolution refers to the unproven belief that random, undirected forces produced living things. There are many topics with unanswered questions about the origin of life which are not mentioned in your textbook, including: the sudden appearance of the major groups of animals in the fossil record (known as the Cambrian Explosion); the lack of new major groups of other living things appearing in the fossil record; the lack of transitional forms of major groups of plants and animals in the fossil record; and the complete and complex set of instructions for building a living body possessed by all living things."

The textbook disclaimer would end with the following advice: "Study hard and keep an open mind."

Other states have proposed similar disclaimers.

Alabama is currently the only state that requires a disclaimer on evolution be included in science textbooks discussing the topic. The most recent version of the text was adopted by the Alabama State Board of Education in 2005.
17099  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should interracial marriages be allowed? on: January 21, 2009, 12:00:06 am
k...but some white dudes shouldn't marry white women either.  Bad spouses are bad spouses regaurdless of race, religion or political positions.
17100  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: What does "YaBB God" mean? on: January 20, 2009, 11:57:23 pm
Just having a lot of posts doesn't mean one pads.  I don't recall reading any Eraserhead posts that contain nothing but an "LOL" (or other short, worthless posts).
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