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17076  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Second on: August 05, 2009, 04:29:56 am
2D is flat
17077  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Forum Invitational Tournament: 2009 on: August 05, 2009, 03:19:21 am
17078  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Attention whore thread on: August 05, 2009, 02:42:43 am
Not everyone needs them removed.  My older sister still has hers (she only has the bottom two...I think) and she will turn 40 in April.
17079  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Attention whore thread on: August 05, 2009, 02:06:13 am
I had all four of mine removed one fine April morning back in 1995.  That evening I was driving my wife back to the hospital so she could give birth to our son.  Great timing!  To make the story slightly better this was in Mississippi and we lived in a nasty old mobile home.

Be prepared to have giant cheeks for a day or two.  Your friends and family WILL make fun of you for it.  With modern anesthetics, there is very little pain overall.  A little dull throbbing as your meds start to wear off.  Nothing to be worried about really.
I haven't gotten them out and yet and all four are in. I can't afford to have surgery to get them out. They only hurt at random times, and when they do its usually one side then it moves to the other side overtime. The bottom ones hurt the most.
Cost of the operation was one of the top three reasons I joined the Air Force.
17080  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: A man leaves you a box on your front porch. on: August 05, 2009, 01:58:07 am
No. How is this even a question?
Some people are amazingly selfish (and have an unhealthy obsession with wealth).  It may be an age thing...but I doubt it.  Probably more of an integrity thing.
17081  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Opinion of Penn and Teller on: August 05, 2009, 01:54:33 am
Here is what the shows have been calling shenanigans on ("left" positions in red, "conservative" positions in blue:
talking to the dead
alternative medicine
Christian "Left Behind" and other survivor types
Second hand smoke
Penis and breast enlargement
Feng Shui
ouija board and near death experiences
environment fearmongering

terrorism hysteria/mad cow disease fear
war on drugs
biblical accuracy
New Age BS
plastic surgery
funeral services
Alcoholics Anonymous
home based exercise equipment

monogamy (again) and trying to "fix" homos
911truthers, Moon landing fakes and JFK assassination crap
life coaching
critical view of Mother Teresa, Gandhi and Dalai Lama
political correctness and diversity requirements at Uni's
govt surveillance and govt encroachment into our private lives
gun control
ghost hunters
the Endangered Species Act
supernatural signs
needless luxury

gays in the boy scouts/mormons
prostitution laws
capital punishment
WTC rebuilding
obsesive pet owners
abstinence only education

obesity epidemic
Wal-Mart haters
colon detoxification
Minutemen (the border guys,  not opebo)
American with Disabilities Act
Mount Rushmore
nuclear power haters
anger management classes

porno regulation on the internet
govt funded space programs
carbon credits
sensitivity training
child safety
remembering the "good ole days"

video games and teen violence
dec 21 2012 idiots
polygraph tests
organic food
US tax code

Conservative?  I think not.
17082  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama and LGBT rights on: August 05, 2009, 01:19:35 am
Like Xtian Fundies with the GOP, where else they going to go?  Maybe, since gay people are smarter on average than the Fundies, a few more might wise up and vote third party...but I wouldn't hold my breath.  The "lesser of two evils" meme is just as strong (one would assume) with the LGBT crowd as it is with the straight crowd.
17083  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Experts say Peak Oil to happen in 10 years, no this is not a repeat from 2004.. on: August 05, 2009, 01:13:59 am
Or it's already occurred (or is currently occurring) and won't be the catastrophe it's fan boys have made it out to be.  Like most Chicken Little stories.
17084  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Opinion of Penn and Teller on: August 05, 2009, 01:05:29 am
What reasonable environmentalism have they trashed?

(obviously how we define "reasonable environmentalism" may differ a great deal)
17085  General Discussion / History / Re: Top Ten Presidents on: August 05, 2009, 01:01:31 am
10.William Henry Harrison

Why the hell would Harrison be in the top ten?  He spent almost his whole presidency in bed trying to recover from pneumonia!
Which is better than being out of bed and being an asshat like most of our Presidents.  Not their fault though, we, the idiots, vote them in.  You get the govt you deserve.
17086  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Opinion of this Product... on: August 05, 2009, 12:43:01 am
I wish the price wasn't blacked out...I'm curious.  Not interested mind you, just curious.
17087  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: What do you think of the PMRC? on: August 05, 2009, 12:27:19 am
17088  General Politics / Political Debate / What do you think of the PMRC? on: August 05, 2009, 12:25:18 am
PMRC wiki
The Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC) was an American committee formed in 1985 by four women: Tipper Gore, wife of Senator and later Vice President Al Gore; Susan Baker, wife of Treasury Secretary James Baker; Pam Howar, wife of Washington realtor Raymond Howar; and Sally Nevius, wife of Washington City Council Chairman John Nevius . They were known as the "Washington wives" a reference to their husbands' connections with the federal government. The Center eventually grew to include 22 directors.

In October 1984, the National Parent-Teacher Association, (PTA), sent a letter to 30 record labels and to the Recording Industry Association of America, (RIAA), proposing the music industry label records that contained "explicit lyrics or content", in order to "take the element of surprise out of buying an album". However, initially none of the record companies agreed to the PTA's proposal. A response letter from RIAA President, Stanley Gortikov, stated that: "There are wide variations, company to company, within our industry in respect to artists, contractual relationships, marketing considerations and product services."

The formation of the PMRC began in 1984 after Tipper Gore, along with her daughter Karenna, heard Prince's song "Darling Nikki." This track, which appears on the soundtrack to the film Purple Rain, contains references to sex and masturbation ("I knew a girl named Nikki/I guess you could say she was a sex fiend/I met her in a hotel lobby/Masturbating with a magazine").

Gore watched other rock music videos and concluded: "The images frightened my children, they frightened me! I am frightened! Way frightened! The graphic sex and the violence were too much for us to handle." Susan Baker became alarmed when she heard her seven-year-old daughter singing along with Madonna songs that Baker considered "suggestive"[citation needed] Gore and Baker, along with Howar and Nevius, formed the PMRC in May 1985.

The PMRC claimed that the change in rock music was attributable to the decay of the nuclear family in America.[1] Gore asserted that families are "haven(s) of moral stability" which protect children from outside influence, and that without the family structure rock music was "infecting the youth of the world with messages they cannot handle."

Rap Music of the mid to late 80s, especially artists that were deemed violent, particularly Ice-T and Run DMC furthered the PMRC's influence in American Politics. Ice-T was personally accused by Tipper Gore with support from the PMRC for the increasing rates of violence against police officers in East Los Angeles in the Late 80s
17089  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: A man leaves you a box on your front porch. on: August 05, 2009, 12:12:51 am
Not if it's a random person, no.
17090  General Discussion / History / Re: Top Ten Presidents on: August 05, 2009, 12:10:39 am
10.William Henry Harrison
17091  General Politics / International General Discussion / Sabers being rattled by Russians and Georgians a year later on: August 05, 2009, 12:02:03 am
Russian forces have been put on a higher state of readiness ahead of this week's first anniversary of the war with Georgia, Russia says.

The foreign ministry accused Georgia of a series of "provocations".

Russia claims villages in Georgia's breakaway region of South Ossetia have been hit by mortar fire.

Georgia, meanwhile, says Russia has moved border posts further onto its territory. EU monitors on the ground say neither claim can be confirmed.

The EU has urged both sides to show restraint as the anniversary of the war, on 7 August, approaches.

The EU Monitoring Mission in Georgia (EUMM) is the only organisation now monitoring the boundary line.

It has called for unrestricted access on both sides of the boundary. Russian and Ossetian forces have not allowed EU personnel into South Ossetia so far, to check the allegations of Georgian attacks.

Usually the side not letting outside observers in is in the wrong...correct?  I'm sure our friendly neighborhood Russophilian will stop by the thread to explain.
17092  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: My music tournament on: August 04, 2009, 11:56:42 pm
Dropkick Murphys vs Kris Kristofferson

Beck vs Carter Family

Old Crow Medicine Show vs Rancid

Billy Bragg vs NoFX

Mary Gauthier vs Taj Mahal

Phil Ochs vs Reel Big Fish

Mighty Mighty Bosstones vs Tom Waits

Cop Shoot Cop vs Joe Ely

Justin Townes Earle vs Peter Tosh

Steve Goodman vs Mudhoney

Neko Case vs Ton Steine Scherben

Corb Lund Band vs John Prine

Lee Scratch Perry vs Sonic Youth

Lightnin' Hopkins vs Doc Watson

Johnny Cash vs Todd Snider

Suburban Legends vs Townes Van Zandt

Del McCoury Band vs Pavement

James McMurtry vs OMC

Burning Spear vs Uncle Tupelo

John Lee Hooker vs Social Distortion

The Clash vs Jimmie Rodgers

Pixies vs Lucinda Williams

Howlin' Wolf vs Loretta Lynn

Nirvana vs Hank Williams

Woody Guthrie vs Mad Caddies

Guy Clark vs Slaid Cleaves

Ramblin' Jack Elliott vs The Pogues

Son Volt vs Gillian Welch

Rodney Crowell vs Steve Earle

Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds vs Robert Earl Keen

Lyle Lovett vs Bob Marley & the Wailers

Robert Johnson vs New Model Army
17093  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bubba to the rescue on: August 04, 2009, 07:39:43 am
We sent Bill Clinton to pick up two women?  Well at least we picked the right man for the job.  Go get 'em Bill!
17094  General Politics / International General Discussion / Experts say Peak Oil to happen in 10 years, no this is not a repeat from 2004.. on: August 04, 2009, 06:38:20 am
..or 2001 or 1991 or 1978 or 1973.


GLOBAL oil production is likely to peak in about 10 years, a leading energy economist says.
The warning from the chief economist at the International Energy Agency (IEA) Fatih Birol comes as figures show Australia's crude production has fallen by 24.92 per cent in the past five years.

Domestic importation of oil is also predicted by the Australian Bureau of Agriculture and Resource Economics to fall to 24,665 megalitres in 2008-09.

Dr Birol has warned a rise in oil demand and the subsequent price hike could wreck a potential recovery in the worldwide economy.

"One day we will run out of oil, it is not today or tomorrow, but one day we will run out of oil and we have to leave oil before oil leaves us,'' Dr Birol told British newspaper The Independent.

On the other hand, anybody that thinks we will "run out of oil" clearly isn't an expert.
17095  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Minn. gives road company $50 million, also suing them for bridge collapse on: August 04, 2009, 06:33:42 am
ST. PAUL, Minn. Two companies the state accuses of negligence that contributed to the Interstate 35W bridge collapse have won a combined $50 million in new highway and bridge contracts since the deadly disaster two years ago.

Minnesota's continued reliance on engineering consultant URS Corp. and paving company Progressive Contractors Inc. is drawing attention amid a slew of lawsuits filed by collapse victims, the state and the contractors themselves.

Lawyers for the state are trying to recover at least $37 million the amount a government settlement fund paid to the 145 people injured and relatives of the 13 killed on Aug. 1, 2007.

While some legal experts doubt whether transportation officials could have stopped either company from bidding or signing new public contracts, one lawmaker said the deals pose yet another public relations headache for an agency still on the rebound.

"Certainly it looks awfully odd to the public that you have got the state suing them on the one hand for doing a lousy job and on the other hand you keep giving them business," said Sen. Ron Latz, a Democrat involved in crafting the compensation fund. "Either they're capable of doing the job right or not."

In a final report last fall, federal investigators blamed the collapse on poorly designed connector plates that held together the span's steel beams. But they also cited the weight of construction materials on the bridge as a factor.

The Minnesota Department of Transportation declined to comment on its relationship with the vendors because the agency is now involved in litigation with them.
17096  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Creationist theme park to be seized by the federal government for tax evasion on: August 04, 2009, 06:30:54 am
I guess they didn't see that situation evolving

(joke  stolen from FARK)


A federal judge has cleared the way for the government's seizure of a creationism theme park in Pensacola owned by a couple convicted of tax fraud.

A ruling by U.S. District Judge Casey Rodgers states that the nine properties that make up Dinosaur Adventure Land as well as two bank accounts associated with the park will be used to satisfy $430,400 owed to the federal government.

Kent Hovind, who founded the park and a ministry, Creation Science Evangelism, is serving 10 years in federal prison for failing to pay the Internal Revenue Service more than $470,000 in employee taxes.
17097  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Lou Dobbs on: August 04, 2009, 06:22:33 am
An HP of the regular variety.
17098  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Should people with private school degrees be banned from public employment? on: August 04, 2009, 02:21:47 am
Well yeah, but we all like to think we're not.  Of course being prejudicial against the perceived rich (clearly not all private school kids are "rich") isn't as bad as owning slaves or being the state "muscle" for aparthied.  But it's still ignorant and wrong.
17099  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Band vs. Band tournament on: August 04, 2009, 02:00:39 am
17100  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: EU population up by 2.1 Mio. last year, now at 500 Mio.+ on: August 04, 2009, 01:25:50 am

I don't even have to click the link to know what it is.  The more things change....
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