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17076  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Issue, part 38 on: March 31, 2009, 06:36:37 am
Are these drugs made in Canada?  Or are they made in the US and sold to Canadians cheaply under some kind of contract that Americans are wanting to buy at a cheaper rate than Americans normally get these drugs?

If it's the first one I don't see the problem.  If it's the second one, there is a problem.
17077  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: most 'enlightened' us state? on: March 31, 2009, 06:30:43 am
If you mean 'enlightened' in the sense of the Enlightenment then I would probably go for Massachusetts.
I think you spelled entitlement wrong.

I was going to respond to that but I forgot that Nebraska was totally irrelevant.
moving on.
Says the guy who's main argument involves a movie most likely written by a guy from New Jersey.  Shouldn't you be freaking out over a lite bright about now while erasing every letter "R" you see?
17078  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: most 'enlightened' us state? on: March 31, 2009, 06:24:52 am
New England hates minorities?

LMAO
Hate might not be the right word, but the white people up there certainly hold more stereotypes than the white people in say....Minnesota or Iowa.  It's a different kind of racism in New England.
17079  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why are Jews so heavily Democratic? on: March 31, 2009, 06:08:42 am
Economic policies that have focused on the very wealthy at the expense of the poorest people in the country as well as drug laws which have been much stricter on drugs in the inner-city than drugs on Wall St, even though its basically the same thing (crack vs cocaine).
I know some people are working on fixing this problem, why are there not more mainstream Dems working on it?  It isn't just the Pubbies fault here.

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Now its obviously bigger than this, but look at the differences in what went on in many of the inner-cities during the 80's under Reagan's policies compared to what went on there during the 90's under Clinton's policies.  As long as the GOP continues to support policies which had the horrendous impact that it did in the inner cities during the 1980's they aren't going to get any support from the African American community.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but which policies did Reagan have that made the inner cities worse.  Which ones did Clinton have that helped?  Why did they )the inner cities) suck so much during the late 70s?  Was it the fault of Carter's policies?
17080  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Issue, part 38 on: March 30, 2009, 11:30:03 pm
I'm not understanding.  What is the issue?
17081  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Henry Ford on: March 30, 2009, 07:38:45 am
+1 on $5 minimum wage in 1914. -1 on the anti-semitism, and -1 on the assembly line.

What's wrong with the assembly line? Do you prefer horse and buggy?
I'm curious about this as well, what's wrong with the assembly line?
17082  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post a live performance by your favorite band on: March 30, 2009, 04:15:41 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iwJenva_l0&feature=related

100,000 German teenagers can't be wrong
17083  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Issue, part 37 on: March 30, 2009, 04:01:09 am
The locals won't be flipping nuts everywhere.  How's it going in Japan and Germany?
17084  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What's the last movie you've seen? on: March 29, 2009, 04:20:39 pm
Can anyone name a good musician who's a conservative?
Rush, Ted Nugent, Ramones, ...yeah, it's a short list (and you could make good arguments against two of them)...there are others though.
Ah yes...I'm seeing a correlation between the decline of rock in the 70s and the political views of its artists.
becasue 1% of album sales came from conservative artists, that's why rock declined?
17085  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What's the last movie you've seen? on: March 29, 2009, 03:16:20 pm
Battle Royal II-Very good (if a bit cheesy).  The Japanese punk over the ending credits kicked ass too.
17086  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What's the last movie you've seen? on: March 29, 2009, 03:12:23 pm
Can anyone name a good musician who's a conservative?
Rush, Ted Nugent, Ramones, ...yeah, it's a short list (and you could make good arguments against two of them)...there are others though.
17087  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which car should I buy ? on: March 29, 2009, 01:03:29 pm
What's wrong with hatchbacks?
17088  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Are fundementalist "Christians" real Christians? on: March 29, 2009, 09:56:12 am
If you're willing to condemn essentially every Christian living in Western society, then I agree that there is no contradiction in your position.
Yeah, pretty much.


edit-my first post in the thread did start out "Very few 'Christians' are real Christians."
17089  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Issue, part 37 on: March 29, 2009, 09:37:34 am
Sure, that could work too (arming the locals).  I don't think it would be as big of an undertaking as it would seem at first.  After the third or forth oppressive govt is toppled, the rest will get in line or try and form together against us.  Either way it leads to the death of more evil.

And no, America couldn't and shouldn't do this alone.  We should create a new world organization that only liberal democracies with free markets can join.  Then start kicking the bad guy ass.  Starting with the easiest.

Yeah, it's not going to happen and there would be lots (and LOTS) of death in the short term and not all of those deaths would be bad guys.  It would be hard and it's not even feasible today or in the immediate future....but assuming it goes well, we could enter a great new era for man.
17090  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Are fundementalist "Christians" real Christians? on: March 29, 2009, 09:24:22 am
I've read the Bible and I don't understand how somebody could claim to follow Christ and drive a $50k car or live in a McMansion.

On what ground? That the accumulation of material wealth is inconsistent with Christianity?
By reading the teachings of Christ, yes it seems that it would be. At least with excessive wealth.
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But then why didn't you include air conditioning, computers, shampoo, television sets, MP3 players, and vacuum cleaners?
Because making a list like that would be exhaustive and stupid?  The two examples I gave seem to have been enough to get your goat, the extra would have been superfluous.

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Indeed, why didn't you include any car on the market today? Don't they all have "unnecessary" features? And what house size is too large? Is there a magic number buried somewhere in Scripture?
Hey, if you can read the scriptures and come to the conclusion that God thinks it's ok if you just give the bare minimum (10% or whatever) that is between you and your god.  I read them differently, but maybe I've missed some parts.  Fight my ignorance?
17091  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Are fundementalist "Christians" real Christians? on: March 29, 2009, 08:36:22 am
I've read the Bible and I don't understand how somebody could claim to follow Christ and drive a $50k car or live in a McMansion.

On what ground? That the accumulation of material wealth is inconsistent with Christianity? But then why didn't you include air conditioning, computers, shampoo, television sets, MP3 players, and vacuum cleaners?

Indeed, why didn't you include any car on the market today? Don't they all have "unnecessary" features? And what house size is too large? Is there a magic number buried somewhere in Scripture?
Luke 12:33. "Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys."

Luke 3:11. And [John the Baptist] would answer and say to them, "Let the man with two tunics share with him who has none, and let him who has food do likewise."

Mt. 5:42. Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you.

Luke 14:12-14. "When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, lest they also invite you in return, and repayment come to you. But when you give a reception, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, since they do not have the means to repay you; for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous."

Luke 12:44. "Sell your possessions and give alms; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Mt. 19:20ff. The young man said to Him, "All these commands I have kept; what am I still lacking?" Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

Luke 6:33ff. "And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, in order to receive back the same."

Mt. 6:2-4. "When therefore you give alms, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be honored by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, that your alms may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will repay you."

Mt. 6:24. "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money."

1 Tim. 6:10. For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith, and pierced themselves with many a pang.

Gal. 2:9ff. Recognizing the grace that had been given to me, James and Cephas and John... gave to me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we might go to the Gentiles, and they to the circumcised. They only asked us to remember the poor-- the very thing I also was eager to do.

Prov. 19:17. He who is gracious to a poor man lends to the LORD, and He will repay him for his good deed.

Prov. 14:31. He who oppresses the poor reproaches his Maker, but he who is gracious to the needy honors Him.

17092  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: UN Human Rights Council: Islam criticism no-no on: March 29, 2009, 08:31:30 am
Isn't passing laws to stop the critique of something always a sign that the thing in question is full of sh**t?
17093  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which car should I buy ? on: March 29, 2009, 08:27:35 am
Of those...the A3.
17094  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Issue, part 37 on: March 29, 2009, 04:42:56 am
Are you just trying to be funny or is that a subtle jab that I'm not smart enough to get?  My best guess is "libertarian advocating invading 3rd world countries to save the helpless seems like a contradiction" thing?  If that's it I'll try and answer as best I can, but I certainly don't speak for (or even belong to) the Libertarian Party.

The fact the you openly admit to not caring about the Third World.  Sure, I doubt any of us on this forum have actually been there to literally help out, but often just financial contributions are a step in the right direction.  Your comment seemed to me to be typical of the libertarian philosophy.
Wha, what?  What I typed gave little inclination as to whether I cared about the third world or not, if anything it should read as support for them.  Sending $100 every couple of years isn't helping.  If you want to actually help these people over the long run you should be petitioning your govt to knock off their govt.  There is well more than enough food in the world to feed everybody and there has been for decades, the reason people are starving is horrible govts not droughts or the West's lack of caring.  We care, we just don't know how to fix it because the only answer (toppling corrupt govts in third world countries) is too violent, costly and hard.  It's easier to write a check and hope more of it makes it to the poor than to those oppressing the poor.


(and what makes you think I don't or libertarians don't give to charity?  Again, we libertarians are doing a horrible job of explaining our ideology or you guys aint listening.  We're very big on charity.  We're against the govt doing charity work because they are horribly inefficient, but we aren't stupid.  We acknowledge that charity is needed.)
17095  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "green" laws lead to smuggling in Spokane on: March 29, 2009, 04:22:38 am
The rest of the article mentioned that several other states in the NE have this kind of law, so I don't understand how it is such a big deal.

different water perhaps having the impact?
That is what the article said.  They have hard water in Spokane and apparently hard water and green detergents don't clean well together.
17096  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Agree or Disagree: Beavis and Butthead > South Park on: March 28, 2009, 01:34:16 pm
To each their own.  Different strokes for different folks.  You win some, you lose some.  A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.  A penny sav...


Sorry.  Some of the episods can be a little heavy.  Even they've joked about it before on the show (see Cartoon Wars...I think part II, others).  This season has been good so far.  I'm biased.
17097  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Freedom Tower no longer to be called Freedom Tower on: March 28, 2009, 01:27:30 pm
With a cartoon of Mohammed painted on the side....looking east of course.







(I shoudn't have to say I'm joking)
17098  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Agree or Disagree: Beavis and Butthead > South Park on: March 28, 2009, 01:09:00 pm
...what?  Don't make me come over there.
17099  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Sexless love or loveless sex? on: March 28, 2009, 01:05:24 pm
Love is something that people say they're in, so they can get laid. Then, they end up hurting eachother, because it was all based on lies to begin with.


Wow, that sucks dude.  We've all been there though.  True love might not be possible*, but many people find a best friend that makes them happy for a lifetime.  And maybe, that is better than love.  Love hurts.  That dull pain deep in your neck.


*I think it is possible.
17100  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Issue, part 37 on: March 28, 2009, 12:56:43 pm
Are you just trying to be funny or is that a subtle jab that I'm not smart enough to get?  My best guess is "libertarian advocating invading 3rd world countries to save the helpless seems like a contradiction" thing?  If that's it I'll try and answer as best I can, but I certainly don't speak for (or even belong to) the Libertarian Party.
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