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17076  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Israeli minister alternatives to attack on Iran running out on: June 07, 2008, 03:00:29 pm
It's an understandable position.  Top Iranian officials have repeatedly threatened the Israelis with death and destruction for decades, and now they are getting close to nukes.  If these facts are true, then yes, they have a right to defend themselves from that threat.  (and then face the international reaction to it)
17077  General Politics / International General Discussion / Israeli minister alternatives to attack on Iran running out on: June 07, 2008, 02:51:54 pm
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An Israeli deputy prime minister on Friday warned that Iran would face attack if it pursues what he said was its nuclear weapons programme.
"If Iran continues its nuclear weapons programme, we will attack it," said Shaul Mofaz, who is also transportation minister.

"Other options are disappearing. The sanctions are not effective. There will be no alternative but to attack Iran in order to stop the Iranian nuclear programme," Mofaz told the Yediot Aharonot daily.

He stressed such an operation could only be conducted with US support.

A former defence minister and armed forces chief of staff, Mofaz hopes to replace embattled Ehud Olmert as prime minister and at the helm of the Kadima party.
17078  General Discussion / History / Re: should jeff davis have been hanged? on: June 07, 2008, 02:17:02 pm
No.  Because I oppose the death penalty AND because if you executed Davis for treason, you'd have to execute a lot of other Southerners.  That's all this country needed after the Civil War.  More bloodshed.
17079  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Who do you think will be the Democratic Vice Presidential nominee? on: June 07, 2008, 10:44:25 am
My gut says Richardson, but my brain screams OLDER WHITE GUY, probably a southern Gov.
17080  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Unemployment shoots up! on: June 07, 2008, 10:34:33 am
You guys done whacking each other off yet?
17081  General Discussion / History / Re: Who is the most underrated President in history? on: June 07, 2008, 09:52:26 am
On the thread at hand?  You could make good arguments for a number of Presidents, as has been done in this thread.  But trying to make a case that Teddy (who I like) or LBJ (who I can't stand) are "underrated" as President's is a bit of a stretch.

Unless "underrated" doesn't mean what I think it means.
17082  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Milk Madness on: June 07, 2008, 06:41:47 am
The sooner the halfwits learn that protecting unprofitable businesses is horrible economic policy the better we'll all be.
17083  General Discussion / History / Re: Who is the most underrated President in history? on: June 07, 2008, 06:14:37 am
LBJ and Teddy, underrated?  Wasn't LBJ one of the top Presidents last time we did something like that?  I won't argue here that he sucked (he did), but he certainly isn't "underrated".  It's almost as bad as saying Lincoln or FDR.
17084  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Fluorescent yellow is an abomination on: June 06, 2008, 09:16:34 pm
Ya know what's worse?  The people that highlight 3/4s of the words in a book.  If you're highlighting more than 10 or 15% of a given text, you're doing something wrong.
17085  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Dems (and others on the left), do you prefer to "battle" Libertarians or Fundies on: June 06, 2008, 07:45:03 pm
We're much easier to dismiss if they demonize us first.
17086  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Milk Madness on: June 06, 2008, 05:33:45 pm
But but but how could we protect the buggy whip makers if we don't subsidize them?  We must keep these jobs in America no matter how much it hurts the country as a whole.
17087  General Discussion / History / Re: Who is the most underrated President in history? on: June 06, 2008, 05:24:02 pm
Hey, this is a serious thread.
17088  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What is you all-time favorite TV Show? on: June 06, 2008, 09:46:29 am
I've been watching Arrested Development on DVD the last few weeks.  There is some really good stuff in there.  It's to bad it was on Fox, where they kill good shows as quickly as they kill bad ones.
17089  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Mugabe stops food aid distribution on: June 06, 2008, 09:19:56 am
I believe I heard his wife say they ain't leaving.  This wont end well.  Should we go help?  Should the UN?  Should the UK lead the "rescue"?  Are we in the west morally responsible for crap like this?
17090  General Discussion / History / Re: Persons of the Decade. on: June 06, 2008, 08:59:55 am
1900's-Teddy
1910's- Georges Clemenceau
1920's-Al Capone
1930's-Hitler
1940's-Stalin
1950's-Krushchev
1960's-LBJ
1970's-Nixon
1980's-Gorbachev
1990's-Bill Gates
2000's-Osama bin Laden
17091  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What is you all-time favorite TV Show? on: June 06, 2008, 07:29:54 am
So many good shows.  Sopranos, Simpsons, All in the Family, Cheers, MASH, South Park, The Twilight Zone, Venture Brothers....probably the Simpsons if for no other reason than it's stayed on the air for so long and keeps making money.  Sure it's not what it was 10 years ago, but neither are you or me Smiley
17092  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Saint Louis! on: June 06, 2008, 12:13:56 am
It's not a horrible city, I'd prefer not to move back though.
17093  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How many electoral votes have you visited in the past four years? on: June 06, 2008, 12:02:53 am

186 total
165-Bush
21-Kerry

lifetime



391-total
278-Bush
112-Kerry
17094  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Dems (and others on the left), do you prefer to "battle" Libertarians or Fundies on: June 05, 2008, 11:20:38 pm
....or ignorance is bliss.
17095  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Dems (and others on the left), do you prefer to "battle" Libertarians or Fundies on: June 05, 2008, 11:06:04 pm
Why do you defend fundies?
Because he fears libertarians.
17096  General Discussion / History / Re: Presidential Comparison 4 on: June 05, 2008, 06:46:29 pm
Hoover.  He might not have done the right things to prevent the depression, but it certainly can't be blamed on him.  LBJ's handling of Vietnam easily trumps anything you could remotely blame on Hoover.
17097  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Comedy Goldmine V: A Tribute to Delayed Sequels with Over-the-Hill Actors on: June 05, 2008, 06:20:02 pm
..and why the hell do I keep defending opebo? Smiley
17098  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Comedy Goldmine V: A Tribute to Delayed Sequels with Over-the-Hill Actors on: June 05, 2008, 06:19:40 pm
Uh...did opebo call J.J. a "nigger?"

Why should they be displeased with McCain?  He is an extreme right winger.

As for what they are saying now, have been saying, and will be saying through to the election:  code words for 'there's a n****r in the woodpile!'.

No, "child in the woodpile."

No, n****r.  It works wonders electorally - you'll see.


Kind of offended yet still amused.
No, he was making a correction.  "Not child, but n***r." would be another way to word what he said.
17099  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: If a Powell-Gates-Petraeus trio ran the show from the beginning... on: June 05, 2008, 06:12:52 pm
History is going to slaughter Rumsfeld.  He is the reason the first 2 years of Iraq were as mucked up as they were.  Granted Bush put the dumbass there and then backed him while he proved himself repeatedly to be unable to complete the job, so he deserves and will get his fair share of abuse from history.  But Rummy might reach Nero* levels of historical incompetency.





*Nero doesn't really deserve the abuse he gets.
17100  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Dems (and others on the left), do you prefer to "battle" Libertarians or Fundies on: June 05, 2008, 06:05:13 pm
But we're so selfish*, that has to out weigh people trying to shove God into the Constitution.



*I'm not saying we are.  Well, everybody is to some degree or another.  Instead of reading these words, you could be feeding the poor.  Selfish prick.
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