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17076  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Gallup- Statistics about the "fetal position"- 5/08 on: July 06, 2008, 09:23:02 am
Does Greenpeace have a stake in this debate? Of course it does. But wouldn't you agree that creating fraudulent evidence to back its claims would only undermine its cause?
That's never stopped Global Warming enthusiasts before.  cite
17077  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Should homeschooling be banned? on: July 06, 2008, 09:18:09 am
I agree with Storebought and Philip btw. Which makes me feel a little... odd. Only in America (and possibly Canada I'm unsure of the situation there) is home schooling associated with religion. Actually in Europe its usually seen as a left wing fad.
It's NOT just a religious thing, the left in this country just like to paint that it is (which is why they are against it.  Bitching about how it will make for socially awkward children is just reasoning after they've made up their mind on the subject).  Many NON-fundies home school their kids, ignorance from Democrats isn't going to change that reality.  I'm not sure how or why it's turned out this way, I would assume that the left would be for home schooling as well.  Some of the blame might go to the two major teachers unions being very much against it (they don't like competition), they have a decent amount of power.  That combined with the way the Fundies have embraced it is probably most of the reason the left is against it.  Now getthing them to admit as much, well that's the challenge. Smiley
17078  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Libertarianism and Morality on: July 06, 2008, 09:08:11 am
But what about those that can't force morals on themselves?  The state must force the proper morals on those people and I think those morals should, oddly enough, exactly mirror mine!  Sheesh.  libertarians never think of the less fortunate.
17079  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: $7 gallon gasoline, 10 million fewer cars by 2010 on: July 06, 2008, 08:56:31 am
Well that would be up to us wouldn't it?
17080  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Are you proud of banning media being impossible in the US? on: July 06, 2008, 08:51:59 am
Oh they whine.  I know the Democrats censored Tipper Gore along time ago so some of you might not remember, but she was HUGE into censorship.  The PMRC is still quite active as far as I know.  Everytime a kid kills somebody, all his hobbies are instantly under threat.  He like to listen to Slayer and play GTA4?   OH NOES!  Metal and video games lead kids to kill!  Nevermind that there were millions of other kids listening to metal and playing GTA4 that didn't kill anybody.  In a free society you're always going to have people crying about more govt control over the people, whether it be via taxes, removing our rights to defend ourselves or censoring our entertainment.  We must be vigilant against these slayers of freedom.
17081  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: National Speed Limit on: July 05, 2008, 10:51:00 pm
No, you shouldn't be in the left lane unless you're passing.  From wiki
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A passing lane is often colloquially referred to as a fast lane because it is often used for extended periods of time for thru traffic or fast traffic. In theory, a passing lane should only be used for passing, thus allowing, even on a road with only two lanes in each direction, motorists to travel at their own pace. Good driving practice is to slip out of the passing lane once slower cars have been passed.
17082  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How Much Do You Pay for Car Insurance? on: July 05, 2008, 03:33:04 pm
You make your party proud.
17083  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How Much Do You Pay for Car Insurance? on: July 05, 2008, 08:28:38 am
Well what kind of insurance is that?  Just liability?  Full?  What's your deductable?  Car insurance can vary a LOT and I seriously doubt you'll be paying the most by the end of the thread.  There seems to be a lot of moderately wealthy young men* on this forum, I'm guessing somebody's mommy and daddy pays a pretty good amount of money in insurance for him.

As for me, I don't even know off the top of my head, but it ain't much.  Much less than you and I got full coverage on 2 cars, both newer than yours (and RED!!...not that insurance companies actually care about that).



*I'd guess at least 1/3rd of them are full of sh**t.
17084  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: National Speed Limit on: July 05, 2008, 08:21:32 am
They can't unless they threaten to withhold highway funds and NJ caves. (or something else underhanded)
17085  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: Joe Horn cleared of charges for killings on: July 05, 2008, 08:14:35 am
This case is right on the line and you generally should give the benifit of the doubt to the guy who was minding his own business over the guy(s) breaking the law.  We should just be thankful there was any investigation at all.  This happens 20+ years ago (maybe not even that long) and the cops say, "Thanks Joe.  I'll send the coroner out in the morning to get the bodies.  You think any them coyote's I'll get to 'em over night?"
17086  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: National Speed Limit on: July 05, 2008, 08:04:40 am
Can someone point on the section in the constitution that gives the federal government anything close to the power to do this?
They didn't have it last time and they did it then.  I thought it was quite clear by now that the Fed does what the Fed wants, fark the states and the law.
17087  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: National Speed Limit on: July 05, 2008, 08:03:52 am
It's easy to make that mistake.  However, here in New Jersey we know how to drive.  Unfortunately we are surrounded by the homes of the worst drivers in the nation, New York and Pennsylvania.  Pennsylvanians think the left hand lane is just another lane for taking your sweet old tractor-paced time in.  New Yorkers think it's a tool for revenge by passing you back and then slowing down in front of you.  We use it to pass anyone failing to pass the 80mph threshold we expect on our highways.  You won't find any self-respecting New Jerseyan with anyone behind them in the fast lane. Grin

Here's the Northeastern breakdown -
Good drivers: New Jersey, Rhode Island, Connecticut
Bad Drivers: Pennsylvania, New York, Massachusetts, (Virginia)
Unimportant drivers: Maryland, Delaware, Upper New England
Interesting.  Now, are all PA drivers bad, or just those from Philly?  I've spent some time in Western PA and they didn't seem to drive any worse than average.  Then again, I grew up across the river from Missouri, by far the worst state in the midwest region when it comes to driving quality so my judgement may have been a little off at the time.  But after spending a couple of years in the south, I don't even bitch about MO drivers anymore.  I'll give Atlanta credit for being fast as hell (when you're not parked on the highway in traffic), but for the most part, the south has the worst drivers in the country.  Especially out in the boonies.
17088  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What's the worst show on the cable news networks? on: July 05, 2008, 06:06:20 am
You forgot to squeeze in there 15% or so for "missing white woman".
17089  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: $7 gallon gasoline, 10 million fewer cars by 2010 on: July 05, 2008, 06:05:16 am
Basically, what has to happen is the people taking charge. The government is so arrogant and stubborn that we cannot expect anything to be done. Americans must take charge of their future. We must all conserve and invest in alternative energy. We need to pressure car companies to create more fuel efficient cars. We need to start carpooling and using mass transit. We need to work together to solve these problems. American citizens will have to solve this crisis by themselves; the first step is realizing the crazy situation we are in.
Exactly, let the MARKET take care of it.  That's what I've been saying the entire time.  Govts certainly aren't going to save us.  Big business certainly isn't going to save us.  We have to fix it.  There is nobody else that cares or is competent enough to do it.  It's gonna hurt, but it has to be done.
17090  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the cops in this ancedote on: July 04, 2008, 07:54:18 pm
Did a Cop kill your dog on the 4th Tweed?
17091  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: July 4th makes me sick on: July 04, 2008, 07:48:36 pm
it just baffles me
Obviously.
17092  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is being cold-hearted something conservatives come across as? on: July 04, 2008, 08:59:12 am
To many, conservatism equates to fear. I see much of American 'conservatism' based about people who want to see the world as they feel it should be, not how it actually is.
You say that like only "conservatism" is guilty of it.

You missed that I tried to clarify that point.
Aye.
17093  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: National Speed Limit on: July 04, 2008, 08:18:55 am
I thought everybody out east did that? Wink


(I note you said "fast" lane.  It's not the "lane for going fast", it's the "lane for passing".  One should never be in the left lane (on a controlled access road) unless activly passing somebody.  Regardless of the speeds involved.  I'll stop being a dick now.)
17094  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Is North Dakota full of dry counties? on: July 04, 2008, 07:57:24 am
You couldn't find anything more lame to get bent out of shape over?  I believe somebody recently misspelled "lose" as "loose" or something.
17095  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: National Speed Limit on: July 04, 2008, 07:54:53 am
Funny, I had a dream like that too.  Except some asshole was only doing 120 in the passing lane and wouldn't get over. Smiley
17096  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is being cold-hearted something conservatives come across as? on: July 04, 2008, 07:51:54 am
To many, conservatism equates to fear. I see much of American 'conservatism' based about people who want to see the world as they feel it should be, not how it actually is.
You say that like only "conservatism" is guilty of it.
17097  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Happy Independence Day! on: July 04, 2008, 07:46:39 am
HOORAY!

Now lets all go blow something up made by an 8 year old girl in a dangerous and environmentally horrid factory!
17098  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: If you Google your name.... on: July 04, 2008, 07:45:15 am
Both my first and last name are fairly common in both America and Germany.  I played in the 1908 Olympics for Germany, I'm a chess master, various Doc's, Lawyers and real estate agents.  I have to put additional facts in before I find one actually about me.
17099  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: National Speed Limit on: July 04, 2008, 05:54:50 am
Franz. You do lose quite a bit of fuel efficiency over 55mph. I forgot what the %'s are but over 65 the numbers are quite significant. 
That can be true (and it normally is, but varies greatly by car), and it still wouldn't mean we need a national speed limit.  Of the dozen or so ways the Feds can use their power to force us to use less gas, this is one of the dumber ways. 

Why should we expect any less?
17100  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you consider yourself more intelligent than the previous poster? on: July 03, 2008, 01:55:24 pm
Probably not.
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