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17076  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Why is it cool to persecute Christians? on: May 29, 2009, 11:01:13 am
Maybe you're on to something.  Maybe the Jews that run Hollywood have been converted?  Afraid of pissing off the golden goose (ie, ignorant masses)?  Clearly a conspiracy here of some kind.
17077  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Human rights group tries to ban video game on: May 29, 2009, 10:57:04 am
Andrew "Dice" Clay is a very rich man thanks to conservatives overreacting(sp?).
17078  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: MA: Mixed Record on Universal Health Care on: May 29, 2009, 10:53:19 am
Totally agree that it is possible, but it takes the right plan.

edit-which is why I'm glad some states are trying some things.  It would probably be better for the average American if it was taken care of at a state level anyway.
17079  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: MA: Mixed Record on Universal Health Care on: May 29, 2009, 10:42:17 am
Quote from: Kevin Sack
The report sets the stage for legislative recommendations expected next month from a state commission that hopes to slow the growth in health spending. The commission has already drafted principles calling for a system of global payments to networks of doctors, hospitals and other providers. The networks would be paid for an individual’s ongoing care, rather than for each procedure or office visit, providing an incentive to keep patients healthy rather than merely treating their ailments.
First I've heard of this particular flavor of subsidized health care.  I'm mildly interested.


(and before the rest of you freak out let me explain.  Govt subsidized health care is as inevitable as the sun rising in the morning.  It's coming.  I might as well fight for the one least likely to harm my level health care or sink the govt.)
17080  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: hide behind the poll: are you f'ing sick of hearing of pa and philly politics? on: May 29, 2009, 10:21:41 am
I know we have a lot of posters from PA, but I know less about CA politics myself than at least ten other states.  I have no clue what's going on in Sacramento.
Hey, at least your state capital hits the MSM from time to time what with your lack of funds and action movie star head of state.  The only thing anybody knows about Lincoln is that it's got a unicameral and nobody knows what that means (yes yes, YOU people do, regular people don't though).  If you pay real close attention you may even know who Ernie Chambers is.  Past that, we're as big of a yawn as you "coasties" think we are.
17081  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Battle of the Movies: Braveheart vs Harold and Kumar: Go To White Castle on: May 29, 2009, 10:13:38 am
From South Park, "say what you want about Mel Gibson, but the son of a bitch knows story structure". 

I'm going to have to go with Braveheart here.  Harold and Kumar is a good movie, but really, I probably wouldn't name it if somebody asked me to list my ten favorite comedies.  I don't like Braveheart as much as I did 12 years ago, but I still think it's a very good movie.  A better movie than HaKgtWC.

(oddly though if given the choice I'd probably watch Harold and Kumar, but only because I've only seen it a few times whereas I've seen Braveheart....I don't know, a lot.)
17082  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Liberapedia versus Conservapedia on: May 29, 2009, 08:23:01 am
That Howard Dean joke was pretty funny.
Quote
“You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had the hotel staff in here.”
17083  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Liberapedia versus Conservapedia on: May 29, 2009, 06:11:56 am
We're located next to an orphanage/nunnery. Wink
17084  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should guns that include "a shoulder thing that goes up" on them be banned? on: May 29, 2009, 05:52:30 am
Logic and gun control types hate each other.
17085  General Discussion / History / Re: Opinion of the Ottoman Empire on: May 29, 2009, 05:35:36 am
Do we have any Armenians?  They probably win the "we hate the Ottomans more" contest.
17086  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you hate pulling a number and waiting for 2 hours as much as I do? on: May 29, 2009, 05:04:25 am
The last time I went to the DMV it took less than 10 minutes for me to get a new license.  Perhaps all the old DMV employees have moved on to bigger and better things? 

Everything military related works that way too.  "hurry up and wait" is the DoD's motto.
17087  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: World Leaders Survivor Redux - Organisation Thread on: May 29, 2009, 04:50:40 am
I'm against immunity and the silly rules.
17088  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: North Korea ends armistice?!? on: May 29, 2009, 04:41:29 am
Nuclear war is catastrophic in any case.

Definitely. I live about 15 miles from the centre of London. I'd have died in a nuclear exchange.
Actually, you would have been just fine* (unless there was something in your area worth nuking).  cite

*depending on you define "fine" and how big the nukes are of course.  The bomb in the link is twice as big as what the Topol M carries.  You'd only recieve "Light damage to all structures, and light to moderate damage to ordinary houses, will occur within this ring."  On the other hand, if London was anything like high value American targets (which I'm sure it was/is) it wasn't going to get hit with just one.  Last I heard the plan was to nuke very high level targets every 5 minutes for an hour.  Obviously that would be impossible as the Russians ability to deliver nukes would be virtually nonexistent in short order.  I don't know what direction from London you are or what the prevailing winds are....you'd certainly want to be upwind.
17089  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Carolyn McCarthy on: May 29, 2009, 04:07:05 am
The ignorance and poorly aimed anger of the anti-gun crowd continues to give me the chuckles.  It's no wonder the good guys won the war on guns.
17090  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Liberapedia versus Conservapedia on: May 29, 2009, 02:58:57 am
How sure are we that conservapedia is what it claims to be?

Maybe this will help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia Tongue
Holy Schlafly Spawn Batman!  They come from the same town me, Franzl, Robert Wadlow and Miles Davis come from.

Are we to assume, then, that the three of you and zombie Robert Wadlow are editors?
Well, zombie Wadlow doesn't do much.  Empties the trash mainly...oh and he watches the weather on TV for hours at a time.

..and to be honest, me and Miles spend a lot of time out back smoking....things.  Franzl does almost all of the work.  This shouldn't surprise anybody.
17091  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Why is it cool to persecute Christians? on: May 29, 2009, 02:54:07 am
Saved!
17092  General Discussion / History / Re: Opinion of the Ottoman Empire on: May 29, 2009, 02:33:47 am
They kept the Arabs and Jews from killing each other, that's got to count for something right?
17093  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather read all of Mein Kampf or Einzige's posting history? on: May 29, 2009, 02:10:30 am
I've tried to read both, I think I've gotten further with Einzige's posts.  Mein Kampf is brutal....to read, the content is brutal too of course.
17094  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Battle of the Movies: Braveheart vs Harold and Kumar: Go To White Castle on: May 29, 2009, 02:08:09 am
Oddly, this is probably my toughest call yet.  I'm going to have think on it.
17095  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: When did the libertarians become the states'-rights party? on: May 29, 2009, 02:05:20 am
At the end of the day I want the individual to be as free as possible without infringing on the freedom of other individuals.  How we get to that matters little to me.  The Federal govt of the US, in my opinion, has too much power.  For example, highway speed limits.  There is no national highway speed limit, yet the Federal govt still uses FORCE to make states fall in line.  Montana had (basically) no daytime speed limit on its highways.  The Feds didn't like it, but they couldn't do anything about it using the law.  So they threatened to withhold highway funds from Montana if they didn't get in line.  That is BS.  That, and hundreds...probably thousands of other things is why I tend to lean to the "states rights" side of things. 

But there are some things our founders thought needed to be included at the Federal level.  Not powers they have, powers WE have, powers that neither they or the states can take away from us.  Freedom to say things most people don't like.  Freedom to print things the govt and other Americans don't like.  Freedom to go worship in a way most people find odd or disturbing.  Freedom to gather in groups and discuss things most people don't like.  Freedom to ask the govt questions they might not want to answer and to not be punished for asking those questions.  The freedom to own a gun for personal defense.  The freedom to own a gun to help defend your state or nation.  The freedom to not worry that the govt can come in at anytime and rustle through your sh**t.  The right to stare down anybody that accuses you of something.  Others.  I don't want Mississippi to take away my right to say things most people find questionable.  I don't want DC to take away my right to defend myself, but if DC wants to have free medical care for all?  GREAT!  More power to 'em.  As long as they don't ask the people of Maine to pay for it.  If Cali wants to give free education to everybody, but only until they are 14, GREAT!  More power to 'em.  But they (Cali) shouldn't be able to take away my right to own a gun that's never been used in a crime inside the state, and if they do (and they have) I will bitch and moan about it (and I have).

Bottom line, libertarians (big L or little l, right leaning or left leaning) are not the states'-rights party anymore than we are the "guns" party or the "full of nuts" party.  We are the "peoples'-rights" party.


(I also wanted to mention the trial and error part of "states' rights" but couldn't find a good place to work it in.  I like the idea that Minnesota can try something that the rest of the country doesn't have to try.  If it works in Minn, maybe it will work in Nebraska too, or something like it.  Maybe Iowa can take what Minn did and tweak it a little and it will work even better in Iowa.  Maybe it wouldn't work at all in Florida, so they try something else down there and fails miserably.  Texas was thinking about doing what Florida did, but now knows it should look at a different solution.  Some things can work amazingly well at one place and be a total non-starter at another location.  Many many things should be taken care of at the most local level possible, but not everything...obviously.  And any libertarian that tells you otherwise hasn't thought his way through it yet.)
17096  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Stop the Ignorance! on: May 29, 2009, 01:30:37 am
Throwing rocks at illegitimate squatters (oops I mean settlers), or police is not taking part in a fight, at least not to a level which makes one deserving of death.
Having rocks thrown at you is unpleasant obviously, but saying that doing so makes one some sort of combatant and a legitimate target for lethal force sounds pretty cold-hearted to me unless you think it's legitimate to open fire on schoolchildren doing it on a playground.
No, throwing rocks shouldn't lead to a death sentence....but if a person is so funking stupid that they throw rocks at people armed with guns, Darwin tells me that person shouldn't be breeding.  Especially if the person throwing the rocks knows the person holding the gun hates them.  I can't think of a dumber thing to do than throw rocks at them.  Maybe running directly at them with things that look like bombs attached to you....that would be dumber I guess.  Pulling things out of your pockets that look like guns, that would be dumber too.
17097  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: oh louisiana. on: May 29, 2009, 01:21:48 am
Sure.  Large hurdles to jump over to have access to either....as there should be.
17098  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Issue, part 59 on: May 28, 2009, 11:42:32 pm
Of course.
17099  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: It's getting uglier on: May 28, 2009, 11:34:32 pm
Why do you think they hate us, and who is "they"?
17100  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: It's getting uglier on: May 28, 2009, 11:28:05 pm
And some of you still think they hate us because of our "freedoms".
How do these people that hate us feel about stoning rape victims?
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