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17101  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Next Step in Totalitarian Environmentalism on: May 28, 2008, 12:05:47 pm
If it's not going to happen, great.  Another level of govt dodged.


And we all agree the idea would be stupid?
17102  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Strip club tax proposed by PA Republican! on: May 28, 2008, 12:02:58 pm
This is one of the main reasons I stopped being a Republican.  They hate freedom as much as the Democrats.
17103  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Next Step in Totalitarian Environmentalism on: May 28, 2008, 08:01:19 am
Oh that's right.  If it's from the wrong paper it can't possibly be true.
17104  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What is the difference between liberal and "progressive"? on: May 28, 2008, 07:59:11 am
For example, here, electric and telephone service are provided by cooperatives, which is a limited form of socialism, in that the ventures, rather than being owned by the whole community, are owned by the individuals that take part in the program.  Profits are shared among members.  Food and agricultural cooperatives are also very common here.
Which is one of the great points for a more liberal (in a traditional sense) society and against a socialist one.  You can be socialist and do socialistic things in a liberal society, the reverse is certainly not true.
17105  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Previous Poster's Most Memorable Moment on the Forum on: May 28, 2008, 06:38:17 am
Hillary hacking I guess
17106  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: You know what would have been funny... on: May 28, 2008, 06:35:22 am
Did I miss something?
17107  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: who here wants to be my forum rival on: May 28, 2008, 06:33:42 am
i need an arch rival

someone that would be

the sherlock holmes to my moriarty

the augustus to my mark antony

the speed racer to my racer x

i could go on

but i won't
You want a good guy to your bad guy?  No thanks.  I'm a bad guy too. 

I'd like a nemesis too though, where do I sign up?
17108  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Can you walk anywhere from your house? on: May 28, 2008, 06:30:14 am
I thought you lived in Michigan not Siberia? Smiley

Anyway, I can walk to a McDonalds and to a couple of 3 parks.  If I want to walk a little further and down some pretty busy streets, I can get to grocery stores and gas stations and department stores and several more fast food places.
17109  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Next Step in Totalitarian Environmentalism on: May 28, 2008, 06:22:49 am
Wow.  You get the government you deserve I guess.
17110  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mascot Politics on: May 28, 2008, 06:21:18 am
This is in a foreign language to the lefties that enjoy their black mascots.
17111  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Unions:we've killed industry in this country, up next small cities! on: May 28, 2008, 06:17:52 am
What garbage.  Unions never killed any industry - even without unions the cost of living in the US means you have to pay your workers $10-15/hour or they will die and not return to work.  In the more slave-labour countries the wage is maybe $1/hour at most.  There is no way unions had any effect on the destruction of industry in america other than perhaps angering the powerful owners who resent any minute infringement on their power.

Or, perhaps, that business managers made too many expensive mistakes during the 1960s and 1970s to maintain the solvency of their businesses, such as inflation-indexed pay raises and defined pensions for unionized employees.

No, they moved the jobs to the slave countries.  If there were no slaves being forced to work for $1/hour or whatever it is, these workers who fought for some political power could make their decent living - $35/hour or so.
Only if we made sure we couldn't import anything close to what that guy was making for $35.  For example, if you wanted an American factory making lawnmowers and wanted to pay everybody in the factory at least $35 an hour you'd have to make sure lawnmowers made in Mexico (because they're only making $9 an hour) didn't get in.   And then BAM, we're all stuck paying $800 for what was a $130 lawnmower.  The only way your theory could even last a year would be if you froze ALL imports of anything that could be made in the US.  Do you really want that?  Do you think that would be the best for America and Americans?

Take a macro economics class at your local community college, it would help a lot.
17112  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Fat people have a hard time at work new studies find on: May 27, 2008, 09:53:40 am
If every workplace had tall, lean white males, productivity would be so much better and the economy would be just fantastic!  RRRRRIIIGGGGHTTTTT.  Auschwitz anyone?

Uh...I really don't think that's a good comparison.

It's not (as most comparisons to the Holocaust won't be), but this thread is also full of disturbing comments.

I think people just need a group to hate, someone to pick on.  Right now fat people are an easy target (and before anyone mentions that eating habits are a choice, I suspect that many of the people making these self-superior statements will agree that targeting people on the basis of their religion is off-limits - an interesting contradiction).

What did the obese ever do to you, dead0man?  I'm not saying you can't say what you want about fat people.  I'm merely questioning your wisdom in doing so.
Other than "tubbies", which I allready said was a mistake, how am I being unfair to the obese?  I don't hate fat people, I'm related to a few of them.  I'm not saying fat people shouldn't be fat, it's their choice.  They have to deal with the consequences of their choice though, just like everybody else. 

And I'll make fun of any religion, including yours and mine.
17113  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Interesting stats from BAN on: May 26, 2008, 08:20:47 pm
Can the two party system survive the information age?
17114  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of my church on: May 26, 2008, 05:03:53 pm
Hey, if you and your god are good with it, who am I to say "boo"?
17115  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of my church on: May 26, 2008, 03:06:31 pm
So you'll use the church, you just won't help pay for it?  Have you made it clear to the clergy what you are doing and why?
17116  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who would you most like to watch your kids? on: May 26, 2008, 01:39:27 pm
Obama.
17117  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of my church on: May 26, 2008, 12:44:05 pm
They raised up a bunch of money (around $10,000), and despite the fact that there are people just down the street living in extreme poverty, they built a big monument to the "victims of abortion" in the cemetery.  They spent thousands on this monument that does nothing rather than giving food to poor people.

No wonder I have never and never will give them a dime.
Amazing.
17118  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your opinion of pork-barrel spending? on: May 26, 2008, 12:36:51 pm
Pork is an absolute evil.

Man are you missing out... sooooo delicious.
mmmm pork shoulders...ham...bacon...ribs.  Any religion that fears the pig isn't one for me.

Pork barrel spending is of course wrong and is one of the biggest problems in DC.
17119  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: If you won the lottery... on: May 25, 2008, 08:04:55 pm
I'd probably sit on my ass and do nothing for the rest of my life.  of course I'd never be dumb enough to play the lottery so the point is moot.
Lotteries are a tax on people that are bad at math.
17120  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Fat people have a hard time at work new studies find on: May 25, 2008, 09:07:40 am
hahahah  You don't think owners and HR are individuals?  Odd, but not surprising.
17121  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Teacher lets students vote fellow child out of class on: May 25, 2008, 08:20:48 am
Wow, what a sh**tty teacher. 
17122  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather be blind or deaf? on: May 25, 2008, 07:26:06 am
No way, deaf all the way.  You can DRIVE when your deaf.  You can watch a movie if your deaf.  You can look at naked ladies if your deaf.
17123  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: The Great Global Warming Poll on: May 25, 2008, 07:21:52 am
Are there any climate scientists on this forum?  If so, please speak up and offer your expert opinion.

If not, we must all defer to the consensus of climatologists, which is that the world is warming at an alarming rate, caused primarily by human burning of fossil fuels.

Except no such consensus exists. At best I think it can be argued that the general consensus is that the Earth is warming and that humans have a part in it, though not necessarily at an alarming rate or primarily due to human burning of fossil fuels.
No, you're wrong.  The IPCC Report represents the consensus of scientific thought.
<snicker>
17124  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Favorite Kennedy? on: May 25, 2008, 07:21:13 am
i think his passion for the underclass and the underdog is genuine.
I don't know, his passion for the upperclass and the topdogs is pretty genuine too.
17125  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Unions:we've killed industry in this country, up next small cities! on: May 25, 2008, 07:19:39 am
What garbage.  Unions never killed any industry - even without unions the cost of living in the US means you have to pay your workers $10-15/hour or they will die and not return to work.  In the more slave-labour countries the wage is maybe $1/hour at most.  There is no way unions had any effect on the destruction of industry in america other than perhaps angering the powerful owners who resent any minute infringement on their power.

Basically what you libertarians are saying is that we must accept a $1/hour lifestyle or we are 'destroying industry', completely ignoring the fact that the owners are the ones making all the decisions.  Can't you people see that only owners have power in the US?  Why do you think this should be the absolute and only way to do things?  You just accept enslavement without the slightest intellectual questioning.
It's so awesome when you show how litle you know.  It keeps the time I need to invest in responding low.  Thank you.
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