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17101  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: How would it affect America Politcs if- on: August 19, 2008, 01:05:47 am
Assuming these are actually three different questions.....
We had proof of an alien civilization
Nothing much.  Both sides would be wanting to put more into NASA/whatever would be replacing NASA.
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we were contacted by an alien civilization
It would really depend on how threatening the contact seemed.  Everything would hinge on what the message was and how we interpreted it.
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we were attacked by an alien civilization, but someone repelled the invaders...
Same as the first....both parties would be wanting to put more money into space based technologies.

The biggest change would be a religious one.  Solid proof of aliens would lead many to question their religion.
17102  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Godwin's Thread on: August 18, 2008, 04:10:38 am
God Damned conservatives always using the power of govt to screw over the poor!  We should all learn a lesson here and vote Democratic, they'd never do something like that.

Nah.. conservatives just use the power of corporations... to which the poor are completely powerless.  At least here they can show up to the city council meetings and bitch.
Yeah, we've done this before.  Corporations are so much more horrible than govts, you'd show me examples, but it's just so obvious right?
I haven't heard about many governments purposefully dumping toxic waste near aquifers like say, Metalclad. Or putting plastic into puppy chow. Or any of the other crap you hear about in the news (or not). The truth is both big business and government are potentially oppressive, and they have a tendency to collude together. That's why there need to be simple, clearly defined and impartial rules on both.
And govts have killed many hundreds of millions of people (not even counting war) in the last hundred years through incompetence alone.  Add in malice and you've got another few hundred million dead and that's still not counting wars.  How many people have corporations killed in the same time frame?  How many corporations have sicked dogs on black people?  How many Jews have been shoved into ovens by the phone company?
I just noticed this.  FUNNY!

(such a small part of my argument though, but hey, if that's the best you can find...)
17103  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Fantasy Football on: August 18, 2008, 04:05:50 am
Link no worky
17104  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Comedy Goldmine VII: Straight-to-DVD Christmas Special on: August 18, 2008, 04:02:49 am
The Goldmine always caves in when we decide to debate while inside.
It's a joke thread in the first place, why do we care if it gets "off topic"?  If any thread should have the ability to go off topic it should be joke threads.
17105  General Discussion / History / Re: Revenge of Presidential Survivor : Round sixteen on: August 18, 2008, 03:50:53 am
FDR
17106  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Competitive Districting on: August 17, 2008, 04:48:04 am
Looks good to me.
17107  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: How will this shocking discovery affect turnout in Georgia? on: August 17, 2008, 04:28:56 am
Who do you reckon Bigfoot will vote for?
Ralph Nader
17108  General Discussion / History / Re: Revenge of Presidential Survivor : Round fifteen on: August 17, 2008, 03:00:15 am
Linc....nah


FDR!
17109  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you eat fried okra and purple-hulled peas with Nelda Burrow? on: August 17, 2008, 02:52:39 am
Fried okra is good if the batter is good and your dipping condiment is good.  Hell, pretty much any nasty thing can taste good if you fry it right and have something good to dip it in.  My mom used to eat picked okra.  Not horrible, but I'm not a fan of furry foods.
17110  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Who would win in a war of Russia v. The World? on: August 17, 2008, 02:50:28 am
Sure buddy.
17111  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: The Iraq War on: August 17, 2008, 01:04:15 am
If we had done a competent job of it, it would have been worth it.  As it stands now, clearly it was not worth it.
17112  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Elections Revisited: 1980 Democratic Primaries on: August 17, 2008, 01:00:38 am
Cliff Finch...because I've never heard of him.  Normally I'd wiki the guy to make sure, but the other 3 are so bad he couldn't possibly be worse or I'd of heard of the guy.

(although I am slightly concerned because nobody else is voting for the guy...oh well)
17113  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Elections Revisited: 1980 GOP Primaries on: August 17, 2008, 12:56:38 am
you forgot John Anderson
17114  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Who would win in a war of Russia v. The World? on: August 17, 2008, 12:36:49 am
Because you can't, because it's impossible.  (even if it were possible I doubt you could)  But please, continue to reaffirm to us that biases make your choices for you and not the facts of the situation.  It makes it a lot easier on me.

The fact that I typed that in all-caps should have made it fairly obvious that I was being sarcastic.
That's right...I keep forgetting caps means sarcasm on the internet. Roll Eyes
17115  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Maoist leader elected PM of Nepal on: August 16, 2008, 02:56:21 pm
I guess it does have some similarties with liberal democracies then Smiley
17116  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ethnic attacks in Georgia on: August 16, 2008, 02:11:32 pm
Kind of a loaded question don't you think?
17117  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Oil falls to three month low on: August 16, 2008, 01:59:20 pm
Yep...and?
17118  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Oil falls to three month low on: August 16, 2008, 01:26:22 pm
Some (many?) of them are.  And I agree, alt energy is the future and an excellent investment.  The company that makes the "better battery" (or buys the patent off the guy that does) will be the one to have stock in.  I like the Super Capacitor.
17119  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Oil falls to three month low on: August 16, 2008, 01:19:51 pm
It's risky sure, but the guys that bought oil in 2008 ten years ago for $60/barrel (or whatever) are laughing all the way to the Porsche dealership.
17120  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ethnic attacks in Georgia on: August 16, 2008, 01:14:47 pm
One of the reasons the Soviets backed down in Cuba was because they did have the ability to strike us beyond the coasts.

How many of the current thousands are ready to fire/go?

And yes, we should have helped Hungary break free of Soviet control in 1956.  We shouldn't have stopped fighting totalitarianism at the end of WWII in the first place.  Stalin killed ten's of millions (if not hundreds of millions) that wouldn't have died if we were not tired of fighting 1945.  I understand why stopped, I just don't think it was the right decision.
17121  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Oil falls to three month low on: August 16, 2008, 12:45:34 pm
The people making millions on it disagree.  link
17122  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Why are Phknrocket1k and Boss Tweed no longer Democrats? on: August 16, 2008, 10:31:17 am
Right.  Which is why people shouldn't use words so carelessly.  I always use the example of Gulag.  GITMO, no matter how bad it might be, is no Gulag.  Not even close.  Calling it that is an insult to everybody that suffered and died in the real Gulags.  Or what the righties have done to the word Liberal.
17123  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Why are Phknrocket1k and Boss Tweed no longer Democrats? on: August 16, 2008, 08:18:10 am
Maybe "neocon" isn't the word he'd use to describe himself?  It seems to be a label lefties toss around to anybody they don't agree with.  It's the same way all Vietnam Vets were "baby killers".
17124  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: When's the next time the world's map is redrawn? on: August 16, 2008, 07:53:59 am
Right, some of them are beholden to countries that have them.
17125  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ethnic attacks in Georgia on: August 16, 2008, 07:51:21 am
Sure.  He was still a lot more of a "hawk" than the ladies in this thread have been.  Add in that the Russians were a lot stronger in '63 than they are now, especially in the nuke's department and it just becomes that much more annoying.  There was a LOT more on the line then than now.  We wouldn't be destroyed today, even in any reasonable "worst case" scenario.  There was no way we wouldn't have been destroyed in '63 if we went to war (unless Russia's ICBMs had a ridiculously high failure rate, which was/is possible).

I'm in no way suggesting we should invade Russia next week.  I'm just disappointed in the lack of a frim response from the leaders in the West over this.
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