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17101  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Poll: 7% of Americans marry for health insurance on: May 01, 2008, 02:46:38 am
Shenanigans.

There is no way in hell 7% of adult Americans got married last year for insurance purposes.  That would 12.6 million people (or 6.3 million marriages).  Just last year.  My ass.

The thread title is inaccurate. The story said 7% know somebody. Big difference!
It said "7 percent of Americans said they or someone in their household decided to marry in the past year so they could obtain health care benefits via their spouse.".  I still call shenanigans on it.
17102  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Poll: 7% of Americans marry for health insurance on: May 01, 2008, 01:58:44 am
Shenanigans.

There is no way in hell 7% of adult Americans got married last year for insurance purposes.  That would 12.6 million people (or 6.3 million marriages).  Just last year.  My ass.
17103  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should I run for city commission? on: May 01, 2008, 01:13:24 am
Does it pay?  How much time will it require?

Meetings are once every two weeks and last 2 or 3 hours. So it doesn't seem like it would be a huge investment of time, though of course I'd want to get involved in other community organizations as well.

I believe it does pay some minimal amount like $1,000/year. The connections and name recognition would be worth it alone though, I'd think.
Then go for it.  I was concerned it might be one of those deals that take 20 or 30 hours a week to do but only a pays a $2000/year or something.
17104  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should I run for city commission? on: May 01, 2008, 12:44:30 am
Does it pay?  How much time will it require?
17105  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: police acquitted in murder of Sean Bell on: April 30, 2008, 11:53:57 pm
Hey, facts, logic and reasoning have no place in this thread.  It's about cops damn it.  We all knew they were guilty as soon as the story broke.
17106  General Discussion / History / Re: Who is the most underrated President in history? on: April 30, 2008, 11:45:26 pm
LBJ.

He accomplished a lot. A whole lot. His term was the culmination of the great liberal movement, when it actually stood for things worth standing for, like civil rights, before it became indelibly associated with pot-smoking Communist college students, an association it has still not fully lost. On the home front, he did more than any President since Lincoln (other than FDR).

What does he get remembered for? Vietnam.
Yeah, that little thing.  The thing that makes Iraq look like Grenada.
17107  General Discussion / History / Re: Was the expulsion of Germans from east of the Oder-Neisse justified? on: April 30, 2008, 11:39:31 pm
Are you saying they didn't live like kings or they weren't communist leaders?
17108  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Do left wing Christians have an almost flawless history? on: April 30, 2008, 11:36:45 pm
Uh, the guy who tried to take down Jones was a Congressman from SAN FRANCISCO. I don't think a left winger would be opposed by the Representative of San Francisco.
How'd your foot taste?
17109  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Is owning a gun a basic human right? on: April 30, 2008, 11:12:33 pm
Let's just all give kids guns at age 6 when they're starting kindergarten. Then we'll all be safe. Problem solved, time for some pie.

I thought you were better than that.  I'm not sure why I though that.  I'll stop now.
17110  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Is owning a gun a basic human right? on: April 30, 2008, 11:11:57 pm
No, of course owning something detrimental to society is not a right.  If there were fewer guns in society, there wouldn't be a need for guns as a means for self-defense.

Guns aren't the problem. They are just a result of the problem. Even if guns were completely abolished on all levels of government, and neither criminals nor law enforcement officers would have access to them, they would just be substituted by weaker weapons, such as knives.
That would be far preferable.
Tell that to this lady.
17111  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Battle of the Senators round 1, vote 5 on: April 30, 2008, 11:07:24 pm
Why no love for Nelson?
17112  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Battle of the countries: QUARTEFINALS - Switzerland vs Ireland on: April 30, 2008, 11:05:46 pm
Great economic rights (with sh**tty gun rights) versus great gun rights (and pretty decent economic freedoms)?  hmmmm  Switzerland I guess.
17113  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Thirty years from now... on: April 30, 2008, 10:57:15 pm
Yes, it is still perfectly socially acceptable to hate gays, blacks, and women, contrary to what right-wingers would have us believe with their moaning about 'political correctness'.
"socially acceptable" doesn't mean what you think it means.
17114  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What's the last movie you've seen? on: April 30, 2008, 09:27:39 am
I'm in the middle of Annie Hall.  Woody just said "My grandma didn't give gifts, she was to busy getting raped by Cossaks" and I thought I was going to die laughing.  I totally was not expecting that.  So far it's been a lot better than I expected.
17115  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: History of private education on: April 30, 2008, 09:07:02 am
Competition tends to have a positive effect on overall quality through simple market mechanisms.
beautiful
17116  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What's the last movie you've seen? on: April 30, 2008, 02:37:50 am
Galaxy Quest.  It still kicks ass.
17117  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What television rating would you give the preceding poster? on: April 30, 2008, 12:03:12 am
TV-PG S L D
17118  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: I'm sick of everyone trying to paint Arkansas as a liberal state on: April 29, 2008, 11:37:20 pm
I'm sick of everyone trying to paint Arkansas as a liberal state
cite?
17119  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Thirty years from now... on: April 29, 2008, 10:01:25 pm
There is no way a gay man will win the Presidency in the next 100 years.  At least not one that's "out".  We'd elect a lady Ethiopian Jew first.
17120  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The most interesting place that you've... on: April 29, 2008, 09:47:19 pm
Two of 'em actually.

I pissed in my church's kitchen sink when I was 16 or so (even kept the stopper in so as to prove I did it to my friends).

Aerosmith concert in St.Louis, summer of '93 (Eat the Rich tour).  It was supposed to be Megadeath opening for them but Mustaine and Tyler didn't get along back stage so up and comers Jackyl had replaced them on the 2nd half of the tour.  Anyway, after Jackyl's set I went to take a leak.  Long line at the port-a-potties.  Aerosmith starts.  All the dudes start running to behind the port-a-potties to take a leak.  I follow.  Right after I get started some cops (or rent-a-cops I don't remember) come up behind us (thankfully there is a chain link fence between us) and tell us to stop pissing on the backs of the port-a-potties.  Of course I take the longest piss in history and am the last dude back there.

...I've pissed while driving a few times.
17121  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gas Price Relief...is it possible? on: April 29, 2008, 09:27:31 pm
If gas is four bucks a gallon, and the oil companies are reaping almost unimagineable profits, what am I missing here?  I understand that they have to make a profit...that's business.  But there's profit and there's shameless gouging of the public. 

Exxon Mobil made 40 (B) billion in 2007.  Numbers in the first quarter of this year appear to be ahead of last year's pace.  And it looks to be the same for nearly all the other major oil companies.  Now, am I supposed to believe that on $4.00 a gallon, Exxon's costs are $3.50 a gallon...and then the .50 cent profit has to be split with service stations?  Something like that?  When I ask if I am missing something here, I'm being serious -- I could be.  But if that's the case, where are these massive earnings coming from?

They keep telling us they need to increase the price of gas because this refinery is closed, because there's violence in Nigeria, because Hugo Chavez is acting squirrelly or because that refinery is at half capacity...we hear different explanations all the time.  But if these are painful expenses for oil companies, wouldn't the pain show in their bottom line?

I'm just a solo proprietorship -- self employed, etc.  So I probably don't have a clue.  But something isn't adding up here.

What it SEEMS like, is that they are making shocking amounts of money (profit), claiming hard times and laughing at all the idiots who they have over a barrel.
I'm still trying to figure out why you hate the enviroment.
17122  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Cop Stops Suicide by Killing the Guy on: April 29, 2008, 09:25:04 pm
The question is why they are trained to shoot to kill.
Because they are also trained not to shoot unless they or somebody else is in danger.  Leg and "hand" shots are Hollywood (other than some extreme, Police Sniper type situations).  Cops are trained to stop the immidiate threat as quickly as possible.  Shooting somebody in the leg isn't going to do that.
17123  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Will the IOC let a country like China host the Olympics again? on: April 29, 2008, 12:10:23 am
I don't think the IOC care about that type of lesson.

Thankfully, the list of countries with human rights records like China which are seriously capable of hosting the Olympics is fairly limited.
China hasn't proven they are capable of holding the Olympics yet.
17124  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Bin Laden's deputy says Iran trying to undermine al-Qaida on: April 29, 2008, 12:08:37 am
And there are people on this forum who think that Iran was behind the 9/11 attacks!
Cite?

Love it.
Que?  I'm still waiting for a cite.  I guess he was wrong?
17125  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gas Price Relief...is it possible? on: April 29, 2008, 12:06:13 am
So what would you do, if you had the power, to bring gas prices down?  What do you think of the various ideas put forth so far?  I'm thinking shorter term, here.  Like this summer.

Any ideas?  Or are we better served, over the long haul, by allowing gas prices to keep climbing?
I thought we wanted to use LESS gas...to save the planet.  Global Warming and all that.  Right?  Al Gore, we're all going to die, polar bears and rain forrests.  Cheaper gas isn't going to make that happen.
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