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17101  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Emo on: August 09, 2008, 07:42:06 pm
Sure.  And that's why I liked them.  But it still pisses "real" punks off when people call them "punk".  You'd get your ass kicked if you wore a Blink 182 shirt to a, say, Pennywise show.  Even if it was a Buddha shirt.

Not anymore. It actually became cool to like Blink 182 about 4-5 years ago, then it became "ironic" and thus it was then acceptable and cool.
Aye, that would seem to make sense.  I still wouldn't wear one out in public.
17102  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: So Russia and Georgia just went to war on: August 09, 2008, 07:37:23 pm
I wonder if this will help a few people decide who side they're going to be on in this:
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Georgian tanks and infantry, aided by Israeli military advisers, captured the capital of breakaway South Ossetia, Tskhinvali, early Friday, Aug. 8, bringing the Georgian-Russian conflict over the province to a military climax.

<snip>

DEBKAfile discloses Israel’s interest in the conflict from its exclusive military sources:

Jerusalem owns a strong interest in Caspian oil and gas pipelines reach the Turkish terminal port of Ceyhan, rather than the Russian network. Intense negotiations are afoot between Israel Turkey, Georgia, Turkmenistan and Azarbaijan for pipelines to reach Turkey and thence to Israel’s oil terminal at Ashkelon and on to its Red Sea port of Eilat. From there, supertankers can carry the gas and oil to the Far East through the Indian Ocean.

Aware of Moscow’s sensitivity on the oil question, Israel offered Russia a stake in the project but was rejected.

Last year, the Georgian president commissioned from private Israeli security firms several hundred military advisers, estimated at up to 1,000, to train the Georgian armed forces in commando, air, sea, armored and artillery combat tactics. They also offer instruction on military intelligence and security for the central regime. Tbilisi also purchased weapons, intelligence and electronic warfare systems from Israel.

These advisers were undoubtedly deeply involved in the Georgian army’s preparations to conquer the South Ossetian capital Friday.

In recent weeks, Moscow has repeatedly demanded that Jerusalem halt its military assistance to Georgia, finally threatening a crisis in bilateral relations. Israel responded by saying that the only assistance rendered Tbilisi was “defensive.”

This has not gone down well in the Kremlin. Therefore, as the military crisis intensifies in South Ossetia, Moscow may be expected to punish Israel for its intervention.
17103  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Places with colors switched. on: August 09, 2008, 07:35:15 pm
That's exactly what I was going to say.  The Democrats LOVE the blue.
17104  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: If you could exile the previous poster, where would you send him/her? on: August 09, 2008, 07:32:24 pm
Bahamas (or other luxury destination of your choice)
17105  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Rate the preceedig poster's "hackishness" on a scale of 1 to 10! on: August 09, 2008, 07:27:56 pm
3.9
17106  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Priorities on: August 09, 2008, 07:26:08 pm
Option 1








Option 3




















Option 2
17107  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How 'warm' do you feel about the parties? on: August 09, 2008, 07:18:56 pm
From the year I started voting:
1992-D 11   R 75
1994-D 10   R 80
1996-D 9     R 70
1998-D 9     R 50
2000-D 7     R 30
2002-D 10   R 25
2004-D 8     R 15
2006-D 6     R 10
2008-D 14   R 15
17108  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Military Estimates on Russia-Georgia Conflict? on: August 09, 2008, 07:12:09 pm
No. The US is tied down in Iraq
The Army and Marine Corps are a bit stretched right now, but the Air Force is actually in a lot better position than they normally would be if we weren't "tied down in Iraq" and air superiority is the most important factor in modern warfare.  If we wanted to we could rule the skies over Georgia in a half an hour and have a few hundred Special Ops on the ground in less than a day.  It's not going to be lack of ability that keeps us from helping the Georgians.
17109  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: So Russia and Georgia just went to war on: August 09, 2008, 06:57:48 pm
I actually agree with StatesRights here, Putin's Russia is super manipulative and wants a large Russian sphere. I am surprised they didn't take advantage of the ethnic Russian riots in Estonia.
Thanks to them being in NATO.  If they were not, Russia would probably have done to them what they are currently doing to Georgia.  And the same people would have said that Estonia started it.
17110  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Emo on: August 09, 2008, 08:03:51 am
Sure.  And that's why I liked them.  But it still pisses "real" punks off when people call them "punk".  You'd get your ass kicked if you wore a Blink 182 shirt to a, say, Pennywise show.  Even if it was a Buddha shirt.
17111  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: So Russia and Georgia just went to war on: August 09, 2008, 07:56:42 am
But in general, Georgia plays a bit of a greater role here... and we have more public TV stations.
It is a lot closer geographically and historically.  The number of Americans who can ID Georgia on a map are in the single digits I'm sure. 

(it is confusing down there post Soviet break up.  Georgia, Armenia and  Azerbaijan all sandwhiched together and what not.)
17112  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: So Russia and Georgia just went to war on: August 09, 2008, 07:02:02 am
CNN lead off this morning with the story of an American athletes family memeber being murdered in China.  Then went on to the Edwards comedy.  After that it was the war in Georgia.
17113  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Emo on: August 09, 2008, 04:40:15 am
ahhh so it's like when punks get pissed off when regular people call bands like Blink 182 "punk"?  Only more whiney?

early blink and even some later blink was unarguably punk.  the last album really wasn't. 
Pop punk...at best.  Sadly they sold out to MTV like just any other Rage Against the Machine or Metallica.
17114  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Band v. Band on: August 09, 2008, 04:34:27 am
Queen

Black Flag vs Minor Threat
17115  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Is this guy a good guy? on: August 09, 2008, 04:07:19 am
"Vast majority" is a LOT different than all.  Especially when we're talking about killing people on the side of the road.
17116  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Is this guy a good guy? on: August 09, 2008, 03:09:20 am
"You don't become a cop because you want to serve and protect. You join the force because they let you carry a gun and a badge. You do it because you get respect. Most people respect the badge. Everyone respects the gun."
No doubt some cops join for that reason, nobody will argue against that.  But your ignorant if you think every single cop during aparthied was a racist bastards itching for a reason to beat on some "darkies".
17117  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Places with colors switched. on: August 09, 2008, 03:00:10 am
I don't think the parties "use" colors do they?  The TV news are the ones shoving that idiocy down our throats.
17118  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: So Russia and Georgia just went to war on: August 09, 2008, 02:58:18 am
It's sad to see that that the U.S. media cares much more about John Edwards and his infidelities than it does about the situation in Georgia.

Although we should expect nothing less, I suppose.
All the links in this thread have been to American news sources haven't they?  It's not shocking at all that the TV news isn't covering it.  It's been in the paper, I've heard the radio talking about it.  The internet is all a buz.  TV news sucks.
17119  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Florida in general on: August 08, 2008, 06:17:56 pm
Well yeah, they're scared of you.  I spent a good chunk of my time in Florida behind the wheel of one of these


and mine didn't look much better than that.  On the bright side, I bought it for $500, drove it for a year and a half and sold it for $350.  Great mpg too.  Kinda wish I still had it.  Great beater car.
17120  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Elections Revisited: 1972 GOP Primaries on: August 08, 2008, 06:11:51 pm
Ashbrook
17121  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Elections Revisited: 1972 Democratic Primaries on: August 08, 2008, 06:07:54 pm
McGovern I guess
17122  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Florida in general on: August 08, 2008, 05:57:50 pm
4....and I have lived there.  It's not the most overrated state in the Union (Texas or Cali would run away with that title), but it's really close.  It has the perfect storm of stereotypically bad drivers:the elderly, red necks and tourists (often from out of country or red necks themselves, thus a double whammy).

..and then there are the bugs.

Redneck is one word. Tongue And nothing is wrong with rednecks.
I note that was the only thing you corrected me on Wink
17123  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Is this guy a good guy? on: August 08, 2008, 03:10:57 pm
You're making quite a leap of logic from "people enforcing apartheid" to "every single white person in Africa"

And a person on the police force abusing blacks is NOT making things better.
Well you did say....
I don't see what's wrong with the logic that only a completely morally bankrupt person could be a cop in a place as reprehensible as South Africa under apartheid.
You're saying all cops in South Africa during apartheid were morally bankrupt and I'm saying that's much too simple and incorrect.
17124  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Donald Rumsfeld on: August 08, 2008, 03:06:35 pm
I think our amazing and swift victory in the first Gulf War persuaded them we could win all our wars quickly and relatively inexpensively. 
No war America fights is going to be cheap, at least if we're doing it the right (safe) way.  We still kicked the ass again, but it was because of the competency of the men in the field and in spite of the incompetency of the men in DC (and to a slightly lesser extent, at the Pentagon).
17125  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Emo on: August 08, 2008, 08:27:13 am
The girl with the red hair is HOT!















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