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17101  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Battle of the Movies: Clerks vs Sin City on: June 05, 2009, 08:22:23 am
Clerks and what it wrought.
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17102  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: opinions please. on: June 05, 2009, 06:08:57 am
Yeah. Any "Christian" terrorist isn't really a Christian. It's much the same way with Islam, actually. It's a crime against Allah to kill yourself (suicide bombings). Additionally, "…take not life, which God hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom" (Qur'an 6:151) and "Do not let your hatred of a people incite you to aggression" (Qur'an 5:2) are pretty clear. People who use their religions as justifications generally have a poor understanding of their religions.

and you have a poor understanding of history:

Fact 1) Jesus didn't spread his message by way of the sword.
Fact 2) Mohammad did.
Well to be fair it depends on if Mohammed was on the rag at the time or not.  When Aunt Flow was visiting Mohammed was a real dick, the rest of the time he was a great guy spreading his religion by song and poetry.

It's possible I missread something.
17103  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: Group A - World Leaders Survivor - Stage Two - Round One on: June 05, 2009, 06:01:52 am
Koroma
17104  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: Group B - World Leaders Survivor - Stage Two - Round One on: June 05, 2009, 06:00:10 am
To further spread it out.....

Banda
17105  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: A film about a few forumites... on: June 05, 2009, 05:35:40 am
Brian Posehn

I'm not freakishly tall, just normally tall and I don't wear glasses...other than that he is me.
17106  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: name one pol that you hate that everyone loves... on: June 05, 2009, 05:27:34 am
I don't think anybody in this thread understands what "everyone" means.  Does it mean anything over 50%...because even then I'm pretty sure Reagan and LBJ aren't making the "everyone loves" list.  People seem to be answering a different question....Who do you hate that a few other people really like?

(except for the Washington and Lincoln votes, but you'd have to be a special kind of asshat to vote for either)
17107  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Battle of the Movies: Clerks vs Sin City on: June 04, 2009, 10:59:49 pm
NOOOOO!!!!  I voted wrong!  I meant Clerks.
17108  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Exactly 20 years ago now... on: June 04, 2009, 09:28:45 am
There were still cameras around.
17109  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Hugo Chavez to the right of Obama on: June 04, 2009, 08:12:44 am
I have no idea, and I agree with you, the govt shouldn't have anything to do with GM...but if they must, they need to sell former GM resources and assets ASAP until the govt is paid back in full.  No company should be "too big to fail".  Maybe in a land where the govt controls the economy, but not in a free market.


(yeah yeah, we don't and have never had a truly "free market")
17110  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: For all you Libertarians: This is who Ron Paul associates himself with on: June 04, 2009, 07:52:56 am
He's wearing a Republican hat, what am I supposed to think?  I can't be expected to keep up with the goings on of everybody.
17111  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Hugo Chavez to the right of Obama on: June 04, 2009, 06:38:39 am
Has Obama placed priced controls on food?  cite

Does the US Fed own US power plants or the largest telecom or the largest steel company or the largest concrete company like Chavez's govt does? cite


Taking over one bankrupt company isn't the smartest thing Obama has done, but it  hardly moves him to the left of Chavez and Castro.



Chavez has never been confused with an honest genius.
17112  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Exactly 20 years ago now... on: June 04, 2009, 06:09:30 am
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It was exactly 20 years ago that I stood on the northwest corner of Tiananmen Square and watched “People’s China” open fire on the people.

It was night; the gunfire roared in our ears; and the Avenue of Eternal Peace was streaked with blood. Uniformed army troops massed on the far end of the square, periodically raising their assault rifles and firing volleys directly at the crowd I was in, and we would all rush backward in terror until the firing stopped.

Then the volley would end, and in the deafening silence we would stop and look back. In the hundred yards between us and the soldiers would be kids who had been shot, lying dead or wounded on the ground.

Some protesters shouted insults at the troops or threw bricks or Molotov cocktails that landed ineffectually in the open area. But none of us dared to go forward to help the injured as they writhed. I was the Beijing bureau chief for this newspaper, and I was cowering behind a layer of other people whom I hoped would absorb bullets; the notebook in my hand was stained with perspiration from fear.

Troops had already opened fire on an ambulance that had tried to collect the injured, so other ambulances kept their distance. Finally, some unlikely saviors emerged — the rickshaw drivers.

These were peasants and workers who made a living pedaling bicycle rickshaws, carrying passengers or freight around Beijing. It was those rickshaw drivers who slowly pedaled out toward the troops to collect the bodies of the dead and injured. Then they raced back to us, legs straining furiously, rushing toward the nearest hospital.

One stocky rickshaw driver had tears streaming down his cheeks as he drove past me to display a badly wounded student so that I could photograph or recount the incident. That driver perhaps couldn’t have defined democracy, but he had risked his life to try to advance it.

That was happening all over Beijing. On the old airport road that same night, truckloads of troops were entering the city from the east. A middle-aged bus driver saw them and quickly blocked the road with his bus.

Move aside, the troops shouted.

I won’t let you attack the students, the bus driver retorted defiantly.

The troops pointed their guns at the bus driver and ordered him to move the bus aside. Instead, he plucked the keys from the ignition and hurled them into the bushes beside the road to ensure that no one could drive that bus away. The man was arrested; I don’t know what happened to him.


So, 20 years later, what happened to that bold yearning for democracy? Why is China still frozen politically — the regime controls the press more tightly today than it did for much of the 1980s — even as China has transformed economically? Why are there so few protests today?

One answer is that most energy has been diverted to making money, partly because it’s a safer outlet. One of my Chinese friends explains that if he were to protest loudly, he might be arrested; if he were to protest quietly, it would be a waste of time. “I may as well just spend the time watching a pirated DVD,” he said.

Another answer is that many of those rickshaw drivers and bus drivers and others in 1989 were demanding not precisely a parliamentary democracy, but a better life — and they got it. The Communist Party has done an extraordinarily good job of managing China’s economy and of elevating economically the same people it oppresses politically.

Living standards have soared, and people in Beijing may not have the vote, but they do have an infant mortality rate that is 27 percent lower than New York City’s.

Not all is sweet: The environment is a catastrophe, an ugly nationalism is surging among some young Chinese and even nonpolitical Chinese chafe at corruption and at Web censorship (including the blocking this week of Twitter, Flickr and Hotmail). Balancing that, their children now get an education incomparably better than in earlier generations — better overall than many children get in the United States.

When you educate citizens and create a middle class, you nurture aspirations for political participation. In that sense, China is following the same path as Taiwan and South Korea in the 1980s.

In Taiwan in 1986, an ambitious young official named Ma Ying-jeou used to tell me that robust Western-style democracy might not be fully suited for the people of Taiwan. He revised his view and now is the island’s democratically elected president.

Some of my friends are Communist Party officials, and they are biding their time. We outsiders also may as well be similarly pragmatic and patient, for there’s not much we can do to accelerate this process. And as we wait, we can be inspired by those rickshaw drivers of 20 years ago.
17113  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: DCunited's signature on: June 04, 2009, 05:11:35 am
It's funny because she obviously isn't serious.  The complete opposite of this thread.
17114  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: am i the only one who finds the 'government motors' tag annoying on: June 04, 2009, 04:58:44 am
I'm pretty sure Rush wasn't the only person to notice G can stand for "govt".  It's a stupidly obvious joke.
17115  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: For all you Libertarians: This is who Ron Paul associates himself with on: June 03, 2009, 11:07:44 pm

So in order to be Libertarian or libertarian, you have to like Ron Paul?

     Not only that, but you have to like everything about him & everyone that he associates with.

Aw, a bunch of crybabies. All I was doing was letting the Libertarians know who Ron Paul associates himself with, to put his credibility in question. The majority of Libertarians actually do like Ron Paul.
Aw, somebody can't take criticism.  Republicans are so cute when they get pissy.
17116  General Politics / Economics / Re: GM = bankrupt on: June 03, 2009, 05:31:38 pm
Best engine, ever:

Beautiful.  3 moving parts.  THREE.  Smooth.  Sure it's weak at low RPM and it drinks gas like frat boy drinks beer, but get it above 5 grand and she'll sing.  They don't weigh anything compared to how much power they put out.  But they aint for everybody.


17117  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How old are you? on: June 03, 2009, 02:30:35 pm
Just hit 36 a few weeks ago.
17118  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Will Moldova hit Transnistria any time soon? on: June 03, 2009, 11:45:46 am
I'd support that as well.
17119  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Will Moldova hit Transnistria any time soon? on: June 03, 2009, 10:32:56 am
Really, you're just going to blame Moldova in this and not mention Russia once?  How shocking coming from you.  Anyway, link
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Russian military stationed in the region (14th Army) were removed from the main part of Moldova by January 1993, but remain to this day east of the Dniester in the breakaway region, despite signing international obligations to withdraw, and against the will of Moldovan government.[4][5] One such obligation was undertaken at the 1999 OSCE summit in Istanbul to withdraw the Russian troops and ammunition within 3 years, a promise reiterated at the next summit in Porto in 2003.

Now, are you arguing for Transnistria independence?  A return to Moscow rule?  Against Moldova?
17120  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Will Moldova hit Transnistria any time soon? on: June 03, 2009, 09:09:23 am
Unwanted Russian military in your country isn't an act of aggression?
17121  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the Preceding Poster's Signature Thread IV on: June 03, 2009, 07:15:37 am
A little too red and way too Romney.
17122  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Meat grown in a test tube on: June 03, 2009, 05:10:24 am
I can't believe this thread has gone on this long without a good "meat" in "tube" joke.  I'll start....

I had my meat in a tube once....no, that's not it....What did the meat say to the tube?....no, there is a better one than that....How much meat can you stick in a tube?  six inches, everything else is just wasted meat.....no, I can do better than that....How many inches of meat can you stick in an empty test tube?  One, after that it's not empty anymore.

I'm not very good at this.
17123  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Bigotry towards whites on: June 03, 2009, 05:05:22 am
Code:
I like the current insanity trend in this thread, but is the bad coding part of the fun or something else?
17124  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: For all you Libertarians: This is who Ron Paul associates himself with on: June 03, 2009, 03:06:03 am
Apparently.  Don't you know all libertarians are the exact same, just like Republicans are the exact same and all Democrats are the exact same and....

I don't know why people here are so ignorant about libertarians.  You'd think they would know more than your average American on the subject, but no, they are just as stupid.  Just wait until they start telling us how much we love anarchy again....
17125  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Issue, part 61 on: June 03, 2009, 02:15:35 am
4thed
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