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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Political Correctness and Communism on: January 19, 2017, 06:18:41 am
I'm not sure there's a direct correlation. However, I will say I think the left has lost their minds a bit on identity politics. Hillary Clinton would have won the election had she run as her husband's campaign of 1996. Of course, her husband's '96 campaign said "We should end Welfare as we know it", and "The era of big government is over". He signed the DOMA that year, and also received FOP police endorsements for his tough on crime stances.

Everything I just described is now considered "racist", "homophobic" and "intolerant" by the left of today's Democratic Party.

I think the problem that has liberals in meltdown right now is that America didn't vote for their vision. They made Donald Trump out as "deplorable, racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynistic, ect....and America responded by electing him with over 300 electoral votes.

That means either A.) American's didn't buy into the Democratic logic or B.) Americans didn't care.

Either way, it's an agonizing defeat for liberals and they don't know how to deal with that.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SCOTUS-Watch: Trump to make pick within two weeks on: January 19, 2017, 12:44:46 am
Skyes would be good, but Pryor is younger. Theoretically he could be on the court for 40 years.
3  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: what cultural events marked the end or beginning of a decade? on: January 13, 2017, 08:52:52 am
This is fun but tough to make some decisions.

1900s
Begin: Spanish–American War, McKinley assassination, Teddy Roosevelt Era
End: Titanic sinking, Wilson elected

1910s
Begin: WW1
End: Harding Elected, Return to "Normalcy"

1920s
Begin: Roaring 20s, Harding dies, Coolidge Presidency
End: Crash of '29

1930s
Begin: Great Depression, Roosevelt elected
End: Hitler invades Poland '39, WW2 begins

1940s
Begin: WW2, Pearl Harbor
End: Korean War begins

1950s
Begins: IKE elected
Ends: Castro revolution, Kennedy elected

1960s
Begins: JFK, Cuban Missile Crisis
Ends: Woodstock, Nixon elected

1970s
Begins: Kent State, Vietnam
Ends: End of Carter Presidency, Economic downturn, "Crisis of Confidence"

1980s
Begins: Reagan elected
Ends: Berlin Wall falls

1990s
Begins: Clinton elected, 1992 culture change (End of 80s sitcoms, 80s music, Reagan/Bush era)
Ends: Y2K

2000s
Begins: September 11, 2001
Ends: Election of Obama

2010s
Begins: Bin laden killed, tech age
Ends: TBD (Trump Era?)
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump News Conference Commentary on: January 13, 2017, 07:38:46 am
Kinda smart move by Trump. If it's Trump vs. the Media, the American Public will take Trump over them. Media has been hated for years, it's only gotten worse.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: So... why did Hillary lose Florida? on: January 06, 2017, 12:28:05 am
Trump gained across the board in all demographics.  Obama won FL in 2012 by less than a point.  Trump's win in FL isn't all that remarkable. 

That's what made my prediction (Clinton winning 278-260) not half as bad as others, because I always saw Trump's results as Romney+some. For example, I knew he'd probably hold Romney's states and gain Ohio and Iowa for sure. NC was tight but I was confident.

My thought was, "If Mitt Romney can tie Florida with Obama, Trump could narrowly win it".

I always saw him as a stronger general election candidate than Romney.
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Free Radio: First Official Release (Interview w/ Bacon King) on: January 01, 2017, 09:39:34 pm
I'd be very interested in an interview.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What Kind of Conservatism Does FOX Shill For? on: January 01, 2017, 03:21:48 pm
Who cares.  The average O'Reilly show viewer is 72 years old.  That's how irrelevant these people are.

I watch FOX News every night. You kinda get cozy with the hosts. I love "The Five", I watch Special Report with Bret Baier sometimes, I always watch Bill O'Reilly and then usually "The Kelly File" at 9pm.

Explains much; none of it flattering.

But I was right about the election and many who lambasted me for my ways were incorrect. So perhaps my style has my finger more on the pulse of America than you would like to think?

Yes, and what happens when you mis-forecast the next election or the one after that? Will you still claim to be the oracular guru you are today?

You were right, sure. But please stop thinking Fox News is the vanguard of the future or has some pulse on American thought (notably: Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million. This is not "pulse of America," this is "winning by drawing an inside straight.")

Yeah. She won by 3 million, 2.4 million of which was from Los Angeles County.

8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What Kind of Conservatism Does FOX Shill For? on: December 30, 2016, 03:43:26 pm
Who cares.  The average O'Reilly show viewer is 72 years old.  That's how irrelevant these people are.

I watch FOX News every night. You kinda get cozy with the hosts. I love "The Five", I watch Special Report with Bret Baier sometimes, I always watch Bill O'Reilly and then usually "The Kelly File" at 9pm.

Explains much; none of it flattering.

But I was right about the election and many who lambasted me for my ways were incorrect. So perhaps my style has my finger more on the pulse of America than you would like to think?
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What Kind of Conservatism Does FOX Shill For? on: December 30, 2016, 02:13:42 pm
Who cares.  The average O'Reilly show viewer is 72 years old.  That's how irrelevant these people are.

I watch FOX News every night. You kinda get cozy with the hosts. I love "The Five", I watch Special Report with Bret Baier sometimes, I always watch Bill O'Reilly and then usually "The Kelly File" at 9pm.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: First Presidential Inauguration You Watched on: December 27, 2016, 08:33:54 pm
Clinton 1993. I remember sitting infront of the TV with my sisters and our dog, Chelsea.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary's concession on: December 27, 2016, 01:08:30 am
He was quite gracious. If I had been there I would have told them to blare "Don't Stop" by Fleetwood Mac as he came onstage just as a little final F.U. to the Clintons. But that would have been rather cruel.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Are you going to watch Trump's Inaugural Address? on: December 23, 2016, 12:14:45 pm
Of course. I've watched every inaugural.

I'm kind of saddened how many red avatars say they won't watch the inaugural address of a new President. I watch them all, regardless of who I vote for.
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Good News: MTV came up with some New Year's Resolutions for white men (video) on: December 20, 2016, 07:28:19 am
This is going to be a long eight years for them.
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary's concession on: December 19, 2016, 02:55:08 pm
I watched the results on FOX and saw his number reach 222 as he won Florida, Ohio and then 232 as he won Wisconsin and then 254 when he won Iowa and Georgia.

Arizona was clearly in his favor, I'm quite surprised that wasn't called. He would have been at 265. Alaska was going for Trump which would have been 268 and he had a clear lead in the Maine electoral vote. So I knew once Wisconsin was called by Fox News that the worst case for Trump was 269-269 tie, thus a Trump Presidency.

I flipped channels and was surprised no other network had called Wisconsin.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Were the exit polls really that favorable to Hillary? on: December 18, 2016, 05:14:34 am
I might have missed some, but the exit polls I saw in the afternoon showed overwhelmingly Americans chose "Strong Leader" as their #1 preference. I assumed that favored Trump.

Also, 46% said move in a "more conservative" direction. 46% isn't a majority, but a helluva good amount.

I actually was somewhat optimistic about those exit polls. Granted, those were the only ones I read before taking a nap and then turning on TV to watch results.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic Party's Future: Patriotism on: December 18, 2016, 05:11:23 am
The problem liberals have is that they have empty rhetoric.

For example, they say they "support the troops". Do they really?

They don't support the wars they fight, or the guns they shoot, they're willing to cast votes against funding for them as a sign of an anti-war vote (2007). They don't support the candidates that overwhelmingly win the votes of the troops.

Do they really "support the troops"? No. It's empty rhetoric and many people (Yes, mostly
no–nonsense old-fashioned white voters) don't fall for it anymore. Even in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump hits John King (CNN): "They were sweating and choking like dogs on Nov. 8" on: December 18, 2016, 05:01:53 am
He deserves to gloat after how CNN treated him. Screw them.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Should we have expected this result? on: December 17, 2016, 01:25:04 pm
One thing that the media keeps getting wrong is that they keep saying "rural" in describing the regions that took Trump over the line. I actually think it was suburban areas.

White people are WAY less politically correct. So grabbing by the you-know-what was excused in a Bill Clinton-type manner. (Meh, we kinda figured that anyways...it was 11 years ago, private conversation, ect)

The only people moved by it were extreme PC people, feminists, and well...Hillary Clinton voters.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic Party's Future: Patriotism on: December 17, 2016, 01:18:32 pm
Maybe in an ideological sense they can be patriotic, presenting themselves as defending liberal values worldwide, once they resolve a few contradictions.

In a cultural sense, never. As long as the Democratic establishment favors globalization and social atomization they can not successfully pull off a "patriotic" image.


This.

I recommend all Democrats who hope to win the White House again read this article. it explains their problem coming off as less patriotic.

http://nypost.com/2015/02/21/sure-obama-loves-america-just-not-the-america-we-live-in/

"In Prague, he said America has “a moral responsibility to act” on arms control because only the US had “used a nuclear weapon,” as though winning a war that Japan started was shameful."

"Obama’s famous view of American exceptionalism — “I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism” — is curiously qualified: When you ask a mom whether she thinks her baby is cute, you expect to hear, “Of course!” not a reflection on the nature of subjectivity."

Basically, if today's liberals had their way we wouldn't have had this:


or this


Or even this:


Would modern day liberals have even supported the American Revolution?
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Accepting my accolades on: December 15, 2016, 06:14:06 am
Congrats, Naso.

I have to say, I screwed up. My gut was saying "Trump's going to pull this off," and my head was saying that it was all sewn up for Clinton after the first debate. I listened to my head and not my gut. This was clearly a huge mistake, and I will try to adjust to our new Trump reality by ignoring my head and trusting my gut in the future.

Right from the get-go, this election felt like it was 100% all about Trump. How many elections have we had that were all about one candidate that saw that candidate end up losing?

To refresh memories, I was not a Trump supporter. I wanted Marco Rubio. When Rubio had no chance in the Ohio Primary, I voted for my Governor John Kasich. But once Trump was the GOP nominee, I backed him as our party's nominee. Everyone around me voted for him, or at the very least refused to vote for Hillary Clinton. I live in suburban northeast Ohio so I understood how terrible that was for Hillary Clinton.

The first thought that I had in my mind that Trump was going to be President was after the Paris Terrorist Attacks. I was at work looking up at the news and thought "This is going to make Trump President". I tried explaining how many women, yes white women, were totally opposed to the "multicultural diversity" agenda, only to be mocked. For example:


Went to dinner for my birthday two nights ago with my mother and her husband. Both of them voted Obama in 2008 and 2012. I joke with her I think she is the perfect barometer of who will win the election. She is a female swing voter in the Ohio suburbs. I asked her Hillary vs. Trump. There was a long pause. Trump.

It made my night a little better haha

How many of these fake stories have you come up with over the years? I think I've lost count.

Terrible. But lucky for me, I can hold my head high. Hillary Clinton will never be the President of the United States. The "glass ceiling" is as solid as ever, until a conservative woman comes along to shatter it in the future.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Did anyone here predict each state correctly? on: December 13, 2016, 06:52:57 am
All of the people who answered besides me:

Did you truly predict that Trump would take Maine's 2nd district?

Yes.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Did anyone here predict each state correctly? on: December 13, 2016, 06:06:30 am


Clinton: 278
Trump: 260


I missed Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Everything else was 100%. I just couldn't imagine Wisconsin. Michigan and Pennsylvania are always fools gold. Not anymore.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: OH, PA, MI +WI are finished because of globalization.Presidents can't solve it on: December 13, 2016, 04:24:51 am
Current unemployment rates in those states:

PA: 5,7%
OH: 4,8%
MI: 4,6%
WI: 4,1%

These are not high unemployment rates at all. Almost every European country would be jealous of those rates and all but PA are lower than for the US as a whole.

I don't think it has as much to do with the actual lack of employment, I believe it has more to do with that fact that we here in a place like Ohio are making money but the cost of living has far exceeded the cost of wages. So you have people working full-time still having to decide whether or not to pay their rent or their insurance. People having to decide whether they can buy groceries this week or wait another week because they need to get gas money.

It's expenses that are the problem.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Accepting my accolades on: December 13, 2016, 04:03:44 am
 As you may or may not know, I left this forum back on June 3rd, due to the utter leftist garbage being spewed. Living in suburban Ohio, I saw the electorate looked much better for Donald Trump. I tried to warn my fellow liberal posters only to be insulted, deemed a bigot, an idiot. I couldn’t take it. I decided to sit back and wait for Trump to win the election.

Now, a brief trip down memory lane:

I've been playing with the demographic calculator on 538, and even if Trump loses Romney's Hispanic numbers and the turnout is increased overall, he keeps it extremely competitive in the electoral college due to the turnout of non-college whites. In fact, if we can surmise that Trump will do better with black voters than Romney did (you can only go up from there), even if by a small percent, Trump's electoral votes gain drastically.

In fact, many of my calculations show a plausible scenario where Trump loses the popular vote by 1%, but wins a comfortable electoral college victory.

To be honest? Unlike the last two elections where my gut expected Obama to win (and I predicted that both times) my gut this time actually says that Trump will win the election. I just can't see the anti-establishment Trump/Sanders angry political mood culminating in a win for Hillary Clinton. It doesn't make sense. It would be like McCain winning solidly in 2008. I could try and spin it all I want, but in the end, we knew Obama had it from the get-go. My gut tells me this is going to be a good year for Donald Trump.

We need to jackhammer away with males. She's doing so horribly and male voters are the least likely to sway back and forth. If we can get too many whites to vote against her, all she will have is the McGovern rainbow coalition.

I think you guys are way off on this. I'm not talking about the Republican electorate, I'm talking about the entire electorate.

Just a few recent polls:

Federal bank bailout, good or bad?

Bad: 55%
Good: 23%
Unsure: 22%

Government and big business working for or against Americans?

Against: 68%
For: 13%

Should Government programs be enforced to help income inequality?

No: 58%
Yes: 31%

Should there be a shutdown of Muslim immigration?

Yes: 45%
No: 41%

PA/OH/FL

Best to handle the economy?
TRUMP

Best to handle terrorism?
TRUMP

Who is more honest and trustworthy?
TRUMP

How the hell is that only the GOP mood? Those aren't "Republicans only" polls.

I heard a Hillary supporter in another thread mention that the "current environment" favors Hillary Clinton and I was kind of taken back by it. I think the whole Trump/Sanders anti-establishment anti-politician backlash against political correctness benefits Trump much more than Hillary. Maybe I'm wrong. I just can't see all the turnout, the record breaking crowds, the enthusiasm, the anti-Washington attitude in both parties culminating with "Textbook politician Hillary Clinton elected. Time's Person of the Year: Hillary Clinton. Headline of the Year: Hillary Clinton."

Am I wrong here? It just doesn't feel right.

I know a handful of Obama 2012 Trump 2016 voters personally. Of course, it's just a handful of people in Ohio. I actually get the impression he's really well liked up here compared to places like Colorado or Virginia.

Trump seems to do well in the blue collar states (Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan) whereas I think more upscale whites in Virginia and Colorado will be a problem for him. Florida I have no clue.

Who do you think you'll find more of in Ohio or Indiana or Missouri or Florida? A person saying what Trump said, or quoting Maya Angelou poems? The disconnect in this country is astounding, regardless of which side you are on.

I have trouble believing that in this Trump/Sanders/High GOP turnout/anti-establishment election year, the end result will be "Hillary Clinton, the epitome of establishment...in a landslide".

Once again, you all missed it. You missed the point. I was always respectful in my opinions and analysis, which was proven right on Election Day, only to be torn apart. That blindness in the obvious led to the liberal defeat. I must accept accolades.

25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Taking a break on: June 03, 2016, 02:03:49 pm
This message board has really vaulted insane left. Like...bad. I can't continue to risk a heart attack due to the political trolling of liberals.

Farewell, friends.

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