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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Young TV host advocates for full out war during tirade on: July 24, 2015, 12:41:09 pm
It's true though that Obama has a "tip-toe" policy about terror. Think about it. Fort Hood is a terror attack. The guy was a Muslim, he wore Muslim garb and yelled "Allah Akbar!" while committing his murders. President Obama called Fort Hood "workplace violence". Workplace violence. Think about that for a second. Workplace violence would be throwing a copy machine at a wall, not yelling out Arabic screams as you commit terrorism in the name of Islam.

He isn't stupid, he knows what he's saying. Why does he say something that flawed?

Out of curiosity, do you consider Charleston a terror attack too?

Sure, in a sort-of homegrown hate crime sort of way.

I just never really noticed until recently how eager liberals are to make sure they do their best to stress anything different than Muslim Islamic Extremism.

"Workplace violence". It was terrorism. Obama says "ISIL" while everyone else says "ISIS". Obama was asked about Islamic extremism and came back with a quip about "Christian crusaders 1,000 years ago."

It doesn't make sense. It's like he's trying to play fair with people we should be incinerating.

http://nypost.com/2015/02/21/sure-obama-loves-america-just-not-the-america-we-live-in/

In Prague, he said America has “a moral responsibility to act” on arms control because only the US had “used a nuclear weapon,” as though winning a war that Japan started was shameful.

By a margin of 46 to 11, more right-wing conservatives than left-wing liberals agree that the US is the best country, according to last year’s Pew survey. In another survey, when Americans were asked to guess whether American exceptionalism was a belief of Presidents Clinton, Reagan, George W. Bush and Obama, the latter came in last, by a large margin.

Even when Obama claims to support American exceptionalism, he can’t do so without a “but.”
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Young TV host advocates for full out war during tirade on: July 24, 2015, 03:48:15 am
It's true though that Obama has a "tip-toe" policy about terror. Think about it. Fort Hood is a terror attack. The guy was a Muslim, he wore Muslim garb and yelled "Allah Akbar!" while committing his murders. President Obama called Fort Hood "workplace violence". Workplace violence. Think about that for a second. Workplace violence would be throwing a copy machine at a wall, not yelling out Arabic screams as you commit terrorism in the name of Islam.

He isn't stupid, he knows what he's saying. Why does he say something that flawed?
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: O'Malley Gets Cold Response After He Says 'White Lives Matter, All Lives Matter' on: July 23, 2015, 02:24:42 pm
This is why Democrats are bleeding white voters.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: Quinnipiac polls of CO, IA, VA. Clinton in big trouble. on: July 22, 2015, 05:37:18 am
Both Trump and Hillary seem to be plummeting all of sudden in recent polls. Trump's reasons are obvious, Hillary Clinton I'm not so sure why she keeps dropping.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who had the best announcement? on: July 22, 2015, 04:29:38 am
Bush and Kasich.
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Governor Walker confronted by illegal immigrant on: July 21, 2015, 12:01:36 am
It comes down to the law or compassion. Perhaps it's like the old saying, "If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart.  If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain."
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Governor Walker confronted by illegal immigrant on: July 20, 2015, 11:42:35 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGRUjXlQ8QE

From what I read and saw, it seems Walker scored major points. He came across solid in his position (which is that the law matters) and also was respectful to the lengthy impromptu interview.

UPDATE: Turns out this may have been an attempted ambush by leftists. 
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kasich announcement on Tuesday @9:30am on: July 20, 2015, 02:29:37 pm

Very excited for Tuesday! Once Kasich announces, momentum will only grow - he will be on the debate stage next month!

Is that really what you think? There's no room for Kasich in this race. What is his opening?
There absolutely is. Kasich has more relevant experience than anyone in this field. He can claim partial responsibility for the budget surpluses in the 90's, has enough experience in foreign policy to at least hold his own against Clinton, and has done pretty well as Governor of Ohio, a crucial swing-state.

A lot of folks still aren't too thrilled with the field - Kasich offers a breath of fresh air.

Twenty people running for President and nobody is satisfied?
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: VA-PPP: Bush +4 on: July 20, 2015, 07:18:04 am
Great favorable numbers for Rubio. He's gotta rise eventually.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Webb: Democratic Party has moved "way far to the left" on: July 19, 2015, 03:42:24 am
He has a point though. When I was 13 years old and Al Gore and George Bush were running for President, they had obvious political differences. But certain things IE vulgar explicit music and pop culture, keeping kids off drugs and criminals behind bars...those were things both guys agreed on. There was a peace of mind knowing that regardless of President Bush or President Gore, basic values would be upheld by the person in the White House.

The new Democratic Party isn't like that at all. They have become WAY left, very vicious, very controlling and in some ways dangerous.

I always get a kick out of people who say Republicans are "extreme". The very reason I can't vote for Democrats is because they are extreme.

Dude, you're 26? You need to get out more. You sound like you're 70.

I know, I know. Many people my age want drugs, and want hip-hop, but you gotta remember how I grew up. After Freshman year, I enrolled in an online high school and graduated from that. During that time, I was in school but was no longer "in school". Other than the Air Force and some college (Which is filled with older people too), I found myself "out of the loop" so to speak. In other words, when I was last "in high school", it was the 2003-2004 school year. The Iraq war was new, nobody in my class or school had cell phones, no texting, nobody had heard the phrase "social media", no myspace or facebook or twitter, we didn't have YouTube yet, and George Bush hadn't even been re-elected President yet on a wave of Evangelical gay marriage opposition. Between leaving public HS in 2004 and going into the workforce in 2009, I pretty much just did online HS and socialized with people with similar interests (IE vacations to Florida with meteorology friends, political trips with Keystone Phil and Mike).

Hell, my first job was the U.S Air Force when I was 21 years old. I had to sign Don't Ask Don't Tell, you couldn't be into drugs, no tattoos unless you had some special waiver and they could be covered by your uniform, and nothing like piercings or gauged ears, ect. LOL How do you expect me to be?


Out of curiosity, were your fellow soldiers similar in views?  I definitely agree, there are times that it would be nice if we as a society showed a little more moral restraint, that's for sure.

Yes. I didn't meet anyone in the Air Force against guns. Or covered in tattoos. Or who was pro-drug. If they were they never told me, which is the opposite of every person my age I meet in the civilian workforce.

I agree with this young man.

My wife and I are 60 and 58 respectively.  We are raising our grandson, whom we have legally adopted due to circumstances I won't discuss here.  We have two (2) grown sons, one of whom has done well, and one of whom has had serious issues. 

I have seen the coarsening of our society over the decades, and I am shocked and saddened.  One of my objectives in raising our adopted son is for him to grow up as naïve as possible until it's time to expose him to the "real world".  When he sees it, I want him to be appropriately shocked as to how people think and act, and act accordingly.  Too many kids see parents with ink, foul language, drug use, minor criminality, divorce, sex outside of marriage, and they think this is normal and OK after a while; it doesn't disturb them when others engage in irresponsible or over-the-top behavior.

I sense that this young man reacted to our "real world" with the proper amount of aversion.  It's real dangerous today to be a "follower"; the stakes are high and the price of following the crowd can last a lifetime.

Yep. The reason I cannot vote for the Democrats of today is because what is that what I see as aversion, they see as "progress."
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Webb: Democratic Party has moved "way far to the left" on: July 18, 2015, 11:37:20 am
He has a point though. When I was 13 years old and Al Gore and George Bush were running for President, they had obvious political differences. But certain things IE vulgar explicit music and pop culture, keeping kids off drugs and criminals behind bars...those were things both guys agreed on. There was a peace of mind knowing that regardless of President Bush or President Gore, basic values would be upheld by the person in the White House.

The new Democratic Party isn't like that at all. They have become WAY left, very vicious, very controlling and in some ways dangerous.

I always get a kick out of people who say Republicans are "extreme". The very reason I can't vote for Democrats is because they are extreme.

Dude, you're 26? You need to get out more. You sound like you're 70.

I know, I know. Many people my age want drugs, and want hip-hop, but you gotta remember how I grew up. After Freshman year, I enrolled in an online high school and graduated from that. During that time, I was in school but was no longer "in school". Other than the Air Force and some college (Which is filled with older people too), I found myself "out of the loop" so to speak. In other words, when I was last "in high school", it was the 2003-2004 school year. The Iraq war was new, nobody in my class or school had cell phones, no texting, nobody had heard the phrase "social media", no myspace or facebook or twitter, we didn't have YouTube yet, and George Bush hadn't even been re-elected President yet on a wave of Evangelical gay marriage opposition. Between leaving public HS in 2004 and going into the workforce in 2009, I pretty much just did online HS and socialized with people with similar interests (IE vacations to Florida with meteorology friends, political trips with Keystone Phil and Mike).

Hell, my first job was the U.S Air Force when I was 21 years old. I had to sign Don't Ask Don't Tell, you couldn't be into drugs, no tattoos unless you had some special waiver and they could be covered by your uniform, and nothing like piercings or gauged ears, ect. LOL How do you expect me to be?


Out of curiosity, were your fellow soldiers similar in views?  I definitely agree, there are times that it would be nice if we as a society showed a little more moral restraint, that's for sure.

Yes. I didn't meet anyone in the Air Force against guns. Or covered in tattoos. Or who was pro-drug. If they were they never told me, which is the opposite of every person my age I meet in the civilian workforce.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Webb: Democratic Party has moved "way far to the left" on: July 18, 2015, 09:55:45 am
He has a point though. When I was 13 years old and Al Gore and George Bush were running for President, they had obvious political differences. But certain things IE vulgar explicit music and pop culture, keeping kids off drugs and criminals behind bars...those were things both guys agreed on. There was a peace of mind knowing that regardless of President Bush or President Gore, basic values would be upheld by the person in the White House.

The new Democratic Party isn't like that at all. They have become WAY left, very vicious, very controlling and in some ways dangerous.

I always get a kick out of people who say Republicans are "extreme". The very reason I can't vote for Democrats is because they are extreme.

Dude, you're 26? You need to get out more. You sound like you're 70.

I know, I know. Many people my age want drugs, and want hip-hop, but you gotta remember how I grew up. After Freshman year, I enrolled in an online high school and graduated from that. During that time, I was in school but was no longer "in school". Other than the Air Force and some college (Which is filled with older people too), I found myself "out of the loop" so to speak. In other words, when I was last "in high school", it was the 2003-2004 school year. The Iraq war was new, nobody in my class or school had cell phones, no texting, nobody had heard the phrase "social media", no myspace or facebook or twitter, we didn't have YouTube yet, and George Bush hadn't even been re-elected President yet on a wave of Evangelical gay marriage opposition. Between leaving public HS in 2004 and going into the workforce in 2009, I pretty much just did online HS and socialized with people with similar interests (IE vacations to Florida with meteorology friends, political trips with Keystone Phil and Mike).

Hell, my first job was the U.S Air Force when I was 21 years old. I had to sign Don't Ask Don't Tell, you couldn't be into drugs, no tattoos unless you had some special waiver and they could be covered by your uniform, and nothing like piercings or gauged ears, ect. LOL How do you expect me to be?
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: GOP Primary Atlas Poll, July 2015 on: July 16, 2015, 05:19:16 pm
Rubio
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Webb: Democratic Party has moved "way far to the left" on: July 16, 2015, 05:10:23 pm
He has a point though. When I was 13 years old and Al Gore and George Bush were running for President, they had obvious political differences. But certain things IE vulgar explicit music and pop culture, keeping kids off drugs and criminals behind bars...those were things both guys agreed on. There was a peace of mind knowing that regardless of President Bush or President Gore, basic values would be upheld by the person in the White House.

The new Democratic Party isn't like that at all. They have become WAY left, very vicious, very controlling and in some ways dangerous.

I always get a kick out of people who say Republicans are "extreme". The very reason I can't vote for Democrats is because they are extreme.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: 2016 Atlas Forums Republican Straw Poll on: July 12, 2015, 02:39:09 am
Rubio
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Are Republican Party policies the root cause of nearly all of our problems? on: July 10, 2015, 09:05:41 am
I think of it as quite the opposite actually. Think about everything I ever hear people complain about, it can be traced back to liberals.

I see policeman complain about "sensitivity training" and things brought about by the Justice Department. Who is in charge of the Justice Department? Obama administration.

I see kids in the news overdosing on drugs and using weed that is apparently much stronger than anything the hippies of the 60s ever smoked. Who supports legalizing it? Liberals.

I have friends who wait tables, they can't make minimum wage PLUS tips. Why not? The Fair Wages Act, started by Democrats.

I have friends who like to go shooting. They worry people might be against them exercising their 2nd Amendment rights. Who hates guns and wants gun control? LIBERALS.

My mother gets nervous over hospital test results, she can't get the information from the nurse immediately, there are roadblocks. Why? Hipaa Act. Signed by a Democrat.

My stepfather's employer is at risk of dropping spousal insurance. Why? OBAMACARE. Passed by Democrats only, signed by a Democrat President.

My mother's taxes go up. Why? She's middle class, far from anything close to "wealthy". But as soon as she makes good money, the Government considers her a higher earner and taxes the crap outta her. Who raises taxes on high earners? DEMOCRATS.

I'll hear someone complain that they don't want their hard-earned money "going towards other people's welfare!" Who supports doing that? LIBERALS.

People get stunned that Dukes of Hazzard is taken off the air. Who supports banning it? LIBERALS.

People get angry that a principal suspends a little boy for biting his sandwich into the shape of a gun. Who supports doing it? LIBERALS.

Jesus, watch "Scarface". At the beginning, all those criminal violent Cuban refugees come to Florida. That was a real event. Crime soared. One of the characters at the beginning says to another, "That son of a bi*ch Castro is sh*ttin' all over us." He did. He basically emptied his prisons into Florida. Who allowed that? Jimmy Carter, a Democrat. Thanks Jimmy...I guess being friends with a brutal communist piece of crap is worth turning Miami into a dangerous, violent city. Good going. Good compassion.

I CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON. I just named a few things off the top of my head that I hear people complain almost every day. I'm sure there is even more. It's ALL LIBERALISM. Republicans may not be rosy, but the Democrats are wilted...and I only scratched the surface. EVERYTHING that is pissing people off is a result of liberalism. EVERY SINGLE THING I LISTED YOU KNOW IS TRUE. It's true where I live. People bitch and people moan about this stuff EVERY SINGLE DAY. The solution to the problem is right in front of you. DO NOT ELECT LIBERALS.

If it bothers you, go to a bar and light up a cigarette to relax. OH WAIT...can't smoke inside a bar anymore. I wonder why...

Liberals. Every single day. LIBERALS. I rest my case.
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: July 2015 Federal Special Election - At-large Senate on: July 03, 2015, 02:51:14 am
1. Dkrolga
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: See things from the other's perspective on: July 02, 2015, 12:56:46 pm
It matters very little who the squashes the freedom of expression; who needs a tyrannical government to block free speech when he has tyrannical corporations subject to the latest whims of boycotting SJWs? Again, I despise the Confederate flag and would never consider flying one or buying one. But that mere fact that I can't buy one is rather Orwellian.

Look at this pile of word vomit.

He's right though. It's his freedom and right to do so if he or she so chooses.

Look, if a conservative wants to become a vegetarian, they'll say, "I won't eat meat". A liberal who wants to become a vegetarian will say, "I WANT MEAT BANNED."

You CANNOT take away OTHER PEOPLES RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS. Period.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: If the above poster ran for President, what would be his best state? on: June 29, 2015, 07:17:28 pm
Washington
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / See things from the other's perspective on: June 29, 2015, 09:51:44 am
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/11703283/Confederate-flag-is-a-symbol-of-Americas-culture-wars.html

Great article. It describes feelings on both sides.



 But putting yourself in the other guy’s shoes is a two-way street. And since I'm speaking to a predominately British audience here, I thought it might be healthy to continue this game of role-play.

Now, pretend for a minute that you’re a 50-year old white man living somewhere in the Deep South. You cast your first vote for Ronald Reagan in 1984. As a kid, your favorite show was the Dukes of Hazzard, which featured a car called The General Lee. The backdrop to every party or prom you’ve ever attended was the music of Lynyrd Skynyrd (with lyrics like “In Birmingham they love the governor”).

Today, your way of life is under attack - and this (by far) transcends the Confederate flag. You’re experiencing what feels like a radical cultural revolution.


(Trimmed for copyright - TF)
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: June 26, 2015, 02:48:40 pm
Congrats to those whose side won. I know the feeling of winning a partisan 5-4 decision. Just fifteen years ago, the Supreme Court decided 5-4 to end the recounts and assure that George Bush was the 43rd President of the United States. It was a good feeling, although it always bugged me that it was so bitterly partisan and one vote would have made it the opposite.

What's sad is that I wish this had been a 9-0 decision either for or against. It would have had more clarity. Imagine a John McCain appointed court. No Sotomayor and no Kagan, and today might have been a 6-3 against gay marriage decision.

It seems quite clear that politics rules our lives, regardless of which side we are on.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: She's Pregnant Again on: June 26, 2015, 04:30:42 am
Is she aware that birth control exists?

Mike...it's everywhere. Almost every girl between 18 and 25 that I ever worked with...single moms. Girls I met during my brief time in the Air Force that I keep in touch with, in the last five years, started dating a guy, now they are single moms.

THE GIRL WHO GAVE ME A FRICKIN' HAIRCUT last week was chatting with me and mentioned her three kids in daycare, and she was my age.

I honestly don't believe they use birth control of any kind. I think they live "in the moment".
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: President of Spokane NAACP outed as white imposter on: June 24, 2015, 05:04:17 pm
http://mynorthwest.com/992/2774838/Rachel-Dolezal-is-everything-thats-wrong-with-political-correctness

GREAT ARTICLE.

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Take for example a mind-blowingly laughable conversation on MSNBC with host Melissa Harris-Perry, who once mocked Mitt Romney for having an adopted black grandchild. Rather than call Dolezal out for pretending to be black, Harris-Perry asks:

    But is it possible that she might actually be black? The best way that I know how to describe this, and I want to be very careful here because I don't want to say it's equivalent to the transgender experience. But there is a useful language in "trans" and "cis" which is just to say some of us are born cis-gendered, some of us are born transgendered, but I wonder can it be that one would be cis-black and trans-black. That there is actually a different category of blackness that is about achievement of blackness despite one's parentage. Is that possible?

None of the words coming out of Perry's mouth mean anything. It's just a bunch of words strung together to form what activists think is brilliant analysis of a complex issue, when the issue isn't complex at all: you can't be black when you're white, nor can you be white when you are black. You want to identify as such? Fine - but you'll be judged as either mentally unwell or as an opportunist.

Political correctness means you never, ever make someone feel bad, even if it's unintentional, and you definitely shouldn't judge them (unless that person is a Republican, then you get to mock them all you want). And it's gotten so crazy that even people who you know want to rip Dolezal for her deception, stop themselves from talking about the contrived "transracial" concept.
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: June 2015 Federal Election - President, VP and Regional Senators on: June 19, 2015, 01:32:38 pm
President:
1. Dkrolga/Altsomn

Senate:
Lumine
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: President of Spokane NAACP outed as white imposter on: June 18, 2015, 11:44:08 am
People are taking "you can be whatever you want to be when you grow up" way too literally and to a whole different level these days.
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