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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What percentage of the youth vote will Hillary get? on: February 26, 2015, 12:17:01 pm
What "Millennial" are people talking about? Are they talking about a Millennial like myself, who was born in 1988, or a "Millennial" voter who will have been born in 1998? Big difference. I was a baby when Ronald Reagan was President. These new voters were toddlers when 9/11 occurred, while I was a teenager. I think we may not vote the same way, necessarily.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: PA-Muhlenberg College/Morning Call: Hillary up 17 on Jeb, 19 on Christie on: February 25, 2015, 07:45:38 am
What's with all the low percentages? 20%-30% range for approvals. I'm guessing many people have no real clue or interests in their elected representatives anymore.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Rudy Giuliani: Obama doesn't love America on: February 22, 2015, 11:05:18 am
Kyle Smith of the NY Post had a great article on this whole situation:

http://nypost.com/2015/02/21/sure-obama-loves-america-just-not-the-america-we-live-in/

Rudy Giuliani thinks President Obama doesn’t love America. That’s not true. Obama surely loves America, though not the actual existing country. He is head-over-heels gaga for a fictional America, a notional America, an enlightened America, America with an asterisk.

Whenever Obama praises America, especially in foreign lands, he is careful to append caveats that make it clear America should, as he once said in another context, get off its high horse. He doesn’t apologize, exactly, but he makes it clear that his overall image of America is of a morally shrunken, chastened land whose sins render it unfit to exert much authority in the world.

In Prague, he said America has “a moral responsibility to act” on arms control because only the US had “used a nuclear weapon,” as though winning a war that Japan started was shameful.

Obama’s famous view of American exceptionalism — “I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism” — is curiously qualified: When you ask a mom whether she thinks her baby is cute, you expect to hear, “Of course!” not a reflection on the nature of subjectivity.

By a margin of 46 to 11, more right-wing conservatives than left-wing liberals agree that the US is the best country, according to last year’s Pew survey. In another survey, when Americans were asked to guess whether American exceptionalism was a belief of Presidents Clinton, Reagan, George W. Bush and Obama, the latter came in last, by a large margin.

Even when Obama claims to support American exceptionalism, he can’t do so without a “but.”


Excellent points. I wish Rudy could have phrased it more in that way.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Walker on if Obama loves America: "I don't really know" on: February 22, 2015, 10:55:31 am
Walker said such questions from reporters are reflective of a broader problem in the nation’s political-media culture, which he described as fixated on issues that are not relevant to most Americans.

“To me, this is a classic example of why people hate Washington and, increasingly, they dislike the press,” he said. “The things they care about don’t even remotely come close to what you’re asking about.”
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What would be your reaction if Hillary Clinton announced that she's not running? on: February 21, 2015, 02:47:31 pm
The 2016 presidential race would go from toss-up/tilt D to safe R, so pretty depressed.

That shows the state of the political landscape. One person carrying the entire party. Tsk tsk.
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: February 2015 Presidential and Regional Senate Elections on: February 20, 2015, 01:29:47 am
President:
1. JCL/Devin
2. Maxwell/Dallasfan65

Mideast Senate:
1. Spiral
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Rudy Giuliani: Obama doesn't love America on: February 19, 2015, 11:32:47 am
Pretty obvious stuff. Obama loves countries like Denmark and would love the US to be more like them.

Most sane people would love the US to be more like Denmark.

And the average American would gain a lot more from that than through whether the President loves America or not.

Great. Let's have America be more like the country that Germany invaded in two months.

I've said it before, he's not the head of the U.N. He's the President of the United States. Where's his thoughts on American exceptionalism? Where's his Teddy Roosevelt, Truman, Reagan moments?
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama Immigration Policy (Temporarily) Halted by Federal Judge in Texas on: February 19, 2015, 11:28:49 am
I honestly have nothing against immigrants, I just don't like the thought of it happening illegally and those who break the law being rewarded.

I guess it's competence vs compassion.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: UMass Amherst bans Iranian nationals from taking certain science subjects on: February 19, 2015, 11:25:59 am
Iranians?What is this, 1985?

I'm being quite serious...if they aren't called Iranians, what are they called today?
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Add Indiana to the list of states with "religious freedom" laws on: February 19, 2015, 11:24:45 am
Safe Hillary
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: RELIGIOUS FREEDOM! Doctor refuses to care for lesbian couple's 6-day-old baby on: February 19, 2015, 11:24:12 am
This is news?
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: NJ: Academics and Model-makers on Hillary Clinton's chances on: February 17, 2015, 06:17:37 am
Why does every Democrat cheer the polls 20 months before the election that are showing Hillary ahead by 10-16 points?

Dude, it's because she is all the Democrats have left.

The entire country is pretty much Republican. The most watched news network is Fox. The most listened to talk radio show is Rush Limbaugh. There are 50 Governors, only 18 of them are Democrats. The Republicans just gained more seats in the House and Senate than they have had in decades. They have a huge white voter problem, so they try and spin that Hillary will win white guys in Arkansas.

It's all a pipe dream. I honestly think the Obama coalition is running the risk of becoming the rainbow coalition. If you like that, ask President Mondale and President Dukakis how well they enjoyed it.
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Tom Cotton Wants Terror Detainees To 'Rot In Hell,' But He'll Settle For Gitmo on: February 09, 2015, 11:16:24 pm
Yes, it's always a good thing to dehumanize your adversaries. That's definitely never led to any negative outcomes.

It worked in 1945.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZPP0ae2zrXY#t=1062
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Tom Cotton Wants Terror Detainees To 'Rot In Hell,' But He'll Settle For Gitmo on: February 09, 2015, 04:25:45 pm
A war veteran wants terrorists to rot in hell. News at 11.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: State of the Union without the Vice President or President Pro Tempore on: February 09, 2015, 04:25:14 pm
When President George Bush gave his address to Congress nine days after 9/11, Robert Byrd sat in with Dennis Hasert since Vice President Cheney was in an undisclosed location.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: When did Generation X outliberal the Baby Boomers? on: February 04, 2015, 08:55:44 am
Radicalization of the left.

In 1992 and 1996, it was acceptable for older voters to vote for Bill Clinton. After all, he signed the "Defense of Marriage Act", and said in his SOTU address in 1996, "The era of big Government is over."

In 2000, it was possible for both George Bush and Al Gore to persuade both young and old voters. Yes, Gore leaned left and Bush leaned right, but both were moderate enough to be all-American Presidents acceptable to young and old.

Now, you have a President who seems to have ventured into the far-left territory. He would never say half the things that Bill Clinton said in the 90s. He supports everything from Government run healthcare to same-sex marriage. This may play well with young but older folks are completely disillusioned by it. He's crossed a metaphorical line. Had Bill Clinton done that in 1996, Bob Dole would have been swept into office.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The GOP's "Big 4" on: February 02, 2015, 12:14:59 am
Walker, Christie, Rubio, Bush.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Should anyone GOPer in the current "group" scare the Democrats? on: January 30, 2015, 10:20:17 pm
I think Christie is the most electable. In fact, in a Hillary vs. Republican race, Christie gives me a sense of electable security.

My father is a reliable Republican who would never vote for Christie if he runs for President. That's one lost vote.

sh**t. There goes Massachusetts.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Should anyone GOPer in the current "group" scare the Democrats? on: January 30, 2015, 03:10:45 pm
I think Christie is the most electable. In fact, in a Hillary vs. Republican race, Christie gives me a sense of electable security.

Electable security? Christie is the only one that makes CO lean D instead of toss up. Even Huckabee polls better there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BPKTptC3qII&x-yt-cl=85114404&x-yt-ts=1422579428#t=1462

I think he is a great communicator.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Should anyone GOPer in the current "group" scare the Democrats? on: January 30, 2015, 02:40:29 pm
I think Christie is the most electable. In fact, in a Hillary vs. Republican race, Christie gives me a sense of electable security.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What will they even attack Walker on? on: January 30, 2015, 03:05:56 am
Tidbit...Walker's birthday would fall just a couple of days prior to the Presidential Election. If elected and then running for re-election, his birthday would be the Monday before election day.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What will they even attack Walker on? on: January 29, 2015, 11:25:04 pm
I couldn't believe how often his Iowa speech had me grinning. I mean, even his joke about using "Kohls cash" to shop at Kohls made me grin, because my family does that and it's alot better and more "in touch" than Mitt Romney's wardrobe, I'm sure.

“I never had a young classmate say they wanted to become dependent on American government when they grew up.”

"We celebrate the 4th of July not the 15th of April." (Invoking Ronald Reagan)

“We need leaders that understand when freedom-loving people anywhere are under attack, we need to stand with them.” (Shot at Obama's no-show in France)

Walker used the phrase “radical Islamic terrorists,” with a smart-as* emphasis likely meant to draw a contrast between him and Obama.

“The measure of success for government should not be how many people depend upon it, but how many are no are longer dependent on it”.
23  General Discussion / History / Forum dems/libs: Would you have supported the American Revolution? on: January 21, 2015, 07:45:21 pm
Just for thoughts and discussion.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: CNN: RNC set to open 7/18/2016. on: January 20, 2015, 01:27:18 am
The bigger TV audience would likely be before the Olympics. I would hope both conventions are out of the way by August. I don't care for them afterwards.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Manchin/Beshear vs Hogan/Baker on: January 20, 2015, 01:24:50 am
Oooh tough call. Even I like Manchin. My guess is he would win big.
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