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526  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 22, 2013, 03:52:01 pm
It is 9:46PM in Tel Aviv now.  Will they finish the count tonight or will this drag out to tomorrow?

Yes, they will finish counting almost all the votes (except for soldiers votes) tonight, although it's an hour later than you think.
527  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 22, 2013, 03:49:12 pm
Live election results in Hebrew, I'll update an English link if I find one.
528  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 22, 2013, 02:53:05 pm
Journalists are hinting at a surprisingly good result for Lapid.
529  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 22, 2013, 02:44:05 pm
I was just thinking that since Kadima and Whole Nation have a voter surplus agreement, and both are so close to the threshold, it's actually almost certain that at least one of them will make it (if I'm understanding the election system right).

At the moment, Kadima has the more momentum between the two, so it's very likely Shaul Mofaz and probably Yisrael Hasson will make it back into the Knesset.

It doesn't work that way, a voter surplus agreement only counts if both parties pass the threshold.
530  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 22, 2013, 01:51:02 pm
Yes, an hour and 10 minutes from now.
531  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 22, 2013, 01:32:09 pm
63.7% voted until 20:00, 4% more than 2009:

532  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 22, 2013, 12:54:59 pm
Likud fears it may score only 31 seats in light of party's low voter turnout. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Haaretz late Tuesday afternoon that voter turnout in Likud strongholds around Israel were low, highlighting the growing fear within his party that it may be crashing in the election. As the evening wore on, Netanyahu was continuing his efforts to awaken Likud voters across the country.
Could be a ploy to get Likud voters to come out.

It is a ploy, but it may be true anyway. Bibi spent a lot of the elections trying to convince people that he hasn't won yet.
533  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 22, 2013, 11:51:32 am
BTW: Danny, who did you vote for ?

Jewish Home, but my family voted Lapid.
534  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 22, 2013, 11:39:01 am
55.5% voted until 18:00, 5.2% more than 2009.
535  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Areas where Romney won Jews and Obama won white evangelicals on: January 22, 2013, 09:46:42 am
Williamsburg is the answer, but I don't think there are many Evangelical Christians there.
536  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 22, 2013, 09:30:21 am
46.6% voted until 16:00, 4.7% more than 2009.
537  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 22, 2013, 08:57:59 am
It is interesting that all media seems to report that this is a lackluster campaign with low enthusiasm.  But turnout seems to be significantly higher than 2009.

Yeah, the media doesn't seem to know these kinds of things.
538  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 22, 2013, 08:06:01 am
38.3% voted until 14:00, 4.3% more than 2009.
539  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 22, 2013, 07:09:11 am
Any place to follow the results when they come in, preferably in English?

I imagine all the Israeli news sites will have a result page, bot they haven't posted them yet.
540  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 22, 2013, 05:56:37 am
I'm back from voting, no line at all, so I went right in.

26.7% voted until 12:00, still highest since 1999, now 3.3% more than 2009.
541  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 22, 2013, 05:12:33 am
Election day is finally here Smiley

Turnout is 11.4% until 10:00, the highest since 1999 and 1.1% higher than 2009:
542  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 18, 2013, 02:52:49 pm
The deadline for polls has passed, and there was a flood of polls, I don't have time to write them all here but here is someone who compiled most of them:
http://knessetjeremy.com/
543  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 17, 2013, 04:49:39 am
Question regarding Haaretz interview with Dov Khenin:

http://www.haaretz.com/news/israeli-elections-2013/israeli-elections-news-features/mk-dov-khenin-netanyahu-government-is-dangerous-for-israel-1.494332

"Do you support mandatory civil service for those who do not serve in the army? Hadash supports the mandatory draft law for the Druze but if the law is canceled, is not also legitimate for the ultra-Orthodox not to join the army? (Dalia and Eilon)"

What? Hadash supports forcing Druze to serve in the army?

They don't, it's a fail translation from Haaretz, the Hebrew version says the opposite.
544  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 15, 2013, 03:17:23 pm
Just the endorsement Bibi needed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm5Je73bYOY
545  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 13, 2013, 11:03:31 am
Political ads are on TV now, and the one making the biggest noise is this one from Shas, which drew wide ranging condemnation for its perceived  anti Russian racism.

http://youtu.be/A-auotGWUeM

Wow, that is racist.

If you are willing to move to a tribal state, you should be expecting that your tribal membership might be questioned. I would have been enraged if this were happening in any civilized country, but here it seems hilariously appropriate.


Then again, there are these folks:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/24/bnei-menashe-move-to-israel-indian-jews-from-lost-tribe-arrive-in-holy-land-photos_n_2359086.html

Compared to these folks the Russian emigrants are more Semitic by blood, and have practitioners of Judaism much further down the family tree. Seems the Shas stood in the government that admitted them.

The whole point of Shas is to represent the non-white(Ashkenazi) religious people. Naturally, they would have more problem with secular white (and possibly non-Jewish) Russians than the non-askenazi more dark skinned and religious groups you mentioned.
546  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 13, 2013, 10:50:14 am

So...(before anyone asks, since KLH is a religious party, this is a right-religious majority over center-left 69-51, but it's dependent on KLH and OLI, both of which Netanyahu would be unlikely to invite into his coalition)...is turnout particularly low among Arab youth? Could some of the more unusual trends (I want to list some, but...really there's nothing not notable in that poll) be explained?

I don't think these polls are good predictors of the future, also, Green Leaf is not left wing, they are libertarian, and would be easily the most right wing economically were they to enter the knesset. Regarding peace/security issues they support a referendum before agreeing to any peace deal.

Here is their platform, it doesn't look left wing at all.
547  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 13, 2013, 01:24:15 am
I support Israeli construction at  E1, so naturally I support Israeli actions. As for Haaretz, they're full of nonsense, I don't pay them much attention. I imagine HNV will have a very different perspective though.
548  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 12, 2013, 01:31:47 pm
Poll from Forbes:

Likud Beitenu- 34
Labour - 17
JH-NU - 14
Yesh Atid - 11
Shas - 9
The Movement - 9
UTJ - 6
Meretz - 5
Raam-Taal - 4
Hadash - 3
Balad -3
Otzma- 3
Kadima - 2
549  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 12, 2013, 12:01:15 pm
Poll from channel 1:

Likud Beitenu- 33
Labour - 16
JH-NU - 15
Shas - 10
Yesh Atid - 10
The Movement - 9
Meretz - 6
UTJ - 5
Raam-Taal - 4
Hadash - 4
Balad -3
Otzma- 3
Kadima - 2
550  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: January 11, 2013, 03:00:14 pm
If anyone wants, this person has a channel with ads from different parties subtitled in English:
http://www.youtube.com/user/IsraeliElections2013?feature=watch

Also, it's probably some Israeli thing I'm not aware of, but it looks like the girls at 1:23 in this Hatnuah ad are doing the Gangam Style dance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RGUE6yW9yjQ#t=82s
XD

No, that's just Gangnam Style, it's big everywhere.
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