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526  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: December 14, 2012, 03:52:11 pm
Big news with Lieberman resigning after the decision to indict him on corruption related charges.

The Israelis - 2
I don't think I've heard of this party. What is it?

A new Russian immigrant party.
527  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: White Britons no longer a majority in London on: December 14, 2012, 08:37:02 am
I see Christianity went from 71.6% in 2001 to 59.3% in 2011. At this rate, less than half the population will be Christian by the time of the next census.
528  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama: We will not go after marijuana users in states that legalized it. on: December 14, 2012, 08:00:34 am
makes sense.
529  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2012 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Shelby County, TN Presidential Results - Precinct Map on: December 14, 2012, 07:54:54 am
So what happens if you refuse to cut your grass... or at least keep it at the specified length? Would you get fined? and then if you refuse to pay the fines, get arrested? lololol
All towns around here have ordinances regarding grass. It's a property maintenance issue and a public health issue as wildly overgrown grass encourages snakes and rodents and other nasty critters. Germantown, however, takes it to an extreme and will cite you for just slightly overgrown grass. It's similar to a parking ticket. Small fine at first with increasingly penalties for serial noncompliance. Most neighborhoods in Germantown also have active neighborhood associations, each with their own rules. Common no-nos at that level include things that are perceived to hurt property values like renting your home or putting up a chain link fence around your yard. The neighborhood associations can go to court and get a lien against your property if you refuse to follow the rules. They also have rather pricy dues, which must be paid each year above the county and municipal property taxes. Some, but not all, will also have a neighborhood clubhouse, pool, tennis court, gym etc. that is part of the package, but you must join the association and follow the rules if you own a property in the neighborhood. Did I mention that these people are 100% dyed in the wool "small gov't" Republicans?

Wow I hear complaints of "big government" over silly things, but this really sounds like big government in action. No one cares when anyone in my house cuts the grass, and it's none of their business anyway.
530  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2012 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Vote counting update thread on: December 13, 2012, 02:23:58 pm
Wee question...as I'm not American I don't understand how they can call an election on election day when actually there were millions of votes uncounted, anyone cares to elaborate?

Statistics
That's hardly enough to call an election when you only counted 60% of the votes

It is, possibly a lot less than that actually, depending on how close the election is and where the remaining votes are from.
531  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: December 13, 2012, 12:46:51 pm
New polls:

Yisrael Hayom:


Likud Beitenu: 39
Labour: 19
Shas: 12
JH-NU: 10
The Movement: 9
Yesh Atid: 9
UTJ: 5
Meretz: 4
RAAM-TAAL: 4
Hadash: 4
Balad: 3
Kadima: 2

Kol Israel:


Likud Beitenu: 39
Labour: 19
JH-NU: 10
Shas: 10
The Movement: 9
Yesh Atid: 9
UTJ: 6
Meretz: 4
Balad: 4
Hadash: 4
Am Shalem: 3
RAAM-TAAL: 3

Knesset channel:

Likud Beitenu: 36
Labour: 18
JH-NU: 13
Shas: 9
The Movement: 9
Yesh Atid: 7
UTJ: 6
Meretz: 5
RAAM-TAAL: 5
Hadash: 4
Otzma Leisrael: 3
Balad: 2
Am Shalem: 2
532  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Uruguay House Approves Gay Marriage Bill; even conservatives voted for it on: December 13, 2012, 12:31:16 pm
Good news.
533  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: December 12, 2012, 11:31:11 am
It's interesting that Livni is viewed as a likelier winner than Yachimovich...I really think with a good campaign Hatnuah could place second, ahead of Labour.

I don't think the difference between 6% to 4% is particularly meaningful.
534  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws on: December 11, 2012, 04:31:35 pm

Again, Blacks are more supportive of gay marriage than Whites, just like in GA.

I wonder how this would look like in non-southern states.
535  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws on: December 11, 2012, 02:40:21 pm
South Carolina (PPP)

Q10 Do you think same-sex marriage should be allowed, or not?
It should be allowed 27%
It should not ........... .62%
Not sure ................. .10%

Q11 Which of the following best describes your opinion on gay marriage: gay couples should be allowed to legally marry, or gay couples should be allowed to form civil unions but not legally marry, or there should be no legal recognition of a gay couple's relationship?

25% - Gay couples should be allowed to legally marry
29% - Gay couples should be allowed to form civil unions but not marry
43% - There should be no legal recognition of a gay couple's relationship
4% - Not sure

So it looks like if it weren't for the fact that likely any Republican who voted for it would get primaried, civil unions would be passable in South Carolina.

I doubt it, people who say they support civil unions but not marriage usually vote against civil unions when it comes up.
536  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Would you go to a church if it was giving out free pot to first time visitors? on: December 10, 2012, 02:49:04 pm
No. I don't go to church, pray or smoke pot. So there is no incentive at all for me in this.
537  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: December 10, 2012, 09:50:29 am
Poll from Haaretz:

Likud Beitenu: 39
Labour: 17
Shas: 12
JH-NU: 11
The Movement: 9
Yesh Atid: 6
UTJ: 6
RAAM-TAAL: 5
Hadash: 4
Balad: 3
Meretz: 3
Am Shalem: 3
Kadima: 2

who do you think is more suitable to be PM?

Bibi: 64%
Livni: 24%
Don't know: 12%
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Bibi: 64%
Shelly: 17%
Don't know: 19%

Who do you think will be the next PM:

Bibi: 81%
Livni: 6%
Shelly: 4%
Don't know: 9%
538  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: December 10, 2012, 09:36:03 am
Poll amongst "Russians" only:

Likud Beitenu: 68%
The Movement: 9%
Labour, Kadima, Yesh Atid, Jewish Home: 4%
Shas: 3%
Meretz: 2%
UTJ: 1%
539  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Meanwhile in Oklahoma... on: December 08, 2012, 08:35:45 am
We need to find a way to saw off Oklahoma and let it float out to sea.

I take it you'd prefer he be indefinitely detained.

(Atheist South-skeptic here, by the by.)

Someone convicted of manslaughter should go to jail, yes.
540  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: December 07, 2012, 05:47:43 pm
On the Orthodox Jewish thing, what drift do I have to catch?

I think they mean Ashkenazi (but don't take it too seriously).
541  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: December 07, 2012, 05:41:49 pm
Poll from channel 1:

Likud Beitenu: 36
Labour: 19
JH-NU: 12
The Movement: 12
Shas: 11
Yesh Atid: 7
UTJ: 6
Meretz: 4
RAAM-TAAL: 4
Hadash: 4
Balad: 3
Otzma Leisrael: 2

So it looks like the defection of peretz has helped Livni somewhat.
542  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: December 07, 2012, 04:57:58 am
I can't seem to find HaTnuah's list anywhere...

1) Tzipi Livni
2) Amram Mitzna
3) Amir Peretz
4) Elazar Shtern
5) Meir Sheetrit
6) David Tzur
7) Yoel Hasson
8 ) Shlomo Molla
9) Meirav Cohen
10) Orit Zuaretz
11) Aharon Valensi
12) Majalli Wahabi
13) Alon Tal
14) Robert Tiviaev
15) Avner Ben Zaken
543  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: December 06, 2012, 06:29:31 pm
What is the Green Leaf-Israeli Freedom movement?

Marijuana legalization.
544  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: December 06, 2012, 05:33:26 pm
In case you were wondering who to vote for.

545  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: December 06, 2012, 05:10:40 pm
The deadline to submit the lists is over now, so the defections and speculations about new parties will be over now.

A total of 34 parties have submitted their lists and will run in the elections. Up from 33 in the previous elections.
546  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: December 06, 2012, 02:20:44 pm
I doubt it will have any significant effect.
547  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: December 06, 2012, 02:13:14 pm
and two more polls.

Knesset channel:

Likud Beitenu: 36
Labour: 19
JH-NU: 12
Shas: 10
Yesh Atid: 8
The Movement: 6
UTJ: 5
Meretz: 5
Am Shalem: 3
Otzma Leyisrael: 3
Kadima: 2
"Arab parties": 11

Reshet Bet:

Likud Beitenu: 36
Labour: 20
JH-NU: 11
Shas: 10
Yesh Atid: 9
The Movement: 9
UTJ: 6
Meretz: 3
Otzma Leyisrael: 3
Am Shalem: 2
"Arab parties": 11
548  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: December 06, 2012, 01:13:35 pm
A recent poll by channel 10 (taken before the Peretz defection):

Likud Beitenu: 37
Labour: 20
JH-NU: 11
Shas: 10
The Movement: 9
Yesh Atid: 7
UTJ: 6
RAAM-TAAL: 5
Meretz: 4
Am Shalem: 3
Balad: 3
Hadash: 3
Kadima: 2
549  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: December 06, 2012, 06:04:37 am
Also this election will now have two former leaders of the Labour party running in Livni's party (Mitzna and Peretz). That is on top of two other former leaders who have left their party recently (Barak and Peres).
550  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israeli General Election 2013 on: December 06, 2012, 04:46:04 am
The musical chairs in this election is amusing as ever. This case is especially amusing as Peretz ran in 2006 focusing on economic issues, and is now leaving the party because the new leader is doing the same.

This adds to the irony of Livni using the "Mofaz law" (called that way as it was designed to help Mofaz leave the Livni led Kadima) to get public funding instead of Kadima.
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