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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kaine or Warner as VP? on: July 03, 2014, 07:16:32 pm
Both would be solid picks.  Neither is really loved by the base, but Warner would be slightly more controversial due to his work on deficit reduction which was distrusted by some liberal members of our party.  Also, I have heard rumors about Warner's past private life.  For obvious reasons that is a scenario Hillary in particular would want to avoid.

Kaine has served as a No. 2 before, will have a good level of experience by 2016 and IMO he is slightly more liberal than Warner, which is a plus.  He would be a boring pick but if we are following the standard "do no harm" rule for the running mate selection, he looks like the better choice to me.

2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What does a Hillary coalition look like? on: July 02, 2014, 07:59:30 pm
Voters under 40.  White Women.  Asians + Hispanics.  Try to hold as much Black support as possible.  Gays and Lesbians.  Jewish voters.

She will probably do better than Obama among all these groups except Blacks and voters under 40.  Still more than enough to win.

Wouldn't Hillary do worse among Hispanics? This likely has nothing Obama, but rather that Hillary probably won't face an opponent that advocate "self-deportation".

Also, African American might not be such a problem. After all, they did turnout in an odd year for a some dude McAuliffe.

The death of immigration reform (at least until after Obama leaves office) will be a huge millstone around the neck of the 2016 Republican nominee -- and that's before we get to whatever bigoted contortions the nominee will have to twist himself into to get through the GOP primary.  Polls suggested that if immigration reform died, Latino voters would blame the GOP by a 3-1 margin.  And Clinton has been courting the Latino community for a long time -- since the 1990s.  Her performance in the 2008 primary suggests her brand is well-established there.

I think the recent Hobby Lobby ruling and utterly crass reaction from several right-wing men could have a similar galvanizing effect on women voters and Clinton is well-positioned to take advantage there as well.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Hillary getting overexposed? on: June 27, 2014, 02:28:48 am
No.  After six years away from electoral politics, this is an opportunity to get back into political "fighting form," experiment with political messaging and feel out the media in the relatively low pressure environment of a book tour.  It is essentially a test-run/listening tour for a presidential campaign.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary should have female opponents in the Democratic Primary on: June 26, 2014, 07:16:21 pm
I agree with this in theory, but it's also kinda ridiculous. Gillibrand running against her mentor, Hillary? That's less likely than Rubio and Jebby both running...

I agree it would be extremely difficult for Gillibrand to run against Hillary.  She would be instantly tagged as disloyal to the mentor who helped groom Kirsten for political office.  So perhaps she should be given a pass on this.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Hillary should have female opponents in the Democratic Primary on: June 26, 2014, 06:58:30 pm
So says Rebecca Traister, who specifically encourages Kirsten Gillibrand, Amy Klobuchar, Elizabeth Warren and Hillary to run.

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Viewing women as adversaries—ideologically and also within their own parties—is an urgent next step in helping the nation adjust to the idea that female politicians are just like, you know, regular politicians. That means we have to swiftly abandon the processional model, in which one diligent woman takes her hard-earned turn, while the next waits patiently in the wings.

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When a single avatar stands in for womankind, womankind projects onto that avatar its own varied ideas and priorities and standards. Clinton suffered from this last time, metaphysically unable to satisfy a million divergent hopes. She couldn’t be progressive enough, authentic enough, strong enough, stoic enough, or well-dressed enough for everyone. That’s part of why it’s dangerous for one woman to mean so much to so many.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118389/hillary-clinton-needs-female-primary-opponent-2016
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary's "Latino Problem"? on: June 24, 2014, 08:33:38 pm
Navarette is a conservative columnist so it's not exactly a surprise he is trashing Clinton.  His column conveniently omits Clinton's support for immigration reform and the DREAM Act, but of course those facts would not fit with the false narrative he is trying to create.  If Mr. Navarette would like to do something about the undocumented children here perhaps he could try supporting the DREAM Act himself instead of acting like an a$$ as he does in this column:

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I know just what a lot of those so-called DREAMers deserve to get for Christmas: a scolding. There are good and bad actors in every movement, and the bad ones -- if not kept in check -- can drag the good ones down with them.

At times, these young people act like spoiled brats. They don caps and gowns and disrupt committee hearings and occupy the offices of members of Congress. They dare police to arrest them, and then act surprised when it happens. They're not realistic, or respectful. They don't ask. They demand.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/19/opinion/navarette-dreamers/

So sorry, Mr. Navarette.  SOMEONE has a Latino problem, but it isn't Hillary or her party.  Latino voters know that what Republicans (and you) are offering them is a turd on a plate and vote accordingly.  You can go back and dream up some other obfuscation for the Right while the GOP continues to fail to act on immigration reform, passes more voting restrictions, opposes an increase in the minimum wage and makes more racist comments. 
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Sen-IL 2016; Michelle proves she's not Hillary Clinton on: June 24, 2014, 01:38:04 am
The only way I see her running is if she really wants to tick off the GOP after their attempts to gut her school lunch programs (given she would win the seat in a walk if she ran), but I don't think she has the fire in the belly. She has also emphatically denied that she will run, did Hilldawg do that prior to her 2000 NY-Sen run?

From what I recall, when the rumor first surfaced in early 1999 about First Lady Hillary Clinton running for the U.S. Senate, the response from Hillaryland was a curious silence.  I do remember vague statements about being flattered (we later learned that several N.Y. politicians were encouraging her to run) but she had "no plans" to do so.  By the spring this had morphed into statements that she was considering her options.  By June 1999 she was actively and openly exploring a run.

At this point in the 2000 cycle (June 1998) the possibility of Hillary running was on nobody's radar.  So Michelle Obama is experiencing scrutiny at a much earlier date.  There's still time for her to change her mind but I think she will probably not run.

8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Christie on how he'd treat legal marijuana states: "Not Well" on: June 21, 2014, 01:03:14 am
As an aside, at the recent CNN Town Hall, Hillary Clinton hedged her bets but left the door open to marijuana legalization:

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As for recreational marijuana, Clinton displayed a similarly cautious but open approach. "On recreational, you know, states are the laboratories of democracy," Clinton said. "We have at least two states that are experimenting with that right now. I want to wait and see what the evidence is."

http://mic.com/articles/91481/hillary-clinton-just-said-the-one-thing-medical-marijuana-supporters-have-been-waiting-to-hear
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Brian Schweitzer on Eric Cantor and Dianne Feinstein on: June 20, 2014, 06:54:13 pm
Brian Schweitzer is not ready for prime time and has no business being on a national ticket. 
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: June 2014 Federal Election - President, VP and Regional Senators on: June 20, 2014, 06:45:56 pm
President and Vice President
1. DemPGH and Windjammer

Pacific Senator
1. Tyrion
2. Flo
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: GOP releases god-awful ad against Hillary on: June 18, 2014, 12:36:49 am
It gets stranger -- the RNC is sending this squirrel around to Hillary's events.  She is being tracked by a giant squirrel.

So Hillary gets out of her car and gives the squirrel a copy of her book.

http://time.com/2892094/hillary-clinton-confronts-her-squirrel-stalker/

This all feels like an episode of Veep or a SNL skit waiting to happen.  It looks like we are in for a very bizarre presidential campaign.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should Democrats be happy abour Cantor's loss? on: June 14, 2014, 10:05:15 pm
Democrats interested in the Presidential race should be happy.  Winning Latino and Asian voters just got easier.  For Democrats who were praying for the miracle that immigration reform would somehow pass the House during this Congress, their hopes have been dashed.

...or the next Congress. Or the next. Or even the one after that. Cantor's loss will seriously discourage bipartisan discussion on the issue and could derail such reform. For the rest of the decade.

That's fine. The only way anything ever gets done is when there is a Democratic House, Democratic President, and 60 Democratic Senators. Cantor's absence or presence isn't going to change that, but another Tea Party loon in Congress makes the march to supermajority easier.

If Eric Cantor was making serious noises about immigration reform--and he was--there was at least a decent chance of passing a compromise version of the Dream Act in the next congress. Any Republican with an ounce of pragmatism--includingg even the arch-conservative Cantor--realizes that it's necessary to recoup the mamoth losses among Hispanic and Asian voters since 2004, but isn't likely to undermine base turnout against Hillary substantially.

If you so fully believe sacrificing meaningful immigration reform is a worthwhile sacrifice so Democrats can continue dominating among Hispanic and Asian voters, then I'm happy for you.

To say that there was a "decent chance" of the Dream Act passing had Cantor been reelected is stretching it.  I would call it more of a "very low" chance given the nonstop excuses, foot-dragging and backpedaling we have seen from the the GOP House Leadership over the past 18 months on this issue.  And they were going to pass it in the next Congress under the pressure of the presidential cycle and their wingnut base?  Possible but I find it most unlikely.  Too many House Republicans have no motivation to pass immigration reform.  In their custom drawn conservative cocoon districts with a mostly white electorate their only worry is a Tea Party challenge.  

At any rate, Cantor lost, so the chances are now zero.  Which is too bad, but from a political standpoint Democrats are fine playing the hand we've been dealt by the GOP.

13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Anyone else a little antsy about the Dem nomination on: June 14, 2014, 09:30:14 pm
I'm just annoyed Biden isn't taken more seriously.

Biden has high name recognition and consistently bad poll numbers in presidential polling, so perception of him is already baked in and not in a good way.  In 2008 he got 1% in the Iowa Caucuses and then dropped out.  There isn't a reason to take him seriously.

Biden's name recognition is a lot lower than Hillary's. And in voter familiarity with Hillary and him, the disparity is even wider. Also, there's a better explanation for his poor polling (both in 2008 and now) than what people think of Biden himself, e.g in 2008, his competition. In 2014, his boss and his balls.

If Biden performed so poorly in the 2008 Iowa Caucuses because of his "competition" then that is essentially an admission he was a weak candidate.  He finished behind Obama, Clinton, John Edwards and Bill Richardson. 

As far as his current numbers, if he was only polling badly vs. Hillary that would be one thing.  But he looks mediocre against a lot of other potential opponents as well and as the sitting Vice President he has much higher name recognition than they do.

The Vice President has admirable qualities but his numbers are what they are.  And that is a huge red flag in terms of him getting the nomination.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should Democrats be happy abour Cantor's loss? on: June 14, 2014, 06:30:47 am
Democrats interested in the Presidential race should be happy.  Winning Latino and Asian voters just got easier.  For Democrats who were praying for the miracle that immigration reform would somehow pass the House during this Congress, their hopes have been dashed.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Anyone else a little antsy about the Dem nomination on: June 13, 2014, 12:56:14 am
I'm just annoyed Biden isn't taken more seriously.

Biden has high name recognition and consistently bad poll numbers in presidential polling, so perception of him is already baked in and not in a good way.  In 2008 he got 1% in the Iowa Caucuses and then dropped out.  There isn't a reason to take him seriously.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What does the Eric Cantor primary loss mean for 2016? on: June 12, 2014, 01:21:46 am
Prior to Cantor's loss I thought immigration reform had a 5% of passing the House.  The chance is now 0%.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: FL-SurveyUSA: Hillary Clinton up 6 against Bush, Biden down 9 on: June 12, 2014, 01:19:40 am
Yeah, I think its been noted before that Biden is the only Democrat who matches Hillary in terms of name recognition so his deficit against her and generally poor poll numbers is real (not to mention embarrassing).  Other Democrats could at least plausibly claim that they have "room to grow" due to a lack of name recognition.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What is the GOP's ceiling in regards to the Hispanic vote in 2016? on: June 11, 2014, 12:42:23 am
What I have read is that immigration is a "gateway" issue for a large number of Hispanic voters.  Supporting it won't automatically win Hispanic support, but if a candidate is perceived as hostile on the issue, they get tuned out.  And the GOP has done nothing to improve its standing with Latinos.

So long as the House GOP continues to hold up immigration reform (and particularly after Cantor's defeat I see no reason why that would change) I would guesstimate that 35% is the hard ceiling for a GOP Presidential candidate.

I'd also say that 29% would be roughly an average performance for a generic GOP candidate.  McCain did a bit better than average, getting 31%.  Romney, hobbled by a hardline anti-immigration stance and comments about "self-deportation" and "I'm running for office for Pete's sake, I can't have illegals" did worse at 27%.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Schweitzer: I'd be a better president than Hillary Clinton on: June 09, 2014, 02:26:41 am
I believe Schweitzer has calculated that he has absolutely no chance with the Democratic Establishment and is basically telling them f**k you.  That may play well with some of the anti-Hillary elements in our party, but those folks are very far from a majority of Democratic voters.  Perhaps he is trying to consolidate them early before someone else can?

Schweitzer's tactics are starting to resemble the sledgehammer approach John Edwards took toward Hillary in 2008.  And it probably contributed to her not getting the nomination.  But Edwards didn't get it either and Clinton is a much stronger candidate now than she was in 2008.

One can only hope Bernie finds enough of a hole to win.


I like Sanders but realistically, he would be a weak general election candidate. 
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Gun to your head: Do you think Hillary Clinton will run for POTUS in 2016 ? on: June 07, 2014, 03:50:44 am
Yes.  Both she and the Democratic Party are acting like she is preparing to run.  The latest evidence -- NPR notes that the release of Hard Choices looks like a Hillary campaign-in-waiting. 

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The book may not prove she's running, but it is exactly the book she would want to publish if she were.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2014/05/28/316682926/hard-sell-for-hard-choices-says-hillarys-running-in-2016




21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Schweitzer: I'd be a better president than Hillary Clinton on: June 07, 2014, 02:13:37 am
I believe Schweitzer has calculated that he has absolutely no chance with the Democratic Establishment and is basically telling them f**k you.  That may play well with some of the anti-Hillary elements in our party, but those folks are very far from a majority of Democratic voters.  Perhaps he is trying to consolidate them early before someone else can?

Schweitzer's tactics are starting to resemble the sledgehammer approach John Edwards took toward Hillary in 2008.  And it probably contributed to her not getting the nomination.  But Edwards didn't get it either and Clinton is a much stronger candidate now than she was in 2008.
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: WV-Rasmussen: After primary, Tennant (D) starts to gain on Capito (R) on: May 21, 2014, 10:02:39 pm
While it is unlikely that we will win this race, I have not given up all hope.  Democrats recruited a strong candidate for this race and if Capito slips up, I think Tennant will be poised to take advantage.  Whether Tennant will be the Robin Carnahan or Heidi Heitkamp of 2014 remains to be seen.

Now S.D.?  There's a race where I have given up all hope.

Capito =/= Berg.  Not even close. 

The Dems are in fine shape though.  If we just concede WV/SD/MT, we can pick up Kentucky and hold on to most seats(we're favored in all but Louisiana right now).

Those are the three I suspect we will lose as well.  But yes, while some of the incumbent Democratic senators running for reelection are in better shape than others, none are remotely close to "Blanche Lincoln territory."  What's primarily hurt us in the past are open seats.
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: WV-Rasmussen: After primary, Tennant (D) starts to gain on Capito (R) on: May 21, 2014, 06:35:01 pm
While it is unlikely that we will win this race, I have not given up all hope.  Democrats recruited a strong candidate for this race and if Capito slips up, I think Tennant will be poised to take advantage.  Whether Tennant will be the Robin Carnahan or Heidi Heitkamp of 2014 remains to be seen.

Now S.D.?  There's a race where I have given up all hope.
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: KY Senate Race 2014: Getting lucky in Kentucky on: May 21, 2014, 06:24:38 pm
From the look of things Grimes is putting out better quality political advertising than McConnell.  While that's only one facet of a campaign, it's a pretty important one.
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: KY-Bluegrass (SUSA): Grimes +1, McConnell safe in Primary on: May 21, 2014, 03:02:42 am
This is probably the closest senate race in the county based on the polling for the last 6 months.  Now that Bevin has been dispatched, will Grimes numbers hold up once McConnell turns his attack machine on her full time?  She has done well to keep up so far, but the next few months will be a big test for her campaign.  On the other hand, McConnell has never run against a candidate like Grimes before.

At present I'd have to still consider McConnell a slight favorite to win reelection, even with his horrible approval ratings.  Obama is a painful albatross for Grimes in KY, worse than for Michelle Nunn, who, as others have noted, has a large minority population to fall back on in GA.  Nunn also can continue to watch Perdue and Kingston claw at one another during the runoff campaign.  Grimes doesn't have that luxury.
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