It is worth noting that the Национальное движение «Алия Мустафина» has now recorded 100% turnout and a 100% yes vote. No other party can boast that its citizens are so involved in Atlasia.

To the surprise of absolutely nobody, the California Republican Party is composed of far-right extremists.

drj, you are forgetting your own party.

It literally could not be any more straightforward.

SECTION 2: ELECTORAL REGULATIONS
1.   All elections to regional offices, including but not limited to the Pacific Council, the Governorship, recall elections, and such, will be opened by the Governor of the Pacificans on the Voting Booth subboard. In an absence of the Governor, the Pacific Justice may open the thread. In a case of “anarchy”, defined as a lack of elections and/or a lack of any comprehensible regional Government, which may be interpreted liberally by the Federal Government at their advisory, the Secretary of Federal Elections (or any equivalent thereof) or the President of Atlasia may designate a Pacific Citizen to open a voting booth for the vacated offices in a time set by one of the designated federal officers.

I for one can think of no measure more important than freedom of the ballot. Without democracy, our nation cannot exist.

[spamage is elected as governor.]

You're not Governor.

First round
spamage: 5 (spamage, NVGonzalez, polnut, Superique, wan)
Progressive Realist: 3 (Progressive Realist, solopop, Antonio V)
20RP12: 2 (20RP12, morgieb)
None of the above: 1 (bgwah)

Second round
spamage: 6 (spamage, 20RP12, NVGonzalez, polnut, Superique, wan)
Progressive Realist: 4 (Progressive Realist, solopop, morgieb, Antonio V)
None of the above: 1 (bgwah)

spamage is elected as governor.

It is clear now which presidential ticket is on the side of right.

They were both his socks.

I'm trying to lose weight, so there was only one choice.

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You do realise a large proportion of this forum has never eaten at In 'n' Out?

Yes, and it's terribly sad that they haven't been able to live a normal life.

Also, I wasn't really trying with capitalization!

Summary of this thread.

Do you doubt Bushie's existence? I don't find his story all that difficult to believe.

He's lied many times.  He's admitted to many lies, usually after he's called out on something.  There are presumably other lies that he's never admitted to, because he wasn't caught.  So yeah, I'm sure some of what he says is true and some isn't.  Not worth trying to sort out what goes into which category.

He lies to make himself look better. AFAIK, he has never been caught in a lying to make himself look worse, which is pretty remarkable when you stop and consider all the foolishness over the years. I feel pretty confident in the validity of his obesity, chronic unemployment, time oriented neuroses, and so on. By far, the biggest hole in his story is financial. He's no doubt injured his parents far, far more than he's let on.

This post is funny to me because it reminds me of what you were saying two years ago.

Other posters aren't the ones making you look dumb, Bushie. You've repeatedly made some very bad choices, so much so that half the forum thinks you must be a fraud because no real person could make so many bad choices. I don't know the details of your financials, but I suspect they're pretty scary at this point. You need to get creative in looking for income. Have you considered getting a roommate for your house? That's an easy few hundred/month right there. If possible, you could even rent out the house and move home with your parents. If your mom really does need to retire, having an extra wage earner in the house could come in handy, even if it's only $8-$10/hour. There are all kinds (and I do mean all kinds) of odd jobs you can find on craigslist. Can you mow yards? Paint houses? Are you comptetant enough at any subject to tutor kids? I know a lot of people who have delivered pizzas to help make ends meet. It pays fairly well and requires almost no skills. Above all, find something that is sustainable. By now, you can probably see how destructive changing jobs frequently can be.

More riots going on tonight, now in Botkyrka and Malmö as well.

Sigh, obviously these people will only end up making things worse for themselves, why don't they understand that?

It's hard to imagine a better course of action for the rioters. They're systematically excluded from society and as a result face tremendous limitations in the political sphere that prevent legal action. Protests would presumably be met with jeers and insults; a party based on immigrant identity would be powerless. Not an insight but I think it's important to point out.

Yeah, clearly the Swedes are the problem here.  They should leave and let these people take over.  The countries they came from are perfect and they just want to spread that perfection to Sweden (and France and the UK and ...).

These people, huh?

Yea

Congratulations on your election! If I may make a suggestion, it would be a good idea to appoint a Chief Justice in accordance with the Constitution (pending approval by the soon-to-be-elected Council).

[Se revoca NVGonzalez como gobernador.]

RESULTADOS OFICIALES

¿Debe ser revocado el gobernador NVGonzalez?

Sí: 7 (spamage, 20RP12, polnut, Progressive Realist, solopop, morgieb, Antonio V)
No: 4 (NVGonzalez, Superique, wan, bgwah)

Se revoca NVGonzalez como gobernador.

¿Si se revoca el gobernador, quién debe reemplazarle como gobernador?

Primera vuelta
spamage: 5 (spamage, NVGonzalez, polnut, Superique, wan)
Progressive Realist: 3 (Progressive Realist, solopop, Antonio V)
20RP12: 2 (20RP12, morgieb)
Voto en blanco: 1 (bgwah)

Segunda vuelta
spamage: 6 (spamage, 20RP12, NVGonzalez, polnut, Superique, wan)
Progressive Realist: 4 (Progressive Realist, solopop, morgieb, Antonio V)
Voto en blanco: 1 (bgwah)

Se elige spamage como gobernador.

El voto de thrillr1111 es inválido porque thriller1111 no es un ciudadano de Atlasia. El voto de Politics Junkie es inválido porque Politics Junkie no ha sido registrado en Atlasia durante una semana.

[NVGonzalez is recalled as governor.]

OFFICIAL RESULTS

Should Governor NVGonzalez be recalled?

Yes: 7 (spamage, 20RP12, polnut, Progressive Realist, solopop, morgieb, Antonio V)
No: 4 (NVGonzalez, Superique, wan, bgwah)

NVGonzalez is recalled as governor.

If the governor is recalled, who should replace him as governor?

First round
spamage: 5 (spamage, NVGonzalez, polnut, Superique, wan)
Progressive Realist: 3 (Progressive Realist, solopop, Antonio V)
20RP12: 2 (20RP12, morgieb)
None of the above: 1 (bgwah)

Second round
spamage: 6 (spamage, 20RP12, NVGonzalez, polnut, Superique, wan)
Progressive Realist: 4 (Progressive Realist, solopop, morgieb, Antonio V)
None of the above: 1 (bgwah)

spamage is elected as governor.

thrillr1111's vote is invalid because thrillr1111 is not a citizen of Atlasia. Politics Junkie's vote is invalid because Politics Junkie has not been registered in Atlasia for one week.

Does anyone wanna catch me up on what happened in the Pacific Region?
(I'm new to Atlasia.)

Bgwah stopped holding significant office and the region imploded

That is a massive oversimplification at best.

Basically, participation and interest in Atlasia is cyclical. For the last year or so it had been high, but now it's fallen off. The problem is that the most recent increase in participation led to a dramatic increase in public offices; when participation declined, as it always has, that led to those offices being filled largely by people who were inactive. This was especially bad in the Pacific Region, as the drop in participation coincided with the departure of wolfentoad, who had been able to amass a significant base in the Pacific; when he disappeared, Pacific politics largely disappeared with him.

I've been reading classic Update lately. Let's relive some great stuff that we might have forgotten.

In this installment, our hero is looking for a job. He's already failed out of two call centers, so he's trying to avoid that career path. Luckily, he has something!

I've got two job possibilities to throw your way.  So get your judging hats on and here we go.  I will say up front that neither of these are call centers or customer service.  I will type the ad verbatim as it is in the Sunday paper.

1) Attention $16.36 to start. Local Co. in Norman area expanding. Several positions available. No experience necessary. We offer full and part time training. Rapid advancement. Call xxx-xxxx after 9 AM. Interview Monday Only.

2) Coca-Cola - Great Plains Coca-Cola Bottling Co accepting applications for:  Merchandisers PT & FT Day shifts must be available to work between the hours of 5a & 5p all days of week.  Drug and Tobacco free environment. Applicant must pass pre-emloyment drug screen, have clean criminal history, and pass a physical.  Apply M-F 9a-3p at 600 N. May or online at www.greatplainscocacola.com.

So he has the option of either stocking vending machines for Coca-Cola or answering this ad that doesn't even say what the job is. Everyone tells him that the obvious scam is obvious, and our hero agrees, but he just needs to make sure that he leaves no stone unturned.

If it doesn't tell you what the job is, it's a scam. Period.

It probably is.  I'm going to call them anyway just to see what job it is not so much because I want to pursue it, but more to educate myself on what jobs those type of ads usually represent.

So instead of looking at job 2, he decides to pursue job 1.

I went down to Norman to figure out what that $16.36/hr job is.  It's actually not at all what any of us thought, nor as scary or questionable.  It is a mix of receptionist and general labor for Rainbow Play Systems, helping build playground equipment.  My hours are a lot better than where they have been with Sprint and Convergys - 9:30-6:30 M-F.  It said no experience necessary because he wants to teach us from the ground up.  I will know the answer by 6:00 this evening, but I am very confident in how I did in the interview.  If he calls me and hires me, I will report to work at 9:30 tomorrow morning!!  The first paycheck will come April 1 and every two weeks after that.  They do offer full benefits starting May 1.

It's a real job building playgrounds! It's not a call center or a pyramid scheme, and it wouldn't involve interaction with customers (which is not our hero's strong suit). It sounds great. There are a couple of red flags (the company is willing to hire people to start the day after their interview and they don't actually have an office in Norman, Oklahoma and there's no reason a reputable company would have a job listing in the newspaper like that in the first place), but those can be explained away. From the perspective of our hero, Job 1 worked out, so there's no need to even look at Job 2. Nonetheless, speculation abounds.

Translation: Bushie sells playground sets to indebted middle class Oklahoman families door to door, installs them, and gets paid a commission on top of a small monthly salary.  

Here we go again, folks.

Then the dam bursts.

ITS another KIRBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its Rainbow Cleaning Systems..

Holy Crap

I am assuming this is the ad you saw

http://oklahoman.careercast.com/careers/jobse...

Plug the phone number they give you into yellow pages, and well it comes up as a Fax# but this is what you get

http://www.yellowpages.com/norman-ok/mip/rain...

Find the website and well....  even the whole request a demonstration is there

http://www.rainbowsystem.com/rainbowsystem/ma...


Boomshackalacka

Rexair's products are introduced to prospective customers through one-on-one, in-home presentations. Our products have been successfully sold this way for more than 70 years.

And for sh**ts and giggles

Of course its a multi-level marketing scam

(For reference, Kirby is a company that sells remarkably overpriced vacuums door-to-door. Our hero's failed employment there may someday be the subject of another installment of classic Update.)

So it turns out that our hero has been flat-out lying about the nature of the job, but that doesn't faze him. He quickly admits it and then moves on. Little matters like where exactly he works and what exactly he does are unimportant to our in-house Reverend.

I do have the job now, and report tomorrow 9:30-6:30.  While, yes, you are correct that this is actually Rainbow Cleaning Systems, and I will function like I did with Kirby, I am actually guaranteed an hourly salary with this one and I will make sure I get it in writing when I go in for orientation tomorrow.  If they don't give it to me in writing, I'm walking right out the door and will not return Wednesday.  If, on the other hand, they do give me the $16.36 an hour as they promised, I will do whatever they say.  If they say jump, I'll ask how high.  The main reason I left Kirby back in early September was because they were wanting to work me 7 days a week and laughed when I wanted a day off to let my body rest.  This guy at Rainbow today said that I can work whenever I want for a minimum of 30 hours per week.  He prefers we put in 40, but he wants at least 30.  I know I probably could have found a better opportunity, but right now I need something that will pay the bills, even if it is selling vacuum cleaners.  I know it's a dirty job (literally!), but I'm gonna do it.  I'm going down there tomorrow morning with a more determined focus.  I wasn't really focused with Ameriplan or with Kirby back late last summer, but I will be focused here.  I should have come out and said it earlier, I admit, but at the time I was still coming to grips with the fact that I would be presenting cleaning systems.  It took some time for me to get used to the idea, but I accept it now and I will embrace it.  As far as the $16.36 goes, I have every intention to believe that, because he said today that my check will be no less than $981.60 every two weeks, possibly and probably more.  It's all based on how much I work, not on my performance.  This isn't MLM, this isn't profit sharing or a commission job, it is a salary.  If you divide $981.60 by $16.36, it comes to 30 hours.  I plan to work 40 hours, so my check should be more than that $981.60.  He said I have a flexible schedule, so I am going to choose to work 9:30-6:30 M-F.  I can always change that if situations arise.  If I'm sick in the middle of the week, I'll just go in Saturday.  As my Dad said, "at least it's not a call center.  It's a whole different line of work than you're used to, and it may not be the most pleasant or what I would have picked, but hang on to this one with all you've got.  Don't let the Oklahoma wind knock it out of your hand.  Believe in yourself and you can do it.  It may be vacuum cleaners, but hang onto it anyway, your Mom needs to retire."  Mom reiterated the same thing.

Oh, and intermoderate, I did fill out an application at Coca-Cola this afternoon, as well.  They said it might be a week before i hear anything.  I haven't heard back from that call center or that order puller place, yet.  So I'm pretty much crossing them off the list.

In the view of our hero (and his parents, who continue giving awful advice as always), the problem with Ameriplan and Kirby wasn't that he was trying to scam people into buying things they didn't need, but rather that he wasn't committed enough to scamming people. Our in-house Reverend is the Boxer of scamming: he will try harder.

Naturally, the thread ends up with this:

This may sound like a cheap way out, but I'm going to save all of us a bunch of endless back-and-forth and lock this thread.  It's certain that you're not going to get through to me and it's certain I'm not going to get through to you.  I'm not leaving the forum (although I probably should), but I'm going to go back to doing what I came to the forum to do - talk about politics.  Isn't there a presidential race coming up?  Isn't some guy named Gangreen or something like that running?  Oh, that's right, it's Gingrich!! My bad!!

I may unlock this thread from time to time, but for now the door is closing it.  This thread will serve as a reminder that when stubborn heads get together, you can't get anywhere.

I personally ask that there would be no mimicking update threads, just let it go.  If you want to keep up with my updates, go to facebook (you'll have to take it for what its worth, which is nothing).

THE END

NOT QUITE THE END

If you're interested in following the entire Rainbow Play/Cleaning Systems saga (which I strongly encourage), start with the first post quoted here and continue to the last post, at which point the thread is locked. To read what happens after that, download BRTD's Lost Update PDF; the relevant portion starts on page 52 and continues to the end of the document. After that you can return to the Update thread from which all the quotes in this post come; there's some slight overlap between the end of the lost Update and that thread, but it shouldn't be hard to follow.

Over 40.

Years ago I proposed that the region be renamed the Filthy South. I still stand by this.

I may be in Yosemite over the weekend. Tuesday would work best.

If I may speak for those who have moved to the Pacific, this isn't about carpetbagging. This is about trying to restore functionality to the Pacific Region; there's not enough activity within the Pacific Region for it to fulfill the duties placed upon it by its constitution, so activity has had to come from without.

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Национальное движение «Алия Мустафина» - связан с Лейбористской партии, атлас империалистического фронта, атлас движения в защиту избирательных свободы, и исламистской лодке хунты
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Is it really so hard for you to post in English here? I don't care what you do elsewhere in Atlasia, but you must understand that I don't understand Cyrillic and would have to resort to a questionable Google translation to decipher your registration. Please don't make my job any more difficult than it needs to be.

The post was clarified directly below:

(I re-registered to California)

That was a remarkable episode. I like it more the more I think back on it.