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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israel General Election Thread: March 17 2015 on: May 06, 2015, 03:46:59 pm
This is going to be quite the government for the next six months. Do Kahlon and Kulanu get wiped out next election for supporting the most right wing government in Israeli history and getting little out of it? Stay tuned.

Is Kahlon not getting Finance? Why do you assume he will get nothing?

He's getting a cabinet ministry, yeah. I meant getting none of his agenda through (because, seriously, no legislation of any type's coming through the 61/120 government).
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israel General Election Thread: March 17 2015 on: May 06, 2015, 03:34:54 pm
This is going to be quite the government for the next six months. Do Kahlon and Kulanu get wiped out next election for supporting the most right wing government in Israeli history and getting little out of it? Stay tuned.
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israel General Election Thread: March 17 2015 on: May 06, 2015, 02:37:21 pm
Question: when you say "Today," do you mean "within the next 83 minutes" or is it midnight of the following day?
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israel General Election Thread: March 17 2015 on: May 06, 2015, 11:37:28 am
Isn't it about time we opened up a thread on a more populated board like International General about these coalition negotiations?

Also, given the mandatory coalition-building time for the second and third place parties and the time for the election season itself, this hypothetical second election would be...what, October? November?
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Bill Clinton on: May 05, 2015, 05:53:22 pm
Sure, moving from Michael Dukakis' 46% of the vote in 1988 to Bill Clinton's 43% of the vote in 1992 is a sign of a once-in-a-lifetime political genius. Simply not losing ground when the other party's candidate collapses due to a party schism is a political feat worthy of a mastermind.

EDIT: Seriously, though, all sarcasm aside, it is healthy to remember that a larger share of Americans voted for Michael Dukakis to be their president in 1988 than voted for Bill Clinton to be their president in 1992 when considering the degree to which the Democratic Party was in peril in the late 1980s, and I think there's a very strong case indeed to be made that the cure (the Clintons) was far worse than the disease (especially since the Democratic Party was clearly already on a rebound from 1986 onwards).

Are you seriously peddling the myth that Bush would've been re-elected if Perot wasn't in the race?

Mikado didn't mention that. However, when he says that going from 46% to 43% isn't exactly a major achievement or realignment, he's right. Michael Dukakis was the wrong candidate at the wrong time and this whole "move to the center in order to win" argument that Clinton put forward didn't help the party that much (see 2000/2004, 1994). Michael Dukakis might even have won if he had run in 1992. Clinton's strengths and achievements are overrated.

^^^

This guy gets it.
6  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Bill Clinton on: May 05, 2015, 01:00:01 am
Sure, moving from Michael Dukakis' 46% of the vote in 1988 to Bill Clinton's 43% of the vote in 1992 is a sign of a once-in-a-lifetime political genius. Simply not losing ground when the other party's candidate collapses due to a party schism is a political feat worthy of a mastermind.

EDIT: Seriously, though, all sarcasm aside, it is healthy to remember that a larger share of Americans voted for Michael Dukakis to be their president in 1988 than voted for Bill Clinton to be their president in 1992 when considering the degree to which the Democratic Party was in peril in the late 1980s, and I think there's a very strong case indeed to be made that the cure (the Clintons) was far worse than the disease (especially since the Democratic Party was clearly already on a rebound from 1986 onwards).
7  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: Hitler dies in 1938...how is he remembered/what changes? on: May 04, 2015, 11:45:29 pm
The second half of the question is less important than the first here.

This hypothetical presumes Adolf Hitler's death in April 1938, a month after German annexation of Austria. Death of natural causes, perhaps in a car crash. How does the NSDAP respond to the sudden leadership crisis? Are plans for Czechoslovak expansion put on hold? Does history remember Hitler in a much more positive light and elide over the destruction of Jewish rights and multiparty democracy?

Nothing in changes , Nazism was the main  not just Hitler

My bigger question is whether Adolf Hitler is portrayed in a positive light in some "respectable" circles as a skilled statesman who annexed Austria and made Germany a great power again while the debacle of losing the war etc would just be blamed on his successor.
8  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: U.S. birth rates slide as Millennials enter the age of marriage and childbearing on: May 04, 2015, 02:11:25 pm
Late to this point, but I think everyone saying that this generation is just redefining the "ready for childbearing" age from early-to-late-20s to late-20s-to-mid-30s are pretty much on the mark. I don't think that this is going to be a childless generation, just one late to the childbearing party.

TL;DR I think that we will see 20something women's fertility continue to slowly decline, but 30something women's fertility will stay steady or even increase somewhat.
9  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Bill Clinton on: May 04, 2015, 12:04:58 am
I have a very, very low opinion of Bill Clinton. He's one of the worst men to occupy the White House in the last century (and only "one of" the worst to create an exception in case someone wanted to bring up literal caricature of a human being Richard Nixon as a contender).

It astounds me that there are people I generally agree with who feel that putting the Clinton clan back in the White House is a good idea in any way, shape, or form.
10  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Can someone have faith in a personal god and still lead a scientific life? on: May 03, 2015, 11:59:18 pm
Could someone please explain what a scientific life is? I still don't get it. Science is a career path and a field of knowledge, not a lifestyle.
11  General Discussion / Alternative History / Hitler dies in 1938...how is he remembered/what changes? on: May 03, 2015, 04:54:29 pm
The second half of the question is less important than the first here.

This hypothetical presumes Adolf Hitler's death in April 1938, a month after German annexation of Austria. Death of natural causes, perhaps in a car crash. How does the NSDAP respond to the sudden leadership crisis? Are plans for Czechoslovak expansion put on hold? Does history remember Hitler in a much more positive light and elide over the destruction of Jewish rights and multiparty democracy?
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SCOTUS: Roberts sides with liberals, weakens Citizens United on: April 29, 2015, 12:10:54 pm
I don't get the title of the thread. What does prohibiting judges from soliciting donations have to do with donating unlimited sums to third party advocacy groups?
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Kids of Republicans pull parents to the left on gay marriage on: April 28, 2015, 10:59:11 pm
The facts are that opponents of traditional marriage are heralded by Hollywood, press, and social circles. The rest of us are basically trash as far as you're concerned. That doesn't sound like a democracy. It sounds like a juggernaut.
Well at least you support polygamy, Citizen Fascist.

I support traditional marriage
You are aware that the most numerous form of marriage in the Bible is polygamy right?
Citation needed.

Solomon's 700 wives probably alone outnumber the partners involved in every single-partner couple in the Bible, Old and New Testament combined.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Hi all... on: April 27, 2015, 07:28:55 pm
Hi Sam. I think you have a fair point about the forum's echo chamber status, which is how I've found myself in the shocking position of being relatively bullish on the long-term prospects of the GOP as opposed to the forum consensus.

I actually left this place for about six months a year ago, only to come back, but it was a good decision and I should've stuck with it.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather live in Connecticut or Nebraska? on: April 26, 2015, 10:17:00 am
Nebraska because I have family there and don't know anyone in Connecticut.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What will be the "big" Social Issues in 2050? on: April 25, 2015, 10:07:05 pm
I'm very surprised I'm the only person in the thread to say immigration (unless I missed someone). It's the obvious answer and is a very, very safe bet. As long as the USA exists, it will have immigration debates.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: I see the GOP being the dominant Party in the US for decades to come on: April 25, 2015, 10:05:39 pm
The GOP is alive and well thanks in part to there being two different American electorates. The one that shows up in years not divisible by four is very, very Republican.

Democrats would be foolish to underestimate this. Republicans can, do, and will continue to win elections even if they do get wiped out on the Presidential race, and their incredible power at the state and local level blunts much of the impact of the Democratic hold on the White House. That, too, can change, especially if the next big economic downturn happens on the watch of a President Clinton.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gay marriage opponents' strategy uncertain in 2015 on: April 25, 2015, 04:32:43 pm
As much as I usually hate cliches, the "if you don't like same sex marriage, don't have one" line is concise and gets right at the heart of the matter and why the opponents of SSM are losing. SSM opponents can...not get married to a same-sex spouse. You could even call it a boycott!
By that logic, we should also legalize polygamy (because you can...not have a polygamous marriage!) and public nudity (because you can...wear clothes!).

I fail to see the problem with the former, and there are important sanitary and health concerns with public nudity (especially the barefoot aspect...broken glass on the sidewalk leads to litigation against the city etc.)

Public nudity: leaving people outside without identification, money, keys, or any of the other essentials for being outside. Totally safe and totally similar to SSM.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: vandals destroy michael brown memorial less than 24 hours after it is dedicated on: April 25, 2015, 04:29:11 pm
What does it matter what a person did in life to affect the rights of the grieving bereaved relatives of that person? Even your Lee Harvey Oswalds and Timothy McVeighs have relatives and loved ones, and while you might justifiably think that the world is a better place for not containing Timothy McVeigh, that doesn't affect his loved one's equally valid right to mourn.

In this case, an alleged petty criminal who was never brought to trial or convicted was extrajudicially killed by law enforcement, even if out of self defense. We'll never know for sure if he was actually guilty under the rules of our criminal justice system because Michael Brown never got his day in court. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm not aware of "shot by law enforcement without a trial" as a valid punishment for theft in the United States.

Anyway, I thought the whole debate about the mourning of a loved one vs. society's hatred of that loved one's actions was solved way back with Antigone, Sophocles' amazing dramatic tale of the daughter of Oedipus going out of her way to give her half-brother a proper burial despite his status as a traitor and Thebes' king Creon decisions that Antigone's brother Polynices' corpse should be exposed and eaten by animals. Antigone's moving respect for her loved ones and family over all the rules of society, risking death itself to show the proper veneration of her family even in direct contravention of all the rules of the world she lived in, is directly relevant to this case. Does it matter what Michael Brown did? Does it matter who he may or may not have tried to kill? He is the child of mourning parents who have the right and even the duty to mourn publicly. Mourning and grief are fundamental and bedrock principles of any decent society, and even the wicked dead are truly unfortunate indeed if not even one person wails and moans about their passing.
20  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Women ministers and religion on: April 25, 2015, 01:48:56 pm
I think there's a very, very large gap between the popular view of what the role of women is in the Old Testament and what women actually do in the book.

That's because rather less people read it than used to (including many people who insist that they have read it, natch)... Sad

I always loved the story of how Barak was too scared to lead his troops in battle against Sisera and Deborah just called him a coward and shamed him into doing it by saying otherwise she'd lead troops against Sisera herself. And then after Barak wins, another woman, Jael, hammers a tent peg into Sisera's temple while he's sleeping and Deborah writes an epic song about the valiant Jael and Sisera's weeping mother. ALL of the characters in this story are women (Deborah, Jael, and Sisera's mourning mother) except for the cowardly Barak and the villainous Sisera.
21  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Women ministers and religion on: April 25, 2015, 01:42:21 pm
While Orthodox Judaism only has male rabbis, both Conservative and Reform permit women rabbis. As stated before in this thread, there's Old Testament precedent, especially with figures like Miriam (who not only spoke to God directly, but also led the Israelites in prayer..."Who is like you, O God, amongst the gods that are worshipped?" etc) and Deborah, who not only spoke to God but was a general(!) in addition to being a prophetess.

I think there's a very, very large gap between the popular view of what the role of women is in the Old Testament and what women actually do in the book.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gay marriage opponents' strategy uncertain in 2015 on: April 25, 2015, 01:11:46 pm
As much as I usually hate cliches, the "if you don't like same sex marriage, don't have one" line is concise and gets right at the heart of the matter and why the opponents of SSM are losing. SSM opponents can...not get married to a same-sex spouse. You could even call it a boycott!
23  General Politics / Economics / Re: For Leftists mainly: Guaranteed Income vs Guaranteed Employment on: April 25, 2015, 01:24:59 am
They both have downsides. Guaranteed employment makes me think of absurd make-work programs (breaking and replacing windows or digging and filling ditches) because there simply isn't enough work to go around for the entire labor force, and 0% unemployment (as in "anybody who wants a job has a job") will be terrible for people who are hiring and need to expand their labor force. The negative economic distortion of a guaranteed income seems less severe than guaranteed employment, which would utterly screw up the job market, lead to massive inflation as wages skyrocket due to people having to raise salaries to attract people to new jobs, and probably slow the rise of new companies and lead to a more stifled economy.
24  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of cheerleaders on: April 22, 2015, 04:48:14 pm
Gymnastics is a great activity, and rallying school spirit before big games is a positive. A good cheer team contributes greatly to a school's atmosphere and is something that should be celebrated.
25  General Discussion / History / Re: Why was John Kerry such a compelling candidate for the Dem Establishment in '04? on: April 20, 2015, 10:13:22 pm
I've always found it baffling that people wanting a national security candidate picked the former head of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, of all people.
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