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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton VP news LATEST: Clinton interviews Castro, Hickenlooper, Warren on: July 16, 2016, 02:13:22 pm
A good dark horse VP choice would be former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson. He's Hispanic, but more qualified than Castro, Perez, and Becerra. He has good foreign policy experience and he governed a state. Plus, the Clintons should put the 2008 endorsement of Obama behind them.

isn't he, like, corrupt as heck, though?

Yeah, there are some issues there.

Yeah, a little, but he's experienced. He could be ready to be president on Day One.

Clinton's not picking a washed-up has-been who has been out of public life for five years and is nearly as old as she is.
2  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: What's more important: democracy, or liberalism/secularism? on: July 16, 2016, 01:08:58 am
The Turkish military may be secular, but it sure as hell isn't liberal by any functional definition, as the periods of time in which Turkey was under military rule in living memory can demonstrate. Kemalism is actually a pretty scary doctrine.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: A year ago today, did you expect the GOP nominee to be Trump? on: July 14, 2016, 11:33:44 pm
A year ago today? No.

11 months ago today? Yes.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: NBC/WSJ/Marist: Clinton up in CO, FL, NC, VA on: July 14, 2016, 11:32:45 pm
BEAUTIFUL!!! Trump is getting destroyed in states where EDUCATEDS and BLACKS and HISPANICS get to vote!

Traitor.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Postpones VP Pick Announcement on: July 14, 2016, 07:19:58 pm
Trump now saying he might not do the joint 60 Minutes interview with his VP pick after all.

For those of you who are too young to have watched network television, 60 Minutes is on Sunday.
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who'll be Trump's VP? on: July 10, 2016, 03:08:27 pm
Ivanka Trump.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump meeting with Sen GOP goes about as well as you'd expect on: July 08, 2016, 01:16:32 am
Joe Lieberman killed his Presidential chances not by running as an Independent, but by endorsing McCain.  Had he not done so, Lieberman, and not Biden, may well have been the Democratic nominee for VP in 2008. 

This is nonsense. Lieberman was a borderline pariah in the Democratic Party after 2006 and was reluctantly tolerated because he had the balance of the majority in his grasp. He was never going to be on the ticket in 2008, especially for Obama, who was running as a dove (even if he ended up considerably more hawkish after taking office).
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: BREAKING: Shots fired at BLM protest in downtown Dallas, TX on: July 07, 2016, 11:51:11 pm
CNN confirms 11 officers shot, 3 dead, one civilian is wounded. Believe there are two snipers, and that a bomb may have been planted.

This is terrorism.

No, it's revenge.

How are those exclusive? Terrorism is a tactic. Revenge is a motive.

How is this not terrorism, which is literally using violent ends to influence politics?
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton & Trump VP news LATEST: Corker and Ernst withdraw on: July 07, 2016, 11:20:07 pm
Really? I've always interpreted the 17th Amendment to mean that a legislature can either give a governor the option to appoint a temporary replacement or not. The notion that that appointment power could be given in a restricted manner is novel to me.

Tell that to Hawaii, which requires the governor pick a replacement from a list provided by the former Senator's party.  Or Arizona, Utah or Wyoming, which require an appointee be from the same party as the former Senator.

I've gotta be honest, I've never really bothered to look into any of that before. Still, I have to wonder whether or not that would hold up in court if a governor ever challenged it.

A decade ago, the sitting GOP Senator in Wyoming died and the Democratic governor was forced by that law to pick a GOP Senate replacement (IIRC it was the state party submitted three names and the governor had to pick one of the three).

These laws have been used before, they're not just hypothetical.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton & Trump VP news LATEST: Corker withdraws, Ernst appears to withdraw on: July 06, 2016, 01:05:15 pm
Deirdre Walsh ✔ @deirdrewalshcnn
Corker tells @mkraju he's withdrawing from Trump's VP consideration & adds: "His best running mate, by the way, would be Ivanka"
12:52 PM - 6 Jul 2016

I tend to agree with Corker on this...either Ivanka or her husband Jared Kushner would be better for Trump than, say, Newt Gingrich would be.
11  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is 50% a Sufficient Threshold for Major Referenda? on: July 06, 2016, 12:20:42 pm
When Montenegro seceded from Serbia 10 years ago, they used a 55% threshold. Independence got 56% and passed.

I think 55% makes a lot of sense for something that monumental.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton & Trump VP news LATEST: Trump vetting Corker Flynn Gingrich Christie etc on: July 06, 2016, 12:06:47 pm
Corker and Ernst are out, yeah. That cuts down the list considerably.
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Capitals of states on: July 05, 2016, 01:13:25 pm
Texas' capital was originally Houston, but that was before statehood and it was nowhere close to being the largest city at that time.

And Houston was a malarial hellhole then and people kept dying from disease.

Houston is still a hellhole, but it has the malaria under control now. Wink
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Is the destruction and annihilation of culture in the US inevitable? on: July 05, 2016, 01:10:30 pm
Did Americans have culture to begin with? /european

Someone's never been to Louisiana. Very, very distinct.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Is the destruction and annihilation of culture in the US inevitable? on: July 02, 2016, 02:37:18 pm
Is there a more cultural traditionalist candidate than Bernie Sanders? He just reeks of a far bygone era of radical old Jewish men reading Socialist newspapers in Yiddish and trying to awkwardly inject themselves into labor disputes. Bernie Sanders is about the most old-fashioned, traditional, throwback candidate out of the whole two-dozen odd of them.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Yiannopoulos, Crowder, et al.--why do we even know about these people? on: June 29, 2016, 11:58:01 pm
Nathan...I normally read your posts, but this is a bit long - I'll just presume it's the subject argued sensibly. But have you seen Milo's social media? Like legit. Just saw these fabulous white jeans. $549. What a dream! <3 You know how hard it is to find something this legit?! I had to go to 5 stores! (Yes, I did precede him on this trend Tongue)



How many useless things go viral? At least this man has some tastefulness.

As ridiculous as it sounds, you have a point. Milo is iconic and very carefully branded. Milo knows how to market himself. He not only says outlandish things and does outlandish stunts, he has his own iconic dress style, pattern of speech, and so on. He has a fully-packaged persona.

It's not at all surprising to me that he's become a hit, he understands marketing on an instinctual level.

Milo's a vile person, but the man knows how to establish a clear brand. He's the fabulously flamboyant gay man who will say shocking racist and misogynistic things in a camp gay British voice while in impeccable outfits. As it turns out, there's a very real market for such a figure, and he never goes off-brand.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump backers: What are they? on: June 29, 2016, 11:48:48 pm
Over 2/5ths of the electorate.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Congrats to Senator Bennett... on: June 29, 2016, 02:35:29 am
Republicans dug their own grave here. Bennet was never going to be easy for them to take down, but they've done just about everything wrong that they could.

Yep...

I think Bennet may be the luckiest Senator currently in office. Has any other Senator had their winnable seat handed to them twice in a row by an incompetent state party?

The COGOP makes the FL Dems look like dominant titans.

Harry Reid in his last two elections.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Congress candidate ad "Make America WHITE Again." Is this racism Trump's fault on: June 26, 2016, 01:59:41 am
I'm pretty sure the Rick Tyler for Congress ad is the Rick Tyler campaign's fault.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: California Democrats call for elimination of superdelegates and caucuses on: June 25, 2016, 11:49:31 am
Abolishing caucuses would be the single best reform we could take at this point.
21  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Which religions seek to actively convert people (besides Christianity & Islam)? on: June 24, 2016, 02:19:33 pm
Where does this crazy notion that Buddhism isn't a proselytizing religion come from? Buddhism was one of the most aggressively proselytizing religions out there. There's a good reason that Buddhist communities extend from Japan to India.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The Reagan's and their staff in the 1980's thought Trump's ego was "huge" on: June 23, 2016, 09:59:43 pm
Trump's ego isn't huge, it's yuge. Get it right.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Trump proclaims self "King of Debt:" All hail the king on: June 21, 2016, 02:36:17 pm
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Donald J. TrumpVerified account
‏@realDonaldTrump
I am "the king of debt."That has been great for me as a businessman, but is bad for the country. I made a fortune off of debt, will fix U.S.
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9:55 AM - 21 Jun 2016

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/745299161130635264

I didn't know we were in the presence of royalty!

How does one greet the King of Debt? What's his style? Is his succession partible...will we all gain a piece of his debt as a legacy when he passes?

All Hail King Donald, First of his name, by Grace of God King of Debt! Long Live King Donald!
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will Donald Trump still be a candidate for president by mid-July? on: June 20, 2016, 12:02:07 pm
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the GOP would have to suspend democracy

The majority of the GOP voted against Trump. So there's no suspension of democracy whatsoever.

Um...~43% of the GOP voting for Trump vs ~27% of the GOP voting for Ted Cruz is a pretty substantial lead over second place. If you think there's no suspension of democracy in allowing a guy with well over 2/5ths of the party who nearly doubled his nearest rival to win, how about the suspension of democracy involved with allowing literally anyone else to win?
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Lewandowski fired on: June 20, 2016, 11:25:51 am
Lewandowski fired like a dog. Sad!
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