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4551  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: One of the greatest articles I've ever read... on: July 19, 2011, 10:48:37 am
the idea that the 60s were a time period of anarchy and nonstop drugs and sex isn't completely true. My parents spent their grade school and high school years in the 60s and they said that the 60s that people think of didn't really start until around 1966/1967.

I would almost say that "The Sixties" began on 11/22/63 and ended on 8/9/74.  That's why I'd consider Animal House to be 1950's film.  8/9/74 to 11/4/80 might be the "The Hangover."  Smiley

Are you saying that almost half of the Sixties didn't actually take place during the Sixties??
4552  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Cain: Americans have the right to ban mosques on: July 19, 2011, 08:10:02 am
“The reason he will have a difficult time winning the South this time is because when he ran the first time, he did not do a good job of communicating his religion. It doesn’t bother me, but I know it is an issue with a lot of Southerners.”

“If you don’t win South Carolina, Georgia and Florida, you can’t win the nomination. And then you can’t win the presidency,” he said.

I suppose the same problem applies to black candidates who try to win the Republican nomination. Tongue
4553  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Alternative Elections / Re: Batman vs. Superman on: July 19, 2011, 07:54:14 am
I've been wanting to put this up for a little bit. What are their positions? Is either a member of a party? What are their areas of strength? How do their alter-egos affect the election? All questions I hope can be answered by repsonses of some sort.

Obviously, Batman is a Republican and Superman is a Democrat. One is a billionaire with a "necessary evil" attitude, the other is a journalist and do-gooder. Tongue
4554  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: The best Republican candidate. on: July 19, 2011, 05:05:46 am
The best Republican candidate is still Jimmy McMillan.
4555  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Cain: Americans have the right to ban mosques on: July 18, 2011, 02:19:30 pm
The separation of church and state guarantees the right of a community to ban the religious institutions of another community?  Good grief.

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.
4556  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: the sky is clear over all of Spain on: July 17, 2011, 06:49:05 am
Franco accessing power?

Start of the civil war.
4557  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Something is annoying me on: July 17, 2011, 06:41:55 am
Obama has caved in on almost every issue.

Tax cuts? Renew them all. Heck, I was against that.
Health care? A nice little mandate, not much else. Fair enough.
Carbon tax? Nah. Cap and trade. Huzzah!
Afghanistan? Stay the course!
Gay rights? We're evolving.
Balancing the budget? 83% spending cuts.

If this guy was a Republican, I'd seriously vote for him. After some hesitation. But if he was running for the nomination in 2012 (and Huntsman wasn't running), I'd vote for him in a heartbeat (if he had this record as a governor or whatnot).

So what's annoying me? Our liberal atheist Muslim socialist communist fascist President has turned into a Republican. That's great. But instead of showing how this proves that their platform is brilliant, the Republicans have chosen to run away from their successes. Was it not just in 2009 that conservatives' worst fear was a single-payer system? Last year it was the public option. Now it's the mandate. At this rate, next year the idea everyone should have health care will be communism. Oh wait, that's already happened.

Healthcare mandates? A Republican idea.
Cap and trade? A Republican idea.
Civil unions? A Republican idea.
Afghan surge? A Republican idea.
Spending cuts? A Republican idea. (plus two percentage points)


So why aren't you going to vote for Obama? Because he lacks an (R) next to his name?

Because that's not his platform?

You know, instead of hoping that that Republicans will become like the Democrats anytime soon, you should probably just switch parties. Would be much easier.
4558  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: One of the greatest articles I've ever read... on: July 16, 2011, 09:58:55 am
I guess the 1950s were great as long as you were a white male heterosexual Christian. For everybody else, it sucked. Same applies for pretty much every decade before the 50s, of course. Tongue
4559  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Do all Presidents fit their time? on: July 16, 2011, 05:10:26 am
Well, I’ll probably be the first of many to point out the 1950’s were a little more complicated than the “Happy Days” caricature, but so was “the General” so I guess it’s a wash. 

George W. Bush demonstrates why electing a person with blind faith, whether in religion, in a dogmatic ideology, or in Bush’s particular case, blind faith in the enduring greatness of America despite its underlying socio-economic problems, is a road to disaster.  His administration was oblivious to the limitations of its military because of a blind faith in the greatness of America.  It expanded the size and scope of government despite taking on huge military commitments because it was cocksure the good times would continue just the way they always have.  To doubt this was to be anti-American.  And this why I actually do feel like you could say his administration fit the times and people it represented to a certain degree.  Just replace cocksure military adventures with living beyond your means in general and replace blind faith in the American economy with blind faith in the value of your house always rising.  At this point I’d say we’re more aware of the foolishness of the past, but completely clueless of where to go from here.  It’s too early to tell, but maybe Obama represents that. 

You win this thread.
4560  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Is North Dakota a State? on: July 15, 2011, 06:30:05 pm
So, Bush actually didn't win then?

Why didn't Bush win when he had 268 electoral votes and Gore 267?
4561  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: interesting numbers re: the PRC overtaking US as global superpower on: July 15, 2011, 11:39:04 am
Funny how the United States' popularity was cut in half in countries like Germany, Spain, and  France with the switch from Clinton to Bush and then doubled again with Obama taking over.

One-third of the population is pro-American, one-third of the population is anti-American, and one-third simply hates Republicans and loves Clinton/Obama. Tongue

On the other hand, the political affiliation of the president doesn't have much effect in places like Poland (very positive view) or Jordan (very negative view).
4562  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Michele Bachmann (R) vs. John Wayne Gacy (D) on: July 15, 2011, 11:27:54 am
Jimmy McMillan (write-in)/Michele Bachmann
4563  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: List of Alternate Presidents on: July 14, 2011, 06:41:24 pm
Dynasty USA

1961-1969: John F. Kennedy

1969-1977: Robert F. Kennedy

1977-1985: George H. W. Bush

1985-1993: Ted Kennedy

1993-2001: George W. Bush

2001-2009: Maria Shriver

2009- : Jeb Bush
4564  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Will Perry Run? on: July 13, 2011, 11:02:08 am
Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer. Tongue
4565  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: What if Huntsman... on: July 13, 2011, 09:31:27 am
Would only make sense if Bachmann wins the nomination.
4566  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Bachmann: Pray Away the Gay on: July 13, 2011, 05:26:26 am
I would rather like to see homophobia "cured" at last.
4567  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: 2011 State Elections in Germany on: July 13, 2011, 05:16:16 am
Are the Greens still ahead in Berlin?

Haven't been since a poll in May.
4568  General Discussion / History / Re: McLaughlin group "picking" Clinton's running-mate in 1992 on: July 12, 2011, 05:27:23 pm
4569  General Discussion / History / Re: Interesting clip from 1992 . . . on: July 12, 2011, 09:44:38 am
In all fairness, the last time New Jersey had gone Democratic was in 1964.
4570  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Bachmann: Pray Away the Gay on: July 11, 2011, 05:59:46 pm
Damn, I wish this would have come out after she had won the nomination.

Why? This will give her a huge bounce in GOP primary polls.

I sure hope so.
4571  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Bachmann: Pray Away the Gay on: July 11, 2011, 05:50:33 pm
Damn, I wish this would have not come out after she had won the nomination.
4572  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Does 2012 still feel like an inverse 2004 to anyone else? on: July 10, 2011, 04:11:38 pm
In July 1983, Ronald Reagan's approval rating was 39%.
In July 1963, John F. Kennedy was still alive.

In July 2011, we know nothing about Obama's first term.

And in July 1991, George H.W. Bush had an approval rating of 72%. Wink
4573  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Forum Dems in denial about 2012 on: July 10, 2011, 03:37:17 pm

Bush/Giuliani vs. Dean/Kucinich?
4574  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Hi South Sudan ! on: July 10, 2011, 10:17:46 am
Sudan already means "Southern land" iirc. So North Southern Land is even more ridic than South Southern Land.

According to Wikipedia, "Sudan" is derived from the Arabic bilâd as-sűdân, which means "land of the Blacks".

Which makes the remainder of Sudan a bit of a misnomer, since most of the Sudanese blacks actually live in South Sudan.

South Sudan = Real Sudan, (North) Sudan = Fake Sudan Tongue
4575  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Hi South Sudan ! on: July 10, 2011, 04:09:31 am
The question is, will it become commonplace that the remainder of Sudan is colloquially referred to as "North Sudan"? Strictly speaking, both countries are officially called "Sudan" and "South Sudan" though.

Is the Commonwealth of Virginia commonly called East Virgina?
Is the Republic of Ireland commonly called Southern Ireland?
Back before Western Samoa rebranded itself as simply Samoa, was American Samoa ever called Eastern Samoa?

I doubt that Sudan will ever be called North Sudan, but I would not be surprised if once the thorny issues attached to independence are sorted out that South Sudan might pick another name for itself.

None of your examples include (two) sovereign nations though. On the other hand, the Republic of Korea (ROK) is commonly called "South Korea" for some reason.

I was asking because some news reports had already started to refer to the remainder of Sudan as "North Sudan", mostly to differentiate it from the south. So the question is how much of a traction it will gain.

"North Sudan recognises independent South Sudan: state TV" (http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE7670DP20110708)

"North Sudan army completes dismissal of southern members" (http://www.sudantribune.com/North-Sudan-army-completes,39452)

"North Sudan Army Demobilizes Southern Members" (http://www.voanews.com/english/news/africa/east/North-Sudan-Army-Demobilizes-Southern-Members-125151054.html)

"North Sudan troops control disputed town" (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/05/22/3223481.htm)

"North Sudan accused of bombing South" (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/06/11/3241531.htm)
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