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4676  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Happy Birthday, Boss Tweed. on: October 27, 2008, 09:04:28 am
Happy Birthday Mate.
4677  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Agree or Disagree: Day 19: The government should increase funding to NASA on: October 27, 2008, 08:55:02 am
I've copied and pasted this segment from West Wing, Season II, Episode ix before, I think on a debate about something like this. Nonetheless, it's one of my favourite episodes, so I'm going to put it out there again.

I talked to my dad. I'm sorry about Galileo.

They've got a lot of tests they can still try.

How much money is it gonna cost to try them?

Don't start with me.

I'm asking as a taxpayer. It cost 165 million dollars to lose the thing. How much more money is it gonna cost to make sure you're never gonna find it?

I don't know, Mallory, but we certainly won't divert any municipal tax dollars, which are always best spent on new hockey arenas.

No, it's best spent feeding, housing and educating.

There are a lot of hungry people in the world, Mal, and none of them are hungry because we went to the moon. None of them are colder, and certainly none of them are dumber 'cause we went to the moon.

And we went to the moon. Do we really have to go to Mars?



'Cause it's next. For we came out of the cave, and we looked over the hill, and we saw fire. And we crossed the ocean, and we pioneered the West, and we took to the sky. The history of man is hung on the timeline of exploration, and this is what's next.

I know.

People like you, who say that... [beat] What?

I said I know. We're supposed to be explorers.

Then what the hell?

I just want to hear you talk about it.

That's one of my favourite lines there. Actually, just about anything Sam says qualifies as one of my favourite lines - his rhythm is just such an aural delight, but here he explains why I agree with the proposition.
4678  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Diplomacy Game Thread on: October 27, 2008, 08:47:11 am
I should probably update the current status, in case anyone's confused about how many builds/disbands are required:

Build 2

Remove 1

No Change

Build 1

No Change

Remove 1

Build 1
4679  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Are rebel group names unoriginal? on: October 26, 2008, 10:44:59 pm
Watch Monty Python and the Life of Brian, if you haven't already.

Epic win, but Holy Grail was better.

Just yesterday I was thinking about that "bite in the night" scene from The Meaning of Life.
4680  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Diplomacy Game Thread on: October 26, 2008, 09:38:21 pm
I will post my retreat since it is kind of obvious...to Finland it is.

We are not amused.
Retreat to Burgundy, please.

No worries. I'll update the map tonight.

It being now winter 1906, if relevant nations could message me their build orders, I'll update that on the map tonight, too.
4681  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What's the last movie you've seen? on: October 26, 2008, 06:35:52 pm
Yesterday went to see How to Lose Friends and Alienate People. I really enjoyed it.
4682  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What do I need to know about Australia? on: October 26, 2008, 09:58:03 am
Sorry, mate, we just don't seem to use the old laundromats all that much.

By the way, did you watch the Australia vs NZ match tonight?
4683  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Rhwymyncerbyd! on: October 26, 2008, 09:49:29 am
My great grandfather was from Merthyr Tydfil.
4684  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Diplomacy Game Thread on: October 26, 2008, 09:40:53 am
The moves for Fall 1906 are:

A Galicia - Warsaw
F Gulf of Lyon Hold
A Munich Supports A Berlin Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Piedmont - Venice
A Tyrolia Supports A Piedmont - Venice (*Cut*)
F Western Mediterranean - Tunis

F Aegean Sea - Ionian Sea (*Fails*)
A Albania - Trieste (*Fails*)
A Budapest Supports A Serbia - Rumania
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Fiinland - St Petersburg
F Gulf of Bothnia Supports A Sweden (*Cut*)
F Livonia Supports A Finland - St Petersburg
A Moscow Supports A Finland - St Petersburg
A Serbia - Rumania
A Silesia Supports A Berlin - Munich
A Sweden Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Vienna - Tyrolia (*Fails*)

F Naples Supports A Rome
A Rome Supports F Naples

A Berlin - Munich


F Ionian Sea NMR
A Trieste NMR
F Tuscany NMR

F Baltic Sea - Gulf of Bothnia (*Fails*)
F Barents Sea Supports A Holland - Norway
F Denmark - Sweden
F Helgoland Bight - Denmark
A Holland - Norway
F Kiel - Baltic Sea (*Fails*)
F North Sea Convoys A Holland - Norway
F Skagerrak Supports F Denmark - Sweden
A St Petersburg - Finland (*Disbanded*)

This results in the following:

Retreat orders will be required from:

Russian A Sweden, French A Munich, as per:

4685  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Diplomacy Game Thread on: October 26, 2008, 09:09:31 am
I'm sorry I'm running late. Two factors were at play: an old mate of mine was in town and staying with us over the weekend (from interstate) and I've been out with him most of today, and secondly, my laptop charger transformer thing died, so I have not been able to log on as much as normal. I'm fixing it all up now. My apologies for my delay.
4686  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: American Parliament on: October 23, 2008, 12:30:55 am
I'm enjoying it.
4687  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the following countries on: October 22, 2008, 11:54:05 pm
Australia - highest per capita Olympic medals?

Second, after the Bahamas. Damn you, the Bahamas!

Might be different for 2008 though.

Yeah... I believe NZ pipped us at the post this year.
4688  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: The Mikado vs. Htmldon on: October 22, 2008, 11:17:40 pm
I'm volunteering for Mikado.
4689  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: If Obama wins two terms, what's the probability that Biden runs in 2016? on: October 22, 2008, 11:11:49 pm
Disclaimer -I have not read the rest of this thread:

I think that given his age, Joe Biden will be to Barack Obama what Dick Cheney is to George W. Bush.  He is a man that Obama can trust without having to keep an eye over his shoulder lest his Vice-President begin plotting on undermining his presidency for his own ambitions. 

In terms of probability... what's the number right above zero?
4690  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Agree or Disagree: Day 15: Dogs > Cats on: October 22, 2008, 10:49:04 pm
This is shaping up to be a pretty close result.
4691  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Washington DC rules! (Literally) on: October 22, 2008, 09:02:05 pm
Carmen. by a landslide. Last years Smithsonian was Ireland and Scotland. You have to got it is so much fun. oh a tip, bring a towel. I am going this year as well. I can't even wait.

I went to see Carmen performed in Melbourne earlier this year. They did a great job.
4692  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Agree or Disagree: Day 15: Dogs > Cats on: October 22, 2008, 09:00:43 pm
Vastly greater. Dogs are so loyal and always happy to see you. The ancient egyptians used to worship cats, and the cats have never forgotten.
4693  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Posters from Indiana on: October 22, 2008, 07:53:50 pm
Still not the worst advertising appeal I have seen.  There's a used car dealership near us called "Vegas Motor Sales".  And on their sign, a pair of rolling dice.  Now just put that in your pipe and smoke it...

Growing up, kids in my area always sniggered at a used car dealership nearby owned by Mike Hunt. Not a name you want to say too quickly.
4694  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the following countries on: October 21, 2008, 09:56:45 pm
Australia - hot accents

We do indeed. I've never received more attention from girls than I received when I visited Canada over Christmas to meet my fiancee's family. Waitresses were ignoring the rest of the table and asking me if I'd like another drink... that felt somewhat bizarre.

good point Torie. we should specify what is meant by opinion.

The following is my automatic reaction, by free association to the following:

Australia, Adelaide

Which begs the question... why?
4695  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the following countries on: October 21, 2008, 09:52:28 pm
US - Very Positive
Canada - Very Positive
Mexico - meh, lean positive
Cuba - meh, I'd like to visit someday perhaps to see their beaches.
Venezuela - negative
Colombia - slight negative, but at least they're serious about trying to get rid of drugs. Wouldn't want to go there, though, I don't think.
Argentina - meh.
Brazil - meh, visiting Rio might be fun sometime.
France - negative, but I'd like to visit sometime.
Germany - lean positive
Italy - Very Positive. Very much want to visit. Would love to see the ancient things they've got there, would love to see the Italian countryside, eat italian food cooked by real italians in Italy, want to see Venice. Want to watch italian opera performed in Rome. Mmmm... yeah... very positive.
Russia - negative, but would probably like to check it out sometime.
South Africa - negative, wouldn't want to go there - too much violent crime. They play good rugby, though.
Zimbabwe - negative. Mugabe is a thug who took them from being the breadbasket of Africa to the basketcase of Africa.
Israel - Very positive. A strong democracy which enjoys freedoms not experienced in many countries in that part of the world.
Iraq - I hope they have the opportunity to become a vibrant democracy.
Iran - Very negative
Afghanistan - Another instance where I hope the rebuilding efforts succeed. They used to have universities and were doing quite well for themselves until the Taliban won an election and effectively put women under house arrest... yeah, they've been through a lot, I hope things improve for them.
Pakistan - wouldn't want to go there.
India - lean positive
China - negative. Would like to check out some of their ancient stuff, though.
Japan - positive.
Australia - My home. My favourite place on earth.

I see your countries and raise you:
The UK - Very positive. Would love to go there sometime.
NZ - Positive. Would love to do one of those Lord of the Rings tours there sometime.
4696  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: wyoming or west virginia? on: October 21, 2008, 08:55:43 pm
I think it's one of those Mean vs Standard Deviation things. I think Wyoming probably has a higher mean, but a lower standard deviation, so in a good national result for McCain, WV may have outperformed. In a tight contest, Wyoming probably would outperform WV, and in a tough result for McCain, Wyoming would almost definitely outperform WV.

Don't know if I'm right or not - that's just a thought I have on it that I thought I'd put out there.

EDIT: That means that Wyoming has more Republicans than WV, but Republicans + Swingers to the Republicans is greater in WV than in Wyoming.
4697  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Posters from Indiana on: October 21, 2008, 08:28:58 pm
Is it my imagination or are we seeing a lot more Hoosier participation here in the forum?  For the longest time, the only people I noted from my state were Beef and Pragmatic Liberal.  Seems like a lot more. 

Any with blue avatars?  I know you're out there....

Yeah, I've noticed another Red Indiana avatar recently that seems to come up more frequently than previously or is new to the forum (I foget who though). I always think it's you posting, so I prepare to sit up and take note.
4698  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Agree or Disagree: Day 13: Scientology is a valid religion on: October 21, 2008, 12:35:08 am
When the founder of a religion says "the best way to make a million dollars is to start a religion" you've gotta wonder - did he found his religion because it's a truth that's been revealed to him, or did he found it to make a quick buck... Scientology is nothing but a scam.
4699  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post A Picture of Yourself Thread VIII on: October 21, 2008, 12:31:08 am
Grandson and grandpa. Grandpa died shortly after this photo was taken sometime in the spring or summer of 1955, on Christmas Day 1955. I think  my visage reveals my character quite well - cautious, skeptical, inquisitive, and a bit melancholy and pessimistic. What do you think?  I was shipped off to Iowa to live with my grandparents for a few months, because my mother was having "problems." Gramps took me everywhere, to his medical office, to lectures, to the Outing Club. I was quite well behaved, but then would depose Gramps after about the meaning of it all. His wife was worried that he was spoiling me rotten, and she was right, and well also wrong.

 Grandpa hoped I would be a football player like he had been (he paid his way as a football coach under coincidence would have it, my subsequent alma mater, under Alonzo (?) Stagg, to pay his way through medical school), but alas that was not in the cards. I suspect his thinness here, was a portent of his final exit.

Speaking of Grandma, during that stay, one morning I told her that going to nursery school was discommoding me, and I preferred to spend my valuable time in other pursuits. She said, well Grandpa has his job healing the sick, and I have my job running this household and feeding the men in the house, ie Grandpa and yourself, and your job is to go to nursery school! It was like a light bulb went on, and I picked up my things, and decamped to the other venue without a further word. Grandma love to tell me that tale years afterword, but she need not have. I remember it like it was yesterday. Our brains work in mysterious ways, but at age 4, thanks to her, I learned a  valuable lesson. We each have our jobs, and our job, is job one.

That is truly a beautiful picture.

That Photo is iconic!
4700  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Comedy Goldmine VII: Straight-to-DVD Christmas Special on: October 20, 2008, 06:12:02 pm
Same thread:

OK Mr. encyclopedia of knowledge name me ONE  time a Democratic nominee for president has lost Ohio and won Virginia in a presidential race.. Come on name just ONE.


I think you'll find that that was later than a century ago.

I love how GoldenTroll was sure he could get Al wrong but got brutally owned.

The most hilarious thing is how GoldenBoy could've easily looked up to see if his statement was correct on this very site in about 2 minutes and avoided the extreme humiliation.

Oh, that's "golden"...
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