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General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gay rights push threatens immigration deal
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on: May 23, 2013, 08:45:07 am
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This thread should be renamed "Opposition to gay rights threatens immigration deal."
Why? There is zero chance that a bill that includes Leahy's withdrawn amendment would pass the House. I'm doubtful it could escape being filibustered in the Senate. You have every reason to dislike that, but don't try and pretend that it isn't true. No, that thread title makes perfect sense. The hatred of gays by the GOP could have torpedoed this bill, thus the democrats had to withdraw the amendment.
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Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Genetic Privacy Act (Debating)
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on: May 20, 2013, 11:24:41 pm
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The basic gist of this bill is to protect employees and consumers from discriminatory practices based on their genetic makeup. This bill is not as necessary in Atlasia since we don't have employer provided health insurance but it is good to have it on the books. I do want to ensure genetic predisposition is not used to raise premiums for the national health program either.
I would have to think about adding exceptions. A genetic predisposition to heart disease would still require an unhealthy lifestyle to fully manifest itself early. Mandatory health screenings and of course fitness requirements would be much more palatable.
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General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws
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on: May 14, 2013, 11:55:28 pm
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Does Arizona have an Initiative system in place? That way they could bypass the legislature entirely.
Yes, but a constitutional amendment requires a ton of voters to sign the petition, 15% of those who voted in the last gubernatorial election, or a bit over 250K. I don't see that happening anytime soon. For an issue like Gay Marriage, I think it could happen.
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General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Poll re 2020 Ohio CD Map
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on: May 14, 2013, 11:20:24 pm
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 This is what I drew, and it is based off the map Jimrtex drew in the other thread. The 1st district which is composed of rural and small towns is the key. This allows you to draw compact districts around metro areas. Communities of interest can be manipulated for partisan interests, but keeping metro areas together is just common sense and I don't see how it is controversial. In my map you have a district that takes in the western suburbs of Cleveland, and another district that takes in the eastern suburbs and the southern suburbs (or northern suburbs of Akron, I bet many commute to both cities in those areas). Then you have a Akron and Canton based district. The Youngstown district takes in a couple of Appalachian counties along the Ohio river, which isn't ideal, but close enough to that area that I think it works. And lastly, it ends up in a very nice and tidy district taking in Toledo and other industrial type small cities along lake Erie. I think this is the best possible map for northern Ohio. I would have a rule against double spanning, where two or more districts span a county line. This tends to make the district boundaries at least somewhat parallel to county lines, rather than stringing extended areas together. So I would reject two districts crossing the Summit-Portage line. The Akron district would go a bit further north, and the salmon district a bit more of Portage County. I can't tell sure whether the yellow district extends into Lake County, but I would not permit that either. A possible consideration is that Ohio shale oil area is centered in Carroll County, but since it has little population, oil field service companies are setting up in places like Canton. Yeah, it's probably a good idea to get the purple district out of Portage. The yellow district does go into lake, but only to pick up a fairly black precinct. I think that district could do without it.
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Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season VII: "The OK Corral"
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on: May 13, 2013, 11:57:37 pm
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And don't you think that you should apologize to your parents and confess that you were stealing from them?
They already know. When did you tell them? A few days ago. What day? And they were just cool with you keeping the PB subscription until Monday? What exactly did you say? What did they say? It was Friday evening. They knew I was working on it and they knew I was struggling with it. They said as long as I cancelled it Monday with no more money involved, they were fine. I told them I was struggling with pornography and that I had taken out a few subscriptions, but that I had cancelled most of them and was waiting until I could get some privacy before I cancelled the last one. They agreed to that. They were disappointed, naturally, but they understand that I am a guy and I'm going to struggle with that. They just told me to cancel the Playboy on Monday, and not to take out any more subscriptions. If I need a diversion, they told me to come to them and we'll go out to eat or go shopping or something. They weren't hostile about it, though. Why would you need privacy to cancel the subscriptions after your parents already knew? Why couldn't you just do it immediately afterwards? Why did you wait till today (that is assuming you actually did cancel it)?
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General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Poll re 2020 Ohio CD Map
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on: May 13, 2013, 11:38:49 pm
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 This is what I drew, and it is based off the map Jimrtex drew in the other thread. The 1st district which is composed of rural and small towns is the key. This allows you to draw compact districts around metro areas. Communities of interest can be manipulated for partisan interests, but keeping metro areas together is just common sense and I don't see how it is controversial. In my map you have a district that takes in the western suburbs of Cleveland, and another district that takes in the eastern suburbs and the southern suburbs (or northern suburbs of Akron, I bet many commute to both cities in those areas). Then you have a Akron and Canton based district. The Youngstown district takes in a couple of Appalachian counties along the Ohio river, which isn't ideal, but close enough to that area that I think it works. And lastly, it ends up in a very nice and tidy district taking in Toledo and other industrial type small cities along lake Erie. I think this is the best possible map for northern Ohio.
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General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Poll re 2020 Ohio CD Map
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on: May 13, 2013, 11:14:33 pm
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Not satisfied yet, and going for more eh? Greedy!
Speaking of greedy, have you taken a look at your CD-10?  And where is your map? Again this is an object lesson in just letting the black box do it. Everyone's motives are questioned, no matter how one tries in good faith, and the fact is, it is hard with some discretion, to see alternatives that screw your side. That is why I have yet to see a map by someone claiming to be non partisan, that benefits the other team. Well Muon2 is on his own trip to be fair. The rest of us are susceptible to being hacks. Melding his ideas with common sense, and what will sell in the public square as the end product, seems to me to have potential. That is why I am focusing on erosity - and it's like porn - you know it when you see it. How is your CD-10 not erose?
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