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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: India 2014 on: Today at 05:20:59 pm
Karnataka and to a lesser extent Maharashtra outside Mumbai and Chhattisgarh stand out.

The national elections in India are heavily influenced by what is going on at the state level. Madhya Pradesh, Chattisgarh and Karnataka had popular BJP governments in power at that time. Chattisgarh could also be due to consolidation by the tribal government behind the anti-missionary party, which would be the BJP. Karnataka will be interesting this year. Probably the one state which will swing against the BJP due to an unpopular BJP government in the state.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Young Americans are dumbs on: Today at 12:44:12 pm
Educational attainment has not risen as much as in other countries because higher education is very poorly subsidized for the vast majority of individuals. In any case, more youngs hold a 4 year degree than olds, so it is you olds who are the dumbs. Smiley

By "other countries," do you mean the not as developed, not as rich ones, as opposed to the cohort of the more developed nations, which is what this comparison is about?

No, I mean the countries talked about in the article, the vast majority of whom heavily subsidize their higher education. Germany would be a fair comparison, no? America is fairly unique when it comes to financing higher education.


Bet you a bong filled with the best, that the same results obtain for 18 year olds (our secondary schools suck, relatively speaking). Higher education in the US is in any event heavily subsidized of course, with Pell grants and all of that, and junior colleges essentially close to free. You are getting into fairly elite territory (what maybe 20% of the population), when you are talking about those expensive 4 year colleges).  And do European nations really have a higher percentage of 4 year college graduates than in the US for the young adult cohort?  No, it really isn't about money in my opinion.  At most, that is a peripheral issue.

Well, I thought this was about college education, since the age cohort you were talking about went up to 24. If you are comparing those who are about to graduate high school in America with those at the same stage of their education abroad, then yes, the other OECD countries do have an advantage.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Young Americans are dumbs on: Today at 12:20:06 pm
Educational attainment has not risen as much as in other countries because higher education is very poorly subsidized for the vast majority of individuals. In any case, more youngs hold a 4 year degree than olds, so it is you olds who are the dumbs. Smiley

By "other countries," do you mean the not as developed, not as rich ones, as opposed to the cohort of the more developed nations, which is what this comparison is about?

No, I mean the countries talked about in the article, the vast majority of whom heavily subsidize their higher education. Germany would be a fair comparison, no? America is fairly unique when it comes to financing higher education.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Young Americans are dumbs on: Today at 12:11:51 pm
Educational attainment has not risen as much as in other countries because higher education is very poorly subsidized for the vast majority of individuals. In any case, more youngs hold a 4 year degree than olds, so it is you olds who are the dumbs. Smiley
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Indira Gandhi on: April 22, 2014, 08:53:18 pm
HP, easily.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Opinion of marijuana edibles on: April 20, 2014, 08:24:24 pm
I think the problem is that it's easier to get higher than you planned with edibles. 

Yeah, dosage and lack of FDA oversight. I also worry about combining marijuana with the industrial food complex. Right now, marijuana is a local cottage industry that fuels small businesses. If the industrial food complex starts demanding marijuana concentrate for food products, marijuana will become another uncontrollable (almost) vice industry, like tobacco.

I'm worried that edibles could scuttle legalization. It's easier to overdose. Vapor is already safer than smoking. Sweets appeal to children. Industrial food polls low across all demographics. Many problems.

Edibles legally sold in Colorado (and the Netherlands) are labeled with dosage info and even sold in child protective containers:



Granted, the issue is that I have no idea how 25mg THC would affect me until I take it. But I had no idea when I first started drinking how an 8% beer vs. a 5% beer would affect me, or how many $2 long islands it takes to black out, or how many tequila shots I can handle before I throw up, etc. That's all a part of growing up, really.

Yes, but people are stupid and can't be bothered to read, eat too much and jump of balconies. And apparently for some people, the rational thing to do would be to ban edibles rather than let stupid people die off.
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: April 2014 At-Large Senate Election on: April 20, 2014, 08:19:42 pm
1) Shua
2) Goldwater
3) Lumine
4) Alfred
5) JCL
6) AG
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Opinion of marijuana edibles on: April 19, 2014, 11:07:40 am
Also, a common sense regulation would be to ensure that edible products are easily dividable into single doses. So instead of selling one big brownie with 100 mg of THC, sell brownie bites with 10 mg each. And don't allow candies to come as 100mg each since its impossible to break them. 100mg ingested once, especially taken with some fatty food, will cause a bad experience even for experienced smokers.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Opinion of marijuana edibles on: April 19, 2014, 11:01:33 am
This is ridiculous. Maybe there should be better packaging cautioning people to take it slowly with edibles, and to wait an hour or two before redosing, but we can't idiot proof this world. If you eat 6 cookies and jump of a balcony, I think the world is better of for it.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Teabagging fascists in TN move to nullify federal ban on hemp produciton on: April 18, 2014, 12:14:42 pm
But what about the children!!!!!111!1one

Dude it's your side (I assume you still associate with the Republicans) who are a bigger roadblock to rationalization of drug laws. The Democrats ain't great but the Republicans are worse. I doubt a Republican president would have allowed the recreational sales in Colorado and Washington. I fear there will be a crackdown after 2016 in case a Republican wins (or Hillary for that matter).
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: India 2014 on: April 16, 2014, 10:09:43 pm
The average Indian politician is not above anything in order to win.

True.  But we should look at what that politician did in order to win.  I completely agree with you that the INC is not above this sort of stuff.  In the 1960s the local INC in MP and UP was behind a bunch anti-Muslim riots and Nehru was powerless to stop them.  The scale of these riots were not as bad a Gujarat 2002 but were all very significant.  And of course there is the 1984 anti-Sikh riots.  But just because the INC did these things it is not the same as all INC politicians did these things.  And certainly did not nominate these people for PM.  So while I agree that the INC is far from being guiltless there is a hierarchy of misdeeds. 

For example, it is a common consensus that Jagdish Tytler was the INC leader behind the 1984 riots.  It is true that INC in 2009 nominated Jagdish Tytler for a MP who in turn won.  So the INC leadership is protecting those behind these riots.  But that is not the same as nominating Jagdish Tytler as the INC candidate for PM.  So I do not see INC protecting Jagdish Tytler the same as BJP nominating Modi as PM.  What the BJP is doing is one step further than what the INC did.

The thing about Modi is that he is a good campaigner and can project himself as a strong leader. And he was the CM of a state, whereas Tytler is more or less a nobody.

Let's see what ends up happening. Count me in the "160 club" you mentioned a couple days back. I want a BJP victory more than a Modi victory.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: India 2014 on: April 16, 2014, 09:56:14 am
So this thread is another case of hyperbolic ag basically freaking out that the world is coming to an end. Loads of these lately.

Not at all. He's quite correct in this instance.

No, he hasn't provided any substantial evidence to prove that point. He has basically just reverted to the "this guy did some horrible things 10 years ago like your average Indian politician so he shouldn't be elected" viewpoint.

I was unaware that the average Indian politician instigated mass pogroms.

The average Indian politician is not above anything in order to win.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: India 2014 on: April 15, 2014, 12:01:30 pm
So this thread is another case of hyperbolic ag basically freaking out that the world is coming to an end. Loads of these lately.

Not at all. He's quite correct in this instance.

No, he hasn't provided any substantial evidence to prove that point. He has basically just reverted to the "this guy did some horrible things 10 years ago like your average Indian politician so he shouldn't be elected" viewpoint.
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: India 2014 on: April 14, 2014, 08:37:08 pm
And looking up the definition of whataboutery (not familiar with it since it's not really used in America), I must say I find nothing wrong with it unless one uses it to justify certain actions (communalism in this case). I challenge you to find a post where I did that.

My defense of the BJP here really is to give people an understanding of why urban India will be voting overwhelmingly for the BJP, and why it doesn't have anything to do with killing muslims. Of course the argument is made that the BJP are too horrible a party and being tired of Congress party corruption and ineffectiveness in keeping economic growth going is not enough of a justification to vote for them. From the Indian perspective though, the BJP, as horrible as it is, isn't that dissimilar from the rest of the lot.
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: India 2014 on: April 14, 2014, 08:23:15 pm
The whataboutery in this thread is strong.

Yes, only the BJP has a history of using communal violence for political gain. You seem to be very familiar with Indian politics.

The prosecution rests. A+ Whataboutery.

(Oh, and nice putting words in my mouth. I said nothing about the BJP, Modi, The Nehru-Gandhis, Gujarat, Congress or anything of that nature. Please criticize me for the things I say in future. Good protip that).

My point is that most of the political parties in India are cut from the same cloth when it comes to communalism. You can call it whatever you would like, I don't really care. The truth is that in the west the BJP is seen as this evil party whereas Congress can do no wrong.
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: India 2014 on: April 14, 2014, 08:06:56 pm
The whataboutery in this thread is strong.

Yes, only the BJP has a history of using communal violence for political gain. You seem to be very familiar with Indian politics.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: DEMOCRATS ONLY: Who would you vote for in this Democratic primary? on: April 14, 2014, 07:51:04 pm
I wouldn't vote for Sanders, but I hope he runs because I think the primary could be epic.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: India 2014 on: April 14, 2014, 10:53:56 am
It's an open secret that Sonia runs the country.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2012 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: California Cities Biggest Swings on: April 12, 2014, 08:44:38 pm
Obama's improvement among Vietnamese-Americans might at least partly explain Westminster.

It fully explains Westminster. In fact, it is because of these swings that we have an idea on how Vietnamese-Americans voted.
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: India 2014 on: April 12, 2014, 11:02:52 am
If you would like to become Bangladesh, you are welcome.

And no, Modi is in a league of his own. Riots in murders happen in India, it is true. Having the government in cold blood encourage, killing over 2000 people in mere days is much more rare.

Isn't that what happened in 1984 against the Sikhs?

Rajiv is dead. When Modi is dead I will be willing to let it go.

Umm, his wife currently runs the country and his son is running for PM. And she has personally protected congress party members who organized the riots.

Back then his son was a child and his wife was completely out of politics then and for years thereafter. She most definitely did not order murders. I have no objections to Jashodaben running for office 10 years after the SOB dies.

She has been protecting the ones responsible though.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2012 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: California Cities Biggest Swings on: April 12, 2014, 10:15:37 am
Are those numbers for Vernon correct? There's over 10% "other" in both elections.

Probably. It's not even really a city, just an industrial park.

Meaning what? It has almost no voters so a large family or couple neighbors voting for a thrid party skews the entire result?

I think the only people living there are city employees.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2012 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: California Cities Biggest Swings on: April 12, 2014, 08:40:06 am
It was 2008 that was the anomaly in these rich cities. 2012 was just a return to normalcy.
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: India 2014 on: April 11, 2014, 11:39:45 pm
If you would like to become Bangladesh, you are welcome.

And no, Modi is in a league of his own. Riots in murders happen in India, it is true. Having the government in cold blood encourage, killing over 2000 people in mere days is much more rare.

Isn't that what happened in 1984 against the Sikhs?

Rajiv is dead. When Modi is dead I will be willing to let it go.

Umm, his wife currently runs the country and his son is running for PM. And she has personally protected congress party members who organized the riots.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2012 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: California Cities Biggest Swings on: April 11, 2014, 06:53:43 pm
Are those numbers for Vernon correct? There's over 10% "other" in both elections.

Probably. It's not even really a city, just an industrial park.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Should we reform the Electoral College? on: April 11, 2014, 12:01:08 pm
I'm in full support of the Popular Vote Compact. It's the easiest way to have the equivalent of a national popular vote.

I don't think a vote by congressional district works, as that encourages even more gerrymandering and naturally benefits one party (in this case it's the Republicans, as Democrats are more likely to live in areas where they're overrepresented, or in small liberal enclaves within conservative zones.)

I think that's the biggest issue. Over representation. Democrats in cities have far too much power in major states just by living in tiny zones.


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