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1  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Indian Politics and Political Parties - General Discussion on: July 28, 2015, 01:46:31 am
That is very sad news. He was a good man. Sad
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Jihadist states on: July 27, 2015, 01:35:01 pm
Is a state were literally a Jihadist State, meaning the government supported Jihad, and the country was a base for Jihadist operations elsewhere, that state would have a regime change. So I don't think any such nations exist. Sure Iran does some naughty stuff, and so forth, but when it does, to the extent it does, it tries to hide it.

This focus on Iran right now is just silly. In the fight against ISIS, they are our ally. Extremist Sunni Islam is the real enemy and while the state apparatus of Qatar or Saudi Arabia may not be directly helping them, they are certainly on the side of ISIS in this civil war. Relying on them to wipe out ISIS would be a huge mistake as it is in their interest to keep ISIS (or related forces) alive and fighting Shias, Alawites, Kurds and anyone else who isn't Sunni Arab.

Yet all we hear about now is Iran. This is the same sort of misguided, ignorant idiocy that led to the Iraq war and the US is falling into the same trap again. Saudi Arabia is against the Iran deal. Just that fact alone tells me the deal is worth supporting.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Are pollsters taking joke Trump supporters seriously? on: July 26, 2015, 11:18:28 am
NAFTA was implemented in 1993 and by 2000, we saw the creation of 22 million jobs. I have stated the facts previously. There are around 500,000 unfilled manufacturing jobs in America right now.

Come on, you don't really believe that.


I don't believe that NAFTA was solely responsible for the creation of 22 million jobs, but it did help create some jobs and it didn't have a negative impact on the economy as some would have you believe.

As for manufacturing jobs:

http://cnsnews.com/commentary/stephen-moore/why-it-so-hard-employers-fill-these-jobs

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So what kind of jobs are going unfilled?

* Manufacturing We always hear we are losing good manufacturing jobs in America and those bedrock middle class jobs arent coming back. Gregory Baise, the president of the Illinois Manufacturing Association, tells me that there are some 500,000 jobs we cant fill. Its the biggest problem our industry faces.. The industry needs welders, pipefitters, electricians, engineers. It needs people skilled in robotics and basic engineering.

There is a problem with education in this country, especially vocational training for the skills that are needed today. Of course, it is much easier to blame foreigners than improving oneself and so that's what people do.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Has anyone talked about changing the legal immigration process? on: July 26, 2015, 01:17:35 am
All these candidates talk about trying to solve and cut down on illegal immigration, but I rarely see them talk about stuff that's causing the illegal immigration to happen. Perhaps there can be a discussion on reforming the immigration system all together, instead of just talking about securing the border. What do you all think?

There is one candidate.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/02/04/jeb_bush_we_ought_to_dramatically_expand_immigrants_that_are_coming_to_work.html

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In a speech to the Detroit Economic Club on Wednesday, presidential hopeful Jeb Bush made his case for immigration reform. Bush said this should be an economic issue and not a political one. Bush said securing the border "ought to be the highest priority" and that the president shouldn't use his executive authority to go beyond his constitutional powers.

Bush also said the U.S. could create high sustained economic growth through "dramatically expanding immigrants that are coming to work" with a guest worker program to deal in the areas where there are work shortages.

"So once we got that done, then it seems to me that we ought to say how do we be strategic about this and how do we create high sustained economic growth? And that's to shift away from family reunification being almost the sole driver of legal immigration to narrowing that to what every other country has, spouse and minor children, and dramatically expanding immigrants that are coming to work. A guest worker program to deal in the areas where there are shortages," Bush said on Wednesday.

Bush warned about an impending population crisis in the U.S., saying "if we do nothing of it will end up becoming a significant problem." Bush suggested embracing immigrants to the U.S. will help solve the problem.

"Family formation rates in this country are at an all time low," Bush said. "And birth rates are below breakeven. There are more single women than married women in this country for the first time in our history. Our demography could be huge strength for high sustained economic growth, or if we do nothing of it will end up becoming a significant problem. It may not be as bad as Japan or as Europe as a significant problem."

"I would urge every state to focus on how do we expand civics education as well," Bush said. "We should love our country. We should embrace our heritage and we should encourage immigrants to do so as well. And that will reestablish this unique American experience which is you come, you work hard, you embrace these values and you're as American as anybody who came in the Mayflower. That's the America that will yield great, great results."

I agree we should have an immigration system where folks who can contribute to our economy should be invited to legally immigrate here.

He thinks it would be bad if we ended up like Europe and Japan, with their lower crime rates and higher standards of living. He would rather we import a mass of poor people who will fight for the chance to work for lower wages.

I love how this statement show how clueless you are. You would rather the US be like Europe or Japan? Have you noticed how their economy is doing? You realize that is the case because of an aging demographic structure that doesn't have enough people working and paying into the entitlement programs for the elderly, don't you? Additionally, in Europe most of the immigrants they let in are refugees. That is not something the US should emulate either.
5  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Eugene, OR vs. Tucson, AZ on: July 25, 2015, 04:46:37 pm
Really, does anybody WANT to live in Tuscon?  Seems more like a place you're either born there and "stuck", or you got trapped trying to pass through.  Or your retired and it was cheaper than Phoenix.

I would much, much rather live in Tucson than Phoenix.
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Can the Trump phenomenon change the GOP rethoric about immigration? on: July 25, 2015, 12:57:11 am
sbane has arisen!!! Smiley


Only the Donald could have made this happen! Wink

Haha I should be back more as the elections heat up. Interesting times on this forum too it seems.....
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Can the Trump phenomenon change the GOP rethoric about immigration? on: July 24, 2015, 11:21:33 pm
You really think that constitutes a majority? You think web start ups outnumber Chinese restaurants?

Most businesses in this country are small businesses. So of course there will be more chinese restaurants than google's started by immigrants. Just as is the case for citizens.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Can the Trump phenomenon change the GOP rethoric about immigration? on: July 24, 2015, 10:46:56 pm

At the same time, I agree with the notion that we should limit family unification and instead get folks to come here legally that can work here. Immigrants are twice as likely as native born citizens to start a business and thus, create jobs.


The businesses that immigrants start typically create very few jobs and usually only for other immigrants and very low paying/under the table.

A majority of Silicon Valley startups are started by immigrants. Moron.
9  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Santa Ana, CA on: July 17, 2015, 02:38:54 pm
There is no such thing as blocks of wrecked abandoned housing, unlike in a lot of other low income areas in other locations.

You don't really have that anywhere in California. Maybe in some rural areas that I have never visited.

And I'll back up your comments on Santa Ana. I have been in that city many times and never had any issues or thought it was overly dumpy. Parts of Garden Grove and Anaheim look worse imho.

you wrote on 12/30/12 that "Yeah a movie actor probably wouldn't even live in Orange county let alone the dump known as Santa Ana. There are some high rise condos in south Santa Ana that would be cool to live in but they are filled more with yuppies working in Irvine. "

Kind of creepy you have that saved but yes, compared to say Irvine or Huntington Beach, Santa Ana is a dump. Parts of Garden Grove and Anaheim are just as bad if not worse. That being said, it is much better than dumpy neighborhoods in other parts of the country.
10  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Santa Ana, CA on: July 16, 2015, 09:04:15 pm
There is no such thing as blocks of wrecked abandoned housing, unlike in a lot of other low income areas in other locations.

You don't really have that anywhere in California. Maybe in some rural areas that I have never visited.

And I'll back up your comments on Santa Ana. I have been in that city many times and never had any issues or thought it was overly dumpy. Parts of Garden Grove and Anaheim look worse imho.
11  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Where minorities are a majority: Pew county map on: July 16, 2015, 09:01:26 pm
To be honest, I'm very surprised that San Luis Obispo County is still majority White, while Monterey County is majority Hispanic.

Lots of agriculture in Monterey County and the lack of it in San Luis Obispo County basically explains it.

12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: How did Reagan Democrats vote post Reagan? on: June 11, 2015, 03:20:35 pm
After 84:

Strong Bush
Lean Clinton
Lean Clinton
Lean Bush
Lean Bush
Strong McCain
Strong Romney

I tend to think of a blue-collar, white, poor to middle class worker from Ohio or Pennsylvania when I think of this.

I disagree with them voting Strong McCain or Romney. I would say lean McCain and Romney. Otherwise, there is no way Obama would have won those states.
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: California raises smoking age to 21 on: June 03, 2015, 01:11:53 am
Good. Hopefully this means more 18-20 year olds will illegally do cool and fun drugs like tobacco and marijuana instead, and not this useless, utterly disgusting FILTH that they only do because it's legal. Break the law with fun stuff, not this garbage that does NOTHING positive.

If anything this will make smoking cigarettes cooler because it will be illegal. Absolutely idiotic.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Cory Gardner's Crusade to Ban Condoms Continues on: May 29, 2015, 02:16:42 pm
I'm...confused. Is his plan really bad it are my fellow Democrats being ironic in regards to Gardner because of his past (and probably true) position on personhood and abortion?

[OOC]Both. This really is an intentional attempt by Republican to undercut Obamacare's coverage of contraceptives. If that wasn't their goal, they could have included a line in the bill that insurance companies must cover OOC birth control pills identically to how they would cover prescription contraception. (That would still be a bad bill because women, especially teenage girls, shouldn't be taking birth control pills without discussing all the pros and cons with a doctor first.)

Also, Gardner sucks (for his support of "Personhood," at least until it became politically inconvenient, and for other reasons as well), so his lampooning deserves to be mocked.[/OOC]

If your doctor gives you a prescription for something also available over the counter, and the law already says that the prescription for this medication must be covered without co-pay...?    Maybe this is an attempt to undercut the coverage mandate, but if it is, it is extremely ineffectual.

Under Obamacare, insurance companies can choose not to cover OTC medications (which most insurance companies do anyways). So any birth control available OTC could technically not be covered.

Also, I must add that this is a little dangerous. I don't think 18 year old smokers should be able to stroll down the aisle and pick up oral contraceptives without a doctor or pharmacist telling them to not smoke while taking the birth control.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Cory Gardner's Crusade to Ban Condoms Continues on: May 29, 2015, 02:13:44 pm
People get prescriptions for OTC medicines all the time, with insurance coverage.  What is the issue here?

That can happen sometimes but very rarely.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AZ shuts down welfare benefits after 12 months...... on: May 20, 2015, 12:44:45 pm
Is their goal to make self-deportation a reality?
I know I would self-deport from Arizona at this rate.

That's the general idea, yes.

Joe might be on the new Southern Border.

At least northern AZ should be kept in America. It has many redeeming qualities.
17  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: More chatter about a Dem redraw of CD lines in CA if SCOTUS tanks AZ commission on: May 19, 2015, 11:25:12 pm
  We will probably ended up with indictments of several additional Democratic legislators. 

Uhh...what?
18  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: More chatter about a Dem redraw of CD lines in CA if SCOTUS tanks AZ commission on: May 19, 2015, 08:21:05 am
California's legislature had less input than Arizona's when creating the congressional districts so I highly doubt the Supreme Court could strike down Arizona's districts and not California's. Then again, this court has proven it is capable of anything so.....

Valadao and Denham can easily be removed. Get rid of Kings County from Valadao and give him more of Fresno and Denham gets to represent Salinas. Both would be finished in that scenario. Steve Knight could be easily gotten rid of in SoCal but the other districts would be a bit tougher. At least 3 districts could be gained for the Democrats without breaking a sweat while shoring up the rest of the Democrats.

Not that I am feeling particularly favorable towards Democrats these days (I recently found out how much money I get to keep after taxes) but this is the sort of sh**t that really pisses me off about Republicans. You have gerrymandered the country to such an extent that you can win elections while losing the popular vote. Any self respecting human would take that and get on with it, but not Republicans. The greedy bastards want more, more and some more. It is just low class behavior, and not surprisingly it is the Arizona Republican party leading the charge. This sort of sh**t pisses me off even more than the alternate minimum tax. Smiley
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CA-Sen: California Quake on: May 14, 2015, 04:34:06 pm
I suspect it will be Sanchez vs Harris.  Sanchez will try to appeal to moderates in the general election, as well as Hispanics.  I could see her winning if she campaigns well.

If she tries to play the Latino card too much, she will lose. She needs to do it covertly, and make sure it is not being printed in the LA times. In the top two primary, Latinos won't make up more than maybe 20% of the vote.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: California 100 years from now on: May 02, 2015, 09:37:22 pm
There are far fewer "rich" liberals in the US than this forum likes to believe, and there are without a doubt more rich conservatives.  This idea that the Democratic Party is 50% minorities and 50% rich PhD cosmopolitans who play hero and look out for said minorities' interests is ... well, it's funny.

CA is a state run for and by the wealthy liberal elites.

Yet its most affluent county (Orange) is a GOP stronghold.  There's not a blue state in the Union that Democrats have these mythical "liberal elites" to thank for their margins of victory.

Have you heard of the bay area? The poorest county in the bay area has the same median income as Orange County.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: April 2015 At-large Senate Election on: April 19, 2015, 05:48:55 pm
1) Yankee
2) polnut
3) Cris
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: CA: Gov. Brown orders mandatory water restrictions (25% reduction statewide) on: April 12, 2015, 01:29:24 am
So...none of the 40-60 inches of precip across the Sierra Nevadas ever runs down into the valley.? We're not in Kansas anymore.  Significant amounts of water flow into the land rather than falling from the sky.  To insist they farm as if the 5" that falls is all they get is probably why you always sucked at SimCity.

They need new reservoirs and they need to expand others to hold more during wet years.  Im surprised the who,e valley isn't covered in greenhouses with hydroponics like Spain.  But then...Spains produce is terrible and flavorless.



I support having new reservoirs but not growing crops that require intensive irrigation year round. Of course, watering lawns doesn't make much sense either....
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: CA: Gov. Brown orders mandatory water restrictions (25% reduction statewide) on: April 10, 2015, 11:58:28 pm
50% of Los Angeles' water usage goes to landscaping. Just imagine how much water could be saved if the landscape looked like Las Vegas or Phoenix.

Another thing: Drive through the central valley and you'll see miles and miles of orchards. We're going to have to eventually eliminate stuff like growing almond tree orchards if we want to be serious about water usage.

Banning fracking will also help. 70 million gallons of water were used for fracking in the state last year. Brown's reasoning is that the gas will have to be imported from out of state via fossil fuel intensive methods if we didn't drill for it here, but the bottom line is we might have to do that if water is such a scarcity.

It can be done. But even California is too resistant to huge and rapid lifestyle changes like that. We'll see.

Currently, Los Angeles is offering incentives for homeowners to change grass-covered lawns to more desert-friendly landscaping. That said, there's only so much can be done targeting residential buildings. The vast majority of water use in California is used by agricultural interests, and they're really the ones who will bear the brunt of the squeeze.

Too many farms, not enough water for them.

Even farming itself isn't a problem, but rather the crops that are grown. You can't continue watering Almond, Cashew and Pistachio trees year round in a desert that receives 5 inches of rain and the average high is around 100 degrees for 3 months of the year.
Major exaggerations here, Sbane.  Annual rainfall in the central valley varies from a low of 8" in Bakersfield to 18" in Sacramento to 33" in Redding.  That alone would be enough for dry land farming.  But the central valley prior to development often flooded and was full of vast marshes and oak groves.  So they get far more water by being surrounded by mountains.

CA needs bigger reservoirs.  Or we can dismantle the state and buy almonds from abroad.

Everywhere in the world has benefitted by adapting the environment to retain water.  Because thats what life does.  It retains water.

The west side of the valley does have areas that receive about 5 inches of rain a year.
24  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: 2012 White Obama Lovers Map by County Project - TN added on: April 10, 2015, 10:51:39 am
Are Obama's "white lovers" male or female? Inquiring minds want to know.

Gays and females. Tongue

Adam, nice job on Tennessee, considering the constraints you mentioned. I have calculated the white vote % for Davidson County before and I got the same number as you. Based on my interactions with people it would seem like a decent majority of whites are voting Democrat here but I usually hang around places like Downtown, East Nashville, Germantown and the West End area where whites are voting for the Democrats. That drops precipitously once you get outside the 440/Briley Parkway loop.
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: CA: Gov. Brown orders mandatory water restrictions (25% reduction statewide) on: April 09, 2015, 06:52:07 pm
50% of Los Angeles' water usage goes to landscaping. Just imagine how much water could be saved if the landscape looked like Las Vegas or Phoenix.

Another thing: Drive through the central valley and you'll see miles and miles of orchards. We're going to have to eventually eliminate stuff like growing almond tree orchards if we want to be serious about water usage.

Banning fracking will also help. 70 million gallons of water were used for fracking in the state last year. Brown's reasoning is that the gas will have to be imported from out of state via fossil fuel intensive methods if we didn't drill for it here, but the bottom line is we might have to do that if water is such a scarcity.

It can be done. But even California is too resistant to huge and rapid lifestyle changes like that. We'll see.

Currently, Los Angeles is offering incentives for homeowners to change grass-covered lawns to more desert-friendly landscaping. That said, there's only so much can be done targeting residential buildings. The vast majority of water use in California is used by agricultural interests, and they're really the ones who will bear the brunt of the squeeze.

Too many farms, not enough water for them.

Even farming itself isn't a problem, but rather the crops that are grown. You can't continue watering Almond, Cashew and Pistachio trees year round in a desert that receives 5 inches of rain and the average high is around 100 degrees for 3 months of the year.
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