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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Republic of Texas what if? on: Today at 09:15:15 am
Now I'm not saying Texas would be better off being independent, but it would do fine.  Better than any Central American country, most South American countries and certainly light years better than Belarus.  You'd have to be pretty blinded by your biases to make such a claim me thinks.

The instability would ruin anything that is good about Texas. If the business community flees, what else is left?
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which of the 10 largest US cities would you rather live in? on: Today at 08:25:22 am
1) San Diego
2) San Jose
3) Los Angeles
4) NYC
5) Philly
6) Phoenix
7) Chicago
8 ) Dallas
9) Houston
10) San Antonio
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which of the 10 largest US cities would you rather live in? on: Today at 08:20:36 am
The people who talk sh**t on Los Angeles and then go ahead and rank it ahead of San Diego are absolutely hilarious. It's quite easy to see who hasn't been to San Diego.

Also, can someone explain the appeal of Chicago. It's cold as hell, has some big buildings inside the loop but is mostly a sprawling metropolis much worse than Los Angeles or San Diego (actually most eastern cities are but the east coast people don't like to acknowledge it) and it's famous foods consist of diabetes and heart disease. So what am I missing here? What is there to like?
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CA-17: San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed endorses Ro Khanna for Congress on: Today at 07:30:59 am
There actually aren't that many Asians and there are basically zero blacks or Hispanics.

What's your source for this? I'm at a major tech company right now and there are more than two dozen people on my side of the floor. I'm literally the only one who was born in the United States.

Are you working at a start-up in the Bay Area? I'm not talking about HP/Oracle/Microsoft/etc.

Why focus on just startups? Most tech jobs are not in startups.

 In any case, you are wrong about them as well. My sister currently works for a startup, and her previous job was at a startup as well. I have other non-white friends who work at startups as well. There are not many new immigrants at startups though, but that is because of how the immigration system works. Ever notice how techies are very pro-immigration reform?
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CA-17: San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed endorses Ro Khanna for Congress on: Today at 07:26:27 am
None of this is particularly meaningful, in any case. Honda won by a large margin in the primary and he will win by a large margin in the general election. This election isn't directly analogous to the election in Hawaii, but the comparison is useful to make, because like Hawaii this district is majority-Asian and consequently strongly pro-incumbent. For Khanna to win, voters need a good reason to vote Honda out, and they have nothing of the sort.

One of Khanna's strategies here has been to court the Indian vote, which is substantial but significantly smaller than the Chinese vote. In a matter reminiscent of politics in the home country, his campaign mailers trumpet his grandfather's participation in the Quit India movement. There's no actual way of reliably measuring the Indian vote since Indians do not live in their own separate areas, but if I may draw from anecdotal evidence Khanna has largely failed in this regard. Indians are just as pro-incumbent as their Chinese neighbors.

Well, Khanna is certainly trying to play the race card for all its worth. "Don't let Ro Khanna outsource our jobs" is supposedly racist.

That is actually racist.

Umm, what? Was it racist to call Carly Fiornia an outsourcer, too?

It depends on the context on which you call him an outsourcer. Has he personally outsourced any jobs of are you calling him that because he is an Indian guy who is friends with tech CEO's? In any case, he makes the case for how to make America more competitive and how to keep jobs here without resorting to protectionism, so those those comments would be stupid at best.
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CA-17: San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed endorses Ro Khanna for Congress on: August 19, 2014, 02:02:21 pm
I don't understand the hate of the tech sector, I really don't. Can someone please explain it to me or is it basically money=bad?

A lot of it is the fact that they have this insufferable veneer of progressive do-good-ery even as they perpetuate a corporate culture that is incredibly unfriendly to women and anyone who isn't the "right kind" of white person.

At least Wall Street more or less admits they're exclusionary assholes (though they'll tell you they're exclusionary assholes who we can't possibly do without). And your stereotypical "evil robber baron" like Charles Koch does provide employment opportunities for the working class in his chemical plants and paper mills. In that sense, he's certainly giving more opportunity to average people than Instagram or any other "something something apps something" start-up.

So what's up with this stereotype that all tech workers are white? There are also a crap ton of Asians who work in these companies and a lot of startups are started by Asians. Considering the demographics of this district, having a representative focused on tech issues, and solving national issues using increased use of technology is fairly representative of the district.

And someone has to explain to me why it is supposedly the corporate culture that keeps women away from these jobs, as opposed to the fact that most software engineers in college are men. That is certainly an issue that needs to be addressed but it can't be addressed at the corporate level. It needs to happen much earlier than that. And if you guys took just 5 minutes to actually visit Khanna's website, you would see he addresses this problem multiple times.

There actually aren't that many Asians and there are basically zero blacks or Hispanics.

There have been plenty of first-person accounts of women in tech firms who felt alienated and unwelcome by the "frat house" culture that tended to prevail.

Start-ups are fundamentally elitist and exclusionary in the same way that journalism and high-end PR are exclusionary - you can't play the game if you can't afford it. It's customary in that industry to pay employees equity in lieu of wages. That's fine if you have cash flow from family money, but most people do need an actual paycheck every couple of weeks.

There's also the 24/7 mentality. It's a very collegiate atmosphere of late nights and overlap between work and socializing. It only works for someone who was a traditional college student and has remained in that "mode" by not marrying and certainly not having children.

You're a 25 year old man who married after college and has a two year old? Sorry. You're not welcome. You're a single mom who went back to school part time, graduated at 30 and has two kids in elementary school? Thanks but you're just not a good fit for us.

No, there are actually many Asians who work for tech companies as well as startups. I'm not really sure where you are getting this idea it's a sea of white people. It might be true that there are less Asians in startups, but easily 25-30% of startup workers are Asian. That number probably gets close to a majority at established tech companies. As for Hispanics and Blacks, the same problem as with women apply. Not enough go into the majors you need to get into the tech field.

I agree with a lot of the other points you make, especially regarding lifestyle choices. I just don't see why that is a bad thing. Working at a startup is a lifestyle choice and if it doesn't fit a lot of people, it doesn't mean those who work at start ups are exclusionary. If you want a 9-5 and raise 2 kids, then it's not the right fit for you.

7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CA-17: San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed endorses Ro Khanna for Congress on: August 19, 2014, 08:35:51 am
What policies make Ro Khanna a Democrat then?

I don't think he looks at issues ideologically, rather he looks at them practically. That's the problem with congress right now. Everyone is in their ideological corners as opposed to trying to do things which are necessary, may they be liberal or conservative.

Muh pragmatism.

Yeah, taking reality into account when making laws is so dumb! You would make a great teabagger.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CA-17: San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed endorses Ro Khanna for Congress on: August 19, 2014, 08:31:09 am
What policies make Ro Khanna a Democrat then?

I don't think he looks at issues ideologically, rather he looks at them practically. That's the problem with congress right now. Everyone is in their ideological corners as opposed to trying to do things which are necessary, may they be liberal or conservative.


That doesn't actually mean anything.

Ugh, spare me the attitude and actually go see his website. You will see he has many ideas (he is a policy wonk) and they can't always be packaged neatly into any one category or ideology.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CA-17: San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed endorses Ro Khanna for Congress on: August 19, 2014, 08:27:46 am
I don't understand the hate of the tech sector, I really don't. Can someone please explain it to me or is it basically money=bad?

A lot of it is the fact that they have this insufferable veneer of progressive do-good-ery even as they perpetuate a corporate culture that is incredibly unfriendly to women and anyone who isn't the "right kind" of white person.

At least Wall Street more or less admits they're exclusionary assholes (though they'll tell you they're exclusionary assholes who we can't possibly do without). And your stereotypical "evil robber baron" like Charles Koch does provide employment opportunities for the working class in his chemical plants and paper mills. In that sense, he's certainly giving more opportunity to average people than Instagram or any other "something something apps something" start-up.

So what's up with this stereotype that all tech workers are white? There are also a crap ton of Asians who work in these companies and a lot of startups are started by Asians. Considering the demographics of this district, having a representative focused on tech issues, and solving national issues using increased use of technology is fairly representative of the district.

And someone has to explain to me why it is supposedly the corporate culture that keeps women away from these jobs, as opposed to the fact that most software engineers in college are men. That is certainly an issue that needs to be addressed but it can't be addressed at the corporate level. It needs to happen much earlier than that. And if you guys took just 5 minutes to actually visit Khanna's website, you would see he addresses this problem multiple times.
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CA-17: San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed endorses Ro Khanna for Congress on: August 19, 2014, 08:20:24 am
None of this is particularly meaningful, in any case. Honda won by a large margin in the primary and he will win by a large margin in the general election. This election isn't directly analogous to the election in Hawaii, but the comparison is useful to make, because like Hawaii this district is majority-Asian and consequently strongly pro-incumbent. For Khanna to win, voters need a good reason to vote Honda out, and they have nothing of the sort.

One of Khanna's strategies here has been to court the Indian vote, which is substantial but significantly smaller than the Chinese vote. In a matter reminiscent of politics in the home country, his campaign mailers trumpet his grandfather's participation in the Quit India movement. There's no actual way of reliably measuring the Indian vote since Indians do not live in their own separate areas, but if I may draw from anecdotal evidence Khanna has largely failed in this regard. Indians are just as pro-incumbent as their Chinese neighbors.

Well, Khanna is certainly trying to play the race card for all its worth. "Don't let Ro Khanna outsource our jobs" is supposedly racist.

That is actually racist.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: St Louis police murder scandal (PLUS: riots, idiotic press conferences, etc.) on: August 19, 2014, 08:17:26 am
It's quite obvious there was a robbery at the store, otherwise why would he be shoving the owner like that? Just for fun? That is even worse. And it's not as if he was underage and couldn't buy those legally. Maybe he didn't have his ID on him and still wanted the cigars, in which case that is even more idiotic.

No one can justify what the police are doing currently and have been doing for a whole week (seriously dead0man wtf) but there is no reason to justify what mike brown did in that store.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Family values Republican state rep. arrested for raping his wife on: August 19, 2014, 07:57:09 am
I really hate to say this, but is there any evidence that the late wife would not have wanted sex with her husband?  I know young people tend to think us olds have no interest in woohooing or worse, that it is disgusting if we woohoo, but that is a form of ageism.  Certainly, nursing homes would rather not have to deal with people in their care engaging in woohoo, as it creates difficulty for them, so certainly are biased against the practice.  However, if we are going to be so hyper protective as a society as to make it the default that old people can reach the point that they won't be allowed to woohoo with those they were woohooing with, then we should be able to have documents similar to a living will detailing who we want to be able to woohoo with once we are legally unable to give consent.

I don't know US law, but in Canada, the courts repeated many times than "advance consent" or something similar has no stading in law and is completely opposed and incompatible with the idea of continuous consent. The person may remove its consent at any point during the activity. Your idea is pretty much like allowing spousal rape on senile people. We could easily run in issues in case where the person isn't recognising people anymore (it would be like being raped by a stranger for the victim).

I can understand the reasoning, and in general support it, but the right to engage in sex when one wants to engage in it seems so fundamental that until a person reaches the state where it would be impossible for them to derive any enjoyment from it or to express a desire to stop, there ought to be some mechanism for those who have lost the legal capacity to consent to pre-consent.

This is one of the most disturbing things I have ever read on this forum, with it having been made more disturbing by who typed it.

Seriously, is there no reason why he couldn't have taken care of himself or gotten a prostitute to help him? Try to help me understand.

Are religious people so screwed up in the head that they'd rather rape an Alzheimer's patient than (God forbid!) touch themselves or pay someone to do it with them?

Is a contract consenting to sex beyond the point where they could normally consent really the solution? You couldn't just take care of it yourself or pay a prostitute? How far does this logic extend? If your wife is sleeping and you're really desperate to do it, do you just stick it in without asking? What if you're estranged from your wife but still married? What if she says no? Hey, if the right to engage in sex when one wants to is so fundamental that it could trump consent, then is rape morally ok? What the f is wrong with people.

Well, for him to have hired a prostitute would have been illegal...

Another reason to legalize it.
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: St Louis police murder scandal (PLUS: riots, idiotic press conferences, etc.) on: August 18, 2014, 10:56:34 pm
Oh no, JJ is back.
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CA-17: San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed endorses Ro Khanna for Congress on: August 18, 2014, 10:41:41 pm
I don't understand the hate of the tech sector, I really don't. Can someone please explain it to me or is it basically money=bad?

No but greedy bastards = bad

This is Silicon Valley we are talking about, not Wall Street.
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CA-17: San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed endorses Ro Khanna for Congress on: August 18, 2014, 09:36:08 pm
I don't understand the hate of the tech sector, I really don't. Can someone please explain it to me or is it basically money=bad?
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CA-17: San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed endorses Ro Khanna for Congress on: August 18, 2014, 09:26:02 pm
What policies make Ro Khanna a Democrat then?

I don't think he looks at issues ideologically, rather he looks at them practically. That's the problem with congress right now. Everyone is in their ideological corners as opposed to trying to do things which are necessary, may they be liberal or conservative.


17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CA-17: San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed endorses Ro Khanna for Congress on: August 18, 2014, 08:35:13 pm
I don't like Reed's position on medical marijuana but he has done what is necessary regarding public employee unions. I think both he and Khanna represent the interests of the South Bay better than Honda, even though he is a nice guy.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: St Louis police murder scandal (PLUS: riots, idiotic press conferences, etc.) on: August 18, 2014, 06:32:37 pm
I am on the fence right now (because I don't know what happened obviously), but if they try to push the theory that marijuana made him violent, I am going to reflexively support Mike Brown and listen to NWA for like half an hour.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: St Louis police murder scandal (PLUS: riots, idiotic press conferences, etc.) on: August 18, 2014, 08:27:43 am
Hey, where's the president though?

I'm glad he's laying low. This is much too complicated of a case for him to come out and say anything besides generic calls for peace. Let him enjoy his vacation.
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What's worse, government or corporate bureaucracy? on: August 18, 2014, 07:48:46 am
Government is worse because I can't really go "F[inks] you I'm taking my business elsewhere" like I've done with corporations.
I can at least vote out the bums in the government who are ultimately responsible for managing agencies such as the FDA, VA etc.
I don't see how. Elected officeholders don't manage government agencies. They're managed by appointed bureaucrats (hence the term "bureaucracy") who really have no accountability to the public. If an FDA bureaucrat rejects a drug and kills a few people, only those effected are likely to find out about it, and those who are effected have no real way of even finding out the guy who made the decision to reject the drug that could've saved their loved one, much less voting him out of office.

If the market didn't have any monopolies I would agree with you that government bureaucracy is worse but unfortunately there are monopolies in America due to our corporate controlled political system.
True, but every government bureaucracy is a monopoly, whereas only some corporate bureaucracies are.

See, I disagree that you cannot do anything about government bureaucracies. I disagree with you that the FDA does anything wrong regarding approving drugs, but let's take the VA for example. It has become a political issue and it will be solved, or it will continue to be an issue and politicians will lose their job. When will comcast start giving a sh**t about their customers?
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: St Louis police murder scandal (PLUS: riots, idiotic press conferences, etc.) on: August 18, 2014, 07:44:01 am
"and the dude started running, coming towards the cops"

I'm pretty sure the bystander would have mentioned if he was trying to surrender...plus, that's not how one surrenders.  It seems you guys WANT the cop to have murdered this guy more than you want the truth.

So you believe that dude and think everyone who said he had his hands up is lying? Maybe he was heading back towards the cop, gets shot in the arm, raises his hands to surrender and then gets a headshot as Darren Wilson keeps shooting. No matter what happened, I think we can safely say that Mike Brown deserves this years Darwin Award. Assaulting the police, then running away and then heading right back is some retarded behavior.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: St Louis police murder scandal (PLUS: riots, idiotic press conferences, etc.) on: August 18, 2014, 07:03:27 am
Don't forget that the robbery video was released due to a FOI request. The police department likely wouldn't want to release it otherwise, since it's too weak to be evidence but strong enough to raise tensions.
They didn't want to release it because there is/was still an investigation going on, that is normal protocol.
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Yes, with the video you may think it's more likely that Brown might have tried to run away from the cop. But your belief may be insufficient, and your confidence in your interpretation of events unjustified. Maybe think harder about this issue before blaming "the media" like a conspiratorial nut.
He wasn't running away from the cops, he was running back TO the cops.  link
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Man1:"that's the one that ran behind this one right here, cuz he ran up there where we was at - where we live at! Y'all, when I came back outside all I seen was that truck right there and dude was - I don't know what happened...." [he is referring to the police "truck"]

Man2: "whose hat is that right there?" [referring to Brown's hat in the street]

Man1: "that's his hat...I don't know what happened..."

Man2: "How'd get get from there to here?" [from the cop vehicle to down the street, or from where the hat was laying]

Man1: "Cuz he ran. The police was still in the truck"

Man2: "They came this way?"

Man1: "No...he was right there, the police was still in the truck...he was like...I don't know what was in his head..."[crosstalk]

Man2: "why his body come this way, though?" [why is Brown's body facing the cop vehicle]

Man1: "..in the truck....yeah, him and the police...[puttin] him in the police truck...he was like over the truck right now...but then he ran...police got out and ran after him...and then the next thing I know, he coming back towards the police...police had his gun drawn up already.."

Man2: "oh, the police got the brother [crosstalk]??"

Man1: "the police shot him...the police kept [dumping?] on him...I'm thinking that the police missing, like he like...police were like at this far corner[?]....[crosstalk]...police fire shots...next thing I know I think he's missing..."

Man2: "The police shoot him?"

Man1: "The police shot him...next thing I know, I think he's missing...and the the dude started running, coming TOWARDS the police!"
What I'm guessing happened is this:
1.Mr Brown and his buddy steal some little cigars, store owner confronts them, he physically hassles/threatens the store owner
2.Mr. Brown and buddy leave store
3.several cops are called to the area
4.one of the cop cars (an SUV) sees Brown and buddy walking down the street and asks them to get out of the street
5.Brown assumes that these cops are here to bust him so tries to not get caught, he does that by trying to make sure the cops can't get out of the car
6.when he realizes that ain't going to work he tries to run
7.when he realizes THAT's not going to work he tries to go after the cops again
8.the cops shoot him as he's running towards them
9.everybody freaks out

Yes, these are not the actions of a rational man, which makes me think he was probably high on goofballs.

All just a guess, but it's much more likely than the version of what most people seem to assume what happened.  I'm not saying the cops made no mistakes, then or afterwords.  I'm saying it's ridiculous to freak out, assume the worst before the evidence is in or the investigation is complete.

He may have decided to come back towards the police to negotiate with them or whatever. Did he have his hands up is the question.
23  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Pakistan: A Fourth Coup? on: August 17, 2014, 09:18:45 pm
What was that absurd Raj term? Warrior Races? Too many of those in Pakistan (as in: too much pride in the army).

Martial race. I guess the Pashtuns and the Punjabis were considered as such. I think they constitute a majority of the population. Still, the Indian military is also highly represented by such "races" such as Punjabis and the Gorkhas.
24  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Pakistan: A Fourth Coup? on: August 17, 2014, 09:11:51 pm
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Lack of ambition may have played a part but it also really wouldn't make sense to have a pro-Musharraf coup because of the bin Laden raid. We're talking about a coup by more or less secular, pro-Western forces in the army.

Right, I knew what you meant. Generally, whenever the army stages a coup, its able to do so by presenting itself as a competent alternative to the democratically-elected government for dealing with whatever national crisis. With the bin Laden raid, the army was utterly embarrassed and looked ridiculous. The fact bin Laden had (seemingly) lived undetected for years right across from Pakistan's equivalent West Point was embarrassing, and so was the idea that American troops had entered Pakistani airspace undetected. So the army couldn't really present itself as a competent alternative, and so there wasn't really popular support for a coup (like there have been in previous cases).

This article is related to this topic, and I found it fairly interesting. If you're unable to open it due to paywall, let me know, and I can forward the text to you.

So why do you think Pakistan's military is more willing to grab political power than the Indian military. It's not as if India has always been ruled by competent leaders and obviously there is a high level of corruption. Yet the Indian military has never even given the inclination that they would want power, much less actually trying to enact a coup. Maybe it is because Jinnah died too early and there was no tradition of democratic governance established in Pakistan like it was in India by Nehru. What are your thoughts?
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: St Louis police murder scandal (PLUS: riots, idiotic press conferences, etc.) on: August 17, 2014, 04:29:29 pm
I don't understand why the media keeps portraying him as some innocent teenager who "avoided most of the traps that dragged down many of his peers". Obviously he did not as he liked to rob corner stores.

Because whenever a lightning-rod like event such as this shooting happens, some fraction of the country sees the need to canonize the guy and another fraction wants to paint him as Charles Manson. Both because they need to fit him into the narrative they want to story to fit into.

So what's the narrative we should be running with here? "Man steals cigarillos, should be shot dead in street"?

The worst part of this fiasco is the police response to the protests. Nothing can justify that and the police does need to be de-militarized. That being said, him committing this robbery just 15 minutes prior to his death does change the circumstances there. If he thought he was being arrested, is it possible he acted rashly and did something stupid like reach for the officers gun? We still don't know a lot about what actually happened. If he was shot multiple times in the back, it doesn't really matter what  happened at the corner store. He deserved to be in jail, not dead.
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