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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2012 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Arkansas Democratic Presidential Primary on: Today at 10:00:05 pm
That's surprising. I would have thought at least one of either the 1st or the 4th would have blacks as a large enough proportion of the Democratic primary electorate to give Obama a clear victory.

On the face of it, those both results may seem strange.
However, if you figure out that the African American strongholds lie only in the Southern halves of either congressional district and that the Southern Arkansas counties are only sparsely peopled, the results become more plausible. Furthermore, there are only six counties which are majority black.


When you consider that someplace like Dallas Co has a black pop >40%, it just shows how many of the whites, who voted not just for McCain and Romney but also for Bush by what looks like 3-1 in 2004, are still voting in the Democratic primaries.  The combed strength of Democrats both black and white draw even more people to the D primaries because that's where the action is. In the Northwest, the Republicans are stronger so I suppose those voting in the D primary are more likely to identify with the national party.

Thanks for the maps.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Koch Brothers Attack Imminient National Threat to Taxpayers---The Columbus Zoo? on: Today at 09:21:53 pm
The Koch Brothers, inflexible libertarians at heart, cannot stand taxpayer money being spent on anything that does not financially benefit them directly.

What have they advocated for taxpayer money being spent on that financially benefits them directly?
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Dukeís Letís Put Atlasia to Work Program (Debating) on: Today at 08:58:02 pm
What is the rationale for a federal loan program?   If a bank isn't willing to loan someone money for a business, how does it make sense for the government to step in?   
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Duke-Scott Educating The People Reform (Debating) on: Today at 08:54:18 pm
Our reasoning was that the federal government wouldn't deny these schools grants to comply with section one arbitrarily. We don't know how much it will cost to bring these needy schools up to speed, and placing a $ amount on it is pretty short sighted. Even if we appropriate $3B for grants, the schools will still need to get approval, so this amendment doesn't change that.

If we are not putting a number on it, how are we going to budget for it?
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Duke-Scott Educating The People Reform (Debating) on: Today at 08:53:11 pm
AYE
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Long-term Unemployment Relief Act (Amendment at Vote) on: Today at 08:48:51 pm
I don't like those current rates, to be honest; a $7.00 minimum wage in 2015 seems, well, low to me....

I'm going to unilaterally vote against this amendment, and along with my VP Cinci, we will offer our own rates and pray to Zeus that you all accept them.

I'm willing to work with you on this, but recognize that this is still an increase in the minimum wage for tipped employees by more than a dollar per year for the rest of the decade, not including inflation adjustments.
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Bill of Rights Amendment (At Final Vote) on: Today at 08:28:27 pm
A final vote is now open once again on this Constitutional Amendment, Senators please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

just to be clear, this is a resumption of the vote, not the vote starting over?

Its a new vote as I don't think there are provisions to restart a stopped vote where it left off. That is because typiclaly the text needs to be changed and it wouldn't make sense to carry votes over from a vote on a text that no longer exists.

Ok, thanks.

AYE
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Executive Compensation Act of 2014 (Debating) on: Today at 12:08:34 pm
What's wrong with stock-based compensation?

Executives, or whoever receives the compensation, are incentivized to manage stock price to maximize their returns. By definition, this means that they need to manage expectations and then attempt to exceed them, rather than actually perform well.

If they are maximizing returns, how is that not performing well?
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Bacon King Institute of Comedy on: Today at 12:03:04 pm
What the hell was that?

10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: ATTENTION REGIONAL EXECUTIVES: Executive Department Amendment on: Today at 11:55:13 am
This has been a pretty quiet vote.

Just so all are aware, this is being interpreted to mean that the Senate can choose to get rid of any department mentioned in the Constitution without actually changing the Constitution.  So the Constitution will say that a department exists, but it actually doesn't.  I don't believe that is good for our democracy.
11  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should pedal pubs be banned? on: Today at 11:49:46 am
If I understand from your description the people on board are drinking, and they need to be alert enough to be able to stop pedaling so they don't crash into something?  If that's what this is, then yeah, probably so.   
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2012 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Arkansas Democratic Presidential Primary on: Today at 11:39:25 am
Doesn't look like Wolfe won a district. I don't know the relative votes of the counties, but the fact the counties appear to be fairly evenly mixed throughout the state, combined with Obama's reasonably high percentage margin statewide, makes it unlikely. I think AR-04 was probably closest.

Oooooh, he did...
I've found a site that provides the data for congressional districts:



1st CD:  50.68% for Wolfe
2nd CD: 77.09% for Obama
3rd CD:  78.50% for Obama
4th CD:  50.58% for Obama

It seems like AR-01 was the only congressional district nation-wide that Obama lost against a real person.

That's surprising. I would have thought at least one of either the 1st or the 4th would have blacks as a large enough proportion of the Democratic primary electorate to give Obama a clear victory.
13  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Can we ban Oldiesfreak now? on: Today at 12:15:54 am
No.
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Duke-Scott Educating The People Reform (Debating) on: Today at 12:02:18 am
Section III I just changed because the wording made it sound like $50,000 would be split between all the schools in the nation rather than to every school .

Section V is redundant because Section I already mentions recess.

If $3 billion is not enough for grants than let's figure out how much is.  I almost put that in as TBD, but I figured putting in a dollar amount that we could change later would make more sense.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Hate-Crime-Palooza: Fundamentalist Jews Beat Gay Black Man in NYC on: April 23, 2014, 11:42:57 pm
time to ban payot.
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Duke-Scott Educating The People Reform (Debating) on: April 23, 2014, 09:43:34 pm
What is the point of the amendment offered? Schools must offer those things and if they cannot afford it, they can apply for grants so they can afford it. Why do we need to change the wording? So we will set a limit? Do we even know how much money these needy schools will need?

It's not enough to say you must do something and you can apply for grants. What if the grants are denied for some reason, or they aren't given enough, or the grant office takes its sweet time?  In that case the schools are required by law to do something they don't have the money for.

Besides that, there are those of us who believe education ought to be pretty much a regional and local matter.  Nothing in the Constitution gives the federal government the authority to micromanage schools, as much as we seem to like to.

17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Reforming Atlasian Public Health Act of 2014 (Amendment Vote) on: April 23, 2014, 09:36:39 pm
NAY

We tried this before, it was expensive, we'd need to raise taxes again.
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to the Paid Leave Act of 2013 (Debating) on: April 23, 2014, 09:34:58 pm
Does anyone have a fix to section 3 that takes into account what happens if the parents can't come to an arrangement between them as to how to share the paid leave? 
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Duke’s Let’s Put Atlasia to Work Program (Amendment Vote) on: April 23, 2014, 09:28:10 pm
NAY

If TNF wants to strike out the (arguably redundant) "cash equivalent" language and lower the amount in business loans I'd be on board with that but the rest of it doesn't make a scintilla of sense to me.
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Proportional Representation Act Fix of 2014 (Debating) on: April 23, 2014, 09:18:05 pm
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Proportional Representation Act Fix of 2014

Section 3, Clause 3 of the Proportional Representation Act is amended to read

3. If there are less than five weeks twenty one days before a regularly scheduled vacation of a vacant seat filled by the Proportional Representation Act or after the election, but before the end of the term, where the concerned ex-Senator is a member of major party at the time the vacancy arises, the same party shall be responsible for filling the vacancy by whatever means they deem fit and the party's leader shall inform the Senate of its decision.

Sponsor: Talleyrand
Slot: Forum Affairs


Would this language work? (It's an amendment)

That's pretty confusing honestly.    There's got to be a simpler solution.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Bill of Rights Amendment (At Final Vote) on: April 23, 2014, 06:24:04 pm
A final vote is now open once again on this Constitutional Amendment, Senators please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

just to be clear, this is a resumption of the vote, not the vote starting over?
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Executive Compensation Act of 2014 (Debating) on: April 23, 2014, 06:23:15 pm
What's wrong with stock-based compensation?
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Long-term Unemployment Relief Act (Debating) on: April 23, 2014, 06:08:05 pm
feedback isn't hostile, Cinci. Tongue

AYE
24  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Indira Gandhi on: April 23, 2014, 05:53:58 pm
Yeah, judging her by the standards we generally use would probably make her a HP, but these standards don't really make any sense in context.

How was she not an HP in context?
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Pro-life Dems feeling partisan pinch on: April 23, 2014, 05:42:39 pm
Both senators Harry Reid and Thomas Carper voted for the partial birth abortion act and Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004, however, I doubt they support a roe vs wade overturn. Though Reid has hinted that he would allow a vote on a 20 week abortion ban.
Reid has said he'd opposed to Roe v. Wade

Has he said anything like that in the last 5 years, or made any votes that indicate it?
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