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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bernie Sanders Says He Will Not End Drone Program If Elected President on: August 31, 2015, 09:23:27 pm
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RADDATZ: Would you do away with the drone program? Would you do away with the drone program because you have clearly had problems with that. You didn't vote for CIA director John Brennan because of the drone program and how it was run.

SANDERS: I think what you -- Martha, what you can argue is that there are times and places where drone attacks have been effective, there are times and places where they have been absolutely countereffective and have caused more problems when they have solved. When you kill innocent people, what the end result is that people in the region become anti-American who otherwise would not have been.

So, I think we have to use drones very, very selectively and effectively. That has not always been the case.

If I were considering supporting Sanders, I'd want to hear more specifics, but as a general statement I don't have too much of a problem with it.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Denali ! on: August 31, 2015, 08:47:21 pm
This kind of revisionism out of PC sentiments is generally utter nonsense. I have no reason to assume it's different in this case.

Okay, but why should it remain Mt. McKinley when the majority of Alaskans (including the Natives) want it to be Denali?

Because white tradition ought be preserved, especially when it whitewashes cultures!

"whitewashes cultures"?   please stop, it's excruciating.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Walker: building a wall on Canadian border is worth considering on: August 31, 2015, 08:24:18 pm
The guy is a joke but looking at the context, his answer does not appear to merit that much derision. He didn't say that "building a wall is a legitimate issue" but that border security is a legitimate issue in the north as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=172UE2I6wjE

I think this is right, but the fact that it took a whole day of this being in the news before his campaign issued any clarification is a sign of severe incompetence.
4  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Do you believe Hillary Clinton should be put in prison? on: August 31, 2015, 03:41:52 pm
I believe there are people in prison now for doing more or less the same thing as Hillary.  As to whether that should be the case, probably not, but whatever the standard is it should apply without regard to whether someone is an influential political figure.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Denali ! on: August 31, 2015, 01:15:55 pm
If the renaming was being blocked by Ohioans in Congress, how is Obama legally permitted to do this?

This is what I am wondering too. 

If Trump became President, he really could just start naming mountains and other natural features after himself?  I thought that was just a joke.
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of ironic and unironic Trump supporters on: August 31, 2015, 12:48:31 am
I can't tell the difference at this point, and I think for many neither can they.
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Institute of Funny Partial Thread Titles You've Seen on Atlas on: August 31, 2015, 12:30:24 am
August 30, 2015, 11:53:30 pm
in Re: Who should be the fa...

...ther of my baby?


and a good thread/username combo:
 Today at 12:37:10 am
in Re: The topless parade. ...
by sex-negative feminist prude
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Rubio Ridge ticket? on: August 31, 2015, 12:28:27 am
to subconsciously make people think of Ruby Ridge?   interesting strategy.   people forget that it happened under GHWB and not under Clinton.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - The Whinge Binge on: August 31, 2015, 12:23:26 am
Met Ted today it was fabulous, also got a selfie with the presidential selfie girls.

who?
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Who is further left? on: August 30, 2015, 10:42:23 pm
probably the one who tried to institute a 75% tax rate.
11  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What are the votes you most regret? on: August 30, 2015, 08:15:36 pm
Allen in 2006 and 2012, since Webb and Kaine both ended up being pretty decent.

I would say Bush in 2004 but all the other options were awful too.
12  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of extreme 'sensitivity' measures taken by academia on: August 29, 2015, 06:36:25 pm
About as horrible as the training seminars where they encourage us to practice 'mindfulness' and other such neopagan practices. Thankfully, no one actually cares and instead views the conversation as an hour they could have been doing something else.

Mindfulness seems like it would be a very helpful skill for dealing with the stress of being a student, and I don't think it need conflict with Christianity.

I was being a little hyperbolic in calling it neopagan perhaps, but, using Wikipedia's definition of it:

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Mindfulness is the intentional, accepting and non-judgmental focus of one's attention on the emotions, thoughts and sensations occurring in the present moment, which can be trained by meditational practices that are described in detail in the Buddhist tradition.

There is definitely some tension here with the Christian understandings of reflection, examination of conscience, and prayer in general. I don't think the university is trying to make everyone Buddhist, rather to brainwash us all into "non-judgmentalism" of whichever variety is fashionable of late.

Also, what is academia doing putting Buddhist practices into secular seminars?

It is because it is accepted by mainstream psychology as a way to avoid downward spirals of anxiety.

Sometimes it can be helpful to observe of one's feelings and experiences while suspending judgement, which is not the same thing as never judging anything right or wrong.
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Steve Beshear for vice president? on: August 29, 2015, 08:49:40 am
I prefer Steve Buscemi.
14  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Serious question: When will the US start taking in asylum seekers ? on: August 29, 2015, 08:47:59 am
I agree that 8k is absurdly low for Syrian refugees. I would think there would be the political will to increase that, but maybe recognizing the fear of there being a covert terrorist or two among the number has kept it from being something politicians have got in front of.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NLRB Ruling Clears Way for Unions in Fast Food Industry on: August 29, 2015, 08:32:54 am
With this decision - if a contractor deals with more than one company or organization, the contractor may have to pay their employers different wages and benefits depending on who they are working with?
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of extreme 'sensitivity' measures taken by academia on: August 28, 2015, 11:49:26 pm
These students are going to be reading a lot of works with gendered language in it so they need to be okay with it in order to have an education that doesn't completely miss the point.  I use "they" a lot of the time, sometimes "he," and occasionally "she" for a hypothetical person of indefinite gender.  Language is flexible and in some ways inherently imprecise.  I am guessing languages where concepts and inanimate objects are assigned gendered forms do not have this obsession with pc pronouns, as they recognize there is some arbitrariness involved?

About as horrible as the training seminars where they encourage us to practice 'mindfulness' and other such neopagan practices. Thankfully, no one actually cares and instead views the conversation as an hour they could have been doing something else.

Mindfulness seems like it would be a very helpful skill for dealing with the stress of being a student, and I don't think it need conflict with Christianity.
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which political party is more approving of the following music genre? on: August 28, 2015, 10:52:41 pm
Liberals tend to like country-ish folk music by the likes of Pete Seeger and Woody Allen, and plenty of Democrats from the South and West, white and black, like normal country.  Younger, more secular Republicans tend to like rap, but most do not.  So I would say Democrats and country here.

Woody Allen plays jazz, but it would be fun to see him do a folk song.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act on: August 28, 2015, 10:27:28 pm
There will be up to 55 votes for it.   Casey, Donelly and Manchin vote Aye; Kirk and Collins vote Nay.

Wow, I am very dissapointed in my Senator.
You're disappointed by something your senator didn't do yet?

I guess I didn't do my research. I assumed shua was referring to Kirk publicly expressing he'd vote against the bill or something of that sort.

No, just a prediction based on prior voting record.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Yes, Jeb actually said this "I have libertarian blood in my veins" on: August 28, 2015, 10:26:20 pm
He believes freedom is sacred, which is why he sacrifices libertarians and drinks their blood.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: When did you first hear of each of the candidates? on: August 27, 2015, 10:33:13 pm
Hillary - 1992
Biden - mid 1990s
Chafee - 2003
Webb - 2006 Senate primary campaign
Sanders - 2006
O'Malley - 2010

Trump - early 1990s
Carson - early 1990s (Gifted Hands)
Santorum - 1994
Jeb - mid 1990s
Gilmore - mid 1990s
Pataki - mid-late 1990s
Kasich - mid-late 1990s
Graham - 2004
Huckabee - 2005
Jindal - 2008
Christie - 2009
Paul - 2009
Rubio - 2009
Walker - 2010
Fiorina - 2010
Perry - 2010
Cruz - 2012
21  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of this proposal on: August 27, 2015, 08:23:38 pm
FP, would at least send a clear signal of what is socially acceptable, which often changes social norms along the way (though not always).


Laws with inherently vague standards attached to them are not good ways to send a clear signal.

The standards aren't vague. Any woman can tell the difference between actual compliments and harassment.

Even acknowledging a woman's infallible capacity for categorization of communications, can a man also tell this difference?

Even if he can't tell the difference on his own, he could ask a woman what is OK and what isn't.

Yeah, I'm sure women all have exactly the same opinion on these things.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary Clinton compares pro-lifers to terrorist groups on: August 27, 2015, 08:18:44 pm
She should go after Bernie next:

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"Now, socialism, we expect that from North Korea, we expect that from people who don't want to live a world where the Soviets have been defeated, but it's a little hard to take from someone who wants to be the president of the United States," Clinton said. "Yet he espouses out of date, out of touch policies. He is dead wrong for 21st century America. We are going forward, we are not going back."

note she's not actually calling Bernie Sanders a Stalinist guys, so it's ok.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Donald Trump a sincere Christian? on: August 27, 2015, 08:08:08 pm
I think he may be sincere in being, as Sam Spade calls him, a follower of the gospel of Norman Vincent Peale.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary Clinton compares pro-lifers to terrorist groups on: August 27, 2015, 07:51:07 pm
Anyway, if you read the article, she seems to be talking about contraception, HIV tests, and cancer screenings.

Yes, she is characterizing those who believe the government should move its funding of this to places that don't specialize in abortions as being anti-woman extremism comparable to that of terrorist groups.
25  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of this proposal on: August 27, 2015, 05:55:49 pm
FP, would at least send a clear signal of what is socially acceptable, which often changes social norms along the way (though not always).


Laws with inherently vague standards attached to them are not good ways to send a clear signal.

The standards aren't vague. Any woman can tell the difference between actual compliments and harassment.

Even acknowledging a woman's infallible capacity for categorization of communications, can a man also tell this difference?
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