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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Ted Cruz on ISIS, and the split among GOP hawks on: Today at 12:50:33 am
It's certainly hard to take Cruz seriously but sometimes I find it hard to take Beinart seriously too.  Why does he think it doesn't make any sense to bomb ISIS if we aren't going to arm the FSA?  It makes sense as a strategy so long as we are trying to limit and degrade ISIS rather than outright destroy them ourselves. Cruz is here making a more radical version of the mistake Obama is, talking about destroying ISIS while not being straight about what that would actually require if it is even plausible.

Cruz's advocacy of military power but suspicion of other nations looks like an approach Walter Russell Mead would call Jacksonian. In that sense I don't think it is anything new even if Cruz makes it look a bit more pandering and harebrained than usual. It is a stance that has widely been popular among the American Right, and stands in contrast to those Neoconservatives who combine both Jacksonian and Wilsonian values.
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: North Dakota Measure 1 on: Today at 12:15:19 am
Quote
"The inalienable right to life of every human being at any stage of development must be
recognized and protected."

I can't argue with that.
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Who will win in Arkansas? on: September 22, 2014, 10:00:56 pm
the touch, the feel



We need less fossils in the government if you ask me.

at least Pryor might be a Young Earth fossil.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Paul: Benghazi affair should disqualify Clinton from holding office again on: September 22, 2014, 09:36:39 pm
Half of the time I love Rand Paul, half of the time I want him to just shut his mouth. It's a super frustrating conundrum.

true story.
5  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Predictions shown on forum posts on: September 22, 2014, 02:30:37 pm
Thanks Dave!
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Complete List of Gubernatorial Candidates on: September 22, 2014, 12:12:31 pm
What's up with PA not having any third parties lately?  Seems like they used to have them a lot.
7  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Were there any big cities in the South pre-1860? on: September 22, 2014, 12:05:07 pm
Virginia Beach, VA - 7,669*

This must be for the present area of Virginia Beach, which was then Princess Anne County (until the 1960s when it became the City of Virginia Beach). So not a city but a county with a number of scattered villages and towns. I don't know if the town that was known as "Virginia Beach" in the late 19th century was around yet but if it was it wasn't more than a few hundred people.
8  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 2000 Presidential Election on: September 22, 2014, 12:03:43 am
Without hindsight, Bush.   With hindsight, any of the others.
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Mechaman for Mideast Assembly on: September 21, 2014, 11:57:14 pm
You did it! Cheesy
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Office of Mideast Governor TJ on: September 21, 2014, 11:56:40 pm
Congrats on another term!
11  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Which Canadian province is most socially conservative? on: September 21, 2014, 08:30:01 pm
Attendance at religious services by province and regional pockets, albeit from 2003:

http://www.ghcisocialscience.com/uploads/1/3/5/9/13590293/religious_attendance_in_canada.pdf

BC and Quebec are the lowest; PEI, New Brunswick and Newfoundland are the highest.

"Bible belts" are evident in Atlantic Canada and the rural southern prairies in particular. 

PEI has the highest figure there by province for monthly attendance (53%) which is close to the US average.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Election Results by Congressional Districts, OFFICIAL THREAD on: September 20, 2014, 07:17:36 pm
1994 was more like putting the door on the coffin than the last nail in it.  Before then the Congressional Democrats still retained the clear advantage in the South even if it wasn't 'solid.'    It looks like in the Deep South states the Democrats actually still won more seats in 1994 than in 2006.

1994 Congressional Elections:



2006 Congressional Elections:



13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish independence referendum results thread (Sept 18, 2014) on: September 20, 2014, 06:22:42 pm
"Once in a generation" should mean around 20 years, no?

No, the question will return again for one day every hundred years.  Then it will vanish into the highland mist.
14  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: In Theory, Would a Peaceful Islamic Caliphate Have Merit? on: September 20, 2014, 06:17:13 pm
Absolutely not if it's Wahhabi.

What type of distinction is that?  Do think there's some version of Islam that's compatible with modernity and liberal values?

I didn't really say it was a good idea regardless, but a Wahhabi Caliphate of any kind would be guaranteed to be absolutely awful.

That's kind of a buzz word, Wahhabi.  In reality, there are no neat lines to draw between standard Suni Islam whether it's Wahhabi or Salafi or generic.  It's not like Anglican vs. Lutheran vs. 7th day Adventist. 

To risk oversimplifying, the more conservative schools of thought in Islam are more literal, committed to Islam as a total answer to everything and consumed with religion above all else.  They've basically rotten away their rational thinking abilities with their religion.  However, I don't think there is what we tend to call "moderate Islam" either.  There are people who take religion less seriously and their rationality and humanity guides them to keep religion from clouding their judgment.  There is no moderate, progressive version of Islam, there's no reform Judaism or Episcopalian equivalent in Islam.

Of course it is possible for a Muslim to take his or her religion seriously without wanting to behead those who disagree with them. How is this in question?  That doesn't even necessitate being "modern" or "progressive" or whatever those terms mean in this context.

Not beheading random people who disagree with you is nice, but it does not mean that you embrace basic values of Western liberalism and human rights. 

Why do reforms toward greater freedom and respect for persons need to be Western to be worthwhile?
15  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: In Theory, Would a Peaceful Islamic Caliphate Have Merit? on: September 20, 2014, 10:54:57 am
Absolutely not if it's Wahhabi.

What type of distinction is that?  Do think there's some version of Islam that's compatible with modernity and liberal values?

I didn't really say it was a good idea regardless, but a Wahhabi Caliphate of any kind would be guaranteed to be absolutely awful.

That's kind of a buzz word, Wahhabi.  In reality, there are no neat lines to draw between standard Suni Islam whether it's Wahhabi or Salafi or generic.  It's not like Anglican vs. Lutheran vs. 7th day Adventist. 

To risk oversimplifying, the more conservative schools of thought in Islam are more literal, committed to Islam as a total answer to everything and consumed with religion above all else.  They've basically rotten away their rational thinking abilities with their religion.  However, I don't think there is what we tend to call "moderate Islam" either.  There are people who take religion less seriously and their rationality and humanity guides them to keep religion from clouding their judgment.  There is no moderate, progressive version of Islam, there's no reform Judaism or Episcopalian equivalent in Islam.

Of course it is possible for a Muslim to take his or her religion seriously without wanting to behead those who disagree with them. How is this in question?  That doesn't even necessitate being "modern" or "progressive" or whatever those terms mean in this context.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gun control loons getting loonier on: September 20, 2014, 01:59:28 am
And you know what, while I don't see the appeal personally, especially at the price, I can easily see some hunting enthusiast wanting one so as to be able to brag about bringing down a trophy deer with a single shot at 1000 yards.  So the no legitimate purpose argument can be quickly be discarded.

It's nothing really to brag about if the gun is doing all the work.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sanders backs Obama on ISIS on: September 20, 2014, 01:18:29 am
Rand and Sanders support striking ISIS but the sticking point, as for many observers, is arming the Syrian rebels. Sanders sounded like he was open to being convinced on arming the rebels but in the end Obama didn't make the sale.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: 2014 Senatorial Endorsements: on: September 20, 2014, 01:04:26 am


yellow is Groff (Green) in DE, Victor Williams (write-in) in AL, Rob Maness (R) in LA, and all others Libertarian.
19  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: In Theory, Would a Peaceful Islamic Caliphate Have Merit? on: September 20, 2014, 12:47:34 am
There's a lot worth being nostalgic about here when compared to the present moment, but for the reasons Foucalf said it wouldn't be sustainable even if you were somehow able to achieve it. Even in Medieval times I don't believe there was a true pan-Islamic caliphate after the Umayyads of the 8th century. 
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Mideast Voting Booth: September 2014 Elections on: September 19, 2014, 10:58:00 am
Executive Election:
[2] TJ in Cleve/Tmthforu94
[1] Bmotley/Shua

Legislative Election:
[5] Hifly
[1] Mechaman
[2] Spiral
[3] Write-In: Shua
[4] Write-In: Bmotley
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Candidate Declaration Thread on: September 19, 2014, 10:56:15 am
I will accept write-ins for Mideast Assembly.
22  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Predictions shown on forum posts on: September 19, 2014, 09:58:48 am
They are still from 2012. Can this be updated?
23  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Online-only BS in Diablo III on: September 18, 2014, 02:53:09 pm
That's an odd subject for a degree. Colleges keep trying too hard to be "relevant."
24  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: When do endorsements go up? on: September 18, 2014, 02:44:58 pm
A couple glitches I noticed: the totals for Idaho have votes for Jim Risch divided into two classes and when I try to endorse the Libertarian in Hawaii the color is yellow but it gets counted as Republican.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: September 18, 2014, 02:10:26 pm
Guillotine is one of the most efficient and painless execution methods there is....
I'll take it then.  I can't take any more this Lenin trolling.
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