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26  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Strange Oklahoma map on: April 23, 2014, 03:09:16 pm
This is the 1976 Ford/Carter map. Ford still won. The last time OK County was won by a Democrat was 1964. I can't find full data on Tulsa County, but it's gone GOP since at least the 1950s.

1936 (nineteen thirty-six) was the last time Tulsa County went for the Democrats. That's sick...

That is shocking. I know the relatively populous counties in most Southern(-ish) states started voting consistently Republican with the first Eisenhower landslide (ex. Harris and Dallas counties in Texas). What would the rationale be for Tulsans to vote Republican in the 1940s when their state was still largely Democratic and that party had an advantage nationwide?

It was probably some of the same things in Northern Oklahoma as it was for the swing to the Republicans in the other plains states:  a sense the New Deal wasn't working well, wanting to stay out of war, and an attractive candidate in Willkie.
27  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is this the worst post in the history of Atlas? on: April 23, 2014, 02:42:26 pm
how does this post violate TOS?

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You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, adult material, or otherwise in violation of any International or United States Federal law.

Nope, nothing about stupidity.   
28  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is this the worst post in the history of Atlas? on: April 23, 2014, 02:34:07 pm
how does this post violate TOS?
29  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Simple Truths Silver Mine on: April 23, 2014, 12:55:59 pm
I wouldn't place the blame so much on teachers' unions as other factors.  We've loaded down the school day with more "things that must be done", both educational and sociological, without really increasing the time available to do them.  The added time needed has primarily come by squeezing the time spent for "non-essentials" such as recess and lunch, and a result, we have kids who are having to engage in long grinding school days with little chance of a break to recharge or socialize.  In education these days, we tend to treat kids as learning machines and then are surprised when they fail to be machines.

Plus, the no child left behind ethos, while good in the abstract, has meant we're spending resources on children who would have been left behind back when you were going to school, and in some places that has been at the expense of those who were previously advantaged.
30  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bob Dole goes home on: April 23, 2014, 12:50:06 pm
I took the thread title to be a euphemism for "dead".

Me too. I'm just gonna tweak the subject for clarity.

still could be a euphemism.
31  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Is "Hey Soul Sister" one of the worst songs ever? on: April 23, 2014, 12:48:53 pm
No.  The music isn't anything special but it's not worse than any of the other thousands of songs that sound the same.  I've heard it dozens of times or more and I've managed to not pay any attention to the lyrics.  It's harmless really and unremarkable.
32  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is this the worst post in the history of Atlas? on: April 23, 2014, 12:42:11 pm
To be fair, in large parts of the world this is how people think. When I was in India I read that a majority of rape complaints get withdrawn by the family after the rapist agrees to marry the girl. After all, in patriarchal societies the problem of a rape is not the violation of the woman's rights (because she doesn't really have any) but the damage done to the father or husband's valuable property.

I don't think Oldiesfreak is saying anything like that.
33  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Long-term Unemployment Relief Act (Debating) on: April 23, 2014, 12:39:00 pm
After the vote on that amendment, I'd like to offer this:
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6. It shall be the policy of the Atlasian Federal Government and all its agencies that any gap(s) in an applicant's employment shall not in itself be considered a basis for disqualification or nonconsideration for employment or contract.
34  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: One Quarter of All Americans are Skeptical of Global Warming -Gallup on: April 23, 2014, 01:05:47 am
They say it's a "cluster analysis" of these four questions:


Looks like more than 1/4 are skeptical, since that can describe some of the responses among the "mixed middle" (ex. the number of people who think it is exaggerated).
I'm somewhat skeptical but still recognize there are reasons to be concerned.
35  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Pro-life Dems feeling partisan pinch on: April 23, 2014, 12:49:40 am
What about Pryor?

a mixed bag. Cotton's campaign even has a website on the issue:
http://www.prosomethingpryor.com/
36  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is this the worst post in the history of Atlas? on: April 23, 2014, 12:40:48 am
If it made any sense at all it would be horribly offensive, but thankfully it doesn't.
37  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Legislation Introduction Thread on: April 23, 2014, 12:30:56 am
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The Drug Reform Act of 2014

1. The Comprehensive Drug Reform Act of 2013 is hereby repealed.

I would like to assume sponsorship of this bill.

I would like to remove my sponsorship of this bill.
38  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Legislation Introduction Thread on: April 23, 2014, 12:30:05 am
The Free the Small Start-Ups Act

The Break the Shell Corporations Act is hereby repealed.
39  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Proportional Representation Act Fix of 2014 (Debating) on: April 23, 2014, 12:23:27 am
Ok, so it seems the reason we can have party appointments to fill the seat is because of the constitution doesn't specify if or how a senate vacancy is filled if the vacancy occurs after three weeks before the next regular election:

Quote from:  Article I, Section 4, clause 5
If a vacancy shall occur in a Class B Senate seat more than twenty-one days before the regularly scheduled election for that seat, then a special election shall be called to fill the remainder of the vacated term within one week of the vacancy occurring

I don't think saying five weeks before the next term works because there may be cases where that is not the same as 21 days before the election.
40  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: If you could change the outcome of one of these elections, which would you? on: April 23, 2014, 12:09:39 am
Even though I like Gore the least of any of these losing candidates, I'll say 2000 given the implications of the next four/eight years under Bush.
41  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: SCOTUS upholds Michigan affirmative action ban on: April 23, 2014, 12:03:36 am
Also, given the number of cases Kagan has dissented on, she's starting to look like a bad pick.

Huh

I think he meant recused.
42  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who here has political ambitions? on: April 22, 2014, 10:39:57 pm
I had daydreams about it in the past, but no.
43  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Why is Oklahoma so hostile to third parties? on: April 22, 2014, 10:25:48 pm
They wouldn't let Teddy Roosevelt on the ballot in 1912, or Ralph Nader in 2000, so they appear to always have had very restrictive ballot access laws. The only reason Debs did so well there in 1912 was protest votes from people who would have voted for TR.

Somehow John Anderson was able to qualify in 1980, even then he only got 3.3%, as opposed to 6.6% nationally, although he was weak throughout the South.

In 1948 both Wallace and Thurmond weren't on the ballot, but Norman Thomas made it in 1936 while Lemke didn't.

Now as to why the laws are so restrictive, I have no idea.

Debs did no better in OK than would be expected from Socialist strength there during the era:  Benson didn't do nearly as well nationally four years later, but did almost as well in Oklahoma.   It seems that since TR's candidacy, like Thurmond's later, came out of a post-convention split, that made it harder for them to get their parties on the ballot as opposed to an established party like the Socialists who had their electors all ready to go.
44  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Public Intoxication Act (Redraft at Vote) on: April 22, 2014, 09:53:46 pm
AYE
45  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Duke-Scott Educating The People Reform (Debating) on: April 22, 2014, 08:48:50 pm
amendment offered:
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Section I
1. The following must be offered free of any additional charge by all public schools operating in the Republic of Atlasia Federal Government of Atlasia will allocate $3 billion in grants to needy school districts for the provision of:
a. Healthcare
b. Mental healthcare
c. On-site guidance counselors
d. Lunch
e. Recess time
f. Tutors
2. School districts that are unable to comply with any part of clause 1 of this section due to financial limitations are entitled to apply for grants from the federal government to allow them to comply.


Section II - WiFi Expansion
1. $2 billion shall be appropriated for expanding WiFi access to public schools servicing nearly 20 million students in the Republic of Atlasia.

Section III - Expanded Access to Computer Technology
1. All Every public schools lacking adequate technology including computers and projects shall be eligible for a federal grant not to exceed $50,000.

Section IV - Textbooks
1. Each public school teacher will receive a $1000 grant for the selection of his or her own classroom textbooks.  These textbooks may be ordered upon approval of his or her district education board.


Section V - Recess
1. All public schools will be required to allocate no less than 30 minutes each day for recess.
2. High school seniors may apply for the privilege to leave school grounds during recess time, but only upon the approval of his or her guidance counselor.
46  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Proportional Representation Act Fix of 2014 (Debating) on: April 22, 2014, 08:07:50 pm
Did we make a constitutional amendment to allow this?  I'm trying to remember.
47  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Save Our Sharks Act of 2014 (Debating) on: April 22, 2014, 07:18:59 pm
AYE
48  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: If Woodrow Wilson were alive today, which party would he be affiliated with? on: April 22, 2014, 11:15:04 am
I know this post will go ignored like  many others I make, but I wish we'd bear in mind that Wilson was the [/i]least economically interventionist[/i] candidate in 1912. His 'New Freedom' platform of industrial regulation was pitched as a pro-market alternative to either Taft's record of trust-busting (more trusts broken up than under TR) or to the direct nationalizations of industry proposed under the Progressive Party's 'New Nationalism'.

New Freedom was pitched as a relatively pro-market approach to trust-busting.  The industrialists at this time generally supported protectionist policies so they went with Taft.  Labor supported free trade and tended to see Wilson's New Freedom and it's call for decentralized economic power and the break-up of monopolies as better than TR's proposals for tightly regulated monopolies. 

It's possible to see some anti-corporatist tea party populist types responding to some of Wilson's campaigning, but the tea party would find enough other reason to hate him.  He'd probably fit in better with the Democratic party.
49  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Leave of Absence on: April 22, 2014, 10:32:45 am
All right, gentlemen, I have been informed that I can resign* from this special term I'm currently serving, swear into my full term on the 2nd, and declare a LOA of about two weeks or so as my life becomes a living hell that only serves to prepare me for many more in the future, so I believe that is what I shall do.

Have fun and sorry Nix and Nick and Polnut for being so unbecoming of a Senator with regards to the timing of my announcement and the election and such things.

*How exactly do I do this, by the way? Do I create a thread? Do I make a mess of the perfect order of the swearing in thread? Do I consume the flesh of the innocent as they scream for mercy?

You can resign in the swearing in thread.
50  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: South American/Asian Trade Reform Act (At Final Vote) on: April 22, 2014, 10:28:59 am
AYE
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