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26  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Should the French Monarchy be Restored? on: August 11, 2017, 11:41:15 pm
No, and anyone who proposes such a thing is un-American.

I forget, was it the 1st or 2nd French Republic that enabled the American colonies to win their war of independence ?

Enemy of my enemy, lesser of two evils, etc.

?

What's to question?

relevance.

I realize I didn't word that very well. My point was that the United States and the French Monarchy having a common enemy in England doesn't necessarily mean that the French Monarchy stood for the same values as the United States.

True, but one can still be grateful.
27  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Congressman Dana Rohrabacher retweets white supremacist on: August 11, 2017, 11:37:18 pm
This person quoted someone who also says bad things. Imagine that.  Wow, very scary stuff.

It's generally seen in bad taste to retweet white nationalists in California. Is this normal for folks like yourself who reside in the former Confederacy?

Normal people most places do not pay much attention to who it is they are retweeting, unless it's like from Cher or Kermit the Frog or someone especially famous (assuming they engage in retweeting, which isn't an especially normal thing to begin with).  Most people, outside of very narrow demographics, pay more attention to content.

Riiiight, because it's unfair to judge Rohrabacher on the merits of this action when the rest of his behavior is just so stellar. Celebrating the deaths of Iranian civilians, suggesting we support Isis, shilling for Russia the second half of his career are certainly traits that demonstrate Rohrabacher's "content" (if you want to call his garbage views content) was nonsensical to begin with.

So you are just using this as ammunition against someone you have problems with for other reasons and don't really care about the tweet itself?  okey dokey then.

You're the one who shifted the conversation to the content itself. Not particularly surprising given that no reasonable person is gonna defend somebody giving a platform to a white nationalist. But hey, I guess thinking is different down south in Dixie.

Twitter is giving this guy a platform, as are you by introducing us to this fellow, along with Dana. That's 3 strikes for the enlightened avocado gods of the Golden State.

Tweets are about content. Normal people, as opposed to algorithms, read tweets and don't just look at who is being retweeted.
28  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Congressman Dana Rohrabacher retweets white supremacist on: August 11, 2017, 11:14:58 pm
This person quoted someone who also says bad things. Imagine that.  Wow, very scary stuff.

It's generally seen in bad taste to retweet white nationalists in California. Is this normal for folks like yourself who reside in the former Confederacy?

Normal people most places do not pay much attention to who it is they are retweeting, unless it's like from Cher or Kermit the Frog or someone especially famous (assuming they engage in retweeting, which isn't an especially normal thing to begin with).  Most people, outside of very narrow demographics, pay more attention to content.

Riiiight, because it's unfair to judge Rohrabacher on the merits of this action when the rest of his behavior is just so stellar. Celebrating the deaths of Iranian civilians, suggesting we support Isis, shilling for Russia the second half of his career are certainly traits that demonstrate Rohrabacher's "content" (if you want to call his garbage views content) was nonsensical to begin with.

So you are just using this as ammunition against someone you have problems with for other reasons and don't really care about the tweet itself?  okey dokey then.
29  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Congressman Dana Rohrabacher retweets white supremacist on: August 11, 2017, 04:16:53 pm
This person quoted someone who also says bad things. Imagine that.  Wow, very scary stuff.

It's generally seen in bad taste to retweet white nationalists in California. Is this normal for folks like yourself who reside in the former Confederacy?

Normal people most places do not pay much attention to who it is they are retweeting, unless it's like from Cher or Kermit the Frog or someone especially famous (assuming they engage in retweeting, which isn't an especially normal thing to begin with).  Most people, outside of very narrow demographics, pay more attention to content.
30  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Congressman Dana Rohrabacher retweets white supremacist on: August 11, 2017, 02:51:40 pm
This person quoted someone who also says bad things. Imagine that.  Wow, very scary stuff.
31  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Gerald Ford vs. Jimmy Carter: Who has your vote? on: August 11, 2017, 02:40:39 pm
Carter. There was no "Reagan revolution" and an acceleration of market policies by an 80s Democratic president would have been worse in the long-term for progressives than what actually happened.

Can you explain what you mean here?  Are you saying these policies were an inevitability either way?
32  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Can a person ever be worthy of forgiveness? on: August 11, 2017, 02:20:58 pm
Before I go, I just want to ask that. What would it take for a person to cease being rejected, to cease being hated, and to redeem themselves? What would it take to be forgiven for past wrongdoings?

You can think I'm trolling, but I am truly tired of being hated for being myself. I tried to commit suicide last year by taking Xanax and drinking Jack Daniels.. I drank two bottles of JD and took three Xanax. Sist work but did some swell damage to my kidneys.

I know you're gonna kick me out, and I know you guys can't grasp that there is an actual human being on the other side of the screen (I'm real. I have a family; I have sisters, nieces, nephews and a girlfriend). I don't understand why you guys can't forgive me. I've always been rejected my whole life. Why can't you guys just accept me? Why can't you forgive me?

You have a girlfriend?  Shouldn't that be more important to your self-esteem than whether you are allowed on an internet forum?
33  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Was Google Right or Wrong to Fire the Memo Writer on: August 11, 2017, 01:47:55 pm
Political memos should not be circulated at work, period. If the guy has a problem with a policy, he should bring it up with his managers. If I circulated a memo challenging one of my company's HR policies, even if it was neither racist nor sexist, nor even political, I would probably be fired, too.

This. Virtually all large companies in America will fire you if you publicly and openly disagree with company policy.

That doesn't make it right. 

(Do I have to point this out to a 'socialist'?)
34  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Should anthropogenic global warming denial become a criminal offense? on: August 11, 2017, 03:35:16 am
The idea that it would accomplish anything helpful is itself a form of denial.
35  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Virginia Society for the Preservation and Appreciation of High-Quality Posts on: August 11, 2017, 02:51:01 am
Generally I don't approve of doxxing and wouldn't want someone to do it to me. But if I got doxxed it wouldn't "ruin my life" because I'm not on the internet saying the Holocaust didn't happen and telling people to get back in the oven. Not to mention that the expectation of complete anonymity on the internet is just naive these days. So I don't really feel sorry for them. If you don't wan to get caught being a racist POS don't be a racist POS. I would and do stand by any of the opinions I post on this site in public.

The trouble with this is that the internet rumour mill will often misquote or outright fabricate transgressions if it helps "the cause". This isn't really confined to the left - it happens on the right, and to weirdly apolitical causes as well. I think the trend of doxxing as a "legitimate tactic" really is chilling, because mobs - from gamergate to those Tumblr pages that catalog people in culturally appropriative Halloween costumes - are by their very nature unforgiving and unreasonable.

I do feel sympathy for alt-righters who get doxxed, even the real dicks. I also feel the same for most anybody an internet hivemind feels pissed off enough at to target. As a tactic, it's harmful to society and - the key failing of any political tactic - doesn't really accomplish anything except allow people to reach catharsis.

The real problem is that nobody feels like they are part of an internet mob, and it's even easier to get caught up in it than an IRL mob (after all, you will never get punched in the face via screen).
36  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Do you feel sympathy for alt righters who get doxxed? on: August 11, 2017, 02:47:45 am
Generally I don't approve of doxxing and wouldn't want someone to do it to me. But if I got doxxed it wouldn't "ruin my life" because I'm not on the internet saying the Holocaust didn't happen and telling people to get back in the oven. Not to mention that the expectation of complete anonymity on the internet is just naive these days. So I don't really feel sorry for them. If you don't wan to get caught being a racist POS don't be a racist POS. I would and do stand by any of the opinions I post on this site in public.

Indeed. This summarizes my view on ever feeling sorry for an alt-righter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw0GvsfOAZE


a very graceful, Christian opinion youz guyz have on this.

I'm of the very old-fashioned reactionary position that people with stupid and bigoted ideas should still have an opportunity to make a living like they have for most of human history.
37  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Should the French Monarchy be Restored? on: August 11, 2017, 01:09:42 am
No, and anyone who proposes such a thing is un-American.

I forget, was it the 1st or 2nd French Republic that enabled the American colonies to win their war of independence ?

Enemy of my enemy, lesser of two evils, etc.

?

What's to question?

relevance.
38  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban me on: August 10, 2017, 02:27:59 pm
Don't really need this account anymore.

Why not?  Do you have another one you like more?
39  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Senatorial map = Presidential map on: August 10, 2017, 01:36:28 pm
Montana is certainly the trickiest one.
If I know that both races will be won by the same party I could imagine that Bullock will be the Democratic candidate for VP and that that little girl from 2014 will finally have become senator.

Bullock for VP wouldn't swing MT.  Maybe as Presidential candidate.
40  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Stricer Gun control vs. Tougher Crime Laws on: August 09, 2017, 11:29:09 pm
In practice they are the same.
41  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Election Results by Congressional Districts, OFFICIAL THREAD on: August 09, 2017, 11:15:15 pm
I've been working on the 2016 GOP primary by CD, using the map started by Jerry Arkansas.



In states without results reported by CD, some estimation was involved using calculation of county totals and a close look at realisticidealist's precinct maps, population and republican voter density, etc. but should be very close.

ND and CO - State convention, no available popular vote results found.
IL - uses total votes for delegates declared to each candidate; the winning vote % tend to be slightly lower than what would be for the "popularity contest" (more votes for delegates representing Jeb, Carson, etc.)
PA-14 (Pittsburgh) could be either Kasich or Trump; PA-7 and NJ-10 are most likely Trump but percentage unknown.
42  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Should the French Monarchy be Restored? on: August 09, 2017, 02:16:56 pm
No, and anyone who proposes such a thing is un-American.

I forget, was it the 1st or 2nd French Republic that enabled the American colonies to win their war of independence ?

Enemy of my enemy, lesser of two evils, etc.

?
43  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Why in your opinion have the Democrats fallen so far the last 7 years? on: August 07, 2017, 09:25:23 pm
You mean 8 years?
44  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Best Liberal Prime Minister of Canada on: August 07, 2017, 05:41:20 pm
Where are all my Laurier bros?
45  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: August 07, 2017, 05:06:50 pm
The funny thing was that in the personal messages, he (ossoff2028) was questioning me about being ssuperflash's sock, even mentioning Eharding and a failed sock of his at one point. The irony here is astounding.

On another note, is it against ToS to make personal messages public?

In general, yes.
46  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: The Emoji movie is the worst film to ever be made, it's even worse than The Room on: August 06, 2017, 01:09:31 am
i don't know anything about The Room, but Room is an amazing movie.
47  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Favourite libertarian / classical liberal party of the Anglosphere (and UKIP) on: August 05, 2017, 12:01:56 am
I thought ukip stopped pretending they were libertarian?
48  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Cora Catalogue of Absurd & Ignorant Posts VII on: August 04, 2017, 11:57:16 pm
Mods, please delete this thread, thanks.
49  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Ossoff2028's Index of House District Partisanship on: August 04, 2017, 12:09:27 pm
Cool maps.

I never realized til now that Democrats only contested 1 seat in AR with Hillary running for president, which is weird to think about.
50  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone V: Born Under A Bad Sign on: August 03, 2017, 04:46:21 am
My mom has to stay overnight at the hospital for further observation. She went there because for like two weeks she's been having constant heart flutters or whatever that's called. Considering my dad passed suddenly in December due to heart complications, I'm really worried.

According to the internet, it's most likely stress related, which she has a lot of lately. It's rarely anything serious, which is good. So, I'm less worried now, but it's still scary. Hopefully it's just stress.

Sure, it can be scary.  I hope things go well for her.
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