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26  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Compulsory Voting on: August 24, 2015, 10:10:46 pm
I fail to see how forcing apathetic and uninformed people to vote helps the "health of democracy".

Australia is a pretty healthy democracy. Healthier than the US, anyway.

in what sense?

More engagement, higher participation, more varied choices?

One would expect they would have more varied choices given preference voting, and of course they have higher voter participation given the punitive response to not voting.   What is the measure of "engagement"?
27  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Compulsory Voting on: August 24, 2015, 07:54:15 pm
I fail to see how forcing apathetic and uninformed people to vote helps the "health of democracy".

Australia is a pretty healthy democracy. Healthier than the US, anyway.

in what sense?
28  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Paraguay successful at denying 11-year old incest victim abortion on: August 24, 2015, 07:44:23 pm
I don't believe rape or incest should make abortions easier to obtain.  The sole valid justification for restricting abortion is to protect what is considered to be a human life and no matter how vile the biological father is, that vileness has no bearing on whether it is a human life.

The girl is a human life as well, and it is reasonable to protect the human already in existence (with established emotional ties to other humans and importance in their lives) over the unborn. Bearing your rapists child is an extremely traumatic occurrence that is likely to inflict her for the rest of her life. Health of the mother includes mental health of the mother. It can not reasonably be limited to psychical health.

So despicable decision/law all around.

What makes you think an abortion would be less traumatic than a birth? 
29  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What's with all these borderline fascists? on: August 24, 2015, 06:20:06 pm
Fascism is an actual thing that doesn't mean "something I don't like"
30  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Carson suggests possible drone use on US borders on: August 24, 2015, 06:17:38 pm
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/read-my-lips-carson-gets-testy-on-cnn-over-drones-at-border-comments/
31  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bush clarifies 'anchor babies' wasn't anti-Hispanic slur, it was about Asians on: August 24, 2015, 06:06:13 pm
It is ridiculous that Jeb is being scolded for using the words "anchor babies as they are described" rather than asking him for proof that there is this type of fraud he is saying there is and what specifically he thinks the response should be to it.
32  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What does the red mean? on: August 22, 2015, 07:35:48 pm
DO YOUR OWN ING HOMEWORK JACKASS!!!
人渣,滚一边去!

For anyone too lazy to check, google translates this as "Scum, go to hell!"

ROFL

How about put this into english?
坚守阵地。在敌人没有开枪以前,不要先开枪;但是,如果敌人硬要把战争强加在我们头上,那么,就让战争从这儿开始吧!这是为了纪念美国历史上著名的独立战争的第一个战役莱克星顿战斗而立的。

I'll take the sesame bean curd.
33  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Compulsory Voting on: August 22, 2015, 04:43:53 pm
FL (takes democracy seriously)

This is what happens when you take a good but imperfect idea to its absurd extreme conclusion.
34  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Expecting 30,000+ At S. Alabama University: HELD AT FOOTBALL STADIUM on: August 21, 2015, 08:16:16 pm
Ugh. A huge collection of the uninformed and idiots listening to idiotic proposals.

It's the 2016 board, what did you expect?
35  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: August 2015 Federal Election - At-Large Senate on: August 21, 2015, 07:53:13 pm
1.NCYankee
2.jomcar
3.Kalwejt
4.Cris
36  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Interesting thing happened today at work (re: racism/hate speech) on: August 20, 2015, 11:23:59 pm
It was an incredibly vile statement, but the idea of employers scouring people's postings for things to fire them for is awful.  Jerks need jobs too.
37  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Black Lives Matter on: August 20, 2015, 11:19:52 pm
Framing police brutality/excessive force solely as a "black" issue is not a recipe for sustained progress against it IMO.

https://twitter.com/probirdrights/status/368542088897372161

You like to play the simpleton don't you?  Maybe at least try to engage with the substance of what I said next time, even if it is hard for you.

difficult, considering there's no substance to engage with

I made a statement of my opinion, at least some of the implications of which I thought were pretty clear for a country where 8/9 of the country is not black.  If you need me to spell it out further, you can ask me about it instead of running immediately to your dank memes that you think magically discredit those you disagree with.

"Black lives matter" is a great statement to make, given the way black lives have been and continue to be devalued in many ways in American society.  "All lives matter" is also a good statement, and should be embraced as the corollary within the context of killings and abuses from the criminal justice system, since not all of the victims are black, it is a systemic problem, that cannot be completely attributed to racism.  If you could somehow get rid of all racial prejudice from police and the courts, blacks would still be disproportionately in contact with police and the courts - so what are these encounters going to be like?  A fundamental reworking of the relationship between governmental force and those communities it is supposed to serve and protect is necessary, not just going after cops for real or supposed racial animus. 

The fact is blacks bear the harshest brunt of a system which can be violent and unjust towards those of all races.  The assumption being communicated that if you are not black it is not a problem you have to worry about facing personally creates an unnecessary distance from the issue for the majority of the American population.   
38  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Megathread: Congressional Vote on the Iran Deal on: August 20, 2015, 10:45:08 pm
The info coming out on these side deals regarding Iranian self-inspection may make the vote even on sustaining the veto uncomfortably close.

There's a fair deal of controversy there with the original AP article.

Interesting, and a relief to hear that it isn't what it's made out to be.  Still there will be commercials and politicians citing the AP.
39  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would you have been a Democrat pre-1900? on: August 20, 2015, 10:37:19 pm
Party registration per se was not so much a thing back then, was it?   
40  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kasich on Abortion on: August 20, 2015, 10:24:42 pm
I guess he is one who is not comfortable talking about the issue, and tries to deflect.  He has signed a lot of anti-abortion legislation as governor.
41  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Iran deal on: August 20, 2015, 05:41:14 pm
Horrible deal but I'll take it.

yeah, I guess I'd call it a freedom deal compared to the alternative of not having a deal, but that's not saying much.
42  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Megathread: Congressional Vote on the Iran Deal on: August 20, 2015, 05:37:09 pm
The info coming out on these side deals regarding Iranian self-inspection may make the vote even on sustaining the veto uncomfortably close.
43  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: New Video of Planned Parenthood Delivering Live Baby and Killing For Brain Tissu on: August 20, 2015, 05:34:14 pm
I've been ignoring watching whatever these Planned Parenthood videos are for awhile, but now that I have... wow. What a bunch of morons the outraged are.

Living tissues don't require a functioning brain to move. Especially primitive living tissue.

Here's a Japanese girl eating a "live frog" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWgdLKfkxss

TIP: The frog is not alive.

That fetus is not a live baby.

Of course, people who are against planned parenthood are also vehemently ignorant of science so there's no way to convince that thing is not living. They also thought Terry Schiavo was alive when she was dead as a doornail.

You claim post-coma unresponsiveness is the same as being "dead as a doornail" while accusing others of scientific ignorance ?

I don't claim post-coma unresponsiveness being the same as being dead as a doornail. I claim Terry Schiavo, whose brain IIRC was only the third the size of a normal adult human when she was taken off support, as being dead as a doornail.

Ok, post-coma unresponsiveness with severe brain degeneration.  Still very much not the same as being dead.
44  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kasich: I would ban teachers' lounges on: August 20, 2015, 05:25:40 pm
Here is the forum this was taken from.  His point seems to be that teachers are too scared of reform, and that the conversations they have between each other and with the unions drive this.
45  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Do you support ending birthright citizenship (US)? on: August 19, 2015, 10:22:01 pm
No.  It's not a great way to assign citizenship, but it may be the least worst.
46  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: New Video of Planned Parenthood Delivering Live Baby and Killing For Brain Tissu on: August 19, 2015, 09:04:51 pm
I've been ignoring watching whatever these Planned Parenthood videos are for awhile, but now that I have... wow. What a bunch of morons the outraged are.

Living tissues don't require a functioning brain to move. Especially primitive living tissue.

Here's a Japanese girl eating a "live frog" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWgdLKfkxss

TIP: The frog is not alive.

That fetus is not a live baby.

Of course, people who are against planned parenthood are also vehemently ignorant of science so there's no way to convince that thing is not living. They also thought Terry Schiavo was alive when she was dead as a doornail.

You claim post-coma unresponsiveness is the same as being "dead as a doornail" while accusing others of scientific ignorance ?
47  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary Comes out Against Arctic Drilling on: August 19, 2015, 07:00:40 pm
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"The melting of sea ice, for example, will result in... the possibility to develop newly accessible oil and gas reserves," Clinton said during a speech in Greenland in 2011. "We seek to pursue these opportunities in a smart, sustainable way that preserves the Arctic environment and ecosystem."

What is it that we now know about the Arctic that we didn't in 2011?  (serious question)

Further evidence of and experience with climate change; it means we have to commit to leaving more fossil fuels under the ground where God left them to avoid worse outcomes.

That isn't specific to the Arctic.  Sea ice will melt just as much if that oil is found in the Indian Ocean or in Wyoming.
48  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary Comes out Against Arctic Drilling on: August 19, 2015, 01:27:06 am
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"The melting of sea ice, for example, will result in... the possibility to develop newly accessible oil and gas reserves," Clinton said during a speech in Greenland in 2011. "We seek to pursue these opportunities in a smart, sustainable way that preserves the Arctic environment and ecosystem."

What is it that we now know about the Arctic that we didn't in 2011?  (serious question)
49  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Megathread: Congressional Vote on the Iran Deal on: August 18, 2015, 03:23:21 pm

no, Lugar would support it even if he were still a Senator.
50  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: Why was the 18th amendment needed? on: August 18, 2015, 02:46:11 pm
post-New Deal, would the Supremes uphold a statute banning alcohol?    Or would the 21st amendment be a barrier to it?  would make for an interesting case.
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