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76  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: Amendment against hiding behind freedom of religion to abuse people on: February 28, 2017, 01:14:46 am
I'm not sure that sort of thing is specific to religious based programs only, sadly.
77  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Schechter v US and Wickard v Filburn on: February 27, 2017, 06:08:02 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.L.A._Schechter_Poultry_Corp._v._United_States 1935
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn 1942

Are these two Commerce Clause cases consistent by any logic?  Why did Harlan Stone and Owen Roberts join the unanimous ruling against the government in the first, and the unanimous ruling for the government in the second?
78  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Policical Tribe quiz on: February 26, 2017, 07:25:56 pm
1.Disillusioned Pessimist
2.Anti-Establishment Firebrand
3.Activist Egalitarian
4.Prudent Traditionalist
5.Ambitious Saver
79  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Bill Paxton dead at 61 on: February 26, 2017, 02:56:45 pm
Dang.  Every now and then I see him on something on TV and I think it's so cool because he brings a certain quiet energy to it that somehow makes the program. 
80  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Forum's least favorite President on: February 26, 2017, 02:44:55 pm
Wilson can't be all bad since he gave us SCJ Louis Brandeis.

The deal with Wilson is that his every decent act had to be accompanied by something awful. Yes, he appointed Brandeis, but he also appointed this fellow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Clark_McReynolds

I like them both Tongue

(While he was personally really awful in a lot ways, including to Brandeis, I appreciate his legal contributions.)
81  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Ayn Rand vs. Vladimir Lenin on: February 26, 2017, 11:59:49 am
Ayn Rand's ideology would require allowing a civil society which could oppose its fullest horrible realization. Lenin's would have no problem responding to such a thing with bloodshed and village burning.
82  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Antonio V on: February 26, 2017, 02:29:48 am
I love how all the red avatars are turning on one another.

Reds devouring each other is the key to Western history, 1900-present.

I would say c. 1790 (fittingly for the subject of the thread)
83  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Forum's least favorite President on: February 26, 2017, 02:11:37 am
Wilson can't be all bad since he gave us SCJ Louis Brandeis.
84  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Where would you rather live? Tennessee edition on: February 26, 2017, 01:50:12 am
I guess West TN because my sister and her family live there but otherwise East TN easily.
85  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Why do so many think God is all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-loving? on: February 25, 2017, 11:52:30 pm
There's the old question "Can God create a rock he cannot move?"  If he wants to make a rock of a quality that he can't move it, then yes.  And I think perhaps God does create such things, in a sense, when God acts, and creates.  God cannot speak something into both existence and never-existence. God cannot determine all the acts of a free being.

I believe God allows some freedom to his creation. And the implication of that is that God either does not know the future with certainty, or he does not act with certainty to change the course of this future on the basis of this knowledge. If he did act, then he would be changing the future that he foreknows, and this changed future would have the possibility within it of unfolding in a way that could not be foreseen. If you were to declare that God is outside of time, and so can view it all from that vantage point, that does not mean that God would see what would happen as the result of any possible change. He might in his wisdom guess what is the most likely thing to happen, but in a universe where he has made space for freedom, it would not be something that would follow of necessity.
86  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Will the witche's spell on Trump work? on: February 25, 2017, 02:48:33 pm
That's not how apostrophes work.
87  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump/USA considering joining the British Commonwealth on: February 25, 2017, 02:39:36 pm
Why does this loser suck up to us so much? He does realise all people here think he's a dick, right?

you may have just answered your own question.
88  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Ask the next poster anything on: February 25, 2017, 02:25:59 pm
Ellison.

What was the last book you've read?
been reading Plato's Republic and Louis Orlin's Life and Thought in the Ancient Near East. Last book I finished? I don't remember right now. I'm really bad about not finishing books before I start something else.


what kind of soap do you use?
89  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you say Massachusetts "Massa-choo-sits" or "Massa-choo-zits"? on: February 25, 2017, 02:19:22 pm
in between:  Mas-sa-choos-zits.
90  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Possible locations of the Garden of Eden on: February 25, 2017, 03:19:23 am
There are plenty of theories.  The one I find most plausible is given here: http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2000/PSCF3-00Hill.html  It works with almost any view of the historicity of the Bible except for Young Earth Creationism, which pretty much requires that Noah's Flood have wrought so many changes that Eden was obliterated.  Since there are plenty of other reasons to ignore the YEC hypothesis, that incompatibility with YEC doesn't bother me in the least.



The identification of the rivers presented there is pretty convincing.  The map shown in that article showing the "former extent of the Persian Gulf" would work against the idea that all four rivers met at the same location, but it works a lot better with this more accurate map showing areas that are low lying enough that they may have been underwater during this period:
http://people.rses.anu.edu.au/lambeck_k/pdf/171.pdf
Or if one is willing to believe that the story has roots that go back a few thousand years before 4000 bc, then the shoreline would have been further south and the Garden could have been under the present day Gulf.
91  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: How would you label this county? on: February 24, 2017, 11:20:03 pm
In us terms it's probably mild to extremely liberal. In world wide terms it's center right.
You do realize most of the world's population lives in countries where SSM is illegal, right?

You realize Hillary Clinton would be a far right candidate in many countries.
Name one.
Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Norway and Ireland off the top of my head.

Much of Europe would find her hawkish lean and non embrace of socialism to be to the right, in some of the more liberal countries she'd be far right

In some of those countries "the far right" isn't even on the far right.
92  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Christians break the Golden Rule when accepting Jesus as savior. on: February 24, 2017, 06:53:00 pm
This is not a good argument.  Not only penal substitution but any Christian account of the atonement in some way involves people relying for their salvation on the fact of Christ's suffering and death.
93  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: How many members of Congress will boycott Trump's speech? on: February 24, 2017, 04:03:00 pm
which speech is this?
94  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Adam Ruins Everything on: February 24, 2017, 03:54:41 pm
I like it though you could probably do a show "Gerald Ruins Adam Ruins Everything" that busts up the point-missing simplifications in each episode.
95  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of light green avatars on: February 24, 2017, 03:45:41 pm
Meh.

When they're sincere, FF

When they're not and are hacks, HP

They also objectively look terrible a lot of the time.

Your avatar has the ugliest color.

I actually happen to like the look of it much more than orange avatars and certain red and light green avatars, although almost all of the New York ones look bad for some reason. You're just not as used to brown ones since they're uncommon

I tried on an orange avatar since I am a member of a small Christian Democratic party but went back to green for now because the look just wasn't working for me.  I could go back to blue to stand for conservative in a broad sense but I don't really want to be associated with the GOP as it currently exists.
96  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Kellyanne Conway actually has more prestigious educational background than Rubio on: February 24, 2017, 03:13:43 pm
It's sexism.   If she were a man she'd be president.
97  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump/USA considering joining the British Commonwealth on: February 24, 2017, 01:05:21 am
There's pluses and minuses to it. It seems asinine and probably has some dark, if not racist, motive.

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98  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What year were you born based on your classic tv preferences on: February 23, 2017, 08:46:55 pm
1954.   Not exactly. Though I watched a lot of Nick at Nite as a kid and when I visited my grandparents house it sure felt like it could have been the Eisenhower era.

my answers:
1. Smurfs
2. picked Glee but really of those I've seen, none remotely.
3. watched Bonanza reruns.
4. I Love Lucy (sane)
5. The Avengers
6. Buffy marathon ofc
7. Dick Cavett
8. Star Trek
9. 2nd one on the 1st row
99  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which pro-Hillary site has less fair coverage of conservatives overall? on: February 23, 2017, 01:41:52 pm
Vox has an obvious bias but I don't think their coverage of conservatives is particularly unfair, they are a world away from the likes of Salon, Rolling Stone, or Teen Vogue.  This interview for example provided probably the most cogent defense of state RFRA laws published anywhere. And they give pro-lifers a platform sometimes and I haven't seen them use the term "anti-choice" like a lot of lefty sites.
100  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Political Quiz List. Are you a Quiz Whiz? on: February 23, 2017, 01:22:45 pm
https://buildquorum.com/political_spectrum
You are a Libertarian-Leaning Centrist

You are a Libertarian-Leaning Centrist, and believe in a reasonable degree of small government. You believe that the government should mainly protect individuals from coercion and violence, and you usually embrace individual responsibility over more government control. You tend to support a free market and civil liberties, but on some issues you recognize the importance of government intervention. You are governed by practical solutions to each issue individually rather than political extremes.

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