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76  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: November 2014 Special At-large Senate Election on: November 16, 2014, 12:10:54 am
AT-LARGE SENATE (to fill one vacancy)

[3] Bacon King of Oceania
The People's Party

[2] Cris of Kansas
Federalist Party

[1] Poirot of New York
Independent

[4] rpryor03 of New Jersey
National Party

[5] SomebodyWhoExists of Quebec
Labor Party

[  ] Write-in:______________________________
-__________________

[  ] None of the above
77  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Nate Silver: "PPP is basically just duplicating polling averages". on: November 15, 2014, 04:55:16 am
So, PPP is a sham. They are basically lazy, don't do any public polling and simply invent the public polling numbers based on their private polls and the prevailing consensus.


no, that's not what this means. They weight their samples and/or choose not to release what they consider to be outliers.  Read the article, it's worthwhile.

Morden, is that a graph of just PPP's polls, or all polls?  It's quite ambiguous.
78  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Why is Iowa not a red state? on: November 15, 2014, 04:50:10 am
That religion map bears a rough resemblance to the 1976 map - Methodism and Lutheranism in the Democratic areas, Republicans winning the Catholic areas and the Dutch Reformed northwest corner. (Unlike other Catholic immigrants, German Catholics have historically tended Republican, particularly in the Midwest)

however, the current political geography of Iowa is quite different, with more of an East/West and urban/rural divide
79  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Which Democrat should run against Ron Johnson? on: November 15, 2014, 04:14:56 am
I would say Feingold, but he ought to run against Clinton instead.
80  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Political Quiz List. Are you a Quiz Whiz? on: November 15, 2014, 03:12:34 am
5 Dimensional Political Compass

I am a Centrist Anarchist Non-Interventionist Humanist Moderate
Collectivism score: 0%
Authoritarianism score: -100%
Internationalism score: -17%
Tribalism score: -67%
Liberalism score: 0%

the quiz may be a bit biased toward economic Left/"Collectivist" answers - I probably ought to be "Right-leaning" rather than "Centrist" on the first dimension - but generally I like the sound of that description.
81  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Virginia on: November 15, 2014, 01:27:13 am
I wasn't saying that you yourself were an outsider to Virginia. I was speaking of your level of familiarity with your state. 

Our median income, and thus our tax contribution per capita, here may be a tad less than yours, but it doesn't stop us from having to pay additional sales and gas taxes to fund local transportation, while public transit funds from the state for here and the rest of the state combined amount to pennies on the dollar compared to the allocation for WMATA.

Try taking a look at some of the polls from the summer. You'll find at that point nearly half either have never heard of Gillespie or don't have an opinion of him, compared to single digits for Warner.  I'd be cautious about forming any conclusions regarding presidential elections from the results of a low turnout midterm, but the one thing one can most certainly not take from a well-known popular former Governor and incumbent Senator barely hanging on is any confirmation that Democrats can be confident they have 13 EVs in the bag.
82  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Democrats left in Romney States/Congressional Districts on: November 14, 2014, 05:56:44 pm
Interesting that the Republican senate majority is more or less just the Republican/Obama seats minus the Democrat/Romney seats. The good news there is that Democrats don't necessarily need to win any Romney seats to regain the majority, just to consolidate the Obama seats which should be a lot easier.

Unfortunately not, since Democrats are a lot more open minded and prone to ticket splitting than Republicans are.

See: MD-Gov and KS-Gov

This. Democrats and liberals seem to care about other things too than just the letter next to the name of a candidate. 

I think it has more to do with which party is in the White House. A number of longtime moderate Republicans lost in 2006 and 2008 (ex. Jim Leach, Chris Shays).
83  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Tom Tancredo launches "Stop Chris Christie PAC" on: November 14, 2014, 05:27:49 pm
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Who would win in a Clinton-Christie match-up?
6004 votes
Clinton for sure! She's the favorite.
Christie, he's got broader appeal.
Too soon to tell.
84  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Hello on: November 14, 2014, 03:52:26 pm
Just do keep in mind that is a very right-leaning forum. And do yourself a favor and go ahead and delete any posts you might have ever made on any separate forums devoted to prostitution enthusiasts.

Good point, lest you be cast to the wolves.  I'd go further and say that you would do well to not even hint at the idea that you find a woman attractive, or that you would ever be interested in courting one, you domineering, misogynist swine.
Isn't it funny that virgin neckbeards have embraced a pseudo-feminist culture? I guess they think it'll get them laid one day.
Pro tip: Don't join a forum and then insult and attack one of its best members as something they are clearly not while completely missing the joke.

This is a bit illogical since being a virgin neckbeard correlates positively with misogyny.

cite?
85  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: House approves Keystone Pipeline....onto the Senate on: November 14, 2014, 03:10:10 pm
I'm glad Obama believes this project needs a thorough environmental review, but what is the holdup on getting an answer from the State Dept?
86  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Virginia on: November 14, 2014, 02:53:41 pm
You must think the largely Republican voter base who live over 100 miles outside of DC (mostly in SWVA) are particularly dumb to not know who Ed Gillespie is.  I guess Republican voters are just that uninformed about who they are voting for. 

I live in Hampton Roads. Perhaps you've heard of it?  Hint: it's not near Wise County.  We don't get DC Channels here either.  But you are correct, we are all idiots for being less familiar with an unelected political operative than with a former governor of our state.

Nice way to re-frame the argument.  Have you heard of Ed Gillespie or not?  And if you haven't, do you consider yourself an informed voter?

Yes, I've known of him for quite some time. I also spend time on a political forum, much like 99% of other people.

So are you implying that your Republican friends in the state were so uninformed that they voted for someone they never heard of even though he was a national figure from the state?  I guess now I understand why the GOP is such a mess of a party.

Um, no. I responding to your claim that Ed Gillespie had 100% name recognition, and that this proved he was so familiar to voters and potential voters that it put him on even footing with Warner. And then to your humorously dismissive and misinformed attitude toward the rest of Virginia outside of NOVA.

There were some people who voted for Gillespie without any idea of who he was because of his party. That sort of thing is normal in an election. I dare say it probably describes the majority of people who voted for the Democrat in House districts in Virginia won by incumbent Republicans.

I understand that you think you know everything but if you are so convinced that Ed Gillespie didn't have such name recognition in Virginia, please cite some evidence rather than being a dismissive loudmouth.  The only thing humorous is the fact that you somehow seem to think that Gillespie's loss in an off-year election with low democrat turnout is anything but a sign that Virginia is now a lean democrat state. 

I don't need to know everything to know that there are a lot of people who are moderately informed on political issues who do not follow the careers of political operatives, given that I know some of these people. If you need corroboration just Google "Ed Gillespie name recognition"

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"I don't think anybody in Virginia knows who Ed Gillespie is," said Rep. Gerry Connolly, a Democrat representing Fairfax County. "I'll bet you if you check name recognition it's in the single digits."
http://www.nbcwashington.com/blogs/first-read-dmv/Ed-Gillespie-Announces-US-Senate-Run-in-Virginia-240546921.html

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Virginia is also a very expensive state for advertising; the price tag for a little-known challenger to catch up just on name recognition is formidable, and chipping away at substantial support much higher...With the party having been decimated in the last election, there is hardly a long line of Republicans willing to take on Warner. So Gillespie, a long-time, big player on the national scene, but a relatively new face in Virginia politics, should not have much problem securing his party's Senate nomination.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/off-to-the-races/ed-gillespie-s-senate-bid-isn-t-as-crazy-as-it-seems-20140120

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Warner’s underperforming re-election bid in a state where he had consistently polled as the most popular politician has sparked a debate about his political pull as a potential national candidate in 2016...With little financial support from outside Virginia, no experience in running for elected office and no name recognition outside the Capital Beltway, the former Republican National Committee chairman nearly knocked off a senator and former governor, whom former Rep. Thomas M. Davis III calls “the strongest elk in the herd.”
http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/state-regional/close-senate-race-could-have-aftershocks-in-virginia-politics/article_ba100c6c-27ee-57d6-9dd1-29740757d0fe.html?mode=jqm

Given where I live I do indeed find humorous the idea that the only part of the state outside of a 100 mile radius of DC is Southwest Virginia, as it seems like a satirical reflection of both the political pull of the beltway to the detriment of the rest of the state, and a stereotypical outsider's political view of the "new" Virginia. 
87  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama saves net neutrality, orders broadband be classified as vital service on: November 13, 2014, 02:55:43 pm
If bandwidth is not being depleted and is some unlimited resource, then why has there been all this controversy over how to handle spectrum reallocation?  Why have they been trying to get broadcasters to lessen their use of the spectrum?

How does net neutrality "deplete" more of the capacity on the internet than a hypothetical system that allowed certain traffic to have priority?

I'm not clear on the technical aspects of this, but I think the basic principle here would be that with a limited amount of bandwidth available, pricing is a method of managing demand. If providers of high bandwidth content want it to get through efficiently, they can pay more for that. On the one hand a provider like Netflix would be able to provide more reliable service, but with an increased cost. This increased cost could spur the content provider to be more efficient in its use of bandwidth, or it might mean higher cost for the consumer, which would redirect entertainment to other formats, freeing up that bandwidth for other activities.

I realize there are all sorts of reasons why this might not work out, but to get rid of any sort of congestion pricing-type mechanism, as net neutrality would seem to imply, how is the rationing of a limited amount of bandwidth supposed to occur under net neutrality?

I understand what you're saying, but that really a situation of a solution in search of a problem.

We have these open internet rules that have served us very well over the years.  Lycos and Yahoo couldn't use their market power to crush Google.  Myspace couldn't crush Facebook by paying off the ISPs.  The openness on the public internet also allows new technologies to spring up because data is treated like data.  You didn't need to reprogram the internet whenever a new application was invented or pay some ridiculous up front fee to experiment in a new business.  That's all important to protect for the good of the consumers.  Also, remember that consumers largely have little to no choice over which ISP they use as most areas have at most 2 broadband services.

And, your response is, but what about poor Netflix and Google?  Well, they don't need a fast lane on the public internet because they can use peering agreements with ISPs.  Google has servers inside your ISP that allows Youtube to run faster.  And, by the way, Netflix and Google seem to be happy with this Net Neutrality decision.  They're more worried about ISPs using their monopoly position in an anti-competitive way than they are worried about lack of bandwidth on the public internet. 

I have no idea what post you were reading that made you think my concern is for "poor Netflix and Google."  It clearly wasn't one of mine.  My concern is having an internet with a capacity that allows it to be free from congestion. I don't know what you said here has to do with that. And how do the peering and special servers inside ISPs not run afoul of the idea of net neutrality?

As far as I can tell, the solution in search of a problem here is net neutrality. Have ISPs been crushing upstart content providers?  If they ever do, and people can't get access to a wide range of content due to deliberate blocking by the ISP, then there will be a demand for more open ISP.  If under such circumstances the ISPs still maintain a monopoly, then it is the monopoly that is the problem, not the lack of net neutrality.
88  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Sullivan Officially Wins on: November 13, 2014, 02:23:32 pm
At this point, would Dems be better off running against Young or having Young retire and running for an open seat? Young barely beating 50% in a year where the majority of the GOP Caucus got over 60% in their races is notable.

Young did better than the other Alaska statewide Republicans. Begich would have a much better chance if its an open seat.
89  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Virginia on: November 13, 2014, 12:52:55 am
You must think the largely Republican voter base who live over 100 miles outside of DC (mostly in SWVA) are particularly dumb to not know who Ed Gillespie is.  I guess Republican voters are just that uninformed about who they are voting for. 

I live in Hampton Roads. Perhaps you've heard of it?  Hint: it's not near Wise County.  We don't get DC Channels here either.  But you are correct, we are all idiots for being less familiar with an unelected political operative than with a former governor of our state.

Nice way to re-frame the argument.  Have you heard of Ed Gillespie or not?  And if you haven't, do you consider yourself an informed voter?

Yes, I've known of him for quite some time. I also spend time on a political forum, much like 99% of other people.

So are you implying that your Republican friends in the state were so uninformed that they voted for someone they never heard of even though he was a national figure from the state?  I guess now I understand why the GOP is such a mess of a party.

Um, no. I responding to your claim that Ed Gillespie had 100% name recognition, and that this proved he was so familiar to voters and potential voters that it put him on even footing with Warner. And then to your humorously dismissive and misinformed attitude toward the rest of Virginia outside of NOVA.

There were some people who voted for Gillespie without any idea of who he was because of his party. That sort of thing is normal in an election. I dare say it probably describes the majority of people who voted for the Democrat in House districts in Virginia won by incumbent Republicans.
90  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama saves net neutrality, orders broadband be classified as vital service on: November 13, 2014, 12:13:55 am
If bandwidth is not being depleted and is some unlimited resource, then why has there been all this controversy over how to handle spectrum reallocation?  Why have they been trying to get broadcasters to lessen their use of the spectrum?

How does net neutrality "deplete" more of the capacity on the internet than a hypothetical system that allowed certain traffic to have priority?

I'm not clear on the technical aspects of this, but I think the basic principle here would be that with a limited amount of bandwidth available, pricing is a method of managing demand. If providers of high bandwidth content want it to get through efficiently, they can pay more for that. On the one hand a provider like Netflix would be able to provide more reliable service, but with an increased cost. This increased cost could spur the content provider to be more efficient in its use of bandwidth, or it might mean higher cost for the consumer, which would redirect entertainment to other formats, freeing up that bandwidth for other activities.

I realize there are all sorts of reasons why this might not work out, but to get rid of any sort of congestion pricing-type mechanism, as net neutrality would seem to imply, how is the rationing of a limited amount of bandwidth supposed to occur under net neutrality?
91  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas posters from sub-Saharan Africa? on: November 12, 2014, 02:58:05 pm
A little off topic, but does that guy from China live in China? If so, how can he even get onto the Atlas? Internet censorship and all.

China doesn't really censor English language sites that much since no one can read it anyway. Tongue

I went on Atlas repeatedly when I was in China without any trouble.

If Atlas isn't censored in China, we aren't doing it right.
92  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of this website on: November 12, 2014, 02:54:54 pm
I'm really scared this isn't a joke.
93  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Minnesota state leg: 2002-2006 on: November 12, 2014, 02:21:54 pm
I can't see the 2004 and 2006 maps.

Here you go. Blue spots are Scott and Carver County.



so a very Democratic year then Tongue
94  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Virginia on: November 12, 2014, 01:49:27 pm
You must think the largely Republican voter base who live over 100 miles outside of DC (mostly in SWVA) are particularly dumb to not know who Ed Gillespie is.  I guess Republican voters are just that uninformed about who they are voting for. 

I live in Hampton Roads. Perhaps you've heard of it?  Hint: it's not near Wise County.  We don't get DC Channels here either.  But you are correct, we are all idiots for being less familiar with an unelected political operative than with a former governor of our state.

Nice way to re-frame the argument.  Have you heard of Ed Gillespie or not?  And if you haven't, do you consider yourself an informed voter?

Yes, I've known of him for quite some time. I also spend time on a political forum, much like 99% of other people.
95  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Warren vs Walker on: November 11, 2014, 04:14:18 pm
Walker has the advantage here and it's significant, but not the makings of a landslide.  We could expect something like this generally, depending on VP candidates:   295 (50%) - 243 (47%)
96  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - Lowborn Egoism Herrings on: November 11, 2014, 10:38:55 am
So I witnessed another burglary last night.

What's wrong with your area? Normal people never witness a burglary. The most troubling events in my lower-middle-class neighboorhood (classy mobile homes) were a suicide and, a few weeks ago, a cat kidnapping.

A cat kidnapping?  That's just sick.  As someone who's had their house burglarized, I'd say a cat kidnapping is worse.
97  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How old is outofbox6? on: November 11, 2014, 02:43:30 am
Honestly, it's not my place at all.

Why even say anything at all?

Because one can say they have information without having to reveal it.

I have secret information about outofbox6 too. I can't tell anyone - It's top secret. Big hush hush. I'm not saying he's a CIA operative, but I'm not saying he's not either.
98  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: The Voting Records of Famous People on: November 11, 2014, 02:34:28 am
Seems about right, although I believe that Graham endorsed Ford in '76.

He didn't publicly endorse Ford, but he had a better relationship with Ford than with Carter.  Also he corresponded with Ike about the presidency before he ran so he almost certainly voted for Ike in 1952.  Aside from FDR, Truman, and LBJ he probably voted Republican in all presidential elections - he certainly wouldn't be the only Democrat from the South to do so.
99  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Which new senator is your favorite? on: November 11, 2014, 01:57:59 am
maybe someone else will stand out later, but Capito for now I guess.  this crop seems pretty meh.
100  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama saves net neutrality, orders broadband be classified as vital service on: November 11, 2014, 01:36:08 am
If bandwidth is not being depleted and is some unlimited resource, then why has there been all this controversy over how to handle spectrum reallocation?  Why have they been trying to get broadcasters to lessen their use of the spectrum?
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