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76  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Duck Dynasty viewerships strongly correlate with votes for Donald Trump on: December 29, 2016, 12:46:20 am
What's with Once Upon a Time being so popular with Mormons?

Vampire Diaries, Supernatural, So You Think You Can Dance, AFHV, Mythbusters, and The Tonight Show also all do well with Mormons. SYTYCD and AFHV are no-brainers for Mormon support, but it appears Mormons have a thing for fairy tales/fantasy/supernatural type shows that aren't "too edgy" for them like Game of Thrones or The Walking Dead.

http://kutv.com/news/local/why-do-mormons-really-love-star-wars-and-science-fiction-so-much

Also not surprised Mormons like nice guy Jimmy Fallon, esp if they're watching him instead of edgy Colbert or sinful Kimmel.

Basically this election was a proxy match between Modern Family and Duck Dynasty.
Actually it was Family Guy vs Duck Dynasty

due to Modern Family being very much a white person show.


I ain't White and I love the show.

More precisely: Modern Family has a clear negative correlation with areas with black and Am Indian majorities, and a clear positive correlation with areas with a lot of white Democrats, similar to The Daily Show.  Family Guy on the other hand has a positive correlation with both.
77  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who do you think won the illiterate vote? on: December 29, 2016, 12:10:28 am
This is very interesting to me.

Liberals have wanted to enlarge the voting pool with big dumb-dumbs who cannot show up at the right precinct, cannot procure a photo ID given years of time, and cannot even figure out registration deadlines given years of notice....At least that's what they argue in court.

Do you think these people are the sharpest knives in the drawer? Lol..

States Trump won: West Virginia, Mississippi, Alabama.

States Clinton won: Connecticut, Massachusetts, Washington.

States with high % of blacks: MS, LA, GA

therefore Trump won black voters.
78  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Duck Dynasty viewerships strongly correlate with votes for Donald Trump on: December 27, 2016, 10:23:52 pm
What's with Once Upon a Time being so popular with Mormons?

Vampire Diaries, Supernatural, So You Think You Can Dance, AFHV, Mythbusters, and The Tonight Show also all do well with Mormons. SYTYCD and AFHV are no-brainers for Mormon support, but it appears Mormons have a thing for fairy tales/fantasy/supernatural type shows that aren't "too edgy" for them like Game of Thrones or The Walking Dead.

http://kutv.com/news/local/why-do-mormons-really-love-star-wars-and-science-fiction-so-much

Also not surprised Mormons like nice guy Jimmy Fallon, esp if they're watching him instead of edgy Colbert or sinful Kimmel.

Basically this election was a proxy match between Modern Family and Duck Dynasty.
Actually it was Family Guy vs Duck Dynasty

due to Modern Family being very much a white person show.
79  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who won the IQ under 80 vote? on: December 27, 2016, 06:01:41 pm
So the point of this very good thread is to make clear that dumb people vote Republican and very intelligent people vote Democratic, even though there is zero evidence for Wulfric's numbers?

Didn't you see?   Wulfric has high IQ, therefore he does not need evidence or logic.

Well, this isn't a easy question because normal people generally don't know their IQ. Most people with an IQ lower than 80 probably didn't voted... But, I think Trump won them.

Just remembering, IQ doesn't measure education and intelligence.

It might not measure those things specifically but there is a correlation.

Just like there is a correlation between reading your posts and facepalming.
80  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The most Republican state in the Southeast... on: December 26, 2016, 08:10:38 pm
Most people can spell Alabama

Except the natives. And West Virginians.
We will never be able to live this stereotype down huh? Roll Eyes

Not until the ability of Alabamans and neighboring states (except Georgians) to calculate without using their fingers reaches double digits.

I'm always impressed by those who can use their fingers to calculate double digits tbh.
81  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who won the IQ under 80 vote? on: December 26, 2016, 07:52:41 pm
People with IQ's below 80 were most likely majority non-voters, but would be disproportionately black or hispanic if one believes the available statistics on such things *Note this does not mean iq or intelligence is determined by race, or that a lower iq distribution among a racial or ethnic group means lower intelligence in a more general sense*   Less formal education, and perhaps a bit older and more rural. 

but sane people generally either don't know or do not care about their iq scores, and so it's not really an identifiable group.
82  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is Taiwan part of China? on: December 26, 2016, 06:45:21 pm
I don't care if the PRC storms across the sea and literally makes the island disappear.

Huh
Why would you be taipeing such a thing?
83  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of left-wingers who want to see Pence replace Trump ASAP on: December 25, 2016, 05:28:51 pm
I sincerely hope that none of them are LGBT+...

Odd forbid gays care about other issues.
84  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: If Montana gets another House seat, shoud there be one or two districts? on: December 24, 2016, 03:49:54 am
Apparently only Hawaii and New Mexico are allowed multimember congressional districts.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/90-1967/h48

And since both states have significant minority populations, the VRA could still force them to have single member districts (or 2-1 for NM).
It looks like this law contradicts the Founding Fathers' original intent. Multimember districts make sense in densely packed urban areas where two single neighboring districts would be very tiny. In these urban areas, multimember districts can reduce disenfranchisement of minority voters. Multimember districts would also be less partisan by not being so geographically small. How would an originalist view this 1967 law?

http://archive.fairvote.org/library/history/flores/district.htm

It's certainly not prohibited by the Constitution to have multimember districts, and the founding generation might have found it odd to prohibit it, but Art 1, Sec 4:1 tends to imply that Congress can choose to do so.
85  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Reports of Jewish family forced to flee their homes after Breitbart article on: December 24, 2016, 03:40:35 am
But no, Obama and the Bernie bros are the real antisemites because they don't bow to Israel.

Antisemitism in the United States, and around the world, is solely a disease of the right and of Islamic extremists.

Just because there's dumb sh**t people say about Obama hating Israel doesn't mean actual left-wing antisemitism isn't a real thing.
86  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: favorite advent/christmas hymn? on: December 24, 2016, 02:41:30 am

That's beautiful. Wasn't familiar with it before. Thanks.

I found another German one:
Maria durch ein dorwald - Mary walks among the thorns.

I've heard it before, but this rendition, in this place... wow. 
I've got to visit Freiburg and go there some day.

Speaking of German songs about thorns and roses, Lo, How a Rose E'er Blooming is a favorite. 

I like O Come O Come Emmanuel a lot. Heard a great version in the indie cinema last week - a guy softly singing then a girl and then sort of a klezmer interlude, wish I could find it.  But here's another rendition that's pretty awesome in it's own way.
87  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Name something you likely disagree with the preceding poster on on: December 22, 2016, 07:31:09 pm
trump.

I suspect the difference in this area is one of nuance.

*skip*
88  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: More hawkish - Clinton or Trump? on: December 22, 2016, 07:26:22 pm
They are both hawkish in such different ways it makes it hard to compare. Clinton, unlike Trump, is an internationalist, which may encourages greater intervention - particularly 'humanitarian' and relating to commitments to allies - but also places limits on this intervention, at least in theory.
89  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: If Montana gets another House seat, shoud there be one or two districts? on: December 22, 2016, 07:05:39 pm
2nd district, since it gives each member a closer responsibility to a more local area.
90  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Name something you likely disagree with the preceding poster on on: December 22, 2016, 07:00:15 pm
I am a devotee of the cult of the fetus - especially during Advent.
91  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Study argues that Trump did worse than Romney among latinos on: December 22, 2016, 06:38:25 pm
This is some fascinating analysis, but the premise this disproves something is a bit odd, simply because this is just about FL, and the exit polls for FL did in fact have Trump doing slightly worse there than Romney did (35% v 39%).  And the difference between 67% (the study) and 62% (the exit poll) is not the far outside of the statistical margin of error for the Latino subsample (which by rough calculation from a 4k exit poll total sample is about 3.5%).  If someone said that Clinton won 65% of Latinos and Trump won 32%, I don't think you could say that's inconsistent with either study. The geographic analysis is more detailed than the exit poll, but there's bound to be some error there just based on the analytic assumptions that have to be made.

It's very interesting anyway for the graphs breaking out the largely Cuban Miami-Dade population from Latinos elsewhere in the state. Trump doing worse than Romney among Cubans can be seen just from a glance at the swing map, but this study also concludes that Trump and Clinton were pretty much tied among Cuban population. And the support for Trump among Latinos elsewhere in the state was at tiny, Afr Am levels, though with a large 3rd party presence. Which just shows how much variation the term "Latino" hides in terms of voting patterns across different groups and locations.
92  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Institute of Funny Partial Thread Titles You've Seen on Atlas on: December 21, 2016, 06:12:10 pm
Re: WaPo: Obama bans oil...

Sorry, you have to cook with applesauce.
93  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Canadian barista fired because grad students don't understand humor on: December 21, 2016, 03:17:57 pm
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A statement from the university said that “Given the importance that Laurier places on being an inclusive, welcoming and respectful community,” it supports the GSA’s decision.

Yeah, a real welcoming and respectful way to treat someone serving your community!

How out of touch can one get?
94  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Worst Poster of 2016 Nominations? on: December 21, 2016, 02:51:48 pm
95  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Inauguration Protests on: December 21, 2016, 02:48:57 pm
Not unless you have some mad puppetry skills you need to show off.
96  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Liberty Party vs Free Soil Party on: December 21, 2016, 02:37:36 pm
Liberty was a very religious party who believed that slavery was an sin that must be ended asap (itself a tactical split from William Garrison's radical AASS), while Free Soil was a bit more cynical/tactical, mainly opposing the expansion of slavery in the west rather than wishing to ban slavery immediately.
Theocracy is bad, and Liberty nominated a former slaveholder twice. Free Soil!

They weren't theocrats, and who cares if they nominated a former slaveholder, espeically in the context of the 19th century, especially if you want to compare Van Buren's former record on issues related to slavery.

But Liberty Party did support alcohol prohibition in their later years, and the more incrementalist, big tent approach of Free Soil made sense for its time.
97  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays? on: December 21, 2016, 02:02:55 pm


happy news! most americans are normal beings who don't give a sh[inks]

interesting that non-Christians don't like "Happy Holidays" any more than "Merry Christmas."
98  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Jackie Evancho, young acclaimed singer, to sing at Trump inauguration on: December 20, 2016, 07:11:18 pm
Can anyone point me to this supposed lgbt conversion legislation Pence supported?
Running for congress he wanted to take all HIV funding and funnel it into conversion "therapy"
What he really said is this:
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Congress should support the reauthorization of the Ryan White Care Act only after completion of an audit to ensure that federal dollars were no longer being given to organizations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus. Resources should be directed toward those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior.
Doesn't sound like all funding to me (wouldn't apply to state funds to help people pay for drugs, for example), and there's a world of difference between assisting people in changing their behavior and changing their sexual attraction.

What are you, his lawyer?

Sometimes I get tired of people repeating lies that snowball into hysteria, suspicion, fear, panic, division, etc.
99  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey shot on: December 20, 2016, 01:40:35 am
Uh, well, what goes around comes around, I guess.

I'm too apathetic to care, actually.
Yes, hopefully Aleppo will literally not exist on the map by the end of the week.

This is some rhetorical point you are making maybe?  Hopefully?
Mostly. Of course, I have emphathy for the people there. But the events today show that the "moderate rebels" can't be trusted and need to be crushed before they ultimately become the ISIS of the 2020s.

Now, this shooter isn't aligned with ISIS or the rebels from what I've heard. He's actually connected to the elements who launched the coup this summer. This shooting was an attempt to destabilize the government of Turkey and Russia's noble efforts to bring Syria to piece. So if Assad turning Aleppo into rubble is necessary to bring the "rebels" to heel once and for all, then so be it.

If anything, the United States and the west ought to go to Assad and personally apologize for what we've done to Syria and Iraq in the last decades and then make it up to him by dropping a blank check into his lap until ISIS and the rebels are mopped up once and for all. We might as well try and draw him out of Russia and Iran's orbit while we're at it. That is a win-win-win.

Of course, we won't. Even under President Trump. Sad!

Pieces, more like.  Bringing peace might have involved leaning on Assad to step down and put someone in who wasn't indiscriminately shelling his own cities and people. The sometimes- maybe-more-moderate rebels are mostly defeated now anyway, so you have your wish, now it's mostly just Al-Qaeda and ISIS who still have any power left against Assad. So the ISIS of 2020 is going to come probably from people witnessing the devastation now taking place. It doesn't take a genocidal religious extremist to want to kill someone from a regime involved in destroying a people, but such a situation is a good recruiting tool for those extremists.
100  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Russian Ambassador to Turkey shot on: December 19, 2016, 09:57:31 pm
Uh, well, what goes around comes around, I guess.

I'm too apathetic to care, actually.
Yes, hopefully Aleppo will literally not exist on the map by the end of the week.

This is some rhetorical point you are making maybe?  Hopefully?
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