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76  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Mississippi 2014 discussion thread on: July 10, 2014, 11:03:47 am

That's pretty sad. The remark he made to Pryor might hint at the beginning stages of Alzheimer's.

He and Pryor's father did get elected to the Senate in the same year.
77  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: If Romney had been the nominee and won in 2008, would we have the ACA? on: July 10, 2014, 10:51:56 am
Right, I'm sure seniors won't mind at all when their prescription drug benefit and medicare advantage plans are taken away. There's a surefire election winner for the Democrats. 

Less coverage is not a consequence of spending less money, unless you don't know what the hell you are doing.

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78  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Sanity in Foreign Policy Amendment (At Final Vote) on: July 10, 2014, 10:40:52 am
Is it possible to amend this and then attempt an override?
79  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Windjammer-Yankee Dean Reform OSPR Amendment (Final vote) on: July 10, 2014, 09:47:27 am
Aye
80  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation hearing: Napoleon for GM (Voting) on: July 10, 2014, 09:46:27 am
I would have liked to see Simfan given more time as GM, but I do believe Napoleon is a great choice for the position.

AYE
81  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Constitutional Convention Clarification (Not Voting, Debating.) on: July 10, 2014, 09:34:48 am
if that is the final text, let's have it formatted as such so that it is clear what is being changed from the current constitution:

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Article VII Section 2 of the Third Atlasian Constitution is hereby amended to read:

1. Upon application of the citizens of a majority of the Regions a majority of citizens in a majority of the Regions, the President, with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall call a Constitutional Convention to amend or replace this Constitution. The Convention shall be constituted under regulations determined by the Senate. Such amendments or the replacement proposed by the Convention shall become operative when ratified by two-thirds of the Convention and the citizens of three-quarters of the Regions, in a public poll administered by the Governor or other officer as Regional Law may provide. All public polls mandated under this section shall be via public post and shall last for exactly one week.

2. The phrase “a majority of citizens” refers to the number of signatures needed from the citizens of an individual Region and shall be defined as a majority of the citizens of a Region and shall not be construed to refer to a majority of citizens nationwide, nor a majority of voting citizens of a Region.

3. “A majority of regions” shall be defined as a majority of the Regions of the Republic of Atlasia.

82  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Constitutional Convention Clarification (Not Voting, Debating.) on: July 10, 2014, 09:29:18 am
sorry, somehow I didn't realize I hadn't checked this thread in a while.

is this the current text?

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Article VII Section 2 of the Third Atlasian Constitution is hereby amended to read:

1. Upon application of a majority of citizens in a majority of the Regions, the President, with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall call a Constitutional Convention to amend or replace this Constitution. The Convention shall be constituted under regulations determined by the Senate. Such amendments or the replacement proposed by the Convention shall become operative when ratified by two-thirds of the Convention and the citizens of three-quarters of the Regions, in a public poll administered by the Governor or other officer as Regional Law may provide. All public polls mandated under this section shall be via public post and shall last for exactly one week.

2. The phrase “a majority of citizens” refers to the number of signatures needed from the citizens of an individual Region and shall be defined as a majority of the citizens of a Region and shall not be construed to refer to a majority of citizens nationwide, nor a majority of voting citizens of a Region.

3. “A majority of regions” shall be defined as a majority of the Regions of the Republic of Atlasia.

83  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation hearing: HagridoftheDeep for Secretary of Internal Affairs on: July 10, 2014, 09:19:45 am
Thank you Hagrid for that clarification, it addresses my concerns.

I support the nominee.
84  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Public Fuel and Power Act of 2014 on: July 10, 2014, 09:17:57 am
Well if it counts as anything I do like the composition of the board of and such for administering it.

I would prefer a competative model, with the gov't owning a fully up-to-date smart grid as a sort of exchange whereby local co-ops, private firms and such can then compete with each other putting a certain amount in at one end and then selling that same amount at the other, like of like the way a share oil pipeline works.  

I think that's not too far off from what we have now:
http://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Smart_Grid_Electrical_Distribution_Act
85  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation hearing: HagridoftheDeep for Secretary of Internal Affairs on: July 09, 2014, 01:44:41 pm
I'm concerned about this idea of SoIA issuing directives to individuals that are not made public. There needs to be accountability between the branches and to the public.  What sort of directives do you mean?
86  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Demilitarization Act of 2014 (Redraft at Vote) on: July 09, 2014, 01:38:33 pm
Aye
87  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of The Reformation Party on: July 09, 2014, 12:56:39 am
Quote from: Party Platform

1.  It is the duty of all men and institutions of men, including civil governments at every level and for every nation, tribe and tongue, to acknowledge the Biblical doctrines accurately summarized in the original Westminster Standards, and to suppress heresy, idolatry, and every other enemy of sound doctrine, appropriate to their station and calling.  This includes violations of both the first and second tables of the Ten Commandments.

2. It is the duty of civil governments at every level and in every nation to recognize and protect that church which adheres to the Biblical doctrines accurately summarized in the original Westminster Standards, and to be a nursing mother to that church.  And only male communicant members of that church should be allowed to vote or hold public office in civil government.

3.  It is our duty not to enter into unlawful oaths and unlawful confederacies with heretics and infidels for purposes of political expediency.

Short and to the point, with some great evocative imagery.
88  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: If Romney had been the nominee and won in 2008, would we have the ACA? on: July 09, 2014, 12:33:33 am
Right, I'm sure seniors won't mind at all when their prescription drug benefit and medicare advantage plans are taken away. There's a surefire election winner for the Democrats. 
89  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: I think there is a candidate everyone is forgetting on: July 08, 2014, 10:37:22 pm
must be Jokowi.
90  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Are people from Spain and Portugal "white"? on: July 08, 2014, 10:33:06 pm
Some of them are. Others are olive or saffron.
91  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: If Romney had been the nominee and won in 2008, would we have the ACA? on: July 08, 2014, 10:26:33 pm
Yes, he would have tried at least. Until 2009 he considered Romneycare to be his greatest and proudest achievement.

No way.  No Republican would try to fix the healthcare system, it's too difficult.  Romneycare was a creature of having huge Democratic majorities to push everything through.

And, why would Republicans even care about healthcare?

To stop it from being an issue that benefit the Democrats if nothing else.  It's not like there weren't some major healthcare legislation under W.

You mean the Give money to insurance and pharmaceutical companies and Win Florida in 2004 Act of 2003?  Republicans might want to rewrite our laws to be more favorable to insurance and pharmaceuticals; they're not going to be interested in improving healthcare in this country.

If the only beneficiaries were insurance and pharmaceutical companies why have Democrats never attempted a full repeal? Surely there's no reason to worry about the senior vote from such a thing?
92  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: So You Think You Can Moderate? - Survivor - Round 5 on: July 08, 2014, 10:09:48 pm
Gully
93  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Bicameral Birthing Amendment of 2014 (Debating) on: July 08, 2014, 09:53:46 pm
I'm ok with balance, but I just think party lists in general are a bad idea.
What is an open party list exactly? Anything that entails simply voting for a party over a person sounds like a bad idea to me.

An open party list involves voting for a party, but you can at the same time vote a preference of one party member over another.
94  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: who would you prefer to have won? on: July 08, 2014, 03:49:19 pm
TR because Wilson was awful, and the Progressive party would have become some sort of a political force. Wouldn't have had WW1 happen as it did, no sedition acts and no federal reserve, less racism too.

TR was an extremely racist war-mongerer who would've very likely passed an even harsher version of the sedition acts had he been President Tongue

TR while having some awful racist aspects was at least anti segregation and Jim Crow.  He criticized Wilson's sedition acts for going after the wrong people, so maybe his policy would have been more narrow - on the other hand if he was in office his attitude would likely have been different.  And it is true WW1 would not have happened as it did - the US would have entered much sooner, if TR had his way.

my answer to this question is Hughes of course.

On the other hand, TR frequently called for the mass-murder of all native-Americans Tongue

It is certainly the case that those who are awful racists toward one group have often not been the same people as those who are awful racists toward another group.
95  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Sweet Sixteen Act of 2014 (Debating) on: July 08, 2014, 03:45:57 pm
We already have the vote for those 13 and older do we not? Tongue

The Senate has passed a number of restrictions and protections that include those in the 16-17 yr age, so we will need to see how this affects those.
96  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: who would you prefer to have won? on: July 08, 2014, 03:39:03 pm
TR because Wilson was awful, and the Progressive party would have become some sort of a political force. Wouldn't have had WW1 happen as it did, no sedition acts and no federal reserve, less racism too.

TR was an extremely racist war-mongerer who would've very likely passed an even harsher version of the sedition acts had he been President Tongue

TR while having some awful racist aspects was at least anti segregation and Jim Crow.  He criticized Wilson's sedition acts for going after the wrong people, so maybe his policy would have been more narrow - on the other hand if he was in office his attitude would likely have been different.  And it is true WW1 would not have happened as it did - the US would have entered much sooner, if TR had his way.

my answer to this question is Hughes of course.
97  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Who will win in Colorado? on: July 08, 2014, 03:24:02 pm
Udall probably has the edge, but I voted Gardner as it is extremely close and the Dem strategy of muh abortion is a pretty poor one IMO.  Colorado is fiscally conservative enough that the GOP could very well win it. 

I didn't realize the Udall campaign was going that route. That's disappointing.
98  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Bacon King Institute of Comedy on: July 08, 2014, 03:00:43 pm
I don't think you guys understand this thread at all.  You've been searching for a candidate that everyone is forgetting, but you forgot to look inside yourself.  Every day that you get up in the morning, get dressed, say goodbye to your loved ones, and head off to school or work, that is the part of you that is a candidate for the presidency.  When you ace that test or get that promotion, that's when you look inside of yourself and see a leader of the free world.  When you say to your romantic partner "The state of our Union is strong!", that's you giving an address before both houses of Congress.  And when you bump into someone on the subway and say "pardon me", that is the part of you that grants clemency to Caspar Weinberger and Marc Rich.

And here you guys were guessing names like Kathleen Sebelius and Charlie Crist.  I hope you all feel embarrassed now.

99  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Barack Obama is the best president since... (2014 edition) on: July 08, 2014, 02:49:38 pm
I will be generous to Obama and say GHWB.
100  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: 62nd Election of the PPT on: July 08, 2014, 02:42:55 pm


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