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76  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: A Lesbian Texan is Being Held at a Gay Conversion Camp Against Her Will on: June 10, 2016, 12:55:42 pm
I now see that she is released - thank goodness. The situation perhaps not as bad as initially reported but seriously, what disastrous, unfit parents

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/johnwright/christian_boarding_school_denies_it_practices_ex_gay_therapy_says_jeremy_jordan_s_cousin_no_longer_there

Can we please not call people "unfit parents" without solid evidence?
77  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Kasich signs medical marijuana bill. on: June 10, 2016, 12:52:00 pm
very glad he did this.  It's not perfect but it's a start.
78  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: A Lesbian Texan is Being Held at a Gay Conversion Camp Against Her Will on: June 09, 2016, 11:47:01 pm
The parents are claiming she was sent there for her depression and suicidal feelings.  The place in question does not advertise itself as a place that does gay conversion or whatever.  It is hard to know what the truth is here as it is the claim of one part of the family against the other.
79  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama endorses Social Security expansion on: June 08, 2016, 03:24:50 pm
There seems to be this assumption that "the rich" have enough income to tax away to finance just about everything that might be desirable. The dirty little secret is that folks making from 125K to 300K will have to pony up more in tax payments - substantially more - to make all these dreams come true.

The real "dirty little secret", Torie, is that individuals earning $125-$300k/year, not withstanding the absence of a chauffer or butler in their households, are rich. And un-mistakenly so.

Well, that is a subjective thing (Dems tend to be careful in categorizing "the rich" to use a number north of 200K to 300K since so many of their voters seem to be making 125K to 300K), and in any event, making 150K in Texarkana is very different when it comes to lifestyle, than making 150K in Manhattan.

as it is if you are putting two kids through college and taking care of elderly/sick family members.
80  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What's the deal with South Dakota's Democratic primary county map? on: June 08, 2016, 03:14:37 pm
Looking at the map, it's obvious to see a pretty defined line between a Clinton-dominated east and the Sanders-dominated west. Why is that? Could it be because of the time zone, or Native American population? Are eastern and western South Dakota really that different?

East of the Missouri River is known as the "Prairie Pothole Region" and has high crop yields.  To the West of the River, the economy is driven more by ranching, though why Bernie would do better out of that I'm not sure.  The West also has a large Native American population and more poverty. 
81  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: #NeverTrump GOP endorsements (Sasse,Whitman,Romney,Baker, Beck,Kristol,Ridge...) on: June 08, 2016, 02:37:31 pm
https://twitter.com/capitolwatch/status/740621673402142720

Former Congressman Chris Shays says he's not voting for Trump "under any circumstance. I'm not drinking the Kool Aid."


#UnsurprisingNewsOfTheDay
82  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Poll: Do you agree that Trump's judge comments are "textbook" racism ? on: June 08, 2016, 02:26:13 pm
It's not a textbook definition of racism, but it is arguably racist.  Very odd that option isn't in the poll.   

Here's the best analogy I can come up with:  If a radical nationalist in Mexico who wanted to keep out the Anglos pointed to the fact that the parents of a highly respected judge were white Americans as an explanation for he was allegedly not being treated fairly, I wonder what the response would be or should be.   
83  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sanders spokesperson on fox just said they are still vying for contested conven on: June 07, 2016, 10:33:28 pm
I misread that as "contested coven."
84  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Republican Grand Finale Tuesday results thread (1st polls close @8pm ET) on: June 07, 2016, 10:31:32 pm
Kasich's doing much better in SD than I expected. Might have been competitive there in a contested election.

Indeed, he's doing better there than he did in WI.
85  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sen. Flake (R-AZ) supports unbinding delegates at convention to vote down TRUMP on: June 07, 2016, 03:33:09 pm
Wulfric, there is a difference between "supports" and "suggests."  Flake did the latter.  He is saying this is a real possibility, not necessarily that he supports it, though it's very possible he does.
86  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Sam Spade Memorial Good Post Gallery on: June 07, 2016, 03:17:08 pm
I most likely agree with Nathan as usual, but I wasn't here for that, and Atlasia always has ridiculously stupid tensions going on related to that silliness.

Yes, CC's views are completely absurd, but bullying a teenager over them with such extreme language is way too far. I hate a lot of what he stands for. Still, this forum could certainly use an injection of love pretty soon because I'm getting really sick of it this election season. Everything is good and evil - no trying to correct - just vicious character attacks. Every time I start coming on, I get more and more depressed reading this complete disregard for others - I hate to direct this to you because you are the least of my concerns, but seriously, let's start making a conscious effort to stop with the baseless name calling attacks. I'm not innocent either - I get swept up in the mob mentality, but how many times do you have to bump this thread?
87  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: If you could split Presidential and VP vote since 1900... on: June 07, 2016, 03:11:30 pm
1912: Taft/Marshall
1932: Hoover/Garner
1948:  Dewey/Smith
1976:  McCarthy/Dole
2004:  Bush/Campagna
2008:  McCain/Biden
88  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What party does my dad fit into? on: June 07, 2016, 12:45:12 pm
how does he feel about Trump?
89  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Taking a break on: June 07, 2016, 11:28:47 am
Asking any objective Atlas users - Has this forum actually moved significantly towards one ideology or the other over the past 1 - 2 years? Because if this in any way has anything to do with Trump, I'd like to think that no one here is confusing a general intolerance for a sham candidate like Trump with moving left.

not in the last couple, years, no.   

but in the last decade, since Naso's early days on the forum, there's been a huge change in what positions are considered mainstream liberal.  Civil unions but not gay marriage used to be an acceptable center-left position.  Drug legalization was the province of the lefty and libertarian fringe.  Transgender issues were not on anyone's radar and were not politicized.  And this has dramatically affected forum content.
90  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama nominee dies awaiting confirmation on: June 07, 2016, 10:09:17 am
Just put your blue avatar back up, Vosem, for Christ's sake.

I thought you didn't want anyone who doesn't support Trump to be Republicans Huh
91  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of minorities who collaborate with the Alt-right on: June 07, 2016, 10:02:25 am
I still don't have a clear idea of who Yiannopoulos is or what's supposed to be interesting about him.

I'm not sure anyone has a clear idea of who he is, including him.
92  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ralph Nader is a racist bigot on: June 07, 2016, 09:59:01 am
He didn't say anything bigoted.  He was explaining why people of a certain age and demographic find Trump appealing. Nice try though.
93  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Former Stanford Swimmer Found Guilty of Rape, Gets Only 6 Months on: June 07, 2016, 09:56:03 am
If there's a sense you can't count on the criminal justice system to make a strong stand against rape where it has been determined beyond a reasonable doubt, then we can expect to see more of this drive to make colleges punish students on a much lower standard of evidence.

That would probably be much preferable though I'd have concerns with BYU and whatever nonsense they do that harms the victim. Probably a lot of southern Christian schools too.

How would that be better?   That means schools can expell a student and tar theur record for something that doesn't come close to a reasonable doubt, with colleges much more vulnerable to the opinion of students and others.   I'd much rather leave it to the Court system so that the innocent are not punished and that the innocent are protected from the truly guilty.    I believe we need massive reform to our criminal justice system so we are not sending people to literal torture when they go to jail, but rape is the sort of crime that someone should go to jail for.
94  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Cuomo signs executive order halting state business w/groups that boycott Israel on: June 07, 2016, 09:48:48 am
Pretty sure this is a violation of freedom of speech and is so anticonstitionnal.

Not that Cuomo care about Constitution, he only cares about money.

You think businesses have 1st Amendment rights?  That's a very unpopular view on the Left nowadays.

95  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Institute of Funny Partial Thread Titles You've Seen on Atlas on: June 07, 2016, 09:42:04 am
2016 Board:
Re: Anyone else think TR...
will come back from the dead to endorse?
96  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Best and Worst Senators of the Past 50 Years: Delaware on: June 06, 2016, 03:05:51 pm
Chris Coons is neither bearded nor a Marxist. Huh

It's how his friends described him in college.
97  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Clarence Thomas on: June 06, 2016, 03:03:59 pm
I'm honestly at a loss for why there hasn't been universal hate so far.

Why should there be?

98  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Former Stanford Swimmer Found Guilty of Rape, Gets Only 6 Months on: June 06, 2016, 03:01:03 pm
If there's a sense you can't count on the criminal justice system to make a strong stand against rape where it has been determined beyond a reasonable doubt, then we can expect to see more of this drive to make colleges punish students on a much lower standard of evidence.
99  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Best and Worst Senators of the Past 50 Years: Delaware on: June 06, 2016, 01:51:27 am
Delaware has had some good Senators.  I'll go with JJ Williams for the best.
100  About this Site / The Atlas / When does generic Republican become Trump in the GE Polls database? on: June 06, 2016, 12:57:02 am
I'm confused as to what the standard is.  for example, this is Iowa GE poll chart:

obviously this graph does not represent Trump in the early part of 2015 when he was not even being polled, but the graph makes no distinction as to when if ever the graph begins measuring Trump, whom the blue line is assigned to in the legend.
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