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76  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump Cabinet confirmation hearings **live commentary thread** on: January 24, 2017, 08:50:40 pm
Carson makes it out of committee as well.  Ugh.

Unanimously even. He made it clear he was willing to work with the members of the committee on whatever issues were important to them, and had studied up on things before the hearing enough that anyone hoping he'd be embarrassed as an ignoramous was going to be disappointed.

Is Pompeo so bad? I listened to his hearing, and my impression of him wasn't negative at all...he seemed to me at least a loyal and trustworthy person( to your Nation, obviously, not to Trump)...maybe I don't know him fully?
The issue was mainly things he had said in the past about torture and surveillance.  Also some concern with the written answers he gave.
77  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Most influental forum user on: January 23, 2017, 08:06:12 pm
78  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The TRUMP inauguration thread on: January 23, 2017, 04:16:43 pm
Our excellent police are squashing violent leftist riots.


Look at these racist right wingers

that's Krazen in the green.

are those their Christmas outfits?
79  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Betsy DeVos on: January 23, 2017, 04:14:20 pm
Seems like a nice person but lol.   she has no IDEA what she's doing.
80  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why does the media have such a fetish with Mike Pence calling his wife "mother"? on: January 23, 2017, 03:24:27 pm
to Rolling Stone, anything that isn't cool and current is strange, exotic and hilarious. 
81  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of this chart? on: January 23, 2017, 02:52:27 pm
This graph looks helpful you really start to look at it.

uh, Huffington Post has higher journalistic standards than CNN, and even apparently the NYT?   lol.   Most of it is clickbait. Which goes for a lot of the Guardian too.  NYT should be higher, but toward the left.  FOX and MSNBC = High Journalistic Standards ?   Ok if you mean Shep Smith and Chuck Todd, but a lot of it belongs in the extreme lower two corners.

82  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of having sex on: January 23, 2017, 01:49:06 pm
It should be a state issue.

seriously though, Snowstalker option.
83  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What caused 9/11? on: January 22, 2017, 03:23:51 pm
The Gregorian calendar
The Wright Brothers
expensive land values
84  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Multiple Sources: IN Republicans Propose Bill Making It Legal for Police to Kill on: January 21, 2017, 03:37:34 am
Deadly force is not a solution for blocked roads. If you want to murder someone for blocking the road, then you are a scary individual.

Where in this bill is there any authorization to use deadly force?  If anything, having dead bodies in the roadway is going to increase the blockage, not decrease it.  You'd have to be an idiot to think "by any means necessary" means "Break out the machine gun, boys. It's protestor season and there's no bag limit."  Granted, the bill could be better written to assuage panicky people.

At best, this doesn't mean anything at all as written.
85  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Prescription drug prices and generic drug law on: January 21, 2017, 03:01:54 am
That's really weird how the generic isn't any less expensive than that.   

Not really.  Some drugs are going to be expensive to make, no matter who makes them, if the quality control is good.  I have a family member who is on several medicines, all generic, and the cost of them without insurance would range anywhere from $15 to $600.

The small difference between brand name and generic is what I meant. but I guess once the generic is available the brand name medicines tend to go down a lot in price.
86  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Anyone else excited for 'Mad Dog' Mattis being Secretary of Defense? on: January 21, 2017, 02:58:45 am
He might be Trump's sanest pick. But I'd be a lot happier about him if someone, including Trump, would bother at least trying, even once, to explain why the rule should be thrown out for him. There doesn't seem to have even been an actual debate over the waiver in congress. They just attached it as a rider to an appropriations bill or some such nonsense.

Anyone willing to try?

There was a debate about it in the Senate.  The argument was that Mattis was very well respected and the kind of person who would add much needed stability and thoughtfulness to the Trump administration.
87  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Multiple Sources: IN Republicans Propose Bill Making It Legal for Police to Kill on: January 20, 2017, 06:49:29 pm
Here's a more informative article

the current state of things:
During the meeting, numerous ideas for amendments were proposed to limit the bill. These included rewording the phrase “any means necessary” and including wording to differentiate spontaneous protests that do not have the proper permits and paperwork and permitted ones with the proper notification and paperwork. As there was no vote on the bill, its future still hangs in the balance, but Sen. Jim Buck. R-Kokomo, at the beginning of the meeting mentioned that amendments were likely to be made in the future, before the bill made it out of the committee.
88  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Prescription drug prices and generic drug law on: January 20, 2017, 06:00:15 pm
So today I was diagnosed with type 2 bipolar, and prescribed Abilify. Something interesting happened when I went to fill the prescription. Name-brand Abilify without insurance is $1,070 for a 30-day supply, versus $966 for generic. With my insurance, I could have paid $332 for the generic, or used the "Abilify savings card" to pay $5 a month for name-brand Abilify, versus around $580 a month with insurance.

I have a feeling this is a game they're playing to get around the generic drug laws enacted in the 1980s. They're billing your insurance for $490 for a medication that probably costs a few cents per pill to make, and with that markup, they can afford to take a bath on the rest by eating the rest, less the $5 you pay each month.

That's really weird how the generic isn't any less expensive than that.   

But yes, if it were up to makers of brand name drugs, the insurance would cover everything and there'd be no copays. They're willing to give out cards and coupons a lot of the time to cover the copay, if it means people are taking the drug.

Also, your insurance only pays for half the cost of the medication?  Ugh.
89  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The TRUMP inauguration thread on: January 20, 2017, 05:38:54 pm
Our excellent police are squashing violent leftist riots.


And old women, the disabled and little kids get pepper sprayed!  What a great day to be an American!
90  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Fremont Voting Booth: January 2017 Special Election on: January 20, 2017, 04:10:28 pm
1. Republitarian
2. Siren
91  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Petition to add Russian avatars on: January 19, 2017, 06:52:56 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't all the other avatars use the Mercator projection (or at least one with non-converging longitude lines)? This one looks more globular.

I think it's appropriate for a country with a long arctic coastline.
92  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What is the most powerful politician you have slept with? on: January 19, 2017, 02:57:07 pm
my cat. She is member of cabinet.

I talk with her about running for president, but she no seem interested.
93  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The CrabCake Bureau of Funny Post Archival on: January 19, 2017, 02:46:56 pm
Pitt Tory
YaBB God

Posts: 13179

Re: I have a theory about the Patriot slogan Liberty Or Death
« on: January 19, 1783 at 12:43:59 am »

I have a theory about the Patriot slogan

Liberty or Death

It occurs to me that many of these Yankee traitors are now dead.


94  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: This is our last day under Obama. on: January 19, 2017, 02:42:11 pm
Take down a bunch of statistics of your life right now, so that when you're asked if you're better off than you were four years ago, it isn't guess work.

height: 5'10''
weight: 150 lbs.
eyes: 2
fingers: 10
teeth: 27 Huh
cats: 1
95  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Jill Stein? on: January 19, 2017, 02:34:36 pm
Simply a lunatic.

I'd love explanations more then accusations.
Her running mate thinks Bernie Sanders is a "white supremacist" and thinks his supporters are ignorant. Stein also took corporate donations even though she ran as an anti-corporate candidate. Look at her donations here: http://docquery.fec.gov/pres/2015/Q3/C00581199/A_EMPLOYER_C00581199.html

"corporate donations" = donations by people who are employed by corporations.
96  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: World's eight richest people have same wealth as poorest 50% on: January 19, 2017, 02:08:04 pm
Of Course, but the third-world has been the "third world" because of exploitation from foreign countries, and support for such exploitation by the aristocratic/capitalistic elite of such a country. To fix such a situation one needs to critique the nature of capitalism (not only reform it), get power away from the burgoise and the elite (get rid of the anti-social natures of capitalism), and reform the country, to have a socialist aspect with still some sense of capitalism and markets under strong social(ist) provisions, equality in terms of economic and social power between it's citizens, a strung public sector to help it's citizens, coming with with regulated private business, that still allows for the development of small business, but does not alow the capitalistic and economic elite to reign free.
Ok, I'm really sorry to re-hash that, but this is a simplification. Was there colonial exploitation? Yes, of course. But what was the main form of wealth in the countries of Asia and Africa back then? Spices and precious metals. The main harm the Europeans did was to confiscate a lot of the wealth storage of the countries they conquered.

But I would argue that industrialization is the main advancement of society since 1800.

You're making some great points in this thread, but you're fundamentally wrong about colonialism. Vast disruptions in populations, agriculture, trade networks, social and political structures, etc. in the various regions in order to remake these regions according to the economic, political and ideological designs of various actors in colonial projects. It's hard to know where to begin. Maybe the transportation of crops, animals, and (often forcibly) of people, across continents and oceans?
That does not mean at all that the blame for world poverty in anything remotely like a general sense can be put at the foot of colonialism, but it did have real and lasting effects, for good and certainly in a great many cases for ill.  The impact has to be measured in specific historical-geographic terms.
97  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: World's eight richest people have same wealth as poorest 50% on: January 18, 2017, 07:15:41 pm
Poorer countries suffer from a lack of property rights, protectionism, corruption, and bad leadership. While numbers like this are eye popping, it's also worth noting much of the US falls in the global 5% for wealth.

We know what works: Investment, free trade, building infrastructure, moving past resource extraction, investing in education initiatives, and cutting down on communicable diseases. Slowly, we're seeing a lot of progress.

Which is relevant for headlines like this. How is "wealth" counted?  In wealthy liberal democracies, if you have a house and a farm, that is counted as a financial asset, and can be used as collateral for getting a loan. That's not necessarily the case elsewhere.
98  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Cory Booker on: January 18, 2017, 01:20:45 am
What are your thoughts on the corporate pig who voted to deny sick people access to drugs they need to survive?

11 other Democrats voted against increasing drug prices for Americans who don't buy their drugs through sketchy foreign websites, but sure, pick on the black guy.
99  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: VA-SEN 2018: Laura Ingraham planning a run on: January 17, 2017, 05:37:01 pm
^^ Lot of flaws in your logic. First of all, she's not more popular with the VA GOP than Barbara Comstock is.

"Barbara Who?" - most VA Republicans.

but yes, Comstock would do better than her in the general.
100  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post something to cheer the previous poster up on: January 16, 2017, 11:08:32 pm
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