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76  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Simple Truths Silver Mine on: October 20, 2014, 10:43:17 pm
Bush wasn't unintelligent. In fact, his genius move was to drop the elitist, East Coast WASPy snobbery that pretty much defines the rest of the Bush clan, in favour of that "I'm a small-town hick" act.  That way his liberal opponents all went for the easy elitist attacks, allowing BUsh to maintain a populist image.

Neither is Palin. She was just tragically unprepared for prime-time. An alternative planet where Palin was never chosen as veep could have kept her as a serious political player now, rather than the laughing stock she is right now.
77  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Limiting Abortion... on: October 20, 2014, 10:36:42 pm
On the alternative side of things, one can quite easily question the sincerity in the Republican Party's efforts to actually ban abortion. The Republican Party had ample opportunity to overturn Roe in the 80s and early 90s if they hadn't screwed their Supreme Court nominations up. It casts a rather different perspective on say, the presidential candidacy of Mitt Romney: pay lip service to the Pro-Life movement but when the chips are down and they actually have choice between protecting life and maintaining power, what will the choice be?

But will Republican Presidents actually be allowed to make Supreme Court nominations anymore that will not align with the Religious Right (unless they are replacing a Liberal justice or Kennedy in a Senate that can come up with a coalition who will block that nomination)?

I can even see Kennedy seeing the writing on the wall and concurring or joining a decision that throws out Roe, Casey and Griswold if a personhood  law soon gets passed at the state level and a Republican Government gets elected in 2016. However, I will contend that if abortion is still legal after the next president leaves office, it probably will never be a crime.

There is absolutely no way Kennedy is going to touch Griswold - he's based a lot of his decisions on it.  He may be willing to modify Casey similar to the way that Casey modified Roe.
78  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Look and Layout Preferences #10: First day of the week on the calendar on: October 20, 2014, 09:56:09 am
The first day of the week is Sunday, how do you not know the first day of the US week?

I thnk that is little known outside the US. Sunday has long ago replaced Saturday as the day of rest in (culturally) Christian societies, so its not exactly logical that you are still resting before you work. Quite anachronistic. The modern ISO standard is Monday-Sunday.

And Saturday/Sunday is the week-end. Starting the week before it has ended is strange. Wink

You are forgetting the definition of "end" that means "the part that lies at the boundary."  The weekend is therefore at the transition of one week and the other.

The reason most Christians celebrate Sunday as the day of rest  (I'm sure you know but I'm just stating this explicitly)  because this is the day Christ rose from the dead. This was, according to the Bible, on the first day of the week.
79  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is This Acceptable Behavior? on: October 20, 2014, 01:03:23 am
It's actually not misspelled, it's just spelled foneticly according to the speech patterns of its author.
80  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Look and Layout Preferences #12: Show quick-moderation on message index on: October 20, 2014, 12:59:07 am
i have no idea what this is
81  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you prefer freepcrusher-style Democrats or krazen-style Republicans? on: October 20, 2014, 12:25:35 am
neither exist outside the internet.
82  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Republican Party (1854-1874) on: October 20, 2014, 12:24:37 am
Besides Lincoln, good

Why would someone think that Lincoln is worse than any other Republican of this era? 
83  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Cornelius Harvey McGillicuddy IV on: October 19, 2014, 11:27:04 pm
seems like an FF.  why the hate? 
84  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: RIP MattVT, FF on: October 19, 2014, 11:04:38 pm

The Northeast is teaching religious doctrine on marriage in the public schools?
85  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Mistake on the Atlas Election Predictions site on: October 18, 2014, 07:50:34 pm
has it been fixed?  I'm not seeing it. Looks ok to me.
86  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which comedian would you most like to see as president? on: October 18, 2014, 07:23:57 pm
Colin Quinn
87  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Is hating hip-hop racist? on: October 17, 2014, 08:47:22 pm
Clearly. It's not just coincidence that it happens to be the one genre of music invented by black people.

Uh huh.

..what?

I mean it's like someone who says they hate polka. Pretty clear Nazi dogwhistle.
88  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Is It Unfair that Caucasians Are So Diverse? on: October 17, 2014, 08:28:07 pm
It's not just Caucasians that are phenotypically diverse, it's Central Asians more broadly.
89  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: David Byrne vs. David Bowie on: October 17, 2014, 04:40:55 pm
early Bowie is amazing.
90  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Is hating hip-hop racist? on: October 17, 2014, 04:26:14 pm
Clearly. It's not just coincidence that it happens to be the one genre of music invented by black people.
91  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Republican Party (1854-1874) on: October 17, 2014, 04:22:49 pm
FP for ending slavery, but with some HP elements, starting with their 1856 campaign where they nominated an incompetent scoundrel and relied on Mormon-baiting that was partly responsible for the Utah War.
92  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1940 Presidential Election on: October 17, 2014, 04:15:28 pm
The one who recognised that Nazi Germany needed to be defeated.

So you'd be fine with either, or...?
93  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: MA: The Mideast Abolition of Vice Taxes Bill (Debating) on: October 16, 2014, 10:05:26 pm
I would suggest looking at the budget and mention exactly which taxes you are repealing from it, so there's no ambiguity.
94  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: MA: The Mideast Restroom Equality Act (Final Vote) on: October 16, 2014, 10:01:38 pm
Why can't we allow for there to be gendered restrooms and just let transgender people use whichever they want?
95  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Policy Status Act (Debating) on: October 16, 2014, 09:59:52 pm
working to update this page:
http://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Categorical_Index_of_Statute
might be a good step here
96  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Houston demands local pastors turn over sermons. on: October 16, 2014, 09:44:15 pm
Will they lose their right to marry? Will they get fired from their place of employment? Will they be put in jail, or stoned to death? Hanged to death? Will their families shun them? Will they get death threats?

I think they'll be ok.

If this is ok, what's to keep some city council from going after churches that preach gay rights? Or does that not matter either because somewhere something worse is happening?
97  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of John Oliver on: October 16, 2014, 09:12:42 pm
The stuff he's done on criminal justice has been excellent.
98  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: LUMINE IS A SEPERATIST - VOTE AGAINST THIS TRAITOR on: October 15, 2014, 07:41:50 pm
Al, why you keep try to make D-Rs vote Lumine instead me and Poirot? Sad
99  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: There's only one candidate that can save the Republican Party... on: October 15, 2014, 01:05:24 am
A former Speaker of the House responding to facebook comments? Wow.

At one point he was really into Second Life, convinced it would be the future of political engagement.
100  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: In Defense of Obama on: October 15, 2014, 12:53:33 am
There's nothing racist about saying blacks and Latinos vote Democrat. The way you say it is 100% racist, but that's because you're a racist who sees everything through a racist lens.

White urban voters vote the same as black and Hispanic urban voters. The only difference is most whites are suburban/rural while most blacks and hispanics are urban.

Urbanites see the benefits of the government first hand with public transportation, public schools, public libraries, etc. Urban culture is generally aligned with Democratic Party policy.

The thriving progressive urban metropolises of South Texas, West Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Southern Colorado, and the Inland Empire. The progressive cosmopolitan powerhouses in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and South Carolina.

How can you be from New Mexico, and know so little about minority demography?

OMG, you managed to post an even dumber post in this thread. Kudos, brother, kudos.

What is so dumb there?   It isn't true that racial differences in voting can be accounted for by the urban/rural divide.

There is so much dumb there that I am not sure where to start. First of all, non-white people in Louisiana and Mississippi do not vote Republican. Can we at least agree on that? Like, seriously, we need to agree on that or just commit suicide because there would be no point to living otherwise.

Ok, now that we have gotten beyond the deep south (hopefully), we can start discussing Hispanic voting patterns. Rove figured out in 2004 how to get middle class Hispanics to vote for the Republican party. Subsequently, the Republican party went on a mission to figure out how to repel such votes. If you do not understand that, then you do not understand contemporary American politics. You may want to apologize for the Republican party due to your own personal biases, but you need to understand that going nativist repels Hispanic and Asian votes, even if those individuals own their own businesses making more than $500,000 a year. It is more important to an individual that their success be celebrated and appreciated than them having to pay 3% more in taxes. Does that make sense to you? I know you are not a racist, and you may have a hard time understanding this, but many of your Republican friends and family are. That is why minorities, especially those who are doing well economically, don't vote for you guys.

At this point you may be pissed, protesting vehemently that the Democrats are just as racist as Republicans. That is not how things are perceived though, and perception is reality. I will admit that some Republicans have gotten smart about this, but it remains to be seen how successful this is. The Republicans need to push a message of prosperity regardless of race, ethnicity, religion etc. If they are successful at this, they will be successful in the near future. If they are not, then they won't be, as well off minorities vote Democrat because the alternative is a hostile Republican party.

When are Republicans going to be able to spread that message? Do they even care enough to spread that message? Are the Republicans interested in being the party of white people or well off Americans? That is a question the Republicans themselves need to answer. Are they content with being a fascist party or do they want to maintain themselves as a conservative party? That is something for the Republican party to decide for themselves.

I agree with a good portion of what you said, and it's part of why I'm not enthusiastic about the GOP even if I think a lot of the criticism of them on this board goes off the deep end. But I don't see what that has to do with the post you just said was dumb. Seems like you are responding to something else.  Do you really think that King's explanation of why minorities vote Democrat is accurate?  (From what you just posted it seems like you think it is something else) How does it account for the vote of Hispanics in rural West Texas or the vote of rural blacks in Mississippi to say that minorities vote Democrat because they appreciate urban public services?

(The Republican members of my family are no more racist than I am, btw. Maybe a bit less PC unintentionally sometimes. I'm guessing that was just a throw away phrase but that's kind of a silly thing for you to say.)
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