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76  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump to sign executive order repealing climate change regulations on: March 28, 2017, 02:23:08 am
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Specifically, the order will rescind at least six Obama-era executive orders aimed at curbing climate change and regulating carbon emissions, including Obama's November 2013 executive order instructing the federal government to prepare for the impact of climate change and the September 2016 presidential memorandum that outlined the "growing threat to national security" that climate change poses.

Smart move.  You know what they say, "If you fail to plan for the thing, you plan for the thing to fail"  ... er, maybe it's. .. "If don't prepare for change, change won't prepare for you" ... something to that effect.
77  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Justice Department to withhold grants from sanctuary cities on: March 28, 2017, 02:12:09 am
What are these grants that they won't be able to get?   It sounds from the announcement that there are other methods of making the cities comply with this that they are looking at also (?)
78  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Neil Gorsuch Confirmation Hearing *DISCUSSION AND LIVE COMMENTARY* on: March 28, 2017, 02:07:22 am
It's kind of funny that the republican senate leadership is willing to go nuclear to confirm a guy that essentially said he might vote to uphold Roe vs. Wade. That is supposed to be the #1 court case republicans want to overturn, and yet the guy they're about to confirm is someone who at times in his hearing seemed close to endorsing the verdict as is.

That's a misunderstanding of what he said.  He said it was a precedent, and so is due the respect of precedent.  But precedents can be overturned.
79  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Neil Gorsuch Confirmation Hearing *DISCUSSION AND LIVE COMMENTARY* on: March 27, 2017, 07:11:57 pm
What happens when we come at an instance in time where the law substantially based on the moment?

translation?
80  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Sam Spade Memorial Good Post Gallery on: March 27, 2017, 05:13:45 pm
Please stop harassing Dave.  He is on a glorious quest in the mythical lands of Mapia, where the sunsets are an exquisite blend of Republican blue and Democratic red.  The lands are full of bloom and bountiful with many maps.  Even the stars light up with constellations of municipal level elections and alternative gerrymanders.  We're all urgently awaiting his return, and each second that you bother him with frivolous codswallop and flapdoodle emails just puts the holy grail of maps further and further out of his reach.
81  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: March 27, 2017, 05:12:45 pm
pearl clutchers

Didn't this phrase used to mean something?

When was that? The 18th century?
82  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Was Obama one of the most consequential presidents in American history? on: March 27, 2017, 05:05:56 pm
No, certainly not "officially."
83  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: East Chicago CRISIS: Mayor Anthony Copland kicking families out due to lead. on: March 27, 2017, 04:59:53 pm
They need to leave but sounds like the city is really forking up the response. They should have started with some sort of community meeting telling the residents the situation and addressing their concerns.

This is not new. The city has spoken to residents about this for over a year.

The question is: what was the quality of the engagement?
84  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: East Chicago CRISIS: Mayor Anthony Copland kicking families out due to lead. on: March 27, 2017, 02:10:08 pm
They need to leave but sounds like the city is really forking up the response. They should have started with some sort of community meeting telling the residents the situation and addressing their concerns.
85  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Neil Gorsuch Confirmation Hearing *DISCUSSION AND LIVE COMMENTARY* on: March 27, 2017, 02:02:28 pm
Looking at that list, it reads like 57-43 to me, with Manchin, Tester, King, Donnelly, and Heitkamp going for cloture. Followed five minutes later by the nuclear option.

add Warner, Bennett, and Coons, and that's 60.
A) I think its more 56-44 I don't see King going over heck I can see Tester as well also B) Warner, Bennett, and Coons are not likely yes

They may not vote for him, but they will support allowing a vote and save the filibuster for another day.
86  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Neil Gorsuch Confirmation Hearing *DISCUSSION AND LIVE COMMENTARY* on: March 27, 2017, 01:43:12 pm
Looking at that list, it reads like 57-43 to me, with Manchin, Tester, King, Donnelly, and Heitkamp going for cloture. Followed five minutes later by the nuclear option.

add Warner, Bennett, and Coons, and that's 60.
87  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mattis asks WH to lift Obama-restrictions on supporting Saudi-Arabia in Yemen on: March 27, 2017, 11:31:18 am
That WaPo article seems to vastly understate the US involvement in backing the Saudi War in Yemen so far.

Daniel Larison has been good on this issue from the beginning.
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The restrictions that the Obama administration put in place shortly before leaving office were a belated, half-hearted gesture ostensibly aimed at protesting indiscriminate coalition attacks on civilian targets. It was far too little, much too late, but it was better than nothing. Lifting those restrictions would tell the coalition that the new administration has no problem with the way they have been conducting their campaign, and it will encourage them to be even more reckless and irresponsible than they have been.

Giving the coalition even more support at this point would further implicate the U.S. in their war crimes, and backing an offensive on Hodeidah would make a horrifying humanitarian disaster in the country even worse. Millions are on the brink of famine in large part because of the Saudi-led intervention and blockade. More attacks on the port will push many of them over the brink. Increasing U.S. support would just deepen our complicity in wrecking and starving Yemen, and there can be no justification for doing that.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/mattis-dangerous-request-to-increase-support-for-the-war-on-yemen/
88  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Donald Trump will resign 'soon', says top Democrat Dianne Feinstein on: March 27, 2017, 11:14:07 am
Hey, Feinstein, if he doesn't resign, how about you resign instead?

Feinstein should promise to resign if Trump does.  That would be a glorious day for America.
89  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Have you ever taken an Ancestry DNA test? What was your result? on: March 27, 2017, 11:07:44 am
I care way more about the narrative aspect of genealogy than attempting to isolate some sort of blood quantum or whatever.

I somewhat agree with this. I only took mine because as is common in the Arab world, written records of family history and members is a fairly recent phenomenon, I only know up to the name of my great-great-grandfather, but yet have records of my mothers family going back 9 generations on Ancestry.com.

My father's family were Arab Christians who converted to Islam from Greek Orthodox Christianity about 3 generations ago with my great-grandfather.

Where in the Arab world were they from?

I am somewhat hesitant to do this because I am afraid it would come up 100% European and I like to wonder if there might be something else.  Maybe if I get to a complete dead end in the documentation, but thankfully I am far from at that point, at least as far as those who lived in US and Canada.
90  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Sam Spade Memorial Good Post Gallery on: March 24, 2017, 08:36:50 pm
It's hard to say whether students were bothered by it.  People are complicated.  There's been plenty of times throughout my life where someone did something that hurt me but I just smiled and said "okay."  Doesn't mean I didn't go in my room and cry afterwards.  Who knows?  Some students might even tease each other about it.  Why encourage that?

Even if it was the student's idea, the teacher could have stepped in.  They are the authority figure and need to be able to guide the students about what is acceptable behavior and what isn't.  Obviously it's awkward if they came up with the idea, but they could have just as easily done the project without actually using their classmates as the examples.  Also, it's problematic that only the black children were used as the slaves in this project.  It reinforces social divisions when people need to be coming together.  Students need to be taught about history, including the slave trade, but they don't need to be identifying each other as who would be the slave and who would be the master if this was 1786.

Maybe it wasn't a positive experience for everyone. We have no way of knowing. What is clear is that no student took any kind of action to indicate that the experience had bothered them, and that local and national media alike have chosen to sensationalize the story. That's what they do: Outrage and controversy begets clicks, views, and impressions.

We also don't know what kind of racial attitudes, whether implicit or explicit, were behind the students' actions. When children are given autonomy, they are almost guaranteed to skirt lines that shouldn't be crossed occasionally. To me, this seems like a critical part of learning. Moreover, children aren't necessarily likely to understand why they shouldn't do something just because it could be made to look bad in over-sensationalized television news pieces.

The overriding concern for me is that I don't think we need be so quick to judge what happens in a classroom. I am sure that anyone with a bit of imagination could come up with a series of horrifying headlines describing events from their schooling that were, in fact, innocuous or even valuable. That's in the nature of learning, and in the nature of children. Far more harm was done to my education by paranoid administrators, overzealous school boards, and overprotective and neurotic parents than by any mistakes made by my classmates or teachers.

Moreover, we live in a country in which teachers are constantly demeaned and controlled, regimented and rationalized. Why do you think the profession has become so low status compared to where it stood decades ago? Part of it is because brilliant career-oriented women now have more options, part of it is because the pay is awful, and part of it is because of the absurd certification requirements. But if the aging professionals whom I know are any indication, the loss of autonomy has also done a great deal to chase some of the most energetic, enthusiastic, and intelligent educators out of the field, or at least out of public schools.

(The greatest horror is in realizing that few students have any choice. Unless their parents - who are probably both overworked, very likely divorced, and almost certainly indebted - have the resources to choose how their children are educated, they will spend thirteen years or more in a system that increasingly resembles a prison sentence and that fails to bring even basic numeracy or literacy to a large share of its graduates. But this is a tangential point.)
91  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Kentucky Passes 'Blue Lives Matter' Law making it hate crime to attack cops on: March 24, 2017, 08:32:38 pm
Do we have a hate crimes statute for attacking people for having 'noble' professions?

Many criminals think it acceptable to attack and even kill people for being prostitutes. Should we have a hate crimes statute for that?

Ethnicity, race, religion, handicap, social class, and gender identity might be cause to have protections against crimes directed at people for what they are. Genocide and genocide-like crimes are the definitive hate crimes, and the path to those crimes begins with smaller-scale hate crimes.

Hate crimes statutes are ordinarily leveled at crimes less egregious than murder.  I can see how "Class of '20" or "Eddie + Susan 4ever" as graffiti are much less troublesome than a swastika or Nazi slogans daubed on 'Temple Beth Shalom'. "Off a Pig Today" on a cop's property? Interesting comparison. 

Isn't the theory behind hate crimes legislation the idea that someone is terrorizing all members of a group through their actions?  In that case I don't see why we wouldn't have those protections for prostitutes.
92  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump Cabinet confirmation hearings **live commentary thread** on: March 23, 2017, 04:40:15 pm
Friedman (Israel Ambassador) passes CLOTURE 52-46.


Confirmed 52-46

Manchin and Menendez Aye, Isakson and Paul not voting.
93  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Tomi Lahren on: March 22, 2017, 05:14:57 pm
HP (Hot Piece)

You are welcome to go get drowned.

"You are welcome to go drown." makes more sense, mon ami.

Being drowned is different than drowning.

My knowledge of the intricacies of the English language is not acute enough to know which turn of phrase is more appropriate to describe female genital secretions, but point taken. Tongue
Huh !
94  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Kalwejt Foundation for the Promotion of Atlas Hilarity on: March 22, 2017, 01:31:38 am
Statistically, the correct answer is Detroit. But Florida's larger cities aren't exactly safe - especially Miami and Orlando. Where I live in Florida has a relatively high crime rate, but it's not too dangerous. In most places you'd feel safe leaving your door unlocked at night. Although in Jacksonville, just a few miles away, I certainly wouldn't advise that.

People do that?

Yes, in fact, the same people who say we should close the border because they love the people inside



I'll go with the LGBT Death Star.
95  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trumpcare eliminates mental health coverage from Medicaid on: March 21, 2017, 11:32:46 pm
What's really idiotic is that doing this is likely to end up costing the government as a whole more money. Of course, those added costs will end up being paid mainly by State and local governments, so it might save the Federal government a little money.

But the states will be the ones deciding whether or not to require mental health coverage, correct?
i don't think so. but either way this is horrendous.

My point is that if states could be convinced that mental health coverage is a cost-saving measure for them, then they could still keep coverage.  That isn't to say that they will be easy to convince.

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For Medicaid, AHCA removes the essential health benefit categories for the expansion population, allowing states to create plans that cover fewer services, Kevin Malone, associate with Epstein Becker Green, tells Behavioral Healthcare Executive. In theory, states could choose to stop covering behavioral health for about 14 million Medicaid expansion enrollees.
http://www.behavioral.net/article/policy/behavioral-health-benefits-shift-gop-plan
96  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trumpcare eliminates mental health coverage from Medicaid on: March 21, 2017, 06:20:12 pm
What's really idiotic is that doing this is likely to end up costing the government as a whole more money. Of course, those added costs will end up being paid mainly by State and local governments, so it might save the Federal government a little money.

But the states will be the ones deciding whether or not to require mental health coverage, correct?
97  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Texas Senate Passes Bill Allowing OBs To Keep Info From Pregnant Women on: March 21, 2017, 03:17:24 pm
https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB25/id/1548615

Good. Wrongful birth is a disgusting concept that completely negates the value of those with disabilities or imperfections of one kind or another.  If someone wants to sue on another basis for information improperly withheld, they still can.
98  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who should be added to Mt. Rushmore? on: March 21, 2017, 03:03:29 pm
"No one" only has 3 votes?  You people are sick.
99  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Tomi Lahren on: March 20, 2017, 05:34:40 pm
I can't help but feel embarrassed for her.  She gets some vile hate but the positive attention itself feels unseemly, like some combination of patronizing indulgence and exploitation.
100  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Budget Blueprint to Make America Great Again on: March 18, 2017, 11:07:09 pm
It cuts a lot of important programs along with cuts to programs of more questionable usefulness, but the criticism of it have tended toward the absurd, like focusing on the 3% less going to Meals on Wheels as a result of getting rid of a grant distribution program.
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