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76  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Post a map of the previous poster against Romney or Obama (Primary Version) on: April 08, 2014, 09:35:55 pm
2008 D primaries:  IndyTexas v Obama

77  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Dartmouth Students Storm President's Offices, Seriousness of Demands Unclear on: April 08, 2014, 07:54:52 pm
So what happened with the students that stayed overnight in the office?
78  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Besides Nevada, which would be the first state to legalize brothels on: April 08, 2014, 05:51:53 pm
Vermont or New Hampshire.

I don't think this is compatible with the image either state is interested in having in terms of tourism and commerce. 

My guess is Washington State but I don't see this anywhere in the near future.
79  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Make a map between the [choose any number] preceding posters (non-US edition) on: April 08, 2014, 05:23:45 pm


Conservatives - DC Al Fine   37%
Liberals - Averroes Nix   36%
NDP - TNF                    27%
80  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Department Renaming Amendment (Amendment at Vote) on: April 08, 2014, 12:58:05 am
Aye
81  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: South American/Asian Trade Reform Act (Amendment at Vote) on: April 08, 2014, 12:55:04 am
Nay
82  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What was the most strange job you ever applied for? on: April 08, 2014, 12:40:56 am

a furniture shop I bet.
83  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Taker lost at Wrestlemania on: April 08, 2014, 12:02:45 am
The fact that this is still a thing should make people very, very sad.

I saw a commercial that follows a boy as he grows up watching Wrestlemania, and then finally he's an adult and he shares it with his young boy.   It was one of the most depressing things I've ever seen.
84  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Bacon King Institute of Comedy on: April 07, 2014, 10:34:41 pm
Thank you every one!!! I ended up locating it in a document I had saved a long time ago.

Damn straight.  I have my bank PIN tattooed on my forehead, backward.  That way as I approach the drive-through ATM I just have to look up at the rear-view mirror to see it.

85  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Opinion of Kiryas Joel, New York on: April 07, 2014, 10:29:58 pm
Architecturally disappointing/garish from the pictures I can find,  but seems like it'd be a neat place to visit nonetheless.
86  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: if youre looking for a job.... on: April 07, 2014, 10:21:01 pm
It really depends on the job.  I don't put in that many a day because there aren't as many job openings for second-year law students as there are for other fields, but on average, I've been putting in about 2-4 a day.

2-4 a day is not that many??    How do you even find that many jobs that you think you have a chance at?
87  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Opinion of these charts ... on: April 07, 2014, 10:15:33 pm
Yeah, hospitals do a whole lot of unnecessary cesareans. 
88  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: April 07, 2014, 09:59:16 pm
Svensson had already had a history of acting less-than-normal and had a tendency to blow up. 

in other words an Atlas poster
89  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Extraterrestrial Act of 2014 (At Final Vote) on: April 07, 2014, 09:47:46 pm
Nay
90  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mozilla CEO forced out because of Prop 8 Donation on: April 07, 2014, 09:45:57 pm
Go team gay rights.

Am I wrong that this was almost entirely an issue driven by people internal to Mozilla, and not the "gay rights" bogeyman? The only external issue I saw was OKCupid's protest page. After that, I've read a lot about Mozilla's culture of openness, social activism, etc. and how Eich was a bad fit and not popular even before the Prop 8 issue arose.

You are right, but some people don't care if they can blame something negative on the gays.

Was a loyal Mozilla user for years but changed to Chrome when Eich became CEO. Mozilla's board of directors had every right deciding that they didn't want someone with views like his to be the face of their corporation.

Also, a note on Andrew Sullivan. He's a worm, a real Uncle Tom of the gay community. Pay no attention to what he says unless you want to hear a gay man lecture his own community on how to appease the straight man.

True, he has done a lot to appease the straight man. If it weren't for Andrew Sullivan and people like him, gay marriage would be more of a fringe left wing position and not nearly so much supported among gays either.

Can you back that claim up?

What other prominent anglophone writer was arguing for gay marriage in the late 1980s?   Andrew Sullivan brought it into the mainstream, and his support for marriage was attacked then with the same language you are using against him now. 
91  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Contract Modernization and Continuity Act of 2014 (At Final Vote) on: April 07, 2014, 09:26:47 pm
Aye
92  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is illegal immigration usually an act of love? on: April 07, 2014, 05:59:04 pm

For twenty-five years I've washed your clothes
Cooked your meals, cleaned your house
Given you children, milked the cow
After twenty-five years, why talk about love right now?
93  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mozilla CEO forced out because of Prop 8 Donation on: April 07, 2014, 05:17:53 pm
Go team gay rights.

Am I wrong that this was almost entirely an issue driven by people internal to Mozilla, and not the "gay rights" bogeyman? The only external issue I saw was OKCupid's protest page. After that, I've read a lot about Mozilla's culture of openness, social activism, etc. and how Eich was a bad fit and not popular even before the Prop 8 issue arose.

You are right, but some people don't care if they can blame something negative on the gays.

Was a loyal Mozilla user for years but changed to Chrome when Eich became CEO. Mozilla's board of directors had every right deciding that they didn't want someone with views like his to be the face of their corporation.

Also, a note on Andrew Sullivan. He's a worm, a real Uncle Tom of the gay community. Pay no attention to what he says unless you want to hear a gay man lecture his own community on how to appease the straight man.

True, he has done a lot to appease the straight man. If it weren't for Andrew Sullivan and people like him, gay marriage would be more of a fringe left wing position and not nearly so much supported among gays either.
94  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mozilla CEO forced out because of Prop 8 Donation on: April 07, 2014, 05:11:59 pm
I understand that those who tried to pressure him out of the job justify it by saying that this is more than just a run of the mill political issue, it's about basic equality.  But OTOH, there are plenty of other political issues that are literally about life and death.  Why not investigate every CEO's political statements and political donations on abortion, capital punishment, drone warfare, the US intervention in Libya, etc., and then organize boycotts of the companies whose CEO has the incorrect position on one or more of those issues?


To me, the differences comes down to creating a tolerant work environment.  If the boss has some position that a group of employees do not deserve equal rights, it's just problematic.  If someone says women shouldn't be able to vote or black people shouldn't be able to serve on a jury, can they really effectively manage an organization including women and black folk?  As any kind of organization, you need some type of norms of respect for each individual.  There at some level is going to be a clash between a tolerant environment of gay people and tolerance of homophobic and intolerance.  Unlike political issues, these types of civil rights issues are always going to matter in the workplace.

The question to me is whether opposing SSM is so heinous and disruptive to a good workplace environment that this was merited.  I would say no.

"Oh come on you gays, of course I'm a supporter of gay rights and all, but it's not THAT big of a deal you can't get married and can get fired for being gay! Just sit down, shut up, and wait for the level of support to become ~80-90% so we milquetoast straight people can finally hand you your civil rights."

Was there a single instance at all of Eich in all his years helping to build the company ever displaying personal intolerance or animosity toward any gay employees of the company?   
95  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Dartmouth Students Storm President's Offices, Seriousness of Demands Unclear on: April 07, 2014, 04:58:10 pm

Yes, but instead of Prague, the Communists have occupied Parkhurst. Tongue

That President Hanlon is a saint. 
96  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: controversial opinion: anyone think that the beatles on: April 07, 2014, 04:21:11 pm
It's worth noting that The Beatles song that BRTD posted is a cover.

I actually didn't know that.

However I was considering using either that or this one, which I'd say the same applies to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MHkgwA8t-g

I don't find that at all polished or simplistic - at least not if I'm really paying attention when I listen to it. 

I do really like that Portraits of the Past song between about 0:10 and 0:35.
97  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who is better, George Soros or Sheldon Adelson? on: April 07, 2014, 04:12:42 pm
I'll go with Soros.  His U.S. political contributions are small potatoes compared to what he has given to through the Open Society Foundations, which has been an FF endeavor on the whole.  There are some concerns about his role in the currency markets, but I don't know enough on that subject to even begin to speculate.
98  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Bill of Rights Amendment (Amendment at Vote) on: April 07, 2014, 09:51:00 am
Nay
99  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Queue Sanity Act (Amendment at Vote) on: April 07, 2014, 09:50:31 am
What is this anti-clogging rule you are talking about?

Come on, you were here in 2011 when I resintated it and catched hell for doing it. You might even have voted against it, but I cannot remember offhand.

Without it, every slot would have TNF bills in them.

I was aware of the rule though I don't remember the occasion of its passage or if I was in the Senate, but it is the sort of thing that I would have supported.  It is effective somewhat, though still very easy for a couple of senators to monopolize the queue so I wasn't sure if there was something else I was missing.

If someone wants to call this the anti-TNF rule they should add X's name too given the situation when I introduced it. Tongue
100  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Long-term Unemployment Relief Act (Debating) on: April 07, 2014, 09:38:14 am
So where would you like to start shua?

I'm trying to figure out what sections of the FLSA are detrimental to the long-term unemployed. Could someone explain how Section 4 works?
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