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1  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: How similar are Germany and Austria? How different are they? on: August 29, 2015, 09:44:08 pm
France produces wine and Belgium produces beer

Northern France produce beer and no wine.

Define "Northern France". Is it merely Picardy and Artois? Champagne is hardly central, much less Southern.

One could admittedly argue, however, that it would be more "logical" for Nord départment to be be in Belgium rather than in France,

Yes, Picady and Northern. Perhaps Normandy too. I would say Champagne is Eastern.
2  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 29, 2015, 07:06:44 pm
Colombian refugees?

Colombia has one of the world's largest internally displaced populations, reported at 6 million people according to UNHCR. 137,000 more Colombians were displaced during 2014.

Of the 360.000 refugees, there are 168.500 in Venezuela and 122.000 in Ecuador.


But what they flee exactly? The war between government, paramilitaries and FARC is pretty much inexistant since a decade.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mexico warns Texas not to refuse its immigrants' babies U.S. birth certificates on: August 29, 2015, 03:57:04 pm
Mexico ought to be minding their own...very serious...business.

Populist 'Merican rhetoric aside, Angus is of course correct.

Yeah, really. Some Federali in Tijuana threatening the United States? Are they nuts? All we have to do is make them drink their own water and we will win.

He isn't threating anyone, he reminds to Texas government they are bound to follow US federal laws (which they were ignoring).
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NLRB Ruling Clears Way for Unions in Fast Food Industry on: August 29, 2015, 03:53:27 pm
Yeah I have always wondered why anyone would think automation is a bad thing. Automation will only increase productivity and the standard of living of all. If all the work can be done by robots, the people can enjoy their lives doing something they enjoy that may have otherwise been economically impossible instead of wasting time on unfulfilling menial jobs.

I fully supporr automation and I think coupling it with guaranteed income for all is a good idea. I dont think guaranteed income is yet economically feasible, but with technological advancement it will be one day.
That's exactly where I'm at.  It will be great when people DON'T have to work.  Some people still can, but maybe for only 20 hours a week to pay for hobbies.  This will be a great day.  Of course those not working will still bitch about those that do (and the other way 'round).
Um you still you need a house and a car so how are you gonna pay for that when you say robots are gonna do all the work? You still need to work to pay for your house, put food on the table, and put gas in your car.

Basic income for all will happen with that. There is no way there could be a stable government without it at 50% unemployment.

It's either that or a shorter working week (this will reduce the numbers of hours needed, so 40 hours/week might become 35 or 30 with automatization).
5  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: How similar are Germany and Austria? How different are they? on: August 29, 2015, 03:48:24 pm
France produces wine and Belgium produces beer

Northern France produce beer and no wine.
6  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Serious question: When will the US start taking in asylum seekers ? on: August 29, 2015, 03:47:55 pm
I agree that 8k is absurdly low for Syrian refugees. I would think there would be the political will to increase that, but maybe recognizing the fear of there being a covert terrorist or two among the number has kept it from being something politicians have got in front of.

Harper wants Canada to take 10k, so yes, it's low (but they can't take any right now, since government is only caretaker until October elections).
7  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Will we see a Chinese Spring in the next years? on: August 29, 2015, 05:06:29 am
As long there there is growth, the Communists will stay in power. But, no growth is eternal.
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: In case you were wondering, George Zimmerman is still a very pleasant fellow on: August 29, 2015, 02:15:35 am
I still don't understand why his jurors weren't prosecuted for jury nullification.
9  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Will we see a Chinese Spring in the next years? on: August 28, 2015, 11:13:47 pm
Honestly I hope not. It's one of those things that I would understand and support in theory but in practice it would be devastating for the global economy so I hope it doesn't happen.

Can you imagine the instability resulting from a serious Chinese protest rebellion? China is making progress and it would be silly for their people to fight the regime now while the going is good.

That's the problem. Progress is slowing. What when it will come to a stop?
10  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Why Dave and the mods are letting the website becoming a new Stormfront? on: August 28, 2015, 10:59:31 pm
Afleitch isn't here, so, it's your job to convince Dave to appoint a mod on that board. One mod (which is frequently away) isn't enough to moderate that board, Morden.

EDIT: In any case, you CANNOT say you're doing your job if you let a troll spreading racialist theories about how non-white races have a lower IQ here. Do you really think Dave would be happy to learn than his website is used to spread such theories?

You wanted more interaction between mods and members? Do it, instead of hiding behind each other to deflect the responsability on someone else.

And don't babble about the difference between racism and nationalism (which is a very good point by muon), it's irrelevent here as it's very clear from Seinfeld posts on which side of that border he is.
11  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Why Dave and the mods are letting the website becoming a new Stormfront? on: August 27, 2015, 11:16:09 pm
Doesn't explain why you let obvious trolls post while doing nothing.

It's not because infraction points were removed than all moderation is removed.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - October 19, 2015 (Official Campaign Thread) on: August 27, 2015, 08:50:16 pm
Re Megantic-l'Erable: I think the NDP also had one of their more conspicuously paper-ish 2011 candidates there, too--presumably the present contender is a touch more solid.  And really, given the resource-based economic history of Thetford Mines, why *shouldn't* the NDP be competitive here?

There was huge changes there too. Last time, Conservatives were the only party not wanting to ban asbestos sales to foreign countries and international efforts to ban it, which surely helped them.

They dropped that idea recently, as the last effort to save the asbestos industry failed (and, so, there is no more asbestos mining in Thetford at all).

Thetford came to the conclusion it's dead and it won't come back.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - October 19, 2015 (Official Campaign Thread) on: August 27, 2015, 03:53:34 pm
Keep in mind that Megantic-Erable was Christian Paradis's seat and he was very personally popular. Its possible that with him out of the picture - all bets are off

And Megantic-Erable includes Mégantic, which I suppose are very upset towards Conservatives (remember, the downtown exploded due to very weak railroad regulations).
14  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK MPs - 2015 Parliament on: August 26, 2015, 05:24:12 am
Sir Peter Bottomley (Conservative - Worthing West)

One of the longest serving MPs, having been in the House continuously since 1975. First represented Woolwich West and then its successor Eltham until 1997 before moving to the safe seat of Worthing West (which I'm sure had nothing to do with the fact that he faced certain defeat in Eltham). Served as a Minister under Thatcher. Has been about a bit too. Here's the most bizarre bit of his Wiki entry:

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He was for some years a member of the Conservative Monday Club despite disagreeing with their policies on immigration, race relations, Rhodesia and South Africa.

He was also a member of the Green Party despite disagreeing with their policies on the environment, energy and gay rights...no, not really. But you get my point.

Is he the Conservative guy signing most the Early Day Motions?
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Who do you think will win the Vienna state election ? on: August 26, 2015, 05:20:40 am

Yes he is, just read the first post in this thread. He is the one who randomly started trolling about immigration.

I was poking fun at liberals and then you came in and literally just conformed to the stereotype, much to everyone's amusement and horror.

But that's the problem. It's a thread on Vienna state election, not on hifly poking fun at people.

If you want your own thread, do it in the appropriate sub-forum, which is NOT International Election (unless you are an international election).

Quality is sadly declining on this forum since a couple of weeks, there is less and less analysis of elections and more sterile bickering from each side. I suppose I'm guilty of it too, I admit it. I don't come here to read bickering and I hope nobody comes here for the "drama". International Elections was always a high-quality information source and I hope it stays that way.
16  About this Site / The Atlas / Why Dave and the mods are letting the website becoming a new Stormfront? on: August 25, 2015, 06:22:11 pm
Seriously.

Racism is against the ToS. Do your job, everyone.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Megathread: Congressional Vote on the Iran Deal on: August 25, 2015, 06:18:50 pm
Why are House Dems lagging so far behind the Senate ones in committing to a vote?

Less attention on them, so less odds they will be asked about it. They may be committed, but no one asked them and didn't bothered to say it.

Probably less pressure on them to decide quickly, too.
18  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 25, 2015, 06:10:46 pm
A fisherman has taken a video alleging to show a Greek vessel sinking an inflatable boat with about fifty refugees on board.

The refugees were rescued by the fisherman and taken back to Turkey.

Greek authorities denied knowing anything about the event, stating that they have rescued thousands of migrants in recent days.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/greece/11803114/Greek-coast-guard-deliberately-sunk-migrant-boat-in-Turkish-waters-fishermans-film-alleges.html

Boatloads of foreigners seeking to make landfall on your coasts illegally is an invasion. If Europe ever decides to treat this as such, they could stop this boat people nonsense in a day.

So, I can shoot people walking in front of my house, after all, they might try to "invade" my house.
19  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Paraguay successful at denying 11-year old incest victim abortion on: August 25, 2015, 05:55:24 pm
edit: I don't think Ernest is a troll.
I was hoping that no one on Atlas would defend this, but I guess I was wrong. Disgusting.

No real poster did, only a fake troll.

He is not, and he had a nuanced position. Was thinking of Seinfeld.
20  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Paraguay successful at denying 11-year old incest victim abortion on: August 24, 2015, 09:14:01 pm
I was hoping that no one on Atlas would defend this, but I guess I was wrong. Disgusting.

No real poster did, only a fake troll.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What's with all these borderline fascists? on: August 23, 2015, 05:31:57 pm
IronFist, Seinfeld, Jacobtm, etc. There's been a lot of new posters lately who have been very ridiculous and very suspicious. Jacobtm is pro-Trump and suggests Republicans should just become a white party. IronFist just made a thread criticizing women in the military (wtf), and Seinfeld I think made a thread suggesting a test before voting.

Are we being trolled, or are we just getting a dump of posters with really terrible views?

I'm pretty sure than some of these are the same person and than a few of them are trolls made by current, former Atlas and AAD members.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Women in the military: yes or no? on: August 23, 2015, 12:17:00 am
I think that women should not be allowed to enlist in the army, especially in combat roles. Women are always weaker than men, they can't met physical requirements and they are usually completely useless on the battlefield. They are only good in support roles. Men unconsciously always try to help women so they care more about aiding them than about their battle task.

Oh, hi, jmcftm, it's kind of you to reveal yourself by going back to one of your pet ideas.
23  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: August 22, 2015, 06:39:56 pm
Singh comes from a political dynasty in the continent.
It's always welcoming to see somebody of ordinary background have a run for public office.

High-ranking union officials are not "ordinary background". They are quite elite.
24  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 22, 2015, 04:55:29 pm
Can we ban this worthless piece of trash already?

Why do you want to be banned?

That's some first-class sick burn we got here.

Whatever. You've called me a racist as well, so I can't take your comments too seriously.
Seinfeld, don't listen to them.

Sockpupputing is forbidden. You can't use two accounts to back up your views, "Seinfeld". I'm pretty sure usurping the name of someone is against the ToS.
25  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK MPs - 2015 Parliament on: August 22, 2015, 04:40:15 pm
Out of curiosity, are there any Mormons in this Parliament? I imagine there's only one or two, and probably Tories, but I'm just curious.

David Rutley (Macclesfield - Conservative, 2010-)
Chris Whittaker (Calder Valley - Conservative, 2010-)

In the past there was also Terry Rooney (Bradford North - Labour, 1990-2010). And that's all.

There was one in Scottish Parliament, Brian Adam fron 1999 to his death in 2013, for SNP (list MSP for North East Scotland 1999-2003, MSP for Aberdeen North 2003-2011, for Aberdeen Donside 2011-2013).

There is also the UKIP MEP for Wales, Nathan Gill.
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