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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - October 19, 2015 (Official Campaign Thread) on: August 03, 2015, 10:13:28 pm
Yeah I'm not sure what the CPC path to victory would be.  I think it would require a big increase in the NDP vote which doesn't look likely (don't they have a weaker candidate than last time?)  Also I suspect the current mayor of CSL must have significant support there.  

The Conservative candidate is better, I would say. In 2011, they had the editor of an hateful suburban Anglophone newspaper, now they have the former leader of Equality Party and a former CSL mayor.

I would also suspect they have consequeent support in very wealthy and recluse Town of Mount Royal (I mean, they build a fence around the town to be sure than poor people from near neighbourhoods don't wander in).

EDIT: Nevermind, TMR is terrible for Conservatives. Their votes was coming from the independent towns west of Côte-des-Neiges (which was split between Liberals and NDP).
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - October 19, 2015 (Official Campaign Thread) on: August 03, 2015, 03:44:18 pm
In other news, oil prices has started crashing down again and is now under 50$.

Bad for Alberta and for job numbers.
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - October 19, 2015 (Official Campaign Thread) on: August 03, 2015, 03:20:00 pm
It's ironic that although the NDP is touching majority status, only the third place party is fully national in scope.

I wouldn't call the Atlantic, Vancouver and Toronto party "fully national". They are dead in water in most of the Prairies and rural Quebec.
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - October 19, 2015 (Official Campaign Thread) on: August 03, 2015, 02:25:11 pm
(I'm guessing the Tories have largely maxed out their seats.)

The Tories really, really think they can win Mount Royal because...ISRAEL!

To be fair to them, it's more than Irwin Cotler retires. He is hugely respected in the Anglophone and Jewish communities in Montréal and across party lines. I think than if he had retired in 2011, it would be a Conservative seat right now.
5  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Petition to unban Bacon King on: August 02, 2015, 07:34:37 pm
Apparently, people are not following. Dave already took his decision and decided it would be a 2 months ban.
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - October 19, 2015 (Official Campaign Thread) on: August 02, 2015, 06:24:45 pm
Mulcair focused on attacking Harper's econ record, implicitly contrasting his background with Trudeau. Duceppe attacking Harper on values/environment. Trudeau speaking in Vancouver at 1 ET.

Nanos: 31/30/29.

As usual, Nik Nanos is pushing his friend Justin.

We talk of a "pollster" who put the Liberals first long after real pollsters had them in 3rd place.
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - October 19, 2015 (Official Campaign Thread) on: August 02, 2015, 02:07:20 pm
When are the deadlines for candidates to file for election?

Should be September 28th.
8  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Orthodox Jew stabs six at Jerusalem Pride...again on: July 30, 2015, 08:40:44 pm
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu condemned the attack as "a most serious incident".

"In the state of Israel the individual's freedom of choice is one of basic values. We must ensure that in Israel, every man and woman lives in security in any way they choose. That's how we acted in the past and how we'll continue to act. I wish the wounded a speedy recovery," he said in a statement.

What?  Shut up, Bibi.

Not sure what the problem is. That quote is basically him refusing to bow to the Ultra-Orthodox and insisting that pride parades like that one will be allowed to continue and won't be silenced by the violence.

He is enabling Ultra-Orthodoxs by having them in his government. He can't condemn that act or else Jewish Home (whose ultra-orthodox voters approves of stabbing gays) will cause another election.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - 2015 on: July 30, 2015, 06:38:00 pm
Well, calm down everyone. No media reported on it yet, so it may just be a silly Twitter rumour.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Do you support gay marriages? on: July 27, 2015, 01:36:02 am
Of course, I'd leave it to God to decide. And I don't think he's as pea-brained as many of his followers. Love is love; hate is hate. He knows what's up.

In Leviticus 19:17, God tells us that the way to truly love our neighbors is to tell them the truth and warn them that their sins are taking them to Hell.

It's the world that doesn't know what love and hate really are. The world thinks it's ''loving'' to coddle people in their soul-damning sins.

literally two sentences later she says to not wear clothing woven of two different materials. the verse after that, she tacitly condones slavery. another few verses later, she forbids people from cutting their sideburns and getting tattoos.

First of all, you mean ''He''. God is exclusively referred to with male pronouns throughout the entire Bible.

Secondly, there are three different types of Old Testament laws: Moral laws, ceremonial laws, and civil/judicial laws. Moral laws were never overturned; and the prohibition on homosexuality is a moral law - as are, to name a few examples, the prohibitions on murder, lying, stealing, fornicating and committing adultery. We are commanded to obey moral laws to this day.


That moral-ceremonial-civil distinction is written nowhere in Bible, it has been invented by clever people wanting to delete some rules, but not other ones.
11  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Japan General Discussion on: July 26, 2015, 05:28:11 am
Also, there is a bus with flags of UK, Germany, France and Canada (the G7 minus Italy?) for some reason.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama wants to renew the Export Import Bank on: July 25, 2015, 01:02:15 am
The Export-Import Bank turns a profit.  How is something welfare if it actually makes money?

Because it's a subsidy in the sense that the big corporations get lower interest rates, then they would from a private lender. It only makes money if one ignores the time value of money, to wit that the Feds could earn interest on the money other loaned. And in an omega, economic collapse situation, that hits every 10-20 years or so, the scheme could lose a lot of money. Shorter term profits are not a good indicator of the long term financial return of this sort of program.

The corporations aren't getting the loans. Foreigners are getting loans to buy goods from the United States. Every other country does this.

I like how this is supposed to be a valid point in defense. Well, if most countries do it, than it must be right!

The point is than US stopping to do it won't stop the other countries doing it. So, it's putting American businesses at a disadvantage.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Infraction Point System Poll on: July 24, 2015, 09:31:08 pm
It's no good.

It was obviously involved to deal with trolls (by having an objective criteria for bans). It's a failure. It doesn't reduce controversies about bans and it's uch more efficient to directly ban trolls than making the long trip to 50 points when the result is painfully obvious from the beginning.

Add to that the very unequal application (some mods don't use it, the same infraction is worth a very different number of points depending on the mod) and bad memory from their manic use by Inks, I'm not sure it's salvageable.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama wants to renew the Export Import Bank on: July 24, 2015, 07:36:48 pm
And we at AFP will likely lead a grassroots campaign to shut it down.

So, AFP is a front of foreign entreprises, seeking to put US businesses at a disadvantage against foreign competition (who get support from equivalent structures in their own country)?
15  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: How's the communication going now? on: July 23, 2015, 09:31:25 pm
So: How is the communication going over the past 24-36 hours?  Better?  If not, what sort of communication about the decision-making process would help?


Really, this is much better, but there is still issues with a mod (Mr. Moderate) which is just smug, arrogant and condescending in pretty much all threads involving moderation.

If you want communication to be good between mods and members, he will have to change or he will have to go. You can't afford a mod (especially a very part-time one) going against your efforts right now.

EDIT: For the record, my issue with him isn't his critizism of BK (unlike post below), it's rather posts like this, which are arrogant and only throw oil on fires. A moderator should moderate, not exacerbate problems.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of banned posters: Bacon King on: July 22, 2015, 09:29:34 pm
Massive FF, one of our best posters. If any ban was unjustified, it's this one.

There's like a lot to justify it...

Quite a lot, and I still voted FF.

Actually I just noticed I accidentally voted HP in error. Sad

She'll be back once she gets her $hit together I'm sure. Smiley

Good luck convincing Nym, he doesn't sound that way at all...
17  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Petition to unban adamgriffin on: July 22, 2015, 02:19:05 am
Moderators ought to give solid explanations here and stop hiding bewteen "personnal data" nonsense to hide things.
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Forgot password emails on: July 21, 2015, 07:48:45 pm
Same, with same IP.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AP Poll: Support for SSM closely divided; majority prioritize religious freedom on: July 20, 2015, 08:44:11 pm
I wouldn't consider issuing a license to be equivalent to officiating at the ceremony.


Especially if your job is to issue licenses to people according to the law of the land, as opposed to performing marriages according to the doctrines of your church. People keep trying to elide these two.

Some county clerks, saying they now refuse to grant marriage certificates, since that implies giving certificates to gay couples.
Who is trying to elide these two?
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Burma General Election - November 8, 2015 on: July 20, 2015, 05:08:55 pm
All very true, but a note on your source: International Rivers is a near-criminal organization.

Oh, enough with your trolling.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Are Republican Party policies the root cause of nearly all of our problems? on: July 19, 2015, 04:17:10 pm
There is no conservatism anymore. It doesn't exist in government.  It's hard-left vs center-left.

I suggest you leave the Republican Party, left-leaning Repubs have decided our presidential nominees for quite some time now, and are not doing a good job.

Left-wing political correctness is what is hurting the country.

You suggest he leaves the party, are you kidding me? Please tell me how crap like this will help our party.

As that poster has been banned, you won't get an answer.
22  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The Great Nordic Thread on: July 19, 2015, 03:58:03 pm
Another initiative that has been gathering steam is an initiative calling for a referendum on Finland's membership in the Eurozone; in only three days it has gathered 40% of the signatures needed.

What happened to the Initiative about getting rid of mandatory Swedish? Voted down, or not taken up yet?

It was voted on in March in the last days of the previous parliament. It was defeated 134-48.

I suppose TF was for and all other parties against?
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Austrian Elections & Politics on: July 19, 2015, 04:01:57 am
And if this is not enough, the Vienna-SPÖ now even wants all foreigners to have the right to vote in the state election.

It seems the SPÖ is doing everything possible to crash into a wall in a suicidal manner on Oct. 11.


No, SPO is doing to right thing, ignoring the racists. If the racists ever reach a majority, it's time for EU sanctions.
24  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: July 19, 2015, 12:55:07 am
Isn't she an hyper-partisan Speaker expelling Labor MPs as soon they critisize her beloved Tony, anyways?
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - 2015 on: July 18, 2015, 11:48:11 pm

Reading someone say "If you want Canada to become the next Greece, vote for the NDP" in French in the comment section was a bit of a surreal experience.

How come? We get people (or it's one unique Conservative staffer?) repeating in the comments of every news of every news website allowing comment.

We also get another one rambling about the "unacceptable" NDP positions on "Islamic veil" and than only Bloc can safe Quebec culture from assimilation, on every website.
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