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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek election - January 25th 2015 on: Today at 05:42:49 pm
Actually, I believe the National Front also calls for proportional representation and I believe Direct Democracy, which Syriza does.  I'm guessing it would also support many aspects of Syriza's foreign policy, especially avoidance of foreign entanglements at the behest of the US.

Oh, no, don't search that far. FN is anti-establishment as is Syriza. FN roots for all anti-establisment parties, because they hope to replicated their success.
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election - May 7th 2015 on: Today at 05:20:56 pm
No just no. ICHC doesn't exist anymore and as for Respect, the only appropriate answer is LOL.
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Queensland State Election- January 31, 2015 on: Today at 01:02:23 am
One thing that is interesting is that instead of attending a forum in his own electorate ... Newman was campaigning in Toowoomba South and Bundaberg, on margins of 21.6% and 18.2%

Very odd. I can't imagine either of those seats ever going Labor, even in a landslide victory. Maybe he is campaigning in friendly territory for decent headlines?
Worth noting Bundaberg was held by the ALP by Labor or Labor-leaning Independents for the entirety of the JBP years. And Toowoomba North is competitive....maybe there's a flow-on effect from there?

Or than they expect traditionnal Labor seats to swing hard to Labor?
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - 2015 on: Today at 01:01:17 am
Sana Hassania (Verchères-les-Patriotes), former NDP MP (she left over Gaza) and less present MP in the House wants to run as Liberal or Forces et Démocratie at the next election.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - 2015 on: January 26, 2015, 09:13:52 pm
^ He is.

Q for Max: do you think Boulerice might be interested in leadership at some point?

I can't say for sure, I'm too far from Montreal, but I'm pretty sure than if the next leader is from English Canada, he will be most likely Deputy Leader.

I would say he might be interested in leadership, but won't run to replace Mulcair (or if he does, it will be to raise his profile outside Quebec, a bit like Nathan Cullen or Niki Ashton did last time).
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek election - January 25th 2015 on: January 26, 2015, 07:01:01 pm
The more I think about it, the more I believe Tsipras knew exactly what he was doing by immediately seeking support from ANEL. This sent an immediate signal to the world that his government will take a hard and uncompromising line against austerity, and that he intends to be negotiating with Europe from a position of strength.

Yes, exactly. This election was not about gay marriage or Occupy Wall Street, it was about how hard Greece should negotiate for money from Europe. The outcome is best understood as a nationalist government. That is why they do not fear singing "we'll take Berlin", or visiting graves of the victims of German wars, which actions are inflammatory to Greece's creditors. Open and evident conflict with Europe serves SYRIZA and ANEL.

Huh? How is that inflammatory?

I think it is when it takes place on the same day that the new SYRIZA regime is saying that Germany will have to pay war reparations for WWII and that Greece should get debt forgiveness like Germany did after WWII.  By its acts and words it tries to tie the current German regime to the WWII German regime which obviously is seen as provocative by the current German government.

But they can't afford to complain about it, especially one day before the 70th anniversary of Auschwiss closure.
7  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Russia and their strong, powerful confident heroic President's bonds... on: January 26, 2015, 05:15:14 pm
Government is also asking people to eat less, use less electricity and to use beetroot instead of lipstick because going through the crisis is a collective responsability.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election - May 7th 2015 on: January 26, 2015, 05:08:27 pm
19% of people don't know what UKIP's policies on Europe are?

Well, roughly at least 20% of the population is essentially clueless when it comes to politics.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek election - January 25th 2015 on: January 26, 2015, 04:15:40 am
Kalentzi is the place from where the Papandreou familly comes from.
10  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: January 26, 2015, 03:53:13 am
Poll on the fairfax websited with over 25,000 votes has a 92% negative reaction to the announcement.

Admittedly, the readership skews left, but still... I think this might be the 'jumped the shark' moment.

The issue is the Prince Philip or the former defense guy?

Also, Happy Australia Day, mates!
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Queensland State Election- January 31, 2015 on: January 26, 2015, 03:50:06 am
Great job morgieb, very instructive (I would take more, but there is no more divisions!), but I suspect it's a typo?

Burleigh - basically what I wrote for Burleigh applies here.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek election - January 25th 2015 on: January 25, 2015, 11:03:31 pm
Wow... Golden Dawn not only survived the crackdown against them, they only lost one seat. I don't know whether to be impressed, scared or surprised.
Let us not overlook the satisfaction that the fascist party actually lost 50,000 votes in a situation of economical crisis and paranoia against the almighty banks-Troika-Merkel et al. I think we can nearly all agree on this one particular satisfaction tonight.

Being the third (or tied for the third) largest party in parliament is still nothing to sneeze at, though. Makes me wonder, if control the government came down to a coalition with Golden Dawn, would anyone do it?

I doubt it, unless the party doing it wants to suffer a PASOK-like fate. And in the current situation, they are not useful at all.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek election - January 25th 2015 on: January 25, 2015, 10:21:57 pm
Now begins the inevitable clash between the Teutonic troika and people's democracy. My solidarity is with the latter.

Why should there be a clash? Greece should be congratulated with, finally, achieving a political decision to leave the euro and the details should be peaceably worked out. Drachma will be reintroduced and rapidly devalued. EU, hopefully, would provide emergency humanitarian support for a few years and then Greece will resume its growth and development from where it had been in the early 1990s. 

Well, the clash is that Greece thinks that by the vote today they can achieve a debt write-down without affecting everything else (being in Euro, access to capital markets etc etc) while those who hold that debt does not see it that way.  We will see who blinks first.  I implore the troika to hold firm and not allow this. 

But it's not in the interests of Germany. If Greece can leave, other countries can leave and they want to keep France and Netherlands and etc as vassal states.

Do you seriously think France and Netherlands would WANT to leave?

Greece has to leave, because it, pretty much, has no options. It should not have been allowed in, in the first place - and staying in is extraordinarily painfull. It would, in fact, be better off outside. I have hard time seeing the Dutch and French governments wanting to emulate their example for no good reason, though Smiley)

France isn't going well at all and Euro/Europe/Germany/Merkel is a very popular scapegoat.
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek election - January 25th 2015 on: January 25, 2015, 09:55:30 pm
Now begins the inevitable clash between the Teutonic troika and people's democracy. My solidarity is with the latter.

Why should there be a clash? Greece should be congratulated with, finally, achieving a political decision to leave the euro and the details should be peaceably worked out. Drachma will be reintroduced and rapidly devalued. EU, hopefully, would provide emergency humanitarian support for a few years and then Greece will resume its growth and development from where it had been in the early 1990s. 

Well, the clash is that Greece thinks that by the vote today they can achieve a debt write-down without affecting everything else (being in Euro, access to capital markets etc etc) while those who hold that debt does not see it that way.  We will see who blinks first.  I implore the troika to hold firm and not allow this. 

But it's not in the interests of Germany. If Greece can leave, other countries can leave and they want to keep France and Netherlands and etc as vassal states.
15  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Unmournable Frenchies (reaction to Charlie Hebdo) on: January 25, 2015, 05:43:40 pm
I don't think this is an Anglo or a Francophobic thing so much as 'the far left are being terrible' thing.

It's not only a far-left thing. Somewhat surprisingly, when the Muhammad cartoons scandals of 2006 broke out, the firsts to denounce Charlie Hebdo for their "provocation" were often right-wing politicians, with Chirac leading the charge.

but Chirac wasn't calling them racist after they got killed.

Well, by all accounts, Chirac isn't in the mental state of saying anything coherent anymore.
16  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ukraine:more than 750 Ukrainian soldiers killed. Poroshenko invites NATO officia on: January 25, 2015, 05:17:30 pm
Putin is engaging in a naked war of conquest. I don't think anything Poroshenko could have done or can do can stop Russia from attacking his country. At this point, the West has to decide whether good relations with Putin is worth doing business with an oppressive, dishonest regime that violates international law in the most blatant way possible to expand its borders, has killed 5,000 people so far including innocent E.U. Civilians, and and throwing Ukraine to the bear. I don't know why Europe loves Russia so much, to be honest.

This is so mindblowing stupid, that I really don't get why a people with a functioning brain like you could even write it.

It is? Because just last week Mogherini was in a meeting about how to lift sanctions on Russia? The September cease fire has never been implemented and yet EU leaders four months later are still acting like its imminent. Wishful thinking. Putin sees this sort of thing and knows he can get away with another offensive - and he's right.

It have nothing to do with loving Russia

Fair enough, but I don't see how anyone can blame Poroshenko for defending his country.

You can blame him for being incompetent, which is what he has been blamed for in this thread.

No amount of competence in the world can save his country from being squashed under an imperial invader. He could be Winston Churchill but Russia's superior military might would still roll over him. That's the point here. You could take him out right now and shoot him dead and Ukraine would be no better off as long as Putin is determined to widen this war. Why can't we train our rhetorical firepower against the man who is really responsible for this, for once? You won't fight him, you won't seriously sanction him, can we at least speak against him here using our words on Atlas Forum? No, I won't blame Poroshenko. I will blame Putin, because he is the instigator of this. Period.

How much is you willing to sacrifise for Ukraine? This is not a criticism, it's a question. EU could bring full blown sanctions on Russia, closing down the gas trade. But the result in the very short term would be thousands of dead Europeans (not Danes of course) and in a slighter longer short term, a major recession not just for Europe but for the world. Are the Ukrainian government worth 5 year more of a slugging economy?

Europe is not willing at this point to commit economic suicide for a friendly, but somewhat questionable (the Ukrainian government is not exactly the liberal freedom lovers, they play on TV, throiugh neither are they a bunch of Fascist, which they are shown as on Russian TV) and non-allied government. Especially as they still trying a mix of carrot and stick against Putin. Of course if Putin turn out to be Hitler v.2, they may be forced to do it, but honestly it's not really a good idea, to collapse the world economy before you see if other tools work, especially when if you wait a few month the European position are much stronger again.

Sanctions on Russia wouldn't hurt the economy, if the governments were really the ones to run things. They abdicated all powers to speculators and other people with deep pockets, who love Russia because they do business there.

Give government closer control of the economy, forbid speculators doing trouble when they are upset and you'll be able to punish Russia.
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek election - January 25th 2015 on: January 25, 2015, 03:32:45 pm
There is also the possibility of luring a couple of defectors to Syriza and who says Pasok would risk another election. It would be a huge gamble.

I don't think Pasok would do that immediately. But why would they support a party which didn't want to govern with them? After a while I think they'll be tempted to reject most proposals by a minority Syriza government.

I would bet on defections for PASOK MPs, rather than support from PASOK. Some people who were there for the perks of power won't be interested by staying in the rumbles of the party.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - 2015 on: January 25, 2015, 03:31:06 pm
Through, I expect Bloc to poll very poorly in Gaspésie, since the leader of "Forces et Démocratie" is from that region, through.

The Bloc goal of at least 10 seats (and 30 to 40 ideally) isn't realistic.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - 2015 on: January 24, 2015, 09:59:18 pm
BQ leader Mario Beaulieu will be running in La Pointe-de-l'Ile, an NDP held riding in working class/nationalist stronghold in the east end of Montreal.

Seems reasonable.

If I had to pick an ideal non-Bloc held riding, I'd probably pick Manicougan, but Beaulieu is from Montreal, so a working class seat there is a good idea.

No. Manicouagan wouldn't vote for someone which is not from Côte-Nord region or has no link with the area.
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK local by-elections 2015 on: January 24, 2015, 03:20:39 pm
12 UKIP to SNP transfers. Lovely.

Well, 12 votes is more than 25% of your vote, so I would stay quiet if I were you. To be fair to you, that wasn't a good area at all for you and an e-sports journalist (!) might be a very poor fit for Fife.

It's only eight years since the Lib Dems came nine votes short of winning a seat in this ward.

Well, it was in 3BC (before Coalition). Things changed since then.
21  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: January 24, 2015, 01:35:03 am
Well, I heard their hard-right rhetoric, so I assumed the actions went into that direction.
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK local by-elections 2015 on: January 24, 2015, 01:32:44 am
12 UKIP to SNP transfers. Lovely.

Well, 12 votes is more than 25% of your vote, so I would stay quiet if I were you. To be fair to you, that wasn't a good area at all for you and an e-sports journalist (!) might be a very poor fit for Fife.
23  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: January 23, 2015, 09:46:29 pm
are they really reviving the debate over industrial relations? Seeing as it completely sunk a pretty competent Liberal leader, I don't see why Abbott thinks he can do any better...?


This Government has utterly lost the plot. You have to wonder, with all these self-inflicted wounds, if they actually want to win.

No, but they have reached their goal, changing the country. They know ALP is too cowardly to go back on those changes.
24  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ukraine Crisis on: January 23, 2015, 03:16:05 am
Well, at least, they are vocal, so the government can watch them and lock them if they try to do sabotage during a war.

God forbid. The should either be ignored, or made fun of. Nothing more.

The key word is "if they try to do sabotage".
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election - 2015 on: January 23, 2015, 12:54:08 am
Pfft, all of Abitibi is "MaxQue territory" as far as I'm concerned.

The dates are available at the pundit's guide site.

I have good knowledge of Amos and Rouyn-Noranda in Abitibi-Témiscamingue, decent knowledge of Témiscamingue, but dismal one of La Sarre area.

I'm just very surprised than they hold it now, since the Amos area political focus is on Amos mayoral by-election on February 15 (and the two council vacancies).
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