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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Fremont Voting Booth: January 2017 Special Election on: Today at 09:01:13 pm
FOR SENATE (CLASS I)
ONE (1) Senator to be elected.
[2] Republitarian of Utah
Federalist Party
[1] Siren of Nevada
Independent
[   ] Write-in
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian by-elections, 2017 (next event: Toronto Ward 42: Feb. 13) on: January 20, 2017, 04:35:33 pm
She's retiring. Can QS hold it? Maybe a chance for the NDPQ to run (is that still happening)? Gouin is basically La Petite-Patrie, which pretty much the most leftist area in Quebec.

The rumour is than QS is trying to convince Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois (the most hardline student leader during the 2012 student strikes) to run.
3  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: RT banned from posting media on Facebook on: January 19, 2017, 11:29:21 pm
Ah, the Pravda.
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: French presidential election, April 23rd & May 7th, 2017 on: January 17, 2017, 04:50:53 pm
What is the broad opposition to surrogacy in France on the socialist party?

I'm more socially libertine/liberal than French socialists on a issue (bar one)? There's a first.

It's see as using the body of a women like a good.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: French presidential election, April 23rd & May 7th, 2017 on: January 06, 2017, 11:36:00 pm
macron and valls are killing each other....their voters would easily combine for a majority.

Well, that's normal. Why would they combine together? Why someone saying he is a social democrat would combine with a candidate endorsed by various UDI (center-right, LR ally) officeholders, which is saying than the big issue in France is red tape and rules and whose focus is young, ambitious professionnals, which are clearly in the top 20% of incomes. In Austria terms, that's SPO and NEOS. Are they the same?
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Booker likely will be hard to beat in the Primary (esp in a crowded field) on: January 06, 2017, 11:25:33 pm
No, unless they want Trump to be relected.

He is a caricature of Hillary. He has all of her faults, but enlarged.
7  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Canada General Discussion: Trudeau II on: January 02, 2017, 04:13:21 am

Kind of surprised NBNDP even has a hard left. New Brunswick has got to be the least hospitable province for any sort of radical left, except maybe PEI. It has no big cities, no tradition of mining/farmer activism, and no arch-reactionary tradition to antagonize the left.

Well, if you read correctly, there is nothing about the "hard left".

It's just annoying unions who refused a leader who wasn't doing their bidding 100% of time.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The Death of Clintonism on: January 02, 2017, 03:31:44 am
Thank Goodness.  Clintonism has been a huge factor in the downfall of Democrats at the congressional and local levels.

They did something right in 1992 and 1996.

A potted plant would have beaten Bush in 1992 with his approval ratings (he never reached 40% from February forward) and in 1996, Clinton had the benefit of a good economy as an incumbent.  Even as Clinton won in 1996, Democrats made up almost no ground in Congressional and local races after their 1994 massacre and even lost two more Senate seats. 

You can't just throw away the economic expansion of the 1990s-2001 and the Clinton legacy for nothing.

Well, the Clintons were good in the 90's. So was 56k dial-up internet.
9  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: U.N. Passes Resolution Against Israel Settlements, U.S. Abstains on: December 28, 2016, 02:29:33 am
The arguments abour God given land and the return of the messias sound very ISIS-like.

You can criticize the Jews all you want but it's still THEIR LAND. They lived there centuries before Islam even began.

Are you ready to give your land to a Native and take a boat back to England?
10  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Vienna police to distribute 6000 anti-rape kits for women on New Year's Eve on: December 27, 2016, 04:49:46 pm
Oh god, this is because of ceartin muslims, right?

This is because of certain young Arab and North African males who don't have their testosterones under control.
FTFY
Ethnicity is hardly irrelevant in this context, so no need to "fix" it.
... are you kidding?
Are you? Let's not pretend it's Europeans who roam around the streets on New Year's Eve grabbing women by the p***y.

Well, given recent trends (the Roosh V crowd) and the incidents with the "migrants" (those who are criminals should painly be expelled), I'm sure there is plenty of European young men doing that and using the fact migrants are spotlighted to get away with it. As we say, opportinuity makes the rapist.

Rape did exist before Muslims arrived.

     Rape and other crimes on this scale have not been a thing outside of wartime and foreign occupations. Supposing that this is not an issue primarily with migrant populations is fundamentally detached from reality.

Oh, I'm aware, I just mean that's utter naivety to not believe than the local rapists don't use that chaos to hide their actions. Like I said, justice needs to be very harsh.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: ‘Democratic Party Has No Earthly Idea Why Hillary Clinton Lost’ on: December 26, 2016, 09:28:35 pm

See, but Hillary did not lose. She won. More people voted for her than for Trump.

So let's get it straight. It's the outdated electoral college gig that needs to get the heave-ho. Hillary was a much more respectable candidate than Trump could ever hope to be. And she won.

It's the Republicans who think they have some sort of "mandate" or whatever. They're the ones who need to do a reality check.



Can we PLEASE stop with this "she won the popular vote" crap. Neither candidate was campaigning to win the popular vote; they were campaigning in swing states in order to win the electoral college.

It's not a fair argument.

Yes, I don't like the electoral college as much as the next guy, but these are constitutional rules in play. You don't get to change the rules in the middle of a play or reject those you don't like, especially after the fact.

Hillary ran to win a majority in the electoral college and she failed.

Now, should we have a serious discussion about doing away with the electoral college? Yes. Is this a valid argument in favor of institution a popular vote system? Absolutely. But let's not get distracted from why Trump is going to be the next President not her.

Following 2000 a lot of people adopted "lol, it's just a fluke, we did nothing wrong and we don't have to do our own autopsy" attitude, ignoring all other factors that allowed Bush to win. Well, it was a mistake.

Kindly, get over with your grieving process.


Why don't you give me a break. Whether or not people are going through the "grieving process" as you say, it is not your call to tell anyone to get over it. Why don't YOU get over the fact that people are not acting like you think they should or saying what you think they should.

You are in charge of you, not anyone else.

And in my mind and in many people's thinking, Hillary did win. It also happened to Gore. Something is wrong with this picture and I'm surprised that more people aren't outraged about how our undemocratic election process works.

The issue is simple. Democratic establishment candidate never wins.

Mondale, lost.
Gore, lost.
Kerry, lost.
Hillary, lost.

While non-establishment candidates win

Carter, won.
Bill Clinton, won (establishment passed, thinking 1992 was lost).
Obama, won (establishment backed Hillary).

Reflect on that.
12  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: U.N. Passes Resolution Against Israel Settlements, U.S. Abstains on: December 25, 2016, 06:25:14 pm
How does a strong/weak Israel strengthen or weaken my Jewish friend who has full tattoo sleeves and is posting about Christmas gifts on Facebook this morning? Don't see how Israel impacts her livelihood in Columbia Heights, MN.

See, when some pissant sociopath on the right or left gains power and decides that she needs to die because of what her genetic code says, the fact that there's a country of pissed-off Jews with nuclear weapons may just make said pissant sociopath think twice.

And that's an actual possibility in the US?

According to a whole lot of people this year, absolutely. And it certainly was in 1996.

I'm skeptical. However, I'm not only concerned about the US. I very much like the same deterrent existing for Europe.

Would be quite hard to use in Europe, I doubt the non-fascist neighbours would like having to deal with nuclear fallout on their territories,

Then they should probably take care of their genocidal Jew-hating neighbor before Israel has to.

That's the thing - Israel's nuclear weapons may not be an actual practical option in many situations, but what they are is a massive game-changer in terms of balance of power. The world is now forced to care what happens to the Jews, because Israel compels them to by the presence of that threat.

So, if Pakistan decided to use their nukes to make sure Muslims are treated well around the world, would you oppose it?

That's an absurd false equivalency. There's never been an active and partially successful attempt to erase every last Muslim from the face of the planet.

Well, I doubt anyone believe someone will attempt to erase all Jews again.
13  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: U.N. Passes Resolution Against Israel Settlements, U.S. Abstains on: December 25, 2016, 06:02:19 pm
How does a strong/weak Israel strengthen or weaken my Jewish friend who has full tattoo sleeves and is posting about Christmas gifts on Facebook this morning? Don't see how Israel impacts her livelihood in Columbia Heights, MN.

See, when some pissant sociopath on the right or left gains power and decides that she needs to die because of what her genetic code says, the fact that there's a country of pissed-off Jews with nuclear weapons may just make said pissant sociopath think twice.

And that's an actual possibility in the US?

According to a whole lot of people this year, absolutely. And it certainly was in 1996.

I'm skeptical. However, I'm not only concerned about the US. I very much like the same deterrent existing for Europe.

Would be quite hard to use in Europe, I doubt the non-fascist neighbours would like having to deal with nuclear fallout on their territories,

Then they should probably take care of their genocidal Jew-hating neighbor before Israel has to.

That's the thing - Israel's nuclear weapons may not be an actual practical option in many situations, but what they are is a massive game-changer in terms of balance of power. The world is now forced to care what happens to the Jews, because Israel compels them to by the presence of that threat.

So, if Pakistan decided to use their nukes to make sure Muslims are treated well around the world, would you oppose it?
14  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: U.N. Passes Resolution Against Israel Settlements, U.S. Abstains on: December 25, 2016, 05:48:38 pm
How does a strong/weak Israel strengthen or weaken my Jewish friend who has full tattoo sleeves and is posting about Christmas gifts on Facebook this morning? Don't see how Israel impacts her livelihood in Columbia Heights, MN.

See, when some pissant sociopath on the right or left gains power and decides that she needs to die because of what her genetic code says, the fact that there's a country of pissed-off Jews with nuclear weapons may just make said pissant sociopath think twice.

And that's an actual possibility in the US?

According to a whole lot of people this year, absolutely. And it certainly was in 1996.

I'm skeptical. However, I'm not only concerned about the US. I very much like the same deterrent existing for Europe.

Would be quite hard to use in Europe, I doubt the non-fascist neighbours would like having to deal with nuclear fallout on their territories,
15  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Next countries to legalize Gay Marriage? (after Colombia) on: December 25, 2016, 05:19:41 pm
I don't really care about brtd, but my point is, your proposal is pretty much banning trans-community weddings, which is obviously a no-go for most people and reminds of of the miscegenetion laws banning interracial relationships in the USA.
Uh, this is not my proposal, this is reality in Israel already. My proposal is to instate civil marriage for gay couples and keep the rest the same. That's it.

But if it's about Israel, apparently advocating the implementation of same-sex marriage is already enough to make our forum's antisemites fume Roll Eyes

Then again, opposing Israel policies doesn't make one antisemite.
16  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Next countries to legalize Gay Marriage? (after Colombia) on: December 25, 2016, 05:09:38 pm
Yet again, theocracies are not acceptable in the modern world, and Israel being a theocracy is totally opposed to the ideals of most of Israel's founders, who knew enough about religious discrimination to not impose it on other people.
Antisemitism has nothing to do with "religious discrimination" (and the idea that Israel's founders were so tolerant is laughable anyway) and most of Israel's founders were ideologically totally wrong, even if they had the enormous honor to do what G-d wanted them to do by taking a huge step in the history of the Jewish people and creating the State, for which all Jews should be grateful to them. But their ideals are largely irrelevant, as they should be.

As for brtd, who gives a fck?

I don't really care about brtd, but my point is, your proposal is pretty much banning trans-community weddings, which is obviously a no-go for most people and reminds of of the miscegenetion laws banning interracial relationships in the USA.
17  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Next countries to legalize Gay Marriage? (after Colombia) on: December 25, 2016, 04:54:50 pm
Yet again, theocracies are not acceptable in the modern world, and Israel being a theocracy is totally opposed to the ideals of most of Israel's founders, who knew enough about religious discrimination to not impose it on other people.
18  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: U.N. Passes Resolution Against Israel Settlements, U.S. Abstains on: December 25, 2016, 04:53:10 pm
You're very aware any move like the ones you suggest will cause yet another anti-semitic flare in Europe, including attacks.
It's up to European governments to prevent that. Can't blame Israel for that, although I know antisemites always like to do so.

I'm not blaming Israel, I'm blaming Nethanyahu. If he the great defender of the Jewish people all around the world like he claims he is (and so lecturing world leaders about Jewish issues all the time), why does he follow policies that hurt the very people he claims to want to protect?

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Note that's totally Bibi plan, making to rest of the world so dangerous for the Jewish people than they are forced to move in Israel.
I, for one, think one must be "totally" deranged to think this would be Bibi's plan, but ok. I do think it is G-d's plan, but that's something wholly different.

I don't want to sound harsh or agressive, but if G-d plan is to make all Jewish people to move back to Israel, why are you still living in Netherlands? Aren't you disobeying G-d by staying in Europe?
19  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Vienna police to distribute 6000 anti-rape kits for women on New Year's Eve on: December 25, 2016, 04:48:12 pm
Oh god, this is because of ceartin muslims, right?

This is because of certain young Arab and North African males who don't have their testosterones under control.
FTFY
Ethnicity is hardly irrelevant in this context, so no need to "fix" it.
... are you kidding?
Are you? Let's not pretend it's Europeans who roam around the streets on New Year's Eve grabbing women by the p***y.

Well, given recent trends (the Roosh V crowd) and the incidents with the "migrants" (those who are criminals should painly be expelled), I'm sure there is plenty of European young men doing that and using the fact migrants are spotlighted to get away with it. As we say, opportinuity makes the rapist.

Rape did exist before Muslims arrived.
20  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: U.N. Passes Resolution Against Israel Settlements, U.S. Abstains on: December 25, 2016, 04:43:39 pm
Then, you'll have the blood of European Jews on your hands.
Huh

You're very aware any move like the ones you suggest will cause yet another anti-semitic flare in Europe, including attacks.

Note that's totally Bibi plan, making to rest of the world so dangerous for the Jewish people than they are forced to move in Israel.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Harry Reid: The DNC was worthless under Debbie Wasserman Schultz on: December 25, 2016, 04:40:03 pm
DWS had one big job this year and that was to put together the convention. And she did a great job! Hillary got a huge bounce coming out of the DNC in Philadelphia. It was the campaign's fault, not that of DWS that they couldn't hold onto it. To bad DWS couldn't even enjoy the convention because of the barbaric Bernie fanatics.

You are truly clueless.
22  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Next countries to legalize Gay Marriage? (after Colombia) on: December 25, 2016, 04:37:20 pm
Theocracies are not acceptable in a modern world. If Israel wants to become Saudi Arabia 2.0, that's their issue, but they shouldn't expect any support from the West should the Arabs attack.
23  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: U.N. Passes Resolution Against Israel Settlements, U.S. Abstains on: December 25, 2016, 04:35:36 pm
So apparently Obama and Hollande are scheming to impose a second resolution, this one ordering Israel to abide by third-party peace plans, before the term is over.

I'm almost wondering if Obama's goal here is to push things so far that the US-Israeli relationship cannot be repaired even under a new President. It's the only thing that makes sense at this point, besides him simply being a stupid, vengeful person who doesn't understand foreign relations.
It is as if they live on another planet. No one will care about this or any upcoming resolution after January 20, and no one will take any steps to implement them. Meanwhile, the Israeli right will be emboldened, which may lead to the immediate annexation of Maale Adumim after Trump takes office. Great job, Obama!

Then, you'll have the blood of European Jews on your hands.
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: NDP Leadership Convention 2017 (2018) on: December 25, 2016, 03:02:15 am
In regards to other Federal NDP leadership non candidates, when Charlie Angus stepped down from his positions in consideration of running for leader, Ruth Ellen Brosseau replaced Angus as Caucus Chair and Romeo Saganash replaced Angus as critic for Indigenous Affairs.  Both Brosseau and Saganash had previously indicated they were considering running to replace Mulcair.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/angus-leadership-run-1.3863515

Of all the names who had been initially mentioned but not mentioned lately, I believe that leaves just first term M.P Daniel Blaikie as unaccounted for.

I don't know if Saganash was seriously considering. One year ago he said he would leave federal politics at the end of his mandate.
http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/757129/saganash-romeo-quitte-vie-politique-npd

On Les coulisses du pouvoir year in review tv show, two of the three panelists picked for the Political mistake category, getting rid of Mulcair at the NDP convention.   

Last time I saw him (before the 2015 election), he was adamant he would never run for leadership ever again.
25  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: U.N. Passes Resolution Against Israel Settlements, U.S. Abstains on: December 25, 2016, 02:52:32 am
Lmao @ the lefties here devaluing the A-word more and more by the minute. It's almost as worthless as "racist" nowadays. No one cares anymore. Good job, thank you!

I don't have any problem with the US acting and voting in their own interests, just as every single other nation does.
No smart person ever expects the U.S. (or any country, for that matter) to act altruistically. The point is that Obama's foreign policy of screwing over the U.S.' allies and aiding its enemies is not really in the country's interest at all.
The US is often the only major country in the world that stands up for Israel in the UN General Assembly. Don't even try to act like we haven't supported them. Even in this rare instance, this was an abstention.

Explain how angering an ally, destabilizing the peace process further, and putting defunding the UN on the table a month before the change of Presidents helped anyone.

It's hard to destabilize a process that does not exist.
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