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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: BREAKING: All Charges Dropped in Freddy Grey Case! on: July 29, 2016, 10:05:25 am
During that time, Canadaian courts condemned to 6 years in jail a policemen who shot two rounds of bullets on someone wielding a knife.

The first round was totally legal, but due to have been shot alreayd once, the knife guy wasn't an immediate threat anymore and so the second round was "unreasonable, unnecessary and excessive".

Why US courts can't hold policemen to the same standard, that's eluding me, considering common law is the base for both criminal law systems.

Sounds like Candians have no idea either. Just because you shoot someone once doesn't mean they are no longer a threat. If most Candians weren't just so darn friendly maybe they would realize what reality is.

The key word is immediate.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: BREAKING: All Charges Dropped in Freddy Grey Case! on: July 28, 2016, 10:41:56 am
During that time, Canadaian courts condemned to 6 years in jail a policemen who shot two rounds of bullets on someone wielding a knife.

The first round was totally legal, but due to have been shot alreayd once, the knife guy wasn't an immediate threat anymore and so the second round was "unreasonable, unnecessary and excessive".

Why US courts can't hold policemen to the same standard, that's eluding me, considering common law is the base for both criminal law systems.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: NH-InsideSources/NH Journal: Trump+9 on: July 27, 2016, 09:46:13 am
I would say the poll is invalid, as, if you look the PDF, the presidential question is last, after a push question about Hassan ethics.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary Was A Goldwater Girl on: July 26, 2016, 01:42:48 pm
Oh, Goldwater, you mean the socially liberal, pro medical marijuana guy who said than most of the Republican establsiment were extremists in the 90's?
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 25, 2016, 10:48:41 pm

You need a real education and seriously. If there was no socialism involved in government, we'd have a completely capitalist economy with no taxes and where infrastructure was privately funded. I didn't invent a damn thing, you are lashing out at me because you don't understand economics and accusing me of just making up things. Get an education, get an education, get an education. You have been read.

Having been a professor of economics for, likely, almost as many years that you have been around, I am mildly amused Smiley

BTW, if you have not noticed, I am the moderator of the Economics board here Smiley
Careful, AG, remember that Brexit happened and the easily manipulated hate experts now.

"Experts". Economics aren't a science, it's the art of twisting numbers so they fit your narrative.
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 25, 2016, 09:35:06 pm
"We trusted you"

What idiots.....

And of course, these people are likely the future of the party.

I'm pretty sure the few black sheeps won't be the future of the party, as they will become pariahs in the party. Check on the side of the quiet Sanders delegates if you search the future of the party.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 25, 2016, 09:32:06 pm
Is there a chance this backfires on the Bernie or Busters? This is incredibly rude.

I don't think they can go lower in popularity than the VERY low level where they already are.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 25, 2016, 09:23:16 pm
LIE-A-WATHA is coming soon
C'mon, you got to be more creative than that if you want to become a living meme.

Seems he is aiming for laughing stock, instead.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party (UK) Leadership Election, 2016 on: July 25, 2016, 09:26:41 am
If I'm reading what's going on correctly the Corbynistas are presently busily turning the Labour Party into a pure left wing protest party.

That's all fine and dandy but the end result will almost certainly be an open ended period of Conservative government.

I really don't see the point of doing that in all honesty.

I suppose the Hard Left prefers losing the next GE with Corbyn rather than with Owen Smith. Because, let's be honest, does anyone here see Owen Smith beating Theresa May?
10  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: July 23, 2016, 07:57:37 pm
If the Stalinists could stay, so can the fascists. I find them both vile, but there needs to be one standard for all.

That being said, I have seen some openly racist posts that should be grounds for at least suspension.

Stalinists? I don't think we had communist posters since the bans of Snowstalker and Violent Socialist. Through, I don't read all threads and may have missed it.
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Sanchez claims Obama only endorsed Harris because she's black on: July 23, 2016, 03:01:41 pm
Sanchez should call her supporters to vote for Trump. That would be a proper revenge for the injustice done to her.


Why would she do that? She would be sure to lose the election and that would end his career in the Democrat Party. I'm quite sure Republicans don't want her either (well, none of the old white men in Congress will be willing to leave her his seat.)
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: North Miami Police Shoot and Wound Unarmed Black Caretaker on: July 22, 2016, 11:53:20 pm

We need to reform and retrain the entire US police force.

A bit heavy handed, no?

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nearly 95 percent of New York City's 38,000 officers have never fired their weapons while fighting crime

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/11/weekinreview/ideas-trends-don-t-shoot-the-culture-of-cops-and-guns.html


That 95% is not going to be harmed by more training. The fact is that there is a tremendous systematic problem with U.S. police in terms of what police do and what they get away with.

And you know this because you have been on the streets as police officer correct?   If not, I can only assume you gather this insight after watching a few you tube videos and news reports that leave facts out or slant coverage to drive a certain narrative (Baltimore, Ferguson).  



Most policemen are fine people. There is one living right behind my house, too.
However, there is a few rotten apples, thinking they are allowed to do anything. Given how you defend them, I can only assume you are one of them.

Given your reactions on various threads, it's also clear you have no self-control and are the kind of cop that's more than detrimental than helpful to the community they serve.
13  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: July 22, 2016, 11:26:36 pm
I see no action has still be taken against openly fascist posters, not even moderating their posts.

Wake up and do your job, mods.

Being a "open" "fascist" (a term often slung around like a cat of nine tails) does not violate the terms of use per se.

So, you confirm than Dave and the moderators are okay than this educational website becomes Stormfront 2.0?

My use of the term "per se" means that one needs to look beyond the labeling that someone might affix to a poster, and look at the actual content of a given post, which may, or may not, violate the terms of use. I hope that helps.

Is saying than black people have violent tendencies enough of a proof?
14  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: BREAKING: Major terror attack/shooting in Munich on: July 22, 2016, 07:44:12 pm
The killer being from Iranian ascent doesn't make things clearer, as it's likely not ISIS.

Almost all Iranians are Shia, while ISIS is "Sunni" and considers Shias to be heretics. It's like a Catholic terrorist from Sweden, it's unlikely, as pretty much all Christians there are Protestants.
15  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: BREAKING: Major terror attack/shooting in Munich on: July 22, 2016, 01:56:46 pm
We need to quit being politically correct and instead face the truth

Indeed, both islamists/fundamentalists, their far-left enablers/apologists and the far-rightists like you that feast on death of people to advance their racist agenda must be crushed.

All three.

Islam is not a race. In Nice two Albanians are suspected of helping the Tunisian terrorist. They are not united by race but by an ideology rooted in religion – and there is nothing racist in opposing that ideology.

You're right. Let me correct. And let me be clear, my issue isn't than the far-right opposes islamism (which is just common sense). It's pretty much every other part of their agenda.

Indeed, both islamists/fundamentalists, their far-left enablers/apologists and the far-rightists like you that feast on death of people to advance their fascist agenda must be crushed.
16  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: BREAKING: Major terror attack/shooting in Munich on: July 22, 2016, 01:47:35 pm
We need to quit being politically correct and instead face the truth

Indeed, both islamists/fundamentalists, their far-left enablers/apologists and the far-rightists like you that feast on death of people to advance their racist agenda must be crushed.

All three.
17  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: July 20, 2016, 08:54:08 pm
I see no action has still be taken against openly fascist posters, not even moderating their posts.

Wake up and do your job, mods.

Being a "open" "fascist" (a term often slung around like a cat of nine tails) does not violate the terms of use per se.

So, you confirm than Dave and the moderators are okay than this educational website becomes Stormfront 2.0?

Okay, so just because this site isn't as heavily liberal skewed as it was before, it's automatically Stormfront 2.0? There are probably tens of thousands of websites out there more likely to become Stormfront 2.0 than Atlas.

When I became a member, years ago, the majority of posters were Republicans, so that's clearly not my issue.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party (UK) Leadership Election, 2016 on: July 20, 2016, 04:35:10 pm
According to twitter there are 183,541 registered supporters who signed up. That's a solid £4.6 million for the party.

I assume signed up means paying the one time £25 fee to become a “registered supporter”? Are all of them people who joined before Jan 2016?  I wonder which side this expansion of the electorate will help?

No, people who joined before January are full members, no need for them to pay more.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 5th Circuit Court of Appeals strikes down Texas voter ID law on: July 20, 2016, 02:24:24 pm
Assume even if this gets to SCOTUS and it ends up in a tie, it will still only effect TX, LA and MS. So for this election voter ID laws in swing states still stand (although a judge in WI just overturned theirs).

Is that for certain?

Tie means the lower court decision stands, but no precedent for the whole country.
20  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: July 19, 2016, 11:58:03 pm
I see no action has still be taken against openly fascist posters, not even moderating their posts.

Wake up and do your job, mods.

Being a "open" "fascist" (a term often slung around like a cat of nine tails) does not violate the terms of use per se.

So, you confirm than Dave and the moderators are okay than this educational website becomes Stormfront 2.0?
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party (UK) Leadership Election, 2016 on: July 18, 2016, 10:35:14 pm
Owen Smith launched today- apparently has the backing of over 100 MPs, appears to be picking up a lot of steam. Expect Eagle will drop out in exchange for shadow Chancellor+ 50/50 cabinet split promise.

A big Pharma lobbyist, really?

PLP really wants to lose the working class areas to UKIP.

Worked as there head of policy from 2006-2008. Considering he opposed the merger in 2014 involving Phzifer, and is on the soft left of the party I don't see it as much of an issue.

I honestly think someone from South Wales, with his policies and approach is going to do much better than a 66 year old Islington socialist who doesn't sing the national anthem



I honestly think they are both sub-par (and so is Angela Eagle). Labour big problem isn't Corbyn or the PLP or the NEC (but, honestly, all 3 are terrible at doing their job).

The issue is than there is absolutely no Labour MP right now with enough leadership to beat Conservatives right now. Too much people which never worked outside politics (and it's not being an adviser you develop leadership). There is huge structural issues, but, sure, that's easier to point the PLP or Corbyn instead of solving them.
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian by-elections, 2016 (next event: Whitby, ON, North Ward [June 16]) on: July 18, 2016, 03:19:31 pm
Marie-Victorin: Drainville is quitting politics to replace Normandeau on her radio show. Safe PQ. He's the 11th MNA to quit this Assembly.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/politique-quebecoise/201607/18/01-5002140-deja-six-candidats-pour-linvestiture-du-pq-dans-marie-victorin.php

La Presse reports there is 6 candidates so far for being the PQ candidate. Former Higher Education minister, Pierre Duchesne, declined to run.

Candidates:
Philippe Cloutier, philosophy teacher in college, Bloc candidate for Longueuil--Charles-LeMoyne (2nd, 27%)
Nicolas Dionne, negociator for a teacher union and former businessman.
Carl Gilbert, former journalist for the Canadian Press and the (defunct) business news channel of Quebecor.
Catherine Fournier, candidate for Bloc leadership, former President of the Bloc, formerly on the staff of Péladeau when he was PQ leader, Bloc candidate in Montarville (2nd, 28%)
Mathieu Marcotte, lawyer.
Sophie Stanké, TV host, actress, spokeperson of the "Mouvement Montréal Français" (they fight for the primauty of the French language in Montreal), Bloc candidate in Châteauguay-Lacolle (2nd, 24%) and PQ candidate in Laporte in 2014 (2nd, 24%) and in Saint-Henri--Sainte-Anne in 2012 (2nd, 32%)
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Austrian Elections & Politics 2.0 (Presidential runoff re-vote: 2 Oct. 2016) on: July 17, 2016, 05:13:36 pm
Isn't being fascist the ultimate proof that they are a perfect fit for Austria's culture? Tongue
Hahahahh, maybe 70 years ago.. Tongue

That is the reason why people are too soft on a number of issues, because saying "We should deport this refugee (or anyone with another citizenship who migrated to Austria) because he raped a little girl" is considered Racist and it will get you called a "Nazi".

Most of us are okay with deporting criminals, the issue is than their home countries don't want to take them back, usually.
24  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: July 17, 2016, 04:36:32 pm
I see no action has still be taken against openly fascist posters, not even moderating their posts.

Wake up and do your job, mods.
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party (UK) Leadership Election, 2016 on: July 17, 2016, 04:19:45 pm
Owen Smith launched today- apparently has the backing of over 100 MPs, appears to be picking up a lot of steam. Expect Eagle will drop out in exchange for shadow Chancellor+ 50/50 cabinet split promise.

A big Pharma lobbyist, really?

PLP really wants to lose the working class areas to UKIP.
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