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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: German Elections & Politics on: July 06, 2015, 04:41:42 pm
Frauke Petry has been elected leader of the AfD. Does this spell the end of the party's economic liberal wing?

In the long run, it could mean the end of the AfD.

There has been talk that deposed party leader Bernd Lucke - who essentially got primaried for being too moderate - and his followers will now leave the AfD and form their own party.

Why the end?
Will they not basically just be a standard European anti-immigration and anti-EU party now? And a more coherent one.

Because, for historical reasons, an anti-immigration, anti-EU party is unpalatable to 90% of the population.

Well, even if that was true, they would still have a niche in which they were clearly the most palatable party.
I think those historical reasons are becoming just that, history.
http://www.euractiv.com/sections/global-europe/majority-germans-reject-immigration-outside-eu-312282

Well, then, why Die Republikaners never had any success?
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: German Elections & Politics on: July 06, 2015, 03:54:37 pm
Frauke Petry has been elected leader of the AfD. Does this spell the end of the party's economic liberal wing?

In the long run, it could mean the end of the AfD.

There has been talk that deposed party leader Bernd Lucke - who essentially got primaried for being too moderate - and his followers will now leave the AfD and form their own party.

Why the end?
Will they not basically just be a standard European anti-immigration and anti-EU party now? And a more coherent one.

Because, for historical reasons, an anti-immigration, anti-EU party is unpalatable to 90% of the population.
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: July 2015 Federal Special Election - At-large Senate on: July 05, 2015, 05:50:21 am
[4] Dkrolga of Massachusetts
Civic Renewal

[2] Harry S Truman of Indiana
The People's Party

[1] Kalwejt of Ohio
Labor Party

[3] Poirot of Quebec
Independent
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Republicans Are Too Angry About Gay Marriage on: July 04, 2015, 05:44:42 pm
Terms of surrender: We want religious freedom and media to stop calling us haters. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/02/opinion/sunday/the-terms-of-our-surrender.html?_r=0

You already have religious freedom (1st amendment) and media can say whatever it wants (1st amnedment too!)
5  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: July 02, 2015, 04:11:17 pm
James the gay porn spammer Roberts has been banned. Sorry for all those PM's so many of you received. I am putting this up due to the numerous reports received requesting redress.

Thanks.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: June 30, 2015, 07:53:19 pm
I guess people who object to sex before marriage just hate single people too?

what? shua, i don't think you're very good at this whole comparison thing tbqh

You believe that someone can't oppose an act related to sexuality unless the hate the person doing it, when it comes to homosexuality, then why not sex before marriage?  Why there someone just has a moral belief, but you assume that anyone is full of hate and contempt if they say "I don't agree with this thing you are doing, so I'm sorry I can't take part in it, but I hope we can still be friends."

if you have a violent aversion to gay marriage that you do not have to straight marriage, then you believe that gay people are not worth as much as straight people. it's very simple.

a "violent" aversion?
yes?

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Why is it hard to understand that some people think of marriage and gender in fundamentally different terms than you do,
why is it so hard to understand that those people's views are objectively bad? we don't defend people who believe vaccines are evil or people who believe black people are worthless, so why are we supposed to defend people who believe gay people are worthless?

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and that it's not just about how much they like gay people?
spare me

And now we get to the heart of the issue: the people whose views you consider to be "objectively" bad (I don't know why you get to decide, you obviously haven't taken the time to really listen to anyone you disagree with on this) are people you therefore don't believe have any rights.  I find that disgusting and horrible, but I'm not going to try to force "rehabilitation" on you, because I'm not an authoritarian scumbag.

So, we should respect ISIS fighters, after all, they only follow their moral identity!
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Amash on: June 29, 2015, 07:33:02 pm
If he ran for President, I would campaign fervently. He's my favorite congressman, and it's not just because we share a birthday. My hope is that he's young enough to get the role in 20 or so years if the Republican party moves closer to a libertarian ideology (which I think, or at least hope, is inevitable).

I hope he's primaried in the next cycle.  That being said, I'd rather him run for some other office just so he'd leave Congress. He is a radical isolationist RINO

Huh, never heard a small-government, pro-constitution guy be called a "RINO," that's usually reserved for the Lindsey Graham or John McCain types. Although I suppose he is mostly a Republican just because someone without a D or R next to their name has little chance of ever winning. And that's a good thing. We need more people in government who are in favor of limiting the government's influence both at home and abroad, and whether they stick to their team's platform is by far a lesser concern.

You see, being a constitutionalist and favoring limited government in almost every scenario gets you called a "RINO" in the Republican Party.

Don't worry, that's just CCSF. If you're not a foaming homophobe complaining all the time about the GAY GESTAPO and Christian PERSECUTION, you're a RINO, a flaming homosexual, a communist or many of these at the same time.
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: June 29, 2015, 07:16:13 pm
Many of us are bullied by LGBT leftists. Just ask Baronelle Stutzman who had to shut down her business. Does "it get better" for her ?

she absolutely did not have to shut down her business. what are you even talking about?

She was given the choice of providing flowers to same-sex marriages

exactly.

Yes, that's right you always have a choice.  Your livelihood or your moral identity.  Why would anyone complain, they at least get one or the other?   They should just be grateful they aren't stripped of their capacity for free will altogether.

But baking a plain cake, which could be used any marriage, gay or straight isn't related at all to moral identity. In short, if they baker has to ask to know than it's for a gay marriage, I don't see how it infringes on his moral identity (and really, he shouldn't inquire about the private life of the owner).

If I order a plain cake, with no writing on it, I don't expect the baker to ask me for which reason I need a cake. If I take the next step of your argument, if a gay couple orders in a restaurant, it might offend the moral identity of the cook.

If they ask a special cake for a gay wedding, right, you have a point and I stand with the right of owner to accept or decline any special order. But, for a plain cake, no, you have no point, since they make tons of them anyways. That cake would be done in any case, it would just be sold to a straight couple a few hours later. It requires no moral involvement of the baker, unlike a special order.
9  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Japan General Discussion on: June 27, 2015, 03:44:15 pm
How much longer do we give Abe? He's dipped below 40%, and Japanese PMs don't usually recover once they sink that low.

Well, that is one poll.  Most other polls are mostly in the 40s.  On the other hand these polls were from early June before the security bills became part of the public discussion.  I do expect these polls to also fall, perhaps to below 40% so we will have to see what other polls show.  On the other hand once Abe rams these laws through and memories of public opposition fade from the debate Abe's approval rating will recover but perhaps not to the level where LDP-KP can win in a landslide in 2016.  If so LDP-KP in 2016 will gain a few seats versus the 2010 election but not enough to give him the 2/3 majority he needs.  Especially if changing the Constitution might become a topic of the 2016 elections with all things equal will work against LDP-KP.

I think the question isn't about LDP losing, but about LDP returning to its tendency to ditch leaders very often.
10  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Canada General Discussion 1.5: The Countdown Begins on: June 25, 2015, 06:30:37 am
Angryphones threaten to kill Longueuil mayoress because she wants City Council to work in French, in a 96% French city.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/caroline-st-hilaire-receives-death-threats-over-language-comments-1.3127024

Not stated in article, but the root of all that, is the Opposition Leader saying everything he says in both languages, to stall and delay things.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: President of Spokane NAACP outed as white imposter on: June 25, 2015, 01:59:24 am

Written by a radio host endorsing the view than vaccines causes autism.
12  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Christian, gay, family ties to Hamas: I'll be killed if I'm deported on: June 24, 2015, 06:34:05 am
He will deported. This is an electoral year and Harper is doing everything he can so looks "hard on terrorism".
13  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Ban deus Naturae on: June 23, 2015, 06:46:00 pm
He posted that "gem" in the thread about Charleston shooting.

If the shooting actually happened, his punishment should be having to watch racial cuckold porn on rerun forever. But, I'm of the opinion that this whole thing was a false-flag. Way too many things don't make sense about this incident. The kid had a black friend who said he never said anything racist, the FBI "just happened" to be having an active shooter drill on the exact day of the "shooting", and the victim's family members just look like terrible actors. Seriously, how are you going to tell me that their family members were just slaughtered?

Not to mention, this story conveniently checks all of the boxes on the agenda of government control.

Justification for gun control? Check.
Justification for govt control of the Internet ("I wasn't raised racist, I became radicalized online!")? Check.
Justification for defining domestic citizens as "terrorists" ("this shooting was an act of terrorism, it's absolutely critical that we recognize and describe it as this!")? Check.

And to top it all off, the family members of the "victims" are being given $29 million by the Federal government. You seriously think they would give that much just to "help them recover"?

I could be wrong, but this whole thing just seems way too sus.

It's actually worse than all posts who lead to ban someone in the recent years, I think. Mods, Nym, do you really think Dave wants his website to be associated with that kind of messages?
14  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The Big Bad Swedish Politics & News Thread on: June 23, 2015, 08:51:48 am
The Sweden Democrats are rising fast in the polls: 20% in YouGov and 22% in Sentio. Not far behind S and M.

Fuck.

The only way to stop them is to increase immigration levels. What do you think of my plan?

That sound like something the mainstream Swedish parties would suggest.



I assume the joke is that this is what the Swedish government actually did when SD first got into parliament.

Interestingly, apart from 1998 when they increased their vote total by 50% they've been at least doubling their votes in every election they've run in since the party foundation in 1988. Pretty remarkable.

Well, that will stop before the end of the decade, I doubt they'll get 52% in the 2022 election.
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: MW: June 2015 Gubernatorial Election on: June 21, 2015, 08:49:54 pm
TNF
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: June 2015 Federal Election - President, VP and Regional Senators on: June 21, 2015, 08:49:26 pm
PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT

[1] Bore of Rhode Island and AverroŽs Nix of South Carolina
Labor Party - The People's Party

[2] BaconBacon96 of Colorado and Bacon King of Nunavut
Independent - Labor Party

[3] Dkrolga of Massachusetts and Altsomn Stmarken (JoMCaR) of Maine
Civic Renewal - Federalist Party

[  ] Write-in:______________________________
-__________________

[  ] None of the above


MIDWEST SENATOR

[2] RFayette of Iowa
The People's Party

[1] Snowguy716 of Minnesota
Labor Party

[  ] Write-in:______________________________
-__________________

[  ] None of the above
17  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Pitcairn Islands, population 56, legalize gay marriage on: June 21, 2015, 04:33:43 am
Oh, great. The nation of child rape apologists. UK banned people under the age of 16 from the island because it was too rampant.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: South Carolina shooter's photos found on white supremacist website on: June 20, 2015, 04:03:48 pm
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You are incorrect. The media reports all of these phenomenon , and yet we don't wind up with many copycats.


That's just not true:

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/12/the-media-needs-to-stop-inspiring-copycat-murders-heres-how/266439/

That's an opinion letter.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: South Carolina shooter's photos found on white supremacist website on: June 20, 2015, 03:26:40 pm
The real question here is, given that manifesto, will the CCC finally be declared a terrorist group? They indoctrinated a terrorist.
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Once more, gun control opponents... on: June 20, 2015, 03:24:11 pm
What is needed if than gun control people organize in a organisation which is efficient and ruthless the way than the NRA.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of ag on: June 20, 2015, 07:13:39 am
The worst. More paranoid than solarstorm

Pot, meet kettle.
22  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Canada General Discussion 1.5: The Countdown Begins on: June 19, 2015, 09:57:38 pm
Lisa Raitt, maybe? She herself has left the door open. Nicholson seems a natural pick for interim leader.

Raitt would get demolished over his "cancer is sexy" comment.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Once more, gun control opponents... on: June 19, 2015, 07:53:13 pm
We have, for one thing, a thoroughly-dreadful system of mental health.

The overlap between Second Amendment absolutists and people who want to devote more public resources to mental health treatment is virtually nonexistent.

I would say there is an huge overlap between mental illness and 2nd Amendment absolutism. Being obsessed with guns, those instruments of pain and murder, is a mental illness in itself.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Recent University Grads- How is the job search going? on: June 18, 2015, 11:44:07 pm
Bad. Still searching 2 years after graduation. Was employed from only one month in my domain (we parted ways, since it became obvious than my skills and their needs were not compatible at all).
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should Dylann Roof receive the death penalty?/Will he? on: June 18, 2015, 11:36:44 pm
No/No.

I don't believe in death penalty, but I wouldn't lose sleep over it happening to him.

But, it's South Carolina and he is a White who killed Black people. He will surely find at least one sympathetic juror to him.
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