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51  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations on: June 12, 2013, 12:24:48 am
He did hurt the people close of him, apparently.
52  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Do "nice guys finish last"? on: June 12, 2013, 12:23:20 am
Opinion of the phrase "nice guys finish last"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nice%20guys

True or false?
Only true in certain spheres of life?
More true in the US than elsewhere?
Attractive nice guys finish first every time.

It's just that there is some correlation between assholeishness and attractiveness.  Many assholes are ridiculously good looking.

Predictably, ugly assholes tend to underperform or tend to gravitate towards women who were abused and tend to seek out abusive men.

But yeah... our economic system is set up so that sociopaths do well.. and both political parties (but especially the GOP) praise and laud sociopathy as a desirable trait to "get ahead".  It's very sad, really.

Only on atlas do people blame the GOP for "nice guys finishing last".

Well, no. If that thing happens (I have no opinion on the question of the title), that's because of the society. Society doesn't give gaive back if you're nice. Society and especially politics are favoring ruthless people ready to do all to reach their goals.
53  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: are you comfortable using a fast food drive thru. on: June 11, 2013, 11:42:05 pm
No, because it would be awkward on a bicycle.

I once went to a drive-thru at foot, so, not so awkward.

Why not just go inside Huh

If it's late, the inside might be closed.

I've never heard of this, actually.

Exactly.
54  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Holidays Act (Debating) on: June 11, 2013, 11:33:11 pm
Why don't we just leaving this to the regions? It seems like an awfully particularly thing to focus on...

Leaving that to the regions will considerably complicate interstate commerce.

Napoleon: I still want "the Monday following the Super Bowl" to get a name.
55  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Greek government closes national broadcaster ERT on: June 11, 2013, 11:26:45 pm
I'd be interested to see how they did this, since Article 15.2 of the Greek constitution is pretty unambiguous: "Radio and television shall be under the direct control of the State"

I think they are just closing shop for a while, not handing it over to someone else.

They really don't allow non-governmental radio and television?

I think than there is private TVs, but there must be a governmental one.
56  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Canada General Discussion on: June 11, 2013, 11:24:43 pm
Ok, well all 3 parties have a rural base. I was perhaps thinking of the PLQ base in the Eastern Townships, but CAQ has a rural base in the Chaudiere-Appalaches and PQ has a rural base everywhere else.

The PLQ base in Eastern Townships is Anglophones, which are moving elsewhere for the youngs and dying for the olds. Also, French people are moving there, for ski, for the universities in Sherbrooke, for the lakes...
57  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: President Pro-Tempore Activity OSPR Amendment (Debating) on: June 11, 2013, 01:40:43 am
I don't see how to improve it or to phrase it in another way.
58  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: are you comfortable using a fast food drive thru. on: June 10, 2013, 11:28:53 pm
No, because it would be awkward on a bicycle.

I once went to a drive-thru at foot, so, not so awkward.
59  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: President Pro-Tempore Activity OSPR Amendment (Debating) on: June 10, 2013, 11:26:31 pm
Does the term, "Atlasia Boards" appear anywhere else in the OSPR?

No.

As for the second pat of your message, well, it's another question. But I tend to think than your point is correct and than if the PPT is writing in his campaign thread, it's not relevent at all for Senate proceedings. If a PPT is campaigning for reelection, but is neglecting his PTT duties, that's still an issue here. So, we mothball our 3 amendments?
60  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Senate Protest and Analysis Thread on: June 10, 2013, 11:08:13 pm
Why would I vote for someone to represent me if the candidate is living in a foreign country even if we are attached for electoral purposes. 

Well, it's pretty much your choice if you want to vote or not for someone.
You know, many countries have persons in Parliament for representing people in foreign countries. It's only a slight variation on that scheme.
61  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Canadian federal election, 2015 on: June 10, 2013, 11:04:15 pm
Quebec:The Bloc is at a historic low of 17%. Interesting here though, the Liberals seem to already be hitting their ceiling at roughly 41%, and the NDP are already recovering, going from 26 to 28 percent in the last month.

Good. It seems than waves are going quickly in Quebec than elsewhere. Bloc is going nowhere, but it's not surprising given than they are nowhere in medias.
62  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Italy 2013: The official thread on: June 10, 2013, 11:00:52 pm
In English, Grillo insulting Rodota: http://www.gazzettadelsud.it/news/english/48517/Grillo-slams-5-Star-Movement-s-presidential-candidate.html
In Italian, MPs leaving the party: http://www.repubblica.it/politica/2013/06/07/news/m5s_di_maio_basta_gossippari_a_montecitorio-60571133/

And municipal results are quite bad, compared to April.
63  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: NHL Playoffs Pool on: June 10, 2013, 06:10:25 pm
Bruins in 5, then. I think 6, but I can't win if I do that.
64  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Italy 2013: The official thread on: June 10, 2013, 06:03:14 pm
16/16! That's good to see. Smiley

Though of course it changes nothing to the fact Italy is screwed.

Well, M5S seems to be exploding and the left will have another chance to get together at the fall.
65  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Holidays Act (Debating) on: June 10, 2013, 05:50:45 pm
Thanksgiving is a religious holiday and I must say I have issues with removing Easter.
I have a big issue about removing the september Labor Day, as there would be no holiday between July and October. They must be well-distributed inside the year.

I also fear than Section 3 could lead to downright rewrite history and to shove that part of the history under the carpet.

Avrerroës, given my previous post, why Election Days should be an holiday?

I withdraw my amendment, too.

66  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Italy 2013: The official thread on: June 10, 2013, 05:26:23 pm
Waiting for Sicily now....

Doesn't seem better for the right.
67  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: President Pro-Tempore Activity OSPR Amendment (Debating) on: June 10, 2013, 06:03:59 am
Or inserted into the relevant parts of the text in some manner like the two I composed or something similar.

Article 1, Yankee, not Article 2. The article containing a Section 2 called "Definitions"

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Section 2: Definitions

1. Legislation is defined as any Bill, Amendment, or Resolution to a current Act, Procedural Resolution, or Constitutional Amendment.
2. In all past, present and future instances of the terms, a Bill is defined as a piece of legislation that is awaiting or is presently in debate on the Senate floor. An Act is defined as a Bill that has achieved passage into Law.
3. The Dean of the Senate is defined as the serving Senator, who is not the President Pro-Tempore, with the longest continuous service in the Senate in his or her present stint of service. For the purposes of this clause, continuous service begins at the moment of swearing-in in the first term of the stint of service. The Senate may, by a two-thirds majority vote on an ordinary resolution, pass the title, powers and responsibilities of the Dean of the Senate, to the next longest serving Senator (not having been removed from the position by the Senate previously), for any reason whatsoever.
68  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: President Pro-Tempore Activity OSPR Amendment (Debating) on: June 10, 2013, 05:31:33 am
I would think that that the board, includes everything contained within, including child boards.

So, it's not a child board, then, it's a fetus board then, since it's still inside its parent.

Joke apart, I see your point and agree with it. I suppose we will consider only one amendment? (I sure hope so, it would be a waste of time of considering the three).
69  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: President Pro-Tempore Activity OSPR Amendment (Debating) on: June 10, 2013, 05:25:29 am
Oh, great. We have three texts sayings similar things, in three different ways.

Yours exclude child boards, through, like the Voting Booth. Is that a choice or an oversight?

Damn it Maxy, why didn't you tell me you were going to type a text. Tongue

Well, I interpreted your message saying than it could be fixed by two ways as meaning "You showed a problem, now fix it". As usual, I'm bad at interpretation of intent of people.

EDIT: Fixed a double post.
70  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Why did people call HPJ a, "moderate hero" when he was clearly a liberal? on: June 10, 2013, 05:20:08 am
And even if he is not HPJ, he is a troll anyways.
71  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: President Pro-Tempore Activity OSPR Amendment (Debating) on: June 10, 2013, 05:13:14 am
Amendment:

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President Pro-Tempore Activity OSPR Amendment

Article 1, Section 2 of the Senate Rules, Regulations, and Procedures shall be amended by adding a subsection 4, which shall read:

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4. Atlasia boards shall be defined as Atlas Fantasy Elections board, Atlas Fantasy Government board and all their child boards.

Article 2, Section 2 of the Senate Rules, Regulations, and Procedures shall be amended as follow:

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3. In the event that the PPT should be absent by reason of having failed to post in the Atlas Forum Atlasia boards for a period of no less than 5 2 days, or shall have declared a temporary inability to perform his duties without being absent from the Forum, then the powers given by this Resolution to the PPT shall instead be exercised by the Dean of the Senate.


Article 2, Section 3 of the Senate Rules, Regulations, and Procedures shall be amended as follow:
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1. If:

i. The Presidency of the Senate is vacant and there is no PPT in office or,
ii. One of these offices is vacant and the other office holder has been inactive on Atlasia boards for five two or more days or has a declared absence or,
iii. Both of these office holders have been inactive on Atlasia boards for five two or more days or have declared absences,

Then the Dean of the Senate shall be the Presiding Officer of the Senate, possessing all of the powers and prerogatives of the PPT.

I put it at the top, since Article 1 comes before Article 2. It's purely technical, it's only defining the words "Atlasia boards" which are proposed to be added to the OSPR by this amendment.
72  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: President Pro-Tempore Activity OSPR Amendment (Debating) on: June 10, 2013, 04:56:57 am
Shouldn't "Atlasia boards" be called "Atlas Fantasy Elections boards", to be exact?
73  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Holidays Act (Debating) on: June 10, 2013, 04:54:21 am
Well, I'll already put the first amendment, which was already discussed.

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Holidays Act

The Monday following the Super Bowl and days with regularly scheduled federal elections shall be a federal holidays with employees given the day off.

As the voting is done online during three days, an holiday is really not needed. If someone can't bother to log on the Internet during three days to vote, giving him an holiday won't make him vote more.
74  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Same Day Registration Amendment (At Final Vote) on: June 10, 2013, 04:50:51 am
NAY
75  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Atlasia-Canada Common Market Agreement (debating) on: June 10, 2013, 04:49:29 am
I propose an amendment, as asked by Marokai.

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Atlasia-Canada Common Market Agreement
    b. Atlasian citizens living in Newfoundland and Labrador, Prince Edward Island, and Nova Scotia shall be considered as citizens of the Imperial Dirty South Southeast Region for limited jurisdictional and regional/federal electoral purposes.

As the Region is still known as Southeast in our Constitution, I think it's the proper name for international agreements.
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