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51  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Next countries to legalize Gay Marriage? (after Colombia) on: December 25, 2016, 05:19:41 pm
I don't really care about brtd, but my point is, your proposal is pretty much banning trans-community weddings, which is obviously a no-go for most people and reminds of of the miscegenetion laws banning interracial relationships in the USA.
Uh, this is not my proposal, this is reality in Israel already. My proposal is to instate civil marriage for gay couples and keep the rest the same. That's it.

But if it's about Israel, apparently advocating the implementation of same-sex marriage is already enough to make our forum's antisemites fume Roll Eyes

Then again, opposing Israel policies doesn't make one antisemite.
52  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Next countries to legalize Gay Marriage? (after Colombia) on: December 25, 2016, 05:09:38 pm
Yet again, theocracies are not acceptable in the modern world, and Israel being a theocracy is totally opposed to the ideals of most of Israel's founders, who knew enough about religious discrimination to not impose it on other people.
Antisemitism has nothing to do with "religious discrimination" (and the idea that Israel's founders were so tolerant is laughable anyway) and most of Israel's founders were ideologically totally wrong, even if they had the enormous honor to do what G-d wanted them to do by taking a huge step in the history of the Jewish people and creating the State, for which all Jews should be grateful to them. But their ideals are largely irrelevant, as they should be.

As for brtd, who gives a fck?

I don't really care about brtd, but my point is, your proposal is pretty much banning trans-community weddings, which is obviously a no-go for most people and reminds of of the miscegenetion laws banning interracial relationships in the USA.
53  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Next countries to legalize Gay Marriage? (after Colombia) on: December 25, 2016, 04:54:50 pm
Yet again, theocracies are not acceptable in the modern world, and Israel being a theocracy is totally opposed to the ideals of most of Israel's founders, who knew enough about religious discrimination to not impose it on other people.
54  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: U.N. Passes Resolution Against Israel Settlements, U.S. Abstains on: December 25, 2016, 04:53:10 pm
You're very aware any move like the ones you suggest will cause yet another anti-semitic flare in Europe, including attacks.
It's up to European governments to prevent that. Can't blame Israel for that, although I know antisemites always like to do so.

I'm not blaming Israel, I'm blaming Nethanyahu. If he the great defender of the Jewish people all around the world like he claims he is (and so lecturing world leaders about Jewish issues all the time), why does he follow policies that hurt the very people he claims to want to protect?

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Note that's totally Bibi plan, making to rest of the world so dangerous for the Jewish people than they are forced to move in Israel.
I, for one, think one must be "totally" deranged to think this would be Bibi's plan, but ok. I do think it is G-d's plan, but that's something wholly different.

I don't want to sound harsh or agressive, but if G-d plan is to make all Jewish people to move back to Israel, why are you still living in Netherlands? Aren't you disobeying G-d by staying in Europe?
55  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Vienna police to distribute 6000 anti-rape kits for women on New Year's Eve on: December 25, 2016, 04:48:12 pm
Oh god, this is because of ceartin muslims, right?

This is because of certain young Arab and North African males who don't have their testosterones under control.
FTFY
Ethnicity is hardly irrelevant in this context, so no need to "fix" it.
... are you kidding?
Are you? Let's not pretend it's Europeans who roam around the streets on New Year's Eve grabbing women by the p***y.

Well, given recent trends (the Roosh V crowd) and the incidents with the "migrants" (those who are criminals should painly be expelled), I'm sure there is plenty of European young men doing that and using the fact migrants are spotlighted to get away with it. As we say, opportinuity makes the rapist.

Rape did exist before Muslims arrived.
56  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: U.N. Passes Resolution Against Israel Settlements, U.S. Abstains on: December 25, 2016, 04:43:39 pm
Then, you'll have the blood of European Jews on your hands.
Huh

You're very aware any move like the ones you suggest will cause yet another anti-semitic flare in Europe, including attacks.

Note that's totally Bibi plan, making to rest of the world so dangerous for the Jewish people than they are forced to move in Israel.
57  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Harry Reid: The DNC was worthless under Debbie Wasserman Schultz on: December 25, 2016, 04:40:03 pm
DWS had one big job this year and that was to put together the convention. And she did a great job! Hillary got a huge bounce coming out of the DNC in Philadelphia. It was the campaign's fault, not that of DWS that they couldn't hold onto it. To bad DWS couldn't even enjoy the convention because of the barbaric Bernie fanatics.

You are truly clueless.
58  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Next countries to legalize Gay Marriage? (after Colombia) on: December 25, 2016, 04:37:20 pm
Theocracies are not acceptable in a modern world. If Israel wants to become Saudi Arabia 2.0, that's their issue, but they shouldn't expect any support from the West should the Arabs attack.
59  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: U.N. Passes Resolution Against Israel Settlements, U.S. Abstains on: December 25, 2016, 04:35:36 pm
So apparently Obama and Hollande are scheming to impose a second resolution, this one ordering Israel to abide by third-party peace plans, before the term is over.

I'm almost wondering if Obama's goal here is to push things so far that the US-Israeli relationship cannot be repaired even under a new President. It's the only thing that makes sense at this point, besides him simply being a stupid, vengeful person who doesn't understand foreign relations.
It is as if they live on another planet. No one will care about this or any upcoming resolution after January 20, and no one will take any steps to implement them. Meanwhile, the Israeli right will be emboldened, which may lead to the immediate annexation of Maale Adumim after Trump takes office. Great job, Obama!

Then, you'll have the blood of European Jews on your hands.
60  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: NDP Leadership Convention 2017 (2018) on: December 25, 2016, 03:02:15 am
In regards to other Federal NDP leadership non candidates, when Charlie Angus stepped down from his positions in consideration of running for leader, Ruth Ellen Brosseau replaced Angus as Caucus Chair and Romeo Saganash replaced Angus as critic for Indigenous Affairs.  Both Brosseau and Saganash had previously indicated they were considering running to replace Mulcair.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/angus-leadership-run-1.3863515

Of all the names who had been initially mentioned but not mentioned lately, I believe that leaves just first term M.P Daniel Blaikie as unaccounted for.

I don't know if Saganash was seriously considering. One year ago he said he would leave federal politics at the end of his mandate.
http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/757129/saganash-romeo-quitte-vie-politique-npd

On Les coulisses du pouvoir year in review tv show, two of the three panelists picked for the Political mistake category, getting rid of Mulcair at the NDP convention.   

Last time I saw him (before the 2015 election), he was adamant he would never run for leadership ever again.
61  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: U.N. Passes Resolution Against Israel Settlements, U.S. Abstains on: December 25, 2016, 02:52:32 am
Lmao @ the lefties here devaluing the A-word more and more by the minute. It's almost as worthless as "racist" nowadays. No one cares anymore. Good job, thank you!

I don't have any problem with the US acting and voting in their own interests, just as every single other nation does.
No smart person ever expects the U.S. (or any country, for that matter) to act altruistically. The point is that Obama's foreign policy of screwing over the U.S.' allies and aiding its enemies is not really in the country's interest at all.
The US is often the only major country in the world that stands up for Israel in the UN General Assembly. Don't even try to act like we haven't supported them. Even in this rare instance, this was an abstention.

Explain how angering an ally, destabilizing the peace process further, and putting defunding the UN on the table a month before the change of Presidents helped anyone.

It's hard to destabilize a process that does not exist.
62  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: U.N. Passes Resolution Against Israel Settlements, U.S. Abstains on: December 24, 2016, 03:17:02 am
Shame to see so many people supporting a racist ideology against Palestinian and Arab people, so deplorable. One day the world will see the Israel settlement for what is, colonialism, and apartheid against people of a different race.

Sigh....here we go again! The Palestinians have been using terror and destruction to attempt to strike fear into Israelis for years.  They have no interest in peace at all.  Indeed, in the 90s, Israel and Palestine were closer to peace than ever before....but a Palestinian assassin had to ruin it by killing Yitzak Rabin, the prime minister of Israel.  The Palestinians hate the Jewish people...but they aren't the racists, people like me are.  Unbelievable....SMH.  Sad

He was killed by an extremist Jew, but why get facts get in the way of rhetoric...
63  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: U.N. Passes Resolution Against Israel Settlements, U.S. Abstains on: December 23, 2016, 08:45:42 pm
They should be evacuated and bombed.
Ask weed man to do it. But only if you like a mushroom cloud in your backyard.

You're aware any threat to throw a nuclear bomb on the West will probably cause the extinction of the Jewish people? West would stop protecting you against Arabs and there would be en explosion in anti-semitic crimes.

We all know than, internatonally, the best for Israel would be a sign a peace deal and then loudly complain about every violation by Palestinians until it fell down. Created a ton of goodwill towards them in the 90's. Confronting the West is going to deal you nowhere.
64  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: U.N. Passes Resolution Against Israel Settlements, U.S. Abstains on: December 23, 2016, 08:31:00 pm
Settlements are an invasion of a foreign country by Israel. Should France start building towns in Belgium?

They should be evacuated and bombed.
65  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: In Portugal, CDS-PP youth wing wants sexual abstinence to be teached at school. on: December 22, 2016, 04:03:49 am
...okay? Would this be abstinence-only or just adding abstinence to a list of other options? Your translation makes it sound like the latter, which doesn't strike me as weird at all, especially in a curriculum where people learn how to use a condom at ten.

Because abstinence isn't a contraception method?

Is not driving a car safety feature?

Where I come from, sex ed classes teach many things that don't fall under the category "contraception method," such as the right to say no to unwanted sexual advances, the physical changes of puberty, and symptoms and treatments for common STDs. The fact that not having sex is an option for the most prudent and/or morally conservative among us seems like a fairly natural outgrowth of the first of these things, does it not?

I agree with not wanting to teach abstinence as the only possibility, and understand not wanting to moralize by teaching it as the most desirable possibility. But why the hell would anybody object to teaching it as a possibility, unless they were just trying to unthinkingly rack up culture war points at all costs? What exactly are people afraid of? Is the concern that Albert Mohler has put a Taboo from Harry Potter on the word "abstinence," such that if you say it in a health class he'll materialize in Portugal and whisk you away to a Baptist summer camp in 2004?

Well, in my sex ed course, years ago, they asked us to name contraception methods, I named abstinence and the nurse explodedm saying it's not valid since, in the heat of the moment, things happen anyways and is inefficient unless you have iron will, which is usually not the case of teenagers.

Then, that nurse said later than everyone tries having sex with both genders and then choose afterwards, so, I wouldn't trust her judgement 100%.
66  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: In Portugal, CDS-PP youth wing wants sexual abstinence to be teached at school. on: December 22, 2016, 02:06:31 am
...okay? Would this be abstinence-only or just adding abstinence to a list of other options? Your translation makes it sound like the latter, which doesn't strike me as weird at all, especially in a curriculum where people learn how to use a condom at ten.

Because abstinence isn't a contraception method?

Is not driving a car safety feature?
67  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Why are parties that call themselves "Centre" almost always actually right wing? on: December 14, 2016, 10:27:55 pm
On the subject, the French Nouveau Centre (New Centre) is now called Les Centristes (The Centrists).
68  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Conservative Party of Canada Leadership Race Megathread-May 27th 2017 on: December 12, 2016, 03:31:23 pm
I was sorta joking about the translator thing, but it was done in 1993, maybe '97 for Manning. To me a bilingual leader is non-negotiable. That's partially why after this debate I decided to switch to Scheer.

Wasn't really an issue because Reform had almost no candidate east of the Ontario. Most of them only got Alliance candidates in 2000.
69  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: NDP Leadership Convention 2017 (2018) on: December 11, 2016, 06:23:36 pm
"Jesus announces run for NDP Leadership"

.... Does he speak French fluently? No? DISQUALIFIED.

Speaking some amount of French is important, that's clear, but to be completely disqualifying or qualifying candidates as Leader based on that sole attribute, even if it is important, is reckless.

Canada is a bilingual country. Do you wish for Quebec independance? That would the result of yout utterly ignorant proposal.
70  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: December 2016 House Election on: December 11, 2016, 05:21:10 pm
[8] 1184AZ (Federalist-FL)
[2] Cashew (Labor-CA)
[10] Enduro (Federalist-PA)
[5] NeverAgain (Labor-VA)
[4] Peebs (Labor-NC)
[7] Republitarian/Goldwater (Federalist-UT)
[12] Santander (Federalist-AL)
[11] Secure America/Heisenberg (Federalist-NM)
[1] Siren (Independent-PR)
[6] Southern Gothic (Labor-LA)
[9] tedbessell (Federalist-CA)
[3] wolfentoad66 (Labor-CA)
71  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Fremont December Senate Election on: December 11, 2016, 05:18:12 pm
[1]LLR (POP-CO)
[2]Potus (FED-CA)
[3]Wulfric (UA-AZ)
72  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: NDP Leadership Convention 2017 (2018) on: December 10, 2016, 09:21:06 pm
Having a bilingual leader in all parties was a most for the 3 last decades, I don't see why that would change (unless we want to give credibility to Anglophones public servants protesting than bilinguism is fascism and discriminatory).

You want to become Canada PM? Take intensive French courses right now.
73  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Beet's switching allegiances from D to R? on: December 10, 2016, 03:52:47 am
Who cares, we will all die from Ebola soon (according to Beet).
74  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: 2017 British Columbia election on: December 09, 2016, 04:01:57 pm
Well, such results are normal with such a loaded question.
75  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Conservative Party of Canada Leadership Race Megathread-May 27th 2017 on: December 08, 2016, 04:48:10 pm
No translators. If the Conservative leader isn't able to debate in French, he shouldn't be invited to French debates.
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