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26  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: September 22, 2014, 10:29:26 am
Any Liberal want to justify why we're destroying the Australian way of life for 99.999% of the population to 'defend the Australian way of life' from 0.001%?

Seriously, I get it. terrorists are very bad. But trading in the rights of the vast, vast majority of the country when we have already given various agencies a sh**tload of power, effectively, to combat a couple of hundred idiots is deeply offensive.

I know that the ALP is broadly supporting this, and they're disgusting for doing so, but this is basically Shorten not being brave enough to put more than a hair between him and the PM on 'national security'. Even so, it's a fundamentally coalition led campaign, and it is absolutely disgraceful.

Liberal my arse.
27  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish independence referendum results thread (Sept 18, 2014) on: September 19, 2014, 09:11:24 am
I posted this to fb, but it works here too.

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I'm feeling vaguely heartbroken, and I had nothing to gain or lose.

A dark part of me says that I did have something to gain - English pain - which is a drug I can't get enough of. But realistically, I was approaching this from a reasonably unaffected place.

But, stupidly, I allowed myself some hope. I really did hope that Scotland would be independent, not out of hatred for the Poms, or love for the Scots, but out of a desire to see something radical happen. Something that wasn't just 'economically sensible', or realist, or establishment sanctioned. Something that proved democracy was still alive, and that the average man or woman on the street had a voice, and that it mattered. A voice with the future in mind, a voice free of fear, a voice for equity, for community, and for freedom.

Not freedom for the Scots, but freedom for the people who want to be able to have their future in their own hands.

I know this was idealistic, and I know the Scotland is still part of one of the strongest democracies in the world - although Britain does have real issues with civil liberties, and there is, at least for now, a significant list of concerns with how democracy truly works in the UK - but the status quo is not particularly satisfactory.

Maybe independence in Scotland would change absolutely nothing for the world at large, and I was unreasonable, maybe presumptuous, maybe offensive, when I put more on this referendum than simply yes or no to a question about where Scotland's future would lie.

I wish the people of Scotland well, and can't argue with their decision, it was a decisive result. But I can still be disappointed with it, not because there won't be a new flag for the UK (and perhaps Australia), not because there won't be another country in the world, but because for once there was a chance for change to the current world order that didn't involve terror, that wasn't based on market capitalism, that wasn't about the delicate balance of global diplomacy, but was simply about one small country on the other side of the world choosing a new road without guns or bombs, fiscal bullying or lesser evil decision making.
28  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish independence referendum results thread (Sept 18, 2014) on: September 19, 2014, 04:18:13 am
Dundee looks off.

Short version of my view on the results: No has not only won, but won by enough to avoid too much dispute. It's a clean with for no, and while it's remarkable that 44.7% of Scots were prepared to leave the Union, it puts the issue to bed for a while in a way that a 52% win would not have.
29  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish independence referendum results thread (Sept 18, 2014) on: September 18, 2014, 09:39:40 pm
Nothing is certain, other than that the 'yes' campaign has already won relative to expectations. Anything over 45% and the 'no' will have a soulless victory, and certainly not a commanding voice for the status quo.
30  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish Independence Referendum - 18 September 2014 on: September 18, 2014, 08:23:17 am
Why is the Obama's dog tweeting about Scottish independence?
31  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Most iconic sig in Atlas history? on: September 16, 2014, 10:56:42 pm
Dibble's is probably the all time classic.
32  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who was President when your parents were born? on: September 16, 2014, 04:19:55 am
Dad: Chifley and Truman
Mum: Menzies and Truman
33  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: September 14, 2014, 10:13:56 am
I think the key difference is that the Liberals *are* campaigning on the East West link this time around - so campaign on it without signing contracts weeks out from the election.

Not about to defend Labor, just purely a point about the Liberals, not even about the E/W link itself. If it's a major part of your campaign, let the people vote before you sign off on it.

34  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish independence referendum prediction thread on: September 14, 2014, 09:56:39 am
No 51.7%

Turnout 86.8%

No resignations
35  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Scottish independence - The Official Atlas Forum mock referendum on: September 14, 2014, 09:50:11 am
Yes. Scotland is an individual nation, and should be an independent country.
36  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: August 16, 2014, 05:34:37 am
Just to add to the liveable and friendly accolades, Melbourne wins out as sleepiest city in the world...

...wait, that doesn't sound right. Maybe 'most well rested'?




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Hmm, what else is in the news...

https://newmatilda.com/2014/08/16/abbott-brands-almost-half-scottish-population-enemies-freedom

37  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: August 15, 2014, 12:36:09 am
In other news, the World's Most Liveable City (TM)(C) is now also The World's Friendliest City.

(tied with Auckland ew)

http://www.cntraveler.com/daily-traveler/2014/08/the-2014-friendliest-and-unfriendliest-cities-in-the-world
38  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Your governors during your lifetime on: August 11, 2014, 07:20:32 am
The Reverend Dr Davis McCaughey AC 86-92
The Hon. Richard McGarvie AC QC 92-97
The Hon. Sir James Gobbo AC CVO QC 97-00
Mr. John Landy AC CVO MBE 01-06
Professor David de Kretser AC 06-11
The Hon. Alex Chernov AC QC 11-present

....

As for Premiers:

John Cain II 82-90
Joan Kirner 90-92
Jeff Kennett 92-99
Steve Bracks 99-07
John Brumby 07-10
Ted Baillieu 10-13
Denis Napthine 13-present
39  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Any politicians in your family? on: August 11, 2014, 07:09:49 am
Great-Great Grandpa was Mayor of Port Melbourne a long while back
40  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Denver gay bar in trouble for not letting in gay guy on: August 10, 2014, 05:41:00 pm
There's a bar here in Melbourne, The Laird, which is essentially a bear bar. One night a week they have a you-must-be-wearing-at-least-one-significant-item-of-leather night, and has a special right along with another bar to have male-only nights.

I've never been to either a male-only night there or a leather night, but on the other nights I've never seen a woman there, nor a drag queen. People tend to be fairly self selective I think.

One of the biggest issues a lot of the other gay bars have is hen's nights. The only gay bar in Canberra is usually about half straight, due to hen's nights and straight guys hoping to pick them up, and it's a bit of an issue that the one place where you have the ability to be in a space that is supposed to be free of the complications of sexuality all of a sudden isn't. That said, people who are discriminated against should attempt to avoid discriminating themselves.
41  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: July 29, 2014, 01:23:57 pm
In good news, the entire run of Frontline is now available on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4nQ-VbPDNeEflv_pUGXr1A
42  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: How do you pronounce the word "cretin"? on: July 26, 2014, 11:23:33 pm
cret-tin
43  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: FIFA 2014 World Cup - Official Discussion Thread on: July 22, 2014, 05:58:01 am
Asia hasn't deserved more spots, in a 32-team competition, but it certainly doesn't deserve 1.5.

44  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: FIFA 2014 World Cup - Official Discussion Thread on: July 21, 2014, 11:18:05 pm
There has to be some reckoning for the fact that this is a global event more than a sporting competition. Proposing 1.5 Asian teams is ridiculous.

The AFC's level of play is hardly the same as UEFA's, which is why despite having six times more people, the AFC has one third of the places. It is already hugely balanced in favour of continents with strong history in the competition.

Discussing this like the status quo is the neutral mark is pretty ridiculous, when you think about it. The current system is already hugely weighted towards UEFA and CONMEBOL - as it should be - and any further advantage Europe and South America get would be ridiculous.

If you were to do it by population, Europe would get 3.5 spots. Seems to me that having almost half of the total is beyond a reasonable compromise for Europe's performance in rankings.
45  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: FIFA 2014 World Cup - Official Discussion Thread on: July 19, 2014, 07:12:47 pm
Three spots for three fifths of the world's population is ridiculous.

Around about page 25 I proposed a way of doing the 40-team comp that has been muttered about, but 42.

Hosts and reigning champions qualify straight into the groups, other 40 go into 1 v 1 plyoffs, the twenty winners going to the group stage, then the losers play each other 1 v 1 with the ten winners also going to the groups. 32 countries in the groups and everything runs as it does now from there.

15 UEFA
8 CAF
6 AFC
5 CONMEBOL
5 CONCACAF
1 OFC

or 15.5 UEFA, 7.5 CAF, 6.5 AFC, 5.5 CONMEBOL, 4.5 CONCACAF, 0.5 OFC.
46  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Malaysian Airlines 777 shot down over Ukraine, 295 people on board. on: July 18, 2014, 09:55:12 am
Just heard on the radio that organisers of the candlelight vigil for the AIDS conference are quintupling their attendance expectations based on public enquiries to 100,000+. I'm likely to go myself tbh, and I'd like to say it had nothing to do with the plane but it probably made the difference between 'aware but it'll be cold and miserable' to 'probably attending' :p
47  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Malaysian Airlines 777 shot down over Ukraine, 295 people on board. on: July 17, 2014, 11:14:48 pm
Understandably, mass panic at an airport would be horrific and isn't necessary when everyone can access the news in their hands anyway, with the context an article provides.
48  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Malaysian Airlines 777 shot down over Ukraine, 295 people on board. on: July 17, 2014, 09:15:15 pm
Also MH is offering all flights free until July 25th. They seem done for.

Source? I'm going to Langkawi.
49  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Malaysian Airlines 777 shot down over Ukraine, 295 people on board. on: July 17, 2014, 09:11:48 pm
Why such a strong preference for Iraq over Iran?
50  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Malaysian Airlines 777 shot down over Ukraine, 295 people on board. on: July 17, 2014, 08:20:04 pm
Reports suggesting certainly many, and possibly up to and beyond 100, of the passengers were en route to Melbourne. Again, certainly many and possibly up to and beyond 100, were delegates for the World AIDS conference starting this weekend, including very senior researchers and advocates Sad

Edit: The Australian says 108 delegates.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/delegates-to-melbourne-aids-summit-on-doomed-flight-mh17/story-e6frg6nf-1226993197572
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