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26  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Denver gay bar in trouble for not letting in gay guy on: August 10, 2014, 05:41:00 pm
There's a bar here in Melbourne, The Laird, which is essentially a bear bar. One night a week they have a you-must-be-wearing-at-least-one-significant-item-of-leather night, and has a special right along with another bar to have male-only nights.

I've never been to either a male-only night there or a leather night, but on the other nights I've never seen a woman there, nor a drag queen. People tend to be fairly self selective I think.

One of the biggest issues a lot of the other gay bars have is hen's nights. The only gay bar in Canberra is usually about half straight, due to hen's nights and straight guys hoping to pick them up, and it's a bit of an issue that the one place where you have the ability to be in a space that is supposed to be free of the complications of sexuality all of a sudden isn't. That said, people who are discriminated against should attempt to avoid discriminating themselves.
27  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion on: July 29, 2014, 01:23:57 pm
In good news, the entire run of Frontline is now available on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4nQ-VbPDNeEflv_pUGXr1A
28  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: How do you pronounce the word "cretin"? on: July 26, 2014, 11:23:33 pm
cret-tin
29  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: FIFA 2014 World Cup - Official Discussion Thread on: July 22, 2014, 05:58:01 am
Asia hasn't deserved more spots, in a 32-team competition, but it certainly doesn't deserve 1.5.

30  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: FIFA 2014 World Cup - Official Discussion Thread on: July 21, 2014, 11:18:05 pm
There has to be some reckoning for the fact that this is a global event more than a sporting competition. Proposing 1.5 Asian teams is ridiculous.

The AFC's level of play is hardly the same as UEFA's, which is why despite having six times more people, the AFC has one third of the places. It is already hugely balanced in favour of continents with strong history in the competition.

Discussing this like the status quo is the neutral mark is pretty ridiculous, when you think about it. The current system is already hugely weighted towards UEFA and CONMEBOL - as it should be - and any further advantage Europe and South America get would be ridiculous.

If you were to do it by population, Europe would get 3.5 spots. Seems to me that having almost half of the total is beyond a reasonable compromise for Europe's performance in rankings.
31  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: FIFA 2014 World Cup - Official Discussion Thread on: July 19, 2014, 07:12:47 pm
Three spots for three fifths of the world's population is ridiculous.

Around about page 25 I proposed a way of doing the 40-team comp that has been muttered about, but 42.

Hosts and reigning champions qualify straight into the groups, other 40 go into 1 v 1 plyoffs, the twenty winners going to the group stage, then the losers play each other 1 v 1 with the ten winners also going to the groups. 32 countries in the groups and everything runs as it does now from there.

15 UEFA
8 CAF
6 AFC
5 CONMEBOL
5 CONCACAF
1 OFC

or 15.5 UEFA, 7.5 CAF, 6.5 AFC, 5.5 CONMEBOL, 4.5 CONCACAF, 0.5 OFC.
32  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Malaysian Airlines 777 shot down over Ukraine, 295 people on board. on: July 18, 2014, 09:55:12 am
Just heard on the radio that organisers of the candlelight vigil for the AIDS conference are quintupling their attendance expectations based on public enquiries to 100,000+. I'm likely to go myself tbh, and I'd like to say it had nothing to do with the plane but it probably made the difference between 'aware but it'll be cold and miserable' to 'probably attending' :p
33  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Malaysian Airlines 777 shot down over Ukraine, 295 people on board. on: July 17, 2014, 11:14:48 pm
Understandably, mass panic at an airport would be horrific and isn't necessary when everyone can access the news in their hands anyway, with the context an article provides.
34  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Malaysian Airlines 777 shot down over Ukraine, 295 people on board. on: July 17, 2014, 09:15:15 pm
Also MH is offering all flights free until July 25th. They seem done for.

Source? I'm going to Langkawi.
35  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Malaysian Airlines 777 shot down over Ukraine, 295 people on board. on: July 17, 2014, 09:11:48 pm
Why such a strong preference for Iraq over Iran?
36  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Malaysian Airlines 777 shot down over Ukraine, 295 people on board. on: July 17, 2014, 08:20:04 pm
Reports suggesting certainly many, and possibly up to and beyond 100, of the passengers were en route to Melbourne. Again, certainly many and possibly up to and beyond 100, were delegates for the World AIDS conference starting this weekend, including very senior researchers and advocates Sad

Edit: The Australian says 108 delegates.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/delegates-to-melbourne-aids-summit-on-doomed-flight-mh17/story-e6frg6nf-1226993197572
37  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Happy Birthday, Angela Merkel. on: July 17, 2014, 06:15:38 pm
Awkward...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsTVdrGK1Ws
38  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Malaysian Airlines 777 shot down over Ukraine, 295 people on board. on: July 17, 2014, 04:57:01 pm
It's a somewhat unusual fight for Australians to take, tbh. The vast majority would either go through the UAE or Singapore; the flight via KL is on the most expensive side and most who choose to pay premium prices fly Qantas, Emirates, or Singapore.

That said, the corridor as a whole would be very Australian-heavy, so this may indeed by a low load of Australians relative to other flights.

Just looked it up, KLM (which was codesharing with Malaysian) is the second most expensive on the route right now for flights in a few weeks, not sure if that is a usual circumstance or not. Qatar and Qantas both less than a third of the price
39  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Malaysian Airlines 777 shot down over Ukraine, 295 people on board. on: July 17, 2014, 04:38:30 pm
Genuinely shocked to see so many Aussies aboard. And absolutely zero Americans - unless they make up the bulk of the unconfirmed?
40  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Hong Kong vs. Singapore: Where would you rather visit? on: July 17, 2014, 01:19:57 pm
I have family in Singapore, so there :p
41  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Malaysian Airlines 777 crashes in Ukraine on: July 17, 2014, 10:40:14 am
Cue the conspiracy theories in 3...2...
42  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: FIFA 2014 World Cup - Official Discussion Thread on: July 17, 2014, 09:01:28 am
Australia's fallen to 76... goodo, we're worse than Cape Verde, Oman, Israel, Libya, Uzbekistan, and Jordan...?

Losing games against quality opposition (Chile, Spain, and the Netherlands) shouldn't push you below fricking Cape Verde tyvm.
43  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Nobody Wants To Host The 2022 Olympics on: July 15, 2014, 11:30:30 pm
Pretty much still not a problem, other than the Arts Centre.
44  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Nobody Wants To Host The 2022 Olympics on: July 15, 2014, 07:48:36 am
I agree that the seating is inadequate for certain events, but it is adequate for a short-notice hosting.

If it was with the full seven years build up, you'd do it quite significantly differently, of course. MSAC would only be used for the aquatics, for example.

All venues are accessible, this is Australia Tongue
45  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: The FIFA World Cup tipping competition on: July 14, 2014, 11:14:33 am
Bye Lewis, I'll remember you when the wind lows just right...

Sad

Also well done Cris.
46  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Nobody Wants To Host The 2022 Olympics on: July 14, 2014, 11:06:26 am
There's very little we'd have to do, though, to meet the IOC's requirements within a year for acceptable. Two plus years for perfect games. Here's a rough plan for a short-notice games, with an eye to avoiding significant construction work:

Core Precinct

MCG: Athletics, Ceremonies. Main stadium of the 1956 Olympics and 2006 Commonwealth Games. 100,000 capacity, no upgrades required other than laying the track. 3-6 months

Melbourne Park: Tennis (final at Margeret Court Arena (3rd show court Australian Open, 6,000 capacity),  Track Cycling (MPV/Hisense Arena, held track world championships a couple of years ago, 2nd show court for the Australian Open, 10,500 capacity), Gymnastics (Rod Laver Arena, did the job during 2006 Commonwealth games, main show court for the Australian Open, 15,000 capacity). Obviously the cycling track and Gymnastics floors need to be added, but no other work required. 3-6 months.

The Glasshouse/Westpac Centre: Water Polo (was the 1956 Olympic Pool with 7,000 capacity, then the pool was covered over and it's used as the HQ of the Victorian Institute of Sport and for an AFL club. Not sure what the current status is, but a pool could be re-added easily enough, and the stands can hold 7,000.) Moderate work required, 6-12 months.

Melbourne Rectangular Stadium/AAMI Park: Organisational HQ,  Holding area, Medical Centre for main precinct, Auxiliary Media Centre. Capacity 33,000, no work required.

Punt Road Oval: Athletics warm-up area, currently used by an AFL team. Have to lay a track, 3-6 months.

Albert Park Precinct (moderately walkable from MCG, but not exceptionally so. Good transport links though)

Melbourne Sports and Aquatics Centre: Swimming, Synchronised Swimming (Outdoor Pool built for the 2006 Commonwealth Games, also used for the World Championships a couple of years later, Capacity 3,000 expandable to about 4,500). No work required, about 12 months for the expansion); Diving (Indoor Pool, also used as swimming warm-up pool, capacity 1,800, no work required); Volleyball (Show court, 1,800 capacity, no work required; along with one of the sports halls, limited spectator capacity (for four active courts, taking away space for cameras etc,, about 100 per court); media centre (three other sports halls, could fit about... 3-4000 journalists, 0-3 months). Also has medical facilities.

The Pits Building: Communications centre (short walk from MSAC, and used annually for the F1 grand prix. 3-6 months

Lakeside Stadium: This isn't a perfect fit, but could be used for outdoor shooting, capacity 14,000. 3-6 months work.

Temporary stands, used for the Grand Prix, can fit tens of thousands. Using about half of them around the lake for Triathlon, open air swimming, and Beach Volleyball. Triathlon course basically Albert Park Lake to St. Kilda beach to Albert Park beach to Albert Park Lake) 0-3 months for all but the Beach Volleyball, which could require either a new building (18-24 months) or a temporary venue that shared the stands used for other events (6-12 months)

Port Phillip: Just a short walk from the lake is the top of Port Phillip, which could (as it did in 1956) easily accomodate the sailing.

City Precinct (very easily accessible from Albert Park and Core precincts)

Docklands Stadium: Rugby Sevens, Football final, auxiliary medical centre, . Capacity 56,000, no work required.

The Icehouse: Currently the National Ice Centre, melt the ice and use it for Handball, Capacity 1,000, 6 months required.

Melbourne Exhibition Centre: Boxing, Taekwondo, and Judo. Capacity in the thousands, hosted Badminton and Weightlifting at the 2006 Commonwealth games. 3-6 months required.

Melbourne Convention Centre: IOC HQ, no work required.

Federation Square/Birrarung: Olympic plazas, link the Core precinct to the CBD. 3-6 months required.

Botanic Gardens/King's Domain: Secondary gathering site, Indoor shooting (Sidney Myer Music Bowl, with temporary stuff added, capacity 2,000)

Arts Centre: Weightlifting and Fencing, capacity across various halls about 5,000, little work required. Not an ideal venue but would do the job well enough. 3-6 months.

Festival Hall: OK, so this place is oldddd, but it is useable for, say, Table Tennis with a capacity of about a thousand. Alternatively give it quite a bit of work and the site is big enough for it being a 3,000 capacity. 3-18 months required.

Werribee Precinct About a 30 minute drive from the other precincts.

National Equestrian Centre: Equestrian Events. 0-12 months.

Werribee Park: Archery. Would need to build temporary stands, 3-6 months; Golf at the Werribee Park Golf Club (not the best course, but better to keep precinctss to a minimum).

Werribee South: Somewhere around here, build the rowing/canoe/kayak course. Maybe the BMX track too At the moment it's largely market gardens but there is plenty of useable land. 2+ years. In the emergency scenario, could need to outsource these to Sydney (vom), especially the whitewater events. Rowing could be held at Albert Park Lake I think, not sure if it's long enough but it wouldn't be far off, although it'd be a very windy/open course.

There is plenty of land around here for the Athlete's village too, if one was to be built. Although if you had time to build and Athlete's village you'd do it over the Jolimont rail yards between the MCG and Federation Square. It's actually the only area that would require significant work in the bid other than the rowing/canoe/kayak venue.

Parkville Precinct Although walkable from the city and MCG, not particularly so.

Princes Park: Football preliminaries, capacity 30,000 plus.

State Netball and Hockey Centre: Basketball (except final, courts capacity 3,000), Hockey (fields, capacity 1,000). No work required. Could add another couple of courts though.

Melbourne University: Weightlifting, Wrestling (yeah, this is a stretch, but doable).

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Mountain Biking in the Dandenongs, Badminton squeezing in somewhere or other - maybe the Convention Centre or somewhere in Geelong Tongue

47  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Nobody Wants To Host The 2022 Olympics on: July 14, 2014, 12:44:34 am
No frickin way.

If cities aren't prepared to host the summer Olympics, Melbourne can and will. The only venue that would need to be built is rowing/canoe/kayak, along with the Athlete's village.
48  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: FIFA 2014 World Cup - Official Discussion Thread on: July 14, 2014, 12:18:41 am
Uggghhhhh I managed to seep through my alarm and woke up at 3pm...missing a doctor's appointment. Thanks FIFA Sad
49  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: FIFA 2014 World Cup - Official Discussion Thread on: July 13, 2014, 03:53:24 pm
Well, neither side is looking very much like World Cup champions... but this game is significantly better than the 2010 final.
50  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: FIFA 2014 World Cup - Official Discussion Thread on: July 13, 2014, 03:36:52 pm
About time Higuain was benched
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