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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: I... Live.....AGAIN!!!!!!!! on: Today at 01:16:40 am
I's steelin yo song Northeast.
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: LUMINE EATS DEAD BABIES on: Today at 01:05:02 am
Wow a list without a cause.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ted Cruz staffer trolls hard on Twitter on: Today at 12:58:07 am
The music is made for love, 'Cruzin' is made for love
I love it when were 'Cruzin' together...


The music compelled me once again. Tongue
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Ending Financial Havens for Islamic State (Debating) on: Today at 12:44:08 am
Also still on the noticeboard.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: LGBT Equality in Schooling Act (Debating) on: Today at 12:43:17 am
Why is this still on the noticeboard?
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Repeal of the Regulatory Overhaul and Review Act (Debating) on: Today at 12:42:22 am
I have not had a chance to even view the thread so I will reserve judgement until I do.
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Police Militarization and Civil Rights Act (Debating) on: Today at 12:40:29 am
No, I think I have my answer. This isn't going to work.

What isn't going to work? You are being rather cryptic.

First, the cost of the obligations attached to the grant money could exceed the amount of the grant.

Second, we seem to have no idea how much money regional police departments receive from the federal government.

First off, we can address that problem rather simply. We go as far as we can with the funds allotted to bring as many departments into this system.

Second of all, I don't see the relevance unless those funds already go for this specific purpose and as far as I know most of the funding goes to anti-Terrorism and even if this surplus is not  direct money allotments, I know a large segment of those funding streams are.

I am confident there is a way to make this work.
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Amendment to Official Senate Rules and Procedures on: Today at 12:10:18 am
My biggest concerns are:

1. Expulsion is a blank check in Nix's text and should be limited to activity/competence like it is now. Also, it makes no sense to then include such a limitation nad then keep an unlimited override clause at the very bottom of the rules text, Expulsion should be excluded from being overridden.

2. I love you Nixy baby for keeping my precious in order slots. But they have to have a clogging rule of some sorts otherwise we will have a crowding effect, or filling the tree as it is called in real life. Likewise said clogging rule should be exempt from the rule override clause as well.

3. Aside from the concerns mentioned regarding the override capabilities, there is also the slot rules we might want to consider excluding from override capability, along with debating rules (which usually have their own processes for such), and the expulsion and clogging/introduction rules mentioned above of course.

4. Vote succession, even Justice Bgwah messed this up back in August impeached for Torie and after the supreme court ruling, it is essential that we not over or undercount "A seat". We need a clause handling vote changes by successors.


As a quick aside, I don't recall if this was fixed or not in Nix's text, but there is no reason for us to be held up waiting for the President. As soon as we pass a bill and the PPT/Speaker informs the Prez, the slot should come open for more legislation. Overrides and Redrafts can simply be handled off slot as there usually aren't that many anyway.


Here is my rand err list of requests. from the first page. I'll go through and make sure all have been addressed int he final text.
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Taft-Hartley Reinstatement Act (Debating) on: Today at 12:06:23 am
NAy for the same reason as the other bill
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Taft-Hartley Reinstatement Act (Debating) on: Today at 12:05:39 am
Are you aware that section 2 is blatantly unconstitutional, JCL?

Show me where the Atlasian constitution would forbid section 2. Unions don't have the right to force an individual to publicly reveal how they voted in a election to decide wether or not to bring a union into a company.
"is hereby banned and can never be brought up for reinstatement" being the relevant part.


It is not unconstitutional, it will have the force of law up and until a future Senate repeals it. Tongue It is not unconstitutional, it is hollow though.

Getting my constitutions mixed up Tongue It would be unconstitutional in Britain.

That is because the British Constitution consists of whatever David Cameron and Nick Clegg feel like putting in there that morning. Tongue
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Police Militarization and Civil Rights Act (Debating) on: Today at 12:02:41 am
No, I think I have my answer. This isn't going to work.

What isn't going to work? You are being rather cryptic.
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Farming Freedom Act (Debating) on: October 24, 2014, 11:47:43 pm
So amendments then?
Quote from: Amendment Offered
Farming Freedom Act

Section 1: Decartelization of Agriculture

1. The following legislative acts are hereby repealed in their entirety:
a. Agricultural Marketing Agreement Act of 1937
b. Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1938

2. The Department of Agriculture is hereby prohibited from issuing any directive or regulation limiting or requiring the production of any agricultural commodity, requiring that any agricultural commodity be sold above or below a certain price, or prohibiting or restricting the transport of any agricultural commodity to any location within the Republic of Atlasia.

3. The Department of Agriculture is hereby prohibited from distributing any form of subsidy or compensation to agricultural commodity producers or processors in exchange for said producers producing or not producing any commodity, or in exchange for said producers and/or processors selling any commodity within a certain price range.

Section 2: Elimination of Growing Regulations

1. For the purposes of this legislation, “agricultural product” shall be defined as agricultural, horticultural, viticultural, and dairy products, livestock and the products thereof, the products of poultry and bee raising, the edible products of forestry, and any and all products raised or produced on farms.

2. Effective upon the passage of this act, all Federal regulations restricting or prohibiting the production of any agricultural product, or regulating the quality or content thereof, are hereby rendered null and void.

3. The Department of Agriculture may continue to issue directives or regulations mandating labeling requirements for agricultural products or regulating the treatment of livestock.

Seems like the only starting point if anything is to come of this.
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Police Militarization and Civil Rights Act (Debating) on: October 24, 2014, 11:44:14 pm
I don't know how better to clarify the situation, Nix. As I stated before, I crafted this on the understanding that it was a direct payout and apparently that is not the case.


Since it is a transfer of equipment without any cash chnaging hands, the first clause has to be replaced anyway to reflect the sale of the surplus equiptment and the money to then be directed to the region for stated purpose. As for the requirement that it be used for a specific purpose, it was my intent that such was to be case but if the text isn't solid enough, we can look at changing that.

I believe this is the third time I have tried to convey the same response. If there is something more you need answered, you will need to be more specific.
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Amendment to the Fair De-Registration Rights Act (Debating) on: October 24, 2014, 11:39:22 pm
um, hello, is it me your looking for?...I can see it in your eyes...


Sorry, the music moved me. Good thing it wasn't "Dancing on the Ceiling". Wink
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Tax the Bastards Act of 2014 (Debating) on: October 24, 2014, 11:37:44 pm
Minimum debate has expired. Final vote?
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Civil liberties advocates losing in midterms on: October 24, 2014, 11:30:04 pm
Udall not making his stand against security state overreach central to his campaign is one of the worst political decisions of this cycle.

You cannot run against Buck in 2010 when it is 2014 and your opponent is named Gardner.


The main crux is privacy I think, and particurally in Colorado that is a big deal. I told Jbrase last year that if Ken Buck were to have an opening this time, it would be by riding this issue hard.
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Grade Mark Udall's campaign on: October 24, 2014, 11:25:50 pm
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C if he wins, F if he loses.

A D if he loses. When did anyone win on abortion on any side of the issue at this level anyways? I mean Santorum had abortion as like #3 or 4, right? And Tom Coburn ran on Personhood on Steroids but that wasn't his main issue.

Democratic strategy has been either Reid 2010 and/or Bennet 2010 in most of these races, the problem is that if the GOP candidate is smooth and doesn't have a video from 1999 waiting to tank his chances, it doesn't work. On the opposite coin the Democrats then get hit for talking about abortion and distracting from the der jobs.

I think it vindicates my assessment in 2008 that he could have been beaten with a better environment, and certainly wasn't the god people were making him out to be when they were fawning over the possibly of a multistate Senate continuation of the Udall dynasty.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Udall messes up introduction on: October 24, 2014, 11:20:20 pm
Whatever. F***k it.

How did Colorado Democrats do so well during the sh!tstorm of 2010, yet they're struggling in what is by any measure a more favorable environment?

Republicans did rather well in 2010 in Colorado outside of those races with the nuts.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Sarah Palin has endorsed Walker in AK-Gov race. on: October 24, 2014, 12:02:54 pm
Ah yes, the days when Sarah had an 85% approval rating. Hard to believe it was six years ago.
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: LUMINE CONFIRMED BALD...YUCK on: October 24, 2014, 11:58:39 am
First pic isn't work Maistre, but I tihnk I get your point. Wink


I'll play along for kicks. As a long hair of many years (three to be exact, litterally that is last time it was cut), I can say I couldn't care less. Tongue
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Solving Long Term Unemployment Act (Debating) on: October 24, 2014, 12:05:53 am
Actually you don't have to wait. Since Cynic motion for it and this bill has arguably sat five days with nothing happening.
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: LUMINE EATS DEAD BABIES on: October 23, 2014, 11:55:54 pm
Must be his environmentalist side at work trying to curb the population. Tongue
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: Environmental Act on: October 23, 2014, 08:12:31 pm
I think Maxwell is right.


Also we repealed the Cafe at the Federal level, unless the repeal was later repealed and I am forgetting about it, but I seem to recall that having happened.
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Ending Financial Havens for Islamic State (Debating) on: October 23, 2014, 08:08:00 pm
AYE FTR
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: LGBT Equality in Schooling Act (Debating) on: October 23, 2014, 08:05:55 pm
Nay I think
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