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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Capital Freedom Act (Debating) on: September 17, 2014, 09:40:24 am
It repeals card-check.
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Energy for the Future Bill 2014 (Debating) on: September 17, 2014, 09:38:01 am
Actually, I am switching to abstain, I would prefer a less aggressive wording on that.
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: October Presidential Race - North Star Polls on: September 16, 2014, 06:35:09 pm
Lumine for all. Though if DemPGH is getting blown out, I would vote for him because I really like him and it is a shame his current term happened this way.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation Hearing: TyriontheImperialist for Vice President (Questioning) on: September 16, 2014, 06:32:09 pm
I'm a situation Sad

Single member from party of membership.

I was there all 2012 with the IB, whilst you partied it up with the largest party at the time. Wink That's Atlasia.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation Hearing: TyriontheImperialist for Vice President (Questioning) on: September 16, 2014, 06:30:27 pm
Been waiting a whole month for that.
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation Hearing: TyriontheImperialist for Vice President (Questioning) on: September 16, 2014, 06:29:58 pm
AYE
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Energy for the Future Bill 2014 (Debating) on: September 16, 2014, 06:29:07 pm
Nay I suppose

I share Deus is preference, but if I have to choose a research mandate is preferably in my view to the other worse options.
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Robin Williams Memorial Suicide Copy-cat Prevention Act (Debating) on: September 16, 2014, 06:27:28 pm
I wish I could share in the misery. Can't tell how much I would trade that kind of misery for the type I have to face when I return home tonight.
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Capital Freedom Act (Debating) on: September 16, 2014, 06:23:19 pm
Quote from: Amendment Offered
Capital Freedom Act

1. Taft-Hartley is hereby reinstated

    2. Section 2 of The Labor Rights Act of 2012 is hereby repealed

    3. Oil Pipeline Funding Expungement Act is hereby repealed 
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: August 2014 Napa Valley Earthquake Relief for the Pacific Act (Debating) on: September 16, 2014, 06:21:43 pm
My ability to cross check threads is severely reduced. Tongue
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Job Guarantee Act of 2014 (Debating) on: September 16, 2014, 06:17:30 pm
Griffin's analysis suggests that the costs of this program are likely to run well over a trillion once capital costs, fringe rates, other administrative costs, and crowding out of employment and other economic activity in the private sector are accounted for.

If the goal is to minimize the number of willing, able workers who can't find employment, a more effective, economically efficient, and lower cost approach would be to reduce or eliminate the minimum wage and other regulations that discourage employment. (You could pair this with an increase in the basic income to prevent any families from falling into poverty or near poverty, and it would still be cheaper than this bill.)

Oh Dear, Nix and I agree on something. IMPOSSIBLE!!!! Wink
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Job Guarantee Act of 2014 (Debating) on: September 16, 2014, 06:16:43 pm
Where is $10.50 set as the wage for these jobs in the bill? I am having trouble finding it and the minimum wage is $12.50+ according to statute.

Semantics, I suppose. The Right Wages for the Right Regions Act appears to have reduced the minimum wage to $10.50, and allowed regions to reduce theirs as well - though the $12.00 default remains in place unless changed by a region. The RWRR Act didn't explicitly specify that the federal minimum wage was reduced to $10.50, but implied it based on the reference that it pertained to "the minimum wage established by the Living Wage Act". I would assume that the federal minimum wage wouldn't be treated the same as any changes for the regions (as in, the Senate would need to pass an additional measure to lower the wage to $10.50 after the passage of RWRR), because otherwise, there wasn't much point to allowing regions to lower their wage to $10.50 if the federal minimum were to remain at $12.00.

I am pretty sure RWRR was amended/repealed and the current is 12.50 indexed to inflation as of 2013. So it is slightly higher than that.
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Regulatory Overhaul and Review Act (Debating) on: September 16, 2014, 06:14:43 pm
AYe Don't see why not
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Robin Williams Memorial Suicide Copy-cat Prevention Act (Debating) on: September 16, 2014, 06:11:32 pm
Now PM one or both of those and/or maybe Duke and ask them whether or not there is any areas of overlap between the two in their opinion based on their reading of the present text and the linked text posted. I am short on time today so I probably won't have time to contact them directly, unfortunately.
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Public Sector Strike Curtailment Act (Voting on Amendment) on: September 16, 2014, 06:09:31 pm
AYE guess
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Energy for the Future Bill 2014 (Debating) on: September 16, 2014, 06:08:21 pm
Senator Yankee - do you have amendments or suggestions? I'm happy to entertain reasonable amendments as friendly.

Mind you, I'm also a little concerned about the straw-man of the carbon price being some kind of  unilateral action that has no connection to any other kind of global action. Considering China was raised, it is important to note that large tracts of China will have a carbon tax in place by next year.

It is us playing our role and taking action early benefits us in the long-term. We have the capacity to do something and continue to build and develop our economy.

This action considers a simple issue - we have a source of revenue that creates a price signal. There are issues about needing to expand eligibility and increase the value of low-income support for heating, as well as creating credits to enable households to undertake their own energy-efficiency activities, including self-generation, that can actually make households money.

Actually I agree with most everything the text does at this point considering that the carbon tax is here to stay most likely. Tongue

I never said that we should do nothing, I just have issues with the carbon tax as the base approach to work from. I would a slightly more complex but less overarching approach combining some incentives and regulations.
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senate Office of NC Yankee (Statement on Police and Legislation) on: September 15, 2014, 07:05:55 pm
I got more but they have to be revised more since events have altered since then. I hate not being able to compose in real time. Sad
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senate Office of NC Yankee (Statement on Police and Legislation) on: September 15, 2014, 07:05:16 pm
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Press Release - Military Personal Reassignments and Vehicles

I recently heard a story that our service men and women are facing intollerable wait times for their private vehicles to be shipped from their former posts to their current one. I know first hand what not having a vehicle can do, particularly when in places like where most of our bases are where there isn't as much public transportation (though this isn't as bad in Atlasia obviously). But for those who serve the country to be so limited, I find this disgraceful and therefore I am composing legislation that will seek to make the contract with a private company, a competative one and one that incentivizes both speed and quality of delivery to ensure that red tape is minimized and that the cars get delivered quickly and in tact. There will also be the need to make changes to Customs procedures to ensure these cases are expedited and quickly processed.


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Press Release - IDS Ratification of Federal Amendments and some other Federal Bills.

I have come to conclusion that one year and some change after Rimjob it is a mistake for the IDS to allocate the ability to ratify the amendments to the Federal Constitution, to the Imperial Legislature. I approve of us having the ability to do so, but feel it is not the right decision at this time. I understand that the hope is that it will generate interest in the elections,and either for the content of future amendments or for opposition to the mere act of having so allocated the responsibility, I hope that such is forthcoming at least as I desire for this region to survive and thrive.


Job Guarrantee Act - Nice to think about, but once again it promises to borrow and print trillions to obtain an elusive goal, if for no other reason than the means by which it will attempt to achieve such will render that the inevitable result. As I stated in the thread, the effect of this will be to move job creation from the private sector to the gov't and thus create few if any new jobs. On the other hand the massive inflation and interest rates created both now and down the road from such funding mechanisms as have been suggested would hamper the ability of business to get loans and expand, not to mention lead to massive countering job cuts for those that are gained.

Though I must say a job guarrantee sounds appealing on the surface if for no other reason than my present poverty. Of course the devil is in the details, and here at least, the facts do not have a liberal bias.

Energy Bill Thing - The Polnut bill I think not the other one. I am supportive of this or at least parts of it, if for no other reason than it will redirect money taken from the carbon tax back into the hands of the consumers it hits so hard. I have long thought a unilateral carbon tax a bad way to address a global problem, for the pollution will just move to places with far less regulation and thus make the problem worse, not better, and cost us jobs and revenue in the process not to mention hit the poor and working class the hardest. For all the problems of a Carbon tax though, a cap and trade system has the same problems and the added bonus (if you are Enron or Bernie Maddoff w/ all yo money), of it being a corrupt financial scheme.

The Capital Freedom Act - I have several issues with this, but I do like the idea of amending the Labor Rights Act of 2013 to remove section two as I don't like the idea of card check or similar systems of labor organization. I was the only Senator to vote for the redraft by then President Napoleon, which did not include this section and I think it was a mistake for the Senate to have rejected that redraft.

The Support for Carers - The return of Polnut has also meant the return of this bill that unfortunatley died after valient efforts on the part of numerous Senators to keep it alive even after Polnut departed from the Senate. I have already voiced my opinions several times on his premature departure last September, so I will refrain from so so again. cough...should've run again...cough cough. (I must be getting sick Tongue).

Anyway I am unsure about the bill as of right now and will need to review the details of the cost and the text closely before making a judgement on the matter. I will say that last time issues with the GM served to severely hamper efforts in the way of this and I hope that such is not the case again. My hope is that a solid bill will be crafted with a reasonable price tag and if such is the case, I lean towards supporting it.


Did these Saturday Night.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Post Dissolution Elections: October 2012 on: September 15, 2014, 07:03:50 pm
I recall with fondness the days when I led a major political party.

As do I. Still kinda miss the Bloc.

I said it was a bad idea to merge. Tongue
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation Hearing: TyriontheImperialist for Vice President (Questioning) on: September 15, 2014, 06:58:50 pm
The area of disagreement was that he scales back the VP aggressively and I remember when the VP could not even be bothered to open a PPT election. I think it would be a mistake to go below that of DemPGH or Cincy in level of involvement. The specifics of what that is applied to can very, but I think that should be the minimum threshold, obviously debated between just PPT and Nomination votes is below that level.

 The clogging rule is necessary for in order slots to be functional, otherwise a Senator could fill the tree and even Nix has previously attached bill wait times to activity. Tree filling is an aspect of the real life Senate we are better off without.

My two other major concern regarding Nix's rule package is the override section. If we include limits on the use of expulsion for instance like you state a desire for on some level, then it would be necessary to exempt the expulsion section. The same should apply to the in-order introduction and clogging provisions.

Yeah, and to your point about involvement, my history as a Senator makes me relatively interested in the body's goings on in the first place, so I certainly plan on at least talking a bit more than just during vote administration. I mean, I don't technically hold an office right now and I've been talking plenty.

Clogging might be necessary to prevent complete control of the floor; however, it does seem like a rule largely intended to impact TNF at this point.

I'm not sure what you're referring to on exemptions. If you mean that expulsions should be treated differently with respect to slot usage, then, yes, I certainly agree.

It was passed way back in 2009 and at various points TNF, myself, Lumine were all effected by it at one point in the Spring. It does shut itself down when no other bills are introduced and we had that happen in the June period I think where all other bills were completed. Plus there are other built in exceptions where I kept TNF at four bills at one time.

My wording strengthens that:
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2. If a Senator has introduced more than three pieces of legislation in succession, then his subsequent pieces of legislation shall be passed over until one of those three is finished or no legislation by other Senators remain in the queue. Emergency legislation placed in Slots 7-9, or in 10-11 should the former be filled already, shall be exempt from this limitation.

Would you be more favorable at a 4 bill or more clogging limit?

To clarify my other point, I was talking about the bottom of Nix's proposal. The last section contains provision to override the entire text based on a 2/3rds vote. In my view, clogging, in order introduction slots and Expulsion should be exempted from that as they preserve access to the floor/Senate and we get back to the Deus/Polnut situation.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Legislation Introduction Thread on: September 15, 2014, 06:49:48 pm
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A BILL
To bring oversight to the company(ies) providing transportation of personal vehicles to active duty military personel and provide for a competative award process that ensures that quality and speed of deliverary are maximized.

Title: This Bill is to be entitled "The 'Sgt. Where's My Car?' Act"

1. The contracts awarded to private companies by the branches of the military and/or respective commands in charge of transportion for the purposes of shipping all vehicles belonging to servicemen and women as personal property from the location of their previous assignments to their new posts, shall hereafter be awarded on a competative basis.

2. Those bidding for the contract must submit for review all necessary documents to ensure their legitimacy and suitability for handling such immense logisitical and administrative responsbilities in the transportating of the vehicles.

3. The Criteria for judging the competing companies shall be primarily focused on the twin objectives of quality of delivery and duration of time required to complete delivery. Financial compensation for the service shall be scaled accordingly based on how fast the delivery was made and the condition that the car was in upon such arrival.

4. The companies awarded the contract shall subsject to review and oversight by the Inspector General and by the Transportation commands who gave the contract to ensure compliance. As a part of all such contract shall be the liability for all lost or damaged vehicles deemed to be the responsibility of the company and which such shall be preserved as part of an also present termination clause whereby failure to standards may result in the cancellation of such contract.

5. The Atlasian Agency for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), shall expedite the processing of all vehicles purchased overseas by military personel or previously transported there from the Atlasia upon their being stationed overseas and prioritize the speedy and swift processing of such vehicles once they arrive at ports of entry.
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Job Guarantee Act of 2014 (Debating) on: September 15, 2014, 06:45:15 pm
Where is $10.50 set as the wage for these jobs in the bill? I am having trouble finding it and the minimum wage is $12.50+ according to statute.
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Capital Freedom Act (Debating) on: September 15, 2014, 06:40:22 pm
I guess I will too motion for a final vote, to get this crap dealt with one and for all.

I'd still like to know from Senators NCYankee and Lumine if they voted just against the tabling of this bill or if they actually support it? I suppose I know the answer from Senators Cassius and Deus...

See previous page. Tongue

I want to scale back the 2012 Labor rights act to Napoleon redraft version.
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Robin Williams Memorial Suicide Copy-cat Prevention Act (Debating) on: September 15, 2014, 06:34:39 pm
Post a link to the text and I or someone else if I don't have time can review it if you are unsure.

I suggest Nix since he seems rather concerned about this bill. Or Polnut, who has always been rather concerned about this issue.
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Energy for the Future Bill 2014 (Debating) on: September 15, 2014, 06:26:47 pm
I have not the time to block quote Old Nixy baby, but I will do my best to response to his post.

1. There is a such a thing as multilateralism, no?

2. They told us in school that general knowledge doesn't require citation. Tongue It is a global matter, the tax is the action of one country, and I assume most people are at least familiar with the concept of outsourcing even if the finer particulars of "value migration" are not so widely known. What will likely happen is productive capacity will shift to countries with less standards, and thereby regress, not improve in terms of the overall picture environmentally speaking.

3. I recall reading that China had eclipsed us in carbon emissions and India was not far behind. I would also point out that whilst developing economies need some accommodation, there is no reason to repeat every single stage of the industrialization process either. An example of this was Russia leading up to World War 1 adopted several technologies and practices that allowed them to make enormous strides in production and industrialization. Use of latest technology, and on the flip side making that technology available, can skip some of the dirtier stages. You could make a treaty trading such access in exchange for a general agreement on carbon taxation levels.

4. Leaving any difficulties with Deus wording aside, technology is what will solve the problem not the means by which such is encouraged. It is therefore up to use to find the best means to incentivize research and deployment of such and I hardly think that there are only two undesirable means to effect that result.

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