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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: JFK is 100 now on: Today at 02:35:43 am
It always struck me that for a short time, and at the height of the Watergate Scandal, America had only one living President, the sitting President Nixon. This was a combination of FDR's long time in office, JFK's assassination, and LBJ's and Ike's poor health. The only other time this seemed to have happened was when John Adams was President, and Washington died in 1799.


Ike died in 69, Truman in 72 and LBJ in 73. And of course JFK died in 1963.
It happened in 1933.

Only for about two months. For some reason I thought Coolidge died later in the year.

The other gaps were much longer. In Nixon's case, it would have been almost 4 years were it not for Watergate.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why don't people accept that PA voted for GOP senators in 2000 and 2004? on: Today at 02:30:45 am
I am not sure I get the point. Is someone denying the Republicans won those elections?


From 1968 until 2004, Republicans won every Senate race in PA, except for the 1991 special election that heralded the Dem onslaught in 1992 and the shift of the Philly suburbs away from the GOP.

In 1968, Republican Richard Schweiker won the open Class III seat, despite Nixon losing to Humphrey in the state

In 1976, Republican H.J. Heinz III won the open Class I seat, despite Ford losing the state to Carter.

The GOP base and coalition have been shifting in the state. In low turnout off years, the suburbs would still vote Republican and carry Republicans to victory in court races and so forth. that is beginning to change as the transformation is beginning to trickle down even there. The same has not happened for the GOP trending areas in the West and NE, which still vote for homeboy Democrats at a higher rate than they did for Clinton, though not as high as 10 or 15 years ago.

Once this process runs its course, The GOP will regain some of its lost footing down ballot.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: JFK is 100 now on: Today at 02:18:25 am
It always struck me that for a short time, and at the height of the Watergate Scandal, America had only one living President, the sitting President Nixon. This was a combination of FDR's long time in office, JFK's assassination, and LBJ's and Ike's poor health. The only other time this seemed to have happened was when John Adams was President, and Washington died in 1799.


Ike died in 69, Truman in 72 and LBJ in 73. And of course JFK died in 1963.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HB - Common Sense Gun Control Act (Debating) on: Today at 02:02:36 am
Representatives have 48 hours to object to LLR's assumption of sponsorship.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HOUSE BILL: The Storm Surge, Coastal Flooding... (Debating) on: Today at 02:01:58 am
So any further matters for discussion or can this be moved along?
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HOUSE BILL: The Currency of Atlasia Act (Debating) on: Today at 02:01:02 am
Fascinating discussion I must say.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: “System of 1896” county map on: May 28, 2017, 11:58:59 pm
What made Mississippi and South Carolina vote more Democratic then the Other Solid South states during this time period?


More vote suppression.


Also the demographics of both states. There were no Appalachian areas that provided a GOP bastion or even a slightly more Republican enclave like VA, TN, NC, AL and GA. TX had Germans, some of who voted Republican, LA has pro-union enclaves and cajuns and AR had the Ozarks. South FL had a property boom in the early 20th century driven by out of state rich people, some of who would be Republicans from NY or ILL.
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HB - The tipped minimum wage abolition Act of 2017 (Debating) on: May 28, 2017, 11:40:23 pm
I am now the designated House Sponsor for this.

Basically I just direct people to view the President's statements on this, regarding the potential for discrimination and such regarding workers in this industry via the tipped rate. I am also aware that there are those who disagree with said point and I encourage them offer their opinions on the matter so that we may have an informed discussion.


9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HOUSE BILL: Antineutrino-Simossad Affordable Housing Act of 2017 (Debating) on: May 28, 2017, 11:25:28 pm
PEssimistic is now the primary sponsor of this bill.
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HOUSE BILL: Naturalization Act (Tabled) on: May 28, 2017, 11:14:35 pm
Vote on the Motion to Table the NAturalizatyion Act:

Aye (7): Clyde, Leinad, LLR, NC Yankee, OneJ_, Peebs, and Pessimistic
Nay (0):
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (2) Dereich, Dip/Vacant


The bill has been tabled.
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HOUSE BILL: Taxpayer Receipt Act of 2017 (Debating) on: May 28, 2017, 10:58:18 pm
Quote from: Amendment H6:07 by OneJ
An Act
to send a receipt to each taxpayer on
where and how their money was spent by this government.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of Atlasia in Congress assembled...

Quote
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This shall be cited as the "Taxpayer Receipt Act of 2017"

SEC. 2. ITEMIZED FEDERAL TAX RECEIPT.

I. - Itemized Federal Tax Receipt:  The Internal Revenue Service is hereby authorized and mandated to send to every taxpayer who files an individual income tax return for any taxable year an itemized Federal tax receipt showing a proportionate allocation (in money terms) of the taxpayer's total tax payment for such taxable year among major expenditure categories for the fiscal year ending in such taxable year. The Federal tax receipt shall also include 2 separate line items showing the amount of Federal debt per legal Atlasian resident at the end of such fiscal year, and the amount of additional borrowing per legal Atlasian resident by the Federal Government in such fiscal year.

II. -  Timing Of Federal Tax Receipt: A Federal tax receipt shall be made available to each taxpayer as soon as practicable possible upon the processing of that taxpayer’s income tax return by the Internal Revenue Service.

III. - Use Of Technologies: The Internal Revenue Service is encouraged to utilize modern technologies such as electronic mail and the Internet to minimize the cost of sending Federal tax receipts to taxpayers. The Internal Revenue Service shall establish an interactive program on its Internet Web site to allow taxpayers to generate Federal tax receipts on their own.


SEC. 3. EFFECTIVE DATE.

This act shall apply to taxable years beginning after the date of the enactment of this Act.
Atlasian People's House of Representatives
Pending

Sponsor Feedback: Friendly
Status: Representatives have 24 hours to object.
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SB - The Research Grant Process and Oversight Act (Debating) on: May 26, 2017, 02:55:28 pm
This was a bill I crafted with then Representative 1184AZ to ensure that the money from the gas tax bill was properly administered.
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SB - Voting Rights Amendment (Debating) on: May 26, 2017, 02:54:19 pm
     Yeah, I opened this one. With regular Senate slots being used for House bills too, some confusion is natural.

Worth it to whittle down the backlog sooner though. Tongue
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HOUSE BILL: Naturalization Act (Voting on Motion to Table) on: May 26, 2017, 02:52:12 pm
Aye


This ends in nine hours.
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HB - The tipped minimum wage abolition Act of 2017 (Debating) on: May 26, 2017, 02:51:11 pm
I move to assume House sponsorship.


Representatives have 48 hours to object.
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HOUSE BILL: Antineutrino-Simossad Affordable Housing Act of 2017 (Debating) on: May 26, 2017, 02:40:04 pm
Representatives have 48 hours to object.
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: MT-AL: Rob Quist (D) vs. Greg Gianforte (R) vs. Mark Wicks (L), May 25 on: May 26, 2017, 02:36:31 pm
This is a horrifying result no matter how you slice it.

Something has gone horribly wrong in American politics, and I don't think it's going to get fixed any time soon.


I seem to recall an incident in 2006 where Conrad Burns attacked a group of out of state firefighters for "not doing enough" to help with the wildfires in the state.

Many thought it contributed to his loss, perhaps it did considering how close it was. But, Burns was trailing by 20 point and IIRC, subsequent polls to that incident showed Burns gaining ground.

I tend to think you are right to some extent, especially with regards to Montana as this is the second time that such unacceptable behavior, seemingly didn't play out the way it would have expected.

Or perhaps it is just coincidence.

Burns was not down by 20 points at any time. He was trailing, but the polls were very close, within single digits from all pollsters except a poll from Montana State University (dubious) and clustered in the 1-5 point lead for Tester range. I agree that some people attributed his loss to the firefighter comments, but whether those actually made a difference is hard to say. The polls didn't change much and more or less matched the final result.

http://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/SENATE/2006/polls.php?fips=30

I seemed to have recalled him further down because of the Abramoff scandal, at least early on.

Either way, one would expect such an incident to cause him to lose by a wide margin, not come within a 1% tie.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: MT-AL: Rob Quist (D) vs. Greg Gianforte (R) vs. Mark Wicks (L), May 25 on: May 26, 2017, 02:26:50 pm
This is a horrifying result no matter how you slice it.

Something has gone horribly wrong in American politics, and I don't think it's going to get fixed any time soon.


I seem to recall an incident in 2006 where Conrad Burns attacked a group of out of state firefighters for "not doing enough" to help with the wildfires in the state.

Many thought it contributed to his loss, perhaps it did considering how close it was. But, Burns was trailing by 20 point and IIRC, subsequent polls to that incident showed Burns gaining ground.

I tend to think you are right to some extent, especially with regards to Montana as this is the second time that such unacceptable behavior, seemingly didn't play out the way it would have expected.

Or perhaps it is just coincidence.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SB 2017-092: Voting Rights Amendment (Debating) on: May 25, 2017, 01:45:57 am
It would be ironic if this amendment were to be adopted without objection and the underlying result is that the underlying Amendment returns to the House and gets killed there just like the previous one got killed in the Senate. Tongue
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SB 2017-092: Voting Rights Amendment (Debating) on: May 25, 2017, 01:36:55 am
I am almost choked to death when I saw your display name Scott. Tongue


I don't really see the need for an amendment that bans praising or criticizing other candidates in ballots.  I believe that the last amendment we passed with regards to this issue is sufficient.

Come to think of it, did the House ever take up that amendment?

What amendment is that?

I would advise against striking out a clause on the presumption of a prior amendment having passed.

To my knowledge, no such amendment has been ratified so that would be a good indication it has not been enacted.

...Whoops.  Sorry, I was confusing this for another amendment we passed for something else.  I feel like we've passed ten different voting-related amendments these past few months, so I get these confused. Tongue

Well the last one was named after the section of the constitution, rather than something specific like Voting Rights and thus lends itself well to such mistakes.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SB 2017-092: Voting Rights Amendment (Debating) on: May 25, 2017, 01:35:16 am
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=255115.msg5523517#msg5523517


http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=258879.0


The last attempt at this died in the Senate
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SB 2017-092: Voting Rights Amendment (Debating) on: May 25, 2017, 01:31:07 am
My thanks to the Speaker for bringing this so swiftly to the floor, and to Representative 1184AZ for sponsoring this on my behalf.

The Voting Rights Amendment is the second take of an amendment previously considered by this body, revised to incorporate some changes Congress realized too late it wanted to make. The original bill was introduced by Southern citizen VirginiaC in response to the chaos of the October 2016 presidential election, which saw the certification of the results of the vote delayed for nearly a month thanks to ambiguities in the Bill of Rights.* The purpose of this resolution is to see that these events are never repeated by amending the Constitution to prohibit tomfoolery in the voting booth.

The changes proposed versus the current version of BR.4 are as follows:

   • "requirements for activity" changed to "frequent posting"
   • adds "as punishment for crimes" to the list of reasons for the suspension of one's voting rights
   • allows the SoFE to invalidate ballots...
            (a) posted in bizarre fonts and non-Latin alphabets (like this)
            (b) edited after 20 minutes (a safeguard against voter intimidation)
            (c) that promote or criticize a particular candidate/party/ticket
   • clarifies that everyone gets one vote, and only one vote

I would add that the House already approved most of this a few months ago; the one change is that the clause that previously required voters to post their ballots in English now requires them to post using the Latin alphabet (a change recommended by the Senate right before they realized they couldn't offer amendments to a bill they had already passed).

*Speaking of which, the description of this resolution contains a typo; this amends Section 4 of the Bill of Rights, not Section 4 of Article I.
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SB 2017-092: Voting Rights Amendment (Debating) on: May 25, 2017, 01:28:54 am
Also, you sliced something off PiT:
Atlasian People's House of Representatives
Passed 9-0, in the Atlasian House Assembled,


Tongue
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SB 2017-092: Voting Rights Amendment (Debating) on: May 25, 2017, 01:24:03 am
I am almost choked to death when I saw your display name Scott. Tongue


I don't really see the need for an amendment that bans praising or criticizing other candidates in ballots.  I believe that the last amendment we passed with regards to this issue is sufficient.

Come to think of it, did the House ever take up that amendment?

What amendment is that?

I would advise against striking out a clause on the presumption of a prior amendment having passed.

To my knowledge, no such amendment has been ratified so that would be a good indication it has not been enacted.

25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HB - No More Going Hungry in Atlasia Act (Amended, Final Vote) on: May 25, 2017, 12:21:33 am
I am going to recommend extending this by 24 hours to compensate for the fact that there were broken links in the text.
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