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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: North Carolina Yankee/Rpryor03 Presidential Campaign HQ (Now Open) on: Today at 12:13:30 am
Its Time to Vote!

The election has begun, folks. Twenty days ago, we woke up to find that Atlasia had been shaken up and I had been shaken as well, shaken by the fear that Atlasia was backsliding into old tactics, old divisions and old discords. But I had a confidence that if Atlasia was given the opportunity it would rise up an demand better and as I listen to the great words of Bill Clinton's them song, lets not stop thinking of tomorrow. A better tomorrow where we can debate, discuss and yes disagree on issues, we can challenge records and hold people accountable but in a respectful manner. I started this campaign hoping to avoid any attacks between myself and my distinguished opponent, I have called him as such every time I have referenced him, I have kept my speeches and PMs clean of any attacks at all. Instead I have invited people to join my effort, and asked them to consider supporting me. We had to challenge some false narratives at points but I am proud of the campaign that I have run this election. Proud of the fact that I have campaigned the most, despite starting two weeks later and having to endure five days without internet access thanks to Hurricane Matthew.

If you still making a decision, I invite you to review my record and my speeches, accessible from the first post of this thread. I encourage you to join my team and work to make an Atlasia that welcomes all players, that treats all players with a certain level of respect and avoids the pitfalls that have sank Atlasia in the past.

Thank you, thanks to my distinguished opponents and now it is time to get to polls.
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / NC Yankee: A Covert Ops Game Mechanic? on: October 20, 2016, 11:32:46 pm
Hilton Garden Inn
Portsmouth, NH
10:00 PM EST Oct 20th, 2016

Back when Sjoyce was the Secretary of External Affairs , what we would call Secretary of State today, he would send to various officials, including the President, Vice President, The Senate PPT (myself) and Senate NSC Committee Chair and some others, classified memos on a particular event happening in the world.

I got thinking after I responded to Speaker NeverAgainís question to me about the Ukrainian Freedom Bill and I mentioned the use of covert operations against say Russia in this case, but it could be against ISIS as well or anything like that. In terms of a game mechanic there is certainly a potential here in my opinion as far as having a Covert Operations Simulation within the Game Moderation system.

The Senate would appropriate a certain amount for cover operations, the Game Moderator or someone could assign costs and then the Administration through the President and Secretary of State could setup such operations and then notify the Game Moderator as well as the Senate PPT and House Speaker through similarly classified memos abut what had been done. The Game Moderator would after a time report on the impacts of these actions be they positive or negative and then the administration would have to react to that new situation and answer questions from both the public and Congress on the actions taken, and why and how the administration plans to move forward.

This presents the game in my opinion with an opportunity to more fully integrate foreign stories into the game and improve game play. It also brings the kind of productive interaction between the President, Cabinet, Game Moderator, Congress and the People that would be of great benefit to our present situation where all such areas seem to be lacking in the interactivity department.

As I said earlier when the idea for regional party systems being brought back was floated as a result of an endorsement from Governor Jbrase, I likewise will reiterate the importance of such creative idea generation and the important that creativity has in the game moderation system to ensure a fun and interactive game. I would love to bring such creativity and innovation to our game as your President and I hope to be able to earn your vote this weekend, to make this truly A More Welcoming Atlasia!
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: A Yankee Presidency: Leading for Our Country on: October 20, 2016, 10:33:46 pm
First off I would like to thank my running mate, Secretary Pryor and President Leinad for hosting this event and the great people of Cincinnati and the Northern Region.

It is true I have been I this game a long time, most of that I spent in the Senate. I first got elected promising accountability in confirmation hearings and I have had to grill more nominees than any other person in Atlasia. I have also had a front row seat to administrations from Lief to Leinad and I know the struggle with cabinet, VP and other difficult tasks that a President faces. I understand where the mistakes were made in each of these administrations. But I also have an opportunity to draw from the experiences of all these administrations to provide solutions to our problems. Some of these ideas worked, others could have worked if prosecuted differently. At the end of the day, it requires a drive, a sense of commitment. Some days you just donít feel like doing it and yet for seven years I got on, updated all the Senate threads and did my best to keep the Senate functioning.  

I can assure you that I will do what is necessary to keep the ball moving down the field. I will purposefully and actively interact with my cabinet, Vice President and the Congress. We will be responsive to the Game Moderator and we will be open to the Public. As PPT of the Senate, I often opened town halls where all the Senators could respond to questions directly from the people. During the Afleitch administration, he attempted to bring an idea in the British system to Atlasia, that of Question Time. I have no doubt that my distinguished opponent plans something similar. For me, I have an idea for a similar approach. But rather than just have myself engage in that I want to have an interaction between the cabinet and public as well in similar fashion to ensure that they are responsible and open to the public.

There comes a time when you have to make decisions hard decisions. For years I was the one who often had to lead expulsions against Senators who had been inactive. Members, I liked and respected, members I had worked with from all parties. Whether it is leading the fight to apply standards both on the Senators and Justices, or seeking to hold them accountable once they are in place, I know how tough decisions can be and how to make the right decision despite those difficulties. It is hard to deny someone a confirmation, it is hard to vote to expel or impeach someone and it is easy to try and find an escape hatch. I always tried to remain true to my June 2009 campaign pledge and keep to a standard that demanded competence and activity. I voted for expulsion all those times and to impeach both justices and cabinet members when the circumstances called for it.

My Vice Presidential candidate also knows how to execute laws as well without partiality or bias, and just as I ran the Senate in manner so fair that even a far lefty like Kalwejt is desperate for my return to that capacity, Rpryor has likewise administered our elections in such a manner. He served with me in the Senate at a critical time last year and likewise knows what it is like to hold officials accountable for their actions/inactions. He will therefore be a strong leader, a great Vice President and an engaged public servant working with me, the Congress and in many other capacities over the next four months.

It also not just that I can make tough decisions, but I can understand the impacts and realize that policies and actions have consequences. Whether it be the impact on players in the game, or the impact of policies on the people of Atlasia, I know for well the importance of keeping a critical sense of perspective. This is just a game, a game build on the voluntary participation of people that can leave at any time. Realizing this, it would seem crazy that anyone would take it for granted and engage in the kind of scorched earth behavior that makes people leave. It also a great game and one that I hope take the lead in making as welcoming as possible to as many players as possible. I cannot do it alone, I can only lead and inspire the great people of this country in a particular direction and I hope that you, the people, will join me in making this truly A More Welcoming Atlasia!
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Atlasians for the Abolition of Christmas on: October 20, 2016, 09:44:07 pm
To all those who wish to abolish Christmas, I have only two words

Merry Christmas

The commercialization of Christmas is exemplified by this premature greeting.  We should really be focusing on Halloween right now.

Let me help with that:


5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Duke Presidential Library (endorsement) on: October 20, 2016, 09:00:10 pm
Through thick and thin, I have witnessed, helped, supported and encouraged my good friend, President Duke. For two years he was my Vice Chairman in the Regional Protection Party and we served most of that time together in the Senate with him representing all the People as At-Large Senator and myself representing the good people of the South. He parted from me for a year after he left the Senate and the RPP was dissolved. However, we got together again in the fall 2012 and I helped him survive a tough reelection battle to the Imperial Legislature.

The following March, AHDuke became the first of a string of Vice Presidents who were the victims of my crazy idea to have an active VP. I enjoyed working with him and President Marokai together on numerous issues and especially that June when the country was faced with the turmoil of the events in the Pacific. Those same events were a critical focal point of Duke's first and second term from working to reform the regions broadly without success to bringing the Pacific back from the point of ruin. President Duke led efforts to reform the tax code and healthcare delivery, and in the Spring of 2014 joined with me and Senators from a combination of four different parties to reform the Public Healthcare system in a way that actually worked.

When you think of President Duke, you think of three important things. You think of reform, you think of getting things done and finally you think of a degree of respect and mutual cooperation that defined what became known as The Era of Good Feelings. I wish I had it in my power to recreate such feelings, but I alone do not. However, together as the great people of this country we can unite to demand a return to, if not the same thing, than something fairly close Together, we can finally unite to send a clear message to those that say the Era of Good Feelings is dead, that we as Atlasians do in fact deserve better. That we, the people, demand A More Welcoming Atlasia!

Thank You, President Duke for having me at your great library and I invite all Atlasians to come here and learn about such a great President and distinguished public servant.
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Fmr. Governor Simfan34 [ENDORSEMENT] on: October 20, 2016, 08:46:08 pm
I want to thank the Fmr. Governor for his strong support. We have not always agreed on everything, but in Simfan particularly when he was Senator, I found someone whose commitment to issues was profound.

I am reminded of a time in late 2012. We proved that we could work together on issues such as immigration, education, and technology, issues where the economic impact is profound and where the opportunities for working together were immense. I remember us working together to increase immigration of skilled workers, to improve the education system, to reward merit, and if I remember correctly we even passed a Dream Act during that term, which we expanded to include veterans as well.

As Game Moderator, Simfan showed both the necessity of realistic reporting of policy consequences and the problem posed by meddling and resistance to the work of Game Moderator. Just as I did for many other Game Moderators, from Purple State, to Adam Griffin, to Clyde, I have always encouraged and defended Game Moderator creativity from the push back of critics.

I am proud to have his support and I hope to be able to count on his advise from time to time on the issues mentioned above as well as many others.
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: North Carolina Yankee/Rpryor03 Presidential Campaign HQ (Now Open) on: October 20, 2016, 08:34:03 pm
Official Statement -

I want to state that I strongly condemn the disgraceful comments by former Justice Oakvale calling my opponent a criminal and saying nasty things about his Vice Presidential choice that I refuse to repeat. Both members of the opposition ticket are distinguished Atlasians who have served this country well and while we have our disagreements on policy I trust we both would find such attacks unacceptable and I encourage them likewise join myself in condemning them publicly. 

8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: LOCKER ROOM TALK? on: October 20, 2016, 08:12:04 pm
Great post Bacon King (highly respected elder statesman). The mass gaslighting of the Atlasian public in regards to Bore's principled and courageous tenure is appalling. If you'd listened to Bore you'd all be better off. I'd compare his last month or so to Eisenhower's speech on the military industrial complex.

If Atlasia had listened to you and the rest of your clique, every new person playing this game. Everyone who has joined since July 2015, would not be here playing today because the game would not exist.

I encourage everyone, whether you support myself or Blair or someone else, to remember this fact.
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: LOCKER ROOM TALK? on: October 20, 2016, 08:09:15 pm
"Respected" Elder Statesmen

Arnold, Burr and Davis.

Sounds like a cheap law firm, fitting.
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: LOCKER ROOM TALK? on: October 20, 2016, 08:03:53 pm
I for one am morally outraged at this transcript and demand that Mr. Yankee withdraw from the race

Speaking as a highly respected elder statesman of atlasia, I must say that this revelation (and there is no other word for it) is deeply disturbing. I say this with deep regret, but it's clear that a vote for Yankee has become unconscionable.
Highly respected on a personal level, but the last phase of your presidency was really bad.

bore is easily the most underappreciated president in Atlas history and his opposition was nothing but a secretive cabal of uncouth ruffians who placed their obscene personal ambition ahead of the national well-being

Bore appointed an Attorney General with a terrible track record, who then openly joined a rebellion and brought false charges against his opponents and then he refused to dismiss him forcing Blair and myself to impeach him. His Vice President fled the country and called for the surrender of the country, leading to him being impeached also.

I have a lot of respect for Bore from his time as Senator, in which he was great. But there is no other way to describe Bore's Presidency then a disaster.

That is rich coming from one of the many members of a very dangerous cabal that actively tried to dissolve both a region and Atlasia as a whole. Most of whom not surprisingly, have slithered out of #Atlasforum to attack, disparage and distract from their own records of treason, incompetence, bad judgement, discord and disunity to cast aspersion not only on myself once again but also my distinguished opponent, Secretary Truman and the bipartisan group that rallied last year to save this game, and despite the opposition and attempted sabotage of the same said cabal, we succeeded.

I hope Atlasians will note the source of these attacks and treat them as they should be treated, as the nasty attacks derived from the personal obsession latched onto me by the IRClique dating back to 2013.
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Two Reasons Yankee Must Be Defeated on: October 20, 2016, 07:37:17 pm
I'm not even registered, but I'd like to say my piece anyway.

1. Yankee was a Senator when I joined the game for the first time and I like the old ways. A Senate without Yankee is unconstitutional.
2. I want Blair to win because he's playing Russia in the Sword of Damocles, and I'd like to have good relations with him, so YAY BLAIR!

1. Its time to explore other opportunities. Tongue

2. That is a very interesting game, but one I sadly missed getting involved with both times because I discovered them too late.
12  General Discussion / History / Re: Examples of past historians projecting the issues of their day onto the past on: October 19, 2016, 10:40:19 pm
It may be a pessimistic outlook, but I'm not sure that many historians manage to avoid projecting present into the past they write about, even the more serious ones. What I've experienced during three years of university being forced to read from an array of historians that range from the fantastic and enjoyable to read to quite a few nonsensical ones is that said bias is actually more extended than what one thinks. Indeed, I think I've become cynical enough to distrust the ability of historians not to do this sort of projection whether it is intentional or casual.

For example, one of the most popular historians in Chile, Gabriel Salazar, can't stop judging the main figures of our independence period as European style democracy was something possible in Chile at the time (and therefore many of them qualify as bloodthirsty, authoritarian, semi-fascistic tyrants to his eyes), and yet he's considered one of the most serious authors we have (which is rather depressing). I tend to find some Medieval and Renaissance historians as an aversion of this, as many of them have studies on the conceptual differences one has to take into account to understand the period, and more importantly, the sources (because we read so many words in a different way to what they used to mean).

Making Genghis Khan look like a modern liberal or arguing that he is a symbol of "modernity" sounds ludicrously awful and cringe-worthy, but the example I probably loathe the most is marxist historiography (along with its many children) and its tendency to apply economic, social or historical theories to historical periods in which these have no bearing. It is utterly ridiculous, for example, to try and explain the Roman Republic from a marxist view of society, and yet there's countless revisionist works on the issue.

Marxist works can be bad in that sense, but in some others they do ensure a degree of context by necessity for the events described that otherwise wouldn't be adequately factored in with historical events.

The key is always to take the context as it is and not shape it first to fit their narrative, which is where they get into trouble.
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: A Yankee Presidency: Protecting our Coasts and Rivers on: October 19, 2016, 09:50:51 pm
I want to start of by thanking Emp err Governor PiT for welcoming Rpryor and myself to the great state of

I want to start off by commending the job that Governor PiT has done. Though all regions have struggled, The South I think has gotten off to the best start and has had the most stability largely thank to the hard work of Governor PiT, but also Senator Tmth, President Leinad, Speaker Never Again and Representative Peebs and many others, who together worked hard from the beginning to make the South strong.

The Governor talked about the importance of the Regions taking the lead in many areas and yes there are many areas where it is there responsibility to do so. In those areas it is incumbent upon the federal government to encourage and support such action. We recently witnessed a natural disaster in the Carolinas that many people had never seen the like of before in their lives. Many compare it to Floyd, some say it was even worse than that. The Federal Government needs to be a ready partner to assist in preparedness, providing resources and support to those regions dealing with natural disasters. But as important as the short term reaction is both before and afterwards, we need to also to mitigate the damage by preparing long in advance and there are several ways to do this

The Federal Government needs to partner with the Regions to do the following:

Identify coastal erosion hot spots and support efforts to mitigate and restore natural buffers to Hurricanes starting with beaches but also extending to barrier islands and other natural barriers.

River infrastructure needs to be maintained and restored including not only the depth of the river, which the buildup of sediments deposited from the river reduces, and thereby worsens inland flooding from heavy rains like those we saw after Hurricane Matthew. Dams and levies need to be strengthened and improved, including earthen dams, many of which are considered high risk for failure, which would cause substantial devastation if they were to give way.

We also need to work to expeditiously and safely remove coal ash ponds from their locations. I actually live near a coal ash pond and know both the dangers and risks associated with them, these are made worse during flooding events, because the water washes over or even washes away the earthen dams, carrying the coal ash down river.

Finally, the Governor mentioned the importance of biodiversity and indeed the regions are an important player in their preservation, but this is a massive problem and migrations of wildlife does not follow regional boundaries. The Federal Government has to be an active partner working with regions to preserve bio-diversify. Our food supply faces an existential crisis if we do not stabilize the food chains starting first with our oceans, which will require international cooperation, working our way up to the declining bee populations and other troubling signs that could point towards global food shortages down the road if we donít act now. As I mentioned in the debate climate change is indeed a reality and regardless of who is causing it, we have to do address it. As I talked about in Fremont earlier today, a robust technological investment will move us towards mitigating the impact on the climate from our energy usage, by increasing efficiency and then eventually diversifying us away from fossil fuels.

Let us be assured that partnering with the regions, does not mean the federal government is going to be sitting on the sidelines, nor on the other hand does it mean unrestrained mandates on actions and behaviors. It means we are going to be proactive partners. The Governor is correct about my commitment to the regions and working with them.

I plan to meet regularly with all three regional executives, along with my cabinet to discuss the areas where federal law involves them taking action. This will not only allow us to pursue the above mentioned priorities, but also to encourage activity by spreading awareness and interest in these issues at the regional level. At the same time this will allow regions to express concerns to the President and the cabinet members.

I want to thank Governor PiT and the great people of the South once more. It all started here, with a message about joining Atlasia and then another six months later about this crazy place called the Senate. I have loved working with my great friend and ally for the past seven years and I look forward working with him and the other Governors to create a stronger, more Welcoming Atlasia, if I am so fortunate as to earn your vote this weekend.
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: A Yankee Presidency: Leadership for the Sciences on: October 19, 2016, 08:58:41 pm
First off, I want to thank Governor soon to be Representative Ted, for inviting myself and Rpryor03 out here once again to Fremont, to talk about energy and technology

It goes without saying that we are stronger and our adversaries are likewise weaker when we have an abundant supply of affordable, clean energy. This strengthens our economy by diversifying and increasing supply, increasing efficiency and thereby reducing consumption of oil, dropping the price. It also strengthens our position relative to our adversaries who have economies dominated by fossil fuel production.

We need a 15% increase in funding for fuel efficiency technology and research into energy extraction where the priority should be to find ways to extract oil and natural gas in ways that provide less harm to water tables and other environmental concerns, than exists with present methods such as hydraulic fracturing.

We also need to boost long term investments in alternative energy to begin the extensive process of moving more towards renewable energy and relying less on carbon based fuels. In the meantime we also have to acknowledge that such a transition will take years and in the meantime we need to expand partnerships with private entities to explore and develop carbon capture, storage and even now recycling whereby products like shoes can be made out of the carbon sequestered from power plants.

We also need to get back on track with regards to space. I agree with Governor Ted that the private companies have done tremendous work, but at the same time we need a better degree of involvement from both the federal and private sector to make this work. If more companies need to be brought in, than coordinating them will become a priority. We also, as the Governor said need to reform the way these partnerships function. This is a further expansion of what I discussed previously about reforming the way Government procures and contracts, to ensure cost savings and better quality in return for money spent.

As President I plan to work with hopefully soon to be Representative Ted and others to pass these necessary reforms and on many other vital issues. It is critical for our foreign and economic future to remain a leader in science and technology, to inspire our country to reach for great things and to accomplish them through hard work and determination. It is therefore why I believe we should strive to put a man on Mars and bring them back safely by the end of the 2030's. The technology developed and the research conducted will benefit our economy and way of life for decades afterwards just as space programs in the mid 20th century had a long lasting impact on our current economy and way of life.

Thank you Governor, for having us in Fremont. I want to thank the people of Atlasia and Fremont and I hope to earn your vote this weekend.
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HB 2016-1041 - Increasing the Vice Presidents Power Amendment on: October 19, 2016, 01:28:48 am
Yeah, this is definitely a tricky position to grapple with.  A lot depends on the vision of the president and vice president about the kind of administration they want to have.  While I understand why it might help to give the VP some more constitutional powers, I'm not sure it's a good idea to constrain the sort of creative thinking that goes on in a presidential campaign.  Part of the neat thing about Atlasia is how each administration kind of handles things differently.  I've never been an executive, so I don't have that first hand experience, but the way Atlasia is set up, it puts a lot more onus on the executive to be creative about the kind of tone they want to set for their administration.  They aren't just in charge of making decisions on whether to sign bills, but they are also in charge of getting people active and making the game fun and interesting.  In that sense, their role is a lot more open-ended and difficult than being a legislator.

One good thing about the old OSPR was that the role of the Vice President was not explicit, it was the product of him being President of the Senate and the PPT being subordinate to him. That meant that the PPT, in this case me, could each time the Senate started determine with the Vice President, which slots they would administer. We had slots that were natural ones, Emergency, Foreign Policy, Forum Affairs, and a misc one that were all given to the VP eventually, but each Senate the VP could determine his level of involvement. Perhaps it was a combination of those unfortunate souls (Duke, DemPGH, Matt, Cincy and Jammer) falling victim to my wily charm to get them to cooperate with my crazy idea of an active VP, but somehow it worked and worked well. Four out of those five were active, something that has never been matched before our since.

Either way, the flexibility was much larger ironically in this particular area only, in the old clunky OSPR, than in Windjammer's present text. And thus if a VP wanted to be a cabinet and have little to do with the Senate, he could shift slots back to the PPT and the next VP could take them back. However, I have learned much to my chagrin, if you don't spell out a task, chances are officeholders will be inactive especially once you no longer have someone guiding them in a particular direction with a constant stream of PMs about what needs to happen today. Tongue

So perhaps flexibility is the necessary trade-off for awareness.
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HB 2016-1041 - Increasing the Vice Presidents Power Amendment on: October 19, 2016, 01:18:03 am
Times like this I miss being a Senator and could sponsor stuff for people. Tongue

The simple fact of the matter is Windjammer is right. The priority was on simplicity and just like with Nix in late 2015, if you take simplicity (which is important, don't get me wrong) to its absolute ends, you end up cutting the Vice President completely out of the picture. Of course if one supports abolishing the Vice Presidency it is fine to do that, but if you don't you have to find that balance.

I wrote up as one of those "shuttle texts in September 2014 (as in I shuttled them on a flash drive to a neighbor to post them)", a rules alternative that cut 61% of the length from the original OSPR, but preserved the roll of the Vice President and other things. Nix's cut just 12% more than mine and in the process returned us to the pre-March 2013 status quo of inactive Vice Presidents. I think we can afford that 12% extra length, to ensure the adequate involvement of the Vice President as President of Congress.

17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: North Carolina Yankee/Rpryor03 Presidential Campaign HQ (Now Open) on: October 19, 2016, 01:10:21 am

I plan to.
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: North Carolina Yankee/Rpryor03 Presidential Campaign HQ (Now Open) on: October 18, 2016, 11:44:23 pm
North Carolina Yankee  a few questions

1.How do you plan to successfully balance your duties as Party Chair with your duties as President?

I have been balancing multiple hats in Atlasia for years, being an effective Senator, Party Leader and PPT all at the same time. It takes a combination of experience and determination, but I think the most important part of that is a sense of fairness. As PPT there were many times I could have done stuff to benefit my side at the expense of others, and didn't for the good of the position, I wanted it to be non-partisan and that is how I got elected in some Senates with as much as an 8-2 Left versus Right split. As President, I will govern the country to the best of my ability and that comes first.

2.What would you describe as your greatest weakness and how do you compensate for it?

My greatest weakness throughout this game has been struggling with the indirect consequences of living in rather impoverished conditions. That means at times it has been difficult to maintain my presence, especially in 2014 when we had no income, no vehicle and no internet access. The way I overcome this is by a simple dogged determination to continue and not let that take away a game I enjoy so much. I found alternative means to access the internet and maintain my duties as Senator, helping with the 2014 Senate rules package (disagreements with it aside), crafting legislation to help active duty military get their personal vehicles transferred back home and passing a third in series of piecemeal reforms to mental healthcare after attempts at Comprehensive reform died the previous year.

My detractors have used this event to try and claim I was crazy and obsessed, I prefer to think it demonstrates my commitment and passion for the game and making sure that all can participate regardless of their socio-economic origins.

3.What assets does your running mate bring to the table in both your campaign and potential administration?  

Secretary Rpryor has served effectively and actively as Secretary of Federal Elections, temporary Elections administrator during the transition period, Game Moderator, Senator, NE Representative, and Northeast Chief Judicial Officer. He has served in the executive, legislative and judicial rolls, in both the regional and federal government, which provides him with a critical perspective. Most important his service in the cabinet demonstrates a level of experience and activity that will make him a great Vice President and together with my experience as PPT working with every Vice President from Bacon King (the first time) to Windjammer, will allow for us to finally get the Vice Presidency working as an active and functional entity within the Federal Government.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Fight for Atlasia: Blair/Kingpoleon 2016 (Statement) on: October 18, 2016, 08:19:39 pm
I must say I am thoroughly disappointed Scott and Truman. We could have had a 100% positive campaign, despite Tmth's departure and the events motivating. Clearly Labor didn't want that. Winning matters more than anything else, which is exactly what I warned about two months ago, when Blair assured us that things had changed now that he was running the party and yet since then, things have only gotten worse. 

What the hell did I do? Huh  All I did was talk with some Labor leaders about Peebs' bizarre decision (at the time) to join Tmth's ticket and 1184AZ's obnoxious party-jumping after he sponsored what I thought to be a radical bill.  I didn't tell or try to coerce anyone into doing anything.  In fact, I even told Adam and Blair and company about how upset I was after Tmth left.  I'm mostly in the dark about the shenanigans that go on here because I don't like being a party to them.

Please clarify what you meant by that, because I've done nothing to try and exclude people.

I wasn't accusing you, I was trying to indicate that portion of the post was in response to both you and Truman. I see now why that sentence could be confusing. I am disappointed in what has been happening, not disappointed "in" you and Truman if that makes sense.

20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: NC-NBC/WSJ/Marist: Cooper +1 on: October 18, 2016, 07:06:00 pm
Guys, large parts of NC-01 and Eastern NC is flooded right now. Polling will not be accurate in this state. Also Fayetteville and Lumberton have a lot of flooding as well.

The question is in what direction it's biasing the polls.

Those are Democratic areas, so it might be undemining Cooper. At the same time McCrory was "in charge" of a crisis situation providing a temporary bounce.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Fight for Atlasia: Blair/Kingpoleon 2016 (Statement) on: October 18, 2016, 06:51:03 pm
^ wasn't AZ a federalist when he did that tho Tongue

I am pretty sure Arizona is Harambe territory these days, though that might have changed.

22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Fight for Atlasia: Blair/Kingpoleon 2016 (Statement) on: October 18, 2016, 06:17:32 pm
Roll Eyes

These attacks are so hilariously moronic on so many fronts that I'm having a hard time believing the accusers are actually serious. Then again, I suppose this is the party that claimed I was not sufficiently active to be president back in June (seriously, WTF?), so I guess I shouldn't be surprised that they would resort to clownish double standards and misrepresentations of fact to prop up their own failing campaign.

But let's give them the benefit of the doubt. Surely, if these individuals believe taking a break from politics disqualifies one from ever holding national office again, they would be prepared to apply that standard equally? For example, they would never have considered supporting Lumine for vice president four months ago, seeing as he took an extended break from the game last November (when the situation was just as dire as it had been two months before, when Blair left for less than a month). Oh, wait - none of them had any problem with Lumine's record, nor did it bother them that Tmth left the game for almost a year before returning to run for Midwest Governor. Huh.

Let's be honest: these "concerns" are nothing more than the last, desperate attempt of a defeated party to whip up enough faux outrage to rescue their dying electoral prospects. There was a time when I would have been surprised by this sort of conduct - especially from a party that claims to fight for a "more welcoming Atlasia" - but I guess this is the world we live in now. What a shame.

No one on this thread ever challenged Blair's right to return, participate or run for President. What was challenged is his claim to have always fought, it is his whole campaign theme. This came just after he questioned my commitment to my campaign theme, therefore my supporters saw it as fair game.

I wanted a completely positive campaign. I never have mention Blair in a negative light in my speeches, I have referred to him as my distinguished opponent, and I have not  sent anything critical of him in any of my PMs, but I have confirmation he has not been extending me the same courtesy.

You say we have a failing campaign. Well, Truman, lets see you hop into a race two weeks late, because a previous candidate was driven off, go through the worst Hurricane since Floyd and still put up a campaign. Some polls now even have me ahead, which wasn't the case before.  

The whole reason I am in this race, is because a previous candidate found himself facing such negativity and hostility, that he decided this game wasn't worth it anymore and left. I am all for people returning, and being active, it is part of my platform for heaven's sake. However, there comes a point where the tactics have to be examined and when people are leaving, perhaps you are going too far.

All right.  I was asked to have a look at this lovely discussion here and give my input.  I've been feeling like sht the entire day and didn't get to this until now, so I'm glad we're getting some level of civility back in this thread.

I don't really have anything to say beyond what LLR has relayed.  I wasn't around for half the sht that's been mentioned in this thread and I really don't care to go back and get in on all the details.  I really don't.  I rejoined this game because I wanted to debate bills and run for stuff.  I freely admit to being an asshole on this site pretty much in general, but most of the "attack dog" BS in this game is childish and ultimately counterproductive when we end up losing valued and active members (Tmth being one) because of it.

If you want to attack a party's record, fine.  But let's steer away from the personality cultism that has dominated the culture of this game for far too long.

What was used against Tmth was disgusting and disgraceful. Had nothing to do with Atlasia and frankly the people who engaged it in should have been ashamed of themselves. And frankly I find it galling when people are claiming moral outrage over us critiquing Blair's theme the same way he critiqued mine, and yet I didn't see any equivalent criticism or self examination when worse tactics were used by use guys.

There is no equivalency here.

Dfw encourages someone to run for President - outrage.
Meanwhile Labor registers people during an election and has them vote in the same election, which has never been allowed before or tolerated. Perfectly fine

Blair questions my Welcoming Theme, so Leinad/dfw question Blair's Fighting Theme - Outrage
Yet Labor is spamming voters with negative attacks on me and exploiting anti-Yankee hostilities via IRC to divide Atlasia and win the election. Perfectly fine

I must say I am thoroughly disappointed Scott and Truman. We could have had a 100% positive campaign, despite Tmth's departure and the events motivating. Clearly Labor didn't want that. Winning matters more than anything else, which is exactly what I warned about two months ago, when Blair assured us that things had changed now that he was running the party and yet since then, things have only gotten worse.  
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: United Alternative - September/October 2016 Convention on: October 18, 2016, 05:54:03 am
I too thank the United Alternative for its endorsement. I welcome all of you come join our efforts and help fight to achieve a more welcoming Atlasia.

24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Atlasians for the Abolition of Christmas on: October 18, 2016, 02:11:19 am
Things are different since you been here last
Childhood dreaming is a thing of the past
Maybe you can bring us some hope this year
Visions of sugar plums have disappeared

Seemed fitting. Tongue
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: North Carolina Yankee Presidential Campaign HQ (Now Open) on: October 18, 2016, 02:05:49 am
Mr. Senator, I am asking this to both you and Sen. Blair: Would you support or overturn the veto on the Ukrainian Freedom Bill by President Leinad?

I would work with Congress to create a more viable compromise.

I think most support the idea of preserving Ukrainian Sovereignty and getting Russian meddling/invaders out of their territory. However, that said, I share the President's concerns over the use of the term unconditional support. This is a volatile situation and any student of history, particularly Russian history would know that 1) unconditional support in such a volatile location is an invitation for armed conflict and 2) direct confrontation with Russia is perhaps the least efficient means by which one can commit suicide.

History teaches us that Russia has historically exhibited strong patriotic fervor that washes away problems and rallies the country behind their leader. Nicholas II saw such a rally around the flag effect, that only dissipated with the incompetence and corruption of his government reaching epic proportions. Stalin did as well. Triggering this bear is perhaps the least effective and most counter productive thing you can do.

I think a better answer lies in using economic sanctions, making oil as worthless as possible and using covert operations both to weaken Putin Politically and to make life as miserable for them as possible in Ukraine similar to Afghanistan in the 1980's. Conflicts both armed and not between nations have often been determined by economics. The Union out produced the Confederacy, the Allies out produced the Nazis, crop failures limited Soviet aggression in the 1950's and 1960's, and the collapse of the oil market crippled the economy of the Eastern Bloc countries in the 1980's and contributed to Russia's withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Our strategy and tactics. when it comes to Russia and the world at large, must be guided by the history of not only what has worked, but what has failed the world over. I think the strategy outlined above is far more in line with those lessons of history than bellicose ICBM rattling.
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