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1  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of Glenn Beck on: July 03, 2015, 11:54:36 pm
He did lampoon the birther movement back in 2010 and 2011.
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: July 03, 2015, 11:50:49 pm
Is that 18 posts on this section or the entire forum?

Entire forum.
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: July 03, 2015, 11:30:03 pm
Your account has to be seven days old and you must have 18 posts before you can join The Atlas Fantasy Elections Simulator.


You can find out this information and more in the Introductory to Atlasia page stickied near the top of the board.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Who is the... on: July 03, 2015, 11:00:18 pm
Senate PPT should have responsibility to do it after each bill gets passed IMO.

There is no Senate PPT anymore. Tongue

They retired the position because no one could match your brilliance?  What do they have instead?  

"Senate Speaker"

Presently vacant and likely will remain so for a few days since Polnut is on leave.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: General Senate Discussion on: July 03, 2015, 10:58:30 pm
I think we need to elect a new Speaker now that Talleyrand has resigned

Polnut is the one who has to open the thread under the rules (though Nix might be able to in the case of the Dean being on leave), but he is on leave until Sunday.

Though I should note he has been posting on the forum generally for the past week though he has not posted in the Senate. So how unreachable he might be is uncertain.

New Order of Seniority
Polnut - Dean of the Senate
Cris
Blair
myself
New Canadaland
Turk
Snowguy
PiT
Vacant
Vacant
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: National Parks Act of 2015 on: July 03, 2015, 10:42:14 pm
Quote from: Amendment offerred
Section 1: clause d is striken from the text and all subsequent clauses are renumbered accordingly
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: National Parks Act of 2015 on: July 03, 2015, 10:39:20 pm
Snowguy's knowledge of environmental issues is surpassed by no one, love or hate his position on climate change, his knows his stuff on a generalized basis and across every facet of environmental protection.


I think he is right about the defacing of the landscape. How long has this lake existed?
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Modern Health Education Act on: July 03, 2015, 10:36:45 pm
How much would the facilities to cook such food on site cost for said schools though?
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Who is the... on: July 03, 2015, 10:33:26 pm
Who the hell would want the job of "Wiki Secretary"?

Presumably one of the morons who thinks that everything is a-okay in Atlasia right now and that, if we just tried harder (Smiley) things would get active and hunky-dory again!

Nothing is fine in Atlasia. But if you insist on shrinking the game to match the ever shrinking number of people willing to put up with all this nastiness, you will find you have sent it on a one way ticket to hell. I refuse to let you flush this game down the drain.
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Is it time to end Atlasia? on: July 03, 2015, 10:18:55 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you North Carolina Yankee. Exhibit A for why this game is dead.

I have tried to encourage and motivate people to participate for years. How many people have you? How many people have expressed with disgust they way you interact with people. You were active and great at formulating policy, no one can doubt that. But no one realistic can deny the negative impact your tone has had either.

Take a look in the mirror TNF and accept the painful reality that you actions have had consequences. I know what I did to hurt this game, I freely admit to it and accept that it happened because of my actions.

When it comes to getting and keeping good people though, I know I wasn't making this place so nasty. I fostered a collaborative environment, tried to make it about policy differences. What do I get for my labors, stabbed in the back and lies spread about me when I was going through some of the worst personal difficulties. Anyone else would have said to hell with it, I didn't because I believe this game can be better than that, I believe that good people want to play this game with respect and build this game up as opposed to tearing it down. WE can have our differences, but at some point you have to draw a line, something you have no capability of understanding.
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Who is the... on: July 03, 2015, 10:08:08 pm
Just updated the statute page and stopped as soon as I lost the will to live. More of it later, presumably.

Basically that's the issue: it's tedious work in the extreme and not really appreciated. We should train monkeys to do it.

In spite of our vast personal differences and history, I do appreciate it.
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Who is the... on: July 03, 2015, 10:07:14 pm
Senate PPT should have responsibility to do it after each bill gets passed IMO.

There is no Senate PPT anymore. Tongue
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Is it time to end Atlasia? on: July 03, 2015, 10:03:57 pm
If people quit the Senate because of 'me and my mouth,' they have much deeper issues than holding office in a pretend politics game.

You miss the point, this is a game built on voluntary participation. Who the hell is going to participate to deal with you calling them a fascist or Al calling them an idiot, when they can just deregister at any time. And you wonder why this game struggles to get and keep good people. If we had back the people you guys have driven off, we would be in much better shape.
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Is it time to end Atlasia? on: July 03, 2015, 10:02:35 pm
It is so damn amazing how a bunch of burned out hasbeens have decided their bored, so they are going to destroy it for it everyone else and anyone in the future who might come and revive it. This game is not yours to destroy by some damn simple majority vote. If you trully think this game is so damn bad, if all you can think about is destroying it, then perhaps you should consider leaving and let newer more positive thinking people have their shot. Instead of coming back every fear years, treating people like crap, blowing sh**t up and then whining that the game is dead.
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Is it time to end Atlasia? on: July 03, 2015, 09:55:48 pm
It's beyond embarrassing how inactive the "government" has become and how uncontested most elections are. As TNF pointed out, there are 2 candidates for 4 positions in the Midwest, and the only people who have voted are the 2 candidates themselves.

dead0man isn't one of the candidates. I wish he would run, but still this "only voters are the two candidates, seems false on its head".



It wasn't when the post was made, you dolt.

Your original post in the "This Game Sucks donkey Dick thread" was at 6:00 PM. Dead0man voted 17 hours prior to that post. I don't stalk your fing posting so if you made another, then fine. But then it begs the question why are you repeating a statement that is no longer accurate to use a fvie day long election occuring over a Fourth of July Weekend to make a statement about the damn game being dead.

And stop with the GOD DAMN NAME CALLING!!!! Angry Angry

I had people retire from the SEnate because of you and your mouth.
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Is it time to end Atlasia? on: July 03, 2015, 09:50:14 pm
But mostly the people it alienates are idiots. Let's be clear here: the moronic yelping for 'REGIONAL RIGHTS' was the moment at which the game embarked upon the path that led to its decrepitude.

No, that was when this game was saved from the small exclusive vision you have for this game.

You have been treating people like crap for a decade. You as much as anyone is guilty of creating an environment where people just say "f this", I'm out.

You guys have never gave a damn about the mood on the right because frankly you have never needed or wanted a right in this game. You don't need them when there is no gov't sim or Game engine to make elections worth anything more then just personality contests.

The problem is not us Regionalists, the problem is people like you calling people you disagree with idiots all the time.
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Is it time to end Atlasia? on: July 03, 2015, 09:41:25 pm
It's beyond embarrassing how inactive the "government" has become and how uncontested most elections are. As TNF pointed out, there are 2 candidates for 4 positions in the Midwest, and the only people who have voted are the 2 candidates themselves.

dead0man isn't one of the candidates. I wish he would run, but still this "only voters are the two candidates, seems false on its head".

18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Texas: Attorney General Paxton being investigated for securities fraud on: July 03, 2015, 03:14:12 am
I can think of no better name for a Texas Attorney General. The first thing that comes to my mind when hearing the name Paxton is that of a Confederate General.
19  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Don't open PMs or posts from "James Roberts" on: July 03, 2015, 02:10:28 am
Are all of these atheist or is someone else gettign in on the act now too?
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Legislation Introduction Thread on: July 03, 2015, 01:56:35 am
Quote
A Bill

For the purposes of protecting Atlasians from in game repercussions resulting from the arbitrary and uneven  nature of the present forum moderation

Bill Title: This Bill shall be entitled the “Protection of Atlasians from Arbitrary Forum Administration Act”.

Section 1. Definitions
1. Accidentally Banned - Any poster whose account or IP was banned completely unintentionally as a result of trying to ban another poster.
2. Mistakenly Banned - Any poster whose account or IP was banned under the incorrect belief that said person had committed a violation warranting such a ban, but was later proven to have not committed such an act, leading to a restoration of the account.

Section 2. Registration
The following clause shall be inserted as clauses 4 and 5 of the Deregistration of Banned Members Act:
“4.  Any forum member shall have their registration immediately restored whereupon  a member of the Forum administration or moderator team has announced that an accidentally or mistaken ban had occurred.”

“5. The Registrar General, or officer fulfilling the same capacity over the registration and census, shall wait 72 hours, following the announcement by forum administration or moderator staff, of a poster having been banned from the forum before removing said banned Atlasians from the rolls.”

Section 3: Offices
1. Any poster who was accidentally or mistakenly banned by the forum administration shall be immediately restored to the offices which they held, unless the restoration is subsequent to next regularly scheduled election to that office.

2. No appointments shall be made, nor special elections called for vacancies arising from the deregistration of a banned member until the Registrar General, or like officer fulfilling the same capacity over the registration and census, has officially removed from the rolls following the 72 hour waiting period established in Section 2 of this act.

Section 4: Effectiveness
This bill shall go into effect immediately upon its adoption as Federal Statute.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Legislation Introduction Thread on: July 03, 2015, 01:55:37 am
The way this is going to play out, is sooner or later people are going to accept what it means to have a "freakin game god", or the game itself is dead. There is no middle ground, because otherwise you have a bunch of people, bullsh...ting into a vacuum and every election is basically a popularity contest with no dynamic aspect or interaction with a stream of events whatsoever. Basically what we have had, only worse.

Kalwejt was the best Game Moderator this game has ever had, and he was run out of office. Good job guys. So no we are not going to abolish the game moderator. And why don't you find a way to give some purpose to your current job unless you are unintentionally driving it down the same road. Tongue
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Atlasian Pokemon Cards? on: July 03, 2015, 01:04:56 am
Actualyl forget what I said, I like it. Tongue
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Atlasian Pokemon Cards? on: July 03, 2015, 01:01:28 am
I F...... hate love you Griff

Milking from AAD, thats low even for you Griffin. Tongue

You could at least give a hat tip to endurance or whatever.


24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Who is the... on: July 02, 2015, 09:12:01 pm
I have a rudimentary knowledge of wiki updating, which doesn't extend to updating history pages unfortunately. I also don't know how to create new pages, only update existing ones and I preferred not to "learn on the job" on the statute pages. I am presently working on five different bills, I maintain a polling firm, I run a political party, and for a long time I ran the Senate on top of that. I have a very physically demanding job in real life and therefore I don't consider it to unreasonable to decline to add this courtesy to my present load.

For a while people where "doing it themselves" I would reckon, but when that person burns out you cannot exactly bitch about them no longer doing since it wasn't their responsibility, but merely a courtesy. Nix should definately be commended in this regard and bgwah for many years as well did much to keep it updated even when they weren't AG or whatnot.

When it can do is focus attention on who is officially tasked with such and find out why it isn't being done. The statute pages are the responsibility of the Department of Justice, SEnate rules were handled by VP though it almost always ended up being myself, throughout my time as PPT, that actually did the updating. Regions handle their pages, not sure who was tasked with the main page.

Al, if there was a lapse in communicate between the Senate leadership and your department, why hasn't this been brought to the attention of the full Senate?
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Criminal Justice (Reform) Act on: July 02, 2015, 03:10:40 am
Quote from: Amendment Offered updated
Section 2: Crimes Against Atlasia

A) The following shall be crimes against Atlasia:

1. Impersonation. This offence shall be defined as the impersonation of another Atlas Forum member (be they a citizen of the Republic of Atlasia or not) on the territory of the Republic of Atlasia.
2. Identity Theft. This offence shall be defined as the illicit taking of control by any means of another Atlas Forum member's person account (be they a citizen of the Republic or not) without explicit and provable consent.
3. Voter Fraud. This offence shall be defined as the creation of identities other than a citizen's primary identity in the Republic of Atlasia and subsequently entering this identity into the tally of registered voters. 3a. If a citizen no longer has access to their previous forum account and wishes to register and/or vote with a new forum account in Atlasia, then they shall be allowed to do so legally only if they make it clear in the registration thread who they are and which forum account they previously registered under so that the SoFA may appropriately update the registration without having any duplicate accounts on the voter roll. 3b. This shall exclude those who have had their previous account banned from the Atlas Forum.
4. Electoral Fraud. This offence shall be defined as the manipulation of of the Republic's electoral procedures and practices with the aim of fraudulently altering the results of a specific electoral contest.
5. Obscenity. This offence shall be defined as the posting of any threads, messages, images, videos, links or other media of a pornographic or sexually explicit nature on the territory of the Republic of Atlasia. In cases where the material posted is of a clearly pornographic nature, the offence shall be known as Gross Obscenity.
6. Electoral Intimidation. This offence shall be defined as the placing of undue pressure on a citizen of the Republic to cast a ballot in a particular way, to not cast a ballot at all, or to invalidate a ballot already cast. In those cases in which undue pressure has been applied in the form of credible threats to disclose personal information, the offence shall be known as Grievous Electoral Intimidation.
7. Ballot Tampering. This offence shall be defined as the deletion of a ballot during a period between vote was closed and elected officeholders sworn-in or soliciting to delete a ballot during the same period.
8. Impersonation of a Public Official. This offence shall be defined as the performance of the duties of a cabinet official or deputy cabinet official without proper promotion or appointment.
9. Misconduct in Public Office. This offence shall be defined as the abuse of office for provable personal gain by cabinet officials or deputy cabinet officials.
10. Perjury. This offence shall be defined as "any person who takes an oath before a competent tribunal or officer that he will testify, declare, depose, or certify truly, or that any written testimony, declaration, deposition, or certificate by him subscribed, is true, wilfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true."
11. Breach of the Peace. This offence shall be defined as the wilful undertaking of activities that though not treasonous nevertheless undermine the stability and security of the Republic of Atlasia by breaching the Peace as established by the Constitution of the Republic of Atlasia.
12. Malicious Editing of the Wiki. This offence shall be defined as the editing of the Atlasia Wiki with malicious intent.
13. Improper Behaviour on the Wiki. This offence shall be defined as the knowing violation or flagrant disregard of Senate-imposed Atlasia Wiki guidelines and standards.
14. Contempt of Court. See Section 5, Clause 4 of this Act.
15. Terrorism. This offense shall be defined as the malacious deletion or destruction of threads housing government institutions, voting booths, or the legislation threads of any legislative body in Atlasia.
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