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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Trillionth Federalist Party HQ - Get Out and Vote!!!! on: Today at 07:38:51 am
Chairman Yankee is surrounded by reporters on his way out of the Federalist HQ


I just want to say first off, that I want to thank all those who have voted so far and encourage everyone else to get out and vote if you have not done so. I want to stress that this election is far from over, and while I am greatly pleased with the results so far, this election has plenty of time and plenty of remaining votes. If you are a conservative, if you are a libertarian, if you are moderate, even if you are a liberal or even a socialist who desires a change and a different direction, please go out and vote for Leinad/Lumine.

Thank you!

Yankee walks away from the reporters.
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Trillionth Federalist Party HQ - For the Constitution and the Free Market!!! on: Today at 07:28:48 am
Reserved
3  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Did Putin provide assistance to the pro-Brexit campaign? on: Today at 03:00:28 am
Of course he did. Modern far-right and right-populist parties and politicians (Drumpf included) are playing the exact same role communists did in the 1950s.

It is amazing that Russia has once again become the leading proponent of Reactionary politics, just like it was during the late 18th and 19th century, from inciting slavic sectarianism in foreign countries to promoting and propping up the far right across Europe.

Amazing that as we get further and further away from the breakup of the USSR, those 70 years look more and more like the super-imposed aberation they were, as opposed to the natural state of affairs it had seemingly come look like by the 1980's. Of course even doing that period the same type of stuff happened just done in the name of the people instead of the Tsar/Slavic unity or in this case Russian interest or whatever they would call it now. If that is not a stunning indictment of the failure of Communism, nothing is. Marxism was suppose to erase such nationalist inclinations.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Atlasian's for a Free Scotland and United Ireland on: June 24, 2016, 05:55:03 pm
Oh trust me the financial blip is the least of our worries- the problem is that working class voters in the North suddenly think the NHS is going to be saved by this magic money pot we've got from the EU...  besides the fact we're already seeing banks leave London (which accounts for a good amount of our tax receipts)

We're facing a second referendum in Scotland (that Labour will most likely support), Sinn Fein calling for a referendum in Ireland and Boris Johnson as prime Minister- who's basically Rudy Guilani just with more affairs, and no actual accomplishments.

Sorry to fatten up this thread, but Brexit is like Florida 2000, Thomas getting nominated to the Supreme Court and Trump getting elected all at the same time in terms of shock

If Labour lets Scotland go, they might as well dissolve.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Atlasian's for a Free Scotland and United Ireland on: June 24, 2016, 03:03:57 pm
How about we abolish the entire EU.

Return to national sovereignty.

Oh yeah because Britain's 24 hours of 'national sovereignty' has been a brilliant success with our PM quitting, Corbyn getting couped, the Governor of the Bank of England appearing on TV telling us not to panic, the pound plunging and being the laughing stock of Europe-having gone from the never quit group in the 1940 to the the 'muh immigrants' in 2016

A testatment to the fact that people will always opt to lose their heads first than come back to reason later. I guess that can be said for both sides.

Britain existed for close to 300 years before the EU, I have every confidence it will remain for another 300 years after the EU, provided cooler heads prevail.
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: a question about the reset on: June 24, 2016, 09:44:12 am
Most likely so.
7  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Does the UK actually leave the EU in the next 3 years? on: June 24, 2016, 02:25:32 am
Cameron resigning by October  live on BBC
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation Thread: Tmthforu94 for Emergency Election Administrator on: June 23, 2016, 10:58:39 pm
AYE
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: House Bill 1002 - The Game Moderator Reform Act on: June 23, 2016, 08:31:58 pm
well w/e i guess

But what will the Senate have to say about not having a say in the confirmation of the GM?

I expect they will reject it, most likely. Tongue

Whether or not you can do something is a seperate matter from whether or not you should obviously.

Congress can give the house said authority, but the Senate has to go along obviously and the merits of giving the House this exclusive authority need to be weighed. On the one hand you have most confirmations done by the Senate exclusively, on the other hand, the GM is differnet all other appoint posts naturally.
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: House Bill 1002 - The Game Moderator Reform Act on: June 23, 2016, 07:38:27 pm
Section 2 is arguably unconstitutional, depending on whether you consider the Game Moderatorship to be an "executive office." Per Article IV, Section 2 of the Constitution, the power to confirm presidential appointments lays with the Senate; while the Constitution is less clear on whether the Game Moderator specifically is considered a cabinet officer (this has historically been the case), I do not see the Constitutional argument for giving the House exclusive jurisdiction over nominations to the Game Engine.

Not in the traditional sense, no. Hence the October 2014 crisis when DemPGH tried to fire the GM. It has also been structured differently or had the authority of the President limited, intentionally to preserve its independence.

ARTICLE VI
Section 1 (Game Engine)
i. All powers which the Congress shall deem necessary and proper for simulating either the impact of actions by the Republic of Atlasia, the several Regions, or the citizens thereof; or the actions of non-playable entities, shall be vested in a Game Engine.
ii. The Congress shall have the power to establish the structure and powers of the Game Engine by appropriate legislation.

Also, this is a pretty broad grant of power here. I am not sure what the problem is.
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: House Bill 1002 - The Game Moderator Reform Act on: June 23, 2016, 07:25:37 pm
The GM should be a cabinet position confirmed by the Senate.

Learned Nothing and Forgotten Everything!!!

For EIGHT YEARS, the primary problem with the GM has been one of ensuring him the appropriate level of "independence" to create a dynamic and evolving game for the players.

Aside from my polling (which is for purposes of convenience), the GM has never been considered a cabinet position. Under the previous two consitutions, it was structured as a semi-independent constitutional office, which was upheld in the case of Ebowed v. Atlasia (2006).

Making the GM a cabinet position, and thus subject to the orders and subordination to the PResident, is indeed the worst possible way to structure it.
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: House Bill 1001 - Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist Designation Act of 2016 on: June 23, 2016, 07:19:07 pm
the working people of egypt, mr. conservative, elected the muslim brotherhood to power in their most recent democratic elections, in case you haven't forgotten.


So? What does it matter whether or not the group was elected to office? I would hardly consider a functioning democracy one that elects groups committed to extreme fundamentalism to the point of wanting to blow countries off the map and exterminate groups of people. The fact that such groups win elections in some places, is not a mark of legitimacy on said groups, but in fact is an exemplary reason why democracy depends on strong education and a substantially more secular world view (at least to the point of not wanting to "Vote" a disliked group out of existence)".

Whether or not the Muslim Brotherhood wins an election is irrelevant. Hamas has won elections in the Palestinian terrorities and that doesn't make them any less of a terrorist group. The key here is the outlook of the Muslim Brotherhood and the tactices they are employing to bring it about.

13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Southern Regional Committee on: June 23, 2016, 07:08:09 pm
I kinda like Meridiem for the name. As for the capitAl, I prefer Nashville.
Noon?
I was thinking south, but yeah, I guess it also means noon.

I'd wager that would be rather confusing for new players, no?
14  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: My Idea for electing Supreme Court justices on: June 23, 2016, 01:35:51 pm
I can't wait until the first campaign commercial for justice Scalia jr., Preceded by his first $1,000 a plate dinner.

I think instead of law school pedigrees we should look to commercials to see who's a real American/has castrated pigs in the past.

You lost me at the word "electing". Tongue

learn to read lol

Who said anything about not reading your post? I said you "lost my support" the minute you said "electing Supreme Court Justices".

It seems your response is misdirected.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What the hell is wrong with Florida democrats? on: June 23, 2016, 01:28:24 pm
First off, lets see how it plays out.


But secondly, this forum is filled with endless with stories of these awesome red state/swing state/Southern Democrats who are going to just crush the Republicans and the forum falls in love with them based on what "they will" accomplish, usually only to get heart broken in the end. Typically, it is indeed scandal that destroys them.
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Atlasians Against Gun Violence on: June 23, 2016, 01:09:02 pm
X North Carolina Yankee

Joining the Ted and Goldwater wing of this group. I have long supported background checks and supported the failed Manchin-Toomey bill a few years back. That said, I don't support the Assault Weapons ban as I think it focuses too much on gun appearence and not enough on power of the weapon.
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Southern Regional Committee Discussion/Information Thread on: June 23, 2016, 01:02:09 pm
I just want to chime in that I don't support adding a voting age requirement to the constitution.  I understand that we're trying to be legislators and we're dealing with some make-believe constituents, but the most important constituents are Atlasian players.  There are kids that play this game, and a voting age would technically discriminate against them.  It's unnecessary and unenforceable.
I initially had that concern as well, but felt that by simply saying "voting age", per Atlasian constitution, that would just constitute as those who had a certain amount of posts and had an account that was a certain amount of days old. Do you find the proposed wording by NeverAgain to still be problematic?

Personally, I don't support adding it because it opens up the possibility of different interpretations, and I also just don't see why it needs to be there.  I guess the legislature could pass a bill defining "voting age" as those account activity requirements, but it's kind of a stretch of the meaning of the words IMO (especially since Yankee seemed to be concerned about children voting specifically).

Largely because I didn't even consider the matter from a game play perspective, but rather from an in game perspective if that makes sense.
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Southern Regional Committee on: June 23, 2016, 12:53:03 pm
I do agree with the moving switfully for the Governor and Legislative elections and also I agree with Leinad that we should if practical, put this to a vote of the people.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Southern Regional Committee on: June 23, 2016, 12:51:09 pm
My record of "socialist daliences" stands for itself. I am perfectly willing to support gurrantees of economic security through legislative means, but not in the constitution, certainly not in the constitution of a region, which lacks the extensive resources and support of the Federal Gov't. Working through budget policy, you can negotiate and recieve federal assistance. A constitutional mandate is continual and ongoing and if the Feds don't come through, everything else has to get sacrificed, from education to infrastructure.

I don't think that is a responsbile to approach to structuring a constitution and therefore there is no way I can support clause 10.
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Southern Regional Committee on: June 22, 2016, 08:31:20 am
I have deep concerns about two of the additions


9 - Does this mean that children will be voting? They are subjected to taxation if they are purchasing stuff.

10 - What is meant by economic security? I am not a fan of unfunded mandates, doubly so if they are placed within a constitutional framework, as it basically becomes a region's constitutional requirement to go bankrupt.

I don't want courts dictating budgets and fiscal policy.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of #TheShadowyAbyss on: June 22, 2016, 08:13:07 am
A passionate freedom fighter!
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: House Bill 1003 - Determination of Date and Rules For June 2016 Federal Election on: June 22, 2016, 07:52:09 am
AYE



Clark, we don't have 72 hours to wait. This election is litteraly scheduled to start in 40 hours.


Seven members have voted the same way out of nine. End it Now!!!!
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Survey Atlasia LRBR Series: May Cabinet Approval Ratings on: June 21, 2016, 09:03:58 am
Remember to Participate, this is the last ever polling on the Third Constitution's offices!!!!
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Survey Atlasia LRBR Series: May Regional Executive Approval Ratings on: June 21, 2016, 09:03:19 am
Remember to Participate, this is the last ever polling on the Third Constitution's offices!!!!
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Survey Atlasia LRBR Series: May At-Large Senator Approval Ratings on: June 21, 2016, 09:02:27 am
Remember to Participate, this is the last ever polling on the Third Constitution's offices!!!!
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