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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: IDS Voting Booth: The Bicameral Birthing Amendment of 2014 on: August 21, 2014, 03:10:47 pm
AYE
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Federalist Party: June 2014 Convention (LEADERSHIP DECLARATIONS!) on: August 21, 2014, 03:07:11 pm
I would advise both nominees to go to work immediately preferably last week. Even if I had wanted to, there is no way I could substitute my efforts for that of lack luster campaigns like in April. I will be lucky if I can even get on to vote. Tongue
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senate Office of NC Yankee (Healthcare Statement) on: August 21, 2014, 02:49:23 pm
I have reviewed the text and naturally as you would image, I have a number of concerns.

One the unnecessary name change from threads to slots could serve to create confusion, but more so it is a more restrictive approach in general not just with fewer avenues to get stuff on the floor, particularly the elimination of the executive and FP slots, but also the wording could leave a thread blocked for seven days allotted for vetoes or redrafts by the President. At present these are moved off the slot immediately and are dealt with off slot for redrafts or moved to the override slot if an override is present.

Also the override provisions are a license to commit murder and it removes the leash on expulsion rules based on competence and absenteeism meaning the Feds and Labor could gang up on Shua/Spiral and vote them forcing a special they would be disadvantaged in amongst other rather horrible posssiblities. Also the vote times seem to be randomly switched around between Amendments and final votes.

These things must be addressed in order to gain my support.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Clean Energy Act of 2014 (Debating) on: August 21, 2014, 02:37:59 pm
Clause 3 is too heavy handed even for the stated purpose.

As for the stated purpose I worry it would drive up energy costs even with the higher utilization of alternatives here.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Smack Ain't Whack Act of 2014 on: August 21, 2014, 02:35:45 pm
Abstain
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Peace and Prosperity Act of 2014 (Debating) on: August 21, 2014, 02:34:43 pm
I think we have already cut quite a lot and a 75% reduction is too much.
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Robin Williams Memorial Suicide Copy-cat Prevention Act (Debating) on: August 21, 2014, 02:26:58 pm
I also don't want to seem like an asshole (Tongue) but I'm not sure I understand the point of this bill.

As far as I can tell it tells a government department to draw up non binding guidelines to stop copy cat suicides, something I'd have hoped they'd have done anyway, but doesn't do anything else.

It is done but the purpose of this is to update, improve and strengthen those standards to ensure they reflect the latest science and studies.
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Robin Williams Memorial Suicide Copy-cat Prevention Act (Debating) on: August 21, 2014, 02:26:20 pm
I understand the concerns expressed and if it is desired that the name be changed, I am fine with that.

However, I would state that a good way to honor his memory would be to address a critical aspect of the issue and it is definitely the case that this is one that was brought to the focus specifically because of what happened to him. Therefore I don't see the name as being contradictory to the purpose.

If we're really concerned about preventing suicide, my suggestion would be to enact universal health insurance so that people can get access to proper mental health care.

Access to insurance is the one real life mental health problem that Atlasia does not share.
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Leave of Absence on: August 21, 2014, 02:22:46 pm
I will not be able to access the internet at all from August 28 to the 2nd of September. I will try to find another means of getting on in that time, but chances are slim.
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation Hearing: TyriontheImperialist for Vice President (Voting) on: August 18, 2014, 06:06:22 pm
I have not seen a response to Lumine's post. I don't know if this has been hashed out elsewhere nor do I have time to hunt for such.

So for now I will vote Nay pending a response on the matter.
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senate Office of NC Yankee (Healthcare Statement) on: August 18, 2014, 05:57:36 pm
You raised a question, and I provided a straightforward answer... I'm not sure what about that merits "calming down." All I ask is that you read it.

You seemed rather defensive, man. Tongue

I will read it later tonight. I wanted to save it on Saturday so that I could so but I ran out of time.
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senate Office of NC Yankee (Healthcare Statement) on: August 18, 2014, 04:50:48 pm
Dude calm down.

I typed that up at Midnight without the ability to review the document. I have saved it to a flash drive and will do so later tonight.

Keep in mind this is all being done remotely now.
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Public Fuel and Power Act of 2014 (Final vote) on: August 18, 2014, 04:47:02 pm
Surely debate is over anyway because the bill failed?

Debate is a procedural recognized process defined by rules and yes by nature is over before the vote starts.

Discussion and open discussion that didn't exclude non-Senators has long occurred, particularly on bills that were finished with shall we say, "unfinished business". In general outside input has always been welcomed, and if a bill is basically dead, it is hardly an imposition on the Senate, in fact such discussion is less so.
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Bicameral Birthing Amendment of 2014 (Debating) on: August 18, 2014, 04:41:15 pm
Given that the sponsor indicated that he was ready for a final vote three days ago, and given that we haven't really heard anything else substantive on this matter, I'm going to open a final vote.

Senators, a final vote is now open on this amendment. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

So what your saying is what I've been saying for the past several weeks doesn't matter to this debate?

Well, you're neither a senator, nor have any senators actually put forward your views in an amendment or as a point, so, procedurally, yes, what you're saying doesn't matter.

Cassius speaks on my behalf.

And he's voted now. Most of the Senate disagrees with this view.

I sympathize with it and continue to be rather skeptical about consolidation as an independent question. But as I see it, this is a somewhat acceptable structure, "should it come to pass" and I promised I would vote Aye if it had a regional Senate. I wish that what JCL and Cassius wanted was practical, because I would be more then willing to jump on board.

What we want is practical. I'm gonna just say it loud and clear. Even if I were not a resident of the Mideast I would oppose consolidation because of the deliberate targeting of the region while the the western two simply get to merge into one while the IDS and Northeast benefit by splitting much of said region between the two. I'm more than willing to show how my proposal would work if this fine body would like. In both three and current map scenario.

Unless you've somehow discovered a new law of mathematics it can't. The numbers simply don't fit.

How would my numbers not fit? You're only adding 5 maybe 6 seats. How does that warrant eliminating one region and merging two. The proponents of consolidation have failed to explain that.

A concern that we already have too many office,s which underlies the consolidation push.
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Adoption is an Alternative Act (Debating) on: August 18, 2014, 04:39:05 pm
I think with the privacy concerns addressed, this would be a fine proposal.
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Repeal of the War Powers Resolution Act (Debating) on: August 18, 2014, 04:37:31 pm
So all this does is repeal the former War Powers Act contigent upon the Amendment passing?
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: War Powers Amendment (Amendment at vote) on: August 18, 2014, 04:36:07 pm
Keep in mind it is a game and certainly the difference in time lengths would have a minimal enough effect to render it a reasonable sacrifice for the practicalities of the game's structure?
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Public Fuel and Power Act of 2014 (Final vote) on: August 18, 2014, 04:34:27 pm
Never has an administrator closed down the Senate to outsiders in this fashion in the five years I have been a member. Roll Eyes
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: 62nd Senate Noticeboard on: August 18, 2014, 04:32:34 pm
The theory behind the VP created thread is a dallasfan alteration from 2011 to make it so other threads wouldn't be necessary. Technically you would just post your posts containing the Noticeboard in the thread and Windjammer would just deleted the previous posts save for the OP containing the Members. Of course we have never had a VP resign, at least not since Dallasfan and that was only a few days left in the term anyway.
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Working Class Holidays Act of 2014 (Amendment at vote) on: August 18, 2014, 04:29:56 pm
Reluctant AYe in that case


I thought I was suppose to be the absent one? Tongue
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Federalist Party of Atlasia HQ, Nyman, DC (THE CONVENTION IS STILL UNDERWAY) on: August 18, 2014, 04:24:52 pm
I need to update the OP. I will do so if I have time later.
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senate Office of NC Yankee (Healthcare Statement) on: August 18, 2014, 04:23:34 pm
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I started the last one to be a short mentioned about recent events in the Senate regarding is rules and such but got carried out. This one will be shorter and will concern more the policy matters that have come before the SEnate, particularly since my postings in the individual threads have become less NC Yankee and more Goldwater (no offense man Wink).

First the Senate passage of the Bicameral Amendment is a good thing. I have not changed my views on Consolidation since I soured on the matter last November-December, but I applaud the passage of a framework for a post-consolidation gov't that suits most of my concerns and answers most of my questions. I like that the structure contains an all regional Senate and ensures the continued 50-50 balance of legislative interests. If Consolidation itself is hostile to regional interests, I am confident at least that the post-consolidation gov't does not add to that being so. I wish that more effort had been placed in the House's election methods and I fear we will struggle for some time on that should it ever go into effect. I think that the best method probably would have been some form of PR, but the public is firmly against that at this point and once it was realized, moving forward with a different option was unavoidable. I wouldn't be surprised should this come to be put into effect, that we end up changing from districts to that or back to At-Large for the second chamber at some point down the road.

Secondly, the recent passing of Robin Williams should not be ignored with regards to Atlasia. I am not quite sure how celebrity news works in the game but assume it happened unless Nappy has said otherwise. The other day on the news I heard about a phenomenon called suicide copy-cats and so I have introduced legislation to beef up the guidelines for media agencies to follow in coverage of such events. There is a difficult but critical balancing act because informing the public is essential to reducing stigma, but on the flip side the how of that informing process needs to be done with care and follow guidelines based on the best research in the field. I recall including this in the comprehrensive Mental Health bill, which failed just over a year ago (and yes I had planned to make a big fuss over the anniversary but losing my internet access forced me to drop such snarkiness in favor of bigger priorities like not becoming homeless) but I cannot recall if it was included in a subsequently passed bill or not. I am open to any revisions, or expansions if deemed appropriate once it comes to the Senate floor.

Lastly for now, I must touch on this issue of nationalizations since the esteemed former GM and alleged AG (Tongue) Simfan took issue with me "reluctant Nay" on the Power Bill. I want a system of locally opperated co-ops and preferably locally formed that can take advantage of recently deployed Smart Grid technoloy (Smart Grid Act something or other, its linked someone in the Public Fuel and Power Something or Other Thread), and thus provide competition to the privately owned companies that in many cases enjoy a monopoly like that of Duke-Energy Progress here in NC. I was thinking about this the other day, but technology has removed the monopoly of the phone companies. Many don't even have a landline and some use VoIP technology through companies like Vonage, using their broadband internet connections (because everyone has broadband surely Wink. Technically speaking, I am "no longer on dial up". Lauging at the situation helps Sad). Anyway, I am convinced, that with a Smart Grid already deployed by the Federal Government and with the Co-Op legislation of both Seatown and more recently TNF (both of which I supported), a complex federal power system like that in the public fuel and power act is unnecessary. What is needed are minor changes to the Smart Grid act and seed money to the Regions and local gov'ts as well as non-gov't organizations to encourage them to form Co-Ops. There is already a group in NC that is seeking alternatives in real life and it spans both right and left, so they surely exist in Atlasia.


I am sure some of what I have posted here will generate some coments and even criticisms. I appreciate that, but keep in mind, it could be a "considerable while" before I have time to answer them all. Fortunately my neighbor's internet is DSL, but you can only squeeze so much into thirty to forty-five minutes twice or three times a week. Tongue
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senate Office of NC Yankee (Healthcare Statement) on: August 18, 2014, 04:22:30 pm
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Press Release -

Last Saturday I had the unforunate displeasure of having to withdraw from the election for PPT. It was not my preference to drop out of a race in such a manner, but it is unfortunately the case that managing the Senate would be virtually impossible for the next few weeks as my access to the internet will be reduced to just two or three times a week for the foreseable future. I would have preferred a more fitting circumstance of one where I had a complete choice, and such was not the case here for my present circumstances forced the decision to withdraw.

I do have confidence that TNF can be a good PPT, but the question of whether he will or not is an entirely different manner. The role of impartial administrator is not a natural one for TNF nor will the transformation of the position into something that it has not been for at least five years under multiple PPTs both right and left, but into something that is more suited to his style find anything but disappointment and discouragement for all those involved in the Senate including I would wager, himself. There are many Laborite Senators who are more suited to the position as it has been constituted and I told the then Vice President Windjammer, that if Labor wanted the PPTship, they would be better off with bore, Tyrion or even Adam and let TNF continue as a policy leader something he is most skilled at. I can say from experience that service as PPT can be limiting, if for no other reason then time constraints, on the ability to craft and pass a legislative agenda.

I also will say that seeing as I now am out of the position can speak frankly, I think the desire on the part of some to transform the PPTship into something that it is not merely for the sake doing so, or to effect some real life false equivalency is a mistake. Some on the left have come to regard holding the PPTship as necessary to advance an agenda, or stop one from being blocked. I have never blocked a bill because of what side it come from and I have administered Senates that were rather left wing including presiding over the Senate that banned capital punishment or in the case of last year passed numerous pieces of TNF's legislation that I had issues with. This is probably because the first example of a PPT I witnessed was MasterJedi, and him being PPT did nothing to stop or prevent the passage of Fritzcare, which he opposed. He brought it up, administered it efficiently and effectively, and the vast majority of the Senate of passed what it wanted regardless of his personal views. People like MasterJedi, like bgwah, and many others with a long history of strongly held personal and political view have held the post in the past five years, yet have not fundamentally transformed the general character of the position or sought in an aggressive fashion to manipulate the existing rules to make it so, leaving the position what it is, an administrator who operates with minimal bias and the maximum amount of efficience and more often then not has elected PPTs far more based on merit then on politics or party. For most all of 2012, I was PPT and yet was the only IB (and also IHJ Wink) Senator in the chamber.   

There are some who have stated a belief that the transformation of the position into a partisan office will increase the competativeness of elections. Whilst this theory is understandable, it fails to account for the fact that the left has typically dominated the Senate more often then not and likely result of a partisan administration would be more often then not a partisan leftwing Senate administration as well. This would in turn mean that fewer Conservatives would be motivated to run and vote, not more, leading to less competativeness. While I am on this topic, I will acknowlege that old Nixy baby has recently crafted a complete overhaul of the rules. Hopefully, with the man whose era witnessed the end of Comprehensive Projects as a practical tool leading the charge, the chances of such an overhaul happening are good. However, I have not had a chance to review the details in full and I will be sure do just that. Nixy has long been a proponent of a partisan administration on the basis of the justification included of above, and whilst I have slipped some, I have not fallen so far as to let him slip such through in a giant overall. Tongue

This gets me to another point and I am pleased to hear that my old friend is now leading a charge on a separation of powers issues considering his past on the matter. I realize many, even in my own party were concerned about the role that now former Vice President Windjammer had taken on. I share that concern to some extent, but on the flip side, I worry that the reaction to this will turn back the clock and leave us back where we were before MaroDuke and before Nix/DemPGH when Vice Presidents ran for the office as a means to retire from Atlasia. The knowledge that Vice Presidents will have to be active participants has I think led to a change in the calculus made for VP selections and I think we can see that with Tyrion's selection, considering his background with OSPR amendments and rule changes. I will also be reviewing the rules proposal to ensure that the Vice President is maintained in an important capacity and an active one at that. I would say this that if the bicameral legislation were to go into effect, a scale back role for the VP with the Senate would be necessary since most have desired that he be a liason between the two chambers, between the PPT and a possible Speaker. This also concerns me because Nix's rules contain a Speakership for the Senate, and such would be out of place, particularly if we end up with a People's House, where a Speaker would be far more fitting. I should note at this point that Nix's original plan for post-consolidation was a unicameral twelve member legislation so I am not certain as to whether or not this is a subtle poke at the Bicameral proposals of Duke and Adam or if this fits into that matter of bicameralism at all. At the very least we should consider the potential now and thus minimize the needed rule changes if a bicameral system goes into effect.
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Federalist Party: June 2014 Convention (LEADERSHIP DECLARATIONS!) on: August 18, 2014, 04:05:16 pm
If I need to confirm Rpryor and Cris as their respective Regional Chairs, then I do so right now.

If Riley still wants the ME, its his, if not is anyone else interested?
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: IDS Save our Utilites Act (Amending) on: August 16, 2014, 06:47:33 pm
I agree, my point is that such would resolve existing problems with the system and thus eliminate any such present problems from being used as motivation.
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