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15551  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: We Need More Political Parties Amendment (Debating) on: April 21, 2013, 02:33:57 pm
I am actually kind of mixed on this one myself, though I could see the benefits from having more parties, I am not sure if lowering this will have that much of an impact in that regard.

Basically, you gonna have to carry the load on this Marokai. Tongue
15552  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / SENATE BILL: We Need More Political Parties Amendment (Sent to the Regions) on: April 21, 2013, 02:32:06 pm
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We Need More Political Parties Amendment

Article V, Section 1, Clause 7 of the Constitution is hereby amended to read the following:

"7. Any political party of three or more members is considered to be an organized political party. The benefits of being an organized political party may be determined by the Senate by appropriate legislation."

Sponsor: NC Yankee for the President
15553  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The White House: Marokai/Duke, 3/13- (Executive action) on: April 21, 2013, 02:27:12 pm
Mr. President,

The Repeal of Lost Legislation Act has passed the Senate and is presented for your signature or veto.


Regards;
Senator NC Yankee,
Senate President Pro-Tempore.
15554  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Repeal of Lost Legislation Act (On the President's Desk) on: April 21, 2013, 02:23:42 pm
Quote from: Final Text
Repeal of Lost Legislation Act


A BILL


To permanently rid Atlasia of laws that have faded from memory;

1. All laws passed since May 4, 2004 and before January 1, 2013 that are not included on the Atlasia Wiki's Statutes page as of the time of this bill's passage are hereby repealed.

2. To avoid repealing laws that have been maliciously or accidentally removed from the wiki, an exception shall be made for any legitimate law that has been listed on the Statutes page at any point between January 1, 2013 and the date of this law's passage. These laws shall remain in effect.
15555  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Repeal of Lost Legislation Act (On the President's Desk) on: April 21, 2013, 02:22:21 pm
Vote on Final Passage of the Repeal of Lost Legislation Act:

Aye (6): AverroŽs Nix, Ben, jdb, Matt from VT, Napoleon and Snowstalker
Nay (3): HagridoftheDeep, NC Yankee and sbane
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (1): Clarence

With six votes in the affirmative and time having expired, the bill has been passed and transmitted to the President for executive action.
15556  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Fair Deregistration Rights Act (Debating) on: April 21, 2013, 02:14:43 pm
The sponsor has 24 hours to advocate for this bill.
15557  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / SENATE BILL: Fair Deregistration Rights Act (Law'd) on: April 21, 2013, 02:13:00 pm
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Fair Deregistration Rights Act

1. All Atlasian citizens shall have the right to deregister from the official voting roll by informing the Secretary of Federal Elections by public post.

2. After seven days since the public notice of deregistration have passed, the citizen's registration will be removed from the voting roll. The citizen may inform the SoFE by public post that he/she rescinds his/her deregistration before the seven days have passed without penalty or change in registration status.

3. Any person who has deregistered shall no longer be allowed to vote in any federal poll or win election to any office in Atlasia. If a deregistered person is elected to any office in Atlasia, the office shall be declared vacant.

4. Any person who has registered shall not be able to register again in Atlasia for sixty days following his/her deregistration.

5. Any deregistered person who reregisters remains bound by Article V, Section 2, Clause 6 of the constitution and must reregister in the state and region he/she was registered in before deregisteration unless the appropriate amount of time has passed since his/her last move.

Sponsor: AverroŽs Nix
15558  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The White House: Marokai/Duke, 3/13- (Executive action) on: April 21, 2013, 02:08:08 pm
Mr. President,

The Libertas Doesn't Undertsand Fusion Voting Act has passed the Senate and is presented for your signature or veto.

Regards;
Senator NC Yankee,
Senate President Pro-Tempore.
15559  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Libertas Doesn't Understand Fusion Voting Act (OTPD) on: April 21, 2013, 02:05:23 pm
Quote from: Final Text
Libertas Doesn't Understand Fusion Voting Act

1. The Fusion Ballot Reform Act is hereby repealed.
15560  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Libertas Doesn't Understand Fusion Voting Act (OTPD) on: April 21, 2013, 02:03:44 pm
Vote on Final Passage of the Libertas Doesn't Undertsand Fusion Voting Act:

Aye (5): AverroŽs Nix, Ben, NC Yankee, sbane and Snowstalker
Nay (3): HagridoftheDeep, Matt from VT, and Napoleon
Abstain (1): jdb

Didn't Vote (1): Clarence

With five votes in the affirmative and time having expired, the bill is passed and transmitted to the President for executive action.
15561  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Al D'Amato: 'You've Got To Be A Jackass To Be Voting Against Background Checks' on: April 21, 2013, 01:58:53 pm
Freedom Fighter.

Too bad Al D'Amato is a corrupt piece of sheiss.

I agree with him on this point, but lets remember his real legacy.

What kind of corruption? The usual NY thing, or worse?

The only legacy I am aware of regarding him is his reputation for being blunt and at times a real dick with his public commentary, which contributed partially to his defeat.
15562  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Atlasian Sentinel: At-Large Senate and IDS Tracker! on: April 21, 2013, 01:55:42 pm
Looks like you missed my vote. I'm not Holmes, remember.

Are you telling us Hatman and Holmes are not the same person Huh

Really?

But thats Crazy! Tongue


Hey it is better than the garbage that has been hijacking this thread since last night. Tongue
15563  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Al D'Amato: 'You've Got To Be A Jackass To Be Voting Against Background Checks' on: April 21, 2013, 01:45:42 pm
Lol. Didn't he primary a moderate Republican back in the 80s? And now he sounds like the flaming liberal. The GOP's descent into madness has been so fast.

The guy he primaried, Jacob Javitts was one of those actually sort of liberal Republicans, who are obviously long gone. D'Amato was as far right-wing a Senator as you can possibly imagine being elected 3 times in New York State in the last 35 years. Only once did he win by more than a couple of points.

In some ways, his history is not all that different from that of Pat Toomey thirty years hence. Just with Specter being less liberal then Javits and not even attempting the primary in the GOP. Just like Toomey is now, D'Amato did a good job representing his state, while also still preserving his conservative principles.
15564  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The On Second Thought, We Do Have Expectations Amendment (VoA) on: April 20, 2013, 05:35:55 pm
And why bother trying to offer a compromise or an idea to bridge a gap, that will just get trashed too. I am sure the inactives will be really encouraged to participate with that kind of attitude, Mr. President. Roll Eyes

I meant crafting the standard so that it was most efficient for each office. Like a specific requirement for the Justices on a case by case basis for instance, as opposed to a post requirement? But hell, lets just fill in the details ourselves so we can trash the idea, because heaven forbid it might actually be a good one or something. Roll Eyes
15565  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The On Second Thought, We Do Have Expectations Amendment (VoA) on: April 20, 2013, 05:29:00 pm
It is so nice when five minutes of bluster or pontificating renders null two weeks of preparation on something. Well that plan can be trashed... Roll Eyes

Your second parapraph is basically saying that creating a tough standard, actually causes the violation in the first place.

The rest of your post would only be accurate if I had called for an exception for the Senate, AND I DID NOT!!!!! I challenge you to find it, Maraoki.

What I did say was that we should avoid redundancy because WE ALREADY HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT DOES THE SAME THING!!, and that was only if this was made to apply only to the Senate, WHICH WAS YOUR IDEA!!! Roll Eyes I even offered to toughen the existing standard, twice, in multiple locations. Don't you dare lie about what I said!

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Guess what the Senate has the power to do? Impeach people. If there's a hideously inactive or just plain bad official, whether it's the Supreme Court, the cabinet, or even me (the President), you have the authority to open impeachment hearings on getting rid of them. Why don't you do this? Because that would require you to make tough choices and make them personal. You would be campaigning against a specific individual, you might end up making enemies in the process, impeachment would be a difficult process for everyone who just wants to hold hands and gather around in a loving circle jerk each night, to actually initiate.

WTF, Man?!!! Like conviently trash FOUR years of experience dealing with somebody for the sake of making a momentary point. YOU THINK I GIVE A DAMN ABOUT PISSING SOMEONE OFF? This post should testify to the point that I don't. And if you throw another "you" at me in a derisive fashion, I'll shove it down your throat, man. Like what the hell have you been doing since 2009? Asleep? Blind? Got some memory issues there?

Of course people are too nice around here and aren't as willing to take such actions. You are preaching to the fing choir here. However, if I restrain from taking such an action as impeachment, it is because the reality of this place makes it impossible, and I refuse to engage in an activity that I think in the end might not only backfire, but also render the situation worse.  However, with such a situation as it is, I am not inclined to refrain from a strategic approach motivated in response to such a reality that still achieves the desired ends, something which you seem unwilling or incapable of doing. Perhaps if you should consider a similar approach and then maybe you wouldn't be left disatisfied in the end all the time.
15566  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: IDS April 2013 Regional Election on: April 20, 2013, 05:07:00 pm
Official Ballot:

Offices:

IDS Emperor:
[1] SJoyceFla (LIGHT-FL)
[2] Zanas46 (LAB-AL)

Imperial Legislature:
[1] jerryarkansas (FED-AR) (i)
[2] Velasco (LAB-TX) (i)
[ ] Write-in:
15567  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: US House Redistricting: North Carolina on: April 20, 2013, 02:15:52 pm
Yea, that would probably not be that helpfull.


I will look into contacting mine, but this computer is unstable and I am leary of going to unknown sites for the time being, including a legislator's website.
15568  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Repeal of Lost Legislation Act (At Final Vote) on: April 20, 2013, 02:11:32 pm
NAY


This bill has enough votes to pass, Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.
15569  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The On Second Thought, We Do Have Expectations Amendment (VoA) on: April 20, 2013, 02:07:11 pm
2-5-0-3

Clarence, jdb and sbane have yet to vote.
15570  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: US House Redistricting: North Carolina on: April 20, 2013, 02:01:14 pm
Be quicker with that information next time, before I go and get all...and stuff! Tongue


Is there any better chance of it getting through the Senate this time?


Did you email your State Senator on the matter, too?
15571  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: US House Redistricting: North Carolina on: April 20, 2013, 01:52:09 pm
House Bill 606, a bipartisan bill that creates an independent redistricting process, seems to be gaining steam.

OH GOD, YES!!!


Makes disturbingly, and seemingly sensually motivated, facial expression
15572  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Why would anyone want to run for Congress? (NJ) on: April 19, 2013, 03:44:26 pm
Its a vicious cycle for one produced by gerrymandering, money and the need to please primary (right) and donors (left) making general elections harder. And if control is expected to be in GOP hands, then you have trouble recruit Dem candidates for the House because of that. That is why a lot of reasonably winnable territory in the MA House and other places went unchallenged, because who would want to be one of the thirty in a chamber of 150 or 160. This destroys the bench in deep blue or red states and reduces competition for House, Senate and Governorships. We are probably seeing this creep up the ballot to the House and even the Senate.

It takes more money then ever, even more so if you don't have high name recognition and finally there are two many groups to be pleased and appeased before you even get out of the gate and in many cases the candidate's fate has already been thus sealed. The money flows to the incumbent from the big money groups and unless there is a reasonable chance of a win, the challenger will get very little.

So yea, we are probably going back to a high percentage of congressman being returned to office again. Until the next wave washes a bunch out from one side or the other.
15573  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: LA and NC 2014 Congressional Races on: April 19, 2013, 03:11:15 pm
Why is it that Berry got those numbers in Wake and the Triad? Is she from one or the other?


When I put her on my original list of five (not to be confused with your lame five, which is something entirely different. Tongue Of course I can't even remember more then four of the people on put on said list now) good candidates, it was because she was elected statewide. I wasn't aware of which metro, if any, that she had a connection with at the time.
15574  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: TX AG Abbott peddles UN conspiracy theories, compares Dems to Kim Jong Un on: April 19, 2013, 10:22:51 am
No one can own a thread quite like Mecha can. Smiley
15575  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The On Second Thought, We Do Have Expectations Amendment (VoA) on: April 19, 2013, 10:00:43 am
Is it an unreasonable imposition to inquire as to why we should pursue this matter in this fashion, in light of what I said previously, if it is so desired to be restricted only to the Senate?

 
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