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76  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HB - Voting Rights Amendment (Amended, Final Vote) on: June 19, 2017, 07:02:15 pm
Reluctant Aye


Because it never should have been amended in the way that it was, but whatever.
77  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SB 2017-104: The 21st Century Glass Stegall Act (Debating) on: June 19, 2017, 07:00:42 pm
Sorry for missing this. Tongue

I read over the bill, I support it, and with that, I'd like to assume sponsorship.  My only concern is I wonder if 10% is enough to force entities to comply?

I mean, if that's what's in the Warren bill, that seems fine with me. Tongue

Quote
(i) order, after due notice and oppor-
14 tunity for hearing, the entity to terminate
15 the activity and, as relevant, dispose of the
16 investment;
17 (ii) order, after the procedures de-
18 scribed in clause (i), the entity to pay a
19 penalty equal to 10 percent of the entity’s
20 net profits, averaged over the previous 3
21 years, into the United States Treasury;
22 and
23 (iii) initiate proceedings described

https://www.warren.senate.gov/files/documents/21stCenturyGlassSteagall.pdf
78  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: State-by-state senatorial election maps (August 2016-present) on: June 19, 2017, 06:53:32 pm
Nice!
79  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SB 2017-103: The Ending High Fructose Corn Syrup Subsidization Act (Debating) on: June 19, 2017, 06:04:18 am
All sugar is going to be bad for you in terms of the quantities consumed by most everyday Atlasian's.

However, what sugar you do intake should come from raw cane sugar, 100% honey or 100% pure maple syrup.


I'm deeply wary of removing all sugar tariffs. The research I could find on the subject suggests that Atlasian production would be hit, especially in cane sugar (-8%), while employment in sugar production (-2.8%) and sugar processing (-1.6%) would slide. I'm not sure that that's worth it for what's at most a 1% decline in the cost of refined sugar.

Yes, but if we can displace corn syrup with cane sugar in many production lines of foods, that will actually increase overall demand for cane sugar, so I think the impact state would be mitigated by increased demand.
80  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SB 2017-104: The 21st Century Glass Stegall Act (Debating) on: June 19, 2017, 05:57:29 am
So just like in the House, the Laborite members react to "GLASS-STEAGALL" with silence? So like I don't get this reaction. What is this, what even is this? Y'all get your Wall Street Donations this week or something?



So like I composed this in severely truncated Atlasian form based off a rather long but surprisingly not too long pdf file containing one Elizabeth Warren, ELIZABETH WARREN's RL bill on the subject.


Also, don't forget PiT to get Senate sponsors for House legislation. Tongue
81  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HB - Defund TSA Act (Debating) on: June 19, 2017, 05:53:22 am
Leinad is now the sponsor of this bill for the House.
82  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HB - Common Sense Gun Control Act (Debating) on: June 19, 2017, 05:52:30 am
If this bill is not amended, I will have to vote against it and it has been sitting for a week now as it is.
83  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HOUSE BILL: The Storm Surge, Coastal Flooding... (Debating) on: June 19, 2017, 05:47:36 am
Quote from: Final House Text
House Bill
To provide investments into research and infrastructure

Quote
The Storm Surge, Coastal Flooding, and Tsunami Prevention Act of 2017
1. 500 Million dollars shall be allocated to research new ways to prevent and/or hinder storm surge flooding from hurricanes, tropical storms, and nor'easters along the Gulf of Mexico and Atlantic Ocean coastlines of Atlasia.
2. 500 Million dollars shall be allocated to research new ways to prevent and/or hinder tsunami-based flooding from earthquakes and landslides both local and distant along the Pacific Ocean coastline of Atlasia.
3. Up to 8 Billion dollars shall be set aside and in reserve for construction of various dams, barrier islands, and potential seawalls once the research of how this may be accomplished and what, if any impact this may have on the environment is complete.
4. Climate Change may also be considered, particularly along vulnerable urban coastlines for prevention of coastal flooding as well.
Atlasian People's House of Representatives
Passed 8-0, in the Atlasian House Assembled,

84  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HOUSE BILL: The Storm Surge, Coastal Flooding... (Passed - Sent to VP/PPT) on: June 19, 2017, 05:45:12 am
Vote on Final Passage of The Storm Surge, Costal Flooding, etc...

Aye (Cool: Clyde, Dereich, Leinad, LLR, NC Yankee, OneJ, Peebs, and Pessimistic
Nay (0):
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (1): CMB222 (on Leave)

The legislation has been adopted and is sent to the Vice President and the PPT for Senate action. 
85  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HOUSE BILL: The Currency of Atlasia Act (Debating) on: June 19, 2017, 05:42:54 am
Why does it have to be a who? It might be a better idea to have natural features like the Appalachian mountains, or man-made structures like the Statue of Liberty, or perhaps American inventions or achievements like the Moon landing--i.e. instead of a person, a place or a thing.

If we do go with people, it should probably be RL ones, as Atlasians would be awkward given that several contenders are still active in the game, and there would be inconsistencies and points of contention over what pictures we use for them. Should we go the real life people route, some nominees could include (only listing dead people, partially to keep me from just hackishly naming a bunch of people I like): MLK, Thomas Paine, Susan B. Anthony, Mark Twain, H.D. Thoreau, Muhammad Ali, Jackie Robinson, Jimi Hendrix, Charlie Chaplin--or if those suggestions sound too fun and interesting, go the boring route and pick a bunch of old Presidents. Tongue

So salty! Tongue


Anyway I don't seem to be picking up too much interest here in this aspect of the matter. So if nothing else is said or amendments offered, I am afraid I will have to move to a final vote. I will give 24 hours on the matter (which will probably be 40 because being on at this time Tuesday is unlikely. Tongue)
86  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HOUSE BILL: Bioengineered Food Disclosure Act (Debating) on: June 19, 2017, 05:39:57 am
Representative Leinad, do you have any data on the potential cost of the labeling requirement and who would bare that cost?


CMB, do you have any information you would like to present on the potential harm that GMO is causing?


Right now I am leaning towards voting no, but I am still open to being swayed by information presented.

And you guys in the peanut gallery can jump in and offer your sentiments, questions and positions as well. You are extremely late. Well past 72 hours. Tongue

Edit: Crap, forgot he is on Leave.

Does anyone else have any articles or information on the matter then.
87  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: State-by-state senatorial election maps (August 2016-present) on: June 19, 2017, 05:21:17 am
Add the coalition votes together.


The Coalition won the PV 50.4 to 49.6 and won the House by one vote. According to your charts, that meanst the coalition won 57-43 in the South, Labor won Lincoln 58-42 and The Coalition won Fremont 51-49.


STV tracks rather well with the popular vote with high numbers of seats (like 9 in this case).

February had a full 5 Feds and 5 Laborites. The Federalists won 5 seats and won 51.667% of the HPV.

You should be able to map both February and April for House.
88  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Wulfric for Fremont Senate on: June 19, 2017, 05:06:11 am
Health Care - I believe that the real life Affordable Care Act (ObamaCare) is a decent blueprint, but it is far from perfect. Certain provisions such as the medical device tax, the cadillac tax, and the 30 hour rule would be very unlikely to earn my support. Meanwhile, there are also provisions that I believe should be added into the ObamaCare model, such as a public option, a longer open enrollment period, and adding dental services to the list of services that health plans must offer.

The bill the President has been working on has dental listed among the public option's covered provisions and to my knowledge enrollment is open all year.

This is especially critical in case a region fails to offer required coverage options, say a regional public option or co-op shuts down or a regional regulation causes an exchange to fail to offer preventative care or something, people can enroll in the AtlasCare program at any time.

So that aspect is not only part of the program, it is necessary to enable the regional involvement.


Anyway, Endorsed!
89  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Barnes for Senate--Response to unwarranted aspersions cast against my character on: June 19, 2017, 04:59:55 am
One must assume these allegations are intended as a sort of vaguely-comedic self-parody, for the charge that Barnes is remotely in danger of becoming a "rubber-stamp" is so absurdly ahistorical as to approach farce. Anyone who is at all familiar with the Speaker's record in elected office can testify that Mr. Barnes is among the most thorough and independent-minded legislators in elected office today, and to insinuate otherwise in a lame attempt to slander one's way to elected office is simply ridiculous. Perhaps if Mr. Wulfric had accomplished anything of note in his sleepy tenure as a Legislator on the Fremont Assembly, he would not feel the need to make such spurious accusations.

You do realize he has a long history of resigning from office, often abruptly. One of these incidents occurred during your time here, Truman. Perhaps that is changed, but it is completely reasonable to bring up that history or at least ask questions about it.

I seem to recall working on a rural broadband bill one time with him. The bill I think survived and passed, Barnes did not. Tongue
90  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Quick question on: June 19, 2017, 04:44:59 am
It would be ironic if this amendment were to be adopted without objection and the underlying result is that the underlying Amendment returns to the House and gets killed there just like the previous one got killed in the Senate. Tongue

Which made no sense because the basis for said amendment to the amendment was that "it had previously been done", which I established it had not been.

And I warned of the Consequences of taking said action in terms of delay and potential failure, and yet it is Yankee and the Federalists fault for delaying this? Tongue
91  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Quick question on: June 19, 2017, 04:41:42 am
Quote
A House Resolution
to amend the constitution so as to ensure a proper and reasonable requirements for voting


Be it resolved in both houses of Congress assembled and ratified by 2/3rds of the Regions


Title: Voting Rights Amendment

Upon ratification by two-thirds of the regions, Article I.4 of the Fourth Constitution shall be amended as follows:

Quote
The right of citizens of the Republic of Atlasia to vote shall not be denied, except in regards to persons whose account is fewer than 168 hours old, as punishment for crimes of which the accused has been duly convicted, or in consequence of failing to meet such requirements for frequent posting or term of residency as may be established by law; but no ballot shall be counted as valid that should list the candidates for office in a script other than the Latin alphabet, or that has been edited more than twenty minutes after its posting in the voting booth. All posts made in the voting booth shall be considered as ballots, and no citizen shall cast multiple ballots in any one election during the period the voting booth is open, upon penalty of the invalidation of their vote.
Atlasian People's House of Representatives
Passed 9-0, in the Atlasian House Assembled,


Amended Form (Displayed Above):
Atlasian Regional Senate
Passed 5-0-1 in the Atlasian Senate assembled
Be it resolved, X Senator PiT, PPT
So why it has not been passed?
[/quote]

Because Scott, 20RP12 and Siren voted to remove the line that banned campaigning in the voting booth from the above amendment, despite my warnings not to. Tongue

Otherwise this would probably be passing ratification this weekend or last weekend.
92  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Quick question on: June 19, 2017, 04:38:39 am
The constitution mandates that the President of Congress administers returning amended bills and there is a bunch of Senate bills that need to come before the House.

There is however nothing that mandates a certain order so the best I can do is have Goldwater bring it up in the next House VP administered slot that comes open.
93  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Quick question on: June 19, 2017, 04:32:25 am
Quote
A House Resolution
to amend the constitution so as to ensure a proper and reasonable requirements for voting


Be it resolved in both houses of Congress assembled and ratified by 2/3rds of the Regions


Title: Voting Rights Amendment

Upon ratification by two-thirds of the regions, Article I.4 of the Fourth Constitution shall be amended as follows:

Quote
The right of citizens of the Republic of Atlasia to vote shall not be denied, except in regards to persons whose account is fewer than 168 hours old, as punishment for crimes of which the accused has been duly convicted, or in consequence of failing to meet such requirements for frequent posting or term of residency as may be established by law; but no ballot shall be counted as valid that should list the candidates for office in a script other than the Latin alphabet, or that has been edited more than twenty minutes after its posting in the voting booth. All posts made in the voting booth shall be considered as ballots, and no citizen shall cast multiple ballots in any one election during the period the voting booth is open, upon penalty of the invalidation of their vote.
Atlasian People's House of Representatives
Passed 9-0, in the Atlasian House Assembled,


Amended Form (Displayed Above):
Atlasian Regional Senate
Passed 5-0-1 in the Atlasian Senate assembled
Be it resolved, X Senator PiT, PPT
[/quote]
94  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Quick question on: June 19, 2017, 04:25:19 am
Actually, I see now, they amended Truman's original text at the beginning of June, removing the prohibition on the ban on campaigning in the voting booth, against the advice of myself and Truman if memory serves me.


So better yet, tell them to stop obstructing Truman's flawlessly beautiful texts. Tongue
95  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Quick question on: June 19, 2017, 04:20:01 am
Bullsh**t!


The Federalist Majority House, passed it back in April:
Vote on Final House Passage of the Voting Rights Amendment:

Aye (9): Drew, Enduro, Heisenberg, NC Yankee, OneJ_, Peebs, Potus, Simossad (technically too late), and Ted
Nay (0):
Abstain (0):

Didn't vote (0):

The Resolution has passed the House and is sent to the Senate/VP.  

Which Peebs should know, since that was back when she still voted regularly.

Tell your Laborite friends to get off their asses in the Senate. Tongue
96  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Re-elect Pessimistic Antineutrino to the People's House! on: June 19, 2017, 03:57:45 am
Endorsed! Smiley
97  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: NC Yankee For the People's House HQ: Main Street First!!! (TOWNHALL!!!) on: June 19, 2017, 03:39:20 am
I'm new to Atlasia, so I really don't know what is going on. Can you help me? lol

It is a simulated political environment, where you run for office, vote for candidates. There is a limited game moderator system that attempts to enable policy making once in office though it sometimes doesn't work or gets ignored when it does, which detracts from the game.

You can also do polling, run/found a newspaper or political pressure/advocacy group, so there is some degree of civic activism outside of running for/holding office.

There are two levels of Government:
Federal: Two House legislature (People's House and Regional Senate), President, Supreme Court (five Members). The People's House is 9 members elected At-Large and the Senate is six members, elected by the regions.

Regional: Two Senators (in the Regional Senate) each, a Governor, State legislatures, and Regional Associate Justices who also serve on the national Supreme Court. There are 3 Regions, Lincoln (north), Fremont (West) and the South (We don't have a name, because like with everything involving the South, there is either a bad history, drama or both).

We have two major party's:
Federalist - Right of Center. We have three major factions and three caucuses that try and represent them, though getting people to participate in them has been difficult at best. They are:
                    The Main Street Partnership - Moderates, center-right types and and even a few      center left and liberals.
                    The Coolidge Society - Social Conservatives, Conservatarians, and some Libertarians
                    Non-Interventionist - Libertarians, centrists and people of all ideological stripes who oppose foreign intervention.

There is of course some overlap between all of those groups.

Labor - The major leftist party in the game. Generally split between two groups on foreign policies and a divide between what in real life would be the Clinton-Sanders divide. But I am not an expert on that side so I will just leave it at that.



98  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: NC Yankee For the People's House HQ: Main Street First!!! (TOWNHALL!!!) on: June 19, 2017, 03:16:57 am
what is your abortion stance

I am pro-life, but I support the big three exceptions.

In terms of policy, my first priority would be to discourage abortions through a combination of access to contraceptives, safe surrender, adoption and economic assistance to struggling families in the form of a working healthcare system (like the one myself, President Dfw, Senators Scott and PiT) are working on, a "living income" (through a combination of higher minimum wage and much higher EITC, since if we rely solely on the minimum wage, the Wall Street thugs will start replacing humans with robots) and reforming higher education so that we aren't fueling an ever downward spiral of tuition inflation that keeps higher education out of reach and makes assisting the poor and middle class ever more difficult, while wealthy people get another pile of cash dumped on them in name of "free college".

The big theme of my campaign is to return power from Pennsylvania Avenue to Main Street and return money from Wall Street to Main Street. Too often you hear conservatives rail against the centralization of power in DC, but turn a blind eye to the concentration of wealth and power on Wall Street and too often you see leftist rail against the concentration of money on Wall Street but not the concentration of power in DC.

In my opinion you cannot address the issue of abortion in isolation from the factors that are decimating the Atlasian People, situations that lead to economic ruin of many families, and too much of that is the result of power being concentrated in the hands of both centers in our country and to me conservatism should be about empowering and preserving the power of the People against all forms of concentrated power, rather than opposing the one and turning a blind eye to the other. If a tool or policy to be used in the quest for such restoration violate what is generally accepted dogma on the right or the left, so be it.
99  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: June 19, 2017, 02:49:10 am
I don't know much about this, but it seem like something fun...


vern1988
Federalist
North Carolina


Welcome to the Game, The Party and the Region! Smiley
100  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: HB - Defund TSA Act (Debating) on: June 17, 2017, 03:46:25 am
Representatives have 48 hours to object to Leinad's assumption of sponsorship.


for some reason I thought I already did this, must have not gone through during those mid hour early morning slow downs.
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