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76  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Support for Carers Bill 2014 (Debating) on: September 13, 2014, 04:15:58 pm
Did we ever pass the previous Support for Carers Bill or was that failed last year?

It got tabled.

Like I said, you should have just ran again and strung it together for a few weeks until your availability improved. Wink Compared to what actually occurred, that would been far superior to four months of comic sans. Tongue

That said, if I recall correctly, we did keep the bill alive for a rather long time after you left. Lets hope the GM problem doesn't hinder it again, for that had a very negative impact on it last year.
77  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Job Guarantee Act of 2014 (Debating) on: September 13, 2014, 04:10:30 pm
Employers want to make money and if they only way they can is to expand and hire more people they will do so. Our goal should be to make policies that will encourage expansion, and aggressive inflationary practices and the high interest rates created by excessive borrowing would hinder such expansion and create a self-fulfilling policy, moving hiring from the private investment to the gov't spending and leave us with likely a net loss of jobs, not gain.
78  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Post Dissolution Elections: October 2012 on: September 13, 2014, 04:02:06 pm
I voted for Napoleon.  I came to regret that vote.

As soon as the next month if I recall accurately.
79  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Post Dissolution Elections: October 2012 on: September 12, 2014, 06:44:44 pm
My goodness, I don't even remember this election. Of course, I don't really remember many between late 2011 and February 2013.


I remember this one because it was kind of my idea to get Jbrase to run in the first place. It would have been fun to have an all IB/IHJ/IDS ticket in the White House.

I also helped you run your reelection campaign to the legislature that election. I recently read through my old logs in the AIM logger as a substitute for not being able to talk to my friends. It didn't work. Sad
80  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Post Dissolution Elections: June 2012 on: September 12, 2014, 06:40:34 pm
Long before my time, but I imagine that I would have voted for Clarence. Anyhow, what happened to Napoleon?

There are two reasons why we had what was effectively a two-party system for over a year following Napoleon's presidency. The first is that Griffin is the game's most effective political organizer since bgwah's heyday as JCP Chair. The second is that Napoleon's toxic personality burnt a hole straight through the center-left. While Napoleon was extremely skilled at whipping votes, he was so incapable of dealing with his more active allies that he alienated them one by one - Cincinnatus, Oakvale, myself, Scott, etc.

Many people argue that the game inevitably gravitates toward two dominant parties, one representing the left and the other the right. I disagree - and I think we've been drifting away from two-party dominance for months - but even for those who subscribe to this view, Labor's ascension and the collapse of the Liberals requires an explanation.

Of course Napoleon's presidency was an entertaining (albeit frustrating) time for those of us in the Senate, and working with the anti-administration coalition during the winter of 2012-2013 might be the most fun I've had in Atlasia.

It was actually fantastic.

In so many different ways too.
81  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The White House: Just DemPGH! (V.P. Nomination) on: September 12, 2014, 06:38:33 pm
Dear Edward, you should have just taken the Marokai approach and avoided the court altogether. It would have worked. Wink
82  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senate Office of NC Yankee (Healthcare Statement) on: September 12, 2014, 06:32:33 pm
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Press Release -


In the aftermath of the Ferguson situation, one issue of concern has arisen and a possible solution has as well. The former would of course be the militarization of the police forces, which on the day of the 911 anniversary, we must be mindful of the reason in large part for why this has come to be. On the other hand we must acknowledge the disturbing trend as well the distance it has served to create between both the public and the Police. We must ensure that we are continuing to provide the necessary resources for all our first responders including the police. However, we must also take measures to ensure that we are ensuring that our Police don't end up in a defacto war with our own people.

One solution to this is the possibility of filming all encounters between the Police and the Public. This provides a video record of all such encounters that can be reviewed to determined what happened, and thus protect civilians from Police brutality and the violations of procedures that can lead to such tragedies, whilst at the same time protect the Police from danger and discourage false claims of Police brutality. Where this has been implemented on a small scale, as in Palo Alto, California, there has been a substantial reduction on both counts to the tune of something like 80% - 85% with similar success in other localities that have tried it. Therefore I have introduce the Police Militarization and Civil Rights Act. I am open to negotiating the exact amount and period of time that such funding is to be redirected and since people seem to take issue with the titles of my bills, I am open to changing that as well. Tongue

When I first heard of this, my first concern though was one of privacy and was rather dubious at best as there definitely needs to be safeguards to ensure such is protected. At first I was rather skeptical but I came to the conclusion that if a Policemen's eyes are on you already, adding a camera does little to further reduce privacy but does provide an incentive for both sides of the encounter to act appropriately and ultimately ensure the protection of the civilian's civil rights in the process more than anything else. If I am not mistaken, even the ACLU is on board with these type of programs for much the same reason, though it was some weeks ago, so I might have heard wrong. I am open to what my colleagues think on how best to improve clause four to further remove any remaining concerns in this regard.
83  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Legislation Introduction Thread on: September 12, 2014, 06:25:34 pm
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A BILL

To reduce somewhat the presence of military equipment used by police forces and provide for the filming of police interactions to discourage violations of procedure and the civil rights of civilians as well as to protect the police officers.

Title: This bill is to be entitled the: Police Militarization and Civil Rights Act

1. For a period of X years, Y% of funding distributed to the local police forces for the purposes of acquiring surplus military gear, equipment and arms shall be redirected to assist police forces in the acquisition of miniature cameras and establishment of procedures for their use during all encounters between the public and officers on the force.

2. The successful programs of Palo Alto California and other localities shall serve as a model for the crafting of the procedures in other police forces with the assistance of X agency in the Department of Justice

3. The purpose of these cameras shall be to ensure that all Police procedures and laws are being followed by the officers in the course of performing their duties by providing a video record of such encounters, therefore they must be required to be present and turned on during all such interactions from the public. Each officer shall be equipped with such a device as shall the police cars as well, in order for the program to qualify.

4. All programs must contain strict standards to preserve the privacy, civil rights and safety of citizens filmed during the course of encounters with the Police.
84  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Legislation Introduction Thread on: September 12, 2014, 06:23:19 pm
Abstain

Because for five year, this never ever had to be utilized. Tongue
85  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Capital Freedom Act (Debating) on: September 12, 2014, 06:21:26 pm
Nay
86  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Oil Pipeline Funding Expungement Act (Law'd) on: September 12, 2014, 06:16:04 pm
Historically though, the Presiding officer has respected a request provided it was made in a timely manner and including a substantive text to be offered. But yes, it is at his discretion.

Which is what I did. And as such dispute this bills passage.

I dispute that you understand the Senate rules. And I'm fairly confident in that, given your total inability to act in any manner that would suggest anything to the contrary.

Perhaps he is just disputing the choice made "under your discretion" on the matter.

I would love to assist him in any areas of deficiency regarding the rules if such exist, but unfortunately, I cannot just scream at my computer screen "GRANT ME ACCESS" and be able to get on the Atlas. I would have done it August 6th if I could. Tongue
87  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Job Guarantee Act of 2014 (Debating) on: September 12, 2014, 06:13:03 pm
...I've been here before
grant he's the same...


slight pull from Gods and Generals there. Tongue

The cost of this will be astronomical, and as much difficulty as I am having in my present real life quest for employment, I still cannot bring myself to ignore that the costs of this and the effects paying for such on the economy. It would be destructive and likely destroy as many jobs as it creates if not more.

Nice citations you have there. I would like to just remind everyone that a program like the one I am proposing has been implemented before in this country. Actually, a few programs like it. The Civilian Conservation Corps, the Public Works Administration, the Works Progress Administration, and, oh yeah, the mass hiring of the out of work by the United States armed forces during World War II. Full employment and price stability are both possible, and both are totally affordable, we just have to be willing to use the ability to tax and print money to finance it.

The threshold before adverse consequences for such is lower in non-World War II environments. No patriotic drive to buy war bonds to defeat Hitler.
88  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Public Sector Strike Curtailment Act (Voting on Amendment) on: September 12, 2014, 06:09:37 pm
Amendment is friendly. However (and I should really have thought of this sooner), I'd like to clarify that I intended for ABAC to work on a purely public-sector basis. Not that the option of extending it throughout the economy should not be considered, but I think that the public sector provides an adequate testing ground for such a proposal.

Private unions have a vested interest in cooperating because if the private business fails, they lose too.

Public unions have no limitations, the politicians have only short term interest and the consequences take decades to manifest themselves. Therefore, treating them differently makes some sense I would think.
89  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Public Sector Strike Curtailment Act (Voting on Amendment) on: September 12, 2014, 06:07:54 pm
I have to try to get out of the habit of leveraging my vote to obtain information. Especially, since that kind of helped to leave us without a Vice President. Tongue

But after 5 years of

"I'll be here, I'll always be here" - Horatio Caine

it takes getting use to, not being able to get on every day.
90  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Public Sector Strike Curtailment Act (Voting on Amendment) on: September 12, 2014, 06:06:16 pm
I object to the proposed amendment. No amount of amending will make this bill worth passing. It has to be killed or the public sector unions will be. There's no middle ground here.

There has to be a middle ground or the local gov'ts will be bankrupted and then the courts will dictate even more horrendous terms to the workers.
91  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Peace and Prosperity Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: September 12, 2014, 06:00:51 pm
Abstain

But I worry what "expansion of Democratic Gov't" entails a as a commitment and just what means are on the table for that.

I object. We shouldn't attempt to push a political system on another country any more than we should attempt to push a social or economic system.

I agree we cannot plant a system with bayonets, but is any form of encouragement or promotion shall we say acceptable?
92  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Peace and Prosperity Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: September 12, 2014, 05:56:24 pm
This amendment has not been on the floor the requisite 24 hours of minimum debate time to proceed to a vote.

My apologies. I'll halt the vote, then. I was under the assumption that we were good to go ahead for a vote since we already had an objection filed.

The theory is that it provides an opportunity to debate or negotiate the objection away, before getting tied down by procedure having to open a vote. Of course until a few months ago, these votes were five days long and if one could be avoid that was certainly the preference.
93  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: August 2014 Napa Valley Earthquake Relief for the Pacific Act (Debating) on: September 12, 2014, 05:50:29 pm
Like I said in the other thread, this one has not been debated anywhere near as long and therefore should be completed, particularly if Hagrid has returned now.
94  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Support for Carers Bill 2014 (Debating) on: September 12, 2014, 05:49:18 pm
Did we ever pass the previous Support for Carers Bill or was that failed last year?
95  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Public Discussion on the Supreme Court Cases (Avoid Cluttering Case Threads) on: September 12, 2014, 05:43:50 pm
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Furthermore, even accepting for the sake of argument the ambiguity present in this clause, allowing a Senator to vote twice is a violation of the fundamental principle of “one person, one vote” that has long been a bedrock of Atlasian jurisprudence, and, in addition, violates the right to equal protection of constituents of other Senators, who would see their representative power drastically diluted by allowing such an action.

This sounds like something I would say. Tongue It is why under the section on transitory agreements in the OSPR it is stipulated that the votes of the Senator's successors displace that of their predecessors. The seats are no indistinguishable, each represents a specific constituency, especially a regional Senator like TNF or myself.



96  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Robin Williams Memorial Suicide Copy-cat Prevention Act (Debating) on: September 12, 2014, 05:33:58 pm
Cranberry, do you think we should extend the repeal of past legislation to rest of the terms of the bill? It is rather nonspecific and I would prefer to avoid such blanket sweeps without including bill titles, though. On the other hand the concern about duplication or cross-purposes would be  potentially present.

What do you think?
97  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Robin Williams Memorial Suicide Copy-cat Prevention Act (Debating) on: September 12, 2014, 05:31:41 pm
Because when someone commits suicide, you should not memorialize that person in a way that focuses attention on the cause of death. Look at the CDC guidelines or any other instructions on how to cover suicide without encouraging imitators. It'd be awful to pass a bill focused on getting the media to cover this issue correctly while ignoring the basic tenets that we hope they will follow.

We are not a media organization, we are a legislative body and there it is a false equivalency in my view. We honor his memory by seeking to target the things that drive it and discourage/prevent such copy cats, not popularizing his manner of death just for its own sake, but turn the focused attention towards materially improving the situation. We already have such standards in place, this merely updates and ensures they are in line with the latest research.

I would also say that if such guidelines are in place to the extent you say, they are not being followed at all in RL. It is thus my assumption that the same is the case here and thus why this and the title made sense. Every story I saw emphasized his manner of departure. If such is the norm, then it would be a disservice to then avoid utilizing the opportunity to discourage future suicides out of a fear of further popularizing the event, that ship has sailed. It is already out there. Hell, our local news coverage even utilized the event to hold a panel discussion on mental health and depression. Therefore, hinging off the event to improve these standards, I find to be very appropriate in light of the reality of what and how this is being reported, at least from what I have seen.

I still think the concern is either misplaced or misdirected, however accurate it may be in general or in other circumstances.
98  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of IDS Emperor Maxwell (ask me stuff bros) on: September 10, 2014, 07:00:32 pm
Your Imperial Highness,


What is your time frame for legislation allowing competition to AHNC in the exchange created for the IDS as part of the Healthcare bill we passed back in June? The regions were tasked were deciding whether or not to allow a competitive market and to define what that competition looks like, within the requirements set by Federal law.



Did we never get that done? I'll go through and see if I can find Scott's old stuff and see if I agree. If not, I'll get to work on it myself.

I will speak to fellow legislators on the subject to see if there's a consensus on what we should do. I will make a decision about what to do on the issue when some people get back to me.

I know he was working on it, but no legislation ever went through the Legislature on the matter. His departure was rather sudden and I just hope this doesn't become an unintended casualty of what is already a terrible situation. Shua, Duke, Lumine, Superique and myself worked too hard on this after so many years of frustration to let it slip away now.

If you have any questions I will try to answer them as quickly as possible. Also shua can probably advise as well if he is available.
99  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 House Election Polls / Re: IL-10: Rep. Schneider leads in internal on: September 10, 2014, 06:56:21 pm
I was worried this one would slip out of reach. At least it is competitive.
100  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: NC-Sen: Hagan/DSCC internal has Hagan up 3. on: September 10, 2014, 06:53:47 pm
Hagan is dominating the airwaves here and his down to  earth paper boy to IBM commercial is not compensating for all the teachers bring thrown into ads blaming him for every funding cut that has come down the pike whilst preserving tax breaks for yachts and jets.

Also the debate was a disaster for Tillis in my view.
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