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76  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary Clinton says she’ll put Bill in charge of economic revitalization on: May 17, 2016, 03:46:01 am
TRUMP will link him to Nafta, which was a disaster.

Just like it hurt Hillary in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Roll Eyes

These former democratic voters went to TRUMP.

These voters have been voting Republican for more than a decade.

Only those for whom social issues and now coal suffice to move the needle. Such has no impact with secular blue collar workers in Cleveland, Youngstown, NE PA or the Lehigh Valley.
77  General Discussion / History / Re: WW I to feature in new AAA FPS on: May 17, 2016, 03:25:15 am
This looks interesting, I hope it comes out for computer and hopefully by then I should have a rig capable of running it.

There is a mod for Battlefield 1942 called Battlefield 1918. Of course it is over a decade old now. Generally in terms of FPS WW2 gets all the action. I think a good reason for this is that for most of the video game era there were still substantial numbers of WW2 vets, not so for WW1 vets who were mostly gone by the 1990's. Added to that, it was the last conflict in which there was vast support/sympathy for defeating the bad guys. Afganistan might count as an exception to that. Also Nazis are one of the most common enemy types in gaming.


Another thing is, the US was not involved in World War 1 until the last year and some change and only around that time had the war become "A war to save Democracy". Prior to that, it was a struggle of Empires, which people have a hard time relating to these days and also makes determining good versus evil more difficult as seen in this recent trend of sympathy for the Second Reich, thinking their victory would prevent World War II and Hitler. Of course I contend that such would lead to the Third Republic collapsing and either the Monarchy or Empire being restored, leading to a subsequent war.

Even for strategy based games like Hearts of Iron. World War II gets its own game while World War gets tact onto the end of Victoria, meaning it never happens since events change so much throughout the game that it isn't triggered unless you start in 1914 with the war underway already.

78  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama Deportations Continue with New Wave of Raids on: May 17, 2016, 02:36:07 am
In principle, I actually support open borders, even though it's not completely feasible right now. Ideally we'd have something like the EU in place with Canada, Mexico, etc.

I am glad I don't consume alcohol, because this post would make me want to. Tongue

In the age of terrorism is that is completely impossible and I have no faith in Mexico to properly secure their system so as to avoid creating a legal channel for ISIS to exploit to enter the US and blow innocent civilians up.

Even generally speaking, a nation has a responsibility to its citizens to regulate the flow of people into the country, vet them for security and other concerns and ensure that the overall numbers remain at a controllable and assimilatable level. Open borders run contrary to this responsibility.

Referencing the EU, doesn't help make your case, Kent. Tongue
79  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama Deportations Continue with New Wave of Raids on: May 17, 2016, 02:25:35 am
The irony is the Democrats are now openly acknowledging the primary reason why many of us oppose comprehensive immigration reform. They will ignore the laws, let another group in and in turn, claim said group cannot be deported and must be legalized through "reform" of a broken system. A system they broke in the first place, intentionally. This is called cyclical amnesty, and it is no way to run a country. There is no way to control who is coming in and weed out the bad apples. I agree whole heartedly with the reformers that the system is broken and needs to be fixed, but in order to fix it we need to understand who broke it in the first place. If self-serving Democrats, epitomized by Clinton, would do the right thing, I would be fine with legalizing most of those who are here right now because I could believe it is the amnesty to end all amnesties. But of course, they won't and such will just perpetuate their breaking of the system.

The Democratic Party is entirely in the tank for open borders and it would be a great service to the country to have them lose an election over this and bring them to their senses.

Obama I will credit, has at least, contrary to the right-wing propaganda, been far more reasonable on this issue than Clinton, and now, most every other Democrat as well. He endorsed penalizing employers and ran to her right in 2008 in the primary on enforcement.
80  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary Clinton says she’ll put Bill in charge of economic revitalization on: May 17, 2016, 01:51:53 am
Some questionable trade decisions aside, Bill's administration did an amazing job with the economy so I really do like this. My parents have a high opinion of Bill regardless of the scandal because the 90's were actually pretty good years.

Yep.  Jeb likes to talk about 4% growth and everyone makes fun of him because it's so pie in the sky (we're around 2-2.5% growth annually under Obama, excluding the -2% growth in 2009) but Clinton's numbers were pretty consistently above 4%.  I think his worst year was 2.7%, still on par with Obama's best.

Reagan was also pretty good, around 3-4% notwithstanding the -2% of the 1982 recession and the 7% of the 1984 bounce-back.

W had three years in the 1s, a few 2-3 years in the mid-2000s and the horror of 2008-2009.
HW's took us from the high 3s to 1s and negative numbers.
No wonder nobody trusted Jeb lol

Exactly - what a lot of the establishment GOP failed to recognize is that Americans really don't buy the traditional GOP economic orthodoxy - deregulation, across-the-board tax cuts, and free trade - after the Bush 2 years.  I tend to think that those policies were good in the 1980's but have outlived their shelf life.  Bush needed to change course at some point, and it's regrettable he didn't.  I'm not a fan of everything Trump does, but I do think that restricting immigration, renegotiating trade deals, and taking a softer line on taxes (and supporting financial regulation) is definitely the path the GOP needs to take going forward (though perhaps more pro-immigration).

The problem is the GOP.Donor base wants nothing to do with any of those three things you've mentioned

Fortunately the GOP donor base is more irrelevant than ever.

Yea, especially now that someone won the nomination mostly by self-funding that is even more the case. But their influence couldn't buy the continuation of cyclical amnesty, so I doubt their ability to force their position on trade and regulation either.
81  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How would the GOP deal with a TRUMP loss? on: May 17, 2016, 01:41:06 am
The rightist party is the natural home for nationalist sentiments within a country. I expect the Republicans will find it increasingly difficult to deny reality and pretend it is still 2004, when in fact the world is much different. People are sick of war and the domestic situation is dreadful. The energy is going to be that of a more inward focus.

Regardless of what Trump's margin is, there will be Republicans eyeing his message and path and will offer a similar pitch to try and get the Trump vote in the primaries, whilst avoiding Trump's personality and controversial statements.

82  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: My Regional Constitution Recommendation + Campaign Schedule 4 Cmtes & House on: May 17, 2016, 01:04:22 am
I agree we need to move quickly. However, Leinad and Ted have already been working in advance to have blueprints ready for the South and West. I don't know where they are at presently, but I know Leinad is probably furthest along.


I'd prefer each region have its own consitution and that the committee take necessary actions to ensure that delay is avoided and interim matters requiring regional action are addressed to the extent they are allowed.

83  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Nay to Article 2 of the 4th Constitution on: May 17, 2016, 12:58:43 am
Back in 2013, when Fix the Regions was being debated. Going in, the biggest concern was the process would fall apart over how to divide what regions. There is no perfect answer that will satisfy everyone, still preserve some sense of numerical equality between the regions and go for a three region map.

That was the motivation behind CARCA. Last time, CARCA's map was another nail in the coffin because it eliminated one of only two regions the right could rely on. This time, with Labor controlling the region, the balance is largely preserved politically. So at the very least, that negative aspect no longer applied.

Of course, that doesn't change the fact that the Mideast is being divided up. I wish there was someway to please everyone, but as I see it, the map we have is basically the least bad option.


Also, Truman, I am not a diehard regionalist. I am a small f federalist, which made me a regionalist by default since the extremism was almost always on the side of centralists who often dominated most reform discussions. Therefore it isn't noticed as much. As an example, I have long opposed an all regional Senate in the absence of a House to represent the people. I also opposed secession everytime it has come up.
84  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary Clinton says she’ll put Bill in charge of economic revitalization on: May 16, 2016, 02:35:55 am
This is going to play right into Trump's hands on trade.
85  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Senator Ben Sasse (R-NE) gets told by own state party to stop whining. on: May 16, 2016, 02:22:53 am
Clinton is roughly a 70% favorite to win the election.


Uh, Sasse won his 2014 primary on the basis of being an outsider. He never was a guy who is endeared to the establishment position on any given issue. (the establishment position here is "Well, TRUMP is the nominee, I guess we have to support him.")



Sasse is not an outsider. He is an insider who co-opted the tea party label to get elected. I personally wouldn't mind if he gets defeated in 2020.
86  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Political Tracker - Fourth Constitution Special (Analysis on the Future) on: May 16, 2016, 02:07:36 am
Just one quick note, The NE may not be able to vote for until next week if I remember reading Cinyc correctly, which if these results hold mean the NE won't get to vote on the matter at all. Perhaps they could in that interim appeared, but it wouldn't have any force and Cinyc would no longer be an elections administrator by that point.

I recall reading something about that, but I can't remember the post or the thread. What exactly happened with the Northeast?

I think they might limit their ratifications to a set date every few months to avoid constant ratification booths.
87  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: It is time to get this done. on: May 16, 2016, 01:06:18 am
The only revisionism here is your attempt to rehabilitate the crime of 2013.


The heavy lifting to fix the Pacific that occured in 2013 and 2014 could have been proceeded without it. The very power obtained to engage in this activity could have been used to both destroy Nappy's influence and to reform the region. Of course that was impossible, because half of them are only active for shock trolling events and not serious governing.

As for the reform nationwide, regardless of the benefits to the argument for the necessity, and what you saw from being on the pro-side, I know what happened on the right because I happen to be fortunate enough have traversed in all the right circles, lacking the power to change the trajectory, but more than enough to see and know quite a lot. The same event that kicked it all in motion gurranteed Duke's lack of success in 2013 and 2014 on the reform question.

People have always reacted negatively to these types of events and the public support you build up was paper thin as it was not reflected once GOTV had worked its magic, with most of the success occuring on the nay side,  using the argument that a repeat was to be feared.

Reform like this only works when everyone is on board, political competitiveness is preserved and and both sides get to walk away with something. There was nothing like that about the summer of 2013 and that is why that failed and this didn't.

Your involvement is legendary and commendable, Adam,  no one is going to take this away from you. That doesn't vindicate such trollish stunts as Rimjob and thE July Anarchy. They were a distraction that caused significant delay from real reform, by people who mostly only care about distractions not reform.

And now most of those people are on the outside looking in mocking and deriding the very new generation of leaders who made this possible. No one will convince me that actions born of such thinking are a positive force in this game.
88  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: GA Abt SBRI AJC: Trump 47 Clinton 44, Sanders 47 Trump 42 on: May 16, 2016, 12:04:37 am
I think Trump's margin will be narrow in GA even if he wins. I expect 3%-4% simply because of demographics unless he can push up his black vote percentage in the state and there are ways he can do that, ways that another Republican wouldn't. I expect him to try these things, but I don't expect him to do so in GA in terms of paid media. Now spillover and of course free media/internet might spill over into it from other targetted areas but regardless.

I agree Trump is a bad fit for the South Atlantic and it is trending Democratic, as is MS. However, I think Trump is going to win GA and NC as well as MS, TX and AZ. One thing is Clinton is a terrible candidate as well.

In NC, immigration and trade play and play well. The Hispanic vote is not large enough to make an impact just yet and Clintonistas have always been boned in NC because of NAFTA. Richard Burr is a Senator today partially because he ran an ad linking Bowles to Clinton and Clinton to NAFTA. Both McCrory and Perdue pandered substantially on the immigration issue, to the right in 2008. First McCrory and then Perdue coopted him in the closing days. Also there was the Tobacco issue and the way Clinton handled it, which may not be at play anymore but is credited with moving the state towards the Republicans in the late Clinton and early Bush years. So there is the history, and three key issues that make Clinton a bad fit for the state.

One big concern is that the State Legislature is nuking the GOP with young voters on this transgender issue and Trump is on the right side of that issue for them so hopefully he is not impacted by their actions. Until now I thought McCrory would win, I am skeptical now. Of course I thought Tillis was DOA and the wave swept him in, so I could be wrong.

89  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Senate Office of NC Yankee (Statement on Constitution) on: May 15, 2016, 11:26:14 pm
Official Statement on Convention Passage of the Fouth Constitution -


Seven years ago, I ran for Senate running on a platform that advocated for reform and promised to protect Regional Rights. Over the course of the ensuing years balancing those two were very difficult and many times, with the reforms coming from noted centralists, almost all crossed the line in the latter regard and therefore necessitated opposition such as the all At-Large Senate and attempts at watering down the ratification process as a pipeline for radicalist proposal.

In spite of that I was always able to cooperate with people, including many of those I disagree with. The first push for consolidation was not in 2013, but in 2012 and it was being champion by Antonio. I was not in board with it at the time, but I got it before the Senate and assisted as best I could with crafting the proposal. It went nowhere, because the powers that be at the time were not interested in taking it up.

In 2013, we had Atlasia realligned by rimjob and I was faced with trying to balance assisting the reform effort and representing the overwhelmingly regionalist population of the South at that time. I offered constructive input, warned against what threatened it the most and ways to assuage concerns (I was ignored), and finally had to hurriedly rush it back to the floor after inactive radicals killed it by not voting. It passed overwhelmingly the second time, only to fail in three regions and garnering a 60% Nay vote natiownide (who says Regional results never match the ratification PV nationwide. Tongue) .

Since July, I found myself trying to contend with a different balancing act. That of supporting reform, but trying to protect the convention from false narratives spread by radicals that it was my minions and cronies (Which makes no sense, but then again nothing those crazy people did made sense) blocking "real change" (read dissolution). Once they departed and finding myself as a delegate, I was able to embrace what was becoming a solid reform effort, even if the pace was maddening at times.

This constitution, successfully reforms the regions and reduces the number of offices, while preserving and even strengthening the balance of powers and also preserving political competition in its wake. All important attributes, which ensure that this constitution would meet with success, precisely because it was not guided by the extremist demands of radical hostage takers, but instead was formulated on the basis of sound reason and reform minded Atlasians from all over the political landscape. I therefore urge the regions to speedily ratify this constitution that we may move forward to a new chapter in Atlasian history. Our job is filling out the pages of that new chapter with the stories and triumps of Atlasian participants.

I call on Atlasians both new and old to join in at this present moment. People like Scott, who has returned after a long absence, and a string of newer people joining over the last weeks and months. I call on them to give Atlasia a chance to be something special, something entertaining, something fun.
90  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: It is time to get this done. on: May 15, 2016, 11:05:26 pm
I agree on everything except the bit about Rimjob, Adam. There was no path to this kind of reform from that event. It was a criminal conspiracy, meant to change people's opinions through shock and horror and the Supreme Court merely did its job in 2013 (to protect the right of the Pacific's citizens to a democratic system).

If you were going to design a reform push to fail, you couldn't do better than that clusterf@#K. In fact, when it came time for Duke to attempt a real reform six months later, he ran head long into a regionalist movement rejuvenated as a result of Rimjob, with the entire right being whipped in opposition behind closed doors mainly out of fear that it would be manipulated by those same people in the Pacific. And with friends like those radicals, who needs enemies. Two of them (and 1 Nappy) failed to show up to even vote on it in the Senate, causing it to fail even though only two Senators voted nay, necessitating a re-introduction and a revote, which I was able to expedite as PPT thankfully. They were all in for causing trouble and not quite as concerned about reform. Some of them even voted nay on the ratification vote just to spite pro-reformers like Lumine who happened to PM the wrong person about voting. You were deregistered at the time of your own choice and because of the split of Atlasia into cliques, all of the GOTV was from people on the wrong side of that divide to get the allegedly pro-reform rimjobbers out.

This is not a victory for radicalist cabals. A July Surrender last summer would have been rimjob's vindication. This is a victory for the sober minded reforms of the like championed by people like Marokai and Duke, which were for years blocked by some of the same people involved in Rimjob because they were too pro-region in some cases, or in others, because they wanted to stir crap up. And to come full circle, The Marokai administration, which was entirely build on the promise of reforms, opposed that crime in the Pacific.
91  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: May 15, 2016, 10:35:09 pm
ascott
Labor Party
New Hampshire

Welcome back to the Game! Smiley


Make sure Adam behaves himself. Tongue
92  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: May 15, 2016, 10:32:53 pm
I feel so much better now that Adam has messed that up in this thread too. Tongue
93  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Political Tracker - Fourth Constitution Special (Analysis on the Future) on: May 15, 2016, 10:30:12 pm
Just one quick note, The NE may not be able to vote for until next week if I remember reading Cinyc correctly, which if these results hold mean the NE won't get to vote on the matter at all. Perhaps they could in that interim appeared, but it wouldn't have any force and Cinyc would no longer be an elections administrator by that point.
94  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Political Tracker - Fourth Constitution Special (Analysis on the Future) on: May 15, 2016, 10:26:52 pm

North (normal)
South (normal)
West (normal)
Arizona (BADLANDS)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T_6Ua6fd5s
95  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Southern Constitutional Amendment Ratification Voting Booth - May 2016 on: May 15, 2016, 10:16:06 pm
Ratification of the Constitution
[ X ] AYE
[   ] NAY
96  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: ATTENTION, Governors and Election Officers on: May 15, 2016, 10:00:39 pm
I should write the book: Arizona: Lost State, Lost Hope! Tongue

It would fit with my other titles:

"Behind the Wheel: The RPP's Insane Chairman" May 2010

"Senators in the Lead: The RPP's Long-Time Senators Successfully Rebrand the Party" Dec 2010

"Duke-Cincy: Atlasia's Fabulous Opportunity for Change" Sept 2011

"Focus on the Senate: Reforming the Cabinet Through Legislative Oversight" Jan 2013

"Beyond Rimjob: Atlasia's New Political Paradigm and Why Only Adam Was Prepared" Sept 2013

"The Era of Good Feelings: The Right's Unappreciated Victories"  June 2014

"The Advance of Radicalism: The Coming Appocalyptic Struggle for Atlasia's Soul" May 2015

"The Glorious Restoration: How Two Has Beens and An Ex-Con Rebuilt the Federalist Party" August 2015   
97  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: TRUMP outright says he won't release tax returns before the election on: May 11, 2016, 11:18:57 pm
Once again, Romney seeks to claim moral high ground from a position of hypocrisy.


I am convinced he is using Trump as his means to gloss over and white wash all of the things he did in 2008 and 2012 that would lead him to being ostracized from the club, so that he can travel in such circles and be welcomed in high society in his retirement from public life.

Clearly, he was conning us in 2008 and 2012, and is the fraud everyone said he was. As much as I would like to say I should have known better, him merely running under such false pretences were a necessary step in my opinion for a variety of reasons.
98  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Cruz open to reentering race on: May 11, 2016, 11:09:55 pm
Nebraska said no thank you.

99  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump says he wants to raise the minimum wage on: May 11, 2016, 11:05:01 pm
Liberal is a liberal, news at 11.

Who is the last Republican President to not raise the minimum wage? 


Republicans always bitch about the minimum wage, eat a hit in the general election and then just go ahead and sign it anyway. What the hell is the point, just support it from the beginning and get a few more votes in PA and MI.
100  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: I Have Just Found The WORST Prediction/Analysis Ever on: May 10, 2016, 10:47:32 pm
You talk to average guys on the street about states and they have no clue the states they are listing are already Republican and thus gain Trump nothing.
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