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76  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: August 2014 Napa Valley Earthquake Relief for the Pacific Act (Debating) on: September 12, 2014, 05:50:29 pm
Like I said in the other thread, this one has not been debated anywhere near as long and therefore should be completed, particularly if Hagrid has returned now.
77  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Support for Carers Bill 2014 (Debating) on: September 12, 2014, 05:49:18 pm
Did we ever pass the previous Support for Carers Bill or was that failed last year?
78  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Public Discussion on the Supreme Court Cases (Avoid Cluttering Case Threads) on: September 12, 2014, 05:43:50 pm
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Furthermore, even accepting for the sake of argument the ambiguity present in this clause, allowing a Senator to vote twice is a violation of the fundamental principle of “one person, one vote” that has long been a bedrock of Atlasian jurisprudence, and, in addition, violates the right to equal protection of constituents of other Senators, who would see their representative power drastically diluted by allowing such an action.

This sounds like something I would say. Tongue It is why under the section on transitory agreements in the OSPR it is stipulated that the votes of the Senator's successors displace that of their predecessors. The seats are no indistinguishable, each represents a specific constituency, especially a regional Senator like TNF or myself.



79  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Robin Williams Memorial Suicide Copy-cat Prevention Act (Debating) on: September 12, 2014, 05:33:58 pm
Cranberry, do you think we should extend the repeal of past legislation to rest of the terms of the bill? It is rather nonspecific and I would prefer to avoid such blanket sweeps without including bill titles, though. On the other hand the concern about duplication or cross-purposes would be  potentially present.

What do you think?
80  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Robin Williams Memorial Suicide Copy-cat Prevention Act (Debating) on: September 12, 2014, 05:31:41 pm
Because when someone commits suicide, you should not memorialize that person in a way that focuses attention on the cause of death. Look at the CDC guidelines or any other instructions on how to cover suicide without encouraging imitators. It'd be awful to pass a bill focused on getting the media to cover this issue correctly while ignoring the basic tenets that we hope they will follow.

We are not a media organization, we are a legislative body and there it is a false equivalency in my view. We honor his memory by seeking to target the things that drive it and discourage/prevent such copy cats, not popularizing his manner of death just for its own sake, but turn the focused attention towards materially improving the situation. We already have such standards in place, this merely updates and ensures they are in line with the latest research.

I would also say that if such guidelines are in place to the extent you say, they are not being followed at all in RL. It is thus my assumption that the same is the case here and thus why this and the title made sense. Every story I saw emphasized his manner of departure. If such is the norm, then it would be a disservice to then avoid utilizing the opportunity to discourage future suicides out of a fear of further popularizing the event, that ship has sailed. It is already out there. Hell, our local news coverage even utilized the event to hold a panel discussion on mental health and depression. Therefore, hinging off the event to improve these standards, I find to be very appropriate in light of the reality of what and how this is being reported, at least from what I have seen.

I still think the concern is either misplaced or misdirected, however accurate it may be in general or in other circumstances.
81  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of IDS Emperor Maxwell (ask me stuff bros) on: September 10, 2014, 07:00:32 pm
Your Imperial Highness,


What is your time frame for legislation allowing competition to AHNC in the exchange created for the IDS as part of the Healthcare bill we passed back in June? The regions were tasked were deciding whether or not to allow a competitive market and to define what that competition looks like, within the requirements set by Federal law.



Did we never get that done? I'll go through and see if I can find Scott's old stuff and see if I agree. If not, I'll get to work on it myself.

I will speak to fellow legislators on the subject to see if there's a consensus on what we should do. I will make a decision about what to do on the issue when some people get back to me.

I know he was working on it, but no legislation ever went through the Legislature on the matter. His departure was rather sudden and I just hope this doesn't become an unintended casualty of what is already a terrible situation. Shua, Duke, Lumine, Superique and myself worked too hard on this after so many years of frustration to let it slip away now.

If you have any questions I will try to answer them as quickly as possible. Also shua can probably advise as well if he is available.
82  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 House Election Polls / Re: IL-10: Rep. Schneider leads in internal on: September 10, 2014, 06:56:21 pm
I was worried this one would slip out of reach. At least it is competitive.
83  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: NC-Sen: Hagan/DSCC internal has Hagan up 3. on: September 10, 2014, 06:53:47 pm
Hagan is dominating the airwaves here and his down to  earth paper boy to IBM commercial is not compensating for all the teachers bring thrown into ads blaming him for every funding cut that has come down the pike whilst preserving tax breaks for yachts and jets.

Also the debate was a disaster for Tillis in my view.
84  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Post Dissolution Elections: June 2012 on: September 10, 2014, 06:49:11 pm
Clarence/Yelnoc

This was my first presidential election. It's thanks to Clarence that I'm even here in the first place. Hard to believe it was over two years ago... what a waste.

Tongue

I would gladly give anything to go back to June 2012. Though January 2012 would be somewhat better, I would gladly take June if possible. Tongue
85  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: Ratification Process Alteration Resolution (Debating) on: September 10, 2014, 06:47:12 pm
I share Yank's concerns. I don't think I can, in good conscience, allow this resolution to go through. Isn't this an amendment to our constitution itself rather than a resolution?

I must point out though, that I do think we should preserve our freedom to so choose such, I just think it would be a mistake to take that step for our region and thus the region should probably opt to not do so.
86  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Public Sector Strike Curtailment Act (Voting on Amendment) on: September 10, 2014, 06:40:23 pm
Abstain pending response to Deus's concerns


Though I do thing it is heading in the right direction. I would ask Windjammer and the others who raised the concern, whether the think there is any risk to lacking any competing force against public sector unions and their demands. I think they should exist, but I think in the absence of an equilibrium of some sorts, the risks I stated at the beginning of the thread are present and it should be remembered that while these people should be well compensated and protected, they also serve the public, not private capital. This has the dual effect not only of making the work more important, but also the interests they work for and at the same time removes the competing interest by and large because of the nature of the employer producing one sided negotiations usually. I think the public is served by a fair equilibrium between the public sector workers and the representatives of the public good.
87  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Wages for Housework Act on: September 10, 2014, 06:32:02 pm
Aye

Though I hope this doesn't mean we have to table the Napa Earthquake bill for the same reason. I would argue that it has direction and is merely held up by numbers alone, whereas, this would need the numbers to find direction.
88  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Peace and Prosperity Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: September 10, 2014, 06:29:51 pm
This amendment has not been on the floor the requisite 24 hours of minimum debate time to proceed to a vote.
89  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: August 2014 Napa Valley Earthquake Relief for the Pacific Act (Debating) on: September 10, 2014, 06:27:37 pm
What's taking so long with the numbers?
90  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The Robin Williams Memorial Suicide Copy-cat Prevention Act (Debating) on: September 10, 2014, 06:25:33 pm
Quote from: amendment offered
A BILL
Recognizing the effects of media coverage of suicides and Mental Health, the Senate passes the following to ensure proper and up to date ethical and health guidelines are made available to media outlets.

Title: This bill is to be entitled DYCOY Mental Health Reform Act Part II

1. The Agency for Substance Abuse & Mental Health Services within the Department of Internal Affairs shall be responsible for the formulation of appropriate guidelines in conjunction with the agency for Health Resources & Services Administration, within the same said Department.

2. These guidelines are to provide appropriate boundaries for coverage of topics related to issues of mental health and suicides.

3. The focus of these guidelines shall be to maximize the amount of public knowledge and information whilst minimizing to the greatest extent possible adverse risks in the realm of stigmatization of those suffering from a mental illness.

4. As it relates to the coverage of suicides, the primary focus will be to be minimize the risk of the phenomenon known as "suicide copy-cats" whereby an individual suffering from similar conditions elects to commit suicide in the wake of news media coverage surrounding a person with those same conditions that committed suicide.

5. All of these guidelines be regarded as nonbinding legally, but shall it shall be the aim of the above agencies to establish them as generally accepted and followed throughout the news-media industry.

6. These agencies shall annually review and revise these standards based on the latest available research from peer reviewed and credible studies conducted within the fields of psychiatry and psychology. 

7. The above mentioned agencies shall, for the duration of a year, operate advertisement programs with the purpose of preventing suicides, especially copy-cat suicides and adverting the program outlined in clause 8. The advertisements shall be broadcasted in television and radio networks, printed in newspapers and posted as placards. The funds of $20 Millions shall be apportioned for this means.

8. The above mentioned agencies shall, in cooperation with the Red Cross Atlasia and other NGOs dealing with mental health, outline a free call service for people in need of counsel. The call service shall be free to call from everywhere in Atlasia. Medical personnel is to be supplied by the Red Cross, and paid in cooperation with the Republic of Atlasia.

9. All pre-existing legislation establishing programs similar to those of clauses seven and eight shall be hereby repealed.
91  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Job Guarantee Act of 2014 (Debating) on: September 10, 2014, 06:23:14 pm
...I've been here before
grant he's the same...


slight pull from Gods and Generals there. Tongue

The cost of this will be astronomical, and as much difficulty as I am having in my present real life quest for employment, I still cannot bring myself to ignore that the costs of this and the effects paying for such on the economy. It would be destructive and likely destroy as many jobs as it creates if not more.
92  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The GM Assistance/Keeping Things Moving Act (Debating) on: September 10, 2014, 06:19:44 pm
I think we need a massive wholistic strategy that has the bulk of the people on board, as to who to change the position and to ensure it is respected going forward.


I realize it is somewhat extreme, but my previous recommendation of making membership in Atlasia contingent on such is one possibility to ensure this.
93  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Oil Pipeline Funding Expungement Act (Law'd) on: September 10, 2014, 06:14:34 pm
Historically though, the Presiding officer has respected a request provided it was made in a timely manner and including a substantive text to be offered. But yes, it is at his discretion.
94  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: 63rd Election of the President Pro Tempore on: September 10, 2014, 06:12:20 pm


[  4 ] Senator TNF of the Midwest

[  1 ] At-Large Senator LuminevonReuental

[  2 ] Write-in: _______Deus Naturae_________________________________

[  3 ] Write-in: _______Polnut_________________________________

[  5 ] Write-in: _______myself_________________________________
95  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of IDS Emperor Maxwell (ask me stuff bros) on: September 08, 2014, 06:58:55 pm
Your Imperial Highness,


What is your time frame for legislation allowing competition to AHNC in the exchange created for the IDS as part of the Healthcare bill we passed back in June? The regions were tasked were deciding whether or not to allow a competitive market and to define what that competition looks like, within the requirements set by Federal law.

96  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 1: IDS Sports Venue Reform (Debating) on: September 08, 2014, 06:51:14 pm
As long as citizens are still allowed to vote for such at the city level, then I think this is a wise move.
97  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: IDS Fine Act (Passed) on: September 08, 2014, 06:49:51 pm
Overall, I think this is a step in the right direction.
98  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Wages for Housework Act on: September 08, 2014, 06:45:44 pm
Yes, tax rates just don't work like that and don't generate revenue if raised beyond a certain point.
99  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Regulatory Overhaul and Review Act (Debating) on: September 08, 2014, 06:44:53 pm
Nix is right in that most of this comes from delegated authority through legislation passed by the legislative branch. Its called fill in the blank legislation. Banks love it especially because they can go door to door with briefcases of money buying off the process and out of front view of the public.
100  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The GM Assistance/Keeping Things Moving Act (Debating) on: September 08, 2014, 06:42:25 pm
That's because so few people pay attention to it. Something we have not been able to fix after five years of effort in that regard.
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