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76  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Pacific election notice (April 2015) on: April 12, 2015, 10:56:23 pm
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=194223.0

Atlasian Time Keeping Act for future referenced. Sponsored by TNF for Fritz I believe and passed unanimously.

So you might want to remove the DST offset in your profile Simfan. Tongue

April 12, 2015, 10:55:26 pm
77  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Atlasian Laborinth - CORRUPTION IN THE PACIFIC on: April 12, 2015, 10:48:00 pm
Spamage's votes denied though his vote was cast 10 minutes before the deadline.  This does alter the election results.

No, no it was not. Voting booth opened at 08:04:47 pm, closed 72 hours later. Spamage casts his vote at 08:49:11 pm. He's past the deadline. Nothing ambiguous about it. I obviously have no desire (I like higher turnout) to disallow his vote but it's completely clear cut. JCL's math does not add up.

     I think the confusion is that you defined the period of the election in Standard Time when we are now in Daylight Savings. I thought it was ending at 5 PM my time, not 4 PM.

Atlasia doesn't use Daylight Savings Time. We even passed a resolution on the matter in the Senate as I recall.
78  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Pacific election notice (April 2015) on: April 12, 2015, 10:46:45 pm
Technically Nix's vote may be invalid and Spamage's valid.
79  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Pacific election notice (April 2015) on: April 12, 2015, 10:45:46 pm
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=149059.msg3506275#msg3506275

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=149059.msg3506312#msg3506312


lol

You made damn sure I was counted then. Tongue
80  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Pacific election notice (April 2015) on: April 12, 2015, 10:37:55 pm
EST - Eastern Standard Time
81  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Pacific election notice (April 2015) on: April 12, 2015, 10:36:59 pm
You didn't say daylight savings time when you opened the booth though, you said Standard time.

Atlasia also doesn't recognize the time change because it can  up a vote. You should now this because it materially impacted a race for the Senate back in 2012 that you were were a part of and the disputed vote was mine. Tongue

This booth shall open at 17:00:00 PST (20:00:00 EST) on April 9 and remain open for three days, until April 12 at 16:59:59 PST (19:59:59 EST).  Begins 8:00 PM EST, April 9th ends 7:59 PM EST April 12th


07:49:11 pm - Spamage votes
 
07:50:09 pm - You Close the booth.

82  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Atlasian Laborinth - CORRUPTION IN THE PACIFIC on: April 12, 2015, 10:31:19 pm
Yeah there is something weird there. I don'th think the results change since Superique didn't accept write-ins and counting the vote doesn't change that. That said, the timing is something that needs to be looked at.

Counting the vote does change the results if my calculations are correct.

Jojoju already loses to Superique in the count by seven votes, making it eight doesn't change the fact that those votes all exhaust since he didn't accept write-ins.
83  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Atlasian Laborinth - CORRUPTION IN THE PACIFIC on: April 12, 2015, 10:20:39 pm
Yeah there is something weird there. I don'th think the results change since Superique didn't accept write-ins and counting the vote doesn't change that. That said, the timing is something that needs to be looked at.
84  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Bazillionth Federalist Party HQ Thread - Nyman DC. on: April 12, 2015, 09:05:22 pm
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For Immediate Release to the Press -

The Federalist Party wishes to congratulate new member jojoju1998 on his election to the Pacific Council and wishes him success and activity in his first term as an elected official in Atlasia. The Party also wants to encourage all members to turn out and vote for Federalist and conservative candidates in the At-Large Senate elections, Northease Assembly and South Gubernatorial elections next weekend.

For those who said we are dead, IC4, BIT...!!!!
85  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: jojoju1998 for Pacific Council ! on: April 12, 2015, 08:51:49 pm
What is going on here?

As if by gravity, the dead hath come back alive led by Sinner Chrono and the devil's usual accomplice, a libertarian. Have some weed, on us.
86  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: jojoju1998 for Pacific Council ! on: April 12, 2015, 08:18:02 pm
    #IC4

Remember that suitcase I left behind last week.

click

IRC:
87  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Citizens have the right to be heard on the Senate floor (Sign the Pledge)! on: April 12, 2015, 08:02:40 pm
No man, no no no no

Russian style 1670's. Throw them over the Kremlin walls and let the troops below do it by hand.
88  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Citizens have the right to be heard on the Senate floor (Sign the Pledge)! on: April 12, 2015, 07:42:47 pm
And Yankee knows that I'm teasing him and his new-found joie de vivre, and you know that.

How is anyone supposed to know what a crazy person knows, more or less a third party knowing that said person knowns anything? Tongue

You make a good point and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter Wink

The writings of the mad often make for difficult reading.
89  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Citizens have the right to be heard on the Senate floor (Sign the Pledge)! on: April 12, 2015, 07:35:32 pm
This attempted wedge strategy is extraordinarily transparent.

I don't see what is being split apart except maybe the angry masses and the officials in Nyman who face having their heads affixed to pikes. Of course you have always been a "friend" of the angry masses, so you have nothing to worry about. Tongue
90  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Citizens have the right to be heard on the Senate floor (Sign the Pledge)! on: April 12, 2015, 07:28:44 pm
And Yankee knows that I'm teasing him and his new-found joie de vivre, and you know that.

How is anyone supposed to know what a crazy person knows, more or less a third party knowing that said person knowns anything? Tongue
91  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Atlasian Laborinth - CORRUPTION IN THE PACIFIC on: April 12, 2015, 07:11:38 pm
I was wondering why Paleobrazilian was on the ballot and it's odd that Simfan would vote for him when he never campaigned and kind of got ejected for inactivity from the Council back in January.

To deepen the plot, when Paleo came back to Atlas ~March 21st he posted longwinded Simfan-ish posts to the Brazil thread which Simfan repeatedly complimented as great.

Not again! What is with the Pacific?

This is all your fault bgwah, you have cursed the place.
92  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Poirot for At-Large Senate on: April 12, 2015, 05:33:11 pm
I'll send in a gang of Southron tuffs to bust him out of Alcatraz.
93  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Policing the Police Act - Political Tracker Polls on: April 12, 2015, 04:50:14 pm
If my party in particular knee-jerked and always made decisions based on which choice was more popular with a particularly whiny, insistent and overly-represented segment of the game's population, then we would be the JCP or the Liberals. For the love of God, if that ever happens, please bring about the Second Dissolution.

Sure, Griffin, sure. Go right ahead and I am sure everything will be fine. Don't worry about it. Pay no mind to the devil smileys. Tongue
94  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Grumpy Private Citizen Maxwell on: April 12, 2015, 04:34:16 pm
Nice office President Maxwell. Wink

There does need to be some things done to ensure proper behavior on the part of the Police. The Police Brutality and Civil Rights Act last year was a start, but there needs to be other things done as well to build on that of course.
95  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Citizens have the right to be heard on the Senate floor (Sign the Pledge)! on: April 12, 2015, 04:30:31 pm
You said it Senator Griff.

X C3rosby, S1tills, N2ash and Y4oung
96  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Senate Speaker Windjammer (Update) on: April 12, 2015, 04:19:28 pm
No, I am actually shocked about some things that have been happening lately.

A few Senators and the President are more or less openly discouraging citizens from posting in Senate threads even when their contributions are useful. Now we have a Senate Speaker who attacks a private citizen for conducting polls on controversial bills. Both things would have been unheard of in Atlasia just a few months ago

Things are getting worse really quickly, and if there are officeholders who want to stifle participation in this game completely this is exactly what they need to do.

Of course it would have been unheard a few months ago, because the office of Senate speaker has never existed before. And come on, the game before was much worse than now. I mean, don't you remember, for example Wolfentoad who was leading smear PM wars against people?

But more seriously, I have never been fan of polls in the atlas fantasy election board. I have always believed this is a way to make a big issue about something that clearly shouldn't. This is the same problem we have with referendums you know irl. For example, making a poll about a senate race and strangely too many people voted to be realistic (ie: the Southeast senate race recently. Yankee was never going to lose 10-0). Or an another example, the opinion of "xxxxx", so many ways to hijack itin order make the senator look bad.

  And this is the same thing I'm reproaching with polls about a bill. This is a way to influence the process or to make people look bad and I don't like at all (and this is the case with 2 polls). If people have something to say, I would prefer them to debate directly in the senate threads.

But people are obviously free to do whatever they want, I just give my opinion, something I have the constitutional right to do so Smiley. I'm not trying to shutdown his newspaper (like I have never tried to do so by the way) or whatever.

But it wasn't Lumine that brought this issue up. He didn't create the controversy with the polls, he merely created them in reaction to the objections raised by several in publics threads including Simfan and Oakvale as well as many others including PiT and myself.

Now one example where a poll did set off a controversy was me polling the supreme court approvals in May 2013 for Survey Atlasia once they let NC Yankee v. Atlasia sit a mont with no ruling. THat led to impeachement trails, the expectations amendment and finally several attempts at judicialy term limits. Needless to say that raced far beyond my expectations and I ended up an opponent of the "court reform" movement for the most part post June, though I did work with Tyrion his proposal in the fall as a term limit alternative.

These are part of Atlasia though and it would probably be a boring place without them. Imagine how much fun it would have been if I had won, without getting 30% in a single poll the final month. Grin
97  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Senate Speaker Windjammer (Update) on: April 12, 2015, 04:12:01 pm
Wait,

What is going on? Are people discouraging citizens from posting in senate thrads?

Just to be clear: I wasn't aware of that. My opinion on this subject has always been clear: every citizen has the right to post in the senate threads and I encourage it. As I just said, I prefer that than postings polls or whatever. Just for the record.

I don't think Zuwo is lumping you in with the other. Just that he finds it concerning that one side you have X and the other side you have Y and both are undesirable.

You have been welcoming of contributions in the Senate threads and I appreciate the invitation you sent me in this regard. Smiley




98  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: I'm kind of disgusted with you people right now on: April 12, 2015, 04:35:13 am
As for the "invasion force" I think this applies.

99  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Policing the Police Act - Political Tracker Polls on: April 12, 2015, 03:58:43 am
    I am thinking about doing something with the old health care funding bill, but I must admit that the Senate doesn't seem to notice or care whether we actually ever act on it.

Until March 6th, at least one did. Tongue Come May Day, at least one shall again. Tongue

I think you need a bex and a good lie down Yankee. (google it).

I would rather not lose a kidney, Aussie boy. Tongue
100  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of PFAdmin on: April 12, 2015, 02:25:51 am
I'm amused that an admin from another political forum interacts with the Atlas community more than Dave Leip does

I know of at least two others, but only one still posts here.
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