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76  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Reforming Atlasian Public Health Act of 2014 (Debating) on: April 22, 2014, 01:33:58 am
First we gonna do something that shua should remember from way back in 2011 on the CSS thread.

We gonna get us new thread managed by Cincy.
77  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Reforming Atlasian Public Health Act of 2014 (Debating) on: April 22, 2014, 01:32:11 am
Quote from: Current Text I Think
Reforming Atlasian Public Health Act of 2014

1. Section 2, Clause 1 of The New Atlasian Healthcare Act is hereby amended to read:

"The Atlasian Government, through the Atlasian National Health Care (ANHC) Program's regional offices, shall be financially obligated to cover:   90% 80% of costs from services and benefits provided to the enrolled by the participating providers for individuals below 250% 150% the poverty level; 50% of the costs from services and benefits provided to the enrolled by the participating providers for individuals between 250% 150% the poverty level and $250,000; and 10% of the costs from services and benefits provided to the enrolled by the participating providers for individuals above $250,000. The total out of pocket payment for you or your family for the whole year may not exceed beyond 5% 9% of your income if you make less than 250% 150% of the poverty level. It cannot exceed 15% 20% of your income if you make between 250% 150% of the poverty level and $250,000 a year. It cannot exceed above 25% of your income There shall be no limit on out of pocket expenses if you make more than $250,000 a year. Nothing will need to be paid for preventative care by anyone of any income.”

2. Health Savings Account (HSA) options shall be set up for employees. These healthcare savings accounts shall:
   1. Be used exclusively for health or health-related spending
   2. Be carried over year after year.
   3. Be invested at a rate of reasonable, sustainable growth.
   4. Be fully insured, in its full value by the federal government.

3. Employees will hereby have the option to divert up to half of their payroll tax to their health savings account. Employers will be given a break on their payroll taxes if they match more that 15% of employee contributions to their HSA’s. This tax break will be equivalent to 12% of their payroll tax bill.

4. If employees choose to accept an HSA, they will have ANHC benefits reduced by 7% for every 5% of payroll taxes invested. Preventative measures are exempted from reductions.

5. 75% of any unspent money designated to ANHC  shall carry over into the next year. The remaining 25% will be returned to the federal general fund.

6. ANHC will hereby offer a new option, High Risk Pooling, for individuals with high risk health situations, chronic conditions, and high medical needs. All individuals exhibiting these qualities, regardless of income, are eligible for joining the High Risk Pool. Individuals joining high risk pools shall receive monthly premium support to seek supplemental for their high risk situations and chronic conditions.

7. Premium support will provide no less than 40% of monthly premium cost. Insurance procured using premium support must cover chronic care and high-risk situations. Individuals in high risk pools will have their cost of coverage with insurance companies and cost of care with hospitals negotiated.

8. High Risk Pool management shall collaborate with healthcare providers and private insurance companies to reach an affordable price of care and coverage. Hospitals will be compensated for offering higher quality care to High Risk Individuals that avoids further hospitalization.

9. Those enrolling in High Risk Pools will no longer receive full ANHC benefits. Enrollees will receive 20% of normal ANHC benefits. Individuals deemed eligible for High Risk Pools but do not enroll will have their annual out-of-pocket cap lifted by 40%. They will pay an additional 15%-of-care coinsurance fee or $50 per service, whichever is greater.

10. Individuals enrolling High Risk Pools will have 50% of experimental treatment covered, aimed at treating chronic conditions. Catastrophic coverage will be provided at 90% of care cost.

11. ANHC benefits on chronic care are hereby reduced by 50%.

12. ANHC administrators shall create a wellness program that incentivizes the creation of health goals. The wellness programs will be the responsibility of the regions to coordinate who works with individuals to develop plans that target individual risks. Individuals developing achievable, beneficial, and responsible health goals. Upon certifying that the goals meet standards, a dollar amount, determined by administrators or administrator designates, will be attached to the plan’s fulfillment. Upon completion of the plan’s goals, a government contribution equivalent to the dollar amount on the plan will be made to the individuals’ Health Savings Account.

13.
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Section 2, Clause b of the New Atlasian Healthcare Act is hereby amended to read:
(b.) Licensed health care clinicians who perform a covered service under the ANHC, may not bill the patient for the portion of the bill covered by the ANHC.
78  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Reforming Atlasian Public Health Act of 2014 (Debating) on: April 22, 2014, 01:28:25 am
A bandage that will hopefully allow us to resume debate on some kind of reform package here.


Shua's proposal in the debate thread to switch from a sliding scale of benefits to a sliding scale of premiums interests me. I would be up for pursuing that along the lines he described, adding in the high risk pools and HSAs, which I recall he talked about too, whilst of course preserving coverage for the poor and preventative care.



I was talking about the sliding scale premium but people were not pretty happy with my idea that I consider much more sophysticated than indirect taxation for funding of the program.

Okay then lets get it done. You, me, shua and Lumine. Bring Duke in, get a set of numbers every one is happy and proceed from there.
79  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Residential Taxation Reform Act of 2014 (Debating) on: April 22, 2014, 01:25:37 am
I hope this amendment fails. How long has it been, shua, since we've been meaning to lower that damn payroll tax? As I recall, the Cain Train was at full steam back then.
80  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Residential Taxation Reform Act of 2014 (Debating) on: April 22, 2014, 01:21:48 am
NAY


Duke getting cranky isn't what you have to worry about. The "remains" of the last time I got cranky are littered about the floor.

Watch you don't step on badger's eyes over there Cincy, been meaning to give those things back. Scratched them out back in 2010.
81  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Save Our Sharks Act of 2014 (Debating) on: April 22, 2014, 01:16:12 am
I asked Duke to be certain that were both pretty sure (thats taking a position Tongue) that ole bgwah already did something like that, man.
82  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Save Our Sharks Act of 2014 (Debating) on: April 22, 2014, 01:14:02 am
I suppose it would have to be a separate bill, but why not ban the sale and consumption of meat from all endangered species?

I thought prohibitions on consumption were something that social libertarians were allergic to? Tongue

83  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Duke’s Let’s Put Atlasia to Work Program (Debating) on: April 22, 2014, 01:12:03 am
Quote from: Current Text Once Cincy Declares The Amendment PAssed
Duke’s Let’s Put Atlasia to Work Program

Section I: Cash for Startups
1. New businesses and all unincorporated businesses shall be eligible for the $1000 tax credit for new jobs described in Section II of the Corporate Tax Reform Act.
2. This tax credit shall be a refundable tax credit for full time jobs created by any new business, and such a business may request this tax to be converted to a cash equivalent.
3. “New businesses” defined under this program are businesses that have been open for 36 months or less.

Section II: Guaranteed Business Loan Program
1. $50 billion shall be appropriated to banks throughout Atlasia specifically reserved for business loans.
2. The federal government will guarantee eighty-percent of each loan lended by banks to each business.
3. The interest rate on a loan under this program will be capped at 9.25%. Banks may not charge a higher rate on loans under this program.
4. Loans under this program will be available to businesses who plan to commence business within a 6 month period of taking out the loan and available to any other type of business currently doing business, including municipal governments.
84  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Public means Public Act (Debating) on: April 22, 2014, 01:08:27 am
What does the PAcific have?
85  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: South American/Asian Trade Reform Act (At Final Vote) on: April 22, 2014, 01:04:15 am
Senators, this bill is now at final vote, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
86  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Amendment to the Paid Leave Act of 2013 (Amendment at Vote) on: April 22, 2014, 12:57:21 am
Quote from: Amendment 60:57 by TNF
Section 5. Paid Long Service Leave

1. Employees having been with an employer for at least 5 years shall have the right of paid long service leave.

2. Employers shall provide employees having been in their employee for at least 1,040 days with 30 days full paid time off.

3. The language in Subsection 2 of Section 5 of the Paid Leave Act of 2013 should not be construed as prohibiting employers from offering more than 30 paid long service leave days to long serving employees. Rather, it should be interpreted as requiring all employers to offer at least 30 paid long service days to employees.

4. Employees having been with an employer for at least 10 years shall have the right to 6 months paid leave.

Section 6. Family Care Leave


1. Employers shall provide the ability for employees to take leave to care for the needs of an ill, disabled or otherwise needy family member for up to 12 weeks per year.

2. Employers shall give employees the ability to roll over unused family care leave to the next year and to succeeding years.

3. Employers shall provide at least 75% of normal pay to employees on family care leave.

Section 7. Paid Leave Reimbursement and Funding

1. Employers shall have the ability to be reimbursed by the federal government in the form of a refundable tax credit for paid leave beyond 20% of an employee’s pay in any year.

2. An employee payroll tax of 10% on all paid leave covered under this act will be established for this purpose.


Section 8. Exemptions

1. Employers with 10 or fewer employees are exempt from the paid leave requirements of this act.

2. Employers are exempt from the paid leave requirements of this act in their first 3 years of operation if total income has not exceeded $500,000.

3. Employers exempt from paid leave requirements must still allow employees unpaid sick leave, parental leave and family care leave according to the specifications of this act and other applicable law.

4. Employees of employers exempt from paid leave requirements are exempt from the paid leave payroll tax.


Section 6.7 9 7. Implementation

1. The provisions of this Act will take effect upon its passage.

Sponsor Feedback: Origination
Status: Objected to by Shua. A vote is now open on this amendment, Senators please vote Aye, NAy or Abstain.
87  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Bill of Rights Amendment (Vote Halted) on: April 22, 2014, 12:54:14 am
So do we leave it out to improve the chnaces of passing, TNF? Other interested parties?
88  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: April Senate Election Discussion Thread - ELECTION TRACKER on: April 22, 2014, 12:32:09 am
When I knew I was going to be absent for a month of my possible future term... I didn't run.

Would have been worth the month of absence for the three months to follow though and overal much better then who got elected instead in that regard. Tongue

also would have been legal for one that long back then

While we are on the subject, if Alfred were to resign or get expelled... Wink
89  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Leave of Absence on: April 21, 2014, 09:09:09 pm
This whole argument just makes me sad all around. I'm dying here.

I'll be dead first at this rate.
90  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Leave of Absence on: April 21, 2014, 09:07:55 pm
Given that Goldwater "went on leave" and continued to post elsewhere on the forum, and then somehow got elected in spite of acting as little more than an empty-suit for the whole of his Senate term, I'm not entirely convinced that the Senate would even lift a finger to expel Alfred in the event that he was on leave past his due date. Tongue

There wasn't clear legal standing to actually expel Goldwater based on the circumstance, unlike the clear standing for a leave of a "month or so."  I guess I'm not surprised, why should someone announce their obvious intentions before an election?  Somehow my optimism that came with Griffin's election has now subsided, as I'm not sure how much the few actually active Senators can accomplish until they give up.  On a personal note, good luck with your exams.

Clear legal standing? As I have said numerous times, his leave was 100% legit, valid and up to snufff with the rules that Tyrion wrote last year.  Of course there was no grounds fo expulsion. Roll Eyes

Where is this bs being spread around? Does anyone both to check anything anymore?
91  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Leave of Absence on: April 21, 2014, 09:06:23 pm
Due to that pesky little thing I have called a "life outside of this forum", I will have to take a leave of absence starting on Friday, April 11th and ending on the next Friday, April 18th.

There is a blank spot from the 10th to the 18th in Goldwater's posting history.

I checked his profile numerous times and it said Last Activity the Tenth as recently as Wednesday or Thursday.

Goldwater also posted in the Senate up until the leave started.

So again what the hell are you and Snostalker talking about.
92  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Leave of Absence on: April 21, 2014, 09:02:00 pm
Given that Goldwater "went on leave" and continued to post elsewhere on the forum, and then somehow got elected in spite of acting as little more than an empty-suit for the whole of his Senate term, I'm not entirely convinced that the Senate would even lift a finger to expel Alfred in the event that he was on leave past his due date. Tongue

Goldwater didn't post on his leave. His leave was from the 11th to the 18th. The set dates given in the LOA. Just becaause he psoted it at the end of last month, doesn't mean it started then. That leave would have been illegal then for length reasons, just like Alfred's in that case.

What is with Laborites and these fing factually innaccurate narratives. Is there no concern anymore for truth? Roll Eyes
93  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Leave of Absence on: April 21, 2014, 08:49:13 pm
LEave cannot last longer then 368 hours (about 16 days).

It also cannot last until the end of the term, announcing one that does is itself a grounds for expulsion as per Tyrion's amendment late last year.
94  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Leave of Absence on: April 21, 2014, 08:32:18 pm
Also I don't you are allowe to declare a leave of absence that extends to the end of the term.
95  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: April Senate Election Discussion Thread - ELECTION TRACKER on: April 21, 2014, 08:21:28 pm
>takes a leave of absence
>continues posting on the rest of the forum
>gets re-elected to the Senate anyway


How long have you taken leave of the facts?

Goldwater was not on the site, more or less posting during the stated duration of his leave.

Thanks for the JCL vote by the way, really provided some unexpected assistance. Wink
96  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Leave of Absence on: April 21, 2014, 07:43:23 pm
This is in the wrong board and it doesn't give specific dates. Both are required in order to be covered from possible Expulsion/Impeachment Proceedings.

I couldn't live with myself if we lost your beautiful prose. Tongue
97  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Give Peace a Chance Act of 2014 (Debating) on: April 21, 2014, 07:38:04 pm
Quote from: Amendment 60:59 by TNF
The Give Peace a Chance Act of 2014

1. All current military and economic sanctions currently in place on Israel shall be lifted until February 1st, 2015 in order to allow time for peace negotiations between the newly elected Israeli government and the Palestinian Authority, should Israel agree to negotiations that, at minimum, recognize Palestinian statehood and immediately halt the building of settlements in Palestinian territories.

2. The Republic of Atlasia hereby recognizes the Palestinian Authority as the legitimate government of the areas which it controls and shall establish full and formal relations with the state of Palestine, hereafter recognized as any territory subject to the jurisdiction of the Palestinian Authority.

Sponsor Feedback: Hostile
STatus: Vote can be started at any time.
98  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Save Our Sharks Act of 2014 (Debating) on: April 21, 2014, 07:37:06 pm
Quote from: Amendment 60:63 by shua
The Save Our Sharks Act of 2014

1. The sale and consumption of shark meat in Atlasia is hereby prohibited.

2. The practice of finning sharks is hereby prohibited and shall be punishable with a fine of no more than $50,000 for every shark that has had its fins cut off or otherwise mutilated.

3. Partial economic sanctions will be put in place against any countries that do not outlaw and actively punish their citizens and residents fisherman who engage in the practice of shark finning.  These sanctions will primarily target the importation of foodstuffs from said country.

3. The Senate urges the SoEA to seek the protection of sharks through convention and treaty with other nations.

4. The federal government shall establish an S.O.S board in order to provide a biannual evaluation of the extent to which governments that have prohibited shark finning in theory are actually enforcing the ban in practice.

Sponsor Feedback: Hostile
STatus: Vote tomorrow afternoon
99  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Reforming Atlasian Public Health Act of 2014 (Debating) on: April 21, 2014, 07:36:23 pm
Likewise bump up the number again. See Save our Sharks post for the reason.
100  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: 60th Senate Noticeboard on: April 21, 2014, 07:30:56 pm
Amendment Overflow Chamber
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