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76  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Do you support Atlasia adopting a bicameral legislature? on: May 20, 2015, 12:14:34 am
I would like to reaffirm my staunch and firm opposition to the Fix the Regions Amendment and the Bicameral Birthing Amendment. Quite frankly, the policy to reduce the regions from five to three comes from an archaic system that has already been fixed. Speaker Turkisblau and Governor Simfan have revived the Pacific, Flo has revived the South, and Governor TDAS made the Mideast active once again (as I have faith that windjammer will if he wins). It's also worth noting that Senator TNF has shown his commitment to Atlasia, and that I also have faith in him that the Midwest will be more active under his leadership. Instead of one region without activity problems, we have three, with two regions likely to have active governors by June.

After all, why solve the problems of May and June with a plan from last August and September?

With all due respect, this is just horribly wrong. The fact is that the problem with activity and competition is just as much of a problem now as it was before and will be just as much of a problem in the future, and an objective solution to the problem is always going to be valid because the problem itself is structural. Nobody could have anticipated the structural issues in the beginning with crafting five separate regions, yet it has remained unfixed for years. Let's break the regions down one-by-one with the actual stats, since they were referenced:

Pacific: FAILING

Turkisblau is essentially talking to himself. The Governor hasn't engaged with legislation or on the Regional Governments board since March 19th (excluding his court case Pacific v. Poirot). There have been a grand total of two bills introduced in the Pacific Council since the beginning of April: Reinstatement of the Pacific Protection of Commerce in Arms Act & The Pacific Organ Donation Act of 2015. Cranberry (not a Councilor) is the only other person besides Turkisblau to say a word about them. Before these, the last bill to pass/fail the Council passed on April 2. Elections are never competitive and even if they are, it is in name only, as Councillors are apt to never swear in or show up once they have.


Very low levels of engagement in this region, but it blows the Pacific out of the water, for at least others are actually speaking. There have been three bills introduced in the Althing since the beginning of April: the Je Suis Charlie Day Resolution, the Fifth Most Serene Republic of the Midwest Constitution, & the Heating Fuel Reduction Bill. Speaker Dereich, Governor Gass and Representative Fuzzybigfoot are essentially the only three individuals engaging on legislation and amendments at this point. Fielding more candidates for Althing than there are seats is rare.


Definitely doing better than either the Midwest or the Pacific, the South seems stable for the time being. There have been six pieces of legislation/regional amendments introduced since the beginning of April (I don't include federal amendments voted on by the Legislature as part of this measurement, because that's not really indicative of regional activity). There have been 73 replies to all bills; 64 non-procedural replies. 60% of all non-procedural engagement came from PiT and Duke (22 replies from PiT, 17 from Duke). It just had a competitive election and 2/3 seats' worth of turnover, so we'll see what happens in the future.


The Mideast is the largest region, so it should be the most prosperous. However, I don't believe that is the case - maybe the 2nd most prosperous, but it has structural issues. The Governor is constantly coming and going, which can make legislative processes more difficult depending on the outcome. There have been five pieces of legislation introduced since the beginning of April. There have been 184 replies to all bills; a healthy mixture of contributions from all elected representatives. Again, weighing the issue with inactivity in the executive branch here against the concentration of contributions in the South makes it hard to say which region is better off.


Since the overall purpose was to outline what's wrong, I'm not going to write much here about the Northeast. It is both large enough and naturally competitive enough - with a variety of different parties and ideologies having roughly equal presences and no one possessing a majority - that the best rises to the top. By my quick count, 23 pieces of legislation have come to the floor since the beginning of April. Debate by and large is healthily spread across representatives.

So yes, as almost always, we have three regions that are either doing well or are sufficiently healthy enough to be considered successes, and two other regions that are floundering. The current environment is actually a pretty good (but still average) result: just as often, we have only two stable or thriving regions with three struggling or failing. The names of the regions considered healthy or not may and do change over time, but the overall balance is always present: three decent regions and two terrible ones. The only long-term and permanent solution to guarantee the health of all regions is to recognize this reality and reduce their presence to three.

So the competative regions do well and those that are one sided are not? Shocker.

Pacific needs a competative opposition party. One Party rule has ruined it since the beginning. Be it the Ford-WMS organization, Bgwah and thE JCP, Liebruls, Labor and now TPP. One party takes it over and the opposition just melts away leaving them dominant to do whatever or not do whatever they want. It also didn't help that people left the Pacific for other regions both last year and this year, for regions that were in large part doing much better. Of course that is a natural occurence in such circumstances, such contributes to damaging the Pacific far more.

The NE, South, Mideast will vote out an inactive Governor and that was the case even when the Feds dominated the last two, though usually they ended up retiring in that case.

Anyway, Kudos to Speaker PiT and Archduke Dereich. Smiley Tongue
77  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Do you support Atlasia adopting a bicameral legislature? on: May 20, 2015, 12:04:02 am
Those posts are scattered all over the place and it's a pain for me to try and relocate them, so I'll just say this: the only way you can have bicameralism is if you reduce the number of regions.

Yes, if you insist on the eleven member lower house like that which you proposed and had numbers to justify with. Basically, you would transition activity and candidates to the Federal level from the regional level, end up with a slightly fewer number of offices overal. One think you definately would have with that many members is the concern that things would take much longer to sort out and for the legsilative branch to function.

Consolidation is polling worse then bimcameralism (52% Nay versus 60% Nay).

Both are down considerably from two years ago. But Bicameralism's support number was 48% and now it seems to be 47%. The difference is the undecideds are all being pushed in this current poll being conucted and are going for the safe bet, "no".  Consolidation has fluctuated wildly though in support and runs headlong into regional jealousies over territory and such forth.

Bicameralism has merits on my own in my view and as well as negatives, it certainly is more than just a tagalong to consolidation and in this case, a more subdued lower house (smaller) that still leaves the balance roughly the same (five to seven members, for a net 0 change in offices) might be the more practical option.


78  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Disgraced former Pres. candidate Sirnick strikes again, vandalizes Fantasy Wiki on: May 19, 2015, 11:49:43 pm
I miss the Era of Good(gay) Feeling.

Preach it, brotha.

Hard to believe that it has already been a year almost. Sad
79  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: RGN Polls (#1) : Government/Presidential Election (FINAL FIGURES) on: May 19, 2015, 11:43:13 pm
I'll settle for second most approved Atlasian; who can beat homely? For once, Atlasia got it right.

Generally the RG/SoFE team usually gets the highest numbers. It means people are willing to look past your controversial persona and partisanship to judge your well established competence in a non-partisan position.

So yes, Atlasia does get it right and the polling isn't always worthless. Tongue
80  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Disgraced former Pres. candidate Sirnick strikes again, vandalizes Fantasy Wiki on: May 18, 2015, 06:28:29 pm
No, it was not a "story line," it was a conscious and deliberate attempt to inflict harm across the spectrum. And I should have fired his ass sooner.

I have to concede a lot here, for the simple fact that my lack of internet access hampered my vantage point of what happened. What I saw, fit a previous dynamic of aggressive and bold GMs being restrained by a far more "Conservative" view of how the office should run. I knew of none of the manipulation, or any of the scheming beforehand.

Finally, the GM is incapable of damaging anyone for the simple fact that he can only post a storyline. The White House can be rebuilt. Hell the damn thing was burnt down in The War of 1812. Economies going to Depression. Reality, is sometimes hostile to Presidents, and The GM is suppose to simulate reality. The best Presidents are those who have turned around the worst circumstances.

Considering what happened, haven't you considered this was exactly his plan (provoking your reaction, not the storyline itself) to in fact "get you"? He certainly benefited in the aftermath at your expense.
81  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Disgraced former Pres. candidate Sirnick strikes again, vandalizes Fantasy Wiki on: May 18, 2015, 06:17:02 pm

And Sirnick was a devious plotter. We had chat evidence that he had been planning for days to "get the President" or whatever the exact words were at the time. It's one thing to make specific people targets as part of game story; it's quite another to do it in the premeditated and elaborate way in which he was doing it. Kalwejt doesn't go bragging on IRC about how he's going to do something big to the President a week before it happens.

And I am suppose to have seen this how?

You don't give one's excesses the pleasure of excesses of your own. Rather then gross expansion of the power of the Presidency, the best path would have been for Senate removal. If this evidence was present then it should have been used to push for such.

And no, I don't blame DemPGH for starting the Civil War. Just like I don't blame Buchanan for starting the Civil War in RL, but in both cases a Pennsylvania Democrat "tried to solve a problem" and violated the relationship between their office and another to do so and in the process pushed the country past a point of no return. In fairness to DemPGH, he had no idea about Tyrion and certainly no idea that a bunch of people would just go crazy in response.
82  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: B.B. King dead at 89. on: May 18, 2015, 02:30:38 am
A terrible loss and off all days too. Sad
83  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Any boll weevil/Bourbon Democrats here? on: May 18, 2015, 02:17:38 am
I would've been one in the late 19th century.

I'd have been either this or a fairly standard pro-business, pro-commerce GOPer (save for more lenient views on trade) in the late 19th century.  

Most Republicans were I think becoming the same by that time, or least many GOP leaning business interests were starting to say (yea, this has gone to far, we need foreign markets now not protection from competitors who would never beat us anyway). Any benefit protectionism had, was gone by 1890 if not 1881. Certainly, once we had become the largest economy.

I would have been a firm Republican from 1854 until FDR. Democrats are traitors afterall. Tongue
84  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Jeffersonian vs. Hamiltonian Economics on: May 18, 2015, 02:09:17 am
What I find interesting is the link between "Jeffersonian economics" and westward expansion/Indian removal.

If you oppose concentrating in cities, then spreading out across the land and booting off its inconvenient inhabitants becomes essential.
85  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Wilhelm II as a person on: May 18, 2015, 02:06:20 am
As a child, he kicked his hemophiliac cousin who was trying to reign him in at some ball or some such gathering. nuff said.
86  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: CNN: Kasich likely running on: May 18, 2015, 02:01:52 am
YES! RUN KASICH RUN! Split that RINO vote good!

Kasich is more fiscally conservative than any Republican President since Calvin Coolidge.

The difference from Romney is, he realizes he has to get working class and poor people to vote for him to win.

That said Kasich's centrist rhetoric might be a bit too early and cause problems in the primary obviously, which would be a shame considering his strong record.
87  General Politics / Economics / Re: Bank Nationalization on: May 18, 2015, 01:55:14 am
The results would be a disaster.

Having a public bank competing with other traditional banking institutions is nothing like having gov't take over all the investment banks.
88  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Disgraced former Pres. candidate Sirnick strikes again, vandalizes Fantasy Wiki on: May 18, 2015, 01:27:27 am

Except for the part where he descended us into civil war. Tongue

At the time, Sirnick was just a bold GM trying to flex the muscles of the office (basically what Kalwejt is now). Granted Sirnick's storyline probably went to far, but at the end of the day the office has to command some kind of respect and as much as I like DemPGH, underming it was not a good idea. Also we have the results of such actions to consider as well and the impact on the country.
89  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The Right Baits the Left to Turn Against Hillary Clinton on: May 18, 2015, 01:17:37 am
I still have not seen any reason for why the left should have anything to do with Hillary.

Simple:  Hillary is the best chance for Dems to defeat the Republicans.  Let's be honest; given the Tea Party and increasing fiscal conservatism of the GOP along with a growing fissure in the Democratic Party between the business interests & Occupy Wall Street Types, there is one unifying trait among them:  they want to defeat the GOP. 

To achieve that end, then Hillary is your candidate.

Who better to rally anti-big business voters then the most Wall Street oriented Democrat out there? Someone is going to get screwed in the end and isn't the guys rolling in the piles of cash.
90  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: CNN: Kasich likely running on: May 18, 2015, 01:13:06 am

"I've said all along that I think there's too much greed on Wall Street,"

If only Romney would have occassionally talked like that.

91  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Childcare Reform Act (Debating) on: May 18, 2015, 01:03:18 am
How about you give people a subsidy, assuming the subsidy format is used, an amount equivalent to said percentages of the cost at daycare matching said X,Y,Z criteria. Parents still have choice and at the same time will be limited as far as the subisdy goes with amount said daycare costs, versus the quality delivered of coursed.
92  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Cooperatives Administration Act of 2015 (Debating) on: May 18, 2015, 12:59:33 am
Could I at least get an answer to my equestion from a week ago? Tongue
93  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Let's Stop Tricking the Newbies Act (Debating) on: May 18, 2015, 12:57:00 am
Yea, that would help out a lot. I noticed a few before that were overlooked. I know from experience it can be annoying (try having your dial up internet connection jam whilst just trying to update that thread title to reflect a vote starting or stopping. Tongue), but it is a courtesy well worth the time and effort.
94  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Alleviating Rural Poverty Act of 2015 on: May 18, 2015, 12:48:03 am
Yeah, I can't remember exactly why I put that in there, maybe some sort of brain freeze. I originally was going to ask for some sort of tax on second homes but then decided, bizarrely, that that wasn't within our authority so put this in instead.

With regard to Hagrid, I guess we're working with somewhat different versions of rural, but I agree it makes no sense to send one bus to a house an hours drive from anywhere. It's also important that I'm not trying to get a similar level of bus service to that in the cities, the demand simply isn't there. That said, almost every town and village in the UK has at least some, it may only be once or twice a day, access to a bus service, and I see no reason why we shouldn't do the same in atlasia.

The main problem with subsidising cars is that there are whole sections of the population who can't use them, like the very elderly, whereas everyone can use a bus.

There are places where there are towns that spread out as Hagrid alluded too and they have too few people to sustain such a long trip fuel wise and such.

True, but there are also places where they aren't ludicrously inefficient but aren't commercially viable. Even one or two buses a day to a regional centre would be a real benefit for remote areas. And, frankly, if virtually every village in the highlands can have at least one or two buses a day going somewhere I don't see why most areas in atlasia can't.

North Carolina hill country alone would match or exceed the Scottish Highlands. Add in WV, PA, KY, TN, GA, VA and MD and that is just part of Appalachia.

You have vast stretches of deserts in AZ and plains in Tornado alley where that trip could be a hundred miles just for a small town center.
95  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Reintroducing the Cabinet Reform Amendment on: May 18, 2015, 12:43:05 am
Well, I don't consider Yanke's song as a willingness to participate to the debates, so, I don't have to start a vote ending the debates. Tongue

Senators have 24 hours to object.

I reserve the right to object,

Only the last line "I don't like it but I guess things happen that way..." is a song. The rest was just a list establishing a sarcastic point. Tongue

I withdraw my objection. Proceed. Wink

96  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: During which month were you born? on: May 18, 2015, 12:15:59 am
I just lifted May into second place. Smiley

97  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: 2.75 million Romney voters will be dead by 2016. on: May 18, 2015, 12:08:55 am
The future is Paul! Tongue
98  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Alaska Scenario: Begich vs Miller on: May 17, 2015, 11:58:13 pm
If Stevens would have retired, Begich never would have been Senator. The Palin wave in the state would have assured that as it almost dragged Stevens back in despite the indictment.

Begich wins head to head, Miller wins a three way. Democrats are not going to settle for big oild Lisa when they can have Begich instead. Conservative and Libertarian Republicans would support Miller. Somethine like 36% Miller, 33% Begich, 31% Murkowski. This assumes that Republicans get back to 60% in 2012 without Romney, and Murkowski still has some Dem support but not anywhere close to 2010 levels.
99  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: January 3, 2019 on: May 17, 2015, 11:51:07 pm
The chance for overwhelming the Dems with a Presidential sweep was 2012, which could have given us a 61-39 Senate if literally every possible seat blew our way with no mistakes.

Winning back to back is highly unlikely, though if one person has a record of fighting it out not just when he is up, but also when his party is up, it is Scott Walker who managed to salvage the recalls, The Judicial race and his own hide twice after being first elected and pursuing a controversial agenda. Repeating that nationwide is possible, but difficult.

Abortion illegalization is tricky because of the court and that probably takes longer than 2019 to achieve because you need to appoint people to the Court and confirm them, and then pass legislation that a court would use a couple of years down the road to overturn Roe. The court could also throw out both Roe and the said test law, leaving it up to the states.

You could get a 20 weeks bill though under that scenario and fairly quickly.

One thing to keep it mind is that if you try to impose something on someone that they disagree with, chances are they will get angry and vote you out.  You can legislate all you want, but if you are losing the war, winning the battle can be pyrrhic and self defeating. Worse, it could result in the election of people who will go to the other extreme and repeal current pro-life legislation.
100  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Who would set the agenda for the Republicans 2001-2006 if Newt was still speaker on: May 17, 2015, 11:25:40 pm
Newt supported Medicare Part D.
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