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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: April 2015 At-large Senate Election on: Today at 06:19:12 pm
AT-LARGE SENATE


[  ] Blair2015 of Massachusetts
Labor Party



[2] Cris of Kansas
Civic Renewal



[  ] Lief of Vermont
Labor Party



[3] North Carolina Yankee of North Carolina
Federalist Party



[1] Poirot of Quebec
Independent



[  ] Polnut of Massachusetts
The People's Party



[  ] Write-in:______________________________
-__________________



[  ] None of the above
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Northeast Voting Booth: April Assembly Elections on: Today at 06:17:06 pm
Official Ballot

Northeast Assembly
Five people will be elected to the Assembly.

[6] Clyde1998 (Labor - Massachusetts)
[5] Dr. Cynic (Labor - Pennsylvania)
[4] Castro2012 (The People's Party - Connecticut)
[3] Pikachu (The People's Party - New Jersey)
[2] Altsomn Jósef Stmarken (Federalist - Maine)
[1] Dkrolga (Civic Renewal - Massachusetts)
[ ] Write-in:____________
[ ] None of the Above
[ ] Abstain
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: GOP Primary Atlas Poll, April 2015 (GOP Primary voters only) on: April 16, 2015, 09:24:48 pm
Impatient aren't you? Smiley Rubio then. Wonder who voted for Cruz. That would be the hardcore "fringe" as it were around here - must be fraudulent Dem votes, like maybe Eraserhead's. Tongue

Believe it or not, not every Republican on this forum is some kind of libertarian or moderate hero.  There are social conservatives and Tea Partiers here.  The social conservatives and Tea Partiers might not post much on controversial issues because it makes little sense to pick fights, but we do exist.

Of the three declared candidates, Cruz is closest to what many social conservatives and Tea Partiers view as sharing their values.  Rand Paul is too soft on foreign policy.  Rubio is too soft on immigration.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Northeast Voting Booth: The 21st Amendment on: April 15, 2015, 05:59:55 pm
Nay
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Christie fails to report income, avoids $152k in taxes on: April 14, 2015, 09:07:26 pm
That is correct, but the article should have used the verb "evade" rather than "avoid." Apparently if you don't have receipts to document your expenses, then whatever expense allowance you are paid by the state becomes wage income. Christie didn't have the receipts, either because he incurred no expenses (in which event what he did is flat out illegal), or if he did, does not have the receipts. If he can find or secure from vendors the receipts, than his tax problem to that extent is correctable.

I don't see how a CPA could have signed his tax return, assuming one did. If he told the CPA he had receipts, but lied to the CPA, then he is in real trouble, maybe criminal trouble.

Anyway, he's done. Even if, to be extremely generous and give him the benefit of the doubt, in a situation that looks really bad, he was just negligent, a guy who is negligent is not good POTUS material, obviously.

Christie's office now denies the article's tax treatment, claiming that the expense account is not required to be included in Christie's income.  Christie's office claims that any yearly excess was returned to the state, despite the claims made in the article.  

Also, just because no receipts were required to be provided to the legislature doesn't mean that no receipts were kept or that the Governor's office didn't have an official policy requiring receipts from its employees.

You'd think that if the expense account were to be included in income, the state would have been required to include it on Christie's W-2, no?  If they didn't, it's hard to see how the IRS could come after Christie criminally, receipts or no receipts.
6  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Honolulu on: April 12, 2015, 07:04:49 pm
I don't know why Census uses the Urban Honolulu CCP as default for the population of Honolulu, instead of the City and County of Honolulu's population.  I do know that in Hawaii, like in19 other states, Census carves unincorporated areas of counties into Census County Divisions (CCDs) for statistical purposes, instead of using Minor Civil Divisions (MCDs).  But California and Florida are also two states where CCDs are used, so, in theory, Census could have carved the city and county of San Francisco into CCDs if it really wanted to.

Jacksonville, Florida isn't coterminous with Duval County for Census' purposes.  Four municipalities in Duval County (Baldwin, Atlantic Beach, Neptune Beach, and Jacksonville Beach) retained their muncipal governments, and, although their residents get to vote in Jacksonville's local elections, Census does not treat the 40,000 or so residents of those towns as living in the city of Jacksonville.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Tennessee on verge of banning phones, cameras at polling places on: April 11, 2015, 03:01:33 pm
This is nothing new.  Photographing inside the polling place is already illegal in many states.

Not having a ban on photography in the voting both itself could lead to voter intimidation, either due to others taking a picture of those who voted, possibly including their secret ballot, or through bosses or union officials requiring voters to photograph their ballots to show they voted the "correct" way.  So there is a basis for banning photography in the voting booth.
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Attention governors: The 21st Amendment on: April 07, 2015, 05:14:00 pm
What is the reason for this amendment?
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Kansas passes law banning food stamp receipients from pools, movie theaters on: April 07, 2015, 02:16:26 pm
I can't believe Republicans are okay with the bank account freezing aspect. The government taking control of your money and demanding how it be spent is hardly a libertarian concept.

It's almost as if poor people just completely don't matter to them.

What bank account freezing aspect? As someone else said, most government benefits these days are on their own EBT card, linked to that account.  Banning welfare benefits from being used at strip clubs or theme parks is as simple as blocking card use there.  Similarly, blocking the purchase of tobacco or whatever with welfare benefits can easily be done electronically.  Nothing is stopping a welfare recipient from using money in a personal bank account to go to a strip club or buy cigarettes, or auditing that personal account.
10  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: San Antonio's lack of suburbs on: April 05, 2015, 10:44:56 pm
San Antonio is almost smack dab in the middle of Bexar County, and has annexed a lot of the land in the county as the population has grown outwards from the core.  Growth is just now spreading beyond county lines, with Comal County (New Braunfels) being the 10th fastest-growing county with a population over 10,000 last year.  The area in between San Antonio and Austin is known as the Texas Hill Country, which also might limit development somewhat.  But with growth from Austin moving south into Hays County (the 6th fastest-growing county last year) and San Antonio sprawling northwestward into Comal County, it's only a matter of time until the I-35 corridor between the two cities becomes more like the I-95 corridor in the Northeast, with suburbs sprawling from Austin to San Antonio.

The north side of San Antonio has traditionally been richer and more Anglo than the south side, while much of Austin's growth traditionally has sprawled northward into Williamson County.
11  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Can anyone explain the pattern in this map? on: April 03, 2015, 03:42:13 pm
Two other states that have an outside shot at flipping if growth rates in their second non-capital cities ramp up a bit are Wyoming (Casper) and West Virginia (Huntington). 

Casper has been growing faster than Cheyenne from 2010-2013, but a lot of that growth is likely due to oil and gas exploration.  So unless oil prices rebound, I doubt it will happen.

As for West Virginia, Charleston has been shrinking while Huntington is stagnant or slowly growing, and their populations are already close.  All it woukd take is a point or two difference in relative growth rates over the rest of the decade for Huntington to pass Charleston.  Huntington is at least a college town, so it could happen.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Check out this local dumb redneck lose his mind about Muslims on: April 03, 2015, 01:32:26 am
What would be the right forum? It is a politically charged incident, so I would definitely belongs somewhere. Off Topic Board is mostly sports threads.
Off Topic or Religion or wherever the mods place threads about when a random non-politico says controversial stuff about religion.  Some random dude saying something controversial jumping to conclusions about a Muslim student group and ISIS isn't really about politics.
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Check out this local dumb redneck lose his mind about Muslims on: April 03, 2015, 01:23:24 am
The guy is not even an elected official and doesn't represent anyone but himself.  What does this have to do with General Politics-U.S. General Discussion?  I think it's in the wrong forum.
14  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Can anyone explain the pattern in this map? on: April 03, 2015, 12:24:41 am
Yes, Vermont and South Carolina were mistakes. In Vermont's case I realized shortly later that Burlington wasn't the capital, but in the case of SC I was aware of where the capital was, I just assumed Charleston was the largest city, which was not true.

But yes that's it.

Columbia is the capital of South Carolina, not Charleston.  It is also the state's largest city.  So it is colored correctly.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pence signed it: Add Indiana to the list of states with "religious freedom" laws on: April 03, 2015, 12:08:14 am
Most likely, swastika cakes are not a service that any bakeries (Jewish or otherwise) offer to anybody. The issue here is a minority getting the same service already offered to everybody else.  Are you being this obtuse on purpose?

Some bakeries will put whatever you want on a cake, no questions asked.  Why shouldn't gays or Jewish bakers be held to the same standards?  The issue is forcing someone to do something they find offensive, ratifying, under penalty of law, something they don't believe in.  

And when a gay bakery, who writes messages on cakes, (rightfully) refuses to put a pro-tradtional marriage message on a cake, why isn't that issue a minority - religious people who think gay marriage is a sin - getting the same service already offered to everybody else, too?  Are some minority groups more special than others?
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pence signed it: Add Indiana to the list of states with "religious freedom" laws on: April 03, 2015, 12:00:02 am
No one is compelled to do anything, but if you go into a certain business, there are rules you must follow.  Not being discriminatory is one of them (or well in this case should be).  If you want to be discriminatory in your personal life have at it.  If you can't put your hate aside to not be discriminatory in business, well no one is forcing you or compelling you to go into the business.

The notion that you have to check your religious beliefs at the door when you go into business is so pre-Hobby Lobby.  And if a gay baker can't just put his "hate" aside and not discriminate against religious people wanting a pro-traditional marriage cake, well, no one is forcing or compelling him to go into business, right?  Should black restaurants be forced to cater the next Klan rally, too?
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pence signed it: Add Indiana to the list of states with "religious freedom" laws on: April 02, 2015, 11:49:10 pm
Again, we seem to be relitigating the Civil Rights Act of 1964. No one is insisting "anyone," this is about vendors who provide services to couples that are not religious in nature outside of people's tortured rationales.

We are not relitigating the Civil Rights Act.  We are relitigating Hobby Lobby, which held that closely held businesses are just as entitled to freedom of religion as individuals under the federal version of RFRA.  Whether the thing that the government is forcing a business to do is religious in nature is irrelevant.  Providing birth control in itself isn't religious in nature.  But forcing someone who believes birth control is a sin to buy birth control for its workers violates the federal RFRA statute.  Indiana is just creating a state version of the same statute, updated to reflect Hobby Lobby - a federal law which was signed into law by Democratic President Clinton, that evil "conservative" bigot.

Should gay bakeries be required to create cakes with messages supporting marriage as only being between a man and a woman?  Should Jewish bakers be required to create swastika cakes for their neo-nazi clients?  Of course not, because that's offensive to them.  Well, gay marriage is just as offensive to some religious people.  Why should they be coerced under penalty of law to support your "progressive" secular beliefs when you're not compelled under penalty of law to support their religious beliefs?  After all, you're just a "vendor" providing services.
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II on: April 01, 2015, 11:27:25 pm
Nominations are closed. Members have 24 hours to vote for a Speaker (until 9:03, April 2)

Ballot:
[ ] dkrol


If only one person is nominated, there is no need for a vote.  That person is automatically named Speaker.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Northeast Chief Judicial Officer Rpryor03 on: April 01, 2015, 07:23:02 pm
You also have February 19 in the last paragraph before the ballot, instead of April.
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pence signed it: Add Indiana to the list of states with "religious freedom" laws on: April 01, 2015, 05:06:49 pm
We needn't structure our laws around a few nutters here and there, who for whatever reason, incorrectly believe that a wedding, by definition, has to be a religious ceremony. That's just a flatly absurd suggestion.

Please explain why anyone should be compelled, under penalty of law, to participate in someone else's wedding ceremony, religious, civil or whatever.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: indiana is a theocratic hellhole, part 2936 on: March 31, 2015, 04:46:34 pm
Disgusting stuff from the Christian Right once again.  What else is there to be said? 

Even the left-wing website that produced this article admits that the woman gave birth and then threw the baby in the trash.  A jury convicted her of that crime.  Does the secular left support the killing of born children now?

What a woman does with her body is not meant to be judged by a jury, prude.

The lady in question gave birth to the fetus.  Whether it was stillborn may have been subject to debate at trial, but, reading between the lines of a terribly biased article, the jury must have found that the baby was born alive to convict her of one of the crimes. 

So again I ask, does the secular left support the killing of born children now?
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: indiana is a theocratic hellhole, part 2936 on: March 31, 2015, 04:33:18 pm
Disgusting stuff from the Christian Right once again.  What else is there to be said? 

Even the left-wing website that produced this article admits that the woman gave birth and then threw the baby in the trash.  A jury convicted her of that crime.  Does the secular left support the killing of born children now?
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Harry Reid retires!!! on: March 27, 2015, 04:38:11 pm
Good riddance to a real HP.  And good luck to Democrats with the obnoxious Chuck Schumer as Minority Leader.  The face of the party will be "progressives" from San Francisco and New York City.  That will play real well in the rest of the country.
24  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Mid-2014 county population estimates out tomorrow, March 26 on: March 26, 2015, 09:36:06 pm
Why are Illinois and New Mexico losing people? Huh Especially Illinois? I know growth slowed, but with immigration it should be growing?

There is about three times more domestic outmigration (-95,000)  from Illinois as foreign immigration (32,000), and the natural birth/death increase (54,000) doesn't make up the gap.  In other words, three times more U.S. residents are leaving than foreigners coming in, and there are not enough new babies to make up the gap.  People are moving from high-tax, high-cost, cold states like Illinois to the Sun Belt.

Illinois would be in an even worse position without the Chicagoland collar counties (i.e. suburbs and exurbs).  Cook County itself (Chicago) lost 179 residents.

New Mexico hasn't typically been a fast-growing state.  It is too cold to be truly sunbelt, and its main city isn't a regional hub like Denver.  Residents are moving out (-14,200), while very few foreigners are moving in (2,700), and net births/deaths (10,000) don't fully make up the difference.   What little growth there is has been largely due to oil workers in the counties around Carlsbad in the Southeast, and slow growth in the Albuquerque-Santa Fe corridor.
25  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Mid-2014 county population estimates out tomorrow, March 26 on: March 26, 2015, 08:22:48 pm
Interestingly, the entire population growth in NY is downstate. Since 2010 the state grew by 368,115 of which 368,179 is downstate (NYC, Long Island and Westchester - about 380 thousand if you include Rockland). The rest of the state actually lost a grand total of 64 residents Smiley

The core NYC metro counties are growing faster than the NYC exurbs in the CSA.  Bronx, Queens and Kings (Brooklyn) Counties picked up the most people, while Rockland grew fastest.  Nassau, Westchester, New York (Manhattan) and Orange grew slightly faster than the rest of the state, while Richmond (Staten Island) grew slower than the rest of the state, Suffolk was flat and Putnam, Dutchess and Ulster lost population. 

Similar patterns can be seen most of the more far-flung areas of the New Jersey, Connecticut and Pennsylvania parts of the CSA, with far-flung exurban Sussex and Hunterdon Counties, NJ losing population, along with Monroe, Pike and Carbon Counties, PA and New Haven and Litchfield Counties, CT.  Ocean County, NJ bucked the trend, likely due to its Orthodox Jewish and retirement communities, as did the two Allentown-area counties.
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