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26  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Streep tirade shows Hollywood Elite hypocrisy on: January 12, 2017, 09:21:36 pm
Nevertheless, Hollywood hypocrisy must be revealed when it happens.

I question how much the 20 million dollar a picture Hollywood elite really care about the plight of the handicapped, or about the strife faced daily by the working classes and the struggling masses.
27  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Here we go again. If Trump has to replace Pence as VP, who does he pick? on: January 12, 2017, 09:02:53 pm
Well, almost 63,000,000 people ended up supporting Donald Trump.

Hillary Clinton is not exactly a well spring of virtue and moral rectitude.

And quite honestly, I am not in the least concerned with what  your personal opinion of me may be.

Well, I will remind you these posts when you endorse Trump´s impeachment Smiley

Ah, if Trump ends up getting impeached, then the nation will be in the very capable hands of Mike Pence, and I would be perfectly fine with that.

And if Trump is found guilty of an impeachable offence, or of impeachable offences, then of course he should be impeached, which, under those circumstances, I would support his impeachment.

If Trump commits no impeachable offence or offences, then the American public should unite in their support for their President and get behind him while he does his job.
28  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Will Trump be impeached? on: January 12, 2017, 05:06:36 pm
No
29  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Here we go again. If Trump has to replace Pence as VP, who does he pick? on: January 12, 2017, 04:37:40 pm
In retrospect, Pence was a great pick. A bland, nondescript figure who wouldn't overshadow Trump, yet provided the anchor and tie between him and the traditional GOP. Someone like Greg Abbott of Texas would step into that role nicely.

Thank you for your input.

I completely agree, Pence was a great pick.  He did his job well in the campaign, and I have every confidence that he will be a competent, hard working, and very effective Vice President.  He has the ability and the experience to move the administration agenda through Congress.

Your suggestion of Greg Abbot is interesting.  He is for sure clearly a capable and effective leader, who has overcome tremendous obstacles to get to where he is today, Governor of one of the largest states in the union.

30  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Here we go again. If Trump has to replace Pence as VP, who does he pick? on: January 12, 2017, 04:24:44 pm
Nicking Haley I think. She's acceptable to the establishment and those less inclined to support Trump. She's also a minority and a woman. Haley I think is being groomed as a  potential successor in the future,  her UN Ambassadorship gives her foreign policy experience and could be  a stepping stone for Secretary of State in Trump's second term. She is qualified, covers up weaknesses for Trump, and unusual easily confirmable. Not sure but it is something to think about.

Thank you for your very well thought out very well presented statement.

I believe that Haley is one of the ones to watch as a future leader in the Republican Party.
31  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Here we go again. If Trump has to replace Pence as VP, who does he pick? on: January 12, 2017, 11:24:01 am
Well, almost 63,000,000 people ended up supporting Donald Trump.

Hillary Clinton is not exactly a well spring of virtue and moral rectitude.

And quite honestly, I am not in the least concerned with what  your personal opinion of me may be.
32  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: When Prince Charles becomes King, what name do you think he will use? on: January 12, 2017, 01:56:50 am
Why are we assuming Queen Elizabeth won't outlive him and continue reigning for another 20 or so years? :p

Well, you are correct, nothing is assured in life, however, at age 90, this is what would be referred to as a "reasonable" assumption.
33  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Does Trump's rise prove the tea party was about race? on: January 12, 2017, 01:45:17 am
No
34  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Here we go again. If Trump has to replace Pence as VP, who does he pick? on: January 12, 2017, 01:32:27 am
First of all, I will avoid attacking you with personal insults, even though you have attacked me with personal insults on several occasions.  But whatever.

I do believe, however, that with the shock to your system of Trump being unexpectedly elected President, that your judgment and objectivism have become, shall I say, not up to your usual impeccable standards.

And let me say that I am absolutely flattered that you think enough of the credibility and veracity of my posting history that you would take all that time and all that effort to go back and investigate my input.  And let me assure you, in case you are worried, yes, all my posts are still there.

During the course of the campaign, as you must know due to your diligence in bringing up and reading my posting history, you will be aware that I have been very critical of Hillary, very critical of Trump, very critical of Hillary.

The truth is, later in the campaign, I, like millions of Republicans, "came home".  In spite of all his many faults, Trump is still preferable to Hillary.  And the voters, in the states that swung this election to Trump, agreed with me.

And this thread is for discussing who Trump should appoint as Vice President should Pence resign, not about my mental state as perceived by yourself.

May I suggest, if you wish to continue your current line of attack, that you start your own thread, call it "Winfield Is Crazy" or whatever you like, and vent there.

Thank you, and all the best to you in your future endeavors.
35  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Streep tirade shows Hollywood Elite hypocrisy on: January 11, 2017, 09:49:00 pm
Actress Meryl Streep's anti-Trump tirade at the Golden Globes reveals the true hypocrisy of the Hollywood elite, and just how far removed they are from the actual plight of the handicapped and the struggles of the working classes.

Hollywood is willing to touch on the issue of disability without actually inviting any members of the community to partake in the conversation, according to New York Times best-selling author and disability activist Kody Keplinger.

“I couldn’t help rolling my eyes,” Keplinger told The Huffington Post. She’s a co-founder of Disability in KidLit, an online resource regarding the depiction of disability in children’s and young adult literature. “The applause in the room felt almost self-congratulatory.”


http://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertainment/movies/meryl-streeps-golden-globes-speech-belied-an-inconvenient-truth-about-hollywood/ar-BBy9WxG?li=AAggFp5

36  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Was Ohio stolen in 2004? on: January 11, 2017, 09:14:44 pm
Yes.....

Almost.....

By Kerry.....

37  General Discussion / History / Re: Has there ever been a president that was a mayor at one point? on: January 11, 2017, 08:10:13 pm
I think Andrew Johnson was a mayor in NC.

I am not familiar with this.

Can you expand with city and dates?
38  General Discussion / History / Re: Has there ever been a president that was a mayor at one point? on: January 10, 2017, 11:34:18 pm
Vice President Hubert Humphrey was Mayor of Minneapolis MN 1945-1948
39  General Discussion / History / Re: Has there ever been a president that was a mayor at one point? on: January 10, 2017, 11:31:12 pm
President Andrew Johnson was Mayor of Greenville TN 1830-1833

40  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Here we go again. If Trump has to replace Pence as VP, who does he pick? on: January 10, 2017, 10:29:59 pm
This is an unlikely situation but I'll play along. I think he'd avoid someone who would be seen as a "Washington insider," so I'd expect a governor or perhaps a youngish/recently elected Senator who shares some of his more hardline views. My shortlist and one wildcard pick:

Scott Walker
Tom Cotton
Matt Bevin
Rick Scott
Joni Ernst
Mary Fallin
Joe Manchin

Manchin is my wildcard pick because his ideological profile isn't terribly different from Trump's, it would open up an additional seat for Senate Republicans, and Manchin could avoid a tough campaign in a state that went over 70% red in 2016. The caveat here being that he would need to change parties. The rest of the picks would maintain his outsider credentials and wouldn't face too difficult a confirmation process.


Thank you for making a serious contribution to this discussion.

Some interesting, and some credible names here, some more so than others.
41  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Here we go again. If Trump has to replace Pence as VP, who does he pick? on: January 10, 2017, 10:11:55 pm
Ivanka will be living in DC, so them both being residents of NY State wouldn't hurt him in 2020. I could see him doing it. And yes, we're talking about Trump, this is a serious answer.

Also, I think Trump might designate Ivanka as First Lady. There have been other cases in the past where the First Lady was actually the niece or daughter of the President.

Can a male be First Lady?  Why the hell do we need this office anyway?  What a waste of my money.

A male would be First Gentleman.

I have read that Michelle Obama's budget as First Lady is about 1.6 million dollars/year.

The First Lady receives no government pay herself.
42  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Here we go again. If Trump has to replace Pence as VP, who does he pick? on: January 10, 2017, 10:08:57 pm
His shortlist was Pence, Christie and Gingrich. It would be larger now he is President and not seen as a likely election loser. Haley works. Christie no after Bridge gate,  Gingrich maybe but I doubt he could be confirmed. Sessions was a possibility then and could be now. Maybe Bob Corker. One possibility to consider was that in late October Pence's plane skidded on the runway, but no one was injured. What if the plane was destroyed and Pence died? Who would be the late VP selection?

Thank you for making a serious contribution to this discussion.

Ok, I appreciate that. Now any thoughts on my contribution?

Yes.

Your knowledge of the situation and your insight are remarkable.

I totally agree with you that there is no way Christie could be confirmed, and Gingrich, I believe, has gone off the rails.  So he would be out as well.

Haley would be interesting, although, personally, I doubt Trump would pick her for the VP job.  Sessions may too controversial, Corker would be a good choice.

You know, I do remember the Pence plane skidding on the runway, but I never gave any thought at the time that if he died, Heaven forbid, as to who would then become the VP candidate.

The dynamics and criteria in that situation would of course be different from a situation where Pence resigns from office during the first Trump term.

In the plane crash situation, I rather believe that Trump would have again gone to someone with solid DC experience as a legislator who could move the Trump agenda through Congress.

So thank you for sharing your thoughts on this hypothetical situation.
43  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Here we go again. If Trump has to replace Pence as VP, who does he pick? on: January 10, 2017, 09:40:53 pm
Pam Bondi.

Thank you for making a serious contribution to this discussion.

An interesting pick, but I believe far too inexperienced to be considered for the job.

I would not be surprised, however, to see her become Governor of Florida or U.S. Senator from Florida some day.
44  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Here we go again. If Trump has to replace Pence as VP, who does he pick? on: January 10, 2017, 09:32:36 pm
You have proven nothing.

All you have done is put your interpretation to my statements.

Show me where I ever stated in this thread that Paul Ryan is of "clearly inferior capabilities".  You can't.

You yourself are the one who has stated about Trump and Ryan "Why would he pick somebody who could be seen as his credible replacement "

By you making this statement, you yourself are agreeing with me that Ryan is credible.

Show me where I ever stated in this thread that I "despise President Trump".  You can't.

These are your words, not mine.

And by the way, when Trump is sworn into office on January 20, he will be the President of the United States, all the United States, and not the President representing my party.

As for my statements, what is relevant are my statements in this thread, not something I may have said months ago.  

I said that Ryan is credible: sure, he is. I also said that this is the reason why he cannot be nominated: being of "clearly inferior capability" is a necessary condition for such an appointment (unless it comes from the family). You told me, I gave the great reason why Ryan should be appointed. Well, the main qualification for the appointment I gave was being incapable of doing the job. In every normal understanding of your response I can think of this means we disagree on this very fact: I think Ryan could make a credible president, and that is why he cannot be appointed, while you believe that he is, indeed, of inferior capability and, thus, may be nominated.

Perhaps, you meant something else and just had a problem expressing yourself (ever since you have become a Trumpista you are getting to be increasingly incoherent: clear sign of a continuous rape of your own thought process you are forced to be doing), but this is what you said.

I am amused to observe the emphatic repudiation of everything you have said in the past. I hope, the Minitrue of the new administration will take that into consideration. Are you that scared?

You have always despised Donald Trump. I guess, adding the word "President" changes that for you. It changes nothing about the man, though. Oh, yeah, Trump will be the president of the USA. Fortunately, I am not an American.

For me, Paul Ryan is clearly one of the most credible, articulate, and intelligent people in public life today.

I see you are still running away from my challenge, because you know your accusations are baseless.  I have challenged you twice now, and twice you have evaded the issue at hand, and thrown personal insults at me.  But whatever.
45  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Here we go again. If Trump has to replace Pence as VP, who does he pick? on: January 10, 2017, 02:07:54 am
His shortlist was Pence, Christie and Gingrich. It would be larger now he is President and not seen as a likely election loser. Haley works. Christie no after Bridge gate,  Gingrich maybe but I doubt he could be confirmed. Sessions was a possibility then and could be now. Maybe Bob Corker. One possibility to consider was that in late October Pence's plane skidded on the runway, but no one was injured. What if the plane was destroyed and Pence died? Who would be the late VP selection?

Thank you for making a serious contribution to this discussion.
46  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Here we go again. If Trump has to replace Pence as VP, who does he pick? on: January 10, 2017, 01:43:36 am
You have proven nothing.

All you have done is put your interpretation to my statements.

Show me where I ever stated in this thread that Paul Ryan is of "clearly inferior capabilities".  You can't.

You yourself are the one who has stated about Trump and Ryan "Why would he pick somebody who could be seen as his credible replacement "

By you making this statement, you yourself are agreeing with me that Ryan is credible.

Show me where I ever stated in this thread that I "despise President Trump".  You can't.

These are your words, not mine.

And by the way, when Trump is sworn into office on January 20, he will be the President of the United States, all the United States, and not the President representing my party.

As for my statements, what is relevant are my statements in this thread, not something I may have said months ago.  
47  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Here we go again. If Trump has to replace Pence as VP, who does he pick? on: January 10, 2017, 12:09:46 am
Well, good question, although I don’t see Pence resigning in the next four years. He published his tax returns and has no business interests. I disagree with him on virtually all issues, but I don’t think he’s corrupt. The only possible reason to step down would be his health.

I have a feeling the Trumpster would try to get an unconventional choice through. Either a businessman or a general. Maybe Mattis, Kelly or Flynn. Even Tillerson could be an option (he wouldn’t try with Petraeus, because wouldn’t get through). If it’s a politician: Rick or Tim Scott, Scott Brown or Jeff Sessions. But my gut feeling tells me he would try an unconventional candidate. He wanted this already back in summer but he (or his kids) chose Pence to appease the party establishment. Now that he won, he is in a stronger position within the party and congress.



Thank  you for making a serious contribution to this discussion.
48  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Here we go again. If Trump has to replace Pence as VP, who does he pick? on: January 10, 2017, 12:07:12 am
Nikki Haley, Scott Brown, James Mattis, Jim Webb, Jan Brewer, and Jon Huntsman would likely get the shortlist.

Thank you for making a serious contribution to this discussion.
49  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Here we go again. If Trump has to replace Pence as VP, who does he pick? on: January 10, 2017, 12:05:10 am
It depends on who in Trump's administration has done well up to that point, who was confirmed with a large number of votes etc.  My guess is an army guy.  It could be Mattis or Kelly.

Thank you for making  serious contribution to this discussion.
50  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Here we go again. If Trump has to replace Pence as VP, who does he pick? on: January 10, 2017, 12:03:56 am
Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III

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