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26  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Hmmm..... on: January 18, 2015, 09:04:59 pm
Viva Winfield, down with immorality!

Indeed, my friend, that's why there was a self serving recall organized to get me out of the Assembly. 
27  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Hmmm..... on: January 18, 2015, 09:01:05 pm
Oh Winfield, you and your conspiracy theories.

I know eh!

But isn't Elvis still alive and working for the DEA?

Hmmm.....
28  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Northeast Representative Winfield on: January 18, 2015, 08:46:22 pm
Thank you my friend.

Truly a farse of a recall.

You shouldn't have resigned.  If you played your cards right, you could have won the recall.

Thank you my friend.

Well, the Laborites and leftist cabal were conspiring against me and against any views that threatened to overturn their extreme leftist agenda.  And there are lot of leftists in the Northeast.

I may make a return someday!
29  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Northeast Representative Winfield on: January 18, 2015, 08:40:46 pm
I'm so sorry to hear this, friend. You're one of Atlasia's greatest Freedom Fighters.

Well thank you so much.

I may be back someday!
30  General Discussion / History / Nixon meets Johnson on: January 18, 2015, 08:27:54 pm
What do you suppose Nixon and Johnson are discussing in this picture?

Picture dates from July, 1968.

31  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Hmmm..... on: January 18, 2015, 08:21:02 pm
Indeed.

But the optics.

Just sayin'.
32  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Hmmm..... on: January 18, 2015, 08:05:49 pm
Hmmm.....

Let me see.....

Griffin launches a recall petition against me.....

I resign.....

Sawx appoints Griffin to the Northeast Assembly.....

Hmmm.....
33  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Northeast Representative Winfield on: January 18, 2015, 07:56:36 pm
Thank you my friend.

Truly a farse of a recall.
34  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Watch: Romney outlines agenda - including fixing poverty? on: January 18, 2015, 07:38:48 pm
Yes if he ran as a populist he would totally be president now.

No worries about things he said like...
"Corporations are people"
"I like being able to fire people"
"I'm not concerned about the very poor"
"there are 47 percent who....are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims...so my job is not to worry about those people—I'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives"

Those certainly would not have suddenly become even more hypocritical and make his populist campaign completely ludicrous


If Romney had been running a populist campaign he would not have made the above statements.
35  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: 2052 Map Prediction on: January 18, 2015, 05:30:09 pm


The once mighty Republican and Democratic parties are pushed back dramatically so they are reduced to only their rock solid bastions of support, and only vestiges of their former greatness and dominance remain.
36  General Discussion / History / Eisenhower and Homer on: January 18, 2015, 05:09:37 pm
Does Ike look like Homer Simpson here?

37  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Watch: Romney outlines agenda - including fixing poverty? on: January 18, 2015, 04:57:04 pm
Mitt should have taken a populist stance in 2012.  He may have won.
38  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Biggest possible electoral college shift on: January 18, 2015, 04:53:07 pm


Republican     281
Democratic    257

Republicans have done a very good job while in control of the Senate and the House.
Voters believe it is time for a new administration after two terms of a Democrat in the Presidency.
39  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Northeast Voting Booth: Reintroducing the Efficient Referenda Amendment on: January 18, 2015, 04:21:59 pm
Nay
40  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does Romney even have a chance this time? on: January 17, 2015, 12:09:00 pm
I think Romney has a better chance than Bush at this point.
Bush's tenure as Republican frontrunner was very brief.

I do wonder how much of the backlash against Romney is the result of Bush's friends. It was interesting to see a discussion on a Sunday Morning show where the two Republicans were both jeb backers. Having a lot of connections helps getting a message out.

I wouldn't call Newt Gingrich, the guy who cheated on multiple wives and was literally forced out by the GOP and Rick Santorum, the guy who lost by 33 points and Herman Cain, a philandering pizza guy "B list candidates". I wouldn't even call them "C list candidates". I wouldn't even call them "D list candidates". MAYBE E list.

Yeah, a guy who served ONE term as governor of a deep blue state and lost to Ted Kennedy by double-digits in a great Republican year was a real A-lister. Why anyone thought Romney was a good candidate is beyond me...really, the only thing he had going for him was no skeletons in his closet and didn't make gaffes (except for the 47% remark, but that was pretty minor compared to the stuff the others have said). Seriously, the if the GOP had wanted a moderate, they should've at least gone with Huntsman, who wouldn't have lost his home state.
What does it matter how a candidate does in their home state?

Romney won the home states of Perry, Gingrich and Huntsman.

Considering a Republican presidential nominee hadn't lost their home state since 1944 and even then it was only to someone else from that state, it was rather embarrassing that Romney not only lost his, but lost it by a huge margin. It's not the only thing I had against him (and yes, I did still vote for him in the general, albeit very reluctantly), but it's a good metaphor for his candidacy. I would've had a lot more respect for Romney if he at least had served a second term as governor of MA.

Just an observation:

I realize Nixon's birth state, home state, is California, however, in 1963, the Nixon family relocated to New York City, where Nixon became a senior partner in the leading law firm Nixon, Mudge, Rose, Guthrie & Alexander.

So Nixon's home state for the 1968 election would be New York, which he lost to Hubert Humphrey in the election.

I realize Romney lost his "home" state of Massachusetts in 2012, but one could hardly expect a Republican to have won one of the most liberal and one of the most Democratic states in the nation in a Presidential election under the circumstances of the 2012 election.
41  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does Romney even have a chance this time? on: January 17, 2015, 11:19:16 am
As you may or may not know, I have been one of this forum's biggest Romney supporters in 2008 and again in 2012.

But if I were a Romney advisor, I would strongly urge him not to run in 2016.

2012, I believe, was winnable for him, given the circumstances at that time.  And I genuinely believe that, had he won, Romney would have made a very good, solid, capable President.

But his 2012 campaign was gaffe prone and handled very badly, by him, and by his team.

If Romney stands any chance at all in 2016, it is a very small chance indeed.  It would be based on an almost flawless campaign, and I do not see that happening.  

Final analysis, no, I do not see a scenario leading to a Romney victory in 2016, unfortunately for the nation as far as I'm concerned, but a Romney win in 2016 is simply not going to happen.
42  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: X on: January 16, 2015, 04:24:55 pm
Sass sass sass, shut up already, you child-loving chubby charlatan.


Lowly Griff, this is really unbecoming of you to make this accusation, especially when I challenged you months ago to present proof of anything I had ever said to warrant this type of treatment from you and your cohorts, and you had no proof, because it was something you made up.  You did not accept the challenge.
43  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Swearing in of New Officeholders on: January 16, 2015, 09:51:49 am
I resign from the Northeast Assembly
44  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Northeast Voting Booth: Recall of Representative Winfield on: January 16, 2015, 09:50:42 am
No need for further votes
45  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Northeast Voting Booth: Recall of Representative Winfield on: January 16, 2015, 09:50:13 am
No
46  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Petition to Recall Representative Winfield on: January 15, 2015, 10:11:16 pm
I support Brother Winfield in his quest to remain in office. We all must lock arms in front of the school house and not allow this travesty to occur. The sassier a legislator, the better in my book.

Thank you my dear Brother Duke.

Indeed, these are times that try men's souls, but know this, be ye friend or be ye detractor, and I believe we are all friends, we just see things differently, but no matter how high the peaks to which I must ascend, no matter how low the valleys to which I must descend and struggle my way up from again, no matter how hot the sun that blisters my face, no matter how cold the north wind that lashes against my body with every step I take, no matter how deep the snow through which I must trod, no matter how hard the rain that drenches me with every powerful drop, know this, that my service has always been, and will always be, for The People.

For The People, my friends, for The People who have no voice, for The People who have nobody to speak for them, for The People who are crying out from the depths of despair, help me, oh help me, for The People who need their views to be heard.

I have heard their cries and I have heard their pleas as I have been sleeping in the evening.  I have heard their cries and I have heard their pleas as I have been walking down the sidewalk on a cool, crisp morning, crying out to me from the mists, help us, oh please help us.

To The People, you can be certain that I have heard you, you can be certain that you are always in my thoughts, and you can be certain that you will always have a voice in me.

No matter what the future may hold, no matter what the paths which I may follow, be certain, my dear friends, The People, that you can always turn to me, and I will never turn you away.        

47  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will Hillary Clinton be a better candidate for President than Obama in 2012? on: January 15, 2015, 05:32:01 pm
Well, I must say that I am utterly flattered that you think that much of my years old postings that you would go to all that work to retrieve them from the archives.

And something you must take into account as well, we were in an election campaign mode at the time, and election rhetoric tends to become exaggerated, not only on forums, but in real life by real politicians as well.

And perhaps my views of some of Obama's performance has improved over time.

However, you left out the post where I said, and I am paraphrasing, that Obama's oratory sometimes brings tears to my eyes, he is that good.
 
48  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Priebus: Bill Clinton's personal life is "fair game" on: January 15, 2015, 05:06:52 pm
If you guys can dig into Romney's personal life, then so can the GOP

How did the Democrats dig into Ann Romney's personal life?

Just ask Dirty Liar Harry Reid when he made a fool of himself publicly by lying about the Romney's tax returns.

And the Romney income would be the income of both Mitt and Ann.
49  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Priebus: Bill Clinton's personal life is "fair game" on: January 15, 2015, 04:52:01 pm
Good. That means Reince Priebus' personal life is fair game, too.

Priebus isn't running for President, so nobody cares about his personal life.
50  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will Hillary Clinton be a better candidate for President than Obama in 2012? on: January 15, 2015, 04:38:15 pm
Dynamism, exuberance, a gifted orator, able to move a crowd, Obama is by far ahead of Clinton.

As well, in 2008, Obama was new, young, and offered a fresh hope and start for the nation.  And not having so much baggage from the past, he was able to make people believe his message of a new start.

By contrast, in 2016, Clinton is 69 years old, is not a particularly good orator, has been on the national stage by then for 24 years, not especially a good thing.   
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