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26  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: To my fellow Democrats/liberals: Stop saying Republican voters are stupid. on: March 09, 2017, 11:27:41 pm
Republicans won because we treat people with respect, unlike the Democrats who call others deplorables, and because we recognize the struggles of Americans, unlike the Democrats, who ignored large sectors of the American people, e.g. people in the rust belt, who Hillary virtually ignored.   
27  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: To my fellow Democrats/liberals: Stop saying Republican voters are stupid. on: March 09, 2017, 08:36:09 pm
the fact that the Republicans are clearly being lied to and they don't care. Therefore, they are either deplorable or stupid. Perhaps it is bad strategy to say it out loud, but it remains true.

And this, my friends, is the reason as to why the Democrats are more and more becoming a party of the upper to border Atlantic states, and of the west coast, with a smattering of support in the Midwest.

It is an attitude such as this that leads to complacency, arrogance, and decline.

You know, if you tune into right wing media...their always insulting urbanites in big cities. Michael Savage loves to slam San Francisco making it sound like people are having groupsex in the streets, and Fox news loves to go around NYC and insult people and make them look stupid...especially any protesters that look like how rural Conservatives imagine NYCers to look.

Get off your high horse.

And it is precisely this Democrat attitude as to why Trump won and Clinton lost.

Get off your merry-go- round.
28  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: To my fellow Democrats/liberals: Stop saying Republican voters are stupid. on: March 09, 2017, 07:29:57 pm
the fact that the Republicans are clearly being lied to and they don't care. Therefore, they are either deplorable or stupid. Perhaps it is bad strategy to say it out loud, but it remains true.

And this, my friends, is the reason as to why the Democrats are more and more becoming a party of the upper to border Atlantic states, and of the west coast, with a smattering of support in the Midwest.

It is an attitude such as this that leads to complacency, arrogance, and decline.
29  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Should Imperial Dominion of the South (IDS) be the new Name for the South? on: March 06, 2017, 09:37:43 pm
Imperial Dominion of the South

Sounds like a slave state

Especially the Imperial Dominion part
30  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Join the Hoover Society on: March 06, 2017, 08:48:20 pm
Join the Hoover Society.

For when you long for the good life.






31  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Should Imperial Dominion of the South (IDS) be the new Name for the South? on: March 06, 2017, 06:43:31 pm
Since this discussion has officially entered into the "Really Stupid" category, and since I am the one responsible for opening this can of worms, perhaps the South could adopt the following name:

The Most Illustrious Serene Realm Of The Utopian Ideal
32  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Should Imperial Dominion of the South (IDS) be the new Name for the South? on: March 05, 2017, 03:53:36 pm
You aren't a Southerner. Get out.

Oh my.

Is this any way to treat a fellow citizen of Atlasia?

We are all, are we not, fellow citizens of the same nation?

I do not believe that it is in the national interest for one of our regions to adopt the trappings of an archaic, elitist, imperialistic regime.
33  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Should Imperial Dominion of the South (IDS) be the new Name for the South? on: March 05, 2017, 03:35:35 pm
In response to the ridiculous poll from DFW on March 2, 2017
34  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If Hillary Clinton picked Elizabeth Warren for VP on: March 05, 2017, 02:22:49 pm
Having Elizabeth Warren on the ticket would have the effect, I believe, of driving up Republican,  conservative, and white male turnout, thereby still electing Trump.
35  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: If you were a male, adult passenger on the Titanic.......... on: March 04, 2017, 11:12:59 am
Winfield, why do you have to end your threads with "..........."? To make an additional point or something?

For emphasis.
36  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / If you were a male, adult passenger on the Titanic.......... on: March 03, 2017, 03:08:20 pm
If you were a male, adult passenger on the Titanic in 1912 during the sinking, would you disguise yourself as a woman to get into a life boat?

Or would you take your chances and dive into the water?

Or would you simply go down with the ship?

Please discuss.
37  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Question about the South Region and regional names on: March 02, 2017, 10:01:50 pm
Personally, I would like a return to the IDS

So dfw is advocating a return to the days when Atlasia was literally falling apart.
38  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Question about the South Region and regional names on: March 01, 2017, 04:48:34 pm
Personally, I would like a return to the IDS

Jefferson it is. 
39  General Discussion / History / Re: Which of these was the worst mistake made by a U.S. President? on: March 01, 2017, 03:57:56 pm
What, no mention of Buchanan's letting the Union break apart in his final months in the White House?

I realize that the Civil War resulted in the tragic deaths of many thousands, an estimated 620,000.

But one could argue that the breakup of the union resulted in the abolishment of slavery.

The abolishment of slavery was one of the greatest and most momentous developments in the history of the United States, in fact, in the history of the entire world.

I might add that all the mistakes and scandals I have listed are from the twentieth century.
40  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Question about the South Region and regional names on: March 01, 2017, 01:36:48 pm
We've settled on Jefferson in the Constitutional Taskforce, but we haven't done much else on the matter.

Thank you for the update.

Just as an aside, Thomas Jefferson was, of course, a major slave holder.

I spoke on this issue as a delegate to the Constitutional Convention.

That is why I suggested the name of Rayburn, the legendary Speaker of the House from Texas.

But just my view.  It is up to the members of the South what they name the region, not up to me.
41  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Question about the South Region and regional names on: March 01, 2017, 01:13:29 pm
We have the West Region now called Fremont.

We have the North Region now called Lincoln.

Is the South Region considering adopting a new name? 

Anyone know?

I recall from the Constitutional Convention the names of Jefferson and Rayburn were put forward.

42  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 63% of African Americans feel taken for granted by the democratic party on: March 01, 2017, 12:25:16 am
Well, I was actually referring to the Vice Presidency.

They've had since the 1800's to do it.

And what about your party? I don't recall Republicans ever having a serious Black VP contender.

This is true, I will admit, however, if Republicans nominated an African American candidate for Vice President, Democrats would scream tokenism, and African Americans would cry "Uncle Tom."

I myself would be delighted to see the Republicans nominate an African American for Vice President, even President, if they were qualified, someone along the lines of Colin Powell, for example.

1996, despite not standing in the race, Colin Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.

This does show the Republican Party is open to an African American Vice Presidential candidate.  I am not aware of Democrats voting for an African American candidate in the New Hampshire Vice Presidential primary.

I am not aware of Democrats HAVING a New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hampshire_primary

Vice-Presidential results

A Vice-Presidential preference primary was also formerly held at the New Hampshire primary. New Hampshire State Senator Jack Barnes, who won the 2008 Republican contest, co-sponsored a bill in 2009 which would eliminate the Vice Presidential preference ballot. The bill passed both houses of the state legislature and took effect in 2012.

The only time a non-incumbent won the Vice Presidential primary and then went on to be formally nominated by his or her party was in 2004, when Democratic U.S. Senator John Edwards won as a write-in candidate. Edwards, who was running for President at the time, did not actively solicit Vice Presidential votes.

In 1968, the sitting Vice President Hubert Humphrey won the Democratic Vice Presidential primary, and then later won the Presidential nomination after the sitting President Lyndon B. Johnson dropped out of the race.

you're utterly insane. So according to you having nominated and elected the first african american president isn't good enough because a black person has never won a meaningless contest that no one votes in or has even heard about?

Your childish personal attack aside, you can rationalize all you like, the fact remains the Republicans voted for an African American in this primary, the Democrats did not.

The Democrats, who have for generations had the support of 90% of the black vote, did not see fit to nominate a black candidate for the Vice Presidency, not even from 1972 to 2004.

Obviously, the Democrats have long taken the black vote for granted.
43  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 63% of African Americans feel taken for granted by the democratic party on: February 28, 2017, 05:37:10 pm
Well, I was actually referring to the Vice Presidency.

They've had since the 1800's to do it.

And what about your party? I don't recall Republicans ever having a serious Black VP contender.

This is true, I will admit, however, if Republicans nominated an African American candidate for Vice President, Democrats would scream tokenism, and African Americans would cry "Uncle Tom."

I myself would be delighted to see the Republicans nominate an African American for Vice President, even President, if they were qualified, someone along the lines of Colin Powell, for example.

1996, despite not standing in the race, Colin Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.

This does show the Republican Party is open to an African American Vice Presidential candidate.  I am not aware of Democrats voting for an African American candidate in the New Hampshire Vice Presidential primary.

I am not aware of Democrats HAVING a New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hampshire_primary

Vice-Presidential results

A Vice-Presidential preference primary was also formerly held at the New Hampshire primary. New Hampshire State Senator Jack Barnes, who won the 2008 Republican contest, co-sponsored a bill in 2009 which would eliminate the Vice Presidential preference ballot. The bill passed both houses of the state legislature and took effect in 2012.

The only time a non-incumbent won the Vice Presidential primary and then went on to be formally nominated by his or her party was in 2004, when Democratic U.S. Senator John Edwards won as a write-in candidate. Edwards, who was running for President at the time, did not actively solicit Vice Presidential votes.

In 1968, the sitting Vice President Hubert Humphrey won the Democratic Vice Presidential primary, and then later won the Presidential nomination after the sitting President Lyndon B. Johnson dropped out of the race.
44  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 63% of African Americans feel taken for granted by the democratic party on: February 28, 2017, 04:25:51 pm
Well, I was actually referring to the Vice Presidency.

They've had since the 1800's to do it.

And what about your party? I don't recall Republicans ever having a serious Black VP contender.

This is true, I will admit, however, if Republicans nominated an African American candidate for Vice President, Democrats would scream tokenism, and African Americans would cry "Uncle Tom."

I myself would be delighted to see the Republicans nominate an African American for Vice President, even President, if they were qualified, someone along the lines of Colin Powell, for example.

1996, despite not standing in the race, Colin Powell won the Republican New Hampshire Vice-Presidential primary on write-in votes.

This does show the Republican Party is open to an African American Vice Presidential candidate.  I am not aware of Democrats voting for an African American candidate in the New Hampshire Vice Presidential primary.
45  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 63% of African Americans feel taken for granted by the democratic party on: February 28, 2017, 03:49:05 pm
I have been saying for years and years that the Democratic Party has taken the African American vote for granted for generations.

Let me ask the powers that be in the Democratic Party

In spite of the fact that African Americans have been your most loyal constituency for generations, not once have you seen fit that an African American should be on the Presidential ticket.

Why?

Winfield, my friend, you've lost me here.

Confusing I know, yes, that is my fault, but I was actually thinking of the Vice Presidency not given to an African American by the Democratic Party over all these decades, even just starting from the 1970's let's say.  Then you have the 1980's, 1990's, 2000 election, 2004 election.

That's nine elections.

You would think somewhere along the line after generations of African American extremely loyal support they would have been able to give the Vice Presidential nomination to an African American somewhere along the line.

I apologize to the forum for not making myself clear in the first place.

46  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 63% of African Americans feel taken for granted by the democratic party on: February 28, 2017, 03:10:24 pm
Well, I was actually referring to the Vice Presidency.

They've had since the 1800's to do it.
47  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 63% of African Americans feel taken for granted by the democratic party on: February 28, 2017, 02:58:48 pm
I have been saying for years and years that the Democratic Party has taken the African American vote for granted for generations.

Let me ask the powers that be in the Democratic Party

In spite of the fact that African Americans have been your most loyal constituency for generations, not once have you seen fit that an African American should be on the Presidential ticket.

Why?
I can't tell if this is trolling or legit stupidity

I can only conclude from your holier than thou remarks that you believe it is "stupidity", your word, for the Democrats to put an African American on the Presidential ticket.
48  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 63% of African Americans feel taken for granted by the democratic party on: February 28, 2017, 02:46:06 pm
I have been saying for years and years that the Democratic Party has taken the African American vote for granted for generations.

Let me ask the powers that be in the Democratic Party

In spite of the fact that African Americans have been your most loyal constituency for generations, not once have you seen fit that an African American should be on the Presidential ticket.

Why?
49  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What will be the status of weed in four years? on: February 28, 2017, 02:34:12 pm
Pro pot proponents are likely to be dealing with a very conservative U.S. Supreme Court who may choose to stymie the encroachment of this pernicious weed into the very fabric of our already morally bankrupt society. 
50  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What will be the status of weed in four years? on: February 27, 2017, 05:02:07 pm
With any luck, we will end up with far fewer brain dead pot heads endangering society.

LOL. You don't know much about pot do you?  Or do you think that I am "brain dead?"  Smiley

I know nothing about your personal life, but I am sure you are a very nice person.

However, we all know that there are conflicting reports as to the effects of marijuana use.


That's moving in the right direction - a more measured statement. Very good progress there. Smiley

I tend to believe the reports that confirm the harmful effects of marijuana use.  Smiley
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