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26  General Discussion / History / Re: Most Boring Part of U.S. History on: July 27, 2017, 10:32:48 pm
Actually, I think the Gilded Age was an interesting time.

I quite enjoyed reading about the Vanderbilts and the Astors, and the other robber barons of that era.



27  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / So when does Tillerson head back to the board room? on: July 27, 2017, 10:20:37 pm
This White House is in complete chaos, so there may as well be some more drama to add to the mix.

I am sure that Tillerson by now is wishing his boss had picked Mitt, a professional politician, to head the Department of State.

So when does Tillerson exit the diplomatic circuit and head back to the board room?

Please discuss.

28  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Is Donald Trump trying to dismantle Barack Obama's legacy? on: July 27, 2017, 05:50:51 pm
Clearly.
29  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bannon pushing for 44% marginal tax rate on the very rich on: July 27, 2017, 05:49:41 pm
I would set the rate at 50%, for a start.
30  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Scaramucci vs Priebus on: July 27, 2017, 05:46:02 pm
If Trump turns on Priebus, I might get off the train.

Oh, so after all the monsters things Trump has said and done, a change in administrative Staffing. THAT'S what will get you to finally abandoned supporting Trump? Roll Eyes
Wait a minute. Don't feed the troll, Badger. Don't feed the troll, Badger don't feed the troll.....

Loyalty is the trait I value above all. (true loyalty, not nepotism or familial loyalty) I am no fan of the GOP establishment, but Reince has earned my respect for standing up for Trump and Bannon when they were most beleaguered. Sessions, Bannon, and Reince are untouchable as far as I'm concerned.

But Priebus hasn't been loyal to Trump?

"On behalf the entire senior staff around you, Mr. President, we thank you for the opportunity and the blessing you've given us to serve your agenda and the American people."
The last time someone sucked so much dick in the Oval Office, it got the President impeached.

The last time a President's staff were so publicly loyal, it ended with the President resigning for their actions. Priebus, McMasters are the deep State dancers on the administration. It's Bannon who we trust.

Reading the comments from you two talking about trump's inner circle of idiots, is like reading the history books regarding Adolf Hitler and his inner circle of evil like Hermann Göring, Heinrich Himmler, Joseph Goebbels and the like.

So when do Trump, Kushner, Bannon, Priebus, Scaramucci head for the bunker?
31  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Scaramucci vs Priebus on: July 27, 2017, 10:53:11 am
Anthony Scaramucci, White House Director of Communications, has referred to his relationship with White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, as like that of Cain and Abel.

As you know, this didn't go well for Abel.

Anyway, is Scaramucci out to replace Priebus as White House Chief of Staff?

If so, will he succeed?

Please discuss.

32  General Discussion / History / Re: Most Boring Part of U.S. History on: July 26, 2017, 09:55:38 pm
I believe all phases of U.S. history have their exciting and interesting parts as well as their boring and not so interesting parts.
33  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Does Jeff Sessions resign as Attorney General? on: July 24, 2017, 06:07:26 pm
Does Jeff Sessions resign as Attorney General?

Please vote and discuss.
34  General Discussion / Alternative History / If not Truman, who do the Democrats pick for VP in 1944? on: July 24, 2017, 01:22:11 pm
In 1944, Vice President Henry Wallace was dropped from the Democratic Party ticket.

Missouri Senator Harry Truman was picked as the Vice Presidential candidate.

If not Truman, who else would have  been a suitable Democratic Vice Presidential nominee in 1944? 

Please discuss.
35  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Franklin D Roosevelt children in his administration on: July 17, 2017, 02:31:31 pm
Figures Trump would copy an awful president like FDR.

But in practically all rankings of U.S. Presidents, FDR is consistently near the top, usually second place after Lincoln.
36  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Franklin D Roosevelt children in his administration on: July 17, 2017, 02:19:42 pm
My post was merely an observation.

The fact that Ivanka and Jared are serving in these positions, and continue to serve, says something about this "law".

I have heard about this law before, but thank you for bringing it up.

37  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Franklin D Roosevelt children in his administration on: July 17, 2017, 01:58:49 pm
Much has been said about Trump daughter Ivanka Trump being appointed an Assistant to President Trump and son-in-law  Jared Kushner being appointed an Advisor to President Trump.

President Franklin D Roosevelt had four of his children appointed to offices directly related to the White House or otherwise to his administration. I understand, of course, that there are definite differences between their responsibilities and authority compared to the Trump situation, as well I recognize the Trump appointments are controversial  as compared to the FDR appointments, but there have been other Presidents besides Trump who have had direct family involved in their administrations.  

Just sayin'.

Anna Roosevelt, at her ailing father's request, Anna moved into the White House in 1944 to serve as First Lady because of her mother's preference for devoting her time to other political activities and worthy causes. When President Roosevelt traveled to Yalta in 1945 to meet Stalin and Churchill, he selected Anna to accompany him.

James Roosevelt II, a delegate from Massachusetts to the Constitutional Convention for the repeal of Prohibition 1933, officially appointed "Administrative Assistant to the President" 1937, Secretary to the President, became White House coordinator for eighteen federal agencies 1937-1938  

Elliot Roosevelt, assigned by President Roosevelt to attend Atlantic Conference between Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill 1941, attended as a military attache to the Casablanca Conference 1943, the Cairo Conference 1943, the Tehran Conference 1943    
  
Franklin Delano Roosevelt Jr, assigned by President Roosevelt to attend Atlantic Conference between Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill 1941
38  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: A radical new plan for Atlasia - Confederation of Atlasia on: July 12, 2017, 10:29:11 pm
My dear Mr. President, I trust that other suggestions you have to "spice up" Atlasia are an improvement over your Confederacy plan.  The last thing Atlasia needs is another secessionist revolt.

Anyway, I have another suggestion.

Create by executive order a Port of Boston Authority, appointing me as Collector of the Port of Boston.

For some time this existed as a plum patronage appointment, and I would like to see it returned to its former glory, with me receiving the largess of this patronage.

Respectfully yours. 
39  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Leinad for Governor! on: July 08, 2017, 08:27:58 pm
I would be the last one to cast aspersions, goodness knows, but.....

Is it really Leinad, or is it Liedan?

Atlasians have a right to know.

Smiley

You were better at this a year ago. Tongue
I agree. "Give Me An RV Or The Retired Population Of The South Will Be Forced To Read Ayn Rand As They Are Incinerated By My Basement Dinosaurs" makes a lot more sense than Liedan.

Says the person who got smacked in the previous election just like a week or so ago.

What a smack down!
40  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Leinad for Governor! on: July 07, 2017, 11:46:36 pm
Oh, how I long for the days when posters on this forum had at least a modicum of a sense of humor.

But alas, a year ago I had more material to work with.
41  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: A radical new plan for Atlasia - Confederation of Atlasia on: July 06, 2017, 08:24:20 pm

- Atlasia would no longer be a Republic but would rather become a Confederacy of nations.
 

No.

The last Confederacy in the new world was a slave nation, and I want nothing to do with a slave nation.
Really? I thought you would love slavery considering what you thought of my last signature Smiley

Well, let me explain something to you.

In your last signature, the woman you had in the picture was not dressed entirely inappropriately.

As a matter of fact, you ought to be ashamed of yourself for blatantly exploiting that woman and objectifying her.

I do not care whether a woman, or man for that matter, is black, white, Asian, Hispanic, native, they should be dressed appropriately.

Your current signature is an improvement over your last signature.

And if this is all you have to defend your Confederacy idea, I do not hold out much hope for you achieving your goal of turning the nation into another Confederacy.

The last Confederacy died a painful and costly death in the 1860s, so let it lie.

Honestly the only one in this equation who should be ashamed is the person who is trying to dictate what women are allowed to wear.

You can't call someone out for exploiting and objectifying women and then make a statement like that Tongue

My friend, women, and men for that matter, are told what to wear all the time.

For example, school teachers do not show up to school in a pair of short shorts, a tank top, and a pair of sneakers.  They have a dress code to follow, in which the failure to adhere to could result in anything from a reprimand to dismissal.

Employees of a prestigious law firm do not show up for work in a sweat shirt, ripped jeans and sandals.  They as well have a dress code to follow, which requires them to wear appropriate business attire.

Construction workers are told to wear steel toed boots, which if they don't wear means they could not work.

The list of what people can and cannot wear goes on and on.
42  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: A radical new plan for Atlasia - Confederation of Atlasia on: July 06, 2017, 07:42:15 pm

- Atlasia would no longer be a Republic but would rather become a Confederacy of nations.
 

No.

The last Confederacy in the new world was a slave nation, and I want nothing to do with a slave nation.
Really? I thought you would love slavery considering what you thought of my last signature Smiley

Well, let me explain something to you.

In your last signature, the woman you had in the picture was dressed entirely inappropriately.

As a matter of fact, you ought to be ashamed of yourself for blatantly exploiting that woman and objectifying her.

I do not care whether a woman, or man for that matter, is black, white, Asian, Hispanic, native, they should be dressed appropriately.

Your current signature is an improvement over your last signature.

And if this is all you have to defend your Confederacy idea, I do not hold out much hope for you achieving your goal of turning the nation into another Confederacy.

The last Confederacy died a painful and costly death in the 1860s, so let it lie.
43  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: A radical new plan for Atlasia - Confederation of Atlasia on: July 06, 2017, 07:01:42 pm

- Atlasia would no longer be a Republic but would rather become a Confederacy of nations.
 

No.

The last Confederacy in the new world was a slave nation, and I want nothing to do with a slave nation.
44  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Leinad for Governor! on: July 06, 2017, 11:53:49 am
I would be the last one to cast aspersions, goodness knows, but.....

Is it really Leinad, or is it Liedan?

Atlasians have a right to know.

Smiley
45  General Discussion / History / Re: Public Offices held by Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates on: July 05, 2017, 09:52:14 am
70,000 views.

Thank you everyone.
46  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Alternative Elections / Re: 2020 Donald Trump/Mike Pence vs Johnny Depp/Kathy Griffin on: June 26, 2017, 01:55:28 pm


Pres. Donald Trump/V.P. Mike Pence: 427 E. Votes, 53.4%
Mr. Johnny Depp/Mrs. Kathy Griffin: 106 Electoral Votes, 39.9%
Fmr. Gov Gary Johnson/Fmr. Rep. Kerry Bentvolio: 5.6%

Several key democrats refuse to support Depp due to fear of being tied to his "assassination comments" which he called for on the trail, becoming the Democratic version of a much Trump, just a lot more unhinged. The American public are outraged by Depp's continued comments, and Trump goes for the jugular. In response, in July, Kathy Griffin is selected as Depp's running mate. The conventions' keynote speaker is (I forgot the old actress who criticized Trump's name like sorry) and only people such as Jerry Springer, Eric Holder, and Alan Grayson speak at the convention. Gary Johnson decided to run again, although originally opposed, in order to save the country. In some states, Adam Kinzinger, Ben Sasse, and Ron Paul were listed as running mates due to ballot laws and local party problems. Johnson polled high enough to be at the first debate, Johnson and Trump seemed intelligent, while Depp was rambling. Angered, Depp threatened to fight Trump on stage. To which Trump replied: "go for it bud." And Depp lunged towards the president as Gary Johnson and the Secret Service jumped in to defend him. This was the state of U.S politics. Johnson and Trump continued to debate that night, and Johnson and Trump made a mockery out of Depp. No more debates were held. Depp clawed his way back in the last weeks and apologized to Trump for his acts. Gary Johnson made a public statement saying he could no longer campaign due to a injury he had sustained in 2003. When election night come, the map was all Red (or blue in Atlas terms) for Trump. The reason Depp won states was due to Johnson's prescense. Johnson won his home state, (he was originally polling in the lead in CO, AK, WY, MT, NH, ME, VT, OR, and WA) but gave a speech almost favoring Trump... Stopping just short of endorsing him, but urging his supporters to support Trump over Depp). Johnson was promised a role as Secretary of Energy, and a nationwide Marijuana legalization referendum passed in 2022 due to Johnson's efforts. As for Depp and Griffin, they continued making threats against Trump despite "conceding" (violent speech urging violence in the streets but acknowledging Trump won, but little happened). Depp was arrested in 2023. Griffin committed suicide days before Trump's second term ended.

(Damn that was wild)

The conventions' keynote speaker is (I forgot the old actress who criticized Trump's name like sorry)

Meryl Streep
47  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: June 2017 Federal Election on: June 25, 2017, 09:25:56 pm
President/Vice President

1.  Clyde1998/Siren

House of Representatives

1.  Poirot
2.  Pessimistic Antineutrino
3.  North Carolina Yankee
4.  Peebs
5.  CMB222

48  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Lincoln Voting Booth, June 2017 on: June 25, 2017, 09:16:40 pm
Senate

1.  Cinyc
2.  20RP12

Governor

1.  Kingpoleon

Assembly

1.  RGN08
2.  KYC0705

Grammatical Accuracy

Yes

Voting Rights

Yes

49  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Alternative Elections / 2020 Donald Trump/Mike Pence vs Johnny Depp/Kathy Griffin on: June 24, 2017, 09:58:07 pm
2020

Republicans re-nominate President Donald Trump for President and Vice President Mike Pence for Vice President.

Democrats nominate actor Johnny Depp for President and comedian Kathy Griffin for Vice President.

Please discuss.

Use a map if you wish.

(I have moved this from International What-ifs to Election what-ifs where it actually belongs)

50  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Donald Trump, President, Business Mogul on: June 23, 2017, 09:41:22 pm
Neither.

Trump wants to be a celebrity. Both his business and political careers are means to that end.

Trump was a celebrity before he became President, granted, not as big a celebrity as he is now.

 
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