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1  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: What religion are you in your heart and in your head? on: Today at 02:33:36 am
Catholic in my head, Orthodox in my heart. As Pope John Paul II said, the East and West are the two lungs of the Church, and the Church must breathe with both lungs.
2  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: If Sherrod Brown and Joe Manchin shutdown the Government... on: Today at 01:04:02 am
Shutting down the government is never okay.
3  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: The idea of life at conception on: December 10, 2016, 08:30:22 pm
Essentially every other possible answer to the question of "when does life begin?" is in some way intellectually inconsistent with how we regard life post-birth (or takes an abhorrent angle which disregards some aspect of post-birth life).
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Transition Team/Cabinet Thread on: December 10, 2016, 06:30:40 pm
Apparently it was posted by a staffer, not West himself.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who could run as an indepent and win in 2020? on: December 10, 2016, 05:26:39 pm
God willing, Mark Cuban.

Gross.
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Remaining votes (Update: about 500K ballots left to count nationwide) on: December 10, 2016, 04:52:15 pm
What caused Hillary's margin to balloon just now?

NYC finished reporting.
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Election Results by Congressional Districts, OFFICIAL THREAD on: December 10, 2016, 04:41:08 pm
NYC Districts:

NY-06: Clinton 64.7, Trump 31.9
NY-07: Clinton 86.4, Trump 10.3
NY-08: Clinton 84.2, Trump 13.4
NY-09: Clinton 83.0, Trump 14.3
NY-10: Clinton 77.5, Trump 18.6
NY-11: Trump 53.3, Clinton 43.5
NY-12: Clinton 82.4, Trump 13.3
NY-13: Clinton 91.8, Trump 5.4
NY-14: Clinton 77.3, Trump 19.7
NY-15: Clinton 93.5, Trump 4.9
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Election Results by Congressional Districts, OFFICIAL THREAD on: December 10, 2016, 03:49:57 pm
I discovered some fairly major errors in my IL calculation, mostly having to do with Cook County, part of which somehow ended up in IL-15 for some reason. Here are the re-run numbers which should be more accurate:

IL-01: Clinton 75.8, Trump 20.5
IL-02: Clinton 77.2, Trump 19.2
IL-03: Clinton 55.2, Trump 39.1
IL-04: Clinton 81.1, Trump 13.3
IL-05: Clinton 69.6, Trump 23.6
IL-06: Clinton 49.5, Trump 42.6
IL-07: Clinton 86.4, Trump 9.2
IL-08: Clinton 57.5, Trump 36.0
IL-09: Clinton 69.1, Trump 24.5
IL-10: Clinton 61.0, Trump 32.1
IL-11: Clinton 58.6, Trump 35.1
IL-12: Trump 54.6, Clinton 39.9
IL-13: Trump 49.5, Clinton 44.0
IL-14: Trump 48.9, Clinton 44.4
IL-15: Trump 70.4, Clinton 24.4
IL-16: Trump 55.1, Clinton 37.8
IL-17: Trump 47.0, Clinton 46.3
IL-18: Trump 60.6, Clinton 32.8
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Election Results by Congressional Districts, OFFICIAL THREAD on: December 10, 2016, 01:53:53 pm
IL-01: Clinton 74.4, Trump 21.3
IL-02: Clinton 69.7, Trump 25.5
IL-03: Clinton 67.5, Trump 27.4
IL-04: Clinton 78.9, Trump 16.1
IL-05: Clinton 73.9, Trump 19.9
IL-06: Clinton 50.6, Trump 41.9
IL-07: Clinton 79.9, Trump 15.3
IL-08: Clinton 56.6, Trump 37.0
IL-09: Clinton 67.8, Trump 26.1
IL-10: Clinton 58.4, Trump 34.5
IL-11: Clinton 50.8, Trump 42.7
IL-12: Trump 57.0, Clinton 37.1
IL-13: Trump 49.9, Clinton 43.7
IL-14: Trump 48.3, Clinton 45.2
IL-15: Trump 57.2, Clinton 36.9
IL-16: Trump 55.6, Clinton 37.7
IL-17: Trump 49.9, Clinton 43.5
IL-18: Trump 54.6, Clinton 38.9
The bold is wrong unless she destroyed him in Champlain county.  The rest of the district swung Trump and it already was 63% Romney in 2012. 

Can you check both that and the 17th again?


Edit I was a bit wrong, the 15th was 64-34 Romney.  So Unless she was able to make up huge margins in Champlain that number seems off.

You're right, and the IL-03 results seemed unlikely to me as well. I'm double checking it.
10  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: when will reilgous influence die on a politcal level? on: December 09, 2016, 11:21:54 pm
Never.

It's honestly pretty funny that Atlas is dreaming of some random future where atheistic (or Christian-In-Name-Only) norms are the only ones present in politics, while in the real world, Roe vs. Wade is set to die as soon as Ginsburg leaves SCOTUS.
ProLife opposition to Roe V. Wade has nothing to do with religion.

Yes it does, at least for many of us. 

I know of a number of pro-life atheists and used to be one myself. If anything, the pro-life position comes more naturally under an atheistic worldview than a Christian one.
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Election Results by Congressional Districts, OFFICIAL THREAD on: December 09, 2016, 11:02:29 pm
Some firmer results:

OR-01: Clinton 55.0, Trump 33.1
OR-02: Trump 54.7, Clinton 35.3
OR-03: Clinton 68.4, Trump 21.7
OR-04: Clinton 44.6, Trump 44.4
OR-05: Clinton 46.4, Trump 42.3
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Election Results by Congressional Districts, OFFICIAL THREAD on: December 09, 2016, 10:23:49 pm
I used the official precinct results and their CD assignments per the MD SoS. I'll double check it.

EDIT: Okay, their results are definitely messed up. Ignore the Maryland numbers. I think they might be Election Day only?
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Washington Post: CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win on: December 09, 2016, 10:06:56 pm
The Washington Post has been known to publish sensationalist pieces about Russian influence based on very flimsy evidence before.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win the WH on: December 09, 2016, 10:06:19 pm
The Washington Post has been known to publish sensationalist pieces about Russian influence based on very flimsy evidence before.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: RI's 2016 Precinct Map Thread on: December 09, 2016, 09:56:19 pm
Also, what about certain counties in Kentucky such as Campbell that aren't broken down by precinct? I can't possibly imagine Trump winning, say, Newport, but with our broken voting machines, you just never know.

AFAIK, Campbell County never bothered to release precinct results this time.
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Women Presidential Candidates (Jungle Primary) on: December 09, 2016, 09:55:19 pm
Probably McCormack, although that's a pretty sad list in general.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: RI's 2016 Precinct Map Thread on: December 09, 2016, 08:54:31 pm
Any chance of a CT precinct map?

I'll see what I can do.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: WA-05 Special Election Who Runs??? on: December 09, 2016, 07:50:41 pm
Apparently there's a whole website devoted to attacking Knezovich lol
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Should I run for Keith Ellison's seat if he resigns? on: December 09, 2016, 04:49:48 pm
Can't wait for ads attacking BRTD on his association with a communist pedophile.
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Election Results by Congressional Districts, OFFICIAL THREAD on: December 09, 2016, 04:43:36 pm
KS-01: Trump 68.9, Clinton 24.2
KS-02: Trump 55.2, Clinton 37.2
KS-03: Clinton 46.2, Trump 45.0
KS-04: Trump 59.1, Clinton 32.4
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump signs on to produce Celebrity Apprentice, while President on: December 09, 2016, 04:00:14 pm
Executive producer (Donald's role) is not the producer. The producer runs the show. Executive producers sign their name to a project to give it visibility. An executive producer can give advice and guidance but doesn't actually have to do anything.

Yes and no. On a TV series, a show runner, who is actually in charge of day to day operations, is credited as an executive producer. However, it does stand that not all executive producers are showrunners.

As an example, JJ Abrams and Jonathan Nolan were both executive producers for Westworld, but Abrams basically did nothing while Nolan ran the show.
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which truth actually matters? on: December 09, 2016, 03:11:49 pm
Both matter in different contexts, though objective truth is in no way determined by professionals, who are as trapped by their own subjective values and social settings as anyone else.
23  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Atlas' favorite countries: The Middle East (and Africa results!) on: December 09, 2016, 01:14:22 pm
Lebanon, easily.
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: WA-05 Special Election Who Runs??? on: December 09, 2016, 01:13:00 pm
By which margin Trump won this district?

Trump won 52-39
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Washington '15: The Calm Before the Drizzle on: December 09, 2016, 01:05:26 pm
I'd probably vote for Baumgartner if he ran. Pakootas is okay, but he'll never win this district.
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