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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: FL-27: Ileana Ros-Lehtinen to retire from Congress on: Today at 12:13:57 pm
Lean D might be too conservative, if anything.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Are you gay? on: April 28, 2017, 09:10:47 pm
No, despite what some on this site seem to think.
3  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: In your opinion, can a Christian believe in universal salvation? on: April 27, 2017, 07:43:52 pm
None of my business of course, but I'm convinced that belief in it is the fundamental requirement for Christianity to be morally sound. I just can't reconcile any other view with my idea of good and evil. Even the free will argument doesn't really make any sense to me.

Why should God force salvation on someone who knowingly rejects it?

2. after death, either some people don't love God so God's light seems to "burn" them while the same light brings bliss to others...

This is essentially the Eastern Orthodox belief regarding the nature of Hell. In essence, the only difference between Hell and purgatory is that one is permanent and the other temporary.

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===> but in either case, the individual can choose to learn to love God and enter "heaven," and with eternity this is inevitable for everyone

A couple of issues: First, the only way this can even work is if we assume temporal causality and the nature of human choice extends outside our plane of existence, as it were. I'm not sure that's really consistent with traditional Christian thought; generally, our decisions are thought to more or less "set" into place at the time of death.

Second, God torturing people into submitting to and "loving" Him might be even worse and more malevolent than eternal separation/other theories of Hell; also, this seems to contradict so many other points regarding free will and the point of Jesus and faith that I'm not even sure where to begin. If God will just torture everyone or overpower them into loving Him in the end, what's the point in everything else He's done? What's the point in free will? What's the point in belief? What's the point in Jesus's death? Can such a God really be called just? Such an outcome seems to strip away any sense of responsibility for one's actions... I just can't see it.
4  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Layoffs at ESPN on: April 27, 2017, 05:55:49 pm
Andy Katz too now.  And, Stephen A. Smith is still there.  Stick to sports, ESPN- not politics!

The conservative fantasy that millions of people are turning off ESPN because they occasionally mention Colin Kaepernick or whatever is ludicrous. ESPN is suffering because of cord-cutting, nothing else.

Actually...
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you live in a bubble? on: April 27, 2017, 04:08:33 pm
36, which feels about right.
6  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: In your opinion, can a Christian believe in universal salvation? on: April 27, 2017, 03:09:25 pm
None of my business of course, but I'm convinced that belief in it is the fundamental requirement for Christianity to be morally sound. I just can't reconcile any other view with my idea of good and evil. Even the free will argument doesn't really make any sense to me.

Why should God force salvation on someone who knowingly rejects it?
7  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: In your opinion, can a Christian believe in universal salvation? on: April 27, 2017, 01:12:23 pm
There are plenty of Purgatorial Universalists out there... I don't believe in it as I think it denies human free will and contradicts a number of Jesus's statements, but that doesn't mean a Christian can't believe in it; there are far more egregious things out there some Christians believe in.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: MT-AL: Rob Quist (D) vs. Greg Gianforte (R) vs. Mark Wicks (L), May 25 on: April 27, 2017, 11:08:47 am
Watched the debate & Gianforte seemed like a hard right, uber religious, "muh defense spending increase & national security", strong supporter of Trump, cut benefits of Healthcare coverage, Climate change denying "Humans have some impact in Climate Change ala Scott Pruitt" guy. He has also got a big likeability & honesty problem. You may not agree with McCain's or Collins' policies, but they are honest & likeable. Gianforte seemed like a "Slimy Politician" 101 type person! Doesn't look like a candidate, a left leaning MT Treasurer type people will vote for !

He is obviously trying to move to to center just for this campaign but he seemed like a small version of Ted Cruz. Wouldn't be surprised if he joined the Freedom Caucus & Tea party lunatics!

Gianforte went to Fox & called Quist a Pelosi with a hat who wants a 90% Income Tax & said the Trump train is going forward well in Montana, praised Trump & is campaigning hard with Donald Trump Jr! That 90% Income tax is garbage but he can speak any lie & get away just like his hero Trump !


Trump's favorables are +13 in Montana, according to the Emerson poll.  So campaigning with Donald Trump Jr. and praising President Trump is simply smart politics.

Highly unlikely that this is the case considering that national polling shows him at a ~43% approval rating.

Trump did pretty darn well in Montana. Given their small population and the strong swing toward Trump, I don't doubt that he's probably above water there.
9  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Layoffs at ESPN on: April 27, 2017, 10:48:45 am
ESPN going down the drain doesn't break my heart any.
10  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Study: College-educated Christians more likely to attend church weekly on: April 27, 2017, 10:40:00 am
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/04/education-church-attendance/524346/?utm_source=polfb

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While Americans with college experience are overall less likely to attend services, pray on a regular basis, and say religion is very important to them, that’s not true within many faith groups. In fact, Catholic, Mormon, and Protestant college grads are all more likely to attend church on a weekly basis than their less educated peers. This was not the trend among religious minorities like Muslims and Jews, or among people who don’t affiliate with any religion at all, suggesting that education has a distinctive effect on religiosity within the world of Christianity.

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Educational differences had a much bigger effect on religious practice. Sixty-eight percent of college-educated evangelical Protestants go to church every week, compared to 55 percent of those who only went to high school. In fact, college grads show up in the church pews more often in nearly every kind of Christian tradition: Among mainline Protestants, weekly attendance was 36 to 31 percent, more educated to less; among black Protestants, 59 to 52 percent; and among Catholics, 45 to 39 percent. The effect was perhaps greatest among Mormons: 85 percent of Mormon college graduates go to church at least once a week, compared to 66 percent of their peers with a high-school education or less.

The article presents the hypothesis that college allows Christians to better find a community they can latch on to compared to those who've graduated only high school. Another hypothesis I've seen is that college acts as a sieve to divide "true believers" from nominal Christians. However, I don't see either of these hypotheses answering why this impacts Christians but not Jews or Muslims.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What would the map look like without P*ssygate? on: April 27, 2017, 10:23:24 am
McMullin wouldn't have broken 10% in Utah.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Are Trump voters ruining America for all of us? on: April 27, 2017, 10:08:36 am
So much presumption that "gaffes" are worth caring about to begin with.
13  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Opinion of Young Earth Creationism on: April 27, 2017, 10:06:11 am
I know several, most notably my wife. Most of the ones I know keep pretty quiet about it outside of their Evangelical subculture, so it's not that surprising that you haven't met an open Young Earth Creationist, given your religion, location, education etc.

It's true that I don't interact with many evangelicals on a daily basis. Plenty of Catholics, Mormons, atheists, Mainliners, and a few quiet Arminian types, but not many evangelicals.

I know several, most notably my wife. Most of the ones I know keep pretty quiet about it outside of their Evangelical subculture, so it's not that surprising that you haven't met an open Young Earth Creationist, given your religion, location, education etc.
The only people I talk about YEC to are atheists.

can you stop trolling

When I was an atheist, I thought YEC was a big deal, so I spent a lot of mental energy fixating on it. It showed the "irrational, anti-science" mentality of theists, after all. Ironically, it's really an incredibly minor thing in Christianity which isn't accepted by the vast majority of notable churches; even most of the ones who do believe in it don't make that big of a deal out of it.

Option 4, as it is one of the major driving forces behind global warming denial

Anecdotal, of course, but I know a ton of conservative Catholics who believe in evolution but don't believe in (some major aspect of) global warming.
14  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Opinion of Young Earth Creationism on: April 26, 2017, 06:50:13 pm
Do these people actually still exist? I've never met one in real life.

Heresy.  Another part of The Great Apostasy.

YEC in Christianity wasn't really a firm thing until long after the supposed "Great Apostasy."
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Gang Tries Fixing the Tax Code on: April 26, 2017, 04:01:55 pm
Getting rid of itemized deductions is a great way to screw over people with student loan debt. Or medical debt for that matter.

Eh, doubling the standard deduction likely more than cancels out any loss in benefit from the student debt interest payments deduction.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Gang Tries Fixing the Tax Code on: April 26, 2017, 01:34:06 pm
That corporate tax drop is far more than we can afford at this point.

Corporate tax reduction is probably among the less egregious things in this proposal, actually.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Gang Tries Fixing the Tax Code on: April 26, 2017, 01:27:58 pm
The vast majority of the benefit of this proposal goes straight to the rich. smh
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Jeb Buys the Marlins on: April 26, 2017, 10:15:25 am
Anyone's better than Loria.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Oregon Man Fined $500 for Practicing Engineering Without a License on: April 26, 2017, 10:06:25 am
Generally speaking, engineers should be licensed if they're creating or designing things people rely on. This... is not that.
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: in your opinion, is the Democratic Party too Russophobic? on: April 25, 2017, 10:08:18 am
"Russophobia", like "Islamophobia", is a bullsh*t word.

Any "phobia" word that isn't an actual fear or aversion is a BS word.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump should try this instead of threatening North Korea on: April 24, 2017, 03:57:29 pm
lol
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: April 24, 2017, 10:20:36 am
YouGov poll of Wales:

CON 40 (21 seats)
LAB 30 (15 seats)
PC 13 (3 seats)
LD 8 (1 seat)
UKIP 6
GRN 2
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Can a first lady be part of the cabinet on: April 24, 2017, 09:42:22 am
How about if the First Lady and the President aren't actually married?
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Atlas Institute for Political Hackery on: April 24, 2017, 09:34:30 am
I am anti-abortion. But my reasons for wanting it to be rare--that most aborted fetuses would otherwise be future Democratic voters
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Strength Of GOP in U.S. Territories on: April 23, 2017, 11:32:28 pm
American Samoa has a huge Mormon population, so it would presumably be fairly Republican. Guam's governor is a Republican; their economy is heavily based around US military bases, of course. The NMIs have a long history of GOP governors; both NMIs and Guam are supermajority Catholic. The current governor of the Virgin Islands is a black Independent who used to be a Republican.
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