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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Wisconsin a new deep red state? on: April 21, 2017, 01:02:27 pm
Well people are calling it Wississipi

That's cool. Are people really calling it that?



Some people, not many, usually the people that use it are pretty far left. Would take a very, very long time for Wisconsin to get anywhere as bad as Mississippi in anything.
I think our roads might qualify! In all seriousness I had heard a report after the election that WI was one of the states still with more boomers than millennial's which certainly helps explain last year.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pence Wont Have Dinner With A Woman Who Isnt His Wife on: March 31, 2017, 04:32:34 pm
The dinner thing is pretty uninteresting. however everyone seems to have missed his other statement that he wont go to events that serve alcohol without his wife. Does mike pence have a drinking problem?
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Stranger: More Than 1,000 People Moving to Seattle a Week (Census Report) on: March 31, 2017, 04:17:52 pm
Holy moly. That all ↑ sounds like an infrastructural and real estate nightmare. What is being done to address the situation, if anything at all?

I gotta admit, the west coast states and CO are high up in my potential future home state list after I'm done with my degree.

Very little is being done, other than pretending that preventing development will somehow depress prices

This is the real problem right here. People want a strong economy but don't want apartment buildings.

NIMBYS should be evicted to the rural, bland, lifeless areas.
We dont need more morons bitching about windfarms.
4  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Autogolpe in Venezuela: The Last Vestige of Democracy Ends on: March 31, 2017, 04:07:24 pm
Overdrammatic title.  They will vote Maduro out in 2018 if the election is anything close to fair.

Chavez never held an unfair election and neither have the Chavistas under Maduro. Not to say they won't this time facing certain defeat.  But they are not dictators so again I don't even know if they are capable of staging a rigged election. Even the Mexicans screwed it up in 1988.
Even if they aren't rigging elections there is good reason to think they wont cede power.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: I-85 in ATL collapses, RIP on: March 31, 2017, 02:57:13 am
Im not sure this is actually because of bad infrastructure so much as idiots storing highly flammable materials underneath a overpass...
6  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Explain Ukrainian politics to me on: March 29, 2017, 01:08:11 pm
Wasn't Mikheil Saakashvili (lol) starting his own party?

He got chased out of Ukraine for being terrible and lives in Brooklyn now.
No you have that backwards he got chased out of georgia and moved to brooklyn. then he got a job as odessa Gov after that. Which hes since resigned and now is getting a political party going.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AHCA Whip Count on: March 24, 2017, 03:37:49 pm
This looks bad right now, but in reality republicans probably saved themselves from a 2018 shellacking by not passing this utterly terrible bill.
By pissing off their own base with keeping the mandate for two more years? This was a lose-lose situation in my opinion.
You are forgetting that most voters don't know anything and those that do only care for 5 minutes. Two years from now nobody will be voting on the basis of the GOP failing to repeal Obamacare, but a lot of people would have voted against the GOP if they had gotten much worse health care, whoch would have been the resukt fir millions with this bill.
My point isnt that they will remember the failure today. Its that they seem to be counting on people not blaming them for rising premiums well they had full power to do away with the law. That isn't a easy sell to say i bear no responsibility for this to base voters who have believed for years republicans would get rid of the mandate on day one.
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AHCA Whip Count on: March 24, 2017, 03:29:08 pm
This looks bad right now, but in reality republicans probably saved themselves from a 2018 shellacking by not passing this utterly terrible bill.
By pissing off their own base with keeping the mandate for two more years? This was a lose-lose situation in my opinion.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: First Lady Melania reads to hospitalized children on: March 06, 2017, 04:19:27 am
No one would care if this headline was about Laura Bush, Barbara Bush, or Michelle Obama because we expect first lady's to do stuff like this.

Who cares what people "expect"? First Lady is not a public office. Melania, Laura, Michelle etc. are private citizens like you and me. Assigning certain duties based on who they're married to strikes me as a creepy monarchical relic tbh.

I don't know and don't care why Melania is doing this, but still, good for her.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publicity_stunt

Let her actually use the office of FLOTUS for something cogent and worthwhile, then we'll talk.

I for one am simply happy she was able to read the book.

There is no such thing. Did you read my post?
Perhaps he actually knows more than you? Seeing as there is a ceremonial office of the first lady that has its own staff and budget.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Once prominent people + general things in the US that have faded from the memory on: March 05, 2017, 03:19:48 am
The Bush Administration and probably the Obama admin in a few years too.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Arkansas debates removing Clinton name from Little Rock airport on: March 05, 2017, 03:13:35 am
Generally speaking, I don't like it when things are named after living people, period. No matter what.

Yeah. When he was alive I really thought it was unbecoming for Robert Byrd to name half his state after himself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_named_after_Robert_Byrd

You should come to Wisconsin - where literally every other state building is named after Tommy Thompson.
A bunch of stuff up here in the 7th is named after dave obey.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mattis planned to hijack Iranian ship; only leaks stopped plan on: March 03, 2017, 03:51:29 pm
Trump's foreign policy team is chaotic. There are great people like Trump, formerly Flynn, Sessions, and Tillerson who are fighting for detante. And then, for reasons I'll never never understand, he puts Niki Haley at the UN, potential National Review Party nominee James Mattis, and a whole host of other misc. neocons in various posts.

Trump, the guy who argued for ground troops in Libya, is no non-interventionist.
Neither are flynn or sessions for that matter. Im confused as to when adopting a pro russia stance made all the other countries these people want to bomb go away
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why did Dairy Country Swing Heavily Towards Trump? on: February 28, 2017, 02:58:07 pm
You're assuming that people vote rationally based on policy effects rather than on gut racialized instinct.  Let me guess that the moo cow workers are disproportionately white, rural, and not college educated?

Most owners of dairy farms, small or large, are white and probably with varying Levels of education, a lot of agribusiness types have college degrees. Their workers are mostly either family or hispanic immigrants who don't vote. Most dairy farmers (and livestock farmers in general) voted republican in both elections. The vast majority of people in dairy country don't work in dairy related jobs and as such the swings probably didn't directly involve the dairy industry.
Really depends on location dairy farmers in Western wisconsin were possibly more dem overall than the rest of the locals. But traditional cleavages are dead, the small farmer no longer exists in any meaningful sense. In fact last night i heard on the radio how there is only 21 dairy Co ops left in the state and that is likely to fall more
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Your feelings on Perez as DNC Chair, Ellison as Deputy Chair? on: February 26, 2017, 04:53:54 pm
Democrat - Burn'em all!
Except you aren't you are in the foreigner category.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Next DNC Chair: TOM PEREZ WINS, makes Ellison deputy chair on: February 26, 2017, 04:23:42 pm
In more DNC news, Ex Mayor of Baltimore Stephanie Rawlings-Blake faced embarassing defeat for re-election to DNC Secretary to Jason Rae (who??).
A guy from my county! hes a young party official who has been moving up in the DNC for awhile.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Gillibrand on Late Night with Seth Meyers tonight (Tue Feb. 21) on: February 22, 2017, 03:29:35 pm
She comes across as a bubbly teacher which I don't think is a negative here. If anything it would be helpful.
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread on: February 22, 2017, 03:14:30 pm
Looking at the results at the county level, the traditional GOP East, Dem West pattern is very obvious. Evers dominated in Western Wisconsin, especially along the traditional Dem corridor between Eau Claire, La Crosse, and Dane counties.

The only real surprises are Douglas County, which Evers' won, but by much less than you would expect given all the surrounding counties, and Evers' over-performance in Outagamie, which he won with more than 70% - and as I mentioned earlier, Ozaukee seems to be peeling itself out of WOW, as Evers carried it. Holtz only "won" Washington and Waukesha counties... he even lost Florence.
I believe one of the republicans had been previously in charge of the Superior school district, that's probably why Douglas has a soft margin.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Official Trump 1.0 Approval Ratings Thread on: February 17, 2017, 12:53:13 pm
One thing people seem to miss on the education gap is how it also correlates in part with age.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: White House reportedly looking at potential replacements for Michael Flynn on: February 15, 2017, 02:45:46 pm
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/15/robert-harward-plans-a-housecleaning-of-trumps-national-security-council-staff/

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President Donald Trump offered the job of national security advisor to retired Vice Adm. Robert Harward on Monday night, and was a bit surprised when Harward responded by saying he needed a couple of days to think it over.

If, as expected, Harward accepts the job today, he is likely to bring in his own team, from deputy on down, with a focus on national security types with some experience under their belts.

He was wanted by Mattis from what ive heard.
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Florida Sen. Bill Nelson in Trouble on: February 15, 2017, 02:33:16 pm
Tim canova is a loon so i don't think he will get far.
21  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: US Congressman: Macedonia "not a country" on: February 11, 2017, 12:23:34 pm
Wow. First Putin and now Greek internet trolls are getting deep into the Republican Party. Very impressive form of entryism this.
There is also a thing with some other republican congressmen accusing the former ambassador of trying to get leftists+islamists into power in Macedonia. Which means VMRO has also bought a few members of congress.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump Cabinet confirmation hearings **live commentary thread** on: February 07, 2017, 02:48:15 pm
Manu Raju ‏@mkraju  10m10 minutes ago
Sen. Collins, Murkowski, Scott and Isakson all withholding judgment on Puzder's nomination after he revealed he hired undocumented immigrant


I'm guessing this will either end up similar to Tillerson (people pretend they are concerned and then vote Aye anyway), or Puzder may pull out.
There is talk of scott walker angling for it if he pulls out.

That's not a very funny joke.
Not a joke but it seems hes denying the rumors. http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/scott-walker-nixes-speculation-he-s-in-mix-for-donald/article_d3824fe2-a53c-5365-a2d3-fca4e9d9b589.html
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump Cabinet confirmation hearings **live commentary thread** on: February 07, 2017, 02:23:30 pm
Manu Raju ‏@mkraju  10m10 minutes ago
Sen. Collins, Murkowski, Scott and Isakson all withholding judgment on Puzder's nomination after he revealed he hired undocumented immigrant


I'm guessing this will either end up similar to Tillerson (people pretend they are concerned and then vote Aye anyway), or Puzder may pull out.
There is talk of scott walker angling for it if he pulls out.
24  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Vienna: Police arrest 22 Chechen men for planning a possible terror attack on: February 04, 2017, 11:45:59 am
Sounds more likely to be criminal related stuff from the description rather than terrorism
25  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Tulsi Gabbard and the BJP on: January 29, 2017, 06:26:17 pm
Well if she's a potential presidential candidate as some would have us believe that what people outside her district think IS quite relevant.

In THIS case - absolutely... I never doubted it. Otherwise - it's only an opinion of HER voters which is important to her. I would never say that, say, Democrats can't criticize, say, Matt Gaetz, but i am absolutely sure he will pay zero attention to such criticizm. He doesn't run for anything, but FL-01, AFAIK, and people in FL-01 will mostly support him against such critics..

This is simply my reaction when i see hysteric cries "primary him/her!". From everyone, though in most cases these cries come from "activists" of both parties, whom i strongly dislike. If people of the district do want to primary somebody - they will do it without such "orders". If not - they are absolutely within their right to ignore such cries..
Bizarre that you of all people are defending a sanders supporter. Seeing as they are the primary everyone types.
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