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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Republican National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 20, 2016, 07:50:22 pm
Wow, that speech could have been given at any convention.

PBS pointed out that she didn't say the last line of her speech: "That leader is Donald Trump."
I think people criticizing her don't realize she was just there to try and sell NASA to republicans.
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Best and Worst Governors of the Past 50 Years: Wisconsin on: July 20, 2016, 10:46:17 am
Thompson/McCallum
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Melania Trump caught plagiarizing Michelle Obama's 2008 speech on: July 19, 2016, 01:36:52 pm
Objectively, even if you think this criticism is unfair, this is going to be perhaps the single thing people remember from this convention, unless, as someone else pointed out, someone does something even more blatant and stupid. This has the potential to put a major dent in the post-convention bounce that Trump was counting on and sets up the Democrats well going into August.
We have three more days of insanity I have my doubts this will be it.
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: did krazen1211 quit the atlas forum? on: July 19, 2016, 11:46:14 am
Krazen still posts over at Red racing horses I think. Though im not sure he fits in all that well there since about 70% of them hate trump and he supports him.
5  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: On-Going Military Coup in Turkey on: July 18, 2016, 02:35:36 pm
Interesting guardian article
 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/18/military-coup-was-well-planned-and-very-nearly-succeeded-say-turkish-officials?CMP=share_btn_tw

Also this nice image that shows that despite not being fans of edrogan turks do not want military Coups to solve their problems.
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6  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: On-Going Military Coup in Turkey on: July 18, 2016, 10:04:10 am
Killing Erdogan to create another Menderes. Coup leaders wouldn't be dumb to kill him.

On the contrary, it is usually preferable to assassinate the leader if it is impossible to arrest them.

For example the 20 July Plot failed because the plotters failed to assasinate Hitler, and the coup subsequently failed because of this.

I agree.  In fact that they failed to shoot down Erdogan adds to the argument that this might have been staged.
Has the Chinese Gov ever even pulled off something that elaborate? It would be extremely hard to pull off something of this scale if it was just fake .
7  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: On-Going Military Coup in Turkey on: July 16, 2016, 01:50:49 am
The Idea that Erdogan planned this all himself would make him one of the greatest masterminds of all time. I don't think anyone who has heard him speak would think that.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread on: July 13, 2016, 02:03:40 pm
Some statewide tidbits from the new Marquette poll:

Should marijuana be legalized and regulated like alcohol? (Prior poll with a similar question was September 2014)

Yes 59% (+13)
No 39% (-12)

Scott Walker's approval rating:

38% approve (-1)
58% disapprove (+1)

Walker's approvals have yet to rebound since his presidential run.

Paul Ryan's favorability rating:

48% favorable (-1)
33% unfavorable (+1)

President Obama's approval rating:

51% approval (+/-0)
45% disapproval (+2)

I think it is increasingly likely walker doesn't run again. Good rec marijuana numbers, a advisory referendum on it would be fun.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: In this thread, we post r/S4P reactions to tonight's news on: July 13, 2016, 01:38:56 pm
In all fairness to the insanity of reddit sanders supporters, we all do remember Hilaryis44 right? Which is now a pro Trump site.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: Marquette Law School WI: Clinton +6 RV, Clinton +4 LV on: July 13, 2016, 12:57:05 pm
Very good for Clinton. She's got this state.

It's an okay showing. She should send in Sanders and Obama to help lock it down for her (and for Big Russ) though.
That was her plan prior to orlando.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: In this thread, we post r/S4P reactions to tonight's news on: July 12, 2016, 02:05:36 pm
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Today I realized that the system is actually rigged. Even contemplating if Sanders was a Clinton plant after all... This is unbelievable. His campaign was supposed to be the anti-thesis of Clinton, now he's endorsing her?
https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4shhs2/sorry_bernie_i_love_you_but_even_with_your/d59c9fs
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: In this thread, we post r/S4P reactions to tonight's news on: July 12, 2016, 04:21:52 am
"Please STOP asking for us to support Hillary Clinton" is currently the top post in the sub the day before bernie asks his supporters to support Hillary Clinton.
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bahamas warns its citizens about US police on: July 10, 2016, 11:10:11 am
The only reason they did this is because the US puts travel warnings on them.
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: TRUMP considers rabid anti-Muslim, pro-Putin general for VP on: July 10, 2016, 10:57:19 am
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”
A Trump Flynn ticket would probably be the least cross bearing GOP ticket to date. But the rest applies.
15  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Chicago vs. Madison on: July 10, 2016, 12:48:43 am
Spoken like a true Wisconsin driver.

Last fall, while driving up to Door County, I drove up on a Wisconsinite going 55 mph on a 65 mph highway in the passing lane (that's the left one, 'Sconnies!) with his brights on, LOL. Tongue
Probably a drunk. Most people dont do 20 over like people from IL though, but thats because we cant afford the 300 dollar tickets and the billions of deer.
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Iceland presidential election, June 25th 2016 on: June 25, 2016, 12:35:16 pm
Apparently 10% of the population is in France for the game. So turnout will likely be low.
http://icelandreview.com/news/2016/06/24/low-voter-turnout-expected-election
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: United Kingdom Referendum on European Union Membership on: June 23, 2016, 10:15:30 pm
Plymouth has voted 60% to leave.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Question for gun lovers on: June 22, 2016, 07:16:23 pm
It would be odd to find a gun owner who has never used all the guns they own. I do have a 22 rifle passed down I haven't shot in years though.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: BREAKING: Obama to endorse Clinton this afternoon on: June 09, 2016, 04:11:03 pm
Warren endorsement coming tonight at 9 on Rachel Maddow.
Kinda surprised shes rolling them all in one day, I guess it will dominate the weekend media cycle. Has biden endorsed yet?
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Post-mortem: Did Sanders run a good campaign? on: June 08, 2016, 11:27:26 am
Oh yes closing off the primary sounds like a fantastic idea. Let's NEVER consult independents on who we nominate.
Its not even functionally possible to make states like WI and MN closed. no one is gonna spend millions of dollars to change our system completely.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: This is the scariest story I've read all year on: May 27, 2016, 11:09:49 pm
Alls I can say is... stop using antibacterial anything.  Let yourself get dirty now and then.  Use regular soap and hot water to scrub away bacteria and by all means... AVOID THE HOSPITAL/SURGERY as much as possible.


Mild problem compared to the real issue. Which is farmers.
22  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: A small map of American colleges I created (in progress) on: May 24, 2016, 02:18:40 pm
You have UW Barron county located in sand creek, which isnt even in the county Tongue It should be placed right next to WITC in Rice Lake.
23  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / City and Town estimates on: May 23, 2016, 03:31:59 pm
I see that no one seems to have noticed The census bureau released new city and town estimates the other day.

http://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2016/cb16-81.html
http://www.census.gov/popest/data/cities/totals/2015/index.html
24  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: PRC political ideology by Province on: May 18, 2016, 10:06:08 am
What exactly would a "rust belt" region be in the Chinese context? There's not much to be rusting yet...

Also, is there any explanation for the apparent belt of poorer inland provinces running from Shanxi to Jiangxi, between the wealthy coast and a second belt of wealthier provinces to their west? Were they "leapfrogged" in the spread of industry into interior China in favor of places further inland? Geographical disadvantages? Poor natural resources? 

I know relatively little about the economic geography of China-- or its geography in general. (It doesn't help that so many of them have confusingly similar names.) Still, I never fail to be surprised when reminded of Inner Mongolia's apparently vast wealth. I can only assume that the place is highly unequal, although it's an assumption grounded purely in intuition. One also wonders who the leftists are in Xinjiang. They can't possibly be the locals.

I'd ask how they were able to collect such data in the first place, but I imagine the answer could be found in the linked document. Alas, I'm too tired to read it now-- maybe later.
The northeast states have had a decent amount of old communist industry that isnt aging well.
25  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Where would you rather live? WV, or WY? on: May 12, 2016, 04:50:23 pm
Hmmm....




You know the second one exists in Wyoming as well right?
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