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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: DoD definition of "terrorists" on: June 16, 2009, 11:58:56 pm
    That's a very disturbing development. If people who protest can be branded "low-level terrorists", what hope is there for freedom of speech?

Free speech will be alive and well.  Protestors will be allowed to bitch about it all they want during their preventive detention.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gingrich: GOP-ers may form third party on: April 02, 2009, 10:45:11 pm

But if you became an Independent, how often would you still vote GOP?

Oh, I assumed this meant the GOP would crumble and a new third party or some other current third party would replace it.



I don't think the GOP would ever die completely.  The premise is more that they get relegated to third party status.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gingrich: GOP-ers may form third party on: April 02, 2009, 10:04:27 pm
Roll Eyes

By the way, if this happened, they would need to form a totally new third party because I don't like the current choices or I'd just be an Independent.

I think if anyone did break off this is what would happen.  If a large bloc of voters would have jumped to the Libs they would have by now.

But if you became an Independent, how often would you still vote GOP?
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: TSA Detains Man for Carrying $4,700 of cash on: April 02, 2009, 10:01:41 pm
I have to agree with the TSA that carrying more than $500 or so in cash is definitely suspicious. Usually a sign of drug trafficking or other illegal smuggling (but most smuggling is in the drug trade), or possibly counterfeiting (although that's unusual).

Nonsense.  Carrying a large amount of cash is a sign of nothing other than carrying a large amount of cash.  And $500 is peanuts if you're going somewhere where credit and debit cards aren't in much use.

It's not against the law to carry as much cash as you want (except that you need to declare if you're bringing more than $10,000 in cash in or out of the country).

The federal civil asset forfeiture laws were amended in 2000 because they were being abused by law enforcement, and the federal circuit courts have been clawing back on the circumstances under which just carrying cash is probable cause for anything else.

That pretty much sums it up.  I can't remember the last time I boarded a plane with less than $1000 cash, in my pocket.  The first two times I went overseas my ATM card got eaten.  Blind luck, I know, but still a good reason to carry a bundle.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Joe the plumber is... on: April 02, 2009, 09:32:41 pm

I had to close the tab as soon as I heard the song he was introduced to.  Absolute tripe.  Reminds me of this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WclNIbnyfRI
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: TSA Detains Man for Carrying $4,700 of cash on: April 02, 2009, 09:24:14 pm

Love the way that guy handled himself with the fuzz.  What a disgrace.  Since when does carrying cash equal reasonable suspicion? 

I doubt it had anything to do with being a Ron Paul worker though.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Blago finally indicted on: April 02, 2009, 09:14:57 pm
And to think, all my Dem friends once spoke of this clown the same way they do Obama...
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Gingrich: GOP-ers may form third party on: April 02, 2009, 09:10:11 pm
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/20809.html

I doubt this happens, but I have three questions...

1 - If a large number of cons leave the GOP, do they go Libertarian?

2 - If not Libertarian, where?

3 - How big will Obama's electoral landslide be in 2012?
9  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Obama: agenda over reelection? on: March 22, 2009, 05:24:05 am

Obama's just stuck in campaign mode.  That's all he's ever done, and now that he's reached the top, he doesn't know what else to do.  And not only is he still trying to convince the public that he's some kind of rebel, but it's actually still working.
10  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: the Destiny of Humankind on: March 15, 2009, 10:09:53 am

It'll probably end eventually, but you never know.  Earth will definitely become inhabitable at some point.  But colonization within the next 300 years or so isn't beyond the realm of possibility. 
11  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Climate 'denial' is now a mental disorder on: March 08, 2009, 09:38:11 pm
The rhetoric coming from both sides is way way over the top.  The arrogance of the left and the smugness of the right and the continued preconceived notions and biases have degraded the quality of the research immensely.

The number of weather stations have dropped more than 50%, most of them in rural areas and so we are left "guessing" temperatures in the vast areas of the world that used to be measured directly... and of course these areas are "warming the fastest".

The discrepancy between satellite readings and surface stations grows wider and wider as the satellite readings show almost no warming over the period of record with a cooling trend in the past 7 years while the surface stations, ever in declining numbers, and ever more concentrated in heavily developed urban areas keep warming.

When NOAA updated their temperature measures a few years ago, they completely removed the urban heat island effect from the equation and then bellowed on and on about how much faster the planet was warming than we had previously thought... of course this is when the satellite measures really started to differ.

I won't call it a conspiracy.. but I think both sides already have their outcome firmly entrenched and they're just looking for the science to prove it.

Yeah, it's starting to sound a lot like the creationism vs evolution debate.  Both sides use fairly biased 'proof' and cherry pick facts to support their argument.
12  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: What percentage of people in jail are innocent of their convicted crimes? on: March 08, 2009, 09:34:36 pm

I'd say the drug thing alone puts it higher than 10%.  How many people get convicted as dealers based on the amount they have in possession, even though they never intended to sell any of it? 

And I'm not sure about other states, but here in IL, if you get accused of something along the lines of assault and/or battery, and you don't have any witnesses to back you up or a rock solid alibi, you're pretty much screwed.  I've known half a dozen people that were convicted because they couldn't prove that they didn't do it.  Three of them ended up doing time, the other three ended up plea bargaining.
13  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Obama vs. Limbaugh? on: March 08, 2009, 08:38:28 pm

Biggest ass whooping in U.S. history.

The only way Rush will ever be POTUS, is if someone's dumb enough to put him in charge of Homeland Security and the 15 people ahead of him in line die at the same time.
14  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Gingrich considering a run in 2012, should decide by January 2011 on: March 08, 2009, 08:23:12 pm

I think if the economy's still bad in 2012, a candidate Newt would actually help Obama make his case for another four years.  The Dem spin will be to point out the 'prosperity' of the 90's, and how Newt hated Clinton, which means he hates prosperity. 

And I can imagine BONBC having a field day with the infidelity thing, this soundbyte in particular - "There are times that I have fallen short of my own standards. There's certainly times when I've fallen short of God's standards."

Plus, they'll say he's part of the old Washington establishment.

So he'll be painted as a prosperity hating hypocrite dinosaur.  And enough people will believe it to give Obama an easy victory.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Excited for the President's address to Congress? on: February 25, 2009, 05:08:01 am

He's the coolest when doing behind the scenes stuff that the government doesn't tell us about.





16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Self-loathing hypocrite Republican in Minnesota on: February 25, 2009, 04:50:48 am
Sen. Koering's office has issued a response to the controversy:

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My name is Ken Swecker, Senator Koering's Legislative Assistant.  Senator Koering and I both would like to respond to the e-mails we've been receiving regarding his intention to not vote in favor of Senate File 120.  I am currently responding to the e-mails to give you the Senator's home phone number so that you might call him over the weekend and speak with him personally on the matter.  This much he asked me to do.

To add to that, as a personal statement, is to say that SF 120 is something that the majority of the People of Senate District 12, the People that he was elected to represent, do not favor this piece of legislation.  In case you have forgotten, we are a government of the People, by the People, and for the People.  He was not elected serve his personal interests.  I personally believe that instead of sending e-mails full of threats and hateful words you should take his example to heart and congratulate him on being a legislator who cares more about what the People of his district want than what he may want personally.  You and I both know that this is a rare quality to find, and just because this is contrary to how you wish for him to vote, you must remember and respect he is here to represent the interests of his rural Minnesota constituents who voted him into office. As a constituent of his myself, I am happy to see him take non-personal votes on several issues.  After all, I would not want another politician taking another vote that would serve his or her personal interests more so than the People's, would you?

I can testify all day long about how much Senator Koering cares for the People of Senate District 12.  He ran three consecutive times, being defeated the first two, and why did he put himself through so much hard work?  Do you think it was because he needed another job?  Absolutely not!  He did it because he believed he was the best person to serve the People that he calls neighbors, friends, and family.  And especially now, in a time like this, we are being bogged down with this completely pointless issue.  There are People in Morrison and Crow Wing Counties, and across the State who are losing their jobs, their homes, their insurance, and were you to ask them if this is an issue that should take one second of precedent over these conditions they're facing every day, do you believe, do you honestly believe that they would say to you, 'Yes, please, waste the time of the State Legislature with a piece of legislation that will not help, but in fact, overshadow the current situation we're living in?  Please, waste their time with this piece of legislation while I tell my son and daughter that mom and dad aren't hungry tonight?'

I know very well that you will respond to this e-mail of mine with some probably quirky, snide, and very thoughtless comment that will make me out to be a bad person and threaten the Senator even more just as most of the absolutely tactless and disrespectful e-mails we've received have been written, but really, don't waste your time.  We'll just put your e-mail where it belongs, in the trash.

The Senator's home number is
218-829-0544

He's free on the weekends.

Very Sincerely, every word of it,
Ken Swecker

P.S.
I hope you do not believe that this e-mail was written specific to the one that you sent, this is a blanket e-mail, being sent to everyone who has e-mailed us on this issue and I've already wasted too much time in responding to you.  Good day.

http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/02/whats_a_gay_republicans_duty.php


I am surprised the senator's office would put out this arrogant, condescending piece of bull$hit.  He may have more in common with Jim West than I thought.  He needs a laxative.  Or an enema.  Or perhaps a butt plug.  Something to relieve his acute case of anal tension.

Furthermore, if you look at the language of the letter and its dismissive tone, it strongly suggests that he is doing the very thing I accused him of.  One example:

"He is here to represent the interests of his rural Minnesota constituents who voted him into office ... I would not want another politician taking another vote that would serve his or her personal interests more so than the People's, would you?"

Koering is deliberately attempting to curry political favor with the prejudiced base in his district by trampling on gay rights.  This is disgusting.

Still think he's not a sellout?

I probably won't discuss this further, because Koering is a waste of time.  He certainly has done nothing to change my negative view of gay Republicans.  And this is what comes from trusting them.

I wasn't actually that bothered by Koering's actions until I read this crap.  You're right, it was both arrogant and dismissive.  What a tool.  Saying he's just trying to represent the people's interest over his own.  That's just a lame attempt at having it both ways. 

The proof is in his original statement saying it was a distraction.  I think someone else already pointed out that it takes the same amount of time to vote 'yes' as it does 'no'.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "Living standards" on: February 25, 2009, 04:32:28 am
Are you asking me?  I don't think capitalism does reduce choice or quality.  In fact, the opposite tends to be true.

No, I was actually backing you up on that one.  People can say what they want about the evils of capitalism, and they do exist, but they pale in comparison to the alternatives.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Excited for the President's address to Congress? on: February 25, 2009, 04:27:21 am
OMFG I AM IN TASTE HEAVEN


http://www.recipesource.com/ethnic/asia/hawaiian/00/rec0001.html
I just made that during this process + some local specialty Pineapple-flavored olive oil from NoCal.  Delish.  That stupid Salmon cost over twenty bucks but he's paying me back via taste buds this very moment.



Damn, I got stuck with four McChickens.  I have them swap the mayo for tartar.  It's really tasty, but not enough to make me do this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4baQaUFd7LU
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "Living standards" on: February 25, 2009, 04:20:30 am
Yes yes, we're all "slaves" to the "man".  If being a slave means DVRs, large HDTVs, modern PCs w/ broadband, a grocery store with more food options than any sane human could want and all the other awesome things life in 2009 brings us.  It sure beats picking cotton or playing human shield on the front lines.

Lots of people can't afford those things, and lots more can't afford health care, housing, or transportation.
Define "lots".

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Capitalism dos NOT provide for the lower classes, deadman - why would it?  What reason is there for it to do that?  The odd thing is it also tends to reduce choice and quality (re: your grocery store example).
Why should it?  If it's a better system for the top 90%, a wash for the next 5% and a worse system* for the bottom 5%, isn't that better than a system that is the exact opposite?  The idea of slowing society's advance down just to make sure the bottom rung on the latter is well taken care of is insane to me.


*I don't actually buy that.  I think everybody does better in a capitalist based economy.  Feel free to plug in your own numbers though.

How does capitalism reduce choice and quality?  If a company rises to become a monopoly, perhaps they'd stop giving a sh**t and just force us to keep doling out cash for their sh**tty product (Microsoft comes to mind), but at least other companies (Apple) or ideas (Linux) will have an opportunity to step in.   

If the state controls any or all industry, what hopes do the people have of a better option?
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Excited for the President's address to Congress? on: February 24, 2009, 11:32:15 pm

You're ignoring other things Chris and Rachel mentioned, like "Bobby" invoking Katrina as an example of why we can't depend on government. Seriously? It had nothing to do with Republicans cramming a little known independent agency called FEMA into Homeland Security to 'consolidate' government?

Actually, uh, it is a classic example as to why we can't rely totally on the government.

Of course you deliver your typical hack nonsense and give no blame to the Democratic Governor at the time.

So much for his hopes in 2012.

I really doubt that his chances for the nomination are sunk because of an address that few people will see or remember.

Wow, Piyush has been really embarassing tonight. Is this how he normally speaks?

I love when Democrats can make fun of someone's name...  Roll Eyes

I remember Tim Kaine's name being mentioned pretty heavily for 2008 until he bombed giving a rebuttal.  2005 or 2006, I can't remember which.

No one talked about Kaine for President in 2008. No one talked about it seriously at least.

Anyway, MSNBC is a huge joke. Chris Matthews basically said that the GOP can't talk about corruption because Scooter Libby was a registered Republican. Really, Chris? That's the best you have?

Not true.  People, at least the ones I know and the pundits I read/watched, were talking about him the same way Jindal's been talked about recently.  Rising star, popular southern Gov, etc.

Uh...

No, they never spoke about Kaine like they speak about Jindal. Sure, Kaine was a rising star but he was never talked about as a Presidential candidate in 2008.

Your right, I must have imagined it.  Thanks for the correction.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Excited for the President's address to Congress? on: February 24, 2009, 10:42:46 pm
So much for his hopes in 2012.

I really doubt that his chances for the nomination are sunk because of an address that few people will see or remember.

Wow, Piyush has been really embarassing tonight. Is this how he normally speaks?

I love when Democrats can make fun of someone's name...  Roll Eyes

I remember Tim Kaine's name being mentioned pretty heavily for 2008 until he bombed giving a rebuttal.  2005 or 2006, I can't remember which.

No one talked about Kaine for President in 2008. No one talked about it seriously at least.

Anyway, MSNBC is a huge joke. Chris Matthews basically said that the GOP can't talk about corruption because Scooter Libby was a registered Republican. Really, Chris? That's the best you have?

Not true.  People, at least the ones I know and the pundits I read/watched, were talking about him the same way Jindal's been talked about recently.  Rising star, popular southern Gov, etc.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Excited for the President's address to Congress? on: February 24, 2009, 10:41:12 pm

Now he's the 'hope' candidate, too. 

Dude, he's not campaigning.  He's given a State of the Union response speech.

Right, and Obama's wasn't the first major stump speech of the 2012 elections.  Jindal wouldn't be doing this if the GOP wasn't trying him out for the same election.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Excited for the President's address to Congress? on: February 24, 2009, 10:38:50 pm
So much for his hopes in 2012.

I really doubt that his chances for the nomination are sunk because of an address that few people will see or remember.

Wow, Piyush has been really embarassing tonight. Is this how he normally speaks?

I love when Democrats can make fun of someone's name...  Roll Eyes

I remember Tim Kaine's name being mentioned pretty heavily for 2008 until he bombed giving a rebuttal.  2005 or 2006, I can't remember which.
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Excited for the President's address to Congress? on: February 24, 2009, 10:36:09 pm

Now he's the 'hope' candidate, too. 
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Excited for the President's address to Congress? on: February 24, 2009, 10:34:32 pm
Isn't it a little early for him to be trying snatch the 'change/Washington outsider' mantle from Obama?
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