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1  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 22, 2013, 03:49:02 pm

What the heck ever happened to the BNP? You'd think they'd be all over the press/surging in the polls in the wake of this.

They collapsed due to internal problems. It's quite common on the fringes, everyone wants to leads and that's getting bloody.

Don't be shocked to see UKIP start playing with fire over this though. They've been known to do similar.
2  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 22, 2013, 01:43:45 pm
Just watched the ITV report. They reporter said that it was "the day Baghdad style violence came to London".

I HATE THE MEDIA.
3  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 22, 2013, 01:23:52 pm
Any major Islam-bashing started yet? I'm sure the Heil will be working on their front page right now.

The idiotic ignorant folk who belong to the English Defense League will be having a field day. A couple of people on my Fb have already started the Islam bashing.

I'm unfollowing anyone I see spouting bigotry. Usual procedure.
4  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 22, 2013, 01:08:51 pm
Any major Islam-bashing started yet? I'm sure the Heil will be working on their front page right now.
5  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 22, 2013, 01:04:15 pm
Muslims on Twitter unhappy with how media are perjuring the phrase "Allahu Akbar". And it's not even confirmed that it was said.
6  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 22, 2013, 12:52:34 pm
ITV News have just shown a clip of one of the attackers talking to the public after they've killed the guy in the street. Blood soaked hands and meat cleavers in hand with the dead man in the background - i presume the police shot at them afterwards. Just barbaric in broad daylight outside of a primary school. Disgusting.

ITV thought it was tasteful to air that at 6pm, huh?

I only saw BBC at 6, they didn't have it, but I imagine they wouldn't at that time considering how fast this is progressing.

EDIT: I've just seen a screenshot. Surely that's not okay to air?
7  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 22, 2013, 11:44:55 am
Thoughts have to go out to the poor bloke.
8  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 22, 2013, 06:16:04 am
This exchange was retweeted by Leeds Labour yesterday. Charming.

9  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: France General Discussion II: Living under Marxism on: May 21, 2013, 12:42:10 pm
An elderly anti-gay activist appears to have shot himself in the head at Notre Dame. His last blog entry seemed to hold out hope that the 'Islamists' would repeal the law when they were 'in power.'

Oh my.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Do comedians like Bill Maher hurt Democrats with rural/white voters? on: May 21, 2013, 10:43:42 am
It's the whole 'liberal New York elite' thing that Palin and similar love to bash.
11  General Politics / Individual Politics / 2011 French Socialist primary on: May 21, 2013, 09:09:29 am
Discuss.


My choice hasn't changed - Montebourg in the first round, Hollande in the run-off.
12  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 21, 2013, 06:45:05 am
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/may/21/tebbit-gay-marriage-lesbian-queen

And these people wonder what makes them "Swivel-eyed".

And a new twist in loongate:
http://metro.co.uk/2013/05/21/jeremy-paxman-ive-heard-senior-tories-call-activists-swivel-eyed-loons-3803270/
13  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Were Thatcher & Churchill more correct than they could have imagined? on: May 20, 2013, 10:11:41 pm
No.
14  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 20, 2013, 10:10:28 pm
Labour MPs who voted for the Loughton amendment were apparently:

Joe Benton (Bootle), Rosie Cooper (West Lancashire), David Crausby (Bolton North East), Jim Dobbin (Heywood & Middleton), Frank Field (Birkenhead), Mary Glindon (Tyneside North), Paul Murphy (Torfaen), Yasmin Qureshi (Bolton South East).

At least one name on that list is... amusing. Anyways, I think all but Field (a very conservative Anglican) and Qureshi are Catholics. Murphy is actually a Papal Knight. Notable geographical concentration in the North West, but I repeat myself.

And Frank doesn't half love getting on his high horse about broken families.

Being a 70-year-old bachelor really qualifies you as an expert on these matters apparently.
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Australia - 14 September 2013 on: May 20, 2013, 09:56:37 pm
Chances that Abbott pulls an Akin?

Although, I guess if it was coming, he's had like 3 1/2 years now...
16  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 20, 2013, 06:56:23 pm
According to the last YouGov poll and the seat Calculator, Labour would have a majority of 116 and the LibDems would be down to the same levels they had after the 1987 Election when they were the SDP-Liberal Alliance.

The following LibDems would lose their seats:

Robert Smith
Alan Reid
Simon Hughes
John Hemming
Alan Beith
David Ward
Sarah Teather
Stephen Williams
Gordon Birtwistle
John Thurso
Julian Huppert
Jenny Willott
Mark Hunter
Duncan Hames
Dan Rogerson
Annette Brooke
Jo Swinson
Stephen Lloyd
Mike Thornton
Michael Crockart
Ming Campbell
Malcolm Bruce
Lynne Featherstone
Danny Alexander
Greg Mulholland
John Leech
Simon Wright
Ian Swales
Lorely Burt
David Heath
Stephen Gilbert
Andrew George
Paul Burstow
Jeremy Browne
Tessa Munt

That would be quite a brutal massacre.


Using a UNS calculator to predict a 15% fall for the Liberals is about as useful as a chocolate teapot.

If the Tories fall far enough, they'll still come out in 2015 with 40ish - wounded with any mandate to be in a coalition lost, but not dead.
17  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 20, 2013, 03:09:53 pm
The PM's sent out this email to all members. Christ, he's worried.

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Dear XXXXXXX,

After the news this weekend, I wanted to write a personal note to members of our Party.

I’ve been a member of the Conservative Party for 25 years. Some time after I joined I became Chairman of my local branch and was one of the volunteers dedicated to getting Conservatives elected to the local council. Since then I have met thousands and thousands of party members. We’ve pounded pavements together, canvassed together and sat in make-shift campaign headquarters together, from village halls to front rooms. We have been together through good times and bad. This is more than a working relationship; it is a deep and lasting friendship.

Ours is a companionship underpinned by what we believe: that everyone should be able to get on in life if they’re willing to work hard; that we look after those who cannot help themselves; that it’s family and community and country that matter; that a dose of common sense is worth more than a ton of dry political theory; that Britain is a great and proud nation that can be greater still.

Above all, we Conservatives believe you change things not by criticising from your armchair but by getting out and doing. Across the country, at charity events and voluntary organisations, you will find people from our Party quietly doing their bit. Time and again, Conservative activists like you stand for duty, decency and civic pride.

That’s why I am proud to lead this party. I am proud of what you do. And I would never have around me those who sneered or thought otherwise. We are a team, from the parish council to the local association to Parliament, and I never forget it.

Does that mean we will agree on everything? Of course not. The Conservative Party has always been a broad church – one which contains different views and opinions – and we must remain so today. But there is also much we must do together. We can shout from the roof-tops about how far we’ve already come. The deficit has been cut by a third. We’ve seen 1.25 million new jobs created in our private sector. 24 million working people have had their income tax cut.

And we can be clear about where we are going, too. We are engaged in a great fight to rebalance our economy, to bring excellence back to our schools, to fix the welfare system. And yes, we have a policy on Europe that is right for our country. Amid all the debate, remember this: it is our Party that has committed to an in-out referendum on Europe by the end of 2017. Not Labour, not the Liberal Democrats, but the Conservatives who are committed to giving the British people their say.

So to those reading this, here is my message: there will always be criticism from the sidelines. But we must remember what this Party has always been about: acting in the national interest. Our task today is to clear up Labour’s mess and make Britain stand tall again.

We have a job to do for our country – and we must do it together.
18  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 20, 2013, 03:00:06 pm
Survation poll:

Lab - 35%
Con - 24% (-5)
UKIP - 22% (+6)
Lib Dems - 11%

According to Electoral Calculus, UKIP would actually win a seat on this (Camborne and Redruth apparently).... Survation is not the most experienced pollster though.

19  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Hash presents: Recent International Electoral History as Told by GIFs on: May 20, 2013, 11:06:35 am
2008 Democratic primary!

Greece's 2012 election clusterf**k!
20  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 19, 2013, 09:56:56 pm
http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2013/05/19/what-focus-groups-say-about-ed-miliband/

Interesting.
21  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The Big Bad Swedish Politics & News Thread on: May 19, 2013, 12:38:18 pm
What are approvals of the leaders like? Preferred PM?
22  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 19, 2013, 09:05:17 am
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David Cameron has raised the possibility that he could quit the Coalition before 2015 for the first time in public.

Speaking to Total Politics magazine, the Prime Minister said that, should the Conservative manifesto not be carried out, he was ready to do whatever was needed to rectify that.

http://www.politicshome.com/uk/story/34889/
23  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 16, 2013, 06:29:05 pm

I thought it was England who had the hooligans, not the Scots.  Or is that only in football since there isn't anything to get excited about in Socttish football. Tongue

Not so much that as this being what happens when you declare yourself the Heir to Thatcher, and then go north of the border.
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK local by-elections 2013 on: May 16, 2013, 05:57:44 pm
UKIP gain from Labour in Rotherham. Part of John Healey's Wentworth constituency...

Although, if you're reading this thread, I'm sure none of need us reminding of some of the funny business from Rotherham council...
25  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: May 16, 2013, 05:49:54 pm

God bless Scotland.
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