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26  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Supreme Court Issues Ruling On Same Sex Marriage Legalizing Marriage Nat. on: June 27, 2015, 07:01:27 pm
You and the pro-SSM crowd advocate the destruction of religious liberty which must be preserved.

Huh??

"Love thy neighbor" implies standing up for rights for my neighbor when those rights when exercised do humanity no harm.

Sure, child sexual abuse is horrible, and I would report that to law enforcement on principle.

Same-sex marriage? Harmless.

...Mainstream gays and lesbians, the ones who want to live normally as possible. won on this issue of civil rights because they conducted themselves honorably. They separated themselves from the perverts who abuse children for sick gratification.

Have you ever considered that God made some people homosexual?
27  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Supreme Court Issues Ruling On Same Sex Marriage Legalizing Marriage Nat. on: June 27, 2015, 08:00:34 am
This issue is not settled. 4-3 Traditional marriage wins because the advocates of marriage supremacy (gay marriage) have no honor in recusing over conflict of interest.

Incorrect.

Absolutely correct.

 
This issue is not settled. 4-3 Traditional marriage wins because the advocates of marriage supremacy (gay marriage) have no honor in recusing over conflict of interest.

In that case the vote is 1-0 in favor of marriage equality as everyone besides Kagan has had a heterosexual marriage, creating a conflict of interest.


Nope. It's 4-3 Kagan and Ginsberg performed gay weddings. Marriage equality is one man one woman. You and the pro-SSM crowd advocate the destruction of religious liberty which must be preserved.

I don't care what you think.

We won, you lost. That's all that matters to me. Go cry about it.

You haven't won yet. This case can still be reconsidered and congress can also still act.

Stare decisis prevails. For the next year and a half, the President has a veto and will use it against some Congressional measure to make 'protection of traditional marriage' even a state option. Should a Democrat be elected President then the veto remains.

The anti-SSM cause will depend upon a cultural shift as profound as the 'born-again' movement of the 1970s that led to the 'conservative' trend of the 1980s. Don't count on any such cultural shift.  What you consider the Left in America isn't outrageous enough to prompt a secession from within. Add to that, demographic trends do not favor the Hard Right. America is becoming less white, less Christian, more secular, and less reactionary.

America is growing up about homosexuality. Homosexuals now say that they want children and that they want to keep the filthy hands of perverts off their children and are with the majority.  I will be delighted to insist that gays and lesbians make their words true.
28  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: History of the legalization of same-sex marriage in America on: June 26, 2015, 07:49:53 pm
Three contiguous counties.
29  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What will be the next big social issue? on: June 26, 2015, 07:47:43 pm
POVERTY

It has been the Third Rail of American politics for 35 years. It hurts too many people.
30  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: History of the legalization of same-sex marriage in America on: June 26, 2015, 07:43:35 pm
I just heard from my parents that 3 counties in Texas are giving marriage licenses. Paint it white.

Find an actual article. Your parents are not considered to be a credible source here.

Even if the three counties are Bexar, Dallas, and Harris Counties that leaves huge tracts of Texas 'free' of same-sex marriage. 
31  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: June 26, 2015, 07:39:46 pm


Pushing the edge might get your post deleted, so it will be lost in cyberspace, rather than stay for all to savor for posterity as it were (the death points being a side issue). You can make your point within the rules. Heck I just did, I think, positing that I think CCSF is probably lying based on the evidence.

Okay, that's it. I'll ask one final time, how can I prove to you that I am gay? my name? something from a long time ago that has me stating that I'm gay?  Just tell me now.

P.S. Don't serve on a jury.

Contempt for women?

Extreme, put-on machismo often suggests homosexuality. Such often comes with contempt for femininity.
32  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Supreme Court Issues Ruling On Same Sex Marriage Legalizing Marriage Nat. on: June 26, 2015, 07:34:37 pm
U.S. is finished Sad
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Anyway, it's definitely going to become an issue in the campaign in that candidates will have to pledge to nominate only those that will strike down gay marriage and Obamacare. Of course, the vast majority of those people are impossible to confirm, but the base won't care.

Both losing propositions for 2016.
33  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: June 26, 2015, 04:53:13 pm
The Supreme Court of the country formerly known as the United States of America has overruled God, usurped their authority as impartial jurists, and rewrote three laws this week to match with their ideological crusade.

There is a country in which the political order effectively faces the veto of Almighty God, at least as understood by some religious experts, on all  political issues. That country is the Islamic Republic of Iran. If you are a Christian, then you worship that God Allah.   

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It is APPALLING that two justices who are ACTIVELY supporters of the entirety of the gay agenda, and have PERFORMED same-sex weddings, were able to cast a vote today.

There are two 'gay' agendas. One is the perverse agenda of NAMBLA and its female equivalent -- the sorts of people who think themselves entitled to mess up the lives of children for their own sick indulgence. The other, mainstream gays and lesbians, are either men capable only of loving men or women capable only of loving women. Those innocuous people align with straight people on the rights of children to avoid becoming prey of perverts.  

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There is no hope - it is all over. We no longer have a republic, or even a democracy. We are ruled by black-robed ideological radicals, with support from corporate America, Hollywood, and the "news" media.


Same-sex marriage is now as mainstream as child sexual abuse has become uniformly reviled. Corporate America has decided, as is its prerogative, that SSM is good for business. The entertainment media are what they are -- a relatively-liberal bastion. Loud FoX "News" condemns the ruling.
 
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I'm afraid that very soon, they will soon go after the churches and start imposing penalties on those who refuse to perform unions they have a moral disagreement with. Justice  Alito warned of pending vilification.

Religious congregations still have the right to refuse to perform any marriage that the religious hierarchy considers unsuitable, including interfatith and even interracial marriages.
34  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: June 26, 2015, 03:07:11 pm
What's sad is that I wish this had been a 9-0 decision either for or against. It would have had more clarity. Imagine a John McCain appointed court. No Sotomayor and no Kagan, and today might have been a 6-3 against gay marriage decision.

Perhaps, but I imagine Souter and Stevens don't retire if a Republican is president.

Besides, what is to say that John McCain would still be President?  He could have easily been a one-term President had he handled the economic meltdown of 2007-2009 badly.
35  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: History of the legalization of same-sex marriage in America on: June 26, 2015, 03:03:10 pm
Nothing definitive on North Dakota.


 
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Though no gay couples had stopped by her office as of 11 a.m. Friday, Burleigh County Recorder Debbie Kroshus said she would issue a marriage license to any who came in seeking one.

"The Supreme Court ruled," she said. "We're ready."

A ballot measure approved by 73 percent of voters in 2004 added a provision in the North Dakota Constitution declaring marriage as being between one man and one woman. The justices' 5-4 ruling on Friday means that North Dakota and a dozen other states with gay marriage bans will have to stop enforcing them.

Couples in Burleigh County will have to wait a few weeks, however, for Kroshus to perform their ceremonies. Her wedding appointment schedule is booked through July 9, she said.

Those with someone else in mind can get married any time.

"There's no waiting period in North Dakota," she said. "If they have someone to officiate the ceremony, they could get married today."

http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/north-dakota-gay-marriage-ban-void-following-supreme-court-ruling/article_8edc37fb-c693-5105-831c-7a37e4167dc1.html





States with full legalization of SSM as of 1 May, 2014 (white)
States getting full legalization of SSM in October 2014
States getting full legalization of SSM in November 2014
States getting full legalization of SSM in January 2015
States getting full legalization of SSM in February 2015
Obergfell v. Hedges, 26 June 2015 or interpretation that the ruling applies to the state
Method of legalization of SSM:  



Method of legalization of SSM

resulting from a state court decision invalidating an SSM ban
resulting from state legislation
resulting from the decision of the DC Council
resulting from a statewide initiative or referendum

resulting from a decision by the US Supreme Court
resulting from a decision by a federal court subsidiary to the US Supreme Court
Obergfell v. Hodges -- specific mention of states or interpretation by the state that the ruling applies to it.

36  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws on: June 26, 2015, 02:50:55 pm


Nothing definitive yet on North Dakota.

Now there is.

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Though no gay couples had stopped by her office as of 11 a.m. Friday, Burleigh County Recorder Debbie Kroshus said she would issue a marriage license to any who came in seeking one.

"The Supreme Court ruled," she said. "We're ready."

... The justices' 5-4 ruling on Friday means that North Dakota and a dozen other states with gay marriage bans will have to stop enforcing them.

Couples in Burleigh County will have to wait a few weeks, however, for Kroshus to perform their ceremonies. Her wedding appointment schedule is booked through July 9, she said.

Those with someone else in mind can get married any time.

"There's no waiting period in North Dakota," she said. "If they have someone to officiate the ceremony, they could get married today."

http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/north-dakota-gay-marriage-ban-void-following-supreme-court-ruling/article_8edc37fb-c693-5105-831c-7a37e4167dc1.html
37  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: ...And now all 12/15 of the remaining states. on: June 26, 2015, 01:48:16 pm
More caution gives us more information and leaves us with fewer errors.

This will all be decided quickly.

At the least, same-sex marriages contracted in one state are valid in all of them by law.
38  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws on: June 26, 2015, 01:44:18 pm
So those 4 states are still holding out? They'll need something bigger to get them to comply.

Louisiana -- outright resistance.
Mississippi -- request for clarification.
North Dakota -- no news.
Texas -- ambiguity.

Then there were four three. North Dakota seems to give no resistance to SSM. I was slow to get the news from North Dakota.




White -- SSM equality by law.
Yellow -- toss-up

 

States in white (and DC) already have legalized same-sex marriages. Other states are coded by district in those in which SSM will not have been permanently legalized as of 10 AM EST on 26 June 2015:







Status of SSM in Puerto Rico, the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, or the Northern Marianas not shown.

5th circuit


All states holding out on SSM are in the Fifth Circuit.


Here are the numbers:

Compiled results are listed below. The headers for each column are: State/ Support Legalising Gay Marriage/ Oppose Legalising Gay Marriage/ Net Support.

MA    71    19    +52
VT    71    20    +51
RI    68    20    +48
NH    63    24    +39
CT    61    26    +35
NY    61    27    +34
HI    59    26    +33
CA    58    31    +27
ME    63    37    +26
NM    57    32    +25
WA    57    32    +25
NV    55    31    +24
DE    54    31    +23
NJ    54    32    +22
OR    56    35    +21
IA    53    33    +20
IL    53    33    +20
CO    54    35    +19
MN    52    34    +18
AK    50    36    +14
WI    51    37    +14
MD    48    36    +12
PA    49    38    +11
ND    48    39    +9
MI    47    39    +8
AZ    47    40    +7
VA    47    40    +7
FL    46    40    +6
OH    45    40    +5
MT    45    41    +4
KS    44    41    +3
SD    43    43    0
IN    43    45    -2
NC    42    46    -4
MO    41    47    -6
NE    40    46    -6

LA    39    46    -7
WV    39    48    -9
GA    37    47    -10
SC    37    47    -10
KY    38    50    -12

TX    37    50    -13
OK    37    51    -14
WY    33    50    -17
ID    33    51    -18
AR    32    54    -22
UT    34    56    -22

MS    29    56    -27
TN    29    58    -29
AL    28    60    -32


US    48    39    +9












39  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: History of the legalization of same-sex marriage in America on: June 26, 2015, 01:42:14 pm
Wait, it's still illegal in those remaining states?

In Mississippi the AG insists upon a clarification on whether the law applies to Mississippi (5th Circuit Court) as it does in the Sixth.

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JACKSON, Miss. -- Mississippi Attorney General Jim Hood said Friday that same-sex marriages cannot take place immediately in the state.

Couples started applying for marriage licenses within moments of a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that legalizes gay marriage nationwide.

But, Hood, a Democrat, said a federal appeals court in New Orleans must first lift a hold on a gay-marriage court case from Mississippi. He said he doesn't know how long that could take.

Hood's statement created confusion — and frustration — among some same-sex couples who stood in line at circuit clerks' offices to apply for licenses.

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/06/mississippi_no_gay_marriage.html#incart_related_stories

Same effect, for the time, as outright resistance.

Nothing definitive about North Dakota or Texas... resistance in Louisiana... questions remaining in Mississippi.

40  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws on: June 26, 2015, 01:27:09 pm
The first couple to receive a same-sex wedding license after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized gay unions was married Friday by the same judge who struck down the ban in Arkansas last year.

Earnie Matheson, 65, and Tony Chiaro, 73, showed up at the Pulaski County Courthouse about an hour after the U.S. Supreme Court released its decision. They applied for and were granted a license at the clerk's office while reporters hovered around them and then embarked back into the rotunda to find someone to conduct the ceremony and wed them.

http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2015/jun/26/pulaski-county-clerk-will-review-marriage-opinion-/



White -- SSM equality by law.
Yellow -- toss-up

 

States in white (and DC) already have legalized same-sex marriages. Other states are coded by district in those in which SSM will not have been permanently legalized as of 10 AM EST on 26 June 2015:







Status of SSM in Puerto Rico, the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, or the Northern Marianas not shown.

5th circuit
8th circuit




Colors for districts have no other political significance.

DC and all states within the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 7th, 9th, 10th, and 11th appellate districts have legalized SSM.


Here are the numbers:

Compiled results are listed below. The headers for each column are: State/ Support Legalising Gay Marriage/ Oppose Legalising Gay Marriage/ Net Support.

MA    71    19    +52
VT    71    20    +51
RI    68    20    +48
NH    63    24    +39
CT    61    26    +35
NY    61    27    +34
HI    59    26    +33
CA    58    31    +27
ME    63    37    +26
NM    57    32    +25
WA    57    32    +25
NV    55    31    +24
DE    54    31    +23
NJ    54    32    +22
OR    56    35    +21
IA    53    33    +20
IL    53    33    +20
CO    54    35    +19
MN    52    34    +18
AK    50    36    +14
WI    51    37    +14
MD    48    36    +12
PA    49    38    +11

ND    48    39    +9
MI    47    39    +8
AZ    47    40    +7
VA    47    40    +7
FL    46    40    +6
OH    45    40    +5
MT    45    41    +4
KS    44    41    +3
SD    43    43    0
IN    43    45    -2
NC    42    46    -4
MO    41    47    -6
NE    40    46    -6

LA    39    46    -7
WV    39    48    -9
GA    37    47    -10
SC    37    47    -10
KY    38    50    -12

TX    37    50    -13
OK    37    51    -14
WY    33    50    -17
ID    33    51    -18
AR    32    54    -22
UT    34    56    -22

MS    29    56    -27
TN    29    58    -29
AL    28    60    -32


US    48    39    +9












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41  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: History of the legalization of same-sex marriage in America on: June 26, 2015, 01:23:17 pm
Nothing definitive on North Dakota. The Governor and Attorney General of Louisiana officially resist SSM.

Arkansas?

It's happening. Two women or two men can exchange diamond wedding rings in the Diamond State.

The first couple to receive a same-sex wedding license after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized gay unions was married Friday by the same judge who struck down the ban in Arkansas last year.

Earnie Matheson, 65, and Tony Chiaro, 73, showed up at the Pulaski County Courthouse about an hour after the U.S. Supreme Court released its decision. They applied for and were granted a license at the clerk's office while reporters hovered around them and then embarked back into the rotunda to find someone to conduct the ceremony and wed them.

http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2015/jun/26/pulaski-county-clerk-will-review-marriage-opinion-/






States with full legalization of SSM as of 1 May, 2014 (white)
States getting full legalization of SSM in October 2014
States getting full legalization of SSM in November 2014
States getting full legalization of SSM in January 2015
States getting full legalization of SSM in February 2015
Obergfell v. Hedges, 26 June 2015 or interpretation that the ruling applies to the state
Method of legalization of SSM:  



Method of legalization of SSM

resulting from a state court decision invalidating an SSM ban
resulting from state legislation
resulting from the decision of the DC Council
resulting from a statewide initiative or referendum

resulting from a decision by the US Supreme Court
resulting from a decision by a federal court subsidiary to the US Supreme Court
Obergfell v. Hodges -- specific mention of states or interpretation by the state that the ruling applies to it.

42  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: June 26, 2015, 01:16:53 pm
   Any ideas on what this ruling will mean for churches and other religious organization that aren't accepting of this?

Nothing.

Churches can still legally refuse to perform interracial marriages. Of course, somebody will perform the marriage. No couple needs to get married at the "Church of Adolf Hitler" when there are so many alternatives, including court houses.  
43  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws on: June 26, 2015, 01:11:05 pm
Wait, it's not legal in all 50 states?

The US Supreme Court will likely smack down this official resistance. The Governor and the Attorney General seem to believe that Obergfell vs. Hodges does not apply to Louisiana.  That is why I am cautious about blanking states.

Nothing definitive yet on North Dakota.

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Louisiana Attorney General Buddy Caldwell said his office is not immediately enforcing the Supreme Court's decision to legalize gay marriage.

In a statement issued on the landmark ruling that was issued Friday (June 26) morning, Caldwell expressed disappointment in the 5-4 decision, saying it "overturns the will of the people of Louisiana."

"I am extremely disappointed by this decision. It fails to respect traditional marriage as defined by Louisiana voters, and is yet another example of the federal government intrusion into what should be a state issue," Caldwell said.

The statement says his office "has found nothing in today's decision that makes the Court's order effective immediately.

"Therefore, there is not yet a legal requirement for officials to issue marriage licenses or perform marriages for same-sex couples in Louisiana. The Attorney General's Office will be watching for the Court to issue a mandate or order making today's decision final and effective and will issue a statement when that occurs."

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/06/gay_marriage_louisiana_attorne.html#incart_related_stories

(Most of the material is official statements by public officials, so please do not consider such a copyright violation).

The Governor:

Quote
Less than two hours after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized gay marriage nationwide, Gov. Bobby Jindal was citing the decision to try and raise money for his presidential campaign.

"Marriage is between a man and a woman was established by God, and no earthly court can alter that," Jindal's fundraising email said, just before a link to a page where people can donate money to Jindal's presidential campaign.

"The government should not force those who have sincerely held religious beliefs about marriage to participate in these ceremonies," Jindal said in the email letter, "I will never stop fighting for religious liberty. Will you join me?"




http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/06/bobby_jindal_gay_marriage_supr.html#incart_story_package

(Most of the material is official statements by public officials, so please do not consider such a copyright violation).
44  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: June 26, 2015, 12:41:56 pm
I could get nothing definitive about North Dakota. There is official resistance in Louisiana, so getting a same-sex marriage in The Big Easy (or anywhere else in Louisiana) won't be so  easy as elsewhere.  



Quote
Louisiana Attorney General Buddy Caldwell said his office is not immediately enforcing the Supreme Court's decision to legalize gay marriage.

In a statement issued on the landmark ruling that was issued Friday (June 26) morning, Caldwell expressed disappointment in the 5-4 decision, saying it "overturns the will of the people of Louisiana."

"I am extremely disappointed by this decision. It fails to respect traditional marriage as defined by Louisiana voters, and is yet another example of the federal government intrusion into what should be a state issue," Caldwell said.

The statement says his office "has found nothing in today's decision that makes the Court's order effective immediately.

"Therefore, there is not yet a legal requirement for officials to issue marriage licenses or perform marriages for same-sex couples in Louisiana. The Attorney General's Office will be watching for the Court to issue a mandate or order making today's decision final and effective and will issue a statement when that occurs."

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/06/gay_marriage_louisiana_attorne.html#incart_related_stories

(Most of the material is official statements by public officials, so please do not consider such a copyright violation).

The Governor:

Quote
Less than two hours after the U.S. Supreme Court legalized gay marriage nationwide, Gov. Bobby Jindal was citing the decision to try and raise money for his presidential campaign.

"Marriage is between a man and a woman was established by God, and no earthly court can alter that," Jindal's fundraising email said, just before a link to a page where people can donate money to Jindal's presidential campaign.

"The government should not force those who have sincerely held religious beliefs about marriage to participate in these ceremonies," Jindal said in the email letter, "I will never stop fighting for religious liberty. Will you join me?"




http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/06/bobby_jindal_gay_marriage_supr.html#incart_story_package

(Most of the material is official statements by public officials, so please do not consider such a copyright violation).
45  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: June 26, 2015, 11:57:37 am
South Dakota:

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) — A U.S. Supreme Court opinion that declared same-sex marriage legal nationwide is effective in South Dakota immediately and it's up to each county in the state to begin issuing marriage licenses, the state attorney general said Friday.

Attorney General Marty Jackley said counties can begin issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples as soon as they are able, but acknowledged issues like the size of a county and the number applications could delay the process.

"We are saying it's effective immediately but with that recognition that we will work with local jurisdictions to provide a reasonable period of time to implement a fairly significant rule and change in law," Jackley said.

http://siouxcityjournal.com/ap/state/jackley-up-to-counties-to-issue-gay-marriage-licenses/article_2aa994ca-28cc-57cc-85d7-8359e9a17ec9.html
46  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking: Supreme Court rules SSM a legal right on: June 26, 2015, 11:47:53 am
Nebraska, too.

Nebraska Gov. Pete Ricketts and Attorney General Doug Peterson said Friday that the State of Nebraska would follow the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling.

In a statement, Ricketts said: “The U.S. Supreme Court has spoken and ruled state same-sex marriage bans to be unconstitutional. While 70 percent of Nebraskans approved our amendment to our state constitution that defined marriage as only between a man and a woman, the highest court in the land has ruled states cannot place limits on marriage between same-sex couples. We will follow the law and respect the ruling outlined by the court.”

http://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/douglas-lancaster-counties-begin-issuing-same-sex-marriage-licenses/article_74f43388-1ab6-11e5-987c

Applications for same-sex marriages in Douglas (largely Omaha) and Lancaster (heavily Lincoln) have been accepted.
47  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws on: June 26, 2015, 11:47:11 am
Nebraska, too, recognizes Obergfell v. Hodges decisive.

Quote
Nebraska Gov. Pete Ricketts and Attorney General Doug Peterson said Friday that the State of Nebraska would follow the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling.

In a statement, Ricketts said: “The U.S. Supreme Court has spoken and ruled state same-sex marriage bans to be unconstitutional. While 70 percent of Nebraskans approved our amendment to our state constitution that defined marriage as only between a man and a woman, the highest court in the land has ruled states cannot place limits on marriage between same-sex couples. We will follow the law and respect the ruling outlined by the court.”

http://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/douglas-lancaster-counties-begin-issuing-same-sex-marriage-licenses/article_74f43388-1ab6-11e5-987c

Likewise, South Dakota:

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) — A U.S. Supreme Court opinion that declared same-sex marriage legal nationwide is effective in South Dakota immediately and it's up to each county in the state to begin issuing marriage licenses, the state attorney general said Friday.

Attorney General Marty Jackley said counties can begin issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples as soon as they are able, but acknowledged issues like the size of a county and the number applications could delay the process.

"We are saying it's effective immediately but with that recognition that we will work with local jurisdictions to provide a reasonable period of time to implement a fairly significant rule and change in law," Jackley said.

http://siouxcityjournal.com/ap/state/jackley-up-to-counties-to-issue-gay-marriage-licenses/article_2aa994ca-28cc-57cc-85d7-8359e9a17ec9.html



White -- SSM equality by law.
Yellow -- toss-up

 

States in white (and DC) already have legalized same-sex marriages. Other states are coded by district in those in which SSM will not have been permanently legalized as of 10 AM EST on 26 June 2015:







Status of SSM in Puerto Rico, the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, or the Northern Marianas not shown.

5th circuit
8th circuit




Colors for districts have no other political significance.

DC and all states within the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 7th, 9th, 10th, and 11th appellate districts have legalized SSM.


Here are the numbers:

Compiled results are listed below. The headers for each column are: State/ Support Legalising Gay Marriage/ Oppose Legalising Gay Marriage/ Net Support.

MA    71    19    +52
VT    71    20    +51
RI    68    20    +48
NH    63    24    +39
CT    61    26    +35
NY    61    27    +34
HI    59    26    +33
CA    58    31    +27
ME    63    37    +26
NM    57    32    +25
WA    57    32    +25
NV    55    31    +24
DE    54    31    +23
NJ    54    32    +22
OR    56    35    +21
IA    53    33    +20
IL    53    33    +20
CO    54    35    +19
MN    52    34    +18
AK    50    36    +14
WI    51    37    +14
MD    48    36    +12
PA    49    38    +11

ND    48    39    +9
MI    47    39    +8
AZ    47    40    +7
VA    47    40    +7
FL    46    40    +6
OH    45    40    +5
MT    45    41    +4
KS    44    41    +3
SD    43    43    0
IN    43    45    -2
NC    42    46    -4
MO    41    47    -6
NE    40    46    -6

LA    39    46    -7
WV    39    48    -9
GA    37    47    -10
SC    37    47    -10
KY    38    50    -12

TX    37    50    -13
OK    37    51    -14
WY    33    50    -17
ID    33    51    -18

AR    32    54    -22
UT    34    56    -22
MS    29    56    -27
TN    29    58    -29
AL    28    60    -32


US    48    39    +9











48  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: History of the legalization of same-sex marriage in America on: June 26, 2015, 11:39:39 am
Nebraska, too.

Nebraska Gov. Pete Ricketts and Attorney General Doug Peterson said Friday that the State of Nebraska would follow the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling.

In a statement, Ricketts said: “The U.S. Supreme Court has spoken and ruled state same-sex marriage bans to be unconstitutional. While 70 percent of Nebraskans approved our amendment to our state constitution that defined marriage as only between a man and a woman, the highest court in the land has ruled states cannot place limits on marriage between same-sex couples. We will follow the law and respect the ruling outlined by the court.”

http://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/douglas-lancaster-counties-begin-issuing-same-sex-marriage-licenses/article_74f43388-1ab6-11e5-987c

Marriage licenses for Douglas (largely Omaha) and Lancaster (capital seat, Lincoln).

South Dakota:

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (AP) — A U.S. Supreme Court opinion that declared same-sex marriage legal nationwide is effective in South Dakota immediately and it's up to each county in the state to begin issuing marriage licenses, the state attorney general said Friday.

Attorney General Marty Jackley said counties can begin issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples as soon as they are able, but acknowledged issues like the size of a county and the number applications could delay the process.

"We are saying it's effective immediately but with that recognition that we will work with local jurisdictions to provide a reasonable period of time to implement a fairly significant rule and change in law," Jackley said.

http://siouxcityjournal.com/ap/state/jackley-up-to-counties-to-issue-gay-marriage-licenses/article_2aa994ca-28cc-57cc-85d7-8359e9a17ec9.html  





States with full legalization of SSM as of 1 May, 2014 (white)
States getting full legalization of SSM in October 2014
States getting full legalization of SSM in November 2014
States getting full legalization of SSM in January 2015
States getting full legalization of SSM in February 2015
Obergfell v. Hedges, 26 June 2015 or interpretation that the ruling applies to the state
Method of legalization of SSM:  



Method of legalization of SSM

resulting from a state court decision invalidating an SSM ban
resulting from state legislation
resulting from the decision of the DC Council
resulting from a statewide initiative or referendum

resulting from a decision by the US Supreme Court
resulting from a decision by a federal court subsidiary to the US Supreme Court
Obergfell v. Hodges -- specific mention of states or interpretation by the state that the ruling applies to it.

Barring the complete legalization of SSM in all states in which it is still banned, most likely through a Supreme Court decision applicable to all states, I will not update this map until the end of the month. There's another thread for legalization of same-sex marriage, and in it one can post in far more detail -- more than is welcome here.



49  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws on: June 26, 2015, 11:31:27 am
Pbrower, I can tell you that both North Dakota and Arkansas will follow the Supreme Court.  Can give source if necessary.  So both can be white.

I am checking other states. That's how I got the news on Georgia and Texas.
50  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: History of the legalization of same-sex marriage in America on: June 26, 2015, 11:27:21 am
Georgia concedes.

Georgia’s Council of Probate Judges is prepared. Judge Chase Daughtrey, the group’s president, sends word:

    “The Council of Probate Court Judges is reviewing the 100 plus page opinion regarding same sex marriage and we are in consultation with the Attorney General’s office. A revised marriage license application form will be sent electronically to probate judges statewide via our list serve once the review is complete and we find the opinion immediately legalizes same sex marriage in Georgia.”

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2015/06/26/georgia-democrats-celebrate-same-sex-marriage-ruling/




States with full legalization of SSM as of 1 May, 2014 (white)
States getting full legalization of SSM in October 2014
States getting full legalization of SSM in November 2014
States getting full legalization of SSM in January 2015
States getting full legalization of SSM in February 2015
Obergfell v. Hedges, 26 June 2015 or interpretation that the ruling applies to the state
Method of legalization of SSM:  



Method of legalization of SSM

resulting from a state court decision invalidating an SSM ban
resulting from state legislation
resulting from the decision of the DC Council
resulting from a statewide initiative or referendum

resulting from a decision by the US Supreme Court
resulting from a decision by a federal court subsidiary to the US Supreme Court
Obergfell v. Hodges -- specific mention of states or interpretation by the state that the ruling applies to it.

Barring the complete legalization of SSM in all states in which it is still banned, most likely through a Supreme Court decision applicable to all states, I will not update this map until the end of the month. There's another thread for legalization of same-sex marriage, and in it one can post in far more detail -- more than is welcome here.

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