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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Most interesting and most boring primary candidates by year on: July 21, 2014, 06:32:16 pm
2012:

Republicans: Interesting - Ron Paul, Boring - Tim Pawlenty

2008:

Democrats: Interesting - Mike Gravel, Boring - Chris Dodd
Republicans: Interesting - Ron Paul, Boring - Duncan Hunter

2004:

Democrats: Interesting - Dennis Kucinich, Boring - Bob Graham

2000:

Democrats: Only two major candidates here. Bradley was somewhat more interesting than Gore.
Republicans: Interesting - Alan Keyes, Boring - Orrin Hatch

1996:

Republicans: Interesting - Pat Buchanan, Boring - Lamar Alexander

1992:

Democrats: Interesting - Jerry Brown, Boring - Tom Harkin
Republicans: Buchanan was more interesting than H. W. Bush.

1988:

Democrats: Interesting - Jim Traficant, Boring - Bruce Babbitt
Republicans: Interesting - Pat Robertson, Boring - Paul Laxalt


Maybe I'll do some more cycles later. But, ironically, my 'interesting' list is rather boring as it consists almost entirely of insurgents, nutters, extremists and loons.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: Marist/NBC: Ties in both IA & NH on: July 17, 2014, 02:45:55 pm
The GOP primaries are going to be an absolute circus.
3  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Battle of the Anglosphere leaders since WWII on: July 17, 2014, 02:37:23 pm
2000 seems to be the only instance on this list.  

It would not be, as, generally speaking, the term 'liberal' is not a synonym for 'left-wing' outside of the U.S, and John Howard is arguably the most right-wing leader of anyone listed here.
4  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Battle of the Anglosphere leaders since WWII on: July 17, 2014, 12:48:09 pm
1945: Harry S. Truman (USA-Democratic) vs. Winston Churchill (UK-Conservative) vs. Mackenzie King (CAN-Liberal) vs. Ben Chifley (AUS-Labor) vs. Peter Fraser (NZ-Labour)

1950: Harry S. Truman (USA-Democratic) vs. Clement Attlee (UK-Labour) vs. Louis St. Laurent (CAN-Liberal) vs. Robert Menzies (AUS-Liberal) vs. Sidney Holland (NZ-National)

1955: Dwight D. Eisenhower (USA-Republican) vs. Anthony Eden (UK-Conservative) vs. Louis St. Laurent (CAN-Liberal) vs. Robert Menzies (AUS-Liberal) vs. Sidney Holland (NZ-National)

1960: Dwight D. Eisenhower (USA-Republican) vs. Harold Macmillan (UK-Conservative) vs. John Diefenbaker (CAN-Progressive Conservative) vs. Robert Menzies (AUS-Liberal) vs. Walter Nash (NZ-Labour)

1965: Lyndon B. Johnson (USA-Democratic) vs. Harold Wilson (UK-Labour) vs. Lester B. Pearson (CAN-Liberal) vs. Robert Menzies (AUS-Liberal) vs. Keith Holyoake (NZ-National)

1970: Richard Nixon (USA-Republican) vs. Edward Heath (UK-Conservative) vs. Pierre Trudeau (CAN-Liberal) vs. John Gorton (AUS-Liberal) vs. Keith Holyoake (NZ-National)

1975: Gerald Ford (USA-Republican) vs. Harold Wilson (UK-Labour) vs. Pierre Trudeau (CAN-Liberal) vs. Gough Whitlam (AUS-Labor) vs. Bill Rowling (NZ-Labour)

1980: Jimmy Carter (USA-Democratic) vs. Margaret Thatcher (UK-Conservative) vs. Pierre Trudeau (CAN-Liberal) vs. Malcolm Fraser (AUS-Liberal) vs. Robert Muldoon (NZ-National)

1985: Ronald Reagan (USA-Republican) vs. Margaret Thatcher (UK-Conservative) vs. Brian Mulroney (CAN-Progressive Conservative) vs. Bob Hawke (AUS-Labor) vs. David Lange (NZ-Labour)

1990: George H. W. Bush (USA-Republican) vs. Margaret Thatcher (UK-Conservative) vs. Brian Mulroney (CAN-Progressive Conservative) vs. Bob Hawke (AUS-Labor) vs. Geoffrey Palmer (NZ-Labour)

1995: Bill Clinton (USA-Democratic) vs. John Major (UK-Conservative) vs. Jean Chretien (CAN-Liberal) vs. Paul Keating (AUS-Labor) vs. Jim Bolger (NZ-National)

2000: Bill Clinton (USA-Democratic) vs. Tony Blair (UK-Labour) vs. Jean Chretien (CAN-Liberal) vs. John Howard (AUS-Liberal) vs. Helen Clark (NZ-Labour)

2005: George W. Bush (USA-Republican) vs. Tony Blair (UK-Labour) vs. Paul Martin (CAN-Liberal) vs. John Howard (AUS-Liberal) vs. Helen Clark (NZ-Labour)

2010: Barack Obama (USA-Democratic) vs. David Cameron (UK-Conservative) vs. Stephen Harper (CAN-Conservative) vs. Julia Gillard (AUS-Labor) vs. John Key (NZ-National)
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Battle of the Anglosphere leaders since WWII on: July 17, 2014, 12:44:05 pm
Who would get your vote in each of these contests?

1945: Harry S. Truman (USA-Democratic) vs. Winston Churchill (UK-Conservative) vs. Mackenzie King (CAN-Liberal) vs. Ben Chifley (AUS-Labor) vs. Peter Fraser (NZ-Labour)

1950: Harry S. Truman (USA-Democratic) vs. Clement Attlee (UK-Labour) vs. Louis St. Laurent (CAN-Liberal) vs. Robert Menzies (AUS-Liberal) vs. Sidney Holland (NZ-National)

1955: Dwight D. Eisenhower (USA-Republican) vs. Anthony Eden (UK-Conservative) vs. Louis St. Laurent (CAN-Liberal) vs. Robert Menzies (AUS-Liberal) vs. Sidney Holland (NZ-National)

1960: Dwight D. Eisenhower (USA-Republican) vs. Harold Macmillan (UK-Conservative) vs. John Diefenbaker (CAN-Progressive Conservative) vs. Robert Menzies (AUS-Liberal) vs. Walter Nash (NZ-Labour)

1965: Lyndon B. Johnson (USA-Democratic) vs. Harold Wilson (UK-Labour) vs. Lester B. Pearson (CAN-Liberal) vs. Robert Menzies (AUS-Liberal) vs. Keith Holyoake (NZ-National)

1970: Richard Nixon (USA-Republican) vs. Edward Heath (UK-Conservative) vs. Pierre Trudeau (CAN-Liberal) vs. John Gorton (AUS-Liberal) vs. Keith Holyoake (NZ-National)

1975: Gerald Ford (USA-Republican) vs. Harold Wilson (UK-Labour) vs. Pierre Trudeau (CAN-Liberal) vs. Gough Whitlam (AUS-Labor) vs. Bill Rowling (NZ-Labour)

1980: Jimmy Carter (USA-Democratic) vs. Margaret Thatcher (UK-Conservative) vs. Pierre Trudeau (CAN-Liberal) vs. Malcolm Fraser (AUS-Liberal) vs. Robert Muldoon (NZ-National)

1985: Ronald Reagan (USA-Republican) vs. Margaret Thatcher (UK-Conservative) vs. Brian Mulroney (CAN-Progressive Conservative) vs. Bob Hawke (AUS-Labor) vs. David Lange (NZ-Labour)

1990: George H. W. Bush (USA-Republican) vs. Margaret Thatcher (UK-Conservative) vs. Brian Mulroney (CAN-Progressive Conservative) vs. Bob Hawke (AUS-Labor) vs. Geoffrey Palmer (NZ-Labour)

1995: Bill Clinton (USA-Democratic) vs. John Major (UK-Conservative) vs. Jean Chretien (CAN-Liberal) vs. Paul Keating (AUS-Labor) vs. Jim Bolger (NZ-National)

2000: Bill Clinton (USA-Democratic) vs. Tony Blair (UK-Labour) vs. Jean Chretien (CAN-Liberal) vs. John Howard (AUS-Liberal) vs. Helen Clark (NZ-Labour)

2005: George W. Bush (USA-Republican) vs. Tony Blair (UK-Labour) vs. Paul Martin (CAN-Liberal) vs. John Howard (AUS-Liberal) vs. Helen Clark (NZ-Labour)

2010: Barack Obama (USA-Democratic) vs. David Cameron (UK-Conservative) vs. Stephen Harper (CAN-Conservative) vs. Julia Gillard (AUS-Labor) vs. John Key (NZ-National)

(The leader in the years in which there were multiple leaders (of the nation in question) is determined by which one was in power the longest during said year.)
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Ask Antonio on: July 15, 2014, 05:51:58 pm
Have you ever seen Countdown?
7  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: July 14, 2014, 04:35:03 pm
Unlike Hague, Ken Clarke is not standing down as an MP.

He strikes me as someone destined to become Father of the House.

Anyway, all of this is terrible news for Ed Miliband, obviously.
8  General Discussion / History / How could the Socialist Party have remained a force in US politics? on: July 09, 2014, 08:27:15 pm
On a national scale it died out slowly after the death of Eugene Debs and the final nail in its coffin was the New Deal (which is somewhat ironic, as the purpose of the New Deal was to uphold the capitalist system).

So, what would have needed to happen differently in the first half of the 20th century for it to remain a force to be reckoned with?
9  General Politics / Book Reviews and Discussion / Re: What Book Are You Currently Reading? on: July 09, 2014, 02:39:26 pm
The Good, the Bad and the Unlikely by Mungo MacCallum. Say what you will about Abbott, Rudd, Gillard etc but next to some of the early Aussie PMs they are saintly.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: I think there is a candidate everyone is forgetting on: July 06, 2014, 01:46:30 pm
Janet Yellen?
11  General Politics / Individual Politics / Worst UK Prime Minister since WWII on: July 05, 2014, 07:44:15 pm
Eden clearly imo. My own (hackish) worst-to-best ranking would be:

1. Eden
2. Douglas-Home (nonentity)
3. Churchill (useless figurehead post-'45)
4. Thatcher
5. Major
6. Cameron
7. Callaghan
8. Brown
9. Heath
10. Blair
11. Macmillan
12. Wilson
13. Attlee
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: I think there is a candidate everyone is forgetting on: July 05, 2014, 01:58:35 pm
Julian Castro?
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Worst President since WWII on: July 04, 2014, 07:49:17 pm
Worst to best:

1. W. Bush
2. Reagan
3. Truman
4. Clinton
5. Nixon
6. H. W. Bush
7. Obama
8. Ford
9. Eisenhower
10. JFK
11. LBJ
12. Carter
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: I think there is a candidate everyone is forgetting on: July 03, 2014, 05:57:42 pm
Tom Wolf?
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: I think there is a candidate everyone is forgetting on: July 03, 2014, 05:51:12 pm
Hillary Clinton?
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Quinnipiac University Poll: Obama worst president since WWII on: July 03, 2014, 01:48:00 pm
Most people aren't students of history. That is a fact that is often forgotten on forums such as this one. There is a pretty good chance that Obama would also top a "Who is the worst President in U.S. history?" poll, and Buchanan probably wouldn't break 3%.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Why did TN swing to Bush in 88? on: July 03, 2014, 01:41:26 pm
Yeah, Mondale was more of an old-school New Dealer and Dukakis was more of a New Left adherent.
18  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Political Quiz List. Are you a Quiz Whiz? on: July 03, 2014, 09:00:40 am
http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=whatsenatorarey


Your Complete Results:

          Barack Obama (100%)         
         Ted Kennedy (Deceased D-MA) (100%)         
         Arlen Spector (D-PA) (86%)         
         John McCain (R-AZ) (58%)         
         Jim DeMint (R-SC) (22%)         
         Strom Thurmond (Deceased D/R SC) (22%)         
         Scott Brown (R-MA) (0%)         
19  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Nebraska/Nevada Senators on: July 03, 2014, 08:56:54 am
All horrible.
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Vice Presidents since WWII on: July 03, 2014, 08:55:52 am
1. Humphrey
2. Mondale
3. Biden
4. Gore
5. Ford
6. LBJ
7. Rockefeller
8. Barkley
9. Bush
10. Nixon
11. Quayle
12. Cheney
21  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: CNN vs. MSNBC vs. Fox News on: July 02, 2014, 11:46:16 am
CNN is an actual news network, so that.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Larger gender gap in a Hillary-Rand match-up? on: July 02, 2014, 11:24:56 am
Pretty much every match-up poll shows a huge gender gap, but this is especially prevalent in the Hillary-Rand polls. Any particular reason for this? Rand is socially conservative, but not rabidly so (by the standards of his party).
23  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who is the best President, of these four? on: July 02, 2014, 07:08:09 am
Carter

LBJ


Obama





Clinton
24  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / OurCampaigns on: July 02, 2014, 07:06:28 am
Anyone know whether it will be back online again? It's a very useful site.
25  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Clive Palmer on: July 02, 2014, 07:05:26 am
Opportunistic populist.
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