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1  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion Thread: mayy lmao on: Today at 10:14:59 am
Shots fired outside Parliament. A police officer apparently stabbed.
2  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion Thread: mayy lmao on: March 21, 2017, 04:03:03 pm
Downing Street is sticking to its line regarding an early election. Apparently some Tory MPs in Cornwall and Devon are terrified of losing their seats. If she changes her mind then it'll have to be within the next two weeks anyway.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What are the meme locations of Atlas? on: March 21, 2017, 03:57:08 pm
PA-13 was perhaps the original one.
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Nicknames for Candidates on: March 21, 2017, 03:54:55 pm
Mittens Romney
5  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion Thread: mayy lmao on: March 21, 2017, 03:23:32 pm
6  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Primus Inter Pares - 2005 Lib Dem Leadership Election (Final Ballot) on: March 21, 2017, 12:44:06 pm
Hughes

If Laws wins then the Lib Dems will be the most right-wing of the three parties.
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK Parliamentary by-elections, 2015-2020 on: March 21, 2017, 12:24:56 pm
George Galloway is running in the by-election; really doesn't help his reputation as a shameless self promoter, and general idiot.

You imply that he cares about that.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK Parliamentary by-elections, 2015-2020 on: March 21, 2017, 11:08:49 am
George Galloway is standing in Manchester Gorton, apparently.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What are you Drinking: St. Patrick's Day Edition on: March 20, 2017, 08:16:46 am
I'm not a great fan of the stuff, but why in the eff isn't Guinness an option in itself?
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Primus Inter Pares - 2005 Europe Referendums on: March 19, 2017, 11:24:09 am
Euro-No
Constitution-No
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Official Trump 1.0 Approval Ratings Thread on: March 18, 2017, 08:10:45 pm
Looks like Trump's negatives are just about synchronized across polling outfits now. What a mandate he has!
Well he did win the election.

Pfft, you know what I mean. An actual mandate is different than just winning. He lost the popular vote by 2%+ and barely squeaked by in FL, PA, WI and MI - states he needed to win.

In an election between two candidates as disliked as Clinton/Trump, just barely winning like Trump is far from a mandate of any kind.

Did Obama have a mandate for Obamacare?

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/us-health-bill

But it still was a good and necessary thing, right? Smiley

Yes, he did. He won by seven points, and his party picked up nine seats in the Senate. As opposed to Trump, who lost by 2 points and whose party lost Senate seats

But would you make the same point if Hillary had won while losing by 2% and was now pushing a more radical healthcare plan than Obamacare? The only thing that matters is who gets to 270. If the voters of PA, MI, WI etc don't like what Trump is doing then they can vote him out in 2020. No where is it written down that a party/candidate has to meet a certain criteria in winning an election in order to pursue their agenda. Besides, Trump's plans can easily be intellectually hammered without the need to resort to tedious lines about whether or not he has a mandate.
12  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Primus Inter Pares - February 2005 General Election on: March 17, 2017, 03:20:39 pm
I'm confused to why a hard-left member would support the following, entry into the Euro and adoption of the European Constitution. It makes no sense. They're most opposed to things, especially the Euro.
Because Ken Livingstone is a crazy person who should be nowhere near the halls of power let alone Prime Minister.

My vigorous opposition to him has little to do with his politics and everything to do with the fact that he's a goddamn nutjob, and his shambles of a government proves that.

Nah, he's more of a typical politician than a crazy person. The most controversial policy of his London mayoralty was the introduction of the congestion charge FFS.
This is the same guy who called Hitler a Zionist.

But that was probably not out of craziness...
Yeah. Just general antisemitism.

As I recall it was something along the lines of "The Nazi Party and Zionists did some kind of deal". I can't be sure, but that sounds more like a contrarian viewpoint (rather than genuine bigotry) that people under certain influences would express without foreseeing the reaction it might cause.
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Primus Inter Pares - February 2005 General Election on: March 17, 2017, 02:56:10 pm
I'm confused to why a hard-left member would support the following, entry into the Euro and adoption of the European Constitution. It makes no sense. They're most opposed to things, especially the Euro.
Because Ken Livingstone is a crazy person who should be nowhere near the halls of power let alone Prime Minister.

My vigorous opposition to him has little to do with his politics and everything to do with the fact that he's a goddamn nutjob, and his shambles of a government proves that.

Nah, he's more of a typical politician than a crazy person. The most controversial policy of his London mayoralty was the introduction of the congestion charge FFS.
This is the same guy who called Hitler a Zionist.

But that was probably not out of craziness...
14  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Primus Inter Pares - February 2005 General Election on: March 17, 2017, 10:14:55 am
I'm confused to why a hard-left member would support the following, entry into the Euro and adoption of the European Constitution. It makes no sense. They're most opposed to things, especially the Euro.
Because Ken Livingstone is a crazy person who should be nowhere near the halls of power let alone Prime Minister.

My vigorous opposition to him has little to do with his politics and everything to do with the fact that he's a goddamn nutjob, and his shambles of a government proves that.

Nah, he's more of a typical politician than a crazy person. The most controversial policy of his London mayoralty was the introduction of the congestion charge FFS.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do Hillary voters drink better beer than Trump voters? on: March 16, 2017, 07:34:22 pm
As a Brit, I think most American beer is awful, at least the household name stuff.
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Primus Inter Pares - 2002 Labour Leadership Election (Final Ballot) on: March 16, 2017, 04:06:48 pm
So it's Red Ken vs. Widdy. Can we now install Lembit Opik as Lib Dem leader, thus completing the trio of buffoonery? Tongue
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish independence referendum 2017? on: March 14, 2017, 03:05:24 pm
A Welsh independence referendum would make the 1979 devolution referendum look like Florida 2000.
18  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Primus Inter Pares - 2001 Conservative Leadership Election (Final Ballot) on: March 14, 2017, 02:38:54 pm
So it's Widdy then?
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International What-ifs / Re: How would you have voted: Scottish, Welsh, Northern Irish and London elections on: March 14, 2017, 10:18:11 am
Scottish Parliament:

1999 - Constituency - SNP, Region - Conservative
2003 - Constituency - SNP, Region - Conservative
2007 - Constituency - SNP, Region - Conservative
2011 - Constituency - SNP, Region - SNP

I didn't know afleitch had a sock. Tongue
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Gavin Newsom? on: March 14, 2017, 10:12:39 am
He arguably single-handedly lost Prop 8, though.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: So who do you vote for if you're moderate but not a socialist/communist? on: March 14, 2017, 10:10:38 am
This thread pretty much shows why we could greatly do with a "Boomer Tax".

I've always found it fascinating that people are happy to generalize on the basis of generation while not so on the basis of race, gender, sexuality and other innate things. Millennials are entitled f**kwits, eff them, Boomers are selfish racists, eff them etc.
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Primus Inter Pares - 2001 Conservative Leadership Election (Final Ballot) on: March 13, 2017, 04:56:37 pm
Kindly bumping this.
23  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Primus Inter Pares - 2002 Labour Leadership Election (1st Ballot) on: March 13, 2017, 04:55:24 pm
So if Blair wins then WAR would be about the first act of his government? On that basis he'd down as Labour's Eden or something.
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Will Generation Z be more conservative? on: March 13, 2017, 01:21:51 pm
18-24 year olds last year was Clinton's strongest age group.

I recall seeing data suggesting that 18-19 yos voted well to the right of those in their early 20s.
25  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Primus Inter Pares - 2002 Labour Leadership Election (1st Ballot) on: March 13, 2017, 10:44:57 am
1. Red Ken
2. Cook
3. Brown
4. Beckett
5. Blair

 
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