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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Favorite Vice Presidential Loser (2000-present) on: June 27, 2017, 09:56:06 am
How can anyone vote for Edwards?

They're horny gays, presumably.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ralph Nader: The Democrats are unable to defend the US on: June 27, 2017, 05:19:25 am
No, third parties like in 2000 and in 16 took away the Dems chances for victory, that's the fact.

Why were those elections so close anyway? And why were many likely Democratic voters so willing to cast their vote for a third party? Obviously, it was because the Democratic candidate was uninspiring.

You know, i would be ok with this if this election had been Rubio vs Clinton or Jeb vs Clinton. But this excuse doesn't fly when the GOP nominee is Donald ****ing Trump.

You can thank the Hiillary campaign and the DNC for elevating "pied piper" Donald Trump.

Are you capable of posting anything on this forum that isn't a single sentence bleating about Hillary Clinton?

If the uneducated masses of the Democratic Party electorate hadn't voted for her then your country wouldn't be in the sh**thole that it is. Jferns aren't the reason for this mess.
3  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion: 2017 and onwards, Mayhem on: June 26, 2017, 09:17:05 am
DUP makes deal with the Conservatives.
The UK is officially f[inks]ed

On the bright side, we now have a terrific excuse to sh**tpost for the next x number of months or years.
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you edit Wikipedia? on: June 26, 2017, 08:02:34 am
Was a regular editor circa 2008, not so much these days.
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Mike Pence versus Dick Cheney? on: June 26, 2017, 07:54:10 am
The one who's not on the cusp of becoming leader of the free world.
6  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Best president of the French Fifth Republic on: June 26, 2017, 07:53:07 am
Mitterand is the least smelly of these sh**ts.
7  General Politics / Individual Politics / Most and Least Charismatic Aussie PM since 1975 on: June 26, 2017, 07:32:14 am
I'd rank them:

Hawke - 9/10 - A rare third-wayer who is still fairly beloved. And it's easy to see why; just check out that sculling beer video on YouTube.

Keating - 8/10 - I mean... http://www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/special/scumbag.html

Rudd - 6/10 - Started off strong, became tired and bitter as time went on.

Abbott - 6/10 - Charismatic in that George W. Bush kind of way. A satirist's dream.

Gillard - 5/10 - Marks added for the misogyny speech, probably the greatest parliamentary performance in the West during this decade.

Fraser - 5/10 - Just didn't quite have it did he?

Turnbull - 5/10 - Has hilariously declined from being nice guy, FF to just another Liberal.

Howard - 3/10 - The least blokey of the blokes, looked too much like a crushed potato.
8  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Will the millennial generation bring world peace? on: June 26, 2017, 05:44:51 am
Millenials are more likely to cause a World War III than any previous generation.  They are incredibly naive and selfish. 

All generations are such. We have more reason to be so than most.
9  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is Emmanuel Macron a "centre-left" politician? on: June 24, 2017, 07:29:16 pm
A plurality of his voters describe themselves as either centrists or somewhat to the left of it; his most immediate political adversaries seem to be to his right rather than his left; and he and his movement clearly originate from within left forces in France. Saying that he's not center-left seems like a deliberate blindness, or at least an attempt to define words as different from the ways they are most commonly used.

Voted yes and am quite willing to defend this.

So you'd presumably be quite willing to argue that austerity is left-of-center. Good luck with that. And who the Hell cares what a plurality of his voters define themselves as - their idea of 'left' is simply 'not being Marine le Pen'.
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, 2017 - Election Day and Results Thread on: June 24, 2017, 04:42:50 am
Lots of "Tories ran worst campaign ever, yet Labour still lost!!!" type of comments still going around. The point being missed is that the reason why the Tory campaign is seen as the worst is due to the result. The 2015 Tory campaign received heavy criticism...until the results came in, at which point it became highly praised. 
11  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: A LGBTQ nation state? on: June 23, 2017, 07:35:38 am
Has anyone snarkily said "What about San Francisco?" yet?
12  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Which 2012 Republican Presidential candidate is Donald Trump most like? on: June 23, 2017, 07:34:14 am
Even though their bases were quite different (though perhaps less so than many believe), Romney.

- Both as rich as f**k.
- Both have a history of social liberalism.
- Both have taken tough stances on immigration and China.
- Both possibly wear wigs.
- Both Northeastern.
- Both were up against a weak field.
- Both established themselves as frontrunners early, with the race becoming defined as "them vs. the rest".
- Both were briefly threatened by a token African-American Republican.
- Both narrowly lost Iowa in a three-way split but won big in New Hampshire.
- Both of their final serious challengers were religious nutcases.
13  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: The Two "Far-Rights" (and why they oppose each other) on: June 23, 2017, 07:28:43 am
You know, outside of America, the term 'far-right' only really refers to out and out neo-Nazis and the term 'far-left' to out and out communists.

In America they seem to be applied to political figures that are very much part of the mainstream (even if they are on the very edges of it).
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: word association game on: June 23, 2017, 05:48:04 am
Republican Party Primaries
15  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion: 2017 and onwards, Mayhem on: June 23, 2017, 05:06:48 am
in preferred prime minister polling you ought to clarify, which while good for Labour, isn't exactly something particularly important.  It shows how far May has fallen in but a few months though

Though historically the incumbent PM has tended to have an in-built advantage on the question. The most famous example of this was when Callaghan was shown as leading Thatcher by 50-31 on the eve of the 1979 election.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Sen. Tom Cotton's Intern Calls Paul Ryan a Cuck in Audio Recording on: June 22, 2017, 04:43:07 pm
A actual cuckish thing to do would be to change your views to please nasty alt right types.
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2018 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: NY-Marist: Cuomo crushes Trump Jr., leads other Republicans on: June 22, 2017, 04:37:28 pm
Since when does a 35 point-lead represent a crushing while at the same time a 36-point lead doesn't?
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Next UK General Election thread on: June 22, 2017, 04:21:57 pm
Who Would Make The Better Prime Minister? (YouGov):

Corbyn - 35% (+3)
May - 34% (-9)

Changes compared to June 7th (i.e. the eve of the election).
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK Liberal Democrats leadership election, 2017 on: June 22, 2017, 01:08:41 pm
Tbh I'm kind of amazed that a significant portion of former LibDem voters supported Leave.

Pre-coalition, they were the main non-Labour/Tory party and were seen as 'clean' due to not having had experience in government since the War. A lot of their old vote was in no way intended as an endorsement for liberalism.
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Most and Least Charismatic British PM since 1979 on: June 22, 2017, 06:47:00 am
Blair/Major

May might be even worse, but I don't want to overreact based on one election campaign. Two months ago people talked about what a great genius politician she was.

She already had the charisma of a toasted worm prior to the campaign. Winning elections doesn't = charisma. John Howard managed to win four after all.
Well, perhaps. But who's the competition? John Major.

His 'soapbox touring' has been cited as a reason why the Tories held on in 1992. Plus he was at least personable in public.
21  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Most and Least Charismatic British PM since 1979 on: June 22, 2017, 06:36:04 am
Blair/Major

May might be even worse, but I don't want to overreact based on one election campaign. Two months ago people talked about what a great genius politician she was.

She already had the charisma of a toasted worm prior to the campaign. Winning elections doesn't = charisma. John Howard managed to win four after all.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Today two years ago... on: June 21, 2017, 09:13:56 pm
It became pretty clear to me early on that he was the Romney (albeit with differing views) of the 2016 race, i.e. that the race would be defined as him vs. everyone else.
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK Liberal Democrats leadership election, 2017 on: June 21, 2017, 03:24:38 pm
I get the feeling if Charles Kennedy was still alive, he would be the front runner in this race easily, especially if he won his old seat back. Do you that he could/would win?

That would depend on his health. He didn't look particularly good in his later years. Check out his final appearance on the BBC's Question Time (just a couple of months or so before his death): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9w0UjwX9vY

Comparable to Jack Layton's final press conference.
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Did Ossoff even stand a chance? on: June 21, 2017, 07:41:12 am
Being anti-Trump and nothing else isn't an election winner.
25  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Australia General Discussion 2.0 on: June 21, 2017, 06:57:18 am
Turnbull's premiership is a lesson for those on the left who think a President John Kasich or a Prime Minister Ruth Davidson wouldn't be so bad.
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