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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Sporcle US Senate Quiz on: September 28, 2016, 12:47:23 pm
85/100. Would have been 95-100 three or four years ago. Forget Cantwell somehow.
2  General Politics / International General Discussion / Shimon Peres dead at 93 on: September 27, 2016, 09:18:49 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37492153
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: LA-Sen JMC Analyisis (Fleming Internal): Boustany and Campbell tied, Fleming 3rd on: September 27, 2016, 04:47:05 pm
Jungle primaries are a bad idea: Part 3454455328112
4  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The Pigfvcker Memorial Suppository for UK News: A Departure from EUtopia on: September 27, 2016, 03:37:06 pm
And 2016 continues: http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37483344
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Post-Debate Enthusiasm on: September 27, 2016, 05:01:47 am
I am now happy to cast my vote for her as she has shown mastery of the subject matter, demonstrated her professional demeanour and exceptionally calm temperament, and did not simply cling to talking points or lower herself to hurling insults.

Well all of that can also be applied to various dictators. Surely the best reason to vote for her is that she is not Trump, not that she can memorize a few cheap lines in a chilled manner.

As for insults, there's nothing wrong with them...as long as they are witty (see Churchill, Paul Keating etc). Trump's are not.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Who is Bernie Sanders closer to ideologically? on: September 27, 2016, 04:23:25 am

Ugh, don't compare one of the most significant people in human history to some loudmouth billionaire who merely dreams of being one of the most significant people in human history.

I'd actually say Stein. Bernie doesn't hold the same crazy views on certain issues, but said issues don't in general determine ideology.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Grade Lester Holt's performance as moderator. on: September 27, 2016, 04:14:26 am
There was a moderator?

This was the first debate since about 1976 to have applause, btw.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who won the first debate? on: September 27, 2016, 04:09:01 am
The question isn't who won the first debate, the question is how badly did Hillary Clinton eviscerate Donald Trump and when will he drop out?

He’ll drop out November 8.

As will everyone else of course. Smiley

Trump had the edge, from what I saw, for the first half an hour, then Hillary overwhelmingly won the rest.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: MN/PA/NC-Gravis/Breitbart: MN Tied, PA HRC +3 and NC HRC +1 on: September 26, 2016, 02:26:29 pm
This cycle has produced more...questionable...polls than all previous cycles put together.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hofstra University POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread** on: September 26, 2016, 12:35:10 pm
This event seems like a good excuse to get pissed, or something approaching it.
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: NC-High Point University: Cooper +9 on: September 26, 2016, 09:11:31 am
And (again) this is a uni poll...but it's *very* bad from the incumbent's POV for their challenger to be at 50%.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: NC-High Point University: Clinton +1 on: September 26, 2016, 09:10:13 am
Uni poll......but at least the numbers are in line with those from the respectable pollsters.
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: New York City mayoral election, 1977 on: September 26, 2016, 07:35:37 am
"Vote for Cuomo not the homo"...............
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: Quinnipiac Clinton+1 (4 way and 2 way) on: September 26, 2016, 07:21:23 am
Not much of a gender gap in this - Hillary up 5 with women, Trump up 4 with men.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: CNN/ORC: CO: Trump +1 PA: Clinton +1 on: September 26, 2016, 06:05:47 am
13% seems a bit high for Johnson, does it not?

Yeah, although I can see CO being one of his better states.

It's a hash-loving place so obvs.

If Hillary drops below 45.15% in PA it would be the worst presidential result (in % terms) for a Dem since Carter in 1980. Even Mondale got just under 46%.

16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How is Donald Trump even qualified to be president? on: September 25, 2016, 08:57:35 pm
He is over 35 and an natural-born American and been a resident for 14+ years.  The only qualifications you need.

Is that good enough for you?

I would hope and assume not, but the point is that those are the only official and objective qualifications. Beyond that it's up to the employer to decide whether a potential employee is qualified or not. If NBC thinks that an alcoholic cocaine-addicted pedophile with several murder convictions is qualified to read the nightly news then that is what matters, regardless of the inevitably swift consequences. If the US electorate thinks that a loudmouth race baiting misogynist is qualified to be president then that is what matters, regardless of the inevitably swift consequences.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How is Donald Trump even qualified to be president? on: September 25, 2016, 08:57:10 pm
He is over 35 and an natural-born American and been a resident for 14+ years.  The only qualifications you need.

Is that good enough for you?

I would hope and assume not, but the point is that those are the only official and objective qualifications. Beyond that it's up to the employer to decide whether a potential employee is qualified or not. If NBC thinks that an alcoholic cocaine-addicted pedophile with several murder convictions is qualified to read the nightly news then that is what matters, regardless of the inevitably swift consequences. If the US electorate thinks that a loudmouth race baiting misogynist is qualified to be president then that is what matters, regardless of the inevitably swift consequences.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: Breitbart/Gravis: Trump +4 in CO, +1 in OH on: September 25, 2016, 07:22:37 pm
How on earth is CO to the right of Ohio

Yeah, Trump +4 in OH and Trump +1 in CO would be a bit more plausible.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party (UK) Leadership Election, 2016 on: September 25, 2016, 07:19:07 pm
What I don't think the Corbynistas fully realise is even if the Tories do screw up Brexit Labour has an Achilles heel that it is almost impossible to overcome, that is Corbyn's past. Corbyn, McDonnell and the people around them have some very unpleasant skeletons in their closet
The last Prime Minister was once a prick in a tuxedo with his dick inside a dead pig's mouth. I think skeletons in the closet can come and go...

Weren't Alec Douglas-Home and Rab Butler both supporters of appeasement? I suppose the argument would be that Labour and the media didn't make much of that whereas the Tories and the media would of Corbyn's past...but look at the recent Republican race (in which tens of millions of people voted rather than just half a million party members). Trump claiming to be a true conservative despite various donations to liberal politicians, past statements etc. His rivals and the media constantly brought those facts up, but to no avail. If Corbyn does lead the party to a big defeat (which is possible) then I would suggest that his past would not be a big factor.
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party (UK) Leadership Election, 2016 on: September 25, 2016, 07:15:15 pm
*If* those who say that Corbyn's low energy campaign lost Remain the referendum are right and *if* he secretly wanted/voted for Brexit, then he's arguably the most successful and impactful Labour leader ever, with the possible exception of Attlee.
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party (UK) Leadership Election, 2016 on: September 25, 2016, 09:13:15 am
Er, she isn't known as Chairman May for nothing...
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Social democratic parties today on: September 25, 2016, 05:23:10 am
Let's take a look...

UK Labour - Divided as eff. Possibly heading for a general election result (be it under Corbyn or someone else) that is going to make 1931 look like...1931 from the Tories' POV...if you listen to the media anyhow. In a better state than Scottish Labour though!!!

Irish Labour - Misnamed party who have (even by their standards) comedic poll ratings. Currently in a close battle for fourth place with Trotsys.

SPD of Germany - Laughably uninspiring party, stuck at around 20% in the polls. No sign of forming a government led by itself this millennium.

French PS - Have the presidency and the president is about to come (at the very very best) a poor third to a crook and a fascist.

PASOK of Greece - Have been ousted by the hard left as the main alternative to the right. Only people who vote for them still are only doing it out of habit and/or ignorance of recent events.

New Zealand Labour - It's been quite literally a decade since a single opinion poll showed them in the lead. Have gone through various nonentity leaders. Lucky that FPTP is no more.

Canadian NDP - Probably in a better state than most on this list due to the realistic possibility (this IS Canada after all) that they could win the next federal election with 68% of the vote and all but two seats. Still, pretty sucky that, after decades of effort, their time in OO was so brief.


And there's various other examples of course, but I cannot be bothered.

23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party (UK) Leadership Election, 2016 on: September 25, 2016, 04:50:03 am
Corbyn 61.8%
Smith 38.2%

313,209 to 193,229

Actually, given a lot of the rumours, that's a *narrower* margin  than I was led to expect...

I suspect most of those rumours were coming from non-Corbynites, in an attempt to lower expectations for their side.
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party (UK) Leadership Election, 2016 on: September 24, 2016, 07:16:36 am
It's a bit of a surprise that Smith didn't wait for the provisional ballots to be counted.
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party (UK) Leadership Election, 2016 on: September 24, 2016, 06:36:30 am
59% of members, 60% of affiliates and 70% of registered supporters for Corbyn, so the biggest 'swing' against him came in the third category.
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